[Congressional Record Volume 150, Number 75 (Wednesday, June 2, 2004)]
[House]
[Pages H3698-H3704]
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IRAQ WATCH
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under the Speaker's announced policy of
January 7, 2003, the gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. Delahunt) is
recognized for 60 minutes as the designee of the minority leader.
Mr. DELAHUNT. Mr. Speaker, we are here tonight, several of my
colleagues will be joining me for our weekly hour that we describe as
the Iraq Watch, which reviews issues of interest and concern to Members
on both sides of the aisle as well as the American people.
But before we begin talking about events of the past several weeks in
Iraq, Afghanistan, in the Middle East, I was conversing earlier with my
colleague from the State of Washington (Mr. McDermott) regarding some
of the statements given earlier on the floor by our colleagues and
friends from the Republican side of the aisle. And I want to commend
them and congratulate them for taking this issue of waste and fraud and
abuse seriously.
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I understand that they are describing themselves as waste watchers. I
can assure them that we will work together with them. We will cooperate
and we will collaborate. Because, as the gentleman who last spoke
indicated, it is absolutely essential that we use taxpayers' dollars
efficiently, honestly and bring the highest possible return on the
investment of those dollars in the American people.
In fact, I am really pleased that this is happening, and I dare say
if our Republican colleagues reach out to Democrats that we will join
with them and
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make this a bipartisan effort. I would simply note that it is late in
coming, however, because I think it is important to underscore who has
been running the government here for the past 4 years.
I am joined by my friend from Pennsylvania (Mr. Hoeffel); as I
indicated earlier, the gentleman from Washington (Mr. McDermott), my
colleague and friend; and, of course, the gentleman from Washington
(Mr. Inslee) and an original member of the Iraq Watch; and maybe I
could pose a question to him.
Is it the gentleman's understanding that President Bush, who is a
Republican, has served in that capacity for some 3\1/2\ years?
Mr. INSLEE. Mr. Speaker, would the gentleman yield?
Mr. DELAHUNT. I yield to the gentleman from Washington.
Mr. INSLEE. Mr. Speaker, that is one of the best rhetorical questions
the gentleman has ever posed and very successfully; and it is accurate
that the Senate and the House are now under the control of our friends,
the Republicans, for the last 2 years.
Mr. DELAHUNT. So is it true that the Republicans became a majority in
this particular branch back in 1994? I was not here in 1994. I think
the gentleman from Washington (Mr. McDermott) was here in 1994. But who
has been setting the agenda and running the House of Representatives
since January of 1995?
Mr. INSLEE. Let me answer that and quickly segue to tonight's
discussion. The presidency is under control of the Republican party,
the Senate is under control of the Republican party, the House is under
control of the Republican party, and if there is waste, fraud or abuse,
it is under the watch of the Republican party which controls the
government of the United States.
Our Republican friend speaking this evening talked about waste, fraud
and abuse. Let us cut to one of the most onerous, glaring, enormous,
stunningly scandalous waste, fraud and abuse that the Bush
administration, with Republican support, has supported, and that is
that they have given almost $40 million of taxpayer money to Mr.
Chalabi and his Iraqi National Congress who tonight stands accused of
giving away some of our most secret information to Iran.
This President, amongst the many mistakes that he has made,
squandered almost $40 million in waste, fraud and abuse, taking the
money from American taxpayers and giving it to this fellow that he told
us was going to be the ``Spartacus of Iraq.'' We were told by the Vice
President that we would be welcomed as liberators, with rose petals,
and that this administration believed with Richard Pearl and Dick
Cheney and the whole group of them and Paul Wolfowitz, we have heard
them described as the neo-cons. They are neo-cons, and they allowed Mr.
Chalabi to con this administration out of $40 million, and we have not
got a penny back.
Now, we 2 weeks ago, I think, tonight, held a meeting here on the
Iraq Watch, and we blew the whistle on Mr. Chalabi loud and clear.
Interestingly enough, the next morning, we were advised that the
administration had finally cut off this spigot of taxpayer money to Mr.
Chalabi. A week later, we find out that he is under investigation; and
they have now raided his offices to find out if, indeed, he did give
this secret information to Iran.
I just am encouraged, I suppose, that our Republican friends want to
root out waste, fraud and abuse. It would have been nice if they had
joined us in blowing the whistle on Mr. Chalabi months ago when we had
been saying that this whole plan was based on a house of sand.
Now the administration, just to make sure people understand what
happened here, Mr. Chalabi and his allies gave phony information about
weapons of mass destruction. The neo-cons in the White House and the
Defense Department bought it hook, line and sinker. They convinced the
President, who apparently did not need much convincing, that we would
just send Mr. Chalabi in there and he would be, as I said, the new
Spartacus of Iraq, the De Gaulle of Iraq.
So what did we do? We put him on the payroll of one of the biggest
welfare programs ever, to the tune of $40 million, and we flew him and
800 of his closest co-conspirators into Iraq about 4 days after the
invasion, 2 days after the collapse of the Iraqi Army, thinking he was
going to be our agent. It was a total scam, and the American taxpayers
paid for it, and he is the worst case of waste, fraud and abuse.
Mr. HOEFFEL. Mr. Speaker, would the gentleman yield?
Mr. DELAHUNT. I yield to the gentleman from Pennsylvania.
Mr. HOEFFEL. Mr. Speaker, is the gentleman from Washington (Mr.
Inslee) aware of how Mr. Chalabi allegedly got the information that he
allegedly shared with the Iranians?
Mr. INSLEE. Well, I know, but I would like the gentleman to
articulate that, actually.
Mr. HOEFFEL. It is my understanding that the fact that the Iranians
have an intelligence code in order for them to communicate secretly
amongst themselves, that that code was broken by America, and we were
able to know exactly what the Iranians were doing in Iraq with their
agents in Iraq, and that that is the information that Mr. Chalabi
allegedly gave to Iran, which is your code has been broken.
The question is, how did Chalabi know? Well, he is under
investigation and members of the Bush administration are being
investigated because somebody had to tell Chalabi that the Americans
have broken the Iranian code.
Mr. INSLEE. And Mr. Chalabi in the press reports said, well, somebody
in the agency of the United States government told me when they were
drunk, and this guy who had the President give $40 million to then
disclosed some of the most sensitive information possible, that we have
broken the Iranian code.
Mr. HOEFFEL. Do not forget that the President sat Mr. Chalabi right
behind Mrs. Bush in this year's State of the Union address, right up
there in that balcony 4\1/2\ months ago. There he sat in all his
double-chinned glory, Ahmad Chalabi, directly behind the First Lady of
the United States in the seat of honor 4\1/2\ months ago.
Mr. INSLEE. What is so disturbing about this, at least to me, is this
is almost a pattern of this administration blowing Top Secret security
information. They did it through Mr. Chalabi, although perhaps
unintentionally. They did it blowing the cover of a CIA agent in order
to punish Joe Wilson, the ambassador who blew the whistle on the
falsehood that the President gave in his State of the Union speech. Is
nothing sacred? Is nothing sacred in our security information? This
administration needs to be held to account.
Here we have a situation where the President of the United States
okayed $40 million of taxpayer money going to this scam artist who had
already been convicted of bank fraud in Jordan and could not set foot
back in his home country because of his previous conviction. We have a
situation where this information was found out to be totally false, all
of it. We started a war based on this false information.
And how many people have the President fired as a result of this
scandal, as a result of this failure? How many people has he let go?
How many heads have rolled in his administration to have accountability
for this Chalabi debacle? Zero. Zero. This President has shown zero
accountability throughout this entire mess, and the only people he has
fired are those who are the ones who have told the truth, General
Shinseki and Richard Clarke.
Mr. DELAHUNT. And Paul O'Neill.
Mr. INSLEE. Paul O'Neill. He punished Joe Wilson's wife.
Mr. DELAHUNT. Larry Lindsey, and the role of those who disagree, who
were independent thinkers, there is a lengthening list.
But I dare say that future generations could very well look back on
this particular moment in our history and Ahmad Chalabi would have a
very special status. Because, as the gentleman indicated, Mr. Chalabi
is very skillful, has a sordid history, if you will; was convicted of
embezzlement in the Nation of Jordan; was sentenced in Jordan, an
erstwhile ally of the United States when it comes to the war on terror
and an ally of the United States in an effort to resolve the Israeli-
Palestinian issue; was sentenced in a Jordanian court to some 22 years.
At a meeting that the gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Hoeffel) and
myself and others had with King
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Abdullah, I posed the question, was the king, our friend, our ally,
ever consulted before Mr. Chalabi was named to the now-defunct Iraqi
Governing Council? And his response was a terse no. I found that very
disturbing because he went on to say that we, meaning the Jordanians,
the Lebanese, have serious problems with Mr. Chalabi.
Well, I think what we are discovering is that we have serious
problems with Mr. Chalabi. Mr. Chalabi has become an embarrassment to
this administration.
The gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Hoeffel) indicated earlier that
he sat in the gallery to my left while the President delivered the
State of the Union address. He sat directly behind the First Lady.
Mr. Chalabi has a relationship with the President of the United
States. One only has to see, Mr. Speaker, this picture. It is my
understanding that the President, who is dressed casually here, on his
trip during Thanksgiving to visit the American servicemen there, and we
applaud him for that, is pictured here with Mr. Chalabi, Mr. Chalabi
who provided false intelligence, according to reports emanating from
the Department of State and from the CIA, which led this Nation into
war. It was defectors whom Mr. Chalabi brought to the administration's
attention which talked about weapons of mass destruction, which talked
about links with al Qaeda, which talked about links with Osama bin
Laden, all of which have been proven to be patently false.
It is very disturbing when we reflect and think that this false
information was utilized in the course of the debate on the resolution
authorizing war and was never questioned by the White House, by the
President, by Vice President Cheney, by Mr. Wolfowitz, by Mr. Douglas
Fife and by Mr. Pearl, who at that point in time served on the Defense
Policy Board. That information was simply accepted because they were,
in my opinion, looking for facts to support their desire to go to war
against Iraq.
And here we are. Today, a front page story in the New York Times
that, if this is true, this will represent, in my opinion, a scandal
that will rock this Nation.
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Not only, Mr. Speaker, were we given false information and false
intelligence, but now we read in The New York Times that Mr. Chalabi,
and let me quote for a moment before I defer to my colleagues: ``The
Iraqi leader and former ally of the Bush administration disclosed to an
Iranian official that the United States had broken the secret
communications code of Iran's intelligence service, betraying one of
Washington's most valuable sources of information about Iran, according
to United States intelligence officials. They said about 6 weeks ago,
Mr. Chalabi told a Baghdad station chief of Iran's Ministry of
Intelligence and Security that the United States was reading the
communications traffic of the Iranian spy service, one of the most
sophisticated in the Middle East.''
If that be true, we have been betrayed. It was this President, George
W. Bush, standing beside Mr. Chalabi in this very House during the
course of a State of the Union address, who used that term ``axis of
evil'' when he spoke of Iraq, when he spoke of North Korea, and when he
spoke of Iran as being three members of that axis of evil. And here we
have, according to The New York Times, and Mr. Chalabi has to be given
an opportunity to respond, like the administration has to be given an
opportunity to respond, to this absolutely outrageous potential alleged
act of treason against the American people. It cannot stand.
Mr. INSLEE. And, Mr. Speaker, if my colleague will yield, another
thing that cannot stand is this administration essentially sort of
pooh-poohing the enormity of this disaster of relying on Mr. Chalabi.
There are two groups that have suggested it is of no consequence, one
of which is Mr. Chalabi. He was interviewed in a major newspaper
sometime ago and the article said ``an Iraqi leader accused of feeding
faulty pre-war intelligence to Washington,'' and that is Mr. Chalabi,
``said yesterday his information about Saddam Hussein's weapons, even
if discredited,'' meaning wrong, meaning false, ``had achieved the aim
of persuading America to start a war.''
Mr. Chalabi has just kind of laughed off the fact that his false
information caused America to start a war in which over 700 Americans
have died. To him, that is okay because he described himself as a
``hero in error.'' Hero in error? Here is a man who took $40 million of
taxpayers' money, gave us apparently willfully, according to Colin
Powell, Colin Powell says willfully deceptive information, and started
a war in which 700 Americans have died, in which thousands have been
terribly wounded; and he describes himself as a hero. Well, he is no
kind of hero in this Chamber or in my district or any district in this
country.
But he, apparently, is still on some kind of a little bit of a
working relationship with the Bush administration. How do I know that?
Well, we have paid the man $40 million, and I have not heard the
President of the United States say ``give the taxpayers that money
back.'' I have not heard the President of the United States say, ``Mr.
Ashcroft, go get that $40 million back; this man started a war, gave me
false information.'' Still, with apparently now, or maybe people around
him cooperating with the Iranians and breaking our security
information, I have not heard the President say to go get that $40
million back.
What I have heard the President say, and what this administration has
done, although the President says it was not with his approval, but he
said, and there is a certain irony here, in the speech where the
President of the United States had Mr. Chalabi sitting up in back of
the First Lady, up there in the second row, at that very same speech
where the President gave the American people the falsehood that Iraq
was buying uranium from an African country, we now find out that was
false. And we know it is false, because Ambassador Joe Wilson, who
worked for the first President Bush, blew the whistle on that falsehood
and indicated that that was not true. And what was the response of the
administration? They blew the CIA cover of Joe Wilson's wife in an
attempt to destroy her career with the CIA.
So here you have a situation where this administration has squandered
$40 million of taxpayers' money and has not lifted a finger to get it
back, even though that created a fraud which started a war, which
destroyed the career of the person who told the truth about the
falsehood that Mr. Chalabi got the President to tell the American
people.
This is kind of an Alice in Wonderland moment, it seems to me, where
the truth-tellers are punished, and the President still says go ahead
and keep your money, I guess, that we gave to Mr. Chalabi. Something is
wrong with this picture.
This administration has failed to come to grips with the multiple
mistakes it has made in Iraq. And until it faces the music and admits
the multiple mistakes it has made, we will continue to make them.
Mr. HOEFFEL. Mr. Speaker, I admire the fervor that my colleague from
Washington has for pointing out the truth about the failings of
Chalabi; but the point he just made is a lot more important, frankly,
than the fun we are having piling on a guy like Chalabi, who is clearly
a fraud, clearly a spinmeister, the kind of guy that my grandfather
would have called a floor flusher. To meet Chalabi, as I did once, is
to understand that the guy is just full of hot air.
But the question that my colleague poses to us tonight and to the
Congress is, why did other people in the administrations not figure
this out? And why are those who made mistakes not being held
accountable for those mistakes? Because it would be a great injustice
if we were to allow anybody watching tonight to get the impression that
the problems of our policies in Iraq were solely the fault of Chalabi
giving us bad information. He did give us bad information; and I
believe, as Colin Powell believes, that it was willfully done, and he
ripped us off for $40 million. And the passion of the gentleman from
Washington on the subject is admirable, but the fact of the matter is,
why did so many people in the administration believe what Chalabi had
to say?
It seems to me that he was telling them what they wanted to hear, and
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they did not listen to his information and apply a critical eye to it.
I know that the CIA has been skeptical of Chalabi for years. I know the
State Department has been skeptical of Chalabi for years. But the
civilian leadership of the Pentagon, Mr. Rumsfeld, Mr. Wolfowitz, Mr.
Feith, along with the support of the Vice President, Mr. Cheney, bought
Chalabi's lies hook, line, and sinker. It is because he was telling
them, in my judgment, what they wanted to hear.
They honestly believed that we would be treated as liberators and not
occupiers, and they made one policy mistake after another that has led
us to where we are today after a year.
Mr. DELAHUNT. Mr. Speaker, if my colleague will yield to me, does
this not just come down to basic incompetence?
Mr. HOEFFEL. Oh, it absolutely does.
Mr. DELAHUNT. I mean, no one is questioning or raising at this point
in time malice or inappropriate intentions on the part of those
policymakers, but it is almost beyond comprehension to believe that
they would have fallen for the likes of Ahmad Chalabi.
I mean, in a recent Newsweek magazine, the May 31 edition, it says it
all: ``Bad intel and broken trust. Ahmad Chalabi and the road to war.
Our con man in Iraq.'' We were being conned, if you accept the validity
of these allegations made by intelligence officers.
Mr. HOEFFEL. But, Mr. Speaker, I must tell my colleague that not
everybody was being conned. The CIA saw through Chalabi, the State
Department saw through Chalabi, and yet the civilian leadership of the
Pentagon did not.
Mr. DELAHUNT. Exactly. And that is pointed out in this edition of
Newsweek. Again, let me quote: ``Chalabi has not always charmed his
patrons. His first run as a CIA asset in the early and mid-1990s was a
disaster. His case officer did not trust him. There was a lot of hanky
panky with the accounting. Triple billing, things that were not
mentioned, things inflated. It was a nightmare, says a former U.S.
intelligence official who worked with Chalabi.'' His quote. ``His
primary focus was to drag us into a war that President Clinton did not
want. But he had more luck with a group of Republican hard-liners who
formed a kind of government in exile, the so-called neoconservatives
like Wolfowitz and Richard Perle and Doug Feith.''
As I said earlier, when we pause and think that we went to war in
part because of information given by this individual standing with the
President of the United States, and that we have lost how many men and
women? The costs have exceeded already $200 billion, put aside the
blood and the pain and the anguish that Americans serving in Iraq and
their families have had to experience. This is outrageous.
And now we find on the front page of The New York Times, Mr. Speaker,
a story claiming that he provided the most highly sensitive information
to Iran, which, according to reports, is developing a nuclear weapons
program, is being accused by the President of the United States as
being a member of an axis of evil. What is happening? This is
incompetence. These people are not running or managing this issue
except in the most incompetent way. They are blinded by ideology.
Mr. INSLEE. If the gentleman would yield, I want to address why and
how that happened. This incompetence, as the gentleman describes it,
Mr. Speaker, was institutionalized. It was set up to be incompetent.
What happened here was the CIA had good reason not to trust the
information they were getting from Mr. Chalabi, and they kept telling
the White House that. But the people in this administration, if they
have a belief, it must be right, and it really does not matter what the
evidence is. So what they did was, Mr. Rumsfeld set up his own
intelligence agency, heretofore never in existence in the Pentagon; and
it was their special little intelligence shop which they staffed with
the people who worked for the neocons, who were basically going to tell
the neocons whatever they wanted to hear.
So when the CIA was telling them and the Air Force, for instance when
the Air Force told them these aluminum tubes the President told us
about were used to build a nuclear weapon, I think it was the Air Force
told him, or the CIA, one of the agencies, I have forgotten which one
now, they said that is not accurate. So they just went to the little
Pentagon fiefdom of the neocons and said, sure it is. They got their
yes men and made their yes men in control of America's foreign policy,
and this has led to the loss of 700 American lives as a result.
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Now what has this President done to bring accountability to that
system? Has he changed the director of this Pentagon intelligence
agency? No. Has he disbanded it? No. Has he taken away the washroom
privileges of anyone in the Pentagon? No. Has he canned the Secretary
of State? No. Has he changed the Director of the CIA? No.
The only thing he has done or his administration has done is to break
the security secrecy of the identity of a CIA agent in order to punish
the one man who told the truth about the falsehoods that the President
gave the American people. That is the only person that has lost their
job associated with this, except General Shinseki who also told the
truth about needing several hundred thousand American troops to provide
security in Iraq.
We are seeing that the first step to a successful Iraq policy is to
admit the mistakes of the past, clean house and get some new, fresh
ideas in Iraq. Clinging to these folks and these agencies which have
been so wrong on Iraq so many times is not going to allow us to be
successful in Iraq, is not going to allow us to bring our troops home
in a reasonable period of time.
We are asking the President to finally demand some accountability;
and if this Chalabi scandal does not wake up the President to this
need, it is hard to imagine what will.
Mr. HOEFFEL. Mr. Speaker, it is not just that mistakes were made by
American policymakers, and it is not just that Chalabi gave us bad
information. The other part of the equation is that the ideologues in
the civilian leadership, in the Pentagon and in the White House
simplified, distorted, took information and twisted it in such a way as
to persuade the Congress and the American people that Saddam Hussein
had weapons of mass destruction and that we needed to invade to keep
that part of the world and this country safe from attack.
Let us not forget the fact that the intelligence information being
given to the White House in the fall of 2002, the Defense Intelligence
Agency report of September, 2002, the National Intelligence Estimate of
October, 2002, was not available to the three of us at that time when
we had to vote but was made available to us 6 or 7 months later. Those
intelligence reports given to the White House were replete with
uncertainty and caveats about the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
Now, they were wrong apparently to even think they might have been
there, although we do know Saddam Hussein had them in the 1980s. They
were wrong to conclude that he probably had them, but the reports were
saying we think he has these weapons of mass destruction. He probably
has them. We have been told he has them.
None of that uncertainty was passed on to the Congress in public
statements or private briefings that we all attended, or to the
American people in the fall of 2002 when we were asked to vote on the
war authority. We were told with complete certainty that Saddam Hussein
had weapons of mass destruction and we had to go get them.
In fact, the one member of the administration who had the most
credibility in my opinion, Colin Powell, repeated this didactic
approach, these statements with complete certainty, 4 or 5 months later
in February or March of 2003 when he spoke to the U.N. He identified
where the weapons were. He showed us pictures. He told us how much they
weighed. He has 500 pounds over here; he has such and such over there.
They talked about those two mobile chemical labs on flatbed trucks.
Colin Powell assured the United Nations and all of the world that these
things existed. They did not.
The intelligence they were basing these statements on was full of
uncertainties. They deceived us. They led us to war with deceptions,
and we have to hold them accountable for that. It is not just the
mistakes. It is not just Chalabi's lies. It is the fact that some in
the Bush administration were willing to twist that information, and
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goes to the President himself, to get us to go to war.
Mr. DELAHUNT. And look where we are now. The rest of the world does
not believe us. A recent poll was taken in Latin America among the
economic elite, not the poor, the disadvantaged, the down-trodden, if
you will. It was done in seven countries. In five countries, the
negative opinion of President Bush exceeded 90 percent. The average was
87 percent. This hurts us at many, many different levels.
Now we are faced with a scandal of a magnitude that I dare say we
have not seen since Watergate, where we paid somebody who was conning
us, that was betraying us to a potential adversary in Iran that the
President of the United States described as a member of the Axis of
Evil Club. Now we have the President of the United States today,
according to CBS, has sought the help of an outside lawyer to represent
him in the probe into who leaked the name of a CIA operative to a
newspaper columnist. Believing that Bush will be interviewed or asked
to testify before a grand jury, White House officials confirm that the
President has put a Washington attorney on hot stand-by, CBS reported
tonight.
The gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Strickland) is now joining us, our other
stalwart member of Iraq Watch.
What we have here is a growing morass, if you will, of
investigations, of embarrassment, of loss of prestige, of the erosion
of our moral authority in the world. And, most importantly, in addition
to costing the American taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars, we
are now putting our men and women who have performed so valiantly and
professionally in Iraq, we are putting our military at risk, we are
putting our national security at risk.
Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Strickland).
Mr. STRICKLAND. Mr. Speaker, first of all, I would like to apologize
for showing up late. I was detained, but I am glad you have been here
spreading the truth and letting the American people know the situation.
I am struck by the fact that right up there in the balcony during the
President's address to this great body with all of the Representatives
and Senators and the Supreme Court members and members of the
diplomatic corps present, that Mr. Chalabi, who now has been disgraced,
was seated right up there near the First Lady in an honored position as
a guest of the President right here in the Chamber of the House of
Representatives.
And we now know, sadly, that not only is he largely responsible for
much of the misinformation that was used to take us into this war, and
the gentleman is right, it is costing us from our national resources,
from our national treasury, but what eats at me is the fact that more
than 800 precious American lives have been lost in this war. We went
into this war based on bad information received from Mr. Chalabi, this
friend of the Vice President, a man who was getting hundreds of
thousands of dollars from this government while he was betraying us,
quite frankly, betraying us.
It hurts me to look up there at that seat in the balcony of this
Chamber and know that at one time he was seated up there and he
received the applause of this body as the guest of the President at the
same time he was deceiving us, taking our resources and ultimately
giving information to our enemies. This is a disaster. I think it is a
disgrace, and I hope it is thoroughly investigated and we get to the
bottom of those who are responsible.
It is about time that members of this administration took
responsibility for what they have done, took responsibility, and I look
forward to further discussion as the American people become
increasingly aware of what has happened.
Mr. DELAHUNT. Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gentleman from Washington
(Mr. Inslee).
Mr. INSLEE. Mr. Speaker, I think responsibility is the right word,
and I think what has been so stunning to us is the failure of the
President to hold people and agencies responsible for their multiple
foul-ups. This is not the way to run a railroad or a war, and other
Presidents in other difficult circumstances have had the gumption and
leadership to hold people accountable.
I had the honor of joining my dad, a World War II vet, at the
dedication of the World War II Memorial this weekend. We were very
proud of many people, including my father, at the dedication.
The memorial is a very moving place, and I encourage people to visit
it. It is a very moving place. They have 4,000 stars representing our
losses in World War II, and framing that wall of stars are two pillars,
both of which have quotes from President Harry Truman.
I was talking to my dad, and he reminded me that Harry Truman did
something. He held somebody who was very popular at the time
accountable. He fired General MacArthur. It was an extremely
controversial thing for the President to do. But he recognized in war
you have to have accountability and responsibility.
There is nobody in this administration as popular as General
MacArthur. I can guarantee the President that. And if President Bush
had half the gumption of President Truman, he would fire some of these
people tomorrow to send a message that we are not going to tolerate
this incompetence anymore, and we are going to send a message to the
world that we are going to be accountable to it as well.
Mr. DELAHUNT. Mr. Speaker, the gentleman has provoked a thought. What
we have here is the absolute converse of what occurred back in the
early 1950s. We have a professional military, a military that every
American supports and a military that has conducted itself with valor
and a military that all Americans can be proud of, but a civilian
leadership that is incompetent. If we are ever going to win the war on
terror, if we are going to defeat terrorism in this world, it is
absolutely essential, as the gentleman said, for a new team.
I was at a hearing today in the Committee on International Relations
which the gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Hoeffel) and I serve on. We
all remember, it was a unanimous vote in this Chamber to go into
Afghanistan and go after the real enemy, al Qaeda, the fundamental
Islamists, eliminate them and reduce the threat. We had the support of
the entire world. We had a genuine coalition.
Oftentimes, the French are castigated and denigrated on this floor,
but if Members remember, it was the French national paper Le Monde that
on September 12 said, ``Today we are all Americans,'' and now we have
gone in another direction.
Members all know who Robert Novak is, an extremely conservative
columnist, certainly not one who in most cases we would share the same
viewpoint on a variety of issues, but here are his comments in a column
he did recently. ``The handful of valiant American warriors fighting
the other war in Afghanistan is not a happy band of bothers. They are
undermanned and feel neglected, lack confidence in their generals, and
are disgusted by Afghan political leadership. The overlooked war
continues with no end in sight. Narcotics trafficking is at an all-time
high. If U.S. forces were to leave, the Taliban or something like it
would regain power. The U.S. is lost in Afghanistan, bound to this wild
country and unable to leave.''
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It is Special Services that is given the task of confronting armed
narcoterrorists on a day-to-day basis.
Mr. Speaker, we are losing; not just in Afghanistan, but we are
losing everywhere. This is a highly volatile, highly dangerous moment
in our national history.
Mr. HOEFFEL. Mr. Speaker, if the gentleman will yield further, let me
just add to the gentleman's wise comments.
We are at risk of losing in Iraq if we do not get security in that
country. We all share the President's goals of creating a stable and
peaceful Iraq with a representative self-government, hopefully a
flourishing democracy. We all share that goal. But we cannot achieve
that goal or any of the benchmarks without security. We cannot
reconstruct that country without security, we cannot have a meaningful
transfer of sovereignty on June 30 or any other day without security,
and we certainly cannot have elections there without security. So we
have not accomplished the fundamental task of this occupation.
The President keeps saying, well, we are going to turn things over
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and get out. Well, the military occupation is not ending, and it cannot
end because the country is not secure, and it is not able to secure
itself.
Mr. STRICKLAND. Mr. Speaker, if the gentleman will yield, part of the
problem is we took the advice of Chalabi. It was because of information
that he had given, apparently to the Vice President, that we decided we
could go into Iraq with less force than we actually needed to bring
stability to that country; and the result is well over 800 precious
American lives have been lost, and more are being lost every day; and
thousands of Americans have been terribly wounded and are being wounded
every day.
We are going to have this handover, and the President boasts that
that is a very large milestone in the history of this country. The fact
is, the American soldier is going to be there, the American soldier is
going to have a target on his or her back, and we are going to continue
to lose soldiers and to have soldiers wounded.
Now, the President tries to set this up as a two-choice dichotomy. He
says, stay the course, and those who question his policies want to cut
and run. I do not hear anyone saying they want to cut and run. But
neither do we want to stay the course, as the President has laid it
out. We want to change the course. We want to internationalize and
Iraqitize this situation. We want to give other countries some of the
responsibility, have them carry part of the burden.
The fact is that I am tired of slogans when it comes to this war. I
have talked to too many loved ones who have their sons or daughters or
husbands over there fighting this war. I met with a number of them just
yesterday, and they are terribly concerned, as they ought to be, and
they are wondering what is going on, how long will my loved one be
there, and are they being protected as much as possible while they are
there.
I would just remind my colleagues that we continue to have troops
over there driving around in un-armored Humvees. We finally convinced
the other side of the aisle that we needed to put more money into that
project, but soldiers are still being needlessly wounded, and, in some
tragic cases, losing their lives, in part because we are not giving
them the proper equipment.
Part of it is we were told there would be rose petals, they were
going to welcome us as liberators; and much of it was based on the
information that came from this Chalabi, a man who we now know was not
our friend, in fact, was giving information to our enemies.
That is the sad truth. We cannot run from that truth. The
administration needs to face up to the facts that they used bad
information, they made bad decisions, and, as a result, we find
ourselves in this quagmire; and we need to change course and move in a
different direction.
Mr. HOEFFEL. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman. I agree with the
gentleman that we have probably heard too many slogans and that slogans
do not really help resolve complicated problems. But I would say to the
gentleman that we need to get more troops in Iraq, preferably
international troops, so we can get security. That is essential. Then
we can get elections and get an Iraqi government freely elected in
charge so America can get out.
Mr. DELAHUNT. Mr. Speaker, reclaiming my time, if I can just for a
moment speak to the issue of America's standing in this world. I am
reminded of DeTouqueville when he came to this country, a Frenchman who
toured the original 13 States, and he made this observation. He spoke
of America's greatness, and he said America is great because America is
good.
The world has always looked towards the United States of America, not
just because of its military strength or its economic power, but
because of our moral authority. Americans through the generations have
earned that title, that title of ``American,'' because we are a moral
and a good and generous Nation.
But that perception of the United States is changing. We hear a lot
about oil and our motives in terms of why we went into Iraq.
I remember reading the book ``The Price of Loyalty'' that was done by
an author regarding the experiences of Paul O'Neill, former Secretary
of the Treasury. I would ask my friends on all sides of this particular
issue to take the time to go to page 96, because I have been asking
this question for months now, and I cannot get an answer. Maybe I am
simply frustrated.
But at a meeting of the National Security Council on February 27,
some 7 months before our national tragedy on September 11, this is
Secretary Paul O'Neill, a highly respected Republican who served in the
Reagan administration, who served under this President Bush's father,
let me just take an excerpt and read it to you:
``Beneath the surface was a battle O'Neill had seen brewing since the
National Security meeting on January 30, which was about a week after
the inauguration. There was Powell and the moderates at the State
Department versus hardliners like Rumsfeld, Cheney and Wolfowitz, who
were already planning the next war with Iraq and the shape of a post-
Saddam country. Documents were being prepared by the Defense
Intelligence Agency, Rumsfeld's intelligence arm, mapping Iraq's oil
fields and exploration areas and listing companies that might be
interested in leveraging the precious asset.
``This was occurring weeks after the inauguration. There was a
document entitled `Foreign Suitors for Iraqi Oil Field Contracts.' It
lists companies from 30 countries, including France, Germany, Russia
and the United Kingdom, their specialties, bidding histories, and, in
some cases, their particular areas of interest. An attached document
maps Iraq with markings for super-giant oil fields, other oil fields,
and earmarks for production sharing.''
So we wonder, we wonder why the perception of this great and generous
Nation is now being attacked, is now being questioned.
Recently there was a survey done by the Pew Foundation, and it was
particularly disturbing because many across the world doubt our motives
and believe that our real intent is to control Mideastern oil. In
Russia, 51 percent of that population believes that that was why we
invaded Iraq; in France, 58 percent; in Germany, 63 percent; in
Pakistan, 54 percent; in Turkey, 64 percent; in Morocco, 63 percent;
and in Jordan, 71 percent. This, I submit to my friends, is most
disturbing.
Then we have a report in Time magazine, all Americans by now are
aware that Dick Cheney, the Vice President of the United States, whom
in Bob Woodward's most recent book, ``The Plan of Attack,'' is
described as having a ``fervor for war.'' That was by Colin Powell.
Colin Powell said that, not one of us. It now appears that Time
magazine reports that an e-mail from the Army Corps of Engineers says
that ``Douglas Feith, an Undersecretary of Defense, approved
arrangements for the Halliburton contract, contingent on informing
White House tomorrow. We anticipate no issues, since action has been
coordinated with the Vice President's office.''
And we wonder why our bona fides and our motives are being
questioned? What happens now when the rest of the world reads that
information in a journal that is generally regarded with respect, that
represents American thinking?
Mr. INSLEE. If the gentleman will yield, I want to just kind of recap
some of the things we have talked about as to why we are so adamant
that this administration change and improve its policies in Iraq. We
have talked about some things tonight, but I want to talk about the 10
significant failures of this administration. I just want to recap them
quickly as to why we feel so strongly, why we have been here every
week. I want to list them quickly.
Failure number one: the President told us, ``Simply stated, there is
no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction.''
That and his other statements, many others, were false. Failure number
one.
Failure number two: they told us that they had clear and convincing
evidence of the connection between Saddam Hussein and the attack, the
heinous attack on us on September 11. Those statements were false.
Failure number two.
Failure number three: they told us we would be greeted as liberators,
with rose petals at our feet. Mr. Chalabi would be the Spartacus of
Iraq. That statement was false.
Failure number four: they ignored clear evidence and clear advice
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General Shinseki and many others that we would need several-fold the
number of troops that they gave to this effort in order to secure Iraq,
and they ignored this clear advice. Why? Because they wanted to fight
this war on the cheap so they would not have to pay for it. Well, we
have suffered from their effort to fight a war on the cheap with a lot
of dead good American people in Iraq.
Failure number five: they refused to involve the United Nations until
maybe 2 weeks ago, when they finally went back on their knees to the
U.N.
Failure number six: they refused to have elections.
Failure number seven: they had no command and control system on the
prisoner camps.
Failure number eight: no armor.
Failure number nine: no plan to pay for this war.
Failure number ten: they gave $40 million of taxpayer money to a con
man that got us into this war.
These are 10 failures, and they demand accountability from people in
this administration.
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