[Congressional Record Volume 150, Number 135 (Saturday, November 20, 2004)]
[Senate]
[Pages S11739-S11740]
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OMNIBUS APPROPRIATIONS
Mr. FRIST. Mr. President, I know the last several hours have been
difficult hours. A lot of people have been wondering exactly what is
going on with the Omnibus bill, which people expect to vote on later
tonight, which we will be voting on shortly. We will lay out the
unanimous consent request in a few moments.
The language we have been talking about over the last 2, 2\1/2\
hours--I will refer to it as the Istook language--everybody agrees
should not be in the underlying Omnibus bill. It was brought to
people's attention when staff had looked at it late this afternoon, and
everybody agrees it should not be in there.
The challenge we have had, from a procedural standpoint, is that the
House has passed the Omnibus bill with that in it. Now we are to
address it, and both Members of the House, including the Speaker, whom
I have talked to directly, and our colleagues say it should not be
there.
Procedurally, how do we accomplish that? Once we pass this bill, it
would become the law of the land. It should not be there, but it would
be there for a period of time. The potential for abuse would exist.
Mutually, we have agreed the only way to eliminate that is to send a
correcting enrollment resolution back to the House of Representatives.
The problem is they are not there. What we will do shortly--it will be
in the UC--is we will pass that resolution, send it to the House. The
House will receive that most likely on Wednesday. We also tonight will
pass a continuing resolution, which we will comment on shortly, to
allow business to continue tonight; and we will address the Omnibus and
will vote on the Omnibus bill tonight and hopefully pass that bill.
That bill will be sent to the desk, and it will be held there until the
House acts, which will likely be Wednesday. At that point, and not
until that point, this bill will actually be sent to the House or
actually become law. Thus, there will be no window where this clause,
this Istook language, will be law. It will not pass until it has been
corrected in the bill, taken out of the underlying Omnibus bill.
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Procedurally, it means we will pass the continuing resolution
tonight. We will have to do a modification of the adjournment
resolution, but we will have one rollcall vote on the Omnibus. There
will be a period of time of 30 minutes for debate prior to voting on
that bill, and there will be a rollcall vote tonight. That is the first
explanation.
I will turn to the Democratic leader to make it a little simpler than
that and to comment on what we have agreed to.
Mr. DASCHLE. Mr. President, I think the majority leader has described
the situation accurately, and I believe it is the best way in which to
resolve what has been a very understandable concern on the part of so
many Members on both sides of the aisle. I thank the distinguished
Senator from North Dakota for first flagging this question and the
issue and calling it to our attention, and all of those who have
offered ways in which we might resolve the problem tonight.
The solution has four parts. First, we will pass the continuing
resolution that will accommodate the time that will be required for us
to resolve this matter.
The second will be that we will pass the conference report and, as
the majority leader has noted, we will hold it at the desk.
The third is that we will pass a resolution that will allow the
correction in the conference report, an enrolling resolution. That will
be part of this process.
Fourth is that the House will take up the matter on Wednesday. We
will hold it at the desk until that matter has been resolved, and then
send it to the President once this work has been completed.
This is, by far, the safest and easiest and, in some ways, the most
confident way in which to address this question. I think, having
addressed it in these four parts, we can all be satisfied that we will
have accomplished what we set out to do, which is fix the error and
pass the legislation.
Many on our side may want to express themselves after we vote on it.
People have expressed concern about other parts of the bill and,
throughout the day, our colleagues have expressed themselves on the
conference report in ways outside of this particular problem. But I
think, procedurally, this is the right way to approach the matter.
I think, ultimately, it accommodates the concerns people have had on
both sides of the aisle. I hope we can reach agreement tonight to allow
this process to go forward.
Mr. KENNEDY. Will the majority leader yield for a question?
Mr. FRIST. Yes.
Mr. KENNEDY. What if the House doesn't act on it? What assurance do
we have? Does the majority leader have assurance that the House will
act on Wednesday?
Mr. FRIST. We expect them to act. They said they will act. This bill
will be held at the desk. If they don't act, this bill will not be sent
over. That is part of the unanimous consent request.
Mr. KENNEDY. So it is the understanding of the majority leader that
they will act on Wednesday. After that takes place, the ordinary
procedure will be followed in terms of the enrollment and sending it to
the President?
Mr. FRIST. That is correct.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from North Dakota is recognized.
Mr. CONRAD. Mr. President, I am relieved at what has been worked out
here, because this will prevent this provision from ever becoming law.
This provision never should become law. It would open up the
possibility and potential for abuse. I want to repeat for the record
that I have no doubt Senator Stevens would never have used this
provision for an untoward purpose. I feel the same way about Chairman
Young. The problem was this would have become the law of the land.
There will be future chairmen of the Appropriations Committee. I think
we all know enough about human nature that if there is potential for
abuse, abuse is likely to occur. This is a place where we could have
had very serious abuse, with the opening up of people's tax records and
the use of those records to punish people, or to help people, or to do
other nefarious things that should never be permitted in this country.
So I am relieved this will not ever become law.
Mr. FRIST. Mr. President, as the Democratic leader suggested, we
realize a number of people want to make further comments. The unanimous
consent request we will propound shortly will allow for 30 minutes of
debate. Other people have expressed an interest, after the vote, in
being able to offer their views, which we encourage. That way, we can
go ahead with our unanimous consent request after 30 minutes for
debate, to be equally divided, and proceed with a rollcall vote.
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