[Congressional Record Volume 151, Number 105 (Thursday, July 28, 2005)]
[House]
[Pages H7034-H7035]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]
SURFACE TRANSPORTATION EXTENSION ACT OF 2005, PART VI
Mr. YOUNG of Alaska. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that the
Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, the Committee on
Science, the Committee on Ways and Means, and the Committee on
Resources be discharged from further consideration of the bill ( H.R.
3512) to provide an extension of administrative expenses for highway,
highway safety, motor carrier safety, transit, and other programs
funded out of the Highway Trust Fund pending enactment of a law
reauthorizing the Transportation Equity Act for the 21st Century, and
ask for its immediate consideration in the House.
The Clerk read the title of the bill.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the request of the
gentleman from Alaska?
Mr. SHAYS. Mr. Speaker, is this the legislation extending time for
the transportation bill?
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Yes, it is.
Mr. SHAYS. Then, Mr. Speaker, reserving my right to object, I yield
to the gentleman from Alaska (Mr. Young).
Mr. YOUNG of Alaska. Mr. Speaker, this is a very simple extension
which is necessary once we pass H.R. 3 to give time for an enrollment
and delivering the package to the Senate, which we hope to do tonight,
and then after being enrolled on to the President, and that will take
some time.
If we do not do this, the Federal Government and the transportation
system will be shut down. This has been requested by the administration
and by the other body.
Mr. SHAYS. Further reserving the right to object, Mr. Speaker, I
would love to have a dialogue with the gentleman bringing out the bill,
but first will express my reservation of objection.
In the full bill that we will be considering, there is a section 1942
entitled Opening of Airfield at Malmstrom Air Force Base, Montana. It
reads: ``Not later than 60 days after the date of the enactment of this
Act, the Secretary of the Air Force shall, (1) open the Air Field At
Malmstrom Air Force Base, Montana; and (2) enable flying operations for
all fixed-wing aircraft at that base.''
My objection is that I understand this resolution extension will only
go until August 14. That means that the President is forced to sign the
bill, the ultimate bill that we pass, even if he has objections to the
bill. I have deep concern that we are basically forcing the President
to agree to an act that will reopen a base closed under BRAC without
any options.
And if the President does the right thing, which would be to veto
this bill so that stuff like this is not made into law, then our
government transportation shuts down. My reservation is that the
extension is not long enough.
Mr. YOUNG of Alaska. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. SHAYS. I yield to the gentleman from Alaska.
Mr. YOUNG of Alaska. May I remind the gentleman, Mr. Speaker, that
this was asked for by the administration. This was the length that they
wanted to have it, 14 days. To in fact have this extension any longer
has not been requested by the administration, and I believe this can do
the job. The President has to make the decision. If he wishes to veto
the bill, he can do so.
But this has been a request by the administration. This is the
eleventh extension we have had on this legislation, and I will be right
up front with everybody that I think it is the last one we should be
doing. This is very important to the States themselves.
The President will make that decision on the merits of the
gentleman's argument, and I understand those merits. I will not
disagree with what he said. I am just suggesting respectfully that this
is action for the bill itself and for the rule. But for the extension,
this has been a request made by the administration, by the other body,
and of course the leadership of this House.
Mr. SHAYS. Mr. Speaker, reclaiming my time, I would like to ask the
gentleman, and will yield to him for a response to this question: Does
the President know that in this transportation bill there is
legislation language that will undo a BRAC closing? Is he aware that
this language is in this?
Mr. YOUNG of Alaska. If the gentleman will continue to yield, I am
confident that the President of the Senate has communicated with the
White House. All through this process they have been very much involved
in the process of passage of this legislation. I have not asked his
opinion on that part of the legislation. I know that this is a request,
and I am trying to fulfill that request.
Mr. OBERSTAR. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. SHAYS. I would be happy to yield to the gentleman from Minnesota.
Mr. OBERSTAR. Mr. Speaker, this item which the gentleman has raised
was an item requested by Senate conferees on which Senate conferees
voted and asked us to consider. We were not aware at the time that it
was a BRAC item. We learned about it subsequently.
Our review of the matter reveals that one runway at the Air Force
base was closed; the other runway is active and still operating as a
military facility. This language would simply keep the other one runway
operating for a variety of purposes, multiuse purposes, at the airport.
Mr. SHAYS. Reclaiming my time, Mr. Speaker, I would just like to
confide with my colleague that I am told that this is language that
will basically reopen a base that was closed under BRAC, and that while
the gentleman is under the interpretation he is under, there are many
of us who believe it is quite different. While I greatly respect the
gentleman, it seems to me this House of Representatives has to someday
stand up to the Senate when they do this kind of stuff, sir.
What we are seeing here is absolutely outrageous, and what would have
been a preferred extension, in my judgment, with all due respect to my
colleagues, would be to have allowed the President such time that he
could have had an extension until he signed this legislation. And if he
did not sign this legislation, we could have come back and corrected
this.
I am hopeful that before the night is out that we are going to delete
section 1942. I do not know how it is going to happen, but, Lord knows,
if it does not, we have basically done something that I think is
shameful to the process and reflects badly not just on the Senate, but
on the House that we would allow them.
Mr. OBERSTAR. Mr. Speaker, if the gentleman will continue to yield, I
concur in the gentleman's feelings about this matter. It should not
have been an item in a conference report on a transportation bill of
this magnitude, but as we all know, these things make their way in. We
did not have full information.
Our information subsequently is that the base was not closed, but
that one runway was shut down, and this language was to open that one
runway. There will be a further opportunity in a technical correction
to address the concerns of the gentleman from Connecticut, and I am
confident that the
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chairman will further consult on the matter.
Mr. TIAHRT. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. SHAYS. Further reserving the right to object, I yield to the
gentleman from Kansas.
Mr. TIAHRT. Mr. Speaker, the concept of a BRAC, the Base Realignment
Commission, is to remove the political process from the closure of
bases in order to get us to the type of military that we need to meet
today's demands to fight terrorism around the globe. And if we insert
our will from another body, the Senate, into this bill, it will
jeopardize that process. I do not think any of us want that here on the
floor.
If we cannot relieve that dissension among our ranks on this bill, it
will not pass on the floor tonight. We all would like to see this
happen, because as the gentleman from Alaska has expressed, we need
this bill. We need this to occur within each of our States. We need to
build highways. We need the infrastructure for our economy. But if this
provision is inserted, it will go beyond the concept of BRAC and take
the political process out of getting the proper size and scope of our
military.
So I hope that whatever provision we have within this rule will
alleviate these provisions, because if they are not, the bill will not
pass. I think there will be enough dissent on both sides of this great
institution, on the floor, in the House, the Republicans and the
Democrats, to keep this from passing.
So I hope we can correct this measure within the rule, because if
not, I think we will have a failed bill. And that will not be good for
this country or for the efforts that we have here tonight.
Mr. DeFAZIO. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. SHAYS. I yield to the gentleman from Oregon.
Mr. DeFAZIO. I would like to try to put this in perspective. I agree
with the gentleman it is egregious this is in the bill. We had a very
difficult negotiation with the Senate. This was snuck in. It is not
like we are reopening a base, repositioning forces and/or equipment. We
are talking about a runway.
The question is, will they, in the next month, until we can have a
technical correction bill, have to run out and pull the weeds and
repaint the lines on the runway? This is not exactly a major part of
the BRAC process.
To forestall the passage of a bill which is almost 2 years overdue,
which invests $286.4 billion in America's infrastructure, because there
might be some weeds pulled on a runway in the interim, I agree it is
offensive, but we can fix it and challenge the Senate at a later date.
But to hold up the entire bill and forestall the investment, there are
States who are waiting today and who will spend money under this bill
and commit money under this bill this construction season, putting
thousands of people to work and making needed investments in America.
Mr. SHAYS. Reclaiming my time, Mr. Speaker, the gentleman is making a
case well beyond this issue.
I would like to ask the gentleman a question, and would be happy to
yield to him to respond. It was my understanding that this provision of
60 days had been shorter, and somehow people felt that by extending to
60 days, they had solved the objection to this bill. Is it true that
when this bill came out of conference, it was less than 60 days?
Mr. DeFAZIO. I am not sure what provision the gentleman is talking
about.
Mr. SHAYS. Does the gentleman know the provision I am talking about?
It says, ``Not later than 60 days after the date of the enactment of
this Act, the Secretary of the Air Force shall open the air field at
Malmstrom Air Force Base, Montana.'' Open it.
Mr. DeFAZIO. Right. It would reopen a runway.
Mr. SHAYS. ``And enable flying operations for all fixed-wing aircraft
at that base.'' It is opening a base. Mr. Speaker, I am prepared to
make a closing comment, and if I am not allowed to, I would object. And
my closing comment is this. This is to open a base that was closed.
This 60 days was added as a sop to the House, in my judgment, with all
due respect, to somehow allow everybody to save face. We are not in
session for all 60 days.
Mr. YOUNG of Florida. Mr. Speaker, I withdraw my unanimous consent
request at this time to consult with the Senate and see if we cannot
resolve this problem.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Unanimous consent is not required. The
request is withdrawn.
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