[Congressional Record Volume 150, Number 71 (Wednesday, May 19, 2004)]
[House]
[Pages H3358-H3369]
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CONFERENCE REPORT ON S. CON. RES. 95, CONCURRENT RESOLUTION ON THE
BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2005
Mr. NUSSLE. Mr. Speaker, pursuant to House Resolution 649, I call up
the conference report on the Senate concurrent resolution (S. Con. Res.
95) setting forth the congressional budget for the United States
Government for fiscal year 2005 and including the appropriate budgetary
levels for fiscal years 2006 through 2009.
The Clerk read the title of the Senate concurrent resolution.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to House Resolution 649, the
conference report is considered as having been read.
(For conference report and statement, see proceedings of the House of
Tuesday, May 18, 2004.)
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Iowa (Mr. Nussle) and the
gentleman from South Carolina (Mr. Spratt) each will control 30
minutes.
The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Iowa (Mr. Nussle).
General Leave
Mr. NUSSLE. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that all Members may
have 5 legislative days within which to revise and extend their remarks
on S. Con. Res. 95.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the request of the
gentleman from Iowa?
There was no objection.
Mr. NUSSLE. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, first I would like to thank members of the Committee on
the Budget on both sides of the aisle that have worked throughout the
process this year. I wish to thank my ranking member and friend, the
gentleman from South Carolina (Mr. Spratt).
We will embark today on a vigorous debate. I have a feeling that we
will differ quite a lot on the policy and the issues before us faced in
the budget, but we do so in a cheerful manner, one that is with full
respect; and I have enormous respect for my very able friend and
colleague, the gentleman from South Carolina (Mr. Spratt).
I also want to thank our staff. Rich Meade and the entire Committee
on the Budget staff, they have worked very, very diligently on the
majority side; and Tom Kahn and the minority staff have also done that.
They prepare Members, not only on the committee but throughout our
conferences and caucuses, so we are prepared for this debate today and
throughout the year, and they deserve our support as we move forward
and our appreciation.
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As we started crafting the budget this year, there was certainly
really no lack of naysayers who said that getting a budget passed this
year would probably be next to impossible. There were way too many
challenges, people said, facing our country, too many conflicting
interests, too much pressure because of the upcoming elections.
All of those things are certainly true. It is true we are dealing
with a number of other challenging issues, such as the ongoing
conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq, and the war against terrorism in
general on a global basis.
But we will prevail as a Nation. Regardless of the debate that we
have today on budgets and taxes and pay-as-you-go and the national
debt, we will prevail as a Nation, because it is not about budgets in
the end. It is not about taxes in the end. It is about an American
spirit that will not die, because we believe in freedom, and that is
freedom that is given to us as a little seed planted in our hearts when
we are born and something that blossoms throughout our lives. We want
to share that with the world, and we believe that by sharing it with
the world, we will have a safer place in which to live.
I am also happy to report that we have prevailed, despite a myriad of
critics who said it could not be done, that we would not even get a
conference report agreement between the House and the Senate. We were
able to do that. So today in the House we will complete the first step
of what are some of our most fundamental duties.
I am extremely proud of this budget and what it stands for. I would
like to particularly thank our leadership, our Speaker, the gentleman
from Illinois (Mr. Hastert); our majority leader, the gentleman from
Texas (Mr. DeLay); our deputy whip, the gentleman from Virginia (Mr.
Cantor); and our whip, the gentleman from Missouri (Mr. Blunt); as well
as the gentlewoman from Ohio (Ms. Pryce). All of the leadership team
worked hard, standing our ground for the budget principles that we knew
must be done.
And what was that must-do list for this year's budget? Clearly, this
budget had to provide for the defense and homeland security of our
Nation. That is job one. There is no excuse not to complete the most
important job that this country requires of a Nation in order for it to
be free, and that is the defense of our country.
Second, this budget had to continue to support a program of economic
growth for our country, as well as continue our commitment to a host of
critical domestic programs, such as veterans benefits, education,
health care, and prescription drugs for seniors. And we had to do all
of this while reining in our spending and working to reduce the
deficits we incurred while responding to extraordinary circumstances
over the past few years.
Getting a consensus on what was exactly right or correct was not
easy. It has been very difficult. Every single person has their own
idea of what a perfect budget would look like. This is not a perfect
budget, and I dare say my friends on the other side will remind me of
that time and time again today; but it is what is doable at a time of
extreme circumstances in our Nation's history.
I have heard people say at time of war we ought to do this; at time
of economic challenge we ought to do that; we ought to fund priorities.
All of those are true. But we have never faced all of them at the exact
same time: to have a downturn in the economy, be faced with two wars, a
global response to terrorism, the most unbelievable tragic event of
terrorism facing our Nation. All of this happening at the exact same
time is something that has never happened to our Nation.
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So these are extraordinary circumstances and we will respond. Let me
tell you the guiding principles of this budget of how we are going to
respond.
First is strength. We are free as a Nation as long as we are able to
defend our freedom at home and abroad. And so the first principle is
strength.
Second is growth. We must continue to grow. Our policies are helping
to boost the economy. We do not want to grow government. We want to
grow the earning capacity of people. We want to grow the ability to
create jobs. We want to grow the entrepreneurial spirit in our country.
That is what we want to grow. And we have already seen, the last 6
months have been the fastest growth in 20 years as a result of the
policies put forward by our President and by this Congress. And we
believe that must continue.
Business investment is up. Unemployment is falling, and it is lower
now than it was on average for the 1970s, the 1980s or the 1990s. And
most important, we are seeing jobs being created.
More Americans are working today than at any time in American
history; 1.1 million jobs have been created over the last 8 months
alone. So to remain the most prosperous superpower, our economy must be
able to continue to grow.
Finally, opportunity. Strength, growth and, finally, opportunity.
America's continued greatness comes from the unlimited opportunities
that our American freedom provides. We are all for that. And we must
continue to encourage those opportunities for a better life for every
American citizen. Government certainly has a role in that.
Those were the guiding principles of our budget that we passed here
in the House, and they remain the guiding principles as we work through
this conference agreement.
I also want to talk to you about a few principles with regard to this
budget that were included in the final conference agreement. First,
there will be no tax increase. And let me be clear: If you vote ``yes''
on this budget, you are saying we do not need a tax increase. We do not
want an automatic tax increase to happen, and we do not believe that
this is a time for Americans to dig deeper in their pockets in order to
deal with challenges we should be facing here in Washington.
Tax increases should not be the solution. And so if you vote ``no''
on this budget, be aware you are voting to automatically allow tax
increases to occur this year.
That is what this budget will do. It will prevent an automatic tax
increase. So by voting against it, an automatic tax increase will
occur.
Second, on spending, our constituents have told us time and time
again that we have got to rein in spending. We have got to control the
waste, fraud and abuse in Washington. And certainly that is often in
the eye of the beholder; but we believe that it is time to go through
our departments, through our categories and look at ways to rein in
spending. We cannot begin to address reducing the budget deficit
without holding the current rate of spending growth.
This is what our spending growth has looked like in the past few
years, a lot of growth. Most of that from necessary demands, but we
cannot sustain that spending growth. So we have looked for ways to
control spending throughout the budget. This budget calls for holding
the line on nondefense, nonhomeland security discretionary spending.
For the first time, this Congress, certainly in my tenure here and I
daresay in the tenure of all Members of this body, this will be the
first opportunity for you to vote to freeze or hold the line on
nonsecurity spending in Congress.
Let us talk about the war. The President did not, when he submitted
his budget back in February, contemplate the true cost of war because
they were unknown at that time. Our budget has taken that into account.
We know, without question, that there will be costs for the ongoing
war and that this budget will have an effect as a result. Do we know
the exact amount? No. That is not known right now to the Congress, to
the Defense Department, to the President.
We can speculate, and we have put into this budget a placeholder that
says $50 billion, based on the estimate that we have for this year, is
an appropriate figure to begin planning for the 2005 costs of the war.
And thank goodness we did that, because right after we passed our
budget, we found out that at least $25 billion will be necessary to
fund the ongoing conflict during 2005. So it is not with precision that
we know this amount, but it is something we need to plan for in this,
and this budget accomplishes that.
This budget does all of this, if we follow it, to get us back to
balanced budgets and fiscal responsibility. We have to start somewhere.
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There will be people who come to the floor today who say, you know,
this is only a 1-year budget. Well, yeah, that is what we always pass.
Last year we passed a budget; it had a lot of years on it, but we only
followed it for a year. Then we renegotiated it this year. We will to
the same next year and the year after. In fact, every year I have been
here we have gone year to year to year with regard to taxes, spending,
rules, appropriations, all of the different issues that face us today.
And so we are coming forward to present to you today a 1-year budget.
It complies with the Budget Act. You will see 5 years' worth of
projections for the amounts of money, but this is a 1-year budget. And
we believe if we can get this right and if we can hold the House and
the other body and the President to this plan, it puts us on a path to
not only controlling the deficit, but getting us back to a balanced
budget.
This budget is the first step in accomplishing that but it only works
if we stick to it. This is our next major challenge, I daresay, to
begin to get past all of the excuses of the last few years, although
they are appropriate, certainly important rationale for how we have
gotten here.
But we need to move forward. This allows us to do that today. So we
need to vote ``yes'' in order to move this plan forward. But let me be
clear: If you vote no, as I said before, you vote for an automatic tax
increase, you vote to cut veterans' spending because we increased
veterans' spending here over the President's amount by $1.2 billion;
you are not supporting the troops to the tune of $50 billion
contemplating the war costs.
Sure, you can say we will vote for the appropriations bill, but this
plans for it in a budget. And I also suggest, you are not doing what
you need to do to plan for defense and homeland security of our Nation.
This puts us on a track to fiscal responsibility. It meet our needs
and the strengths of our country and growth for the economy and
opportunity for the future. And I ask my colleagues to support the
conference report.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. SPRATT. Mr. Speaker I yield myself 4\1/2\ minutes.
Mr. Speaker, my good friend, the gentleman from Iowa (Mr. Nussle) and
I work together well, and I have the greatest regard for him, but let
me put it the way it is. He is trying to put the best face on a bad
situation.
What we have got here is a new high for the budget deficit and a new
low for the budget process. For the first time in 20 years, for the
first time since the 1980s we have a budget that only goes out 1 year.
Ever since the Budget Act was adopted, the principle has been that you
will run out your numbers 5 years so that we can see the implications
of tax cuts and tax increases, spending cuts and spending increases,
spread over a reasonable period of time. Not in this budget: 1 year for
the first time in 20 years.
Now, what does that allow you to do? It allows you to dodge the
deficit. It keeps you from having to show on a multiyear basis how you
will get from a $300-$400 billion deficit to something that is half
that size to a respectable, sustainable number.
If you only take it out 1 year, there is no way in the world that we
will ever get our arms around the deficit in that period of time. So it
exonerates you from presenting any kind of process or plan to get where
we all know where we have got to go, and that is to a much lower
deficit.
Another thing: When you do not put real numbers in the outyears, in
2006, 2007, 2008, it allows you to reduce the President's request and
not acknowledge what you are actually doing. By our calculations, when
we look at the numbers that are on the chart contained in this budget
resolution, this budget resolution provides $122 billion less for
defense than the President requests or projects for himself over that
same period of time.
This much is clear: Vote for this and you are voting for a huge
deficit by the acknowledgment of the drastic $367 billion. And while
they have included $50 billion for supplemental spending in Iraq and
Afghanistan next year, I think that is at least $25 billion short of
where we will really be. Add that 25 to the 367; you get to 392. Take
out the Social Security surplus because it should not be included, and
the deficit in the basic budget is $552 billion.
That is what you are voting for if you vote for this budget
resolution, a deficit of $552 billion.
Now, when you run a deficit like that, you stack up debt, and once
again we will have to raise the debt ceiling; and one of the key
provisions of this bill buried beneath all of the line items is a
provision which would automatically spin off an increase in the debt
ceiling of $690 million--$690 billion. It will take the debt of the
United States up to $8.1 trillion.
It is hard to get my tongue around those numbers.
When Mr. Bush came to office, the statutory debt ceiling of the
United States was $5.9 trillion. Adopt this budget resolution and we
will raise that ceiling by $2.2 trillion to $8.1 trillion. That is how
much we have had to increase the debt ceiling, $2 trillion in order to
accommodate the fiscal policies of the Bush administration.
Now, we have got record deficits. We have record debt. That is bad
enough, but even worse, even worse in this budget resolution, there is
no plan, no process and no prospect, not even a PAYGO rule for
balancing the budget or anyone issuing the deficit over a period of
time. All we have here, after a lot of huffing and puffing, is a puny
version of the PAYGO rule that House Democrats and House Republican on
two occasions in the 1990s adopted to apply to both tax cuts and
spending increases on the entitlement side. All we have got here is a
1-year extension that applies only in the Senate, no application
whatsoever in the House. That is all we have got.
The gentleman says if you do not vote for this, it could impair the
recovery. Well, let me say, Mr. Greenspan warned us only a week or two
ago that this recovery we are beginning to enjoy may be short lived
unless we come to grips with this critical problem, and that is
mounting, never-ending deficits that these budgets are producing.
So the thing that is incumbent upon us now is not to kick the can
down the road, is not just to pass something for the sake of saying we
passed the budget resolution, we fixed the 302(a) number. We can go
ahead with our appropriation bills. We need a plan; we need a process.
We need to deal with this deficit now, and this budget resolution does
not do it. That is why we should defeat it, send it back to conference
and do it right.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. NUSSLE. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Let me just respond quickly and say, and I forgot this part, we are
reducing the budget deficit by $100 billion. So I understand there is
concern out there. We are taking $100 billion off the top as a result
of this budget because we are planning our work and we are sticking to
our plan, and it is a good plan.
Mr. TOM DAVIS of Virginia. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. NUSSLE. I yield to the gentleman from Virginia.
Mr. TOM DAVIS of Virginia. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman.
I ask this question for myself and my colleagues, the gentleman from
Virginia (Mr. Wolf), the gentleman from Virginia (Mr. Moran) and the
gentleman from Maryland (Mr. Hoyer).
I note on Wednesday, March 31, with 299 votes, the House passed House
Resolution 581 regarding pay comparability for Federal employees. That
language is not included in the resolution.
Is it the gentleman's understanding that the language of that
resolution is the position of the House?
Mr. NUSSLE. It is my understanding. The gentleman is correct.
Mr. TOM DAVIS of Virginia. I thank the gentleman.
Mr. NUSSLE. Mr. Speaker, I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman from
Texas (Mr. Thornberry), a very valued member of the committees.
Mr. THORNBERRY. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding me
time and commend him on his patience and persistence that was required
to have this conference report.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of this conference report. In my view,
the first job of the Federal government is to defend the country, and
there is certainly no greater priority in this budget than protecting
America.
When it comes to helping make the country strong, we in Congress have
an
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important role to play. Part of our role involves the other major bill
we are working on this week, the defense authorization bill. But I
believe that passing this budget today also puts in place an essential
building block that helps make sure we do our job in keeping and
improving on a strong America.
This budget fully funds the President's request for military and
homeland security. It allocates $420 billion for the national security
function. Included in that is $402 billion for the military, and on top
of that is $50 billion that the chairman just talked about for the
ongoing operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Once that allocation is translated into the various programs, we will
have increased basic pay for soldiers in the military, 21 percent over
the past 3 years.
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We will have increased personnel funding 59 percent since 2001.
Operation and maintenance will have increased 55 percent; procurement
up 43 percent; R&D funding up 76 percent over the past 3 years.
In short, Mr. Speaker, we will have provided everything the Pentagon
has asked for the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan and then some.
On homeland security, this budget allocates $33.4 billion, including
$31 billion for the Department of Homeland Security. This is nearly
double what those agencies were receiving in 2001, nearly double. The
budget carves out $2.5 billion in advance funding for Bioshield, the
effort to deal with that threat which many people view as the most
dangerous to us, biological warfare.
But as I said when the House first considered this budget, we could
slap a homeland security label on the whole Federal budget and still
not be perfectly safe; but passing this budget today allows the other
committees to do their work on the detailed programs and make sure that
in Congress we stand up and do our job on homeland security and
defense, supporting the men and women who are on the front lines every
day protecting our lives and our freedom. It deserves our support.
Mr. SPRATT. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from
Virginia (Mr. Scott).
Mr. SCOTT of Virginia. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for
yielding me time.
This is not a serious attempt to deal with a serious problem. This is
a chart that shows the mess we have gotten ourselves into. It is the
deficit since the Vietnam War, Reagan, and Bush. The Clinton
administration cleaned up the mess, and here we are now with a huge
deficit.
If you run up deficits, you have got to pay out interest on the
national debt. This is the interest on the national debt we were
projected to pay when this administration came in. This is the interest
on the national debt we are going to have to pay for messing up the
deficit, $300 billion additional interest on the national debt. $300
billion at $30,000 each, that is enough to hire every unemployed person
in the country, over 10 million people.
The bill presented today is $367 billion more in debt. The chairman
is right, we are not digging into our pockets. We are digging into our
grandchildren's pockets.
This bill ignores the PAYGO rules of fiscal responsibility. It is a
1-year budget rather than the traditional 5- or 10-year budget. So a
lot of the problems are hidden. It is not a serious attempt to deal
with a serious problem.
We should reject the conference report.
Mr. NUSSLE. Mr. Speaker, could I inquire how much time is remaining
on both sides.
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Simpson). The gentleman from Iowa (Mr.
Nussle) has 13\1/2\ minutes remaining, and the gentleman from South
Carolina (Mr. Spratt) has 24 minutes remaining.
Mr. NUSSLE. Mr. Speaker, we will reserve our time and let the other
side catch up a little bit.
Mr. SPRATT. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from
Illinois (Mr. Emanuel).
Mr. EMANUEL. Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to this conference
report.
In the 2000 campaign, President Bush declared that he was opposed to
nation-building. Well, he has succeeded in keeping his commitment. When
you leave $3 trillion of debt, a budget with $500 billion in deficit, 3
million Americans who have lost their jobs, 44 million Americans
without health care, two more million Americans in poverty, George Bush
can say he has kept his commitment against nation-building. Who knew it
was America he was talking about.
This budget shows that you cannot finance three wars with three tax
cuts and get a different result and continue the same policies by
putting your foot on the accelerator on the same policy. You will get
the same result: 3 million Americans without jobs, $3 trillion added to
the Nation's debt, $500 billion in additional debt on top of that, and
no ability to deal with the health care crisis and the college tuition
crisis that middle-class families are facing.
We need new direction, a new set of policies to put middle-class
families and their economic interests and the interests of their
families at the heart of our economic policy. We need to break with the
policies that continue to literally reward wealth at the expense of
work.
Mr. SPRATT. Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gentlewoman from New York
(Mrs. Maloney) for the purposes of a unanimous consent request.
(Mrs. MALONEY asked and was given permission to revise and extend her
remarks.)
Mrs. MALONEY. Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to the budget.
Mr. Speaker, over the past three years, fiscal recklessness has
reigned over this House. Record surpluses have been molded into record
deficits. Sensible spending has been overtaken by a bloated budget.
Discipline and prosperity have been shoved aside for irresponsibility
and mismanagement. Now comes today's budget conference report--an
opportunity to acknowledge Federal misspending by establishing budget
enforcement rules for, at the very least, the next 5 years. Instead,
``pay-as-you-go'' has been adopted for 1 year only, but there is no way
to untangle this fiscal mess in 1 year. Perhaps our friends on the
other side of the aisle realized that the voting public, in fact,
embraces fiscal discipline. Perhaps they want to give the appearance of
a balanced budget to score points in November. Unfortunately for our
country, mere appearances won't fix this mess, and they won't create
jobs. This thinly-veiled attempt at election-year discipline is far too
little and far too late. Is our government's budget better off today
than it was 4 years ago? Not by a long shot, and this conference
reports is not going to do anything to change that any time soon. And
that's why I am voting ``no.''
Mr. SPRATT. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from
Minnesota (Mr. Oberstar), the ranking member of the Committee on
Transportation and Infrastructure.
(Mr. OBERSTAR asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
Mr. OBERSTAR. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding time.
Mr. Speaker, this budget conference report is another step backward
in the action in reverse the Republican leadership and the White House
have been conducting on transportation funding over the last 6 months.
Last fall, the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure
introduced a bipartisan bill at $375 billion over 6 years, but to
appease the Bush administration, the House leadership jawboned that
number down to $350 billion, then 325, then 300, finally $284 billion,
the number which the House passed by an overwhelming vote; but that was
not low enough for the White House.
Now the conference report cuts $11 billion from the will of the House
to $273 billion. The White House still insists on its $256 billion
figure. That means not one dollar more for highway and transit, not one
new job compared to the current TEA-21 law. That is a formula for
gridlock, congestion, and economic stagnation. We should reject this
conference report.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong opposition to S. Con. Res. 95, the
Budget Resolution Conference Report for FY2005. Mr. Speaker, let me
briefly focus on the highway and transit funding assumed in the
Republican Budget.
Last November, 73 Members of the Committee on Transportation and
Infrastructure introduced a bipartisan bill to authorize $375 billion
for the highway, transit, and transportation safety programs for the
next 6 years. We developed these program funding levels based upon the
Department of Transportation's report assessing the highway and transit
needs of our Nation. In March, the Committee unanimously approved that
bill. That bill would have
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stemmed the tide of crippling congestion that is overcoming our
metropolitan areas.
However, the Bush Administration adamantly opposes additional
infrastructure investment, and the House Republican Leadership made
clear that the bill would never see the light of day. We have seen a
Republican ``auction in reverse'' ever since.
In February, the Senate, by a vote of 76-21, passed its bill
authorizing $318 billion for surface transportation infrastructure. The
White House threatened a veto.
To further appease the Bush Administration, the House Republican
Leadership forced the Transportation Committee to cut this
infrastructure investment even more--to $284 billion. In April, the
House considered that down-sized bill and it passed overwhelmingly, by
a vote of 357-65. It still wasn't good enough for the White House and
it again threatened a veto.
Now, the Republican Leadership, pursuant to the Budget Resolution
Conference Report, cuts this critical infrastructure investment even
further--to $273 billion. The Republican Budget assumes $273 billion
for TEA-21 reauthorization, which is $11 billion less than the $284
billion provided by H.R. 3550 (TEA LU) as passed by the House just last
month. The Republican Budget is $45 billion less than the Senate-passed
funding level.
The reverse auction continues and I fear it will not end until
infrastructure investment is cut to President Bush's proposal. The
Administration is adamantly insisting that total investment be no more
than $256 billion over 6 years. And let me be clear on what the Bush
Administration bill provides: not one more dollar for highway and
transit infrastructure, not one new job. Compared to where we are
today, the Administration's bill provides no increase for highway
funding and no increase for transit funding for the next five years--
not a single additional dollar. As a result, not one additional job
will be created by this zero-growth investment.
The result of the White House's absolute intransigence on its
entirely unacceptable proposal is traffic gridlock in our communities
and legislative deadlock in Congress.
Mr. Speaker, our country has worked too hard to put the current
transportation system in place to allow this administration to squander
previous investments made over generations and allow that system to
deteriorate.
I urge my colleagues to vote ``no'' on S. Con. Res. 95.
Mr. SPRATT. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from
Virginia (Mr. Moran).
Mr. MORAN of Virginia. Mr. Speaker, I thank my friend and ranking
member of the Committee on the Budget from South Carolina for the time.
Mr. Chairman, every minute, the Bush administration spends $991,000
more than it takes in, basically $1 million in deficit every single
minute. We have lost control of the budget; and this is not going to
give us control, even though this purportedly is what it is supposed to
do.
One of the things that it does, and the American people need to know
this, is that it increases the debt limit by $690 billion to over $8
trillion. We were told that the last time we increased the debt limit
to $6.9 trillion that we would not have to do it again until 2008
because of the President's tax cuts, and here we are right back again
increasing the debt limit to the $8.1 trillion. This is a bad budget
resolution.
It used to be that we had a 10-year window. We could look out to see
what this budget was going to do over 10 years; and then to hide the
real deficit creative aspect of this budget, we reduced that to 5
years. Now none of us could have imagined that we would actually bring
a budget resolution to the floor limited to one single year.
This is a bad budget resolution. There is no provision for the
future. It digs the deficit even deeper, and then we do not even have
PAYGO rules that apply. This budget is out of control and deserves to
be defeated, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. NUSSLE. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 15 seconds, and then I will
let them continue.
But I want people to listen. Listen. We have got half the speakers on
that side saying, worry about the deficit and debt, and the other half
coming like the gentleman from Minnesota saying we are not spending
enough, we are not spending enough, we are not spending enough. So is
it the deficit or is it spending? My goodness, my colleagues need to
get their message straight.
Mr. SPRATT. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the gentlewoman
from Oregon (Ms. Hooley).
Ms. HOOLEY of Oregon. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding
me time.
Mr. Speaker, what we have before us today is not a serious document.
Putting together a budget should be a reflection of the Nation's
priorities. It should be a long-term road map for where we want this
country to go and how we expect to get there.
This budget shows that we are not taking this process seriously. This
is a 1-year budget providing no commitments or details after the first
year. A failure to detail future plans masks the consequences of these
policy decisions in future years.
This budget shows that the majority is not taking the deficit
seriously, and the results of this budget will seriously tax our
children and grandchildren.
Deficits do matter. We cannot just continue to run up massive
deficits and add billions to the national debt.
This budget shows that we have no commitment to our future
generations. In addition to passing on massive deficits, this budget
underfunds education programs and cuts investments in our future, like
scientific and medical research.
I urge my colleagues to take their jobs seriously. We have to have a
road map for the future. Please vote ``no'' on this budget resolution.
Mr. SPRATT. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from
Wisconsin (Mr. Kind).
(Mr. KIND asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
Mr. KIND. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding me this
time.
Mr. Speaker, these are budgets with pay-as-you-go rules. These are
budgets that do not have pay-as-you-go rules, from 4 years of budget
surpluses to record setting budget deficit. What is hard to understand
here?
Mr. Speaker, this Congress and the legacy of this administration
cannot be historically large budget deficits and rising anti-
Americanism throughout the globe. Yet that is exactly what is taking
place here this evening.
We have an obligation to do better. As the father of two little boys,
I did not come to this Congress to leave a legacy of debt for our
children and grandchildren to inherit. This will not make us more
prosperous, nor will it make us more secure at the end of the day.
We can do better, and by applying pay-as-you-go rules just to the
United States Senate and not to the House of Representatives is the
height of deceit and double-speak that we have before us this evening.
I encourage my colleagues to reject this budget resolution. We can
and must do better.
Mr. SPRATT. Mr. Speaker, could I inquire of the Chair how much time
is left on this side.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from South Carolina (Mr.
Spratt) has 17 minutes remaining. The gentleman from Iowa (Mr. Nussle)
has 13\1/4\ minutes remaining.
Mr. SPRATT. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from
Massachusetts (Mr. Markey).
(Mr. MARKEY asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
Mr. MARKEY. Mr. Speaker, this Republican budget reminds me of Saint
Augustine's famous prayer, ``Lord, make me chaste but not just yet.''
The budget resolution covers only 1 year, not the 5 years normally
covered, in order to hide the true scope of the deficits their tax cuts
have created.
Its pay-as-you-go provisions do not apply to all of the Republican
tax cuts.
Oh, Lord, our Republican friends pray, make us fiscally chaste, but
not just yet, and only for a year when it comes to the tax cuts we have
given to our wealthy friends.
Since taking office, President Bush's reckless tax cutting policy has
drilled a massive fiscal hole in our economy. Today, the Republican
budget resolution drills even deeper.
Republicans are giving us Energizer Bunny deficits. They keep growing
and growing and growing.
But the Republican paradox is that they hate the government, but they
have to run for office in order to make sure that the government does
not work, and the perfect form of that is when they control the House,
the Senate, the White House, the Supreme Court because then they can
take the notion of benign neglect which does not harm, it does not
hurt, and turn it
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into designed neglect where the tax cuts are so massive that cuts in
Medicare and Social Security and Medicaid and education and the
environment and every other program that has been put on the books over
the last 60 years, as each year goes by, has a meat cleaver that has to
be applied to it in order to make sure that tax cuts for the wealthiest
2 percentile is preserved.
Mr. Speaker, this Republican budget reminds me of Saint Augustine's
famous prayer, ``Lord make me chaste, but not just yet.''
The budget resolution covers only one year, not the five years
normally covered--in order to hide the true scope of the deficits their
tax cuts have created.
And its pay-as-you-go provisions don't apply to all of the Republican
tax cuts!
Oh Lord, our Republican friends pray, make us fiscally chaste, not
just yet, and only for a year when it comes to the tax cuts we've given
to our wealthy friends.
Since taking office, President Bush's reckless tax cutting policy has
drilled a massive fiscal hole in our economy. Today, the Republican
budget resolution drills even deeper.
Republicans are giving us Energizer Bunny deficits--they keep
growing, and growing, and growing . . .
Just 3\1/2\ years ago, CBO projected a $5.6 billion surplus over the
next 10 years. Today, we're looking at a whopping $4.4 trillion deficit
through 2014.
The Republican budget on the Floor today reinforces this astonishing
reversal of fortune. It is a stunning, self-inflicted fiscal wound that
will fester for generations yet to come. The Congressional Budget
Office estimates that the budget deficit in 2004 will top last year's
all-time high deficit and reach $600 billion when current borrowing
from the Medicare and Social Security Trust Funds are included.
This resolution before us today will essentially freeze non-defense,
non-homeland discretionary programs. Its budget proposes $13 billion in
mandatory cuts over 5 years under the guise of reducing waste, fraud
and abuse. But in reality these cuts could slash veterans' health care,
Medicaid, unemployment assistance and other domestic programs that
Americans depend on.
The Republican budget scheme calls not for benign neglect of Social
Security, Medicare, health care, education and other domestic programs,
but designed neglect, in order to siphon away the money the federal
government needs to meet its obligations under critical programs that
benefit seniors, veterans, the environment and our children.
Former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill reported that during cabinet
meetings early in the Bush Administration, Vice President Cheney
brushed off concerns about tax cuts causing huge deficits by saying
``Reagan proved that deficits don't matter.''
The Republican paradox is that Conservatives hate government, but
they have to run for office to make sure it doesn't work.
With this budget resolution, they will have succeeded--but their
success spells disaster for all of those Americans who depend on the
Federal government to help them, and for the future generations who
will be stuck with the tab for the tax cuts the Republicans have given
to the wealthy.
Mr. Speaker, Vice President Cheney is wrong. Deficits do matter.
Defeat this wrong-headed budget resolution, so that we can stop digging
the deficit hole deeper.
Mr. SPRATT. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from
New York (Mr. Engel).
Mr. ENGEL. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding time to
me.
Mr. Speaker, what has happened to the heart and soul of the
Republican Party? I used to have a lot of respect for my friends on the
other side of the aisle when they called themselves fiscal
conservatives. The Republicans can never again call themselves fiscal
conservatives.
The American people are not foolish. Each person, each household in
America understands that in a budget you only spend as much as you
have. If you keep overspending year after year, if you spend more money
than you take in time and time again, bad things happen; and that is
what is happening here.
We are having an orgy of tax cuts, and we have an unbalanced budget,
and we are passing on a legacy of debt to our children and our
grandchildren.
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Shame on us.
We fought long and hard in this Chamber to balance the budget during
the Clinton Presidency. We succeeded by making hard choices. Yet today
we are presented with an easy choice, borrow and spend. The borrow-and-
spend Republicans have hit once again. Shame on the majority for this
sham budget.
When the House debated the budget resolution earlier this year, I
rose in opposition to it because it is a big fat IOU to our children
and grandchildren. It is unfair. Shame on the majority for abandoning
PAYGO for spending and tax cuts.
We should vote down this quick and easy fix. Let us make the hard
choices that we were elected to make. Let us pass a budget that
balances soon, not one that never balances, and not a phony one that is
only 1 year because we want to masquerade the sham that we are causing.
Mr. SPRATT. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from
Florida (Mr. Davis).
Mr. DAVIS of Florida. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from South
Carolina (Mr. Spratt) for yielding me this time.
One of the statistics that I think is beyond dispute here is the
Federal debt now totals $7 trillion. And if you break that down by
every person living in the United States, it is $24,000 a person.
A few brave, moderate Republicans in the House stood for a central
proposition that the American people expect us to live by, that is,
Democrats, Republicans and Independents, and it is pay as you go. Do
not cut taxes, do not spend, do not drive this massive Federal debt up
further unless you can find a way to offset the tax cut or spending.
Tonight, the Republican majority in this House entirely repudiates
that proposition over the objections of independent-minded Republicans
in the House and Senate. There will be no pay-as-you-go. Instead, we
will be adopting an historic debt ceiling in excess of $7 trillion. How
abysmal. What reckless fiscal responsibility.
It is the Democrats standing on the floor of the House tonight
fighting for fiscal responsibility. This is what taxpayers and citizens
throughout the country expect. And I would urge the moderate
Republicans in the U.S. House to reject this budget resolution. Join
your comrades in the Senate and let us restore fiscal responsibility.
Mr. NUSSLE. Mr. Speaker, I continue to reserve the balance of my
time.
Mr. SPRATT. Mr. Speaker, could the Chair tell me how much time is
left?
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Simpson). The gentleman from South
Carolina (Mr. Spratt) has 12\1/2\ minutes remaining, and the gentleman
from Iowa (Mr. Nussle) has 13\1/4\ minutes remaining.
Mr. SPRATT. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from
Tennessee (Mr. Cooper).
Mr. COOPER. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from South Carolina
for yielding me this time.
Mr. Speaker, this is a sad night for this House. The budget of the
United States of America should be a blueprint for our Nation, but this
budget only extends 1 year. We used to make 10-year budgets, and then
our friends on the other side of the aisle got more modest in their
expectations. It was reduced to 5 years because they were afraid for
the American people to see what lay in the 5 years beyond. Now, they
are apparently afraid for the American people to see what lies beyond 1
year.
We should be preparing for the future. We should be living within our
means. And for all the good things that have been said about this
budget, it hides the largest budget deficit in American history.
Now, if that were temporary, that would be one thing. But what we are
looking at are permanent structural deficits that will burden this
economy and burden our children and grandchildren for generations. They
are doing irreparable harm to our Nation.
There were some good reasons for a temporary deficit, but not for a
permanent structural deficit. My Republican colleagues on the other
side of the aisle are good people, but they have been misled by
ideology into abandoning principles like pay-as-you-go, which helped
rescue our Nation before from a sea of debt. They have abandoned the
principle of fiscal responsibility that used to be the lodestar for the
Republican Party.
It is so important that we pull together and live within our means,
spend responsibly, and tax responsibly so that we can have a stronger
Nation.
Mr. NUSSLE. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume to
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respond to the gentleman that that is why our budget reduces the
deficit next year, $100 billion alone, and that is without raising
taxes.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman from Ohio (Mr.
Portman), a very valued member of the committee.
Mr. PORTMAN. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding me this
time, and I find it interesting to come to the floor tonight and hear
from my friends on the other side of the aisle that we need to have
less spending and more fiscal discipline.
Having been on the Committee on the Budget and gone through the
process of a markup where we heard again and again how we were not
spending enough on education, we were not spending enough on the
environment, we were not spending enough on health care, we were not
spending enough on labor issues, we were not spending enough. And
amendments were offered and amendments were voted down that would spend
more and more and more.
And, yes, the Democrats offered an alternative, and I applaud them
for that, on the floor of the House, although we did not have one in
committee. And it offered more spending, and that is fine, that is
fine. But then to come to the floor and say somehow this budget has too
much spending in it just does not make too much sense.
The Democrat alternative also offered higher taxes and increasing
taxes, and we disagree with that. We think this economy has finally
turned. We now see not only the best growth we have had in 20 years,
but jobs coming back. We think it is the wrong time to raise taxes.
So I just hope for those listening, my colleagues and others out
there, that they realize the budget that is before us, that the
chairman of the Committee on the Budget has put together, is a fair
budget that provides for spending restraint. It does provide for
increases in spending on homeland security and on defense, which are
necessary right now, but for the rest of the budget it is pretty much
flat.
And, unfortunately, given our budget deficit situation, we cannot
make additional investments right now in some high-priority areas and
other areas. We have to make, as someone said earlier, some tough
choices, and we are making them in this budget.
I want to be clear why we believe that it is important to continue to
allow the tax relief to work and not to increase taxes. We believe that
because we have seen the impact of tax relief. We did not do it because
we just like tax relief for tax relief itself. We did it because we
thought it would grow the economy. And it has worked.
This chart shows that the growth of our economy is the greatest
growth we have had in 20 years in this country. In the third quarter of
last year, we actually had 8.2 percent growth. We had 4.2 percent
growth in the last quarter. When you combine the last three quarters
together, it is the best growth we have had since the 1980s, and we
want to continue that.
The forecast for the future, in fact, is for much higher growth than
we even thought was possible only a year ago. Why? Because the economy
is really turning.
Along with that growing economy, we are seeing housing starts and
permits at record highs. Home ownership in the country is at record
highs right now. Minority home ownership is at record highs. This is
what is happening out there in the real world, but it is good news
about our economy that we want to continue.
We are also seeing here again that it is not just a growing economy
and the fastest growth in 20 years, but the jobs are coming back.
Unemployment in this country right now is 5.6 percent. That is lower
unemployment, my colleagues, than we had in the 1970s, in the 1980s, or
in the 1990s. The average unemployment in those three decades was
higher than 5.6 percent. We are seeing unemployment at low levels, and
we are seeing jobs coming back. There were 1.1 million jobs created in
this country in the last 8 months. That is a million, 1.1 million, jobs
in the last 8 months.
But let us talk about those jobs. Perhaps the gentleman would like to
tell me what is wrong with 288,000 new jobs being added last month,
300,000 jobs in the month of March. We are seeing the jobs coming back
big time, and this is not the time to change our direction and raise
taxes on the American people and on small businesses and on our
families. It is a time to continue to see this economy grow and
prosper. That is what this budget provides.
It is a fair budget. It makes tough choices, but it also ensures that
we continue to have the kind of economic growth that all of us hope to
see.
Mr. SPRATT. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 15 seconds to respond to the
gentleman.
The gentleman said jobs are coming back, and the recent job growth is
a welcome development, but, Mr. Speaker, we are still 2.2 million jobs
below the level of jobs existing in the economy in March of 2001 when
the last recession began. We have never seen such a jobless recovery as
we have seen now.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from New Jersey
(Mr. Andrews).
(Mr. ANDREWS asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
Mr. ANDREWS. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding me this
time.
Mr. Speaker, this budget does not just deepen the fiscal deficit, it
deepens the moral deficit of cynicism that Americans feel increasingly
towards this government, because this budget is built upon a
misrepresentation. It is built upon the misrepresentation that we can
have it all and never make a tough choice. It says you can keep raising
what you spend, you can continue to reduce taxes, you can continue to
borrow massive sums of money, and nothing bad will ever happen.
Something very bad is going to happen if this budget should become
law. We are going to borrow more money, drive up interest rates, dry up
capital for the private sector, and kill jobs in this country for many,
many years to come.
Mr. Speaker, I think the majority has a point when they put forward a
1-year budget resolution. Maybe there is intuitive wisdom in that,
because if they follow this policy next year, they will not be writing
the budget resolution, a new President and a new majority will.
We welcome and look forward to that day.
Mr. SPRATT. Mr. Speaker, I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman from
Maryland (Mr. Hoyer), the minority whip.
Mr. HOYER. Mr. Speaker, there has been a lot of talk about the
economy on that side of the aisle. I do not blame them. I would not
talk about this budget either. I, frankly, would not talk much about
the economy either. A net loss of jobs to this date. Does anybody want
to dispute that? Apparently not.
Let none of us be mistaken about what we are witnessing here on the
floor today. Mr. Speaker, as important as the budget debate is at a
time of record deficits, at a time of exploding debt, at a time of war,
this debate is about far more than the budget. This debate marks the
death, in time and place, of the so-called Republican revolution.
Ten years ago, the Republican Party recaptured the majority on a
pledge of reform and a wave of hot rhetoric. Today, with this, and I
use this word advisedly, dishonest, phony, political Band-Aid that the
majority wants to call a budget, they, for all intents and purposes,
are raising the white flag of surrender and announcing to all of
America: We Republicans simply cannot govern. We Republicans simply
cannot fulfill one of our most basic responsibilities, to pass a real,
honest budget. We Republicans have been so blinded by our tax cut
ideology, that we do not recognize the irresponsibility and, yes, the
immorality of policies that force our children and grandchildren to pay
our bills.
Mr. Speaker, this 1-year Republican budget is simply not credible. It
brazenly attempts to conceal the record deficits that Republican
policies have created and the fact that they have no plan to rein in
those deficits. In fact, for the 1 year it does cover, it projects a
deficit of $367 billion.
It conceals the fact that Republicans are robbing the Social Security
trust fund to pay for Republican tax cuts skewed toward the highest-
income taxpayers.
It conceals the fact they would freeze domestic priorities, such as
health care and the environment, and cut them drastically in the
future.
And it conceals the fact that this conference report would increase
the statutory debt limit by $690 billion.
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And not one of my colleagues on that side of the aisle has the
courage to stand up and vote for that increase. Not one.
I have been here long enough to hear my colleagues railing about
increasing the debt. Last year, my colleagues increased it even more,
without a vote. It was increased to almost as much as the entire debt
from 1789 to 1981 at the time I came to Congress. It was $981 billion
then, and my Republican colleagues increased it $940-plus billion last
year and another $670 in this budget.
So, Republicans, my friends, when you vote on this budget, know that
you are voting to increase the debt by $670 billion.
This budget also conceals the fact that this conference report would
lead us into further debt of $8 trillion.
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Yet under the Hastert rule, there will be no debate and no vote on
that action.
Mr. Speaker, with this conference report, the majority demonstrates
its inability to govern and refuses to address the problems that its
own policies have created. This is the last gasp of the revolution. I
do not think that they will accept it on the other side, certainly they
should not; and I do not think they will. I urge my colleagues to vote
against this conference report.
Mr. NUSSLE. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from
Florida (Ms. Ginny Brown-Waite).
Ms. GINNY BROWN-WAITE of Florida. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to be
here this evening to discuss how well we treated the veterans in this
budget.
Since Republicans took control of Congress in 1995, we have made
great strides in improving the benefits for our Nation's veterans.
During that period, total spending on veterans has increased from $38
billion to $60 billion. That is a 58 percent increase compared with
only a 36 percent increase during the previous 10 years when the
Democrats were in control.
And since 1995, payments per veteran have actually risen by 79
percent. Let us take a moment to review some of the most important
improvements. For example, in veterans medical care, the Republican
Congress has expanded eligibility for medical care in 1996 and 1999. As
a result, the number of veterans using the VA medical care has
increased from 2.5 million in 1995 to almost 4.7 million today.
Since 1995, the total spending on veterans medical care has increased
from $16.2 billion to $28.3 billion this year alone. That is a 75
percent increase. In veterans educational benefits, since 1995 monthly
education benefit levels under the Montgomery-GI bill increased from
$405 to $985, a 143 percent increase. This compares with only a 35
percent increase during the time that the Democrats had control.
And under the 40 years of Democrat control prior to us taking
control, there was no progress made whatsoever on concurrent receipt.
We are very fortunate now that military retirees who are injured in
combat or while training for combat or who are 50 percent or greater
service disabled are eligible for the first time to receive retirement
benefits concurrent with their veterans disability compensation. There
is no doubt that the Republicans have helped the veterans in this
budget.
Mr. SPRATT. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself the balance of my time.
(Mr. SPRATT asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
Mr. SPRATT. Mr. Speaker, let me make a couple of points clear because
they have been brought up repeatedly throughout this debate.
First of all, how much have we reaped in the way of jobs as a result
of these enormous tax cuts mainly benefiting wealthy Americans? What
has been the pay-off in jobs?
This economy went into a recession in March 2001. If we take the
level of jobs in the private sector at that point in time and compare
it to today, we are short. There are 2.2 million fewer jobs today,
notwithstanding the enormous stimulus of all these tax cuts, 2.2
million fewer jobs. For the first time since President Hoover, we have
a recovery where we have not recovered the jobs even though we are 15
months, 18 months out from the trough of the recession. Actually, it is
longer than that.
It has also been said that revenues have been rising, and they have
taken an up-tick recently; but this chart shows when President Bush
proposed his tax cuts, and we said, Mr. Bush, you are betting the
budget on a blue-sky forecast; you are betting it for everything it may
be able to sustain, this was the course of revenues that he projected,
OMB projected with the tax cuts. With the $3.5 trillion worth of tax
cuts that was enacted in 2001, the Bush administration nevertheless
projected that revenues would rise and stabilize at that level.
Here is the actual level. The broken blue line is the projected
level, the red line which descends precipitously is the actual level of
revenues, and the difference between these revenues here, which is
about $1.1 trillion and this level here, which is below $750 billion,
is at least $250 billion. Revenues have not risen; taxes have not
rebounded. We have not had the supply-side phenomenon now, as we did
not have in 1981. This is the actual record.
Let me show Members the situation we find ourselves in which makes it
absolutely essential for us to use the budget resolution, the one tool
that we have which deals in the aggregate with everything we have spent
and everything we take in by way of taxes.
This is the curve on which we were proceeding in 2001 when Mr. Bush
came to office. He inherited an advantage that no President in modern
times has had, a budget in surplus. He was in surplus by $236 billion
in fiscal year 2000, and this was the course that was projected by his
economists at the Office of Management and Budget. This is the course
that we have determined we are on today. If you are just for what Iraq
is likely to cost and what Afghanistan is likely to cost, if you assume
that all of the tax cuts are going to be renewed, which is a
politically likely assumption, this is where we are. We get a little
up-tick from the economy, but the bottom line shows that having risen a
bit from a projected deficit of $521 billion this year, we go up a
little bit over $324 billion, but 10 years from now we are right where
we started: $502 billion. We tread water. We do nothing. We accumulate
debt, and that is why we are having in this resolution to raise the
debt ceiling by $690 billion, because year after year we are stacking
debt on top of debt. That is the result of this budget, and this
resolution does nothing on the revenue side or the spending side.
We have heard a lot of talk about how we have this runaway spending,
but let me show where the spending is occurring. If we look at all of
the spending in the Federal budget and you take these spikes in the
budget where spending in certain accounts is faster than current
services, guess what those accounts are: defense, homeland security,
the response to 9/11, accounts for 4 fiscal years accounts for 90 to 95
percent of all of the increase in spending over and above current
services.
There are two points Members can draw from this. First of all, the
President has requested this. We provided it. We had to spend it.
Secondly, the likelihood this is going to be reined in significantly,
defense, it goes up to $422 billion. That is without including the
supplementals. This is not going to be reined in significantly. So to
talk about accounts where spending is growing, we cannot expect in the
near term any significant cuts in that area.
What we continually hear talk about is the sector of the budget
called domestic nonhomeland security, domestic discretionary spending.
That is it right there. That is one-sixth of the budget. It is about
$384 billion. The budget deficit is bigger than that. Clearly, this has
the FBI, the National Park Service, the court service, the whole
operation of the government in it. Clearly, we cannot squeeze enough
blood out of that turnip to begin to get rid of this enormous deficit.
Let me show Members one final chart just to show it can be done. This
budget resolution does not do it, but it can be done. When President
Clinton came to office in January 1992, we had just recorded our
biggest deficit in history, $290 billion at the end of fiscal year
1992. He came into office in 1993. Spending was at 22.5 percent of GDP.
We did it by lowering spending and raising revenues. It can be done
again, but this budget resolution does not do it. Let us vote it down
and send them back to conference and start over again.
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Mr. NUSSLE. Mr. Speaker, I yield such time as he may consume to the
gentleman from Texas (Mr. Neugebauer) for the purpose of a colloquy
between myself and the gentleman from Texas, and ask the gentleman to
summarize.
Mr. NEUGEBAUER. Mr. Speaker, in the Senate Budget Committee, they
adopted a provision which would have reduced the maximum payments
farmers can receive under the 2002 farm bill, and I asked the gentleman
to address that during the conference. Is that provision still in the
budget?
Earlier this year, the Senate Budget Committee adopted a provision in
its budget resolution which assumes enactment of legislation reducing
the maximum payments farmers can receive from commodity support
programs. As the Chairman knows, the 2002 Farm Bill addressed this
issue through a delicate compromise acceptable to rural members across
different regions of the country. Any erosion of this compromise would
penalize producers in my West Texas district who would be punished for
the efficiencies they have achieved. To clarify for my constituents who
strongly oppose the Senate provision, I would like to ask the
distinguished Chairman of the Budget Committee if the Senate payment
limit provision was dropped in conference?
Mr. NUSSLE. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. NEUGEBAUER. I yield to the gentleman from Iowa.
Mr. NUSSLE. Mr. Speaker, that provision is still in the budget. We
worked to preserve that. I appreciate the gentleman's leadership on
that. The provision in the Senate-passed budget resolution concerning
the farm payment limitation is not included in the conference version.
I thank the gentleman for his leadership and his continued efforts in
this regard.
The gentleman is correct and I appreciate his leadership on this
issue and work to ensure that we keep the promises of the Farm Bill.
The provision in the Senate passed budget resolution concerning farm
payment limitations is not included in this conference version. Any
major changes to farm payment limits or any other agricultural policies
should be addressed by the Agriculture Committee which has jurisdiction
over these issues.
While the House passed budget resolution, H. Con. Res. 393, included
$371 million over five years in reconciliation instructions for the
Agriculture Committee, these instructions, which were never intended to
reduce critical farm commodity support programs, are not included in
the conference agreement.
Mr. NEUGEBAUER. Mr. Speaker, I thank the chairman for his efforts on
behalf of my constituents in West Texas.
My constituents will be most pleased and relieved by the decision to
remove the Senate's farm payment limit proposal in the conference
version of the budget resolution and the Chairman's continued
affirmation that neither this budget, nor the House version, will
reduce any Farm Bill program payments.
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Simpson). Without objection, each Member
will be allowed to revise and extend their remarks.
There was no objection.
Mr. NUSSLE. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from
Connecticut (Mr. Shays), a very valued Member and the vice chairman of
the committee.
Mr. SHAYS. Mr. Speaker, as we have developed this fiscal year 2005
budget resolution, I have listened carefully to my colleagues on both
sides of the aisle. The one common theme for the many budget
alternatives offered by the Congressional Black Caucus, the Blue Dogs,
and the distinguished ranking member of the Committee on the Budget on
behalf of the Democratic Caucus has been higher taxes and more
spending.
I have also heard too frequently that my side of the aisle is cutting
spending for important programs, like education, veterans, and health
care. The fact is when you look at Federal spending for the last few
years, you will see few programs that have not received significant
increases, in most cases very significant increases. Only in Washington
do we call a spending increase a cut.
I think our budget can be summed up in one word: responsible.
We think it is responsible to control spending at a time of mounting
budget deficits. By freezing nondefense, nonhomeland security spending
for 1 year, we are taking a painful, but necessary, step towards fiscal
responsibility. I strongly support many of these programs, but I also
know being fiscally responsible requires tough choices, like we made in
the late 1990s, including Members saying no to increases to many
popular programs.
We think it is responsible to not raise taxes during a period of
economic recovery. The tax relief we passed in 2001 and 2003 fueled the
economy to 8.2 percent growth in the third quarter of 2003, the highest
growth rate in 20 years; 4.1 percent growth in the fourth quarter of
last year; and 4.2 percent growth in the first quarter of 2004.
Additionally, the unemployment rate declined from 6.3 percent in June
2003 to 5.6 percent in April 2004. While this substantial growth in the
economy is welcome news, we know there is still work to do,
particularly with employment. We think it is important to continue the
policies that have led to the current economic recovery. The fact is
there are more jobs today than ever before, but there are more people
looking for work.
We also think it is responsible to plan for ongoing military
operations around the world. All of us, on both sides of the aisles,
want to make sure we provide whatever resources are necessary for the
men and women of our Armed Forces who are risking their lives as we
speak. I look at the gentleman from California (Mr. Lantos) as a good
example. For this reason, we have provided $50 billion for fiscal year
2005 for the additional cost associated with our operations in Iraq and
Afghanistan.
I would just add it is absolutely critical we give this budget the
force of law. The Committee on the Budget has marked up legislation
that would reinstate discretionary spending caps and pay-as-you-go on
mandatory spending. I appreciate the leadership's willingness to
consider this legislation soon after we return in June.
Mr. Speaker, from 1997 until 2001, the books of the Federal budget
showed that we were running a surplus. For the 40 years prior to that,
the country was running deficits. I was grateful that we played a
significant role in crafting the budget in the 1990s that not only got
us to balance, but got us there ahead of time. We did it by cutting
taxes, controlling the growth of spending, and growing the economy.
{time} 2000
This budget begins to use that model to address the deficit and get
our country's financial house in order.
Mr. NUSSLE. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself the balance of my time.
It is often asked at a time, is America better off than it was 4
years ago? Is it better off at all?
Well, it is.
Homeland security. Since 2000, we have greatly strengthened our
homeland security, in part because of the budgets that we have passed
to make sure that our homeland is protected through strength. We have
created the Department of Homeland Security and more than doubled the
funding for homeland security since September 11. With the improved
resources, we have increased presence in key ports, the Bio Watch
program now on many large U.S. cities, and over 500,000 first
responders have been trained. America's homeland security is better
off.
Defense. Over the past 3 years, we have made great strides in
correcting the defense deficit done in the early 1990s, including
increasing the Department of Defense's annual budget by over $110
billion to prosecute the global war on terrorism, greatly improving the
military quality of life. Our defense is better off than it was 4 years
ago, and it is better off under this budget.
Our economy. The economy is growing now in 2004, the best in 20
years, not on the verge of a recession the way it was when President
Clinton left office. Real gross domestic product growth is at its
highest pace in 20 years. Payroll employment is growing strongly now.
We have had 1.1 million jobs added to this economy just since last
August. Manufacturing jobs are increasing, the unemployment rate is
falling, and housing markets are the strongest in 20 years. The economy
is much better off than it was 4 years ago and it will be better if we
continue the policies of this budget.
Our budget is the blueprint that allows these policies to continue,
and we will all be better off if we adopt that budget here today. We
need to adopt it to provide the strength of this country, the growth
for our economy, and the
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opportunity for our future. And we can do it without a tax increase and
reduce the deficit by over $100 billion next year alone. That is what
this budget accomplishes. The other side offers nothing but fear and
trying to talk down the economy and trying to scare people about our
future. That is not an agenda. Fear and anger is not an agenda.
The agenda we need to adopt today is a positive one of strength,
growth, and opportunity for our future; and we can do it if we adopt
this conference report on the budget. I ask for the adoption of the
conference report.
Mr. HASTERT. Mr. Speaker, I rise today in support of this Budget
Conference Report and I urge my colleagues on both sides of the aisle
to support.
I want to thank Budget Chairman Jim Nussle for his yeoman's work
under difficult circumstances.
My friends, this is a war-time budget.
We are at war, a war started on September 11, 2001.
This is world war, stretching from Afghanistan to Iraq, to almost
every other continent on the globe.
This war has two battlefields.
One is the foreign theater, where our troops are fighting a more
conventional war, fought by our brave soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq.
The Department of Defense is coordinating this fight.
The other battlefield is here at home, where we are fighting against
unknown terrorists. Our Department of Homeland Security is coordinating
that fight.
This budget includes responsible increases for both Departments. It
also includes 50 billion dollars for possible additional expenditures
on the war. Everything else is kept at a freeze level.
To those who don't like this budget, I say this is the most fiscally
responsible budget conference report we have considered on the House
floor since I have been in the Congress.
Now some of our friends on the other side of the aisle don't like the
modest number we include for tax relief in this budget. But they won't
be satisfied until we raise taxes on every man, woman and child in
America.
We keep the tax cuts in place because the tax cuts keep the economy
growing. In fact, since we last met on the floor to talk about the
budget, the economy has grown so quickly, that the estimates of the 10-
year budget deficit have dropped by a hundred billion dollars. That is
why we want to keep the tax cuts in place. To keep more people working,
to keep the economy growing, to keep America strong, and to win this
war. That is why we need to pass this budget.
Mr. Speaker, let's pass this budget and start the process of getting
our work done for the rest of the year.
Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas. Mr. Speaker, I rise today in this
distinguished body wanting more for the American public we were sworn
to represent. It was my sincere hope that after 7 weeks in a Conference
with Members of the Senate, that Republicans would find a way to make
this budget better than it was; instead they somehow found a way to
make it worse. Not only does this conference report maintain the prior
insufficient funding for vital issues like education, veterans funding,
and Homeland Security; but this conference report may very well be the
most irresponsible piece of budget legislation to ever come before this
body.
The fact that this conference report only truly provides budget
figures for 1 year goes beyond being irresponsible, but is in fact
cowardly. It is cowardly because the Republicans are putting out a 1-
year budget to hide from the long term effects of their own reckless
fiscal policies. The truth about this conference report is the same
truth that was evident from President Bush's budget and then the House
version of the budget; the truth is that Republicans will go to any
length to permanently extend tax cuts that benefit the rich.
No longer can Republicans in either body of Congress claim that
Democrats are the ones who hold irresponsible fiscal policies. It has
been in fact the Democrats who time after time have argued for a lower
deficit and more reasonable planning. It has been Democrats who have
been working tirelessly to get our budget back into balance. Instead of
embracing these goals, goals that the American people clearly care
about, the Republicans have decided instead to pursue an extreme agenda
that only truly benefits upper-class Americans.
The last time Congress provided a one-year budget was 1979. Any
reasonable person can tell you why that is true, because you need to
know that the decisions we make today will still make sense in the
future. The sad truth is that this conference report is bad now and
getting exponentially worse in the future; and the Republicans know
it's true.
A vote for this conference report is also a vote to increase the debt
limit by $690 billion, to a new limit of $8.1 trillion. When in the
history of this Nation or any other nation in fact, has it been in the
best interest to incur more debt? Again, the truth is clear,
Republicans have used this budget for one reason and one reason alone,
to make permanent their tax cuts for the wealthy. In fact, their
oneyear budget provides $122 billion less in defense funding than the
President has requested for 2006 through 2009. Instead of making a
reasonable compromise, Republicans in both chambers of Congress have
found a way to increase the debt while still under-funding vital
national priorities.
This conference report may also be classified as cowardly because not
only does it shy away from budget enforcement rules, but it runs and
hides. Once again, the truth is open and known; Republicans refuse to
have any reasonable constraint on their reckless tax policies.
The most disturbing aspect of this conference report is the way it
avoids practical Pay-As-You-Go (PAYGO) budget enforcement rules. For
years, the calls for fiscal responsibility were deafening from the
Republicans in this body and yet when they have the opportunity to
truly be responsible they decide to take the course of recklessness.
When Democrats wanted to increase funding for necessary programs in
education, veterans funding, and Homeland Security we were told that
increasing spending would harm the economy. Yet, when Republicans
themselves present wholesale changes in tax policy that have only been
proven to benefit the wealthy, they are unprepared and unwilling to
offer any offsets. This conference report will make these drastic tax
cuts permanent with having any offsets to help bring our budget in to
balance. Revenues coming in to the Federal Government are at an all-
time low and yet this nation's needs are increasing.
This conference report represents the kind of irresponsible budget
policies that have failed this Nation before. Republicans have not
lived up to the promises they have made in the past. Unfortunately our
children will be the ones forced to live with the consequences if we
allow this conference report to pass today.
Mr. BARRETT of South Carolina. Mr. Speaker, as we know, the policies
we've put in place to support economic growth are working.
But in addition to getting and keeping the economy going, we must
also control spending. It matters. If you're going to say that deficits
matter, you'd better believe that spending matters. All spending must
be paid for, either through taxes or borrowing--and both are burdens on
the economy. And for that simple reason alone, controlling spending is
itself a policy for sustaining stronger economic growth.
This budget calls for several measures to help us get our hands
around what has become an unsustainable rate of spending growth. This
includes holding the line on all nondefense, nonhomeland security
spending.
As Chairman Nussle mentioned earlier, this won't be easy. Many of us
here in Congress have gotten pretty comfortable signing off on huge
spending increases, and free-flowing new spending.
But success at keeping taxes and spending down will mean a stronger
economy and better standards of living for our Nation. If we don't
control spending the result will be higher borrowing or higher taxes.
Federal Reserve Chairman Greenspan has agreed that we need to control
spending, not raise taxes, if we want to make sure that we don't harm
our economy and our standards of living.
Here is his quote:
Tax rate increases of sufficient dimension to deal with our
looming fiscal problems arguably pose significant risks to
economic growth and the revenue base. The exact magnitude of
such risks are very difficult to estimate, but they are of
enough concern, in my judgment, to warrant aiming to close
the fiscal gap primarily, if not wholly, from outlay
restraint.
The simple translation of what he said is that we need to restrain
spending because the economy would be hurt by higher taxes. Our budget
resolution does just that: it restrains spending and keeps taxes from
increasing. That's good for our economy, and it's good for our Nation.
Mr. SPRATT. Mr. Speaker, the Budget Resolution Conference Report
marks the end of a long, arduous process, during which our staff do
most of the work and get little of the credit they are due. I would
like to thank my excellent staff for their expertise and energy and
tireless work. They are as follows: Tom Kahn, Sarah Abernathy, Arthur
Burris, Linda Bywaters, Dan Ezrow, Jennifer Friedman, Jason Lumia,
Sheila McDowell, Diana Meredith, Joe Minarik, Kimberly Overbeek, Scott
Russell, Andy Smullian, Lisa Venus, Andrea Weathers, and Jesse
Contario.
Ms. WATSON. Mr. Speaker, I rise to oppose the Republican budget that
we are being asked to vote on today. For several years now, responsible
Members of this body have been speaking out against a budgeting process
that has been getting more absurd and undemocratic by the year.
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But I believe this year that the Republican leadership has outdone
itself. Again this year, Republicans have given us a budget that fails
to pay for health care, fails to pay for schools, fails to pay for
veterans, and fails to pay for roads. Again this year, they have given
us a budget that increases the debt that our children will have to pay,
tying a thousand-pound weight around the neck of our economy.
But this year, the Republican leadership has added a new twist. This
budget is structured so that it cannot even be passed by the other body
and become law.
For those Americans outside of Washington who are watching this
tonight, you deserve to know something about the cynical exercise we
are engaged in here. The vote we will cast tonight will be purely
symbolic. It will only be symbolic because some Republicans on the
other side of the Capitol Building are finally saying enough is
enough--that we cannot continue to rack up debt and force it onto our
children. I regret that the Republican leadership in this House has not
yet reached the same conclusion and decided to get our fiscal house in
order.
Mr. EVANS. Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to S. Con. Res. 95. As
too many of us in this body know, this budget is a sham. It fails to
account for the real costs of waging the war in Iraq and Afghanistan.
At least on the House side, it allows tax cuts for the wealthiest
Americans to go forward unchecked, while spending for important
domestic programs is laid to waste.
Among those high priorities that will be severely underfunded is
veterans' health care. Committee on Veterans Affairs Chairman
Christopher H. Smith and I submitted Views and Estimates to the Budget
Committee requesting that it add $2.5 billion to VA's budget for fiscal
year 2004. This was not a ``pie in the sky'' request, but rather,
focused on maintaining current services, restoring funds from the
administration's failed proposals to increase copayments and introduce
new enrollment fees, and slightly enhancing some services that will
have to respond to the needs of demobilizing troops. The resolution we
are voting on today will make less than half of these funds available
to VA's discretionary programs.
Mr. Speaker, sadly, I realize VA programs are among those considered
``protected'' in this budget fiasco. Many social programs will fare
worse. Unfortunately, that's not good enough for our veterans,
especially during a time of war when we should be most sensitive toward
keeping our promises to the men and women who have borne the battle.
Many of the major veterans' organizations have expressed great
concern about the budget. As underfunded as the budget was by the
Committee's reckoning, it is even more so according to the Independent
Budget. The four major veterans service organizations who prepare this
document estimate that VA requires almost $4 billion to maintain its
services in fiscal year 2005. And that's not the worst of it--budget
process bills that may be put forth in the near future may use the
projections of future years spending to bind us to even more inadequate
budgets. So as bad as fiscal year 2005 looks, the outlook for future
years could be even bleaker.
Mr. Speaker, we must do better by the veterans who have served us.
We must do better by the American people. Vote ``no'' on accepting this
Conference Report.
Mr. DINGELL. Mr. Speaker, once again I rise in opposition to the
irresponsible budget conference report before us today.
This conference report, for the first time in over twenty years, only
provides us with a one-year budget plan. In the first version of the
bill, my colleagues attempted to use a five-year budget instead of a
ten-year budget to hide the massive fiscal irresponsibility of their
plan. Now, because even a five-year plan was too much, they have
reduced it even further to merely one year. There is no plan to reduce
the deficit or to provide funding for this Nation's most important
domestic programs, for our veterans, our seniors and our children. This
rascality on the part of my Republican colleagues is unacceptable. The
American people deserve to know the outrageous bills the Bush
Administration is racking up in their name and with our children's
credit.
Further, this bill included $55.2 billion in additional tax giveaways
which will only add to the already ballooning deficit. My Republican
colleagues will not even apply the ``pay-as-you-go'' (PAYGO) method to
these tax giveaways because they know we cannot afford them. The PAYGO
enforcement rule is a mere common sense attempt to steer clear of
unnecessary excessive spending. This is especially necessary to afford
the tremendous costs of war which we face today. In this budget, the
PAYGO rule is only applied to entitlement spending for one year, and in
reality would only apply to legislation in the Senate.
If this budget passes, we will also be agreeing to increase the debt
limit by $690 billion, to $8.1 trillion. Including this measure in the
budget and not as stand-alone legislation, is merely an attempt to
conceal the catastrophic costs incurred by the fiscal policy of this
Administration and Congress.
On the Medicare side, Republicans offer no proposals to improve the
insufficient Medicare drug benefit enacted last year. Also absent from
this budget are other proposals that could improve the Medicare program
such as funding for increased nursing home staffing and quality
improvement or fixing the flawed payment system for doctors. Nor are
there any proposals to protect the Medicare program from being
overcharged and defrauded by private insurance companies and Health
Maintenance Organizations. And of course, there is the similarly
outrageous effort of this White House to hide from both Democrats and
Republicans the true cost of their Medicare privatization bill, which
truly makes me wonder whether any of their budget numbers can even be
trusted.
This budget continues the Republican war on the environment. The
President and Republicans will try to sound like they are
environmentalists, but the truth is in this budget which contains
drastic cuts to major environmental protection programs. This budget
cuts discretionary environmental spending by $900 billion below 2004
levels. My Republican colleagues would rather give tax breaks to their
fat cat friends than invest in clean water and cleaning up toxic waste
sites.
In addition, this budget does nothing to protect the Social Security
trust fund, five years from when the first of the baby boomer
generation reach retirement age. These Republicans' fiscal
mismanagement will squander the entire $1 trillion Social Security
surplus, adding to the ballooning deficit and throwing the long term
economic security of millions of Americans into doubt.
For education, No Child Left Behind is already dramatically under
funded and this budget will continue this disgrace. We cannot leave the
states to pick up the tab for this federally mandated program. Special
education, after school programs, teacher training, Pell grants,
Perkins loans, and vocational education are all either frozen or cut
under this draconian budget. I wonder if my colleagues on the other
side of the aisle are trying to ensure that public schools fail so they
can privatize the entire system?
We need to get back to fiscal responsibility and get the nation's
economy back on track before this economic crisis gets even further out
of control. We need to take care of our veterans, our children and our
environment. We need to ensure that our citizens have healthcare and
education and opportunities. This conference report is nothing but a
sham and I urge my colleagues to reject it.
Mr. LANGEVIN. Mr. Speaker, today I rise in opposition to the
conference report on S. Con. Res. 95, the Republican budget.
Rhode Islanders are facing challenges on many fronts, and the budget
resolution gave us an opportunity to address many of them, including
education, health care, and housing shortfalls. Instead, Republicans
chose to continue borrowing money from future generations to pay for
their failed fiscal policies that have left the economy more than two
million jobs lighter since the beginning of the current Administration.
Under the Republican budget, the obstacles we face today will only grow
in the coming years.
Although I did not believe it possible, the conference report before
us today is actually less fiscally responsible than the budget which
barely passed this House in March by a razor thin margin of 215-212. As
a member of the Select Committee on Homeland Security and the Armed
Services Committee, I understand the unprecedented challenges our
nation is facing at home and abroad. All of us want to ensure that our
troops have all the resources needed to protect us and themselves at
home and abroad. Both the physical and economic security of our
families are at stake. Working within this framework, the Republican
leadership could have negotiated a bipartisan compromise that both
parties could support, but instead continued down an ideological path
without reaching out to Democrats.
This budget has too many shortfalls to list, so I will just cite a
few of the most egregious problems. For the first time in more than two
decades, the budget conference report fails to specify multi-year
policy numbers. By providing the costs for only a single year of
programs and policies, the budget provides no plan to reduce the
deficit and no commitment that critical resources for defense, homeland
security, education, health care, veterans, and other priorities will
be available in future years. The absence of meaningful numbers beyond
the first year masks the true consequences of Republican priorities.
In addition, this budget automatically raises the debt limit by
nearly $700 billion, to $8.1 trillion. There will be no further debate
or votes on this crucial issue that affects the pocketbooks of every
American. At a time when the CBO anticipates a budget deficit of more
than $400 billion, Congress must make the difficult decisions to return
our budget to balance, but the Republicans failed to do so.
Finally, the budget rejects legitimate Pay-As-You-Go enforcement
rules to keep the
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budget deficit in check. The PAYGO rules would ensure that the
government does not increase spending or cut taxes unless these changes
would not add to the deficit. PAYGO rules fueled the unprecedented
economic and job growth during the 1990s, but the budget before us
chooses irresponsible deficits over fiscal restraint.
Deficit spending has stymied job growth and is plaguing our economy.
We are facing a record deficit with no plan to return the budget to
balance. No Rhode Islander would write a check without sufficient funds
to cash that check. Neither should the government.
I urge my colleagues to join me in opposing the Republican budget and
working towards a bipartisan, fiscally responsible plan.
Mr. NUSSLE. Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Simpson). Without objection, the
previous question is ordered on the conference report.
There was no objection.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the conference report.
Pursuant to clause 10 of rule XX, the yeas and nays are ordered.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--yeas 216,
nays 213, not voting 5, as follows:
[Roll No. 198]
YEAS--216
Aderholt
Akin
Bachus
Baker
Ballenger
Barrett (SC)
Bartlett (MD)
Barton (TX)
Bass
Beauprez
Bereuter
Biggert
Bilirakis
Bishop (UT)
Blackburn
Blunt
Boehlert
Boehner
Bonilla
Bonner
Bono
Boozman
Bradley (NH)
Brady (TX)
Brown (SC)
Brown-Waite, Ginny
Burgess
Burns
Burr
Burton (IN)
Buyer
Calvert
Camp
Cannon
Cantor
Capito
Carter
Castle
Chabot
Chocola
Coble
Cole
Collins
Cox
Crane
Crenshaw
Cubin
Culberson
Cunningham
Davis, Jo Ann
Davis, Tom
Deal (GA)
DeLay
DeMint
Diaz-Balart, L.
Diaz-Balart, M.
Doolittle
Dreier
Duncan
Dunn
Ehlers
Emerson
English
Everett
Feeney
Ferguson
Flake
Foley
Forbes
Fossella
Frelinghuysen
Gallegly
Garrett (NJ)
Gibbons
Gilchrest
Gillmor
Gingrey
Goodlatte
Goss
Granger
Graves
Green (WI)
Greenwood
Gutknecht
Hall
Harris
Hart
Hastert
Hastings (WA)
Hayes
Hensarling
Herger
Hobson
Hoekstra
Houghton
Hulshof
Hunter
Hyde
Isakson
Issa
Istook
Jenkins
Johnson (CT)
Johnson (IL)
Johnson, Sam
Keller
Kelly
Kennedy (MN)
King (IA)
King (NY)
Kingston
Kirk
Kline
Knollenberg
Kolbe
LaHood
Latham
LaTourette
Lewis (CA)
Lewis (KY)
Linder
LoBiondo
Lucas (OK)
Manzullo
McCotter
McCrery
McHugh
McInnis
McKeon
Mica
Miller (FL)
Miller (MI)
Miller, Gary
Moran (KS)
Murphy
Musgrave
Myrick
Nethercutt
Neugebauer
Ney
Northup
Norwood
Nunes
Nussle
Osborne
Ose
Otter
Oxley
Pearce
Pence
Peterson (PA)
Petri
Pickering
Pitts
Platts
Pombo
Porter
Portman
Pryce (OH)
Putnam
Quinn
Radanovich
Ramstad
Regula
Rehberg
Renzi
Reynolds
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
Rogers (MI)
Rohrabacher
Ros-Lehtinen
Royce
Ryan (WI)
Ryun (KS)
Saxton
Schrock
Sensenbrenner
Sessions
Shadegg
Shaw
Shays
Sherwood
Shimkus
Shuster
Simpson
Smith (MI)
Smith (TX)
Souder
Stearns
Sullivan
Sweeney
Tancredo
Taylor (NC)
Terry
Thomas
Thornberry
Tiahrt
Tiberi
Toomey
Turner (OH)
Upton
Vitter
Walden (OR)
Walsh
Wamp
Weldon (FL)
Weldon (PA)
Weller
Whitfield
Wicker
Wilson (NM)
Wilson (SC)
Wolf
Young (AK)
Young (FL)
NAYS--213
Abercrombie
Ackerman
Alexander
Allen
Andrews
Baca
Baird
Baldwin
Becerra
Bell
Berkley
Berman
Berry
Bishop (GA)
Bishop (NY)
Blumenauer
Boswell
Boucher
Boyd
Brady (PA)
Brown (OH)
Brown, Corrine
Capps
Capuano
Cardin
Cardoza
Carson (IN)
Carson (OK)
Case
Chandler
Clay
Clyburn
Conyers
Cooper
Costello
Cramer
Crowley
Cummings
Davis (AL)
Davis (CA)
Davis (FL)
Davis (IL)
Davis (TN)
DeFazio
DeGette
DeLauro
Deutsch
Dicks
Dingell
Doggett
Dooley (CA)
Doyle
Edwards
Emanuel
Engel
Eshoo
Etheridge
Evans
Farr
Fattah
Filner
Ford
Frank (MA)
Franks (AZ)
Frost
Gephardt
Gerlach
Gonzalez
Goode
Gordon
Green (TX)
Grijalva
Gutierrez
Harman
Hastings (FL)
Hefley
Hill
Hinchey
Hinojosa
Hoeffel
Holden
Holt
Honda
Hooley (OR)
Hostettler
Hoyer
Inslee
Israel
Jackson (IL)
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Jefferson
John
Johnson, E. B.
Jones (NC)
Jones (OH)
Kanjorski
Kaptur
Kennedy (RI)
Kildee
Kilpatrick
Kind
Kleczka
Kucinich
Lampson
Langevin
Lantos
Larsen (WA)
Larson (CT)
Lee
Levin
Lewis (GA)
Lipinski
Lofgren
Lowey
Lucas (KY)
Lynch
Majette
Maloney
Markey
Marshall
Matheson
Matsui
McCarthy (MO)
McCarthy (NY)
McCollum
McDermott
McGovern
McIntyre
McNulty
Meehan
Meek (FL)
Meeks (NY)
Menendez
Michaud
Millender-McDonald
Miller (NC)
Miller, George
Mollohan
Moore
Moran (VA)
Murtha
Nadler
Napolitano
Neal (MA)
Oberstar
Obey
Olver
Ortiz
Owens
Pallone
Pascrell
Pastor
Paul
Payne
Pelosi
Peterson (MN)
Pomeroy
Price (NC)
Rahall
Rangel
Reyes
Rodriguez
Ross
Rothman
Roybal-Allard
Ruppersberger
Rush
Ryan (OH)
Sabo
Sanchez, Linda T.
Sanchez, Loretta
Sanders
Sandlin
Schakowsky
Schiff
Scott (GA)
Scott (VA)
Serrano
Sherman
Simmons
Skelton
Slaughter
Smith (NJ)
Smith (WA)
Snyder
Solis
Spratt
Stark
Stenholm
Strickland
Stupak
Tanner
Tauscher
Taylor (MS)
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Tierney
Towns
Turner (TX)
Udall (CO)
Udall (NM)
Van Hollen
Velazquez
Visclosky
Waters
Watson
Watt
Waxman
Weiner
Wexler
Woolsey
Wu
Wynn
NOT VOTING--5
Ballance
Delahunt
Hayworth
Leach
Tauzin
Announcement by the Speaker Pro Tempore
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. LaTourette) (during the vote). Members
are advised there are 2 minutes remaining in this vote.
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Mr. SERRANO and Mr. GERLACH changed their vote from ``yea'' to
``nay.''
Mr. HOBSON and Mr. BACHUS changed their vote from ``nay'' to ``yea.''
So the conference report was agreed to.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
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