[Congressional Record Volume 151, Number 111 (Thursday, September 8, 2005)]
[House]
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PROVIDING FOR CONSIDERATION OF MOTIONS TO SUSPEND THE RULES
Mr. LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART of Florida. Mr. Speaker, by direction of the
Committee on Rules, I call up House Resolution 426 and ask for its
immediate consideration.
The Clerk read the resolution, as follows:
H. Res. 426
Resolved, That it shall be in order at any time on the
legislative day of Thursday, September 8, 2005, for the
Speaker to entertain motions that the House suspend the
rules. The Speaker or his designee shall consult with the
Minority Leader or her designee on the designation of any
matter for consideration pursuant to this resolution.
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. LaTourette). The gentleman from Florida
(Mr. Lincoln Diaz-Balart) is recognized for 1 hour.
Mr. LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART of Florida. Mr. Speaker, for the purpose of
debate only, I yield the customary 30 minutes to the gentlewoman from
New York (Ms. Slaughter), pending which I yield myself such time as I
may consume. During consideration of this resolution, all time yielded
is for the purpose of debate only.
(Mr. LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART of Florida asked and was given permission to
revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART of Florida. Mr. Speaker, House Resolution 426
provides that suspensions will be in order at any time on the
legislative day of Thursday, September 8, 2005. This resolution will
allow the House to consider and debate legislation to address the needs
of the hurricane-ravaged areas of the Gulf Coast in our country, such
as increased borrowing authority for the National Flood Insurance
program, the Student Grant Hurricane and Disaster Relief Act, the
Temporary Assistance for Needy Families Emergency Response and Recovery
Act, and a supplemental emergency appropriations bill.
Mr. Speaker, my community in South Florida was very fortunate that we
did not have to bear the full brunt of this latest hurricane, Hurricane
Katrina. Over a million of us in South Florida lost electricity. Many
homes and businesses were flooded and some structural damage was caused
to homes and businesses, but we did not bear the full brunt, the full
fury of this latest hurricane, Katrina.
We in South Florida were very fortunate as well to receive generous
aid from fellow Americans in the wake of Hurricane Andrew in 1992. As a
Hurricane Andrew survivor, I have an idea of the trials and
tribulations that face hurricane survivors. I am also very much aware
that assistance from the Federal Government is essential for a
comprehensive and robust recovery effort.
With that said, I wish to make clear to our friends in the Gulf Coast
that we will continue to mobilize nationwide in response to this
tragedy, we will remain steadfast in our commitment to the recovery
effort, and we will not walk away from our obligations to our fellow
Americans. Just as we did after Hurricane Andrew, Mr. Speaker, together
it is that we will rebuild and together it is that we will recover.
In response to this terrible disaster, the majority leadership of
this House has set out a plan to continue helping the victims of this
terrible catastrophe. Last week, the House of Representatives passed
emergency funding totaling $10.5 billion to provide urgently needed
relief to the victims of Hurricane Katrina. Congress needs to do more
for the victims of this catastrophe, and we will. We will consider, I
am certain, other supplemental bills, and they will provide additional
billions for recovery and rebuilding efforts in the Gulf Coast.
The American people have demonstrated their resiliency before and
will do so again. We will continue to work to comfort those who suffer.
Rescue workers are at this moment lined up across this great Nation to
support the recovery effort that is under way, and volunteers from
every corner of America are ready to support those efforts. Our prayers
continue to go out to the victims, to their families and to all the
valiant rescue workers. The spirit of community, of generosity and good
will across the country gives me confidence that Louisiana, Mississippi
and Alabama will recover from this tragedy, and they will be better
than ever before.
House Resolution 426, Mr. Speaker, is a necessary rule for our
efforts to assist the victims of Hurricane Katrina. I would like to say
a special word of thanks to the Speaker, to the majority leader, to the
chairman of the Appropriations Committee and to the minority leadership
for their swift action on this issue as was begun to be demonstrated
last week. I urge my colleagues, Mr. Speaker, to support both the rule
and support the emergency legislation that is authorized under this
rule.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from Florida for
yielding me the customary 30 minutes, and I yield myself such time as I
may consume.
(Ms. SLAUGHTER asked and was given permission to revise and extend
her remarks.)
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, the vitally important bill before us
today will help to begin the process of rebuilding one of our Nation's
greatest regions and the lives of the people within it. It comes to us
in the wake of what was last week nothing short of a catastrophic
failure of responsible and competent governance. And not surprisingly,
the way in which we are going about passing this bill is itself a
tremendous failure, the most recent in a seemingly endless line.
It is a failure, Mr. Speaker, because almost no time has been
provided for discussion of this bill and because no amendments have
been permitted to be introduced. This body is about to spend more than
$50 billion and all the minority wants is to spend it wisely. All we
want is to give the Members a chance to know where the appropriations
are going and to actually give Representatives from the affected States
a chance to make suggestions to the legislation before it becomes law.
We want to ensure that that this body will address as quickly as
possible the tremendous errors which have been made by our Federal
Government in its response to Hurricane Katrina.
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Last night in the Rules Committee we implored the majority to allow
even a mere 2 hours of debate and to allow Members to offer amendments
which would make this a better, more effective bill. Their response?
Sorry, America, we don't have time for that. We don't have time? After
5 weeks of recess in the Chamber, 40 minutes is all the time the United
States Congress has to give? It took our government 5 days to even
respond to the crisis, and we cannot give more than 40 minutes here
today to craft a bill that will provide relief and help rebuild an
entire region of our country? We tried to break through, but they
simply would not hear us.
They would not hear us because they do not want to be challenged or
blamed or to deal with alternative solutions. It simply wants us to
accept its leadership, once again quietly and without comment. But what
the American people want is reform. They want change. They want us to
work hard here in the House and try to fix this mess. And so we will
not keep quiet because our Nation is demanding that we speak out.
This government failed the people of Louisiana and Mississippi and
Alabama. This government, one so willing to tell other nations and
peoples how they should live their lives and organize their states, has
revealed itself to be unable to save the lives of its own citizens and
to protect its own States when they are in need. Indeed, that neglect
has cost lives. It was unable to meet its most basic responsibility and
the ultimate reason for its very existence, the defense of life within
its own borders.
It is obvious that the current administration and departments in its
care did not have a plan sufficient to handle the kind of crisis they
were confronted with. Disturbingly, however, they were armed with a
plan to shift blame away from themselves. And so a few days ago,
Homeland Security Director Michael Chertoff tried to blame local
government officials for what had happened. Such an argument is
embarrassing and shameful because this Federal Government has not been
adequately supporting those State and local officials in the years that
led up to last week, and it did not give them what they needed after
the hurricane struck. Instead, it neglected them and then kicked them
when they were down.
This kind of situation is exactly why FEMA exists. That is why it is
called Federal emergency management. That is exactly why it was part of
the Homeland Security Department. The $90 billion that has been spent
on the Homeland Security agency has left us more vulnerable than ever.
If there is an American that feels safer after the expenditure of that
$90 billion, I would like to meet them. Do they feel safer? Absolutely
not.
There was a tremendous outpouring of help coming from locations
around America and the world during the first days of this crisis, but
FEMA and Homeland Security were unable to use it constructively. One
thousand firefighters sent from Utah and nearby areas were asked to do
community relations work, handing out leaflets, instead of putting out
blazes and rescuing children. Aid and rescue technology offered by more
than 90 countries has often been unable to penetrate FEMA's bureaucracy
and has yet to be used. Wal-Mart sent three trailer trucks of water to
New Orleans early last week but were turned back by FEMA officials.
They said they did not need it. To people who had no water.
FEMA would not let a nearby Coast Guard ship distribute 1,000 gallons
of fuel to people on land. And while that particular ship was able to
take on patients and treat them and give them medical care, they were
awaiting the orders that never came. FEMA cut the emergency
communication lines that authorities in Jefferson Parish were using,
for who knows what reason. The president of Jefferson Parish had the
sheriff's department replace those lines and put them under armed
guards to protect them from? FEMA.
Mr. Speaker, this is just the tip of the iceberg. The tales of
failure go on and on and on. Failure before Katrina, failure during
Katrina and failure after Katrina.
Ours is a government which has spent much of the last 4 years focused
on national security. Ours is government which has spent tens of
billions of dollars theoretically preparing our country for impending
disasters. Ours is a government which has justified its hold on power
by warning us that only this administration's leaders could keep
America safe. But the administration was not up to the task. Nor was
FEMA. Nor was the Department of Homeland Security. Our government
failed. Until every aspect of our emergency response system is analyzed
and reevaluated, this government will have a hard time finding its
credibility in the debris.
I suggest that we should start trying to regain that credibility
right here, today. This administration and this Congress and the
agencies of this Federal bureaucracy concerned with emergencies like
Katrina have a great debt to pay back to the American people. This
Congress owes them more than a mere 40 minutes of consideration of the
Nation's response to what is quickly becoming the worst national
disaster in American history. We owe them more than to silence the
voice of the American people on this floor. We owe America more than to
intentionally prevent this body from crafting the very best hurricane
recovery legislation that it can by refusing to allow any amendments to
even be considered and by shutting out almost half of this House from
any consideration of this bill.
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And because this leadership does not want to lose a vote or have
their ideas challenged or suffer the indignity of disagreement in the
people's House, we will not be able to do a thorough discussion today.
It is the very mentality, the arrogance of this government, its
unwillingness to allow accountability to be brought into the process
which they have reduced to a game. They call it the blame game. It is
not a game, Mr. Speaker; it is a tragedy. We cannot afford to go on
like this, not even for one more day.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART of Florida. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such
time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, I am very proud to be bringing forth to the floor today
a rule that will permit the consideration of various pieces of
legislation to continue to provide very needed assistance to those who
are suffering as we speak.
As I mentioned before in my prior remarks, Mr. Speaker, there are
four pieces of legislation that this rule that we will be voting on
this morning authorizes consideration of: the national flood insurance
program, assistance for that program; the Student Grant Hurricane and
Disaster Relief Act, assistance for that program; the Temporary
Assistance For Needy Families Emergency Response and Recovery Act,
assistance for that program; and an emergency supplemental. Those four
pieces of legislation, the rule that we are debating on at this time,
are authorized to be debated by this House.
I wish to commend the two Senators from the State of Louisiana who, I
was just able to read some of their joint statements, I think are
demonstrating great responsibility in a spirit of bipartisanship. For
example, the two Senators from Louisiana have stated, they say there
will be ample time, and I agree with them, for Congress to thoroughly
investigate the event.
They say, as well, and I also agree with them, that the focus now
needs to be on food, on housing, on employment, on education and on
health care, not on investigations. There will be plenty of time for
this Congress, in its constitutional duty of oversight, to investigate.
But I agree, as I say, with the Senators from Louisiana.
The focus now, and our focus in bringing forth authorizing
consideration of the four pieces of legislation this morning, is on
food, housing, employment, education and health care, assistance to
those and for those who are suffering.
I see the Senators from Louisiana also made another point. In a joint
bipartisan statement they say, please do not make the citizens of
Louisiana victims once again by allowing our immediate needs to be
delayed by partisanship.
Now, we do not want to delay assistance by partisanship or any other
reason, and that is why we are bringing forth this rule. We have
brought forth this rule to authorize consideration of four measures to
take assistance, to
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continue to make available assistance to those who are suffering at
this time, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 6 minutes to the gentleman from
Florida (Mr. Hastings), a member of the Rules Committee.
(Mr. HASTINGS of Florida asked and was given permission to revise and
extend his remarks.)
Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. Mr. Speaker, I thank the ranking Democrat of
the Rules Committee for the time.
Mr. Speaker, I rise today in support of the four bills which the
House will consider today under suspension of the rules should this
rule pass.
However, I also rise with great trepidation about the way in which
the majority continues to run this body without regard for general
order and procedure. The gentleman from Florida (Mr. Lincoln Diaz-
Balart) said that he is proud to be bringing this rule under the
suspension provisions. I would ask the gentleman whether or not in his
conference all of the T's were crossed and the I's were dotted to bring
a matter out, since in your conference and in our caucus we have a
provision that as a general measure we will not bring a matter under
suspension for more than $100 million.
Under suspension of the rules, Members are afforded limited time for
debate with zero opportunity to amend the legislation. When this rule
passes, that is exactly what we will get. That is just wrong,
regardless of the urgency of the legislation.
Mr. Speaker, this administration that is in charge of this Nation's
negligence in responding to Hurricane Katrina strongly resembles the
incompetence that Florida saw in the Federal emergency management
organization last year. The Bush administration's refusal to accept
responsibility for its inaction mirrors the arrogance that we continue
to deal with today in Florida as we recover from last year's disastrous
hurricane season.
Certainly our first priority has to be the rescue of those who are
still alive and to provide them with housing, medical attention, food
and water. However, as the Gulf Coast turns to the recovery and
rebuilding process, the billions that Congress will spend will not be
enough to fix the problems that exist within FEMA.
Based on my own personal experience dealing with Under Secretary
Brown directly over the last year, I warn the Members of this body that
the problems you see today are just the tip of the iceberg, as the
gentlewoman from New York (Ms. Slaughter) just said. And it has nothing
to do with the magnitude of this awesome disaster.
My colleague says that he is proud. I wonder if my colleague from
Florida is proud of the fact that $1.5 billion from last year's
hurricanes are still outstanding. I wonder if my colleague is proud of
the fact that his county, Dade, and my county, Broward, were denied
Federal assistance from FEMA this year with this same Hurricane
Katrina. I wonder if my colleague is proud of that fact that there are
blue roofs in Florida where people's roofs are still not covered, and
it does not even rise to the magnitude of what is going on in the Gulf
Coast; but last year's FEMA problems are not corrected.
Inconsistency in FEMA regulations, constant reinterpretations of the
Stafford Act, Federal officials treating local emergency operation
centers like revolving doors, lack of coordination and FEMA's fluid and
unclear chain of command are just a few of the many significant and
real problems that Floridians dealt with last year and are still
dealing with today.
I have literally begged the committee of jurisdiction in this body to
hold hearings on these shortcomings. I even introduced bipartisan
legislation in March with the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Shaw) to
address a slew of institutional problems within FEMA that we
experienced firsthand last year. Yet, every time we take our concerns
to the committees, we are told it is not big enough as a problem to
consider on its own.
Well, Mr. Speaker, is the problem big enough now? How many people
must die in a disaster before something becomes a big enough problem in
this Congress?
The new mantra that I hear from my colleagues in the majority is that
there will be time to investigate. It is almost as if we cannot chew
gum and walk at the same time. We must do what we are doing for the
Gulf Coast, but we also must do what we have to as a responsibility in
Congress in the nature of oversight.
Later today I will introduce legislation establishing an independent
commission to examine the failures of the Federal Government in
responding to Katrina, as well as evaluate our current ability to
respond to any type of large-scale disaster, natural or man-made.
The President and congressional Republicans argue that we should not
play the blame game because they may be in part to blame. Congress
placing FEMA in the Department of Homeland Security and allowing the
agency to operate completely unchecked helped create the disaster that
we are in today. We created the problem, and now we need to fix it.
I question, however, whether there are enough in this body who have
the courage to do what is right and not only criticize the
administration, not only criticize local and State officials, criticize
this Congress as well for our incompetence and inaction. But actually
doing something is what is required. Accountability is the only way to
restore integrity in a broken system, and an independent commission is
the first step in repairing our disaster response system which we all
now know is woefully inadequate.
Mr. LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART of Florida. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such
time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, I am proud of the fact that the rule that we have
brought forth this morning, and I reiterate that I am so, authorizes
consideration by this House today of four legislative measures, four,
to continue to increase assistance to those who are suffering pursuant
to the destruction caused by that extraordinary tragedy in the Gulf
Coast.
Four pieces of legislation are being brought forth today, are being
authorized to be brought forth today with the rule that we are
considering this morning. Yes, I am very proud of that, Mr. Speaker.
Now, I have questions as well. I have questions as well with regard
to a number of Federal agencies, State agencies, local agencies as well
in the Gulf Coast.
My wife was reminding me last night that on the Friday before this
horrible storm hit the Gulf Coast, she saw the director of the National
Hurricane Center on national television with the Governor of Florida,
by the way. We had the Governor of Florida and our local officials
speaking to us continuously before and at the time and after the
hurricane passed through us in south Florida before it went into the
Gulf and then gathered all that strength that bore down with such
horrible power on the Gulf Coast. And she was reminding me that the
director of the National Hurricane Center, this is Friday before the
hurricane hit late Sunday night, early Monday morning, the Gulf Coast,
said it is headed to the Gulf. It is going to pick up strength and it
could hit, it is going to land anywhere from the Florida Panhandle to
New Orleans.
Now, as I was discussing with my wife last night, when we had the
four hurricanes in Florida last year, and this one in south Florida
this year, immediately our local officials, the mayor, the county
commissioners, the mayors and the Governor, the State officials, they
were speaking to the populace and instructing people to leave,
evacuating people. Five times we have done so in 1 year.
So, yes, I have questions as to why that was not done in Louisiana,
why it was not ordered by the mayors and by the county commissioners
and by the Governors. I have questions. Of course I have questions, Mr.
Speaker. We all have questions, and those questions need to be
addressed. And they will be addressed as we proceed with our oversight
function, which is legally required.
But today what we need to do is to get help to the people who need
the help, and that is what we are doing, Mr. Speaker. That is why we
have brought forth the legislation to authorize consideration of four
measures to take assistance to those in need. That is what we are
debating this morning.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
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Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 6 minutes to the gentleman from
Wisconsin (Mr. Obey), the ranking member on the Appropriations
Committee.
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Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, last week I returned to Washington along with
about 20 other Members of the House in order to assure passage of the
initial down payment of $10 billion for the victims of Hurricane
Katrina.
Today we will be voting to provide $52 billion more in aid. I am all
for it. We will all vote for it. Any suggestion in any way that the
delivery of that money would be delayed is pure nonsense. That money
will be voted today.
But the problem we have is that the bill is being brought to the
floor in a manner which prevents Congress from exercising any
independent judgment whatsoever about how best to use taxpayers' money.
And the problem is that the agency that we are appropriating most of
the money to has demonstrated with great clarity that it is
spectacularly dysfunctional; and there are a number of reasons for
that.
The problem we have with FEMA is that what was an efficient,
professional and qualified agency under James Witt during the Clinton
administration has now once again become a dumping ground for political
cronies.
Three years ago this Congress in the wake of 9/11 merged FEMA into a
huge, new, gargantuan agency, the Department of Homeland Security.
Since that time the White House, the Congress, and the Department of
Homeland Security all together have squeezed the resources available
for FEMA. They have hollowed out that agency and they have cut more
than 500 people out of that agency.
To top it off, the President appointed to run that agency a gentleman
who before he joined FEMA had no previous disaster experience
whatsoever, and whose only apparent connection to the disaster world
was that he was the college roommate of the former director of FEMA. We
have seen the disastrous results of that appointment.
I want to provide the $50 billion that the legislation is going to
provide today, and I will vote for it and so will ever other sane
Member of this House, I assume. But I deeply regret the fact that the
manner in which this legislation is being brought to the floor today
will prevent me or any other Member from taking an action which I think
is essential to restore the professionalism of FEMA and to depoliticize
that agency.
I wanted to offer an amendment to the bill which would have allowed
the money to flow immediately, but which would have done five
additional things. It would have restored FEMA status as an independent
agency with no intervening bureaucracy between the White House and that
agency, it would have reestablished the position of the FEMA director
to one who reports directly to the President, it would have required
the FEMA director to have extensive experience in emergency or
disaster-related management, it would have made that directorship
confirmable for a specific 5-year term to reduce the likelihood of the
position being used as political patronage of any President by any
party, and it would have established a deputy director with primary
responsibility to assure that a direct connection is retained with the
Department of Homeland Security so that in the process of dealing with
domestic disasters, we do not neglect our responsibilities to also
protect the country against terrorism.
Our friends on the majority side of the aisle declined to allow us to
have that vote.
I do not object to the majority saying ``We do not believe that that
is the right solution.'' or ``We do not believe that this is the right
time to discuss this.'' That is a legitimate position. But what we are
asking for is to at least have the ability to debate that issue, to
discuss that issue, because every day that we delay professionalizing
FEMA and depoliticizing it is another day that taxpayers' money is
being spent by an agency which has been demonstrated under these
circumstances to be incompetent.
The President has a responsibility, each and every Member of this
Congress has a personal responsibility to see to it that if we are
going to provide $50 billion today and another $50 billion down the
road, as we most surely will, we have a responsibility to know that
that money is going to be spent in the most efficient, the most
effective way to save lives, to rebuild communities. We cannot have
that confidence under the existing management of this agency. And so I
think we have an obligation to move as quickly as possible to fix the
problem.
The amendment I would have offered would have given us 120 days to
make those changes. I regret deeply the fact that we will not be able
to at least discuss that matter on the floor today.
Mr. LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART of Florida. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such
time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, again with regard to what we have brought forth this
morning, a rule for consideration of four pieces of legislation to
provide assistance and to increase the aid that is going to those who
are in desperate need in the Gulf Coast area now due to the great
catastrophe that has just been suffered, that is what we are doing. We
are authorizing consideration of four pieces of legislation to increase
assistance to those in need.
Now, last night in the Committee on Rules, Mr. Speaker, our friends
on the other side of the aisle, the minority party, brought forth one
amendment to the rule that we are considering this morning and that
amendment called for what is known as an open rule. In other words,
that any Member of this House could bring forth any and all amendments
that they may wish to do so, that they may have wished to do so with
regard to any of the four pieces of legislation.
Now, I generally, Mr. Speaker, am for open rules. I think that is an
appropriate goal and I think that we should, as much as possible,
permit the free flow of debate on as many ideas as Members have. But if
there has ever been a time when we could not, when we should not have
an open rule which would permit, even if each of us only had one idea,
and I think the Obey amendment is a very interesting one, he just
explained it a few minutes ago, even if each of us had one idea in the
form of an amendment like the one that was just explained by the
gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Obey), we would have 435 amendments, Mr.
Speaker, to debate.
This is not the time to have 435 or 100 or 50 amendments. This is the
time to bring forth legislation, a rule in this case to authorize
consideration of four pieces of legislation to assist those in need.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the distinguished gentlewoman from
Illinois (Mrs. Biggert).
Mrs. BIGGERT. Mr. Speaker, I support the rule and the underlying
bills. I would encourage FEMA to work with the Department of Education
to utilize the Education for Homeless Children and Youth Program to
meet the educational needs of all students displaced by this storm.
As we consider the rule and all of these bills, I think we have to
remember the children. As part of the No Child Left Behind Act, the
Education for Homeless Children and Youth Program requires that school
districts immediately enroll homeless children. It provides children
with much-needed stability and allows for the delivery of other
critical services, including such things as health care and counseling.
The bill also addresses school transportation issues, assures that
eligible children participate in Federal, State and local food
programs, and allows for frequent moving as evacuated families find
more permanent housing.
When we included this provision in No Child Left Behind we, frankly,
never contemplated that it could be so useful and effective at this
time of national crisis. We have happily discovered over recent days
that this measure has provided a ready-made system of communication and
contacts and information networks that could serve us well in this time
of need.
The program also contains a funding structure that efficiently
distributes Federal dollars to the local level. Utilizing the Education
for Homeless Children and Youth Program would save time, money and
allow more Federal dollars to flow more quickly to the areas in need.
This program provides a tried and tested framework for States and
school districts to meet the immediate educational and social service
needs of homeless children displaced by Hurricane Katrina.
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Encouraging FEMA and the Department of Education to utilize this
program to coordinate relief efforts is a commonsense step that can
quickly and dramatically improve assistance to displaced children.
I would urge support for the rule and the underlying bill.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
Mississippi (Mr. Thompson), the ranking member of the Committee on
Homeland Security and a victim himself.
Mr. THOMPSON of Mississippi. Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to
this rule. Twenty minutes per side is not enough to argue a catastrophe
of this size. The rule does not allow any amendments from our side. A
number of Democratic districts have been affected, those of the
gentleman from Mississippi (Mr. Taylor), the gentleman from Alabama
(Mr. Davis), and the gentleman from Louisiana (Mr. Jefferson), as well
as myself. We do not have an opportunity for input into what relief
opportunities we can give in our districts.
This is not right. If this is a democracy, we ought to have an
opportunity to participate in providing for the relief of our
particular districts.
The Republican side has taken a position that Democratic input is not
needed. This is not the way to go. This is a democracy. We need a rule
that allows for the maximum input from both sides.
I am sorry to say that even in this time of devastation, our
Republican colleagues have decided that America should not pull
together and work for the common good. Unfortunately, the people of
Mississippi, Alabama and Louisiana are the ones who will suffer because
of this lack of total input from Members of Congress.
Mr. LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART of Florida. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such
time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, I think it is important that we realize that in the same
fashion in which last week's supplemental legislation was considered
under a unanimous consent request, it is the hope and wish of the
majority leadership that the next supplemental bill also be considered
in that way under unanimous consent.
With regard to additional time for debate or other matters, that
could be obviously worked into a unanimous consent agreement like the
one that brought forth and permitted debate and permitted passage of
the first supplemental.
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So what we are voting on today, the rule does not preclude that. On
the contrary, as I say, it is the wish of the majority leadership to
continue to engage in dialogue and hopefully have a unanimous consent
agreement. I wanted to make that clear because sometimes I think the
facts are important to be made clear.
Mr. Speaker, we reserve the balance of our time.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to yield 2 minutes to the
gentleman from Oregon (Mr. Blumenauer).
Mr. BLUMENAUER. Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the gentlewoman's courtesy
in permitting me to speak on this bill.
Mr. Speaker, I have come to the floor of this House repeatedly over
recent years using this specific example of New Orleans as a call to
arms to change how we do business. I cannot tell my colleagues how
disappointed I am that we are having before us today a proposal that
does not provide an opportunity for this Chamber to adequately discuss
what is at stake and to deal with opportunities.
The devastation of Hurricane Katrina has presented us with an
unprecedented opportunity to focus the spotlight of public attention
and political concern on how to do not just the best job of helping the
victims of this tragic storm but in making it less likely that others
suffer needlessly in the future. Preventing future devastation is the
best way to honor the memory of thousands who have died and respect the
losses of hundreds of thousands or more who are living.
But we are not going to have the opportunity now to come forward with
important issues that bear on over $50 billion. We need to be debating
how the Federal Government can use taxpayer dollars to put people,
places, and property back in harm's way. We should be working to make
sure that citizens are directly engaged in the work of disaster
recovery and mitigation, planning the future of their communities and
putting them to work immediately, the same way I saw when I was in the
tsunami region earlier this year. In just 1 week we were already
putting tsunami victims to work on a cash-for-work program restoring
their communities.
We need to clarify the role that the Federal Government is going to
play in disaster prevention, mitigation, and relief because we are
throwing billions of dollars at problems that we could have taken steps
to minimize in the beginning. Congress should encourage and support
State and local responsibility for disaster prevention, mitigation, and
recovery; and we must employ natural solutions wherever possible.
We cannot do that today. There is no reason that we are not able to
have a rational discussion. I hope this is the last time the Committee
on Rules treats us this way.
Mr. LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART of Florida. Yielding myself such time as I
may consume, Mr. Speaker, we will have time for any and all of the
measures that are brought forth if this rule passes, under
authorization of this rule, for rational and any other kind of debate.
I can assure my colleagues of that, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, we reserve the balance of our time.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to yield 2 minutes to the
gentleman from Illinois (Mr. Emanuel).
Mr. EMANUEL. Mr. Speaker, I would like to thank my colleague from New
York for yielding time.
Mr. Speaker, our most important task right now is to help our fellow
Americans rebuild their lives. The task of this Congress and the task
for this Nation is to restore communities, help people rebuild their
lives and have a retrospection of what happened. We must pinpoint the
errors made prior to the storm and flooding. Failing to respond in a
time of need, when fellow Americans have lost their lives, their loved
ones, their homes, failing to respond in a time of need is
unacceptable.
Identifying failures is not pointing fingers. It is pointing the way
to improve the system for the future. We cannot solve a problem if we
do not think we had a problem. We can both help Americans, which is our
primary task, rebuild their lives, reestablish their communities, but
we must also for all Americans understand what happened here so as it
comes to future crises, future natural disasters, we are able and
capable of responding. Because saying everything worked well, acting
Pollyannish is unacceptable, as much as trying to point fingers and
trying to get political advantage in this situation.
We can do this right. The American people ask the Congress to do this
right.
What does it mean to help people rebuild their lives? First, there
should be universal health care for all children 0 to 18. Second, a
$3,000 education voucher for people going to college, GED, continuing
their education. A housing program to get people in the communities
back to work building their homes, highways and rebuilding all the
infrastructure. Lastly, making sure the recently enacted bankruptcy law
does not affect people in that area, freezing their credit at that time
so they do not go into bankruptcy.
These are the types of things that Congress needs to do to help those
Americans, our fellow Americans, get their lives and their communities
back together and also taking the time to look into what happened here
so this never, ever, ever happens again.
The American people deserve better; and in a time of crisis, they
look to their fellow countrymen and their government, and this Congress
must rise to the task to do that. Today, the way this is handled is not
the right way. We can do better as we seek ideas from all corners to
help our fellow Americans restore their lives.
Mr. LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART of Florida. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such
time as I may consume.
We are considering today, or authorizing consideration, bringing
forth today under this rule, the national flood insurance program,
assistance for that program for those in need in the
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Gulf; the Student Grant Hurricane and Disaster Relief Act, assistance
for the people in the Gulf with regard to student grants and disaster
relief; the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families Emergency Response
and Recovery Act, assistance for those in need under this act, under
that law, with that program, through that program.
We are bringing those measures, those specific measures to the floor
today, in addition to a significant and substantial supplemental
appropriations bill to get aid immediately to those in need.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 5 minutes to the gentleman from Utah (Mr.
Bishop), my distinguished friend and colleague from the Committee on
Rules.
Mr. BISHOP of Utah. Mr. Speaker, I appreciate my good friend, the
gentleman from Florida, for yielding such time right now.
This is obviously a time of great emotional sadness for all of us, as
we are attempting to help fellow Americans who are in a special need, a
special time of need. It is a trying time; and, hopefully, it is one
where we can keep focus on the true issue, which is how to get
emergency relief as quickly as possible to people who desperately need
it.
The rule that is being proposed here, and sometimes in our rhetoric
on these rules we kind of go far afield from what the issue is, the
issue is still the rule, does not prevent any kind of unanimous consent
for more time for more issues to be raised at such time in the future,
but it does provide a backup to guarantee that the issue at the end of
this day will be decided and that relief money can be moved on without
any kind of impediments or Congress trying to add extraneous issues to
the debate or discussion, unless there is unanimous consent, obviously,
for that.
There is precedent for what we are doing. This is not unusual. It has
been done before. It will be done again in the future. It does, though,
try to state that there is a time and a place for everything that we
do. There is a time to try and pass emergency relief and get that
relief moving as quickly as possible, to really hit what is human
suffering.
This particular request deals with temporary assistance. It deals
with providing temporary housing, money for home repairs, medical,
dental costs, repair work, cleanup, ensuring that the firemen get their
pay. It is emergency equipment.
Much of the discussion we have heard this morning deals with long-
range policy issues. I am not saying they are bad, because that policy
discussion needs to take place. It should take place. We need to
determine what the city of New Orleans did well and what it did poorly;
what the State of Louisiana did well, what it did poorly; what the
Federal Government did well. We even need to discuss what the United
States Congress has done well and poorly in this particular issue.
But those need to be discussed with dispassion in some way so that
when we make broad policy decisions, those broad policy decisions can
be made with a clear conscience and clear focus on what the issue
really is. That takes regular order, and for some who would like to
bypass regular order to quickly pass some of these, we are doing a
disservice to long-term policy discussions.
The senior member of the Committee on Appropriations from Wisconsin
is someone I have enjoyed listening to. He oftentimes will say those
things which ring true. What he wants to discuss is significant, but it
needs to be done in the regular order, not on top of this emergency
bill; and I am sure that will take place.
Mr. Speaker, I would also be remiss if I did not take this
opportunity just to say a few things that are positive. Though I do not
know what has been happening throughout the entire world, I do know
what has been happening in my backyard of Utah where some of these
evacuees are presently residing. I guess the State of Utah took the
Jazz; we should also take some of the evacuees at the same time.
In addition to those evacuees who are in my State, the State of Utah
is also stepping up. There are in the State of Utah 475 volunteers who
have been working since Saturday with these evacuees. They have done
everything from having a child care center on site, to providing 6,000
meals, to even having a volunteer life guard manning the pool at the
base at which these evacuees are staying. $2 million since Saturday
have been donated in Salt Lake City as well; 7,000 people have called
asking what they can do. Some of them have been very creative in what
they are trying to do.
A Ronna Guidera who lives in Salt Lake City, and actually in Draper,
went down there and took trips from the military base where the
evacuees are staying into Salt Lake City for sightseeing, for shopping
trips.
Steve Gordon had the idea of actually providing as many tickets as he
can get to go to the Utah-Utah State game. It may not be what they
necessarily wanted to see that Saturday, but it is the best game in
town that we have to offer.
People are stepping up from their hearts for this disaster. It is
also time for Congress to step up with their hearts and provide the
temporary relief, and then use our minds to go back and discuss the
policy issues and policy initiatives, but go through the regular order
so that we do not jump to conclusions, we do not make mistakes as we go
through.
All of these discussions are important, they are there, but the rule
at hand is to get emergency relief on the floor to help people right
now, and we should not lose sight of that in our efforts to try to
expand it into other areas, legitimate discussion areas, but other
areas that do not pertain specifically to this point at hand as to how
we get that $50 billion to help people right here right now.
With that, Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the gentleman's indulgence. I
appreciate the time. I support this rule because it is the right thing
to do to help people right now and put everything in its proper
perspective.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
Washington (Mr. Inslee).
(Mr. INSLEE asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
Mr. INSLEE. Mr. Speaker, this Labor Day weekend I flew from Seattle
to Houston to join thousands of Texans to volunteer in the Astrodome to
help these evacuees, and there I met an incredible family with such
courage and grace, trying to keep their family together on the floor of
the Astrodome.
A woman named Penny told me that her mother named Alice was trapped
at a specific address on Bell Street in New Orleans, and I pitched in
to try to help to get her rescued. For 3 days, the most powerful Nation
in the world was incapable of going to a specific address on Bell
Street and rescuing this 80-year-old lady named Alice.
While that was going on, a lot of the lower level FEMA people were
working hard to effectuate that, but they were handicapped by a lack of
senior leadership, senior leadership who failed to anticipate the
breaching of the levees; senior leadership who failed to call for help,
who waited 5 hours to call for help after landfall of the hurricane;
senior leadership that allowed FEMA's job to protect us from hurricanes
to be totally overwhelmed by the responsibility regarding terrorism.
This senior leadership led me to conclude, and millions of Americans
to conclude, that we cannot have confidence in senior leadership at
FEMA today. This is not a matter of finger-pointing or accountability.
It is a matter of whether we have confidence in dealing with the next
hurricane that is getting ready in the Atlantic Ocean right now. This
is the middle. I heard one person say this is the third inning of a
nine inning game of the hurricane season. We have to get this problem
fixed now.
After the debacle at Pearl Harbor, America did not wait until the end
of World War II to fix the problem that led us to be caught with our
pants down at Pearl Harbor with such fatality, and we have suffered
probably more fatalities here than we did at Pearl Harbor.
We need, on a bipartisan basis, to fix this problem now; and we need
to help the President do that because of his attitude of saying,
Brownie, you did a great job, it just will not wash with the American
people. It is a shame that this rule will not allow Americans to get
what they deserve, a working FEMA.
Mr. LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART of Florida. Mr. Speaker, I yield such time as
he may consume to the gentleman
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from California (Mr. Dreier), the chairman of the Committee on Rules.
(Mr. DREIER asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
Mr. DREIER. Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong support of this rule for a
very obvious reason. It is absolutely essential that we do everything
that we can at this moment to ensure that our fellow Americans who are
in desperate need have that need met.
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What is it we hope to do under this suspension rule? We want to make
sure we provide for flexibility when it comes to the flood insurance
program. That seems to me to be a strong bipartisan priority that we
have.
What else do we want to do? We want to ensure that education
assistance for non-Pell grant recipients gets to them.
What else do we want to do? One of the very important programs, the
TANF program, Temporary Assistance to Needy Families, we want to make
sure we can expedite that aid to these people who have been victimized
by this storm just as quickly as we possibly can.
Mr. Speaker, a vote against this rule is in fact a vote which would
deny us the opportunity to move as quickly as possible to provide that
kind of aid relief.
Now, I know there is a lot of discussion over what it is that we will
see for the structure for debate during consideration of this large,
multibillion dollar supplemental appropriations bill. Nothing in this
rule whatsoever, nothing in this rule whatsoever, Mr. Speaker, will in
any way impinge on the ability of the chairman of the Committee on
Appropriations, the gentleman from California (Mr. Lewis), and the
ranking minority member, the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Obey), from
striking a unanimous consent agreement that would allow for an
extension of debate as they consider that appropriations bill.
We all know how imperative it is that we act as quickly as we
possibly can to not only address the three items that I mentioned, but
to get the aid to those who need it on the dollar level. Why? Because
we know it is quite possible that just this evening, as early as this
evening, we could see the $10.5 billion that we, under a unanimous
consent agreement appropriated at the end of last week, run out. And we
do not want that to run out. We want to make sure that that continued
flow of assistance can flow in as expeditiously as possible. The
responsible thing is for us to come together in this time of crisis.
This Sunday marks the fourth anniversary of September 11. Tragically,
3,000 lives were lost in New York City, in Pennsylvania, and here in
the metropolitan area. The projections are that as many as three times
as many people, maybe even more than that, have lost their lives in
this horrible crisis that we have seen take place in Louisiana and
Mississippi. Now, Mr. Speaker, I believe that what we should do is just
as we did following September 11 of 2001. We should come together, pass
this rule with strong bipartisan support, move ahead with this
appropriations bill, and, yes, work on a bipartisan unanimous consent
agreement that will allow an extension of debate so that every Member
who wants to have an opportunity to be heard on this can be heard. But
do not vote ``no'' and impinge on our ability to meet this very
important need.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume
to note that we would be happy to come together if the Republicans will
just tell the Democrats where the meeting is.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from Oregon (Mr.
DeFazio).
Mr. DeFAZIO. Mr. Speaker, I would suggest to the chairman of the
Committee on Rules that more time for words would be great, but what
would be better would be action by this Congress to fix a dysfunctional
Federal Emergency Management Agency. Dysfunctional at the top, not at
the bottom. People at the bottom want to get out there. The first
responders want to be out there. They still do not have effective
interoperable communications 4 years after 9/11.
Given the befuddled response at the top, I am not confident that this
$51.8 billion we are going to borrow, indebting a generation of
Americans of probably another $100 billion or $200 billion, will be
well and effectively spent and get the relief and the rescue efforts
and the rebuilding efforts to the people and the communities that are
devastated.
We are not putting in place oversight and protection against crisis
profiteering. We are not trying to improve the agency. It is the middle
of a hurricane season. What if there is another tomorrow or next week?
Will the terrorists wait until we are done with our natural disasters?
No. We need to begin the review and oversight now. They say, Oh, you
cannot do that in the middle of a crisis.
What is the greatest crisis this country has experienced in the last
100 years? I think it might have been World War II. In the middle of
World War II, Harry Truman chaired a committee investigating war
profiteering under FDR, the greatest President of the last century, and
reforms were put in place. Congress did its job.
We need to improve FEMA. We need a better response. The first
responders need better tools. The people that have been affected need
effective relief, they need compassion, and they need assistance.
Shoveling money at them and more words will not do it. We need to make
some changes, and you are not going to allow any changes or any
amendments here on this floor today, but you will allow us a few more
words. We might get up to $1 billion a minute instead of $1.2 billion a
minute.
Mr. LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART of Florida. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such
time as I may consume.
What we are doing today, Mr. Speaker, is not shoving words down
anybody. We are authorizing consideration for this House to pass
assistance for the National Flood Insurance program, the Student Grant
Hurricane and Disaster Relief Act, the Temporary Assistance for Needy
Families Emergency Response and Recovery Act, and an emergency
supplemental bill to continue the assistance to those in dreadful need
as we speak.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may
consume, and I will be asking Members to vote ``no'' on the previous
question. If it is defeated, I will amend the rule to allow the House
to consider an amendment by the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Obey) to
the emergency supplemental bill to reestablish the Federal Emergency
Management Agency as a freestanding independent agency.
An amendment would do a number of important things to fix the
problems with FEMA. It will reestablish it as an independent agency,
allow the director to report directly to the President, require the
director to have emergency response experience, limit the director's
term to 5 years, and establish a deputy director for disaster relief.
Mr. Speaker, I know all of us in the House were truly stunned and
horrified by the terrible and heartbreaking scenes from New Orleans and
the other Gulf Coast States that unfolded last week. And to make
matters even worse was the failure on the part of the White House and
the lead Federal agency on disaster relief to take immediate action
that might have saved hundreds of lives and alleviated the immense and
immeasurable suffering that was inflicted on so many of our fellow
Americans.
Members should be aware that a ``no'' vote will not in any way
prevent the House from considering and approving the desperately needed
supplemental for the victims of Hurricane Katrina. We all agree
hurricane relief must happen immediately and it will happen today, but
a ``no'' vote will let us debate the serious and urgent matter
regarding FEMA's future ability to respond immediately and responsibly
to any disaster that occurs on our soil so that we may never see such a
thing again as we have witnessed with FEMA's work.
I urge Members to vote ``no'' on the previous question.
Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent to insert the text of my
amendment immediately prior to the vote on the previous question.
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. LaTourette). Is there objection to the
request of the gentlewoman from New York?
There was no objection.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.
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Mr. LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART of Florida. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such
time as I may consume, and I thank all of our colleagues who have
debated this important issue this morning.
I would like again to also thank the two Senators from Louisiana,
Senators Landrieu and Vitter for their joint bipartisan statement where
they say that Congress will have ample time to thoroughly investigate
this event and that they plan, as many of us do, to play a major role
in those important investigations, but they continue saying, please do
not make the citizens of Louisiana a victim once again by allowing our
immediate needs to be delayed by partisanship.
Now, we have heard a number of ideas today brought forth, really for
sweeping policy changes. They definitely should be considered. And
perhaps many of those ideas will become law. But today what we need to
do is what we are doing. We are getting the assistance and we are
increasing it to those who are in desperate need.
So, Mr. Speaker, I would urge my colleagues to support this rule that
brings forth four pieces of assistance, legislation for assistance to
those in desperate need, and would also urge, obviously, favorable
consideration of the underlying pieces of legislation that we are
authorizing being considered today.
Mr. LEVIN. Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of the emergency funding
bill that the House will consider later today to continue relief and
recovery operations in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. We need to
approve this measure today with all deliberate speed. I do object to
the procedure in which the House will take up this emergency measure,
which provides just 40 minutes to debate a $51 billion appropriation,
with no amendments allowed.
I urge the House to reject this procedure and allow Representative
Obey to offer an amendment to strengthen the Federal Emergency
Management Agency and re-establish FEMA as a separate, independent
agency whose Director reports directly to the President. The Obey
amendment would also require that the Director of FEMA have extensive
experience in emergency and disaster-related management. The amendment
is very similar to the legislation introduced earlier this week by my
colleague, Representative Dingell, which was cosponsored by myself and
64 other members of the House. This is a proposal that should enjoy
bipartisan support, since I note that Representative Foley and other
Republican members have introduced similar legislation.
Let me speak candidly. The response of the federal government to
Hurricane Katrina was woefully inadequate. Four years after 9-11, the
federal government was not ready to respond to a national catastrophe
that has left a major American city uninhabitable. In the weeks and
months ahead, we need an investigation of why the federal government's
response fell so far short of the mark, and we need accountability. One
thing is already clear: the federal agency with lead responsibility for
responding to national disasters--FEMA--has lost its way since it was
transferred to the Department of Homeland Security. This is simply not
the same agency that responded so effectively to the Oklahoma City
bombing in 1995. Since being transferred to the Department of Homeland
Security in 2001, FEMA's ability to respond to natural disasters has
been eroded.
I believe we need to restore FEMA's status as an independent agency.
In addition, the Director of FEMA should be an experienced professional
in areas of emergency management, and not the former head of the
International Arabian Horse Association with no previous background in
disaster relief.
I urge my colleagues to vote to allow Representative Obey the
opportunity to offer his amendment. The next natural disaster could
happen next week, and we need to restore FEMA's ability to respond to
it. I also ask all my colleagues to join me in voting for the
underlying bill.
The text of the amendment previously referred to by Ms. Slaughter is
as follows:
At the end of the resolution add the following new
sections:
Sec. 2. The amendment specified in section 3 shall be in
order at any time during the consideration of a motion to
suspend the rules and pass H.R. 3673. Such amendment shall be
considered as read, shall be debatable for one hour equally
divided and controlled by the proponent and an opponent,
shall not be subject to amendment, and shall not be subject
to a demand for a division of the question. All points of
order against such amendment are waived.
Sec. 3. The amendment by Representative Obey referred to in
Section 2 is as follows:
Amendment to H.R. ___, as Reported
Offered by Mr. Obey of Wisconsin
At the end of the bill, insert before the section
containing the short title the following:
SEC. __. FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY.
(a) Independent Establishment.--The Federal Emergency
Management Agency shall be an independent establishment in
the executive branch.
(b) Director.--
(1) In general.--The Agency shall be headed by a Director,
who shall be appointed by the President, by and with the
advice and consent of the Senate, and who shall report
directly to the President. The Director of the Federal
Emergency Management Agency shall be compensated at the rate
provided for at level I of the Executive Schedule under
section 5312 of title 5, United States Code.
(2) Qualifications.--The Director of the Federal Emergency
Management Agency shall be appointed from among persons who
have significant experience, knowledge, training, and
expertise in the area of emergency preparedness, response,
recovery, and mitigation as related to natural disasters and
other national cataclysmic events.
(3) Term of office.--The term of office of an individual
appointed as the Director shall be 5 years.
(c) Deputy Director.--
(1) In general.--There shall be in the Federal Emergency
Management Agency one Deputy Director, who shall be appointed
by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the
Senate. The Deputy Director shall be compensated at the rate
provided for at level II of the Executive Schedule under
section 5313 of title 5, United States Code.
(2) Qualifications.--The Deputy Director shall be appointed
from among persons who have extensive background in disaster
response and disaster preparedness.
(3) Responsibilities.--Subject to the direction and control
of the Director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency,
the Deputy Director shall have primary responsibility within
the Agency for natural disasters and non-natural disasters,
including large-scale terrorist attacks.
(d) Transfer of Functions.--There shall be transferred to
the Director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency--
(1) the functions (including the functions under paragraphs
(3) and (8) of section 430(c) of the Homeland Security Act of
2002 (6 U.S.C. 238(c)), personnel, assets, and liabilities of
the Department of Homeland Security relating to the Federal
Emergency Management Agency; and
(2) the functions of the Department of Homeland Security
under sections 502 (other than paragraph (2)) and 503(1) of
the Homeland Security Act of 2002 (6 U.S.C. 312, 313), and
the personnel, assets, and liabilities of the Department
relating to such functions.
(e) Transition Period.--The transfers under this section
shall be carried out as soon as practicable, but no later
than the 120th day following the date of enactment of this
section. During the transition period, the Secretary of
Homeland Security shall provide to the Director of the
Federal Emergency Management Agency such assistance,
including the use of personnel and assets, as the Director
may request in preparing for the transfer.
(f) Personnel Provisions.--
(1) Appointments.--The Director of the Federal Emergency
Management Agency may appoint and fix the compensation of
such officers and employees, including investigators,
attorneys, and administrative law judges, as may be necessary
to carry out the respective functions transferred under this
section. Except as otherwise provided by law, such officers
and employees shall be appointed in accordance with the civil
service laws and their compensation fixed in accordance with
title 5, United States Code.
(2) Experts and consultants.--The Director of the Federal
Emergency Management Agency may obtain the services of
experts and consultants in accordance with section 3109 of
title 5, United States Code, and compensate such experts and
consultants for each day (including traveltime) at rates not
in excess of the rate of pay for level IV of the Executive
Schedule under section 5315 of such title. The Director of
the Federal Emergency Management Agency may pay experts and
consultants who are serving away from their homes or regular
place of business, travel expenses and per diem in lieu of
subsistence at rates authorized by sections 5702 and 5703 of
such title for persons in Government service employed
intermittently.
(g) Delegation and Assignment.--Except where otherwise
expressly prohibited by law or otherwise provided by this
section, the Director of the Federal Emergency Management
Agency may delegate any of the functions transferred to the
Director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency by this
section and any function transferred or granted to such
Director after the effective date of this section to such
officers and employees of the Federal Emergency Management
Agency as the Director may designate, and may authorize
successive redelegations of such functions as may be
necessary or appropriate. No delegation of functions by the
Director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency under
this section or under any other provision of this section
shall relieve such Director of responsibility for the
administration of such functions.
(h) Reorganization.--The Director of the Federal Emergency
Management Agency is authorized to allocate or reallocate any
function transferred under section 201 among
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the officers of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, and
to establish, consolidate, alter, or discontinue such
organizational entities in the Federal Emergency Management
Agency, as may be necessary or appropriate.
(i) Rules.--The Director of the Federal Emergency
Management Agency is authorized to prescribe, in accordance
with the provisions of chapters 5 and 6 of title 5, United
States Code, such rules and regulations as the Director
determines necessary or appropriate to administer and manage
the functions of the Federal Emergency Management Agency.
(j) Transfer and Allocations of Appropriations and
Personnel.--Except as otherwise provided in this section, the
personnel employed in connection with, and the assets,
liabilities, contracts, property, records, and unexpended
balances of appropriations, authorizations, allocations, and
other funds employed, used, held, arising from, available to,
or to be made available in connection with the functions
transferred by this section, subject to section 1531 of title
31, United States Code, shall be transferred to the Federal
Emergency Management Agency. Unexpended funds transferred
pursuant to this subsection shall be used only for the
purposes for which the funds were originally authorized and
appropriated.
(k) Incidental Transfers.--The Director of the Office of
Management and Budget, at such time or times as the Director
shall provide, is authorized to make such determinations as
may be necessary with regard to the functions transferred by
this section, and to make such additional incidental
dispositions of personnel, assets, liabilities, grants,
contracts, property, records, and unexpended balances of
appropriations, authorizations, allocations, and other funds
held, used, arising from, available to, or to be made
available in connection with such functions, as may be
necessary to carry out the provisions of this section. The
Director of the Office of Management and Budget shall provide
for the termination of the affairs of all entities terminated
by this section and for such further measures and
dispositions as may be necessary to effectuate the purposes
of this section.
(l) Effect on Personnel.--
(1) In general.--Except as otherwise provided by this
section, the transfer pursuant to this section of full-time
personnel (except special Government employees) and part-time
personnel holding permanent positions shall not cause any
such employee to be separated or reduced in grade or
compensation for one year after the date of transfer of such
employee under this section.
(2) Executive schedule positions.--Except as otherwise
provided in this section, any person who, on the day
preceding the effective date of this section, held a position
compensated in accordance with the Executive Schedule
prescribed in chapter 53 of title 5, United States Code, and
who, without a break in service, is appointed in the Federal
Emergency Management Agency to a position having duties
comparable to the duties performed immediately preceding such
appointment shall continue to be compensated in such new
position at not less than the rate provided for such previous
position, for the duration of the service of such person in
such new position.
(m) Savings Provisions.--
(1) Continuing effect of legal documents.--All orders,
determinations, rules, regulations, permits, agreements,
grants, contracts, certificates, licenses, registrations,
privileges, and other administrative actions--
(A) which have been issued, made, granted, or allowed to
become effective by the President, any Federal agency or
official thereof, or by a court of competent jurisdiction, in
the performance of functions which are transferred under this
section, and
(B) which are in effect at the time this section takes
effect, or were final before the effective date of this
section and are to become effective on or after the effective
date of this section,
shall continue in effect according to their terms until
modified, terminated, superseded, set aside, or revoked in
accordance with law by the President, the Director of the
Federal Emergency Management Agency or other authorized
official, a court of competent jurisdiction, or by operation
of law.
(2) Proceedings not affected.--The provisions of this
section shall not affect any proceedings, including notices
of proposed rulemaking, or any application for any license,
permit, certificate, or financial assistance pending before
the Federal Emergency Management Agency at the time this
section takes effect, with respect to functions transferred
by this section but such proceedings and applications shall
continue. Orders shall be issued in such proceedings, appeals
shall be taken therefrom, and payments shall be made pursuant
to such orders, as if this section had not been enacted, and
orders issued in any such proceedings shall continue in
effect until modified, terminated, superseded, or revoked by
a duly authorized official, by a court of competent
jurisdiction, or by operation of law. Nothing in this
paragraph shall be deemed to prohibit the discontinuance or
modification of any such proceeding under the same terms and
conditions and to the same extent that such proceeding could
have been discontinued or modified if this section had not
been enacted.
(3) Suits not affected.--The provisions of this section
shall not affect suits commenced before the effective date of
this section, and in all such suits, proceedings shall be
had, appeals taken, and judgments rendered in the same manner
and with the same effect as if this section had not been
enacted.
(4) Nonabatement of actions.--No suit, action, or other
proceeding commenced by or against the Federal Emergency
Management Agency, or by or against any individual in the
official capacity of such individual as an officer of the
Federal Emergency Management Agency, shall abate by reason of
the enactment of this section.
(5) Administrative actions relating to promulgation of
regulations.--Any administrative action relating to the
preparation or promulgation of a regulation by the Federal
Emergency Management Agency relating to a function
transferred under this section may be continued by the
Federal Emergency Management Agency with the same effect as
if this section had not been enacted.
(n) References.--Any reference in any other Federal law,
Executive order, rule, regulation, or delegation of
authority, or any document of or pertaining to a department,
agency, or office from which a function is transferred by
this section--
(1) to the head of such department, agency, or office is
deemed to refer to the head of the department, agency, or
office to which such function is transferred; or
(2) to such department, agency, or office is deemed to
refer to the department, agency, or office to which such
function is transferred.
(o) Conforming Amendments and Repeals.--
(1) Homeland security act of 2002.--
(A) Section 504.--Section 504(a) of the Homeland Security
Act of 2002 (6 U.S.C. 314(a)) is amended by striking ``,
major disaster,''.
(B) Repeals.--The following provisions of the Homeland
Security Act of 2002 (6 U.S.C. 101 et seq.) are repealed:
(i) Section 2(11).
(ii) Section 503(1).
(iii) Section 507.
(iv) Section 508.
(2) Title 5, united states code.--
(A) Director.--Section 5312 of title 5, United States Code,
is amended by adding at the end the following:
* * * * *
(B) Deputy director.--Section 5313 of title 5, United
States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following:
* * * * *
(3) Additional conforming amendments.--
(A) Recommended legislation.--After consultation with the
appropriate committees of the Congress and the Director of
the Office of Management and Budget, the Director of the
Federal Emergency Management Agency shall prepare and submit
to Congress recommended legislation containing technical and
conforming amendments to reflect the changes made by this
section.
(B) Submission to congress.--Not later than 6 months after
the effective date of this section, the Director of the
Federal Emergency Management Agency shall submit the
recommended legislation referred to under subsection (a).
(p) Limitation on Statutory Construction.--Nothing in this
section shall be construed to limit the primary mission of
the Department of Homeland Security set forth in
subparagraphs (A), (B), (E), (F), (G), and (H) of section
101(b) of the Homeland Security Act of 2002 (6 U.S.C.
111(b)).
Mr. LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART of Florida. Mr. Speaker, I yield back the
balance of my time, and I move the previous question on the resolution.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on ordering the previous
question.
The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that
the ayes appeared to have it.
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, I object to the vote on the ground that a
quorum is not present and make the point of order that a quorum is not
present.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Evidently a quorum is not present.
The Sergeant at Arms will notify absent Members.
Pursuant to clause 9 of rule XX, the Chair will reduce to 5 minutes
the minimum time for electronic voting, if ordered, on the question of
adoption of the resolution.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--yeas 221,
nays 193, not voting 19, as follows:
[Roll No. 458]
YEAS--221
Aderholt
Akin
Alexander
Bachus
Barrett (SC)
Bartlett (MD)
Barton (TX)
Bass
Beauprez
Biggert
Bilirakis
Bishop (UT)
Blackburn
Blunt
Boehlert
Boehner
Bonilla
Bonner
Bono
Boozman
Boustany
Bradley (NH)
Brown (SC)
Brown-Waite, Ginny
Burgess
Burton (IN)
Calvert
Camp
Cannon
Cantor
Capito
Carter
Castle
Chabot
Chocola
Coble
Cole (OK)
Crenshaw
Culberson
Cunningham
Davis (KY)
Davis, Jo Ann
Davis, Tom
Deal (GA)
DeLay
Dent
Diaz-Balart, L.
Diaz-Balart, M.
Doolittle
Drake
Dreier
Duncan
Ehlers
English (PA)
Everett
Feeney
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Ferguson
Fitzpatrick (PA)
Flake
Foley
Forbes
Fortenberry
Fossella
Foxx
Franks (AZ)
Frelinghuysen
Gallegly
Garrett (NJ)
Gerlach
Gibbons
Gilchrest
Gillmor
Gingrey
Gohmert
Goode
Goodlatte
Granger
Graves
Green (WI)
Gutknecht
Hall
Harris
Hart
Hastings (WA)
Hayes
Hayworth
Hefley
Hensarling
Herger
Hobson
Hoekstra
Hostettler
Hulshof
Hunter
Inglis (SC)
Issa
Istook
Jenkins
Jindal
Johnson (CT)
Johnson (IL)
Johnson, Sam
Jones (NC)
Keller
Kelly
Kennedy (MN)
King (IA)
King (NY)
Kingston
Kirk
Kline
Knollenberg
Kolbe
Kuhl (NY)
LaHood
Latham
LaTourette
Leach
Lewis (CA)
Lewis (KY)
Linder
LoBiondo
Lucas
Lungren, Daniel E.
Mack
Manzullo
Marchant
McCaul (TX)
McCotter
McHenry
McHugh
McKeon
McMorris
Mica
Miller (FL)
Miller (MI)
Miller, Gary
Moran (KS)
Murphy
Musgrave
Myrick
Neugebauer
Ney
Northup
Norwood
Nunes
Nussle
Osborne
Otter
Oxley
Paul
Pearce
Pence
Peterson (PA)
Petri
Pickering
Pitts
Platts
Poe
Pombo
Porter
Price (GA)
Pryce (OH)
Putnam
Radanovich
Ramstad
Regula
Rehberg
Reichert
Renzi
Reynolds
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
Rogers (MI)
Rohrabacher
Ros-Lehtinen
Royce
Ryan (WI)
Ryun (KS)
Saxton
Schmidt
Schwarz (MI)
Sensenbrenner
Sessions
Shadegg
Shaw
Shays
Sherwood
Shimkus
Shuster
Simmons
Simpson
Smith (NJ)
Smith (TX)
Sodrel
Souder
Stearns
Sullivan
Sweeney
Tancredo
Taylor (NC)
Terry
Thomas
Thornberry
Tiahrt
Tiberi
Turner
Upton
Walden (OR)
Walsh
Wamp
Weldon (FL)
Weldon (PA)
Weller
Westmoreland
Whitfield
Wicker
Wilson (NM)
Wilson (SC)
Wolf
Young (FL)
NAYS--193
Abercrombie
Ackerman
Allen
Andrews
Baca
Baird
Baldwin
Barrow
Bean
Becerra
Berman
Berry
Bishop (GA)
Bishop (NY)
Blumenauer
Boren
Boswell
Boucher
Boyd
Brady (PA)
Brown (OH)
Brown, Corrine
Capps
Capuano
Cardin
Cardoza
Carnahan
Carson
Case
Chandler
Clay
Cleaver
Clyburn
Conyers
Cooper
Costa
Costello
Cramer
Crowley
Cuellar
Cummings
Davis (AL)
Davis (CA)
Davis (FL)
Davis (IL)
Davis (TN)
DeFazio
DeGette
Delahunt
DeLauro
Dicks
Dingell
Doggett
Doyle
Edwards
Emanuel
Engel
Eshoo
Etheridge
Evans
Farr
Fattah
Filner
Ford
Frank (MA)
Gonzalez
Gordon
Green, Al
Green, Gene
Grijalva
Gutierrez
Harman
Hastings (FL)
Herseth
Higgins
Hinchey
Hinojosa
Holden
Holt
Honda
Hooley
Hoyer
Inslee
Israel
Jackson (IL)
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Jefferson
Johnson, E. B.
Jones (OH)
Kanjorski
Kaptur
Kennedy (RI)
Kildee
Kilpatrick (MI)
Kind
Kucinich
Langevin
Lantos
Larsen (WA)
Larson (CT)
Lee
Levin
Lewis (GA)
Lipinski
Lofgren, Zoe
Lowey
Lynch
Markey
Marshall
Matheson
Matsui
McCarthy
McCollum (MN)
McDermott
McGovern
McIntyre
McKinney
McNulty
Meehan
Meek (FL)
Meeks (NY)
Menendez
Michaud
Millender-McDonald
Miller (NC)
Miller, George
Mollohan
Moore (KS)
Moore (WI)
Moran (VA)
Murtha
Nadler
Napolitano
Neal (MA)
Obey
Ortiz
Owens
Pallone
Pascrell
Pastor
Payne
Pelosi
Peterson (MN)
Pomeroy
Price (NC)
Rahall
Rangel
Reyes
Ross
Rothman
Roybal-Allard
Ruppersberger
Rush
Ryan (OH)
Sabo
Salazar
Sanchez, Linda T.
Sanders
Schakowsky
Schiff
Schwartz (PA)
Scott (GA)
Scott (VA)
Serrano
Sherman
Skelton
Slaughter
Smith (WA)
Snyder
Solis
Spratt
Stark
Strickland
Stupak
Tanner
Tauscher
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Tierney
Towns
Udall (CO)
Udall (NM)
Van Hollen
Velazquez
Visclosky
Wasserman Schultz
Waters
Watson
Watt
Waxman
Woolsey
Wu
Wynn
NOT VOTING--19
Baker
Berkley
Brady (TX)
Butterfield
Buyer
Conaway
Cubin
Emerson
Hyde
Maloney
McCrery
Melancon
Oberstar
Olver
Sanchez, Loretta
Taylor (MS)
Weiner
Wexler
Young (AK)
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Messrs. BAIRD, KILDEE, VISCLOSKY, JEFFERSON, HINOJOSA, FATTAH, RUSH,
Ms. KILPATRICK of Michigan and Ms. HARMAN changed their vote from
``yea'' to ``nay.''
Mr. GUTKNECHT changed his vote from ``nay'' to ``yea.''
So the previous question was ordered.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. LaTourette). The question is on the
resolution.
The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that
the ayes appeared to have it.
Recorded Vote
Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, I demand a recorded vote.
A recorded vote was ordered.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. This will be a 5-minute vote.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 235,
noes 179, not voting 19, as follows:
[Roll No. 459]
AYES--235
Aderholt
Akin
Alexander
Bachus
Barrett (SC)
Bartlett (MD)
Barton (TX)
Bass
Beauprez
Biggert
Bilirakis
Bishop (UT)
Blackburn
Blunt
Boehlert
Boehner
Bonilla
Bonner
Bono
Boozman
Boswell
Boustany
Bradley (NH)
Brown (SC)
Brown-Waite, Ginny
Burgess
Burton (IN)
Calvert
Camp
Cannon
Cantor
Capito
Cardin
Cardoza
Carter
Castle
Chabot
Chandler
Chocola
Coble
Cole (OK)
Crenshaw
Culberson
Cunningham
Davis (FL)
Davis (KY)
Davis, Jo Ann
Davis, Tom
Deal (GA)
DeLay
Dent
Diaz-Balart, L.
Diaz-Balart, M.
Dicks
Doolittle
Drake
Dreier
Duncan
Edwards
Ehlers
English (PA)
Eshoo
Everett
Feeney
Ferguson
Fitzpatrick (PA)
Foley
Forbes
Fortenberry
Fossella
Foxx
Franks (AZ)
Frelinghuysen
Gallegly
Garrett (NJ)
Gerlach
Gibbons
Gilchrest
Gillmor
Gingrey
Gohmert
Gonzalez
Goode
Goodlatte
Granger
Graves
Green (WI)
Gutknecht
Hall
Harris
Hart
Hastings (WA)
Hayes
Hayworth
Hefley
Hensarling
Herger
Hobson
Hoekstra
Hostettler
Hulshof
Hunter
Inglis (SC)
Issa
Istook
Jenkins
Jindal
Johnson (CT)
Johnson (IL)
Johnson, Sam
Jones (NC)
Keller
Kelly
Kennedy (MN)
King (IA)
King (NY)
Kingston
Kirk
Kline
Knollenberg
Kolbe
Kuhl (NY)
LaHood
Langevin
Latham
LaTourette
Leach
Lewis (CA)
Lewis (KY)
Linder
LoBiondo
Lucas
Lungren, Daniel E.
Lynch
Mack
Manzullo
Marchant
McCaul (TX)
McCotter
McHenry
McHugh
McIntyre
McKeon
McMorris
Menendez
Mica
Miller (FL)
Miller (MI)
Miller, Gary
Moore (KS)
Moran (KS)
Murphy
Musgrave
Myrick
Neugebauer
Ney
Northup
Norwood
Nunes
Nussle
Osborne
Otter
Oxley
Paul
Pearce
Pence
Peterson (PA)
Petri
Pickering
Pitts
Platts
Poe
Pombo
Porter
Price (GA)
Pryce (OH)
Putnam
Radanovich
Ramstad
Regula
Rehberg
Reichert
Renzi
Reynolds
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
Rogers (MI)
Rohrabacher
Ros-Lehtinen
Royce
Ruppersberger
Ryan (WI)
Ryun (KS)
Saxton
Schmidt
Schwarz (MI)
Sensenbrenner
Sessions
Shadegg
Shaw
Shays
Sherwood
Shimkus
Shuster
Simmons
Simpson
Smith (NJ)
Smith (TX)
Sodrel
Souder
Stearns
Sullivan
Sweeney
Taylor (NC)
Terry
Thomas
Thornberry
Tiahrt
Tiberi
Turner
Upton
Walden (OR)
Walsh
Wamp
Weldon (FL)
Weldon (PA)
Weller
Westmoreland
Whitfield
Wicker
Wilson (NM)
Wilson (SC)
Wolf
Wynn
Young (FL)
NOES--179
Abercrombie
Ackerman
Allen
Andrews
Baca
Baird
Baldwin
Barrow
Bean
Becerra
Berman
Berry
Bishop (GA)
Bishop (NY)
Blumenauer
Boren
Boucher
Boyd
Brady (PA)
Brown (OH)
Brown, Corrine
Capps
Capuano
Carnahan
Carson
Case
Clay
Cleaver
Clyburn
Conyers
Cooper
Costa
Costello
Cramer
Crowley
Cuellar
Cummings
Davis (AL)
Davis (CA)
Davis (IL)
Davis (TN)
DeFazio
DeGette
Delahunt
DeLauro
Dingell
Doggett
Doyle
Emanuel
Engel
Etheridge
Evans
Farr
Fattah
Filner
Flake
Ford
Frank (MA)
Gordon
Green, Al
Green, Gene
Grijalva
Gutierrez
Harman
Hastings (FL)
Herseth
Higgins
Hinchey
Hinojosa
Holden
Holt
Honda
Hooley
Hoyer
Inslee
Israel
Jackson (IL)
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Jefferson
Johnson, E. B.
Jones (OH)
Kanjorski
Kaptur
Kennedy (RI)
Kildee
Kilpatrick (MI)
Kind
Kucinich
Lantos
Larsen (WA)
Larson (CT)
Lee
Levin
Lewis (GA)
Lipinski
Lofgren, Zoe
Lowey
Markey
Marshall
Matheson
Matsui
McCarthy
McCollum (MN)
McDermott
McGovern
McKinney
McNulty
Meehan
Meek (FL)
Meeks (NY)
Michaud
Millender-McDonald
Miller (NC)
Miller, George
Mollohan
Moore (WI)
Moran (VA)
Murtha
Nadler
Neal (MA)
Obey
Ortiz
Owens
Pallone
Pascrell
Pastor
Payne
Pelosi
Peterson (MN)
Pomeroy
Price (NC)
Rahall
Rangel
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Reyes
Ross
Rothman
Roybal-Allard
Rush
Ryan (OH)
Sabo
Salazar
Sanchez, Linda T.
Sanders
Schakowsky
Schiff
Schwartz (PA)
Scott (GA)
Scott (VA)
Serrano
Sherman
Skelton
Slaughter
Smith (WA)
Snyder
Solis
Spratt
Stark
Strickland
Stupak
Tancredo
Tanner
Tauscher
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Tierney
Towns
Udall (CO)
Udall (NM)
Van Hollen
Velazquez
Visclosky
Wasserman Schultz
Waters
Watson
Watt
Waxman
Wexler
Woolsey
Wu
NOT VOTING--19
Baker
Berkley
Brady (TX)
Butterfield
Buyer
Conaway
Cubin
Emerson
Hyde
Maloney
McCrery
Melancon
Napolitano
Oberstar
Olver
Sanchez, Loretta
Taylor (MS)
Weiner
Young (AK)
{time} 1156
Mr. RAHALL and Ms. WASSERMAN SCHULTZ changed their vote from ``aye''
to ``no.''
Mr. LANGEVIN changed his vote from ``no'' to ``aye.''
So the resolution was agreed to.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
A motion to reconsider was laid on the table.
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