[Congressional Record Volume 150, Number 119 (Tuesday, September 28, 2004)]
[Senate]
[Pages S9778-S9784]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]
NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE REFORM ACT OF 2004
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Under the previous order, the Senate will
resume consideration of S. 2845, which the clerk will report.
The legislative clerk read as follows:
A bill (S. 2845) to reform the intelligence community and
the intelligence and intelligence-related activities of the
U.S. Government, and for other purposes.
Pending:
McCain amendment No. 3702, to add title VII of S. 2774, 9/
11 Commission Report Implementation Act, related to
transportation security.
Wyden amendment No. 3704, to establish an Independent
National Security Classification Board in the executive
branch.
Collins amendment No. 3705, to provide for homeland
security grant coordination and simplification.
Amendment No. 3705
Ms. COLLINS. Mr. President, last evening, on behalf of myself,
Senator Carper, and Senator Lieberman, I offered an amendment to
rewrite the formula for the Homeland Security Grant Program. The
amendment we brought before the Senate was unanimously reported as a
separate bill by the Governmental Affairs Committee.
We should always keep in mind that should there be another terrorist
attack on our country, people will be calling 911; they will not be
calling the Washington, DC, area code. It is our first responders--our
firefighters, our police officers, our emergency medical personnel--who
are always on the scene first. We know that from the tragic attacks of
9/11, and, as Secretary Ridge has pointed out many times, homeland
security starts with the security of our hometowns. For this reason, we
have come together in a bipartisan way, representing large States and
small States, to draft the Homeland Security Grant Enhancement Act, and
we have offered it as an amendment to this bill. It would streamline
and strengthen the assistance we provide to our States, communities,
and first responders who protect our homeland.
The underlying Homeland Security Act contains virtually no guidance
on how the Department of Homeland Security is to assist State and local
governments with their homeland security needs. In fact, the 187-page
Homeland Security Act mentions the issue of grants to first responders
in but a single paragraph. The decisions on how Federal dollars should
be spent or how much money should be allocated to home were left to
another day when Congress enacted that important legislation, but it is
now time for Congress to finally address this critical issue.
We know that much of the burden for homeland security has fallen on
the shoulders of State and local officials across America, those who
are truly on the front lines. In crafting the amendment before us, the
Governmental Affairs Committee listened first and foremost to our first
responders. We held three hearings on this vital topic and negotiated
for 2 years to produce the amendment that Senator Carper, Senator
Lieberman, and I are offering. The bipartisan measure was approved by
the Governmental Affairs Committee by a 16-to-0 vote, and it currently
has 29 cosponsors, including the distinguished Presiding Officer.
There are several groups that are active with first responders who
are supporting our legislation. They include the National Governor's
Association, Advocates for EMS, National Council of State Legislators,
Council of State Governments, the National Association of Counties, the
National League of Cities, and the Fraternal Order of Police.
As you can see, Mr. President, our approach has widespread support.
It is supported by Senators from big States, such as Michigan and
Ohio--and I want to particularly commend the Senators from those States
for their hard work on this legislation--and small States, such as my
home State of Maine and the State of the Senator from Delaware.
The wide breadth of support demonstrates the balanced approach our
amendment takes to homeland security funding. It recognizes that
threat-based funding is a critical part of homeland security funding.
It does so by almost tripling the homeland security funding awarded
based on threat and risk. This has been a particular concern to Senator
Clinton, who has brought this issue before the Senate a couple of
times.
The amendment, however, also recognizes that first responders in each
and every State are on the front lines and have needs. Therefore, the
bill maintains a minimum allocation for each State.
The legislation will also improve the coordination and the
administration of homeland security funding by promoting one-stop
shopping for homeland security funding opportunities. It establishes a
clearinghouse to assist first responders and State and local
governments in accessing homeland security grant information and other
resources within the new department. This clearinghouse will help
improve access to information, coordinate technical assistance for
vulnerability and threat assessments, provide information regarding
homeland security best practices, and compile information regarding
homeland security equipment purchased with Federal funds.
Establishment of these improvements will mean first responders can
spend more time training to save lives and less time filling out
unnecessary paperwork.
This amendment will establish a fair and balanced approach to
allocating this critical funding. I am very pleased to have worked with
the Senator from Delaware on this and I yield to him for any comments
he might have, unless, of course, the ranking member would like to
speak first.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Connecticut.
Mr. LIEBERMAN. Mr. President, I appreciate the recognition. Senator
Collins and I have to go a short walk to a meeting, so I take this
opportunity and use it briefly to rise in support of the Collins-Carper
amendment submitted by the chairman of the committee and the
distinguished Senator from Delaware, who worked very hard on this very
important topic and area before the 9/11 Commission Report was assigned
to the Governmental Affairs Committee.
This is an important addition to the National Intelligence Reform
Act, the underlying proposal that came out of our committee last week,
because it would help ensure that in these dangerous times the needs of
our States and local first responders are met in a reasonable and
coordinated way.
In the past 3 years since September 11, beginning on September 11,
our first responders and preventers have made real progress in boosting
America's preparedness to deal with the threat of terrorism. But as an
independent task force of the Council on Foreign Relations found last
year: the United States has not reached a sufficient national level of
emergency preparedness and remains dangerously unprepared to handle
catastrophic attack on American soil--dangerously unprepared. That I
take to refer particularly not to the law enforcers, who are the first
preventers, but to the capacity of our total response system at the
local and State level to respond to a catastrophic attack.
This amendment, unanimously approved by a total nonpartisan vote in
our committee, is an important first step in ensuring that our local
first responders get the resources they need.
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First, this amendment simplifies the existing homeland security grant
process by creating an interagency committee to coordinate Federal
requirements for homeland security planning and reporting, and it
eliminates redundancies. It would establish a clearinghouse to offer
local communities one-stop shopping for information on available
Federal grants.
Second and most important, this amendment would reform the way
homeland security grant money is currently distributed.
In crafting these funding provisions, the committee acted consistent
with the recommendation of the 9/11 Commission to significantly
increase the amount of homeland security funding distributed based on
threats but, the judgment we reached, not to eliminate a minimum amount
to go to every State. The reason for that is unfortunately the reality
of the terrorist threat and the nature of our terrorist enemies. Yes,
they have shown they will strike at visible national symbols, that to
some extent they will focus on big cities, but the fact is that anyone
who pays attention to the terrorist mode of operating around the world
will see what they also do is to strike at unpredictable, undefended,
vulnerable targets.
Remember, these people do not hold themselves to any rules of
civilized or humane behavior, so they have no hesitancy to put a bomb
on a bus occupied by families, men, women, children; to attack a school
and wantonly slaughter children, in some cases their teachers. In a
reality such as this, gruesome and chilling as it is, the fact is every
part of America needs some help from the Federal Government in getting
itself prepared to prevent and respond, and that is exactly what this
amendment would do.
I continue to believe that this part of our own domestic army of
preventers and responders in the war on terrorism is not adequately
funded. This amendment does not of itself change that, but it does
represent a sensible bipartisan approach and goes a long way to
ensuring that whatever funding we do provide--and I hope that number
will increase--is allocated in a manner that is best designed to
protect all of the American people.
I thank Senator Collins and Senator Carper for the extraordinary work
they did on this issue in our committee. Senator Carper, characteristic
of himself, took hold of a complicated problem with difficult political
ramifications to it but a real critical national need attached to it
and worked very hard to bring about this result, which I feel very
strongly deserves the overwhelming support of Members of the Senate.
I thank the chair, and I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Maine.
Ms. COLLINS. Mr. President, before the Senator from Delaware makes
his comments, I ask unanimous consent that the Senator from Minnesota,
Mr. Coleman, be added as a cosponsor to the underlying bill, S. 2845,
and that he also be added as a cosponsor to the pending amendment.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Ms. COLLINS. Mr. President, the Senator from Minnesota has been one
of our most diligent committee members in attending all of the hearings
we held throughout the August recess. He was an active member of the
committee throughout the debate on this legislation, and I am very
grateful to have his support and cosponsorship.
I say to the Senator from Connecticut that I think along with the
cosponsorships we picked up yesterday, this is a sign that as people
look at our legislation and learn more about it, it is gaining even
more support.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Delaware.
Mr. CARPER. Mr. President, before the chairman of our committee and
Senator Lieberman head for their meeting, I want to say in plain view
of everyone how proud I am of the leadership they have provided to our
committee. At a time when much of Washington, DC, was taking the month
of August off, they made sure that our committee did not. At a time
when most Senators were scattered around the world, the country, and
back in their own States, they made sure we were here, and not just for
any purpose but to participate in a series of excellent hearings.
I believe, and correct me if I am wrong, we have had a total of eight
hearings thus far in the last month on this subject, from all kinds of
people within the CIA, folks who have been National Security Advisers,
Secretaries of Defense, Secretaries of State, Secretaries of Homeland
Security. We have heard from the Commissioners themselves, the cochairs
of the Commission, and from their senior staff. It has been an
extraordinary education. It has taken me a while to get my arms around
these issues. As we finished our markup, I said to both Senator Collins
and Senator Lieberman that a lot had not been clear to me as we went
through the course of those hearings, but as we went through the course
of the markup a number of issues, questions that had not been in focus
for me, came into focus.
I thank you for providing this extraordinary month and a half for us
to prepare to offer this package to our colleagues in the Senate. You
have done really good work. We are proud of you.
Mr. LIEBERMAN. Thank you.
Ms. COLLINS. Will the Senator yield on that point?
Mr. CARPER. I am happy to yield.
Ms. COLLINS. I thank the Senator for his generous comments. I know
Senator Lieberman joins me in commending the Senator from Delaware for
his active participation in our hearings. I believe the Senator from
Delaware, as the Senator from Minnesota, made an extraordinary effort
to be there, to question the witnesses, and all of us now quote the
Senator from Delaware in various places and occasions, in reminding our
colleagues that:
The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.
Those words have become inexorably linked to the debate on
intelligence reform. We thank the Senator for that as well.
Mr. CARPER. Mr. President, the record should show those words should
not be directly attributed to me. They are actually the words of a
recently departed minister, Methodist minister from our State, Brooks
Reynolds, who would have been 89 years old on election day. He used to
give the opening prayer at the Delaware General Assembly. We would
convene every January. Among the things he would say to all of us who
would gather there in Dover in the legislative hall:
The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.
With respect to the underlying legislation, we have done a good job
of doing that. What we have come up with is legislation that I think is
well designed to ensure that key decisionmakers--be it the President or
the President's Cabinet, those of us who serve in the House and Senate,
those who serve in the intelligence communities themselves--that we
have the information we need to have, we have it in a timely way, and
that we have the information objectively. That will enable us to better
protect this country from terrorism in the 21st century. That is the
main thing, and I believe the legislation before us today really does
help us keep the main thing the main thing.
I wish to say a word or two, if I may today, about the amendment
Senator Collins and I have offered. It seeks to address the issue of
how to allocate funds to first responders, and to also enable the
system of distribution that we have to move forward with a little less
difficulty, a bit more smoothly, and maybe somewhat more efficiently.
First, I wish to say how much I have enjoyed working with Senator
Collins. We have worked on it well over a year, and to express thanks
to my staff and especially to John Kilvington on my staff for the great
work he has done with me and with Senator Collins's team.
What we seek to do with this amendment before us today, I say to my
colleagues, is to make a series of much needed reforms to the state of
the Homeland Security Grant Program. As many of my colleagues are
aware, funding under the State Homeland Security Grant Program today is
distributed somewhat arbitrarily. Much of the money that is made
available for grants each year is distributed on a per capita basis. It
is based on a formula that is actually included in the PATRIOT Act.
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Some have criticized our current homeland security grant formula
saying it shortchanges larger States such as New York that are at the
most risk for attack. I agree. No one here, though, disputes the fact
that States such as New York and California deserve the biggest share
of Federal funds.
But let me say clearly that funding should not be based on population
alone. This may come as a surprise to some of you from big States such
as Minnesota or Wyoming, but my home State of Delaware is not very big
but we still have major vulnerabilities. We have a significant port on
the Delaware River, the Port of Wilmington. Through that port, frankly,
more bananas come than any other port on the east coast--grapes,
Chilean fruit, and steel. Delaware has been known through its history
as the chemical capital of the world, home to major companies such as
DuPont and Hercules and others. We have a number of plants that dot the
landscape. Delaware is a financial center for our country, in downtown
Wilmington, DE.
A lot of people go through Delaware. If you do, you probably know I-
95 passes through Delaware, one of the busiest highways in the country.
Interstate 495 does as well. The Northeast corridor for Amtrak passes
through Delaware. Both freight railroads, CSX and Norfolk Southern, two
of the busiest railroads in America, pass through Delaware.
To our east, we have the Delaware River, a heavily trafficked river
with some cargo, including some hazardous cargo that goes through our
States, between our State and New Jersey on that river. On the other
side of the Delaware is New Jersey and there is a nuclear powerplant in
Summit, NJ. All of these factors tend to make our State a not
unattractive target for terrorists.
We need to make sure that whatever we do, we protect States such as
Delaware that may not be the most populous but do have real safety and
security concerns. I believe--I might be wrong, but I believe with this
amendment we have found a way to do that without shortchanging our
sister States around the country.
The 9/11 Commission rightly pointed out that the current grant
formula simply does not direct the Federal Government's scarce homeland
security resources to the States and localities that need it the most.
They called on Congress to create a new formula based on an assessment
of threats and vulnerabilities that take into account real risk factors
such as population density and the presence of critical infrastructure.
Our amendment does just that. The formula we have crafted ensures
that the majority of Federal first responders' aid each year goes to
the States most vulnerable to attack. In my judgment and the judgment
of my colleagues, our cosponsors, the formula is a fair one. It would
ensure that big States such as New York and California and smaller,
less populated States such as Delaware, or less populous States such as
Wyoming or Minnesota, receive our fair share of Federal homeland
security dollars.
Large States will do much better under this formula in the amendment
than they do under current law. This is especially true for States with
large, densely populated cities or those that are located along an
international border. It is my hope that this amendment will also
better account for needs in States such as Delaware that have small
populations but are located in risky parts of the country and have
other significant vulnerabilities.
In addition, our amendment gives the Secretary of Homeland Security
the authority to distribute a portion of each year's grant funding
directly to large cities such as New York or Washington, DC, where we
are gathered today, to help them meet their unique security needs.
We do all of this while preserving the small State minimum set out in
current law. This will ensure that small States such as ours will
continue to receive the resources they need, that we need, to protect
our citizens from potential terrorist attack.
In addition to these important formula changes which have been
alluded to by both Senator Collins and Senator Lieberman, our amendment
makes this Homeland Security Grant Program much more user friendly.
I don't know if our Presiding Officer or my colleague from Minnesota
talked to their Governors recently or their mayors. Senator Coleman was
once a mayor so he could be talking to himself on this one, I suppose.
But any of us talking to our Governors or mayors or first responders
over the last couple of years know how inefficient this program can be
and how frustrating it can be to deal with. Under the current system,
anyone seeking a grant is faced with, believe it or not, a 12-step
application process--12 steps. Once this process is complete, first
responders then have to sit around and wait, sometimes for months,
before they see that first dime.
Our amendment dramatically streamlines this process; shortening the
12-step application process to 2 steps, requiring that States pass
grant funds down to the local level within 60 days of receipt. Our
amendment also ensures that cities and local governments are involved
in their State's planning and application process. Our amendment also
includes an important provision giving States significant new
flexibility to use first responder aid they receive to meet their most
pressing security needs.
Under the current system, States are given funding in four
categories: No. 1, planning; No. 2, training; No. 3, they can use this
money for exercises, and, No. 4, for equipment purchases. The States
must spend a certain amount of money in each category, even if their
homeland security plan calls for a different spending plan.
We propose, on the other hand, to give States the ability to apply
for a waiver that would allow them to use unspent training money, for
example, to purchase needed equipment, if that is where their needs
were to lie or, frankly, the converse could be true.
Finally, our amendment creates a one-stop shop within the Department
of Homeland Security. That one-stop shop would enable applicants to
obtain grant information and other assistance. It also lays the
groundwork for future reforms by authorizing a major review of all
existing homeland security-related grant programs.
As part of this review, an interagency committee will look at
planning, will look at application and paperwork requirements in an
effort to ensure that the different programs are coordinated and do not
impose duplicative requirements on applicants. The committee would then
make recommendations for changes aimed not at eliminating programs but
at making sure all of those programs work together in a coordinated
fashion with as small an administrative burden on applicants as
possible.
In conclusion, this amendment is based on bipartisan legislation
reported out of the Governmental Affairs Committee unanimously this
past June. It is a product of more than a year of debate on that
committee about how we could better serve our first responders. The
amendment enjoys the support of Democrat and Republican Senators from
both large States and from small States, and when we have the
opportunity to vote on this amendment, I will certainly urge our
colleagues to vote for its adoption.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Minnesota.
Mr. COLEMAN. Mr. President, I want to congratulate my colleague, the
Senator from Delaware, for the outstanding work he has done on this
amendment and, in fact, as the Senator from Maine noted, his work
involved in the series of hearings that we had to allow us to come
before this body with a piece of legislation that will make America
safer.
If I may reflect first on the process of the underlying bill, we had
a series of I believe eight hearings. Sometimes folks say we move too
slow in these hallowed halls. There was a concern that in less than 2
months we would come before this body with a bill that provides major
restructuring of the way in which we handle the threat of terrorism in
this country, that some might say we moved too hastily. But one
wouldn't say that if they observed the process.
Within those eight hearings, we had a wellspring of information. We
heard from heads of the CIA in the 1970s, 1980s, and 1990s across party
lines. I think of that hearing. We talked about the ``three wise men''
who came before
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us. We heard from agents who were active in the field in hearings that
were not open to the public in which in fact the names of the agents
themselves were still kept confidential. We heard from members of the
Commission. We heard from representatives of the families of the
victims.
It was for me, relatively new in this body, who served as a mayor, as
the Presiding Officer has served as a mayor, and involved in politics
at what I call the bottom of the political food chain, a fascinating
educational experience. I learned a lot. I think my colleagues, no
matter how long they were in this body, learned a lot. We have all
learned a lot in the post-September 11, 2001 world.
As a result of what we heard, we come before this body with some
needed reform--reform that has broad bipartisan support. I believe the
process we used represents the best of what this body is all about,
working in a bipartisan way dealing with some difficult issues, issues
of life and death, truly life and death, coming to some conclusions,
and in the end making America a safer place.
I associate myself with the comments of my colleague from Delaware as
he talked about the process because I shared that experience.
I also want to talk about the underlying amendment, the Collins-
Lieberman-Carper amendment, again from the prospective of a former
locally elected official who appreciates one-stop shopping. When I was
dealing with licensing in the city of St. Paul, one of the things we
did was set up one-stop shopping so folks didn't have to go to 16
different places to fill out where the application was, what had to be
in it, who you had to talk to, and it made a difference. I talked with
our consumers. I know because I talked to them. When you are mayor and
go down the street, people will grab you by the elbow and tell you
about the experience. They appreciated it.
With a matter as complex, as serious, and as profound as dealing with
the issue of homeland security in a time when our Nation faces threats
of terrorism, we managed in this amendment to do a number of things
which I believe are very helpful. We simplified a process. We have
taken something that was a 12-step process and made it a 2-step
process.
We have accelerated the process requiring States to provide 80
percent for the homeland security resources they receive at the local
level within 60 days without moving the money forward. There are needs
out there. People deserve to know that the resources are there.
We provided flexibility, targeting the most vulnerable areas, and
also making sure that all parts of the country and all States have an
opportunity to do what needs to be done to provide a greater measure of
safety against the threat of terrorism.
Minnesota is a big State. Wyoming is a big State geographically, but
not a big State in population. Much of the area of Minnesota is rural.
Yet within the State of Minnesota, which is a big State but not a
highly-populated State, with about 5 million people, we have the Mall
of America, probably one of the most frequented tourist places in the
United States. Every year 35 million people visit the Mall of America.
We have, of course, the Mississippi River in Minnesota which starts
as a little stream right up there in Itasca and becomes the great
Mississippi of legend, of Mark Twain, and eventually finds its way to
Louisiana and into the gulf.
Along the Mississippi, we have a nuclear powerplant on an Indian
reservation, the Prairie Island Reservation right on the Mississippi
River in Minnesota. We have Duluth, which is located on Lake Superior,
which is the gateway to the Great Lakes and transatlantic shipping.
We have miles and miles of border between Minnesota and Canada, a
border that is not heavily populated, that is easily crossed, a border
which in certain conditions is pretty tough to police. It is pretty
tough up in International Falls where it is minus 28 or 30 degrees
Fahrenheit without wind chill. Border agents up there have to learn how
to pull a trigger on a pistol when it is very cold. It is not that
easy. They have to learn how to use snowmobiles and float planes, and
all sorts of things that may not be seen in other parts of the country.
But we face challenges. Obviously, we heard from Delaware, and the
Presiding Officer would be on the floor now talking about Wyoming. He
would talk about the challenges that are faced there.
This is an amendment that provides the targeting of resources in the
areas where clearly there is the greatest threat but provides the
needed flexibility so that places such as International Falls in
Minnesota or the Mall of America or a nuclear powerplant on the
Mississippi River can also be protected.
This is an amendment that is a product of the process I talked about.
It has bipartisan support. It has the support of Senators from large
States and small States. It is something I believe my colleagues will
and should overwhelmingly support.
I am honored to speak on behalf of this amendment and to urge its
adoption. In doing so, I truly believe it will make this country a
safer place and it will make it easier and make it quicker. It will
make it much more practical for folks throughout this country to access
the funds they need to provide a greater measure of protection against
the threat of terrorism.
Mr. President, I yield the floor.
Mr. CARPER. Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll.
The legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
Mr. COLEMAN. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order
for the quorum call be rescinded.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. COLEMAN. Mr. President, I would like to address two provisions in
the underlying bill that were the subject of much debate, much
discussion during our hearings on the 9/11 Commission recommendations.
One of them had to do with the recommendation as to whether the
national intelligence director should serve at the pleasure of the
President or should serve a fixed term.
The 9/11 Commission recommended that the national intelligence
director serve at the pleasure of the President. Some observers,
however, have suggested that making the NID serve a fixed term would
help preserve the independence of the national intelligence director.
The Collins-Lieberman bill creates a NID who will be appointed by the
President, confirmed by the Senate, and who will serve at the pleasure
of the President. This is one of those discussions where the words of
the Senator from Delaware ring true: the importance of making sure we
keep the main thing the main thing.
We had come before us, as I indicated earlier, three former Directors
of the Central Intelligence Agency: William Webster, James Woolsey, and
Stansfield Turner. Each of them testified that among all the powers of
the NID and the variables we needed to consider when deciding whether
to create a national intelligence director, the most important quality,
the most important variable for the national intelligence director to
be effective is to have the support of the President of the United
States.
The national intelligence director will be responsible for overseeing
a broad range of intelligence functions and operations in this country.
His ability to provide that kind of leadership and direction in many
ways will be contingent upon having the support of the Commander in
Chief, having the support of the President of the United States.
Robert Mueller, who served a 10-year term as FBI Director, testified
that the NID should serve at the pleasure of the President. Director
Mueller distinguished the FBI, which is expected to be an independent
investigative agency, from the office of the NID, which will be
responsible for advising the President on intelligence matters, and
that advice will be shaping the President's policy decisions. Among the
responsibilities of the NID is to be the principal adviser to the
President himself.
Some believe that having the NID serve a fixed term could help
insulate the national intelligence director from political pressure.
However, what it would do is to insulate the national intelligence
director from the President. We cannot afford, in these difficult and
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challenging times, at a time when America is under the threat of
terrorist attack, to have the national intelligence director
marginalized by a President who does not trust the national
intelligence director.
The national intelligence director will be one of the most powerful
individuals in the U.S. Government, and he will be one of the
President's closest advisers. As such, the President has to be able to
select his own national intelligence director. And all those in the
intelligence operations, all those in other branches of Government
who are involved in intelligence gathering, intelligence processing,
and intelligence formulation of operation need to understand that the
national intelligence director has the absolute confidence of the
President of the United States.
There are a number of alternative mechanisms to protect the
objectivity and the independence of the national intelligence director.
But, again, I think it is critically important that the national
intelligence director have the support of the President. And those
thoughts are not just the thoughts of this Senator, but they were the
expressed opinions of three former Directors of the Central
Intelligence Agency who came before our committee and the opinion of
the current head of the FBI who himself has a 10-year term.
One of the other issues that was the subject of a great deal of
discussion and focus was what type of authority the national
intelligence director should have to develop and execute the budget for
national intelligence. It was said many times, whoever controls the
money has the power.
We have made a judgment in this bill to have a strong national
intelligence director, a national intelligence director who has the
confidence of the President of the United States, but also a national
intelligence director who will have control over the development of the
budget for the national intelligence program, including the authority
to coordinate, prepare, direct, and present to the President the annual
budget for the national intelligence program.
This bill gives the NID the authority to manage and oversee the
execution of the national intelligence program, including visibility
and control over how money is spent. It ensures that the core national
intelligence agencies--the CIA, NSA, NGA, NRO, FBI Office of
Intelligence, and the Department of Homeland Security Directorate of
Information Analysis and Infrastructure Protection--are entirely within
the budgetary authority of the national intelligence director. And it
gives the national intelligence director influence over the budgets of
intelligence-related activities and organizations that are outside the
national intelligence director.
Our approach is consistent with the recommendations of the 9/11
Commission, which said the NID must be given--and I quote--``control
over the purse strings,'' including the power to submit a unified
budget for national intelligence, to receive the appropriation for
national intelligence, and to apportion the funds to the appropriate
agencies in line with the budget.
The Commission viewed these budget authorities as absolutely
essential to achieve the objectives of intelligence reform. One of the
chairs of the Commission, Mr. Hamilton, said:
We would not create the national intelligence director if
he or she did not have strong budget authority.
Former Directors of the Central Intelligence Agency who testified
before our committee also supported giving the national intelligence
director strong budget authority.
William Webster, who was both head of the CIA and the FBI, said:
Control of the budget is essential to effective management
of the intelligence community.
James Woolsey, former Director of the CIA, said:
If budget execution authority is given to the [national
intelligence director], he will or she will have a much
better ability to say to the Secretary of State or the
Secretary of Defense, ``Look, I sympathize. I understand. I
know this fluent Arabic linguist is a very rare asset, but
you did not hear me. I really need her or him.''
Again, who controls the money has the power.
As Chairman Hamilton said: The Commission would not have created a
national intelligence director if he or she did not have strong budget
authority.
Senior officials in the Office of the Director of Central
Intelligence also believe that stronger budget authority is needed in
order for the national intelligence director to truly be in charge of
the intelligence community.
John McLaughlin said the person responsible for the intelligence
community should ``have full authority to determine, reprogram and
execute all funding for the core national intelligence agencies,
principally CIA, NSA, the NGA and NRO.''
On and on, the advice the committee received was very clear: If you
want to have a strong national intelligence director, you must give him
or her strong budget authority.
Consumers of intelligence also testified that it would be desirable
for the national intelligence director to have strong budget authority.
Secretary of State Colin Powell, at the hearing of our committee on
September 13, 2004, said:
The [Director of Central Intelligence] was there before,
but the DCI did not have the kind of authority [needed]. And
in this town, it's budget authority that counts. Can you move
money? Can you set standards for people. So you have access
to the President? The [national intelligence director] will
have all of that, and so I think this is a far more powerful
player. And that will help the State Department.
Some of those who have brought a different perspective have said that
the Director of Central Intelligence already has the needed authority
but simply has failed to use it, and that if budget execution authority
is needed, it should be given to the national intelligence director by
Executive order.
With respect to the NFIP budget, the testimony before our committee--
much of it in closed session--demonstrated that the Director of Central
Intelligence authorities in practice are considerably weaker than they
might appear on paper. So what we heard was how things work in the real
world. What we heard was the day-to-day reality of how authority can be
used, how it can be challenged. If it is not crystal clear, if it is
not absolutely clear, if it is not unequivocal, as laid out in this
bill, then, in fact, it may not in practice be as strong as one would
desire.
The testimony also demonstrated considerable confusion about the
actual extent of the Director of Central Intelligence legal authority
which I found to be quite interesting. We would have before us various
members of the intelligence community, and there would actually be a
cross-discussion going on as to whether there was, in fact, this
authority that one person believed was there but that the other person
didn't believe was there. What we do in this bill is to get rid of the
confusion and make it clear. We clarify any ambiguity in the existing
language and make unmistakably clear Congress's intent that the
national intelligence director, not the Department heads, will have the
final say in developing the national intelligence budget.
With respect to receiving the appropriation and budget execution, the
Director of Central Intelligence clearly does not have these key
authorities today. Neither the administration nor we believe these
authorities could be given to the Director of Central Intelligence,
much less the national intelligence director, which has not yet been
created by Congress, without congressional action.
There is simply no excuse for Congress not to act. This bill provides
the kind of action that was clearly laid out before our committee as
needed, as supported by those both in the intelligence network and the
system, those who are making the decisions and those who are working
with the decisions that are being made.
I do hope this body supports the recommendation of the Commission,
the recommendation that is part of the bill before us.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that at 2:15, the Senate
proceed to a vote in relation to the McCain amendment No. 3702, with no
second degrees in order to the amendment prior to the vote; provided
further that there be 2 minutes of debate equally divided prior to the
vote. Finally, I ask consent that following the vote, Senator Stevens
be recognized in order to make a statement.
Mr. REID. Mr. President, would the Chair indicate, there are still
two additional amendments that are pending?
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The PRESIDING OFFICER. Under the Senator's request, there is just one
amendment.
Mr. REID. I understand the unanimous consent request talks about one
amendment, but if we dispose of that amendment, there would still be
two amendments pending.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator is correct.
Mr. REID. I would hope that following Senator Stevens's statement, we
could make arrangements to vote on those two as early as possible this
afternoon and move on to other matters on this bill. All of these
matters have been debated thoroughly. I would hope that after that, the
majority leader can arrange a time to vote on these amendments. We are
ready over here. No objection.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. COLEMAN. We will talk to the Members over the lunch hour and see
if we can work this out.
I suggest the absence of a quorum.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll.
The assistant legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
Mr. SCHUMER. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order
for the quorum call be rescinded.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Homeland Security
Mr. SCHUMER. Mr. President, I am here today on the eve of the debate
that will be occurring on Thursday evening. I know most Americans will
be watching. I think they are probably the most important debates,
certainly, since the Kennedy-Nixon debate, which was the first one.
The issue, of course, is related to the security of the country. I am
going to focus my few remarks on security here at home, in terms of
homeland security.
Whatever you think of the war on terror abroad--and there are many
different views and we will hear some of those on Thursday night--my
view--and I tend to be hawkish--is that hawks should be as angry or
more angry with the President than doves, because the bottom line is
that Iraq wasn't thought through. We don't have a plan and there is
nowhere really to go. The idea of keeping faith and saying, well, there
will be elections in January and that will make everything better, that
is similar to the idea that we will win the war in 3 weeks and that
will make everything better. It is simply not thought through and there
are all these chimerical sort of wishes and hopes.
First, the election will not be held in many parts of the country.
Second, I don't think it is going to make the basic problems go away. A
devastating commentary on the war in Iraq is that we have been unable
to spend money on infrastructure. One of the whole theories is that we
were going to rebuild the country and show the Iraqis a better life.
Because the terrorists who are there--who are despicable--have been
able to do so much in terms of sabotage and criminal activities, in
terms of taking those workers who would rebuild Iraq and treating them
so brutally, it has made it basically impossible to rebuild. The
President and his administration admitted as much when they took back
the money for rebuilding and are now putting it into security.
Again, what everyone thinks about the war overseas--and there are
many different views, and I believe John Kerry will enunciate a view
that is far more consonant with the American people than what President
Bush has done so far. I say that as somebody who supported the $87
billion and the vote to go to war, because I believe we need a strong,
aggressive foreign policy.
I believe the war on terror is the vital discussion of this decade
and of our generation, probably. To win the war on terror, you need a
good offense and a good defense. On defense, I regret to say,
basically, this administration has not come close to doing what is
necessary.
When you ask why, the bottom line is very simple: They don't want to
spend the money. Their idea after idea after idea about air security,
port security, rail security, truck security--we have the technology,
not to make certain a terrorist attack doesn't occur but certainly to
decrease the odds of it. When you go to the people in the agencies and
ask why are you not doing this or that, they say: We don't have the
money. When we come to the floor and argue about homeland security--as
we just did when the Appropriations bill on homeland security came
forward--we were told by my friend from Mississippi, the chairman, that
we are spending enough. Let me tell you, we are not spending close to
enough in any one of these areas.
Let's say, God willing, we manage to wipe out al-Qaida in the next
year or two, and let's say the problems in Iraq subside--in my view,
because Kerry will be elected and will handle them a lot better than
President Bush has--we are still going to have new terrorist threats.
Terrorism can be described in a single sentence, which is that the
very technology that has blessed our lives and accounted for so much of
the prosperity we have seen over the last two decades has an evil
underside; namely, that small groups of bad people can get ahold of
that technology and use it for terrible purposes. So if al-Qaida is
gone--and let's hope they will be--and if terrorism in Iraq greatly
declines--and let's hope that occurs--there are going to be new groups
that start using this terrorism and using it against us and trying to
use it in our homeland. It could be Chechnians; maybe they will have a
meeting and decide that instead of blowing up movie theaters and
airplanes in Moscow, the real answer is to go after the United States.
Maybe it will be East Timorese, who have been fighting for independence
in east Asia. For all we know, it could be skinheads in Montana who
decide to do this--a couple of them did it in Oklahoma City--but in a
more structured and destructive way, God forbid. So we cannot even keep
track of the various groups that could hurt us.
The sad fact is, if 500 random people around the world, with some
leadership, were injected with an evil virus and they were to decide,
fanatically, they would devote the next 5 years of their lives to
figuring out how to hurt America and try to implement it, the odds are
too high that they could succeed.
So do we need a good offense? Yes, we do. Do we need a good defense?
You bet. On area after area after area, we are not doing enough. Let me
catalog a few.
Air security, here we are doing something of a better job than we
have done in the past. The screeners, for all the problems they have,
are a lot better than they were before 9/11 when they were paid minimum
wage by private security companies. Some didn't speak English
adequately. We are inspecting cargo.
But probably the No. 1 way terrorists could now hurt us as we travel
in the air is by using shoulder-held missiles. We know the terrorists
have them, al-Qaida has them, and they are available on the black
market. We are slow walking any attempt to put on our commercial
airplanes the mechanism to deflect the rockets, the heat-seeking
rockets that emerge from shoulder-held missiles.
Mr. REID. Will the Senator yield?
Mr. SCHUMER. Yes.
Mr. REID. Is the Senator aware that on at least five different
occasions we have had votes on the Senate floor where we have asked for
increased funding for homeland security and the Bush people have turned
it down through various ways? I amplify that by saying these are all
set forth in Senator Byrd's best-selling book. Is the Senator aware we
tried to get money for real homeland security--not security in Iraq but
security for the American people--and this has been turned down; is he
aware of that?
Mr. SCHUMER. I am aware of it, and it frustrates me to no end.
Senator Byrd has had amendments, Senator Murray has had amendments,
Senator Corzine has had amendments, Senator Clinton and I have had
amendments, one after the other, and they are turned down.
I say to my colleague from Nevada, I have asked people in the
administration, both present and former--a few who quit in disgust--are
President Bush and his people not aware of the dangers? They basically
say, no, they are aware of the dangers, but they don't want to spend
any money here at home. They would rather have all the money go to tax
cuts, and so it is not that they do nothing in each of these
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areas; they do the bare minimum: Let's have a study and let it take 2
years. Let's decide on what to do down the road.
For every year we wait, we become more vulnerable.
Mr. REID. Being more specific, is the Senator aware we have tried to
address rail security and Amtrak security? Turned down. On several
occasions, port security, turned down. Is he aware we have tried to get
specific money to first responders? Turned down. The Senator is aware
of this and other measures--for example, hazardous chemicals security,
which Senator Corzine has pushed so much. The Senator is aware of each
of these, and we have had votes and have been turned down on the floor
by the majority on all requests.
Mr. SCHUMER. Mr. President, I am aware, to answer my good friend from
Nevada, of this. I am frustrated by it, and, frankly, I am befuddled by
it because an administration that is so aggressive when it comes to
taking the war overseas and will ask us for billions and billions more
at the drop of a hat----
The PRESIDING OFFICER. All time has expired.
Mr. SCHUMER. I thank the Presiding Officer.
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