[Congressional Record Volume 150, Number 128 (Saturday, October 9, 2004)]
[Senate]
[Pages S10917-S10918]
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            INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE REORGANIZATION--Continued

  The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Talent). The question is on agreeing to 
the amendment No. 4027, as amended.
  The amendment (No. 4027), as amended, was agreed to.
  Mr. HATCH. I move to reconsider the vote, and I move to lay that 
motion on the table.
  The motion to lay on the table was agreed to.


                           Amendment No. 4015

  The PRESIDING OFFICER. There is 2 minutes equally divided prior to 
the vote on the Hutchison amendment.
  Mrs. HUTCHISON. Mr. President, my amendment keeps the intent of the 
Senate. It creates an intelligence subcommittee on Appropriations. It 
keeps 13 subcommittees on Appropriations, but it allows the 
Appropriations Committee to do the reorganization within those 
parameters.
  According to the Congressional Research Service, there has never been 
a subcommittee eliminated by the Senate without coming from a committee 
itself.
  This would set a precedent that could affect committees for years to 
come. It is not right, and there is no reason to have to do it on the 
Senate floor today. We must consult with the House so that our 
Appropriations Committees match. Appropriations are complicated

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enough. Having Appropriations Committees that are different in the 
House from the Senate is not a wise decision, and we don't have to do 
it today.
  I urge my colleagues to adopt my amendment which keeps the 
intelligence subcommittee, it keeps 13 subcommittees in Appropriations, 
and allows the Appropriations Committee to do its job in reorganizing 
around those parameters.
  Mr. REID. Mr. President, the 9/11 Commission is watching what we are 
doing. We have created an intelligence subcommittee on Appropriations. 
That was very difficult to do. But we did it. The consolidation of 
Defense appropriations and Military Construction makes sense. The 
subject matters are related, with the same players and same 
departments. It is military. It doesn't make sense to create an 
artificial divide different than this one.
  The Appropriations Committee as it stands has all kinds of authority 
to organize within itself.
  In short, we have done the work of the Senate. It is the right thing 
to do. It sets forth something that Governor Kean says makes sense.
  I hope we will defeat this amendment and keep intact what we already 
have.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. All time has expired. The question is on 
agreeing to the pending amendment. The yeas and nays have been ordered, 
and the clerk will call the roll.
  Mr. REID. Mr. President, does the Senator from Texas wish to have a 
rollcall vote?
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The yeas and nays have been ordered.
  Mrs. HUTCHISON. I am happy to vitiate the yeas and nays.
  Mr. REID. I ask unanimous consent that the yeas and nays be vitiated.
  Mr. BUNNING. Mr. President, a rollcall vote has been ordered. I don't 
think that is permitted.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. Since there was no response, the vote has not 
begun.
  Mr. REID. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the yeas and 
nays be vitiated and there be a voice vote.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection?
  The question is on agreeing to the pending amendment.
  Mr. REID. Mr. President, I ask for the yeas and nays.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there a sufficient second?
  At the moment, there is a not a sufficient second.
  Mr. REID. Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll.
  The assistant legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
  Mr. REID. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for 
the quorum call be rescinded.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
  Mr. REID. Mr. President, I ask for the yeas and nays.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there a sufficient second?
  There is a sufficient second.
  The question is on agreeing to the amendment, and the clerk will call 
the roll.
  The assistant legislative clerk called the roll.
  Mr. McCONNELL. I announce that the Senator from Colorado (Mr. 
Campbell), the Senator from Georgia (Mr. Chambliss), the Senator from 
Texas (Mr. Cornyn), the Senate from Idaho (Mr. Craig), The Senator from 
South Carolina (Mr. Graham), the Senator from Pennsylvania (Mr. 
Specter), and the Senator from New Hampshire (Mr. Sununu), are 
necessarily absent.
  I further announce that, if present and voting, the Senator from 
Texas (Mr. Cornyn), would vote ``yea.''.
  Mr. REID. I announce that the Senator from Indiana (Mr. Bayh), the 
Senator from California (Mrs. Boxer), the Senator from Louisiana (Mr. 
Breaux) the Senator from North Carolina (Mr. Edwards), the Senator from 
South Carolina (Mr. Hollings), the Senator from Massachusetts (Mr. 
Kerry), the Senator from Georgia (Mr. Miller), and the Senator from 
Maryland (Mr. Sarbanes), are necessarily absent.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. Are there any other Senators in the Chamber 
desiring to vote?
  The result was announced--yeas 44, nays 41, as follows:

                      [Rollcall Vote No. 207 Leg.]

                                YEAS--44

     Alexander
     Allard
     Allen
     Bennett
     Bond
     Brownback
     Bunning
     Burns
     Chafee
     Cochran
     Coleman
     Collins
     Crapo
     DeWine
     Dole
     Domenici
     Ensign
     Enzi
     Fitzgerald
     Frist
     Grassley
     Gregg
     Hagel
     Hatch
     Hutchison
     Inhofe
     Kyl
     Lott
     Lugar
     McCain
     McConnell
     Murkowski
     Nickles
     Roberts
     Santorum
     Sessions
     Shelby
     Smith
     Snowe
     Stevens
     Talent
     Thomas
     Voinovich
     Warner

                                NAYS--41

     Akaka
     Baucus
     Biden
     Bingaman
     Byrd
     Cantwell
     Carper
     Clinton
     Conrad
     Corzine
     Daschle
     Dayton
     Dodd
     Dorgan
     Durbin
     Feingold
     Feinstein
     Graham (FL)
     Harkin
     Inouye
     Jeffords
     Johnson
     Kennedy
     Kohl
     Landrieu
     Lautenberg
     Leahy
     Levin
     Lieberman
     Lincoln
     Mikulski
     Murray
     Nelson (FL)
     Nelson (NE)
     Pryor
     Reed
     Reid
     Rockefeller
     Schumer
     Stabenow
     Wyden

                             NOT VOTING--15

     Bayh
     Boxer
     Breaux
     Campbell
     Chambliss
     Cornyn
     Craig
     Edwards
     Graham (SC)
     Hollings
     Kerry
     Miller
     Sarbanes
     Specter
     Sununu
  The amendment (No. 4015), as amended, was agreed to.
  Mr. REID. Mr. President, I move to reconsider the vote.
  Mr. LEVIN. I move to lay that motion on the table.
  The motion to lay on the table was agreed to.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Nevada
  Mr. REID. Mr. President, I am wondering if Senators would give 
consideration to maybe not having the vote on cloture.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Kentucky.
  Mr. McCONNELL. Mr. President, we still have the technicals that are 
under consideration. We are essentially out of work for the moment 
until we get to the technicals.
  Mr. GREGG. Mr. President, I have a housekeeping matter.
  The Senator from New Hampshire.

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