[Congressional Record Volume 150, Number 41 (Monday, March 29, 2004)]
[Senate]
[Pages S3256-S3278]
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PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY AND INDIVIDUAL DEVELOPMENT FOR EVERYONE ACT--
Continued
The ACTING PRESIDENT pro tempore. The Senate will continue
consideration of H.R. 4.
The Senator from Iowa.
Mr. GRASSLEY. Mr. President, today we begin debate on what the public
at large would refer to as a welfare reform bill, a bill that would
build upon very major changes that were made after 60 years of the
previous welfare legislation that did not accomplish its goals to one
now where we have had an opportunity since 1996 to move people from
welfare to work.
The public at large and sometimes even I refer to this legislation as
welfare reform, but our legislation is entitled ``The Personal
Responsibility and Individual Development for Everyone Act.'' If you
hear us use the acronym P-R-I-D-E, PRIDE, this is the legislation that
is before the Senate. I am very happy that we are finally able to
consider this legislation.
Going back to 1996, after years of debate and even after two vetoes
by President Clinton, we finally had a Republican Congress pass, and a
Democratic President sign, the Personal Responsibility and Work
Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996. I emphasize that because the
issue of welfare is highly charged politically. When you are going to
make major changes, as we did in 1996, it takes bipartisanship to
accomplish those changes. That bipartisanship was between Democratic
President Clinton and a Republican-controlled Congress.
The enactment of welfare reform ended the entitlement aspect of
welfare, the cash assistance part of it. The impetus for welfare reform
was generated by a number of factors, including public sentiment that
the welfare system needed overhauling. When campaigning for President,
President Clinton promised, in his words, ``to end welfare as we know
it.'' For the Republicans, during the campaign for Congress in 1994
when the Contract With America was the watch word of Republicans,
welfare reform was a key part of that. So we had a President promising
to end welfare as we know it, we had Republicans putting it in their
Contract With America, and, finally, after 2 years, the legislation was
passed at that time.
I would categorize the PRIDE legislation as moving on and fine-tuning
that basic underlying legislation which has sunset. The sunset was in
the 1996 legislation. When legislation sunsets, it must be reenacted by
the Congress of the United States or that part of the code goes off the
books.
Quite honestly, there are Americans who have needs. There is still
need for
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assistance, but the goal of that assistance is still as it has always
been: to move people from welfare to work.
In the years leading up to the enactment of welfare reform in 1996,
the AFDC roles soared and costs increased. From 1988 through 1992,
welfare spending increased by billions of dollars. The welfare system
was attributed by many to contributing to a culture of isolation and
dependence, persisting from one generation to another. Despite dire
predictions to the contrary, the reforms in the 1996 act have produced
very positive results.
The welfare caseload has dropped dramatically. Between fiscal year
1997 and fiscal year 2002, the average monthly number of welfare
recipients fell by 5.8 million or 53 percent of the previous high.
Child poverty has also been reduced. Between 1996 and 2001, the
national child poverty rate fell by 20 percent. This decline is even
more marked for certain groups. We see the African-American children
poverty rate dropping from nearly 40 percent to 30 percent, the lowest
rate on record.
The Hispanic child poverty rate dropped from just slightly over 40
percent to 28 percent, the largest 5-year drop on record.
Employment rates of adult recipients has increased. In fiscal year
2001, 27 percent of the adult recipients were employed, rising to about
2.4 times the 1996 employment rate of 11 percent.
These reforms all stemmed from a work-first approach that emphasized
an adult's attachment to the workforce. I believe we should continue
and this legislation does build upon a work-first approach, and yet the
need for reform continues.
There are key provisions in the 1996 act which have not yielded the
desired results. Additionally, there are further reforms which should
be enacted, things that we have learned from the 1996 act, and we are
fine-tuning the present legislation through this legislation before us.
As an example, the 1996 bill envisions a contingency fund which would
provide additional matching grants to needy States during economic
downturns.
However, during the recent recession, the first real test of the
contingency fund, no State was able to access the contingency fund.
This is because States must raise their own spending considerably
during a recession to meet the contingency fund State spending
requirements.
I am sure it was not the intent of the authors of the 1996 bill to
make the contingency fund inaccessible. The PRIDE bill before the
Senate includes provisions which would liberalize the contingency fund
to make it more accessible to needy States and to help more citizens of
their States who have the need.
Another example would be the work participation rate. The 1996
welfare reform bill envisioned a participation rate of 50 percent by
2002. However, because of the way the caseload reduction credit has
worked, many States have a marginal or even nonexistent work
participation requirement, meaning they are meeting the requirements of
existing Federal law without putting one more person from the welfare
rolls into the payrolls. The fact that the caseload reduction credit
has effectively neutralized the work participation rate requirement is
then a fundamental flaw in this 1996 law that PRIDE corrects.
The PRIDE bill does, in fact, correct this by replacing the caseload
reduction credit with an employment credit. To ensure that the credit
does not undermine the work participation rate, the credit would have a
phased-in cap. Many have advocated that there needs to be a stronger
message sent to States on the value of education as a means of getting
out of poverty. Some have also indicated the need for increased child
care funding, as well as needed improvements to child support and
enforcement policies.
The PRIDE legislation before the Senate increases opportunities for
education, opportunities for training, as well as support for the
families by increased funding for child care. Additionally, the PRIDE
bill provides child support enhancements with more child support going
to families. These reforms are a critical means that help families get
off and stay off of welfare.
Two of the four purposes of the 1996 welfare act dealt with
strengthening two-parent families. So far, very few States have taken
the opportunity to develop and to implement innovative programs and
policies to address the issues of healthy two-parent marriages, even
though the 1996 law is very flexible on how that is to be done--
obviously too flexible from the standpoint of it being a requirement
that the State ought to meet.
I strongly support marriage promotion activities as a means of
improving child well-being. Let nobody in this body or outside this
body say there is anything in this language that has anything to do
with forcing people into the institution of marriage. Well short of
that, this legislation does and should do things to emphasize the
importance of people who are in a married relationship, that they are
less apt to be on welfare than families who are single parent.
This legislation provides funding for healthy marriage promotion
activities, as well as research, demonstrations and technical
assistance to States in developing effective programs. Thus, while the
1996 act made significant reforms, there remains more that should be
done to strengthen the current welfare delivery system. Those reforms
are included in the PRIDE bill now before the Senate.
Recognizing the improvements that the 1996 reforms made, our Senate
Finance Committee began deliberations by working off of current law and
improving it with priorities identified by Senators on and off the
Finance Committee, as well as ideas that are coming from President
Bush's administration.
The Senate Finance Committee deliberations in many ways continued the
work done in the 107th Congress on the issues of welfare reform. As
Members know, the bill that then-Chairman Baucus produced in the second
half of the 107th Congress, which went by the acronym WORK bill, was
based on the so-called tripartisan agreement at that time. This
tripartisan agreement was a series of policy agreements reached by
Senators Breaux, Rockefeller, Lincoln, and Jeffords from the Democratic
caucus, and Senators Hatch and Snowe from the Republican caucus. These
Members, along with then-Chairman Baucus, continued to play strong and
important leadership roles on the Finance Committee relative to welfare
reform.
I had a chance to review the work of the last Congress, which was the
tripartisan agreement, and I noted similarities between what the
tripartisan group proposed, what the PRIDE Act before us has in it, and
also the House-passed bill that passed early last year. That House-
passed bill is largely based upon President Bush's proposal for welfare
reform. I refer my colleagues to the various charts that I am going to
put before them now, which highlight the many areas of common ground
between last year's WORK bill and the House bill, and the PRIDE bill by
which the present title is before the Senate. Admittedly, not all the
details are exactly the same, but as my colleagues will see from these
charts, there is a great deal of common ground between these three
bills. I think it is important to emphasize the similarities because
too often on the Senate floor we have emphasis upon disagreements.
This common ground is building upon the bipartisanship that took
place in 1996 to move us to the present program.
There is common ground regarding keeping what works from the 1996
reform bill. Going down the chart from top to bottom, all three bills
maintain the basic block grant, continue the policy of no individual
entitlement to assistance, and retain the lifetime 5-year time limit.
Both the bill of Senator Baucus, of last session, and the legislation
now before the Senate would maintain current sanction policy. The PRIDE
bill continues to allow for 12 months of education and training, while
the House bill scales that back to 4 months and the bill of Senator
Baucus would have increased that to 24 months.
Additionally, both the WORK bill and the PRIDE bill would maintain
the current list of core work and work readiness activities, although
the WORK bill would allow 8 weeks to be spent in job research.
Now we have a chart that deals with improving State flexibility.
Before I describe what is on this chart, we have had a great deal of
emphasis upon letting States use this Federal legislation
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with some degree of flexibility. Frankly, it is very difficult for us
to pour a mold in Washington called welfare reform and have it fit all
50 States exactly the same way. What it might take for the State of
Iowa to meet the needs of a welfare family in Waterloo, IA, might be
entirely different than in New York City. If you try to solve it in
exactly the same way, you are probably going to waste money in New York
or Waterloo or you might not accomplish as much in one city for that
money as opposed to another. So let Albany, as the capital of New York,
or let Des Moines, IA, as the capital of my State--let the legislators
there and administrators there fit this to meet their various needs.
I want to point, though, to the common ground in terms of improving
State flexibility. Again, I am referring to the three proposals: The
Senate bill from the last Congress, the Senate bill from this Congress,
and the House-passed bill that is now in the Senate for our
consideration. All three proposals would allow for adults on
assistance, with barriers to work, to engage in activities designed to
address those barriers and allow those barrier removal activities to
count toward a State work requirement for 3 months, provide for
increased access to emergency or contingency funds during an economic
downturn, and allow States to use their unobligated balances or
carryover funds for any welfare-related purpose. That would include
child care, whereas currently States can only use these funds for cash
assistance. We give States much more flexibility to meet their needs
because they know their needs better than we do.
Both the Senate bill of the 107th Congress as well as the Senate bill
of the 108th Congress would allow for an additional 3 months of barrier
removal activities if combined with work. Both the WORK bill and the
PRIDE bill include a provision allowing States to count longer duration
postsecondary education towards their work requirement. This is a
provision patterned after the State of Maine's Parents as Scholars
Program.
We also have common ground between these three pieces of legislation
on strengthening work requirements and leading people into the world of
work. For 60 years we put welfare recipients out of sight, out of mind,
out to the edges of society, guaranteeing a life of poverty. What we
started doing in 1996, and we intend to continue to do through this
legislation, is move people from the world of welfare to the world of
work. The motivation behind that is you have to be in the world of work
to have a chance to move up the economic ladder. You cannot move up the
economic ladder in the world of welfare. But where there are 138
million Americans in the world of work, that is where we need to have
as many welfare recipients as we can so they can move out of poverty.
No child should be sentenced to a life of poverty, and I think we are
showing in the 1996 legislation, which we are now refining, that this
helps people move up the economic ladder. At least there is opportunity
to move up the economic ladder where there is no opportunity to do that
if you are relying on a welfare check.
I want to again emphasize there is common ground relative to
strengthening the work requirement. All three bills would increase a
State's required participation rate, raise the time spent in core or
priority activities, as well as assign partial credit for hours below
the standard. The PRIDE bill and the House bill would raise the
standard hour. The PRIDE bill and the WORK bill would replace the
caseload reduction credit with an employment credit based on
legislation introduced by the Senator from Arkansas, Mrs. Lincoln.
There is common ground on promoting healthy families. All three bills
would provide for universal engagement of improved child support
provisions, healthy marriage grants, as well as for responsible
fatherhood grants. Both the WORK and the PRIDE bills would extend
transitional medical assistance for 5 years, with program
simplification that was authored by Senator Breaux of Louisiana.
It would allow for caregiving for a disabled child to count as work,
and would require States to develop presanction review policies.
I have worked very hard to make sure that this is a bipartisan
product. I have also been continually mindful of concerns raised by
Democratic colleagues that they have about this provision. In areas
where we differ, I am more than happy to let the Senate work its will,
and there are outstanding issues. There are key differences between
last year's Senate Finance Committee bill and this year's Senate
Finance Committee bill. In my opinion, the most significant ones are
the level of child care funding available for States, about which there
is going to be an amendment that we are going to be dealing with
shortly. Another one would be 24 months versus 12 months of allowable
education and training. Another one would be eligibility for legal
immigrants, for welfare, Medicaid, and the children's health insurance
program. Another one would be continuation of the expired State aid to
families of dependent children waiver; and, fifth, the standard hours
for calculating a State's work participation rate.
I am also aware there are Members who may wish to consider provisions
increasing the work requirement by broadening the family's account
toward the participation rate as well as increasing the standard hour.
Additionally, I have had Members tell me they want to consider
amendments requiring States to pose a full check sanction on adults who
fail to comply with their self-sufficiency plans.
These are all things to which the Senate is entitled, guaranteed, to
have a healthy debate on. These are things that will be settled on the
floor of the Senate, if people want to pursue these differences of
opinion.
However, at this point I want to spend some time discussing the
issues surrounding the work requirement in PRIDE, specifically the
issue of work hours for individuals receiving assistance. I want to
clarify, first of all, something for the record. There is no Federal
hour requirement on an adult receiving assistance.
I want to say that another way.
The Federal Government cannot make an individual welfare recipient
work 40 hours or 30 hours or 1 hour. Just as there is no longer an
individual entitlement to welfare, there is no individual requirement
for work hours. As the great baseball leader Casey Stengel used to say,
Look it up.
There is a Federal requirement on the States to engage welfare
clients in a variety of meaningful activities in order to meet a
Federal work participation rate, and there are severe penalties on
States for failure to meet the Federal work participation rate.
Currently, in order for a State to count an adult recipient toward
the calculation of that State's work requirement, that adult must be
engaged in priority work or work-related activities for at least 30
hours.
As you know, the majority of families receiving welfare don't want to
be on welfare. A recent study by the Mathematica Policy Research
Institute of low-income families in my State revealed that many of
those who ask for assistance ``felt that it sacrifices their
independence and pride to do so.''
In hearings as well as in townhall meetings in my State of Iowa,
adults receiving assistance told me they desire to work. I took at
their word Iowans who spoke to me of their desire to work, and that is
why I have worked so hard to bring a bill forward that would encourage
States to redouble their efforts to engage adults receiving assistance
in meaningful activities and better prepare them to enter the world of
work.
Consider the hypothetical case of Sara, a mom with two kids, who
finds herself in a crisis. A victim of domestic abuse, Sara is trying
to make a better life for herself and her children. To that end, she
moves out of her abuser's home and attempts to find a way to support
her family. Lacking a number of basic skills as well as needing some
counseling to deal with her history of abuse, Sara presents with a
number of challenges and needs welfare to help support her family.
Under current law, States have a limited capacity to deal with Sara's
issues and have those activities count toward a State work
participation rate. Under current law, a State cannot count any
domestic violence counseling that may be offered to Sara toward their
work participation rate.
Sara knows she must work to support her family, so she begins
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looking for work. She spends 6 weeks looking for a job and finally
finds a part-time job as a waitress working 6 hours a day for 4 days a
week. She continues to look for a better paying job for an hour a day
as well as spending another hour a day in counseling provided to her by
her own State.
I think many of us would agree that Sara is doing everything she can
to try to move toward self-sufficiency and that her State by engaging
her in counseling is doing its part as well. However, under current
law, because she is only part time and because a State cannot count her
job search after 6 weeks, and under current law domestic violence
counseling can never count, Sara does not count toward that State's
participation rate, regardless of how hard she or the State make the
effort for her to be in the work force. In other words, you either meet
the 30-hour standard and count or you don't.
Currently, the States report that the majority of adults--57
percent--receiving assistance engage in 0 hours of activity. Clearly,
it is more difficult for States to work with adults who are not doing
anything than to work with an adult working 29 hours and get her
engaged in meaningful activities for another 5 hours.
It can be argued as well that it is more meaningful to help an adult
move from 0 to 20 hours of activity than to move an adult from 29 hours
to 34 hours of activity; but under current law, a State has no
incentive to work with that particular individual. It doesn't give them
credit, to the Federal Government, for doing the State's part under the
welfare-to-work law requirements
The administration's proposal for welfare reform reauthorization--
last year's Senate bill called the WORK bill and this year's PRIDE
bill--allows States to get partial credit for hours below that standard
hour requirement.
As my colleagues know, the standard hour is when an eligible parent
or parents count as ``one family'' for purposes of calculating a
State's work participation rate. Partial credit for hours below the
standard would give States a very strong incentive to work with adults
who may not be ready for full-time employment. I think we can all agree
it is better for these adults to be doing something rather than
nothing, languishing on welfare rolls until the time limit kicks in and
they have to go off assistance, having no skills to go get a job or
skills to support their family.
I have another chart I would like to bring to your attention.
Our PRIDE bill is unique, however, insomuch as the legislation would
establish a series of ``tiers'' where partial credit is assigned along
with a band of hours.
For work or work-readiness activities in the 20-23 hour range, a
State may claim credit for an adult with a child age 6 or older
counting as .675 of an entire family. For hours of 24-29 range, a State
may claim credit for an adult counting as .75 of a family. And for
hours in the 30-33 range, a State may claim credit for an adult
counting as .875 of a family.
The PRIDE bill, consistent with last year's tripartisan proposal,
establishes a separate lower standard hour for parents with a child
under the age of 6 because of the greater need for attention of that
child. However, PRIDE sets a standard hour at 24, whereas the
tripartisan proposal would have continued to set the standard hour for
a parent with a child under age 6 at 20 hours. States can also capture
a modest amount of extra credit for hours above this standard.
As a result of these provisions in the PRIDE Act, the Congressional
Research Service has calculated that overall, the nationwide work
participation rate for States increases from a national average of 29
percent--without waivers--to 41 percent under our PRIDE legislation.
There are some States that have very low participation rates. I have
included a number of provisions specifically intended to help those
States. Additionally, I am willing to work with Members representing
those States on measures we can take to assist those States in making
improvements in the way services are delivered and clients being
engaged in those States.
When we talk about the work hours as they relate to the PRIDE bill, I
think it is important to bear in mind that the significant hour is not
whether it is 34 or 40 or 37, but the significant number of hours is 20
because that is where the partial credit begins.
Additionally, when we talk about the hours in the work requirement,
the important hour again is not 30 or 40, but the important hour is 24
because that is the threshold for core work activities.
Once a client meets the 24-hour threshold for core work activities,
States can count unlimited education, counseling, job search, or other
barrier-removal activities toward the State's participation rate.
So then, we go back to Sara, the young mother to whom I previously
referred, who, under current law--even though she was working 24 hours,
and in counseling, and even looking for another job--did not count at
all toward a State's participation rate and, consequently, would not
get much attention from that State--the attention that is needed to
improve people's economic growth.
Under the legislation before the Senate this year, as opposed to what
current law has been since 1996, Sara would have up to 6 months allowed
in barrier-removal activities, including domestic violence counseling
and substance abuse counseling, that counts toward this State's
participation rate, meeting the requirements of Federal law.
Once the 6 months are up, she has an additional 12 months that she
can spend in education and training.
Once those 12 months are up, if she works for 24 hours a week, spends
an hour a day, 5 days a week, in domestic-abuse counseling, and looks
for a better job for an hour a day, 5 days a week, she then has reached
the point where she counts as one family, where the State recognizes
her as a very significant individual, where the State, by paying
attention to her, is going to get some credit. In other words, under
the legislation now before the Senate, Sara does count; whereas, under
current law, Sara does not count.
During the past 3 years of debate on the issue of welfare reform, I
have heard a number of different perspectives on the best approach to
take for the next phase of welfare reform.
Some have argued the way to go is to increase the time that adults
receiving assistance spend engaged in meaningful work activity. The
correlation between full-time work and increased earnings is
compelling.
Some have suggested that increasing the amount of time allowed for
education and training is more important than increasing the time spent
working. The correlation between increased education and increased
earnings, of course, is compelling as well.
Others believe that encouraging marriage and reducing out-of-wedlock
births would net the best result.
Still others have suggested that increasing State flexibility should
be an integral part of any reform effort.
I firmly believe that when it comes to welfare reform, there is, in
fact, no such thing as ``one size fits all.'' While education may be
the best approach for some, it may not be for others. Encouraging
healthy family formation may be just what one family needs, but perhaps
that approach would not be in the best interest of another family under
different circumstances.
The PRIDE bill takes a blended approach to welfare reform and strives
to find balance among all these perspectives.
The legislation before the Senate increases the emphasis on work and
work-readiness activities, as well as increasing the flexibility for
States to engage adults in education and training activities. The PRIDE
legislation also provides resources to encourage States to develop
innovative family formation programs, while making it clear that
participation in those programs must be voluntary, and the program must
be developed with domestic violence professionals.
I have a chart speaking to the factors that influence poverty rates.
This approach is consistent with the latest research; in other words,
the approach of flexibility--``one size fits all'' not working.
We have a recent policy brief that was released by the Brookings
Institution, and it was drafted by Ron Haskins and Isabel Sawhill. It
is entitled ``Work and Marriage: The Way to End Poverty and Welfare.''
The authors, using Census data and simple modeling, simulate
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the effects of various factors on the poverty rate for families with
children.
The poverty rate for families with children, in 2001, was 13 percent.
Now, surely, everyone agrees that a central purpose of welfare reform
is the reduction of poverty. As this chart clearly shows, the least
effective factor in reducing poverty was to double a family's welfare
benefit. The most effective single way to reduce poverty was to work
full time. Indeed, according to these authors of the Brookings
Institute policy brief:
[F]ull-time work eliminates almost half of the poverty
experienced by families with children.
However, the most effective approach to reducing poverty was a
combination of work, marriage, education, and family-size reduction.
As colleagues can see from this chart, when the blended approach is
adopted, poverty is reduced a staggering 9.3 percent, going from 13
percent down to 3.7 percent.
I find these numbers to be quite compelling. I am pleased that they
reinforce the approach taken in this legislation before the Senate.
I know there are colleagues who have many thoughts on these pieces of
legislation, and we are going to have a very lively debate.
Amendment No. 2937
Mr. President, I send an amendment to the desk for the Senator from
Maine, Ms. Snowe, and ask for its consideration.
The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Sununu). The clerk will report.
The assistant legislative clerk read as follows:
The Senator from Iowa [Mr. Grassley], for Ms. Snowe, for
herself, Mr. Dodd, Mr. Hatch, Mr. Alexander, Mr. Carper, Mr.
Bingaman, Mr. Rockefeller, Ms. Collins, Ms. Landrieu, Mrs.
Murray, Mr. Jeffords, Mrs. Boxer, Mr. Chafee, Mrs. Lincoln,
Mrs. Clinton, Ms. Mikulski, Mr. Coleman, and Mr. Schumer,
proposes an amendment numbered 2937.
Mr. GRASSLEY. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that reading of
the amendment be dispensed with.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
The amendment is as follows:
(Purpose: To provide additional funding for child care)
Beginning on page 255, strike line 18 and all that follows
through page 257, line 2, and insert the following:
SEC. 116. FUNDING FOR CHILD CARE.
(a) Increase in Mandatory Funding.--Section 418(a)(3) (42
U.S.C. 618(a)(3)), as amended by section 4 of the Welfare
Reform Extension Act of 2003 (Public Law 108-040, 117 Stat.
837), is amended--
(1) by striking ``and'' at the end of subparagraph (E);
(2) by striking the period at the end of subparagraph (F)
and inserting ``; and''; and
(3) by adding at the end the following:
``(G) $2,917,000,000 for each of fiscal years 2005 through
2009.''.
(b) Reservation of Child Care Funds.--
(1) In general.--Section 418(a)(4) (42 U.S.C. 618(a)(4)) is
amended to read as follows:
``(4) Amounts reserved.--
``(A) Indian tribes.--
``(i) In general.--The Secretary shall reserve 2 percent of
the aggregate amount appropriated to carry out this section
for a fiscal year for payments to Indian tribes and tribal
organizations for such fiscal year for the purpose of
providing child care assistance.
``(ii) Application of ccdbg requirements.--Payments made
under this subparagraph shall be subject to the requirements
that apply to payments made to Indian tribes and tribal
organizations under the Child Care and Development Block
Grant Act of 1990.
``(B) Territories.--
``(i) Puerto rico.--The Secretary shall reserve 1.5 percent
of the amount appropriated under paragraph (5)(A)(i) for a
fiscal year for payments to the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico
for such fiscal year for the purpose of providing child care
assistance.
``(ii) Other territories.--The Secretary shall reserve 0.5
percent of the amount appropriated under paragraph (5)(A)(i)
for a fiscal year for payments to Guam, American Samoa, the
Virgin Islands of the United States, and the Commonwealth of
the Northern Mariana Islands in amounts which bear the same
ratio to such amount as the amounts allotted to such
territories under section 658O of the Child Care and
Development Block Grant Act of 1990 for the fiscal year bear
to the total amount reserved under such section for that
fiscal year.
``(iii) Application of ccdbg requirements.--Payments made
under this subparagraph shall be subject to the requirements
that apply to payments made to territories under the Child
Care and Development Block Grant Act of 1990.''.
(2) Conforming amendment.--Section 1108(a)(2) (42 U.S.C.
1308(a)(2)), as amended by section 108(b)(3), is amended by
striking ``or 413(f)'' and inserting ``413(f), or
418(a)(4)(B)''.
(c) Supplemental Grants.--Section 418(a) (42 U.S.C. 618(a))
is amended--
(1) by redesignating paragraph (5) as paragraph (7); and
(2) by inserting after paragraph (4), the following:
``(5) Supplemental grants.--
``(A) Appropriation.--
``(i) In general.--For supplemental grants under this
section, there are appropriated--
``(I) $700,000,000 for fiscal year 2005;
``(II) $1,000,000,000 for fiscal year 2006;
``(III) $1,200,000,000 for fiscal year 2007;
``(IV) $1,400,000,000 for fiscal year 2008; and
``(V) $1,700,000,000 for fiscal year 2009.
``(ii) Availability.--Amounts appropriated under clause (i)
for a fiscal year shall be in addition to amounts
appropriated under paragraph (3) for such fiscal year and
shall remain available without fiscal year limitation.
``(B) Supplemental grant.--In addition to the grants paid
to a State under paragraphs (1) and (2) for each of fiscal
years 2005 through 2009, the Secretary, after reserving the
amounts described in subparagraphs (A) and (B) of paragraph
(4) and subject to the requirements described in paragraph
(6), shall pay each State an amount which bears the same
ratio to the amount specified in subparagraph (A)(i) for the
fiscal year (after such reservations), as the amount allotted
to the State under paragraph (2)(B) for fiscal year 2003
bears to the amount allotted to all States under that
paragraph for such fiscal year.
``(6) Requirements.--
``(A) Maintenance of effort.--A State may not be paid a
supplemental grant under paragraph (5) for a fiscal year
unless the State ensures that the level of State expenditures
for child care for such fiscal year is not less than the sum
of--
``(i) the level of State expenditures for child care that
were matched under a grant made to the State under paragraph
(2) for fiscal year 2003; and
``(ii) the level of State expenditures for child care that
the State reported as maintenance of effort expenditures for
purposes of paragraph (2) for fiscal year 2003.
``(B) Matching requirement for fiscal years 2008 and
2009.--With respect to the amount of the supplemental grant
made to a State under paragraph (5) for each of fiscal years
fiscal year 2008 and 2009 that is in excess of the amount of
the grant made to the State under paragraph (5) for fiscal
year 2007, subparagraph (C) of paragraph (2) shall apply to
such excess amount in the same manner as such subparagraph
applies to grants made under subparagraph (A) of paragraph
(2) for each of fiscal years 2008 and 2009, respectively.
``(C) Redistribution.--In the case of a State that fails to
satisfy the requirement of subparagraph (A) for a fiscal
year, the supplemental grant determined under paragraph (5)
for the State for that fiscal year shall be redistributed in
accordance with paragraph (2)(D).''.
(d) Extension of Merchandise Processing Customs User
Fees.--Section 13031(j)(3) of the Consolidated Omnibus Budget
Reconciliation Act of 1985 (19 U.S.C. 58c(j)(3)), as amended
by section 201 of the Military Family Tax Relief Act of 2003
(Public Law 108-121; 117 Stat. 1343), is amended--
(1) by striking ``Fees'' and inserting ``(A) Except as
provided in subparagraph (B), fees''; and
(2) by adding at the end the following:
``(B) Fees may not be charged under paragraphs (9) and (10)
of subsection (a) after September 30, 2009.''.
Mr. GRASSLEY. I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Montana.
Mr. BAUCUS. Mr. President, I begin by thanking the chairman of our
committee, Senator Grassley. He has worked very long and hard on this
issue, and it has been very good to work with him. He has thought a lot
about these issues. He has worked hard to try to find a middle ground.
He wants to get things done, and I deeply appreciate that.
We are here today to reauthorize the 1996 welfare reform law. The
1996 law has actually worked pretty well. I think all commentators
would agree with that statement. In fact, it has worked much better
than people thought it would work. It is not broken. It is not broken
at all. And I think we need to guard against ``fixing'' something that
is not broken. You know the old saying: ``If it ain't broke, don't fix
it.'' I think that applies to the 1996 welfare statute.
As we go forward, we might ask ourselves whether we might do better
simply extending the existing 1996 law. Yes, we could make some
modifications. We would increase, for example, funding for child care
to help parents get to work. But as the Senate considers proposed
changes, we might ask whether it would be better to stick with the 1996
act.
I will spend a little time today talking about the House bill. The
House bill does not stick with the 1996 bill. The House of
Representatives has
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made, frankly, some pretty dramatic changes--``fixes'' to a program
that many of us believe is not broken.
The Senate bill that Chairman Grassley has crafted tries to chart a
middle course. Thus, the bill before us presents an opportunity to
reflect on the lessons we have learned since 1996, and to incorporate
those lessons in the new bill.
We accomplished what we set out to do in 1996, and I am proud to have
played a role in passing that law.
The 1996 welfare reform law was a landmark. The old system had
failed.
We were spending billions, but we had little to show for it. So we
tried something new. We tried, in the words of the introduction to the
1996 act ``to end the dependence of needy parents on government
benefits by promoting job preparation, work, and marriage.''
At the same time, the 1996 act was very controversial. In retrospect,
it is clear that by and large we were headed in the right direction. I
call attention to the chart next to me. This chart essentially tells
the story. It is entitled ``Welfare Recipients as a Percentage of
Population.'' Hundreds of thousands of people have left welfare and
left welfare for work. The number of folks on welfare, as you can tell,
as a percentage of the American population, beginning in 1988, rose up
to its peak in about 1994 and 1995. Then we passed the 1996 statute,
and it has plummeted dramatically.
The next chart shows the changes in welfare recipient caseloads, from
1996 to 2001. It shows that all States have shared in the success. The
caseload reduction has been highest for those States in red, that is
greater than a 70-percent reduction. In States represented by orange,
the reduction in welfare caseload has been between 50 and 70 percent.
And States represented in yellow have a caseload reduction of less than
50 percent but very significant. My State of Montana is an orange
State. Montana reduced its welfare caseload by 56 percent between 1996
and 2001.
The New York Times reported last week that even with the weak economy
we have experienced lately, welfare rolls have declined in the past 3
years in most States. That is, caseloads have decreased even as
unemployment, poverty, and the number of food stamp recipients have
increased.
For example, in the State of Illinois, the number of families on
welfare fell 45 percent since January 2001. In New York, the number of
families on welfare declined about 40 percent since January of 2001.
And in Texas, the number of families on welfare has declined 11
percent, again, in the last 3 years.
I would like now to show another chart. This is the child poverty
rate. The child poverty rate has also declined since 1996, overall by
about 23 percent. As you can see, the child poverty rate in 1988 was
roughly 20 percent. It increased during the 1990s, through 1992, and
peaked around 1993. It has declined very significantly since that peak
in 1993. However, look at the end, 2000 to 2002. It looks as though it
is starting to increase slightly.
But despite our success, there is still more to be done. We are not
out of the woods. Too many troubled families remain on the rolls. Too
many families struggle to raise children in poverty. In 2002, there
were 34.6 million Americans below the official poverty level. For a
family of two, poverty is $12,490. 34.6 million Americans below that
level. Thirty-seven percent of families in poverty are working.
I have another chart. This is the poverty rate. As this chart shows,
1 in 10 Americans still live in poverty. That share has gone up in the
last couple years with the recession, and close to 17 percent of our
children live in poverty. In Montana, 19 percent of all children live
in poverty. Nationwide, 1 in 10 Americans.
Those numbers are simply too high. We must provide better
opportunities for poor families to move off welfare, into the
workforce, and out of poverty for good. As successful as the 1996 bill
has been, these figures show there is more we have to do.
In my view, doing more means focusing more attention on the hardest
cases; that is, on families who face complicated and difficult
challenges. For example, children with disabilities, adults with little
or no education or work skills, people with mental health issues or
substance abuse problems. Those are the hardest cases. We also need to
focus on the single mother with an autistic son who cannot care for
himself after school when she is at work.
We need to focus on families affected by mental health concerns that
limit their ability to engage in continuous full-time employment, and
families who have been hit by a health crisis and need help. Doing more
means building on the partnership we established with the States back
in 1996. It means letting States maintain the flexibility they have
used to design their current successful welfare-to-work strategies. How
does it best work for each State? All States are different, with
different populations, different issues. It means giving States new
options to address especially troubled families. And at the same time,
it means maintaining and increasing help in building the work support
system.
We learned, with the major reform in 1996, that getting a job is not
always a ticket out of poverty. We helped to get people off the welfare
rolls by a dramatic amount, an average of about 50 percent, but still
people who leave are having a very tough time finding jobs. They are in
very dire straits. People find that the jobs pay too little. In
Montana, we have the highest number of people working more than one job
just to make ends meet because we have low wages and a poor economy.
Those families who are just off of welfare are struggling. They need
access to education, to training. They need the opportunity to address
many of the barriers that prevent them from getting a job and keeping a
job, and they need access to benefits such as food stamps, health care,
and child care.
Child care is a huge concern. If you want to make a lasting
difference, we need to provide further help with child care, further
help with health care, transportation, and other things that will help
parents stay off welfare and thrive in the job market.
The success of the 1996 bill should have meant a quick and simple
reauthorization, because we all, both sides, can agree that the law
works. But some want to leave the successful 1996 law behind them and
make dramatic changes. I call this a cut-and-run approach--leaving the
States and, more importantly, low-income families behind. The House-
passed welfare reauthorization bill embodies this cut-and-run attitude.
The House bill would force States to use expensive workfare--or ``make
work''--models of welfare reform, where welfare recipients would
participate in large-scale, unpaid, make-work programs such as cleaning
up trash.
The House bill work requirements would force States to put welfare
recipients into make-work jobs. I mentioned trash pickup. There are
many other examples. Cleaning the streets is good for the streets, but
where does it leave the welfare recipient after the cleanup is over? At
the end of a make-work job, welfare recipients have learned no new
skills, and they are no closer to having a real job.
The House bill would push recipients into make-work programs instead
of real private sector jobs that provide the meaningful work experience
necessary to survive in the job market. States mostly rejected this
one-size-fits-all workfare model years ago. States don't like it. They
know it doesn't work. State and local administrators have told us they
need, more than anything else, a full menu of strategies for the
different needs of individual parents, families, and communities.
The House bill, however, makes it harder to design services and
strategies that meet local needs. And it also fails to provide adequate
funding. As welfare rolls have fallen, States have used freed-up TANF
funds to support low-income working families--often those who have left
welfare to work in recent years. This is common sense and a proven
strategy for success. It works.
For a single mother, providing child care assistance can be the
single most important factor for workplace success. But the lack of
funding in the House-passed bill means States would have little choice
but to shift funds away from programs that help keep low-income parents
working to much more expensive make-work programs for those still on
welfare.
This would be a mistake, as it would force working families to return
to the
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welfare rolls. It would mean cutting and running on those working
families whose success we have been celebrating.
It doesn't make sense to abandon work supports to pay for make-work
activities, but States report that the approach in the House bill would
do just that: it would require States to cut funding for these
successful work support services to pay for large, expensive, and
unproven make-work programs for those remaining on the rolls.
Education and training clearly are critical factors in getting people
into jobs that pay more. In a rural State such as Montana, access to
education and training represents a clear path out of poverty. We need
to ensure that America's needy families have access to such paths. And
States need flexibility so they can provide these programs.
All States are different. In States such as mine, making welfare
reform work means making it work for American Indians. More than a
quarter of American Indians live in poverty--more than twice the
national average. In Montana, American Indians make up a full one-half
of our welfare caseload. We needed flexibility to address that.
I appreciate that the chairman has included provisions to help Native
Americans. But to make a real difference for welfare reform in Indian
country will require real resources.
Tribes need support to operate TANF for themselves and help with
economic development. Our work is not done when there are still places
in America where most adults don't have jobs. Flexibility must be
maintained.
Back in 1996, we asked the States to design a welfare program to
address their specific needs. Some States applied for waivers to do
just that. Those waivers have been a vital aspect to welfare reform's
success. It is important to allow States to continue with their waivers
and to ensure States continue to have flexibility to make welfare
reform work. Dictating prescriptive requirements and unfunded mandates
to States is unnecessary, particularly when so many parents are already
participating in work-related activities.
In sum, the House bill is sure to undermine the success of the 1996
law. It would effectively eliminate the ability of States to employ
proven welfare-to-work strategies, and it would virtually wipe out the
progress made in the last 6 years to use TANF and child care funds to
``make work pay.''
The House approach would force States to divert dollars to make-work
programs. It would thus divert funds from child care, where funds are
needed. Future funding for child care and other work supports would be
harder than ever to secure.
It seems to me that the House program is designed to fail. The House
approach is difficult for would-be recipients to access. And States
will have a hard time making it work. In the prophetic words of one
TANF administrator:
[The House approach] is part of a larger effort . . . to
set unattainable goals for States, so that Washington can
generate budget savings and say that social programs don't
work.
That would be irresponsible. That would be breaking something that is
fixed. Whatever we do here, we need to ensure that TANF continues to
work.
I applaud Chairman Grassley for trying to do better. Compared with
the House-passed bill, chairman's bill has fewer mandates and less need
for States to adopt workfare programs, which I find so reprehensible in
the House-passed bill.
Yet I remain concerned that the bill before us doesn't provide States
with enough new flexibility in areas such as training and education, or
in determining welfare-to-work strategies, particularly in States with
specific needs like rural States. I am also concerned that it doesn't
provide enough child care funding.
During this debate, Senators will offer amendments to address these
shortcomings. An amendment will be offered to increase child care
funding so that parents can go to work. Senators Snowe and Dodd will
offer that amendment today. I believe the chairman already has offered
that amendment on behalf of Senators Snowe and Dodd.
An amendment will be offered on this bill that will allow recipients
to continue their education to gain job skills. Senators Levin
and Jeffords will offer that amendment.
Amendments will be offered making TANF work for immigrants. Senators
Graham and Clinton will focus their efforts on these initiatives. Also,
an amendment will seek to preserve the flexibility that States had
under the 1996 law. Senators Bingaman and Wyden will be offering that
one.
Of course, we should also protect the civil rights of workers and of
children in this law. We should make sure to get the balance right
between State incentives and accountability.
Welfare reform is working. Let's build on that success and build on
our partnership with States. By continuing to work together, we can
achieve a successful bill.
We can strengthen existing programs to address the needs of America's
struggling families. We can give further support to those who have
successfully moved from welfare to work.
Let us not cut and run. Let us not ``fix'' what is not broken.
Rather, let us build on the success of the 1996 law.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Burns). The Senator from Massachusetts is
recognized.
Mr. KENNEDY. Mr. President, I see the prime sponsor of the amendment,
the Senator from Maine. I ask unanimous consent to follow her when she
completes.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered. The
Senator from Maine is recognized.
Ms. SNOWE. Mr. President, I rise today to talk about an amendment
that I know has already been offered to the Senate on the pending
legislation, the Personal Responsibility and Individual Development for
Everyone Act, known as the PRIDE Act.
I am proud to have authored this amendment along with my friend and
colleague, Senator Dodd. Without question, Senator Dodd has been a
fearless and unyielding champion in increasing both the quality of and
funding for child care in America. He has been a tremendous friend to
families and children. I appreciate his dedication and advocacy to
these causes.
It is regrettable that Senator Dodd could not be here today in person
to offer this amendment. As our colleagues know too well, disasters do
occur from time to time in our States, and they understandably take
precedent. He is in Connecticut today addressing issues related to a
major highway accident that closed Interstate 95 last Thursday. This
accident had an enormous impact on the people of Connecticut but also
other States that rely on the interstate for travel or commerce. It is
a loss of billions of dollars. Senator Dodd is working with State and
Federal officials to restore travel in this vital transportation
artery, and today he is where he should be--working on behalf of the
people in his State. I look forward to hearing from him tomorrow on
this amendment.
I also want to recognize and thank Senators Hatch, Alexander, and
Carper, who approached me sometime ago on this vital issue regarding
child care in the welfare reauthorization and a strong desire to work
together to ensure that this issue would be addressed and be given
priority consideration in the Senate. I appreciate their efforts as
well as the commitment and dedication of other cosponsors: Senators
Bingaman, Rockefeller, Collins, Landrieu, Murray, Jeffords, Boxer,
Chafee, Lincoln, Clinton, and Mikulski. I appreciate the fact that they
have made it a broad bipartisan amendment.
Before I explain the amendment before us and why it is such a
critical component of this debate, I, too, want to recognize the work
of the chairman of the Finance Committee, Senator Grassley, who has
been tireless in his perseverance, patience, and commitment to ensuring
that the reauthorization of this legislation would be completed in this
Congress. The fact that we have been able to report this legislation
out of the Finance Committee is in no small part due to his efforts to
make sure it became a reality. I thank the majority leader, as well,
for his commitment to this issue so that we were able to bring up this
bill, finally, for consideration.
Also, I want to recognize the Democratic leader, Senator Daschle, and
the ranking member, Senator Baucus, for their work, along with the
majority leader and Chairman Grassley, who
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scheduled this debate so that, hopefully, we can complete the work on
this reauthorization.
It goes without saying that this day is long overdue regarding our
actions for this reauthorization. We have had six extensions in 18
months after the original expiration of this law.
As we well recall, in 2002, the Finance Committee did pass this
legislation, but, regrettably, it was not brought up on the floor for
Senate consideration. So we have had to repeatedly extend this
legislation, and the States and the caseloads were left without any
kind of specific blueprint for action in the future.
Today, hopefully, we begin the last leg of this journey toward giving
the States their plan of action for the next 5 years with respect to
welfare reform and build upon the successes of the past, as well as
addressing some of the remaining issues that certainly have manifest
itself in the last 5 years with respect to what my amendment will be
addressing.
The bill before us today is predicated on the administration's
proposal which not only strengthens work requirements, but also allows
States to concentrate on removing barriers to employment, giving TANF
recipients up to 6 months during which time they can focus, without
interruption, on becoming more employable, to remove those barriers
that prevent them from being able to seek employment. So that means
they can have the opportunities for adult literacy, substance abuse
treatment, or taking advantage of other educational opportunities, such
as vocational education or technical training.
Moreover, the bill rightly recognizes that some families have longer
term barriers that they must also face and overcome. For example, this
legislation includes provisions which ensure that under certain
circumstances, caretakers for disabled dependents meet the requirements
for obtaining support as well. I thank Senator Grassley for working
with me to include these provisions.
Another example of how this bill will improve the employability and
likelihood of successful transition from welfare to work, the bill
before us today includes provisions based on a widely praised program
that happens to be located in my State of Maine, known as the Parents
as Scholars Program.
We should be able to agree that increased education is another
critical factor in whether a person will transition off welfare, be
able to not only maintain a job, but to secure one that provides a
decent income. That is why I have championed these provisions
repeatedly which will allow a number of qualified, motivated welfare
parents to take part in longer duration and postsecondary education
while on the caseload.
Parents as Scholars has been extraordinarily successful in my State,
with graduates averaging a 50-percent increase in salaries, and with 90
percent of working graduates leaving welfare behind permanently. It is
because of this record of success that I am very pleased that during
the Finance Committee markup, my amendment giving all TANF parents
across the Nation the benefit of accessing this education program was
accepted.
This program, as I said, has been not only successful, but I think it
also ultimately will be widely available across the country because
access to education should not be a question of geography.
This legislation also reflects our desire to afford the States
flexibility by providing partial credit toward a State's work
participation rate when there is partial compliance with hourly
requirements by recipients. I believe this is a commonsense addition to
current law that will fuel this program's success for years to come,
while laying the groundwork for States to help clients become employed
and stay employed, which, after all, was the original goal of the
landmark 1996 reform act.
I thank Senator Lincoln for offering this provision because I do
think it goes a long way to addressing some of the issues that were
raised in the last welfare reform act.
I am very pleased this legislation before us also builds upon the
tripartisan legislation on which many of us on the Finance Committee
worked in 2002. Senator Hatch, Senator Breaux, Senator Jeffords,
Senator Lincoln, Senator Rockefeller, and I included provisions that
now have also been incorporated in this legislation concerning child
support distribution, the employment credit, education and training
requirements, and much of our universal engagement provisions and
adjustments to the contingency fund.
At the same time, this bill also reflects a considerable good-faith
effort to close some of the political and policy gaps that existed
within the committee at the time of the markup. I know many of my
Republican colleagues would have preferred additional workups similar
to what the President had proposed--40 hours instead of the 34--but we
were willing to compromise in order to advance this benchmark
legislation.
It was in the spirit of that compromise that I supported the
legislation in the Finance Committee, recognizing that, yes, I would
have preferred a significantly greater funding for child care, but at
the same time I know there has been some disagreement on this side of
the aisle as to how much we can even afford or should do with respect
to child care funding in the welfare reauthorization. I refrained from
offering that amendment in the committee so that we could have the
opportunity to bridge these gaps on the floor of the Senate and to move
this legislation forward.
The amendment I am offering today will provide $6 billion in new
mandatory child care funding which I think represents an attempt to
guarantee that there will be no structural weaknesses in the PRIDE Act
that may undermine its ultimate effectiveness or success.
I am very pleased that Chairman Grassley gave me the opportunity to
have priority recognition to offer this amendment today that was part
of the agreement we reached in the Finance Committee because I hope it
will set a bipartisan tone for the debate to come.
This reauthorization is critical to almost 5 million people who are
on welfare today. I am convinced it is our duty and our obligation to
do all that we can to clear the political barriers, the policy
barriers, overcome all the obstacles that we ultimately engage in on
the floor of the Senate, but, in the final analysis, we ought to be in
a position to vote on the welfare reauthorization and extend this law.
This $6 billion increase in new mandatory child care certainly should
move us in that direction. I am adding this today because I think this
amount is commensurate with the real and current needs. To understand
how these needs developed and why this amount of funding is essential
is important to understand because as we set out to reauthorize the
1996 law, we have to reexamine some of the decisions and some of the
choices that were made at the time that now has led us to this point
that I think compels us to offer more money in terms of child care.
One of the decisions that Congress made back in 1996 was to ensure
that we would have the necessary support systems to allow welfare
recipients, as they transition into the workplace and access full-time
employment, to have all of the support that is going to be absolutely
vital to make that employment a success, as well as accessible.
These types of assistance to working parents who generally are
employed at minimum-wage jobs allow them to make ends meet and to make
a permanent transition from welfare to work. One of the most critical
types of work support we can offer these families is quality child
care. Without good child care, a parent is left with only two choices:
to leave a child in an unsafe and often unsupervised situation, or not
to work, both of which are lose-lose situations.
If the aim of welfare reform is to move people off the welfare rolls
and on to the payrolls, providing support in the form of quality
affordable child care is a prerequisite to realizing that goal. Of
course, as with anything else, child care comes with a price. In some
States, it can cost as much as a year's tuition in a public college.
Factor in additional costs of infant care or odd-hour care, such as
nights or weekends or care for children with special needs, and the
challenge increases significantly. So for a parent working toward
financial independence, typically earning minimum wage, it is not hard
to see how child care can be the budget
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buster that compels a family to retreat back into welfare.
This battle was also fought by families who are employed in full-
time, lower wage jobs, families not receiving cash welfare assistance,
but who only earn $15,000 to $20,000 per year.
Almost 2 years ago, a constituent of mine came to Washington to
testify before Senator Dodd's Subcommittee on Children and Families.
Sheila Merkinson, a resident of Maine, testified her childcare costs
absorbed almost 48 percent of her weekly income. Even though she is
eligible for aid, she receives no childcare assistance because the need
exceeds the income eligibility requirements in our State.
At that time, Sheila stated she had been on the waiting list for
childcare subsidies 6 months, four of them while she was working, and
sleeping on a couch during that entire time period because she could
not afford to pay the rent on her $18,000 yearly income.
I also remember reading several years ago about a mother in Maine
whose only choice for a steady job was working the night shift at the
local mill. Because she lived in a rural area with no family nearby,
she was forced to choose between losing her job or tucking her
elementary schoolage children into bed at night, locking the doors
behind her, and going to work. Affordable childcare was not a reality
for her and so she did what she deemed was best, to go to work and earn
the money she required to support her children. In the end, the courts
made a third choice for this mother. They took her children away from
her.
We have no rhyme or reason to put people who care about their own
children in untenable situations where they are compelled to make these
unpalatable choices. This amendment will help ensure we can prevent
these types of circumstances so many families face in the real world
today.
These are but two of the life stories that bring me to the point of
offering this amendment and providing the mandatory childcare funds of
more than $6 billion for the next 5 years. These are families who
really are the essence of what this debate is all about.
Back in 1996, as this chart would illustrate, Congress recognized
when we created the TANF program, the Temporary Assistance for Needy
Families, formed the childcare and development block grant, because we
had a myriad of programs that provided various funding streams for
childcare, we had a commitment to serve the families on welfare. That
is why we consolidated more than four programs into the childcare and
development block grant, so that we had a commitment to serve not only
those who are on welfare, those who are transitioning off welfare,
those who were not on welfare but were at the risk of falling onto
welfare caseloads.
Finally we decided we should coordinate and consolidate these
programs to create this block grant with the intent of serving those
low-income families that may be employed but still require some kind of
assistance because of the high cost of childcare. We have this
coordinated development block grant on childcare that is aimed at
serving the needs of each of these populations.
While the Federal law sets the ceiling, the States are able to
determine their own eligibility requirements. Yet according to most
estimates, only one in seven eligible children receives this kind of
assistance. It is not surprising when one considers that in 2003 alone,
nearly every State reduced childcare spending and 16 States reduced
eligibility levels so fewer children would qualify.
Even when our eligibility guidelines are high, most States are unable
to attain them. In fact, according to the 2004-2005 State plans in at
least five States, a family is not eligible for the childcare
development block grant if the family earns more than $20,000 per year.
So clearly there remains a pressing need.
While the focus of this debate is the TANF population, as well it
should be, it cannot be to the exclusion of all of those lower income
families who are not on welfare. I am convinced that access to this
critical work support makes all the difference in a successful
transition from welfare to work, and to help ensure these families do
not retreat back into welfare, and at the same time that we allow them
to achieve self-sufficiency. That is the goal of any welfare reform act
and that is what it should be. According to a 2002 study, single
mothers with young children who receive childcare assistance are 40
percent more likely to be employed after 2 years than mothers who did
not receive such assistance.
The study goes on to say former welfare recipients who receive
childcare are 82 percent more likely to be employed after 2 years than
those who do not receive such support. These findings make sense, as
far too often, for many single parents, unaffordable, unavailable, or
unreliable childcare is the chief barrier to steady employment.
Over the past few years, States have been experiencing unprecedented
fiscal crises which are resulting in cutbacks to crucial services for
low-income families and children. Severely limited resources are
driving States to make some difficult tradeoffs, when it comes to
policies, among equally deserving groups of eligible families. It is
not unreasonable for a State to conclude that TANF families subject to
work requirements in a maximum 5-year time limit or families
transitioning off TANF should get priority over families who have not
received welfare.
However, as a result of these decisions many vulnerable low-income
working families who require childcare assistance will not be able to
support their families and remain off welfare. That is a reality.
The worst-case scenario would be one in which limits on childcare
subsidies for lower income working families begin to act as a
disincentive. Families transitioning off welfare or low-income families
struggling to stay off welfare rolls could easily deduce the effort
simply was not worth it.
In May of 2003, GAO issued a report that suggests this possibility
may exist. It states that a change in priority status can result in
families losing benefits.
For example, in two States, families who leave TANF lose all of their
benefits. In seven States, when a family comes to the end of a State's
transition period, this can result in their losing assistance
altogether.
Considering that childcare for a single child can easily cost between
$4,000 and $10,000 yearly, it is not difficult to understand why a
family affected in this way might have no other choice but to remain on
welfare.
Providing a firm foundation and the tools necessary to make a
successful transition to independence was the promise we made and one
we must honor. So the amendment we are offering to this pending
legislation would fulfill our commitment to the States by increasing
the amount of mandatory childcare funding that is authorized under this
legislation. We can do that today by passing this bipartisan amendment.
I know some would say there is an abundance of funding and that the
estimates of unmet needs are baseless. My response to those critics is
this: Ask the more than 605,000 eligible children on waiting lists in
24 States and the District of Columbia if there is sufficient funding.
Many have argued since there are waiting lists in only less than half
the States, then the rest of the States do not have unmet needs. Well,
this is patently untrue.
The truth of the matter is not every State keeps a waiting list.
Again, they feel it is a fruitless endeavor, because they are elevating
expectations knowing that those expectations simply cannot be fulfilled
because they do not have the funding for childcare. Many States cap the
number of names allowed to appear on the waiting list, again because
they know they will not be able to fulfill their requirements. They do
not want to create the kind of hope among people that they will get the
support ultimately when they know it simply will not be possible.
Consider that if one is a mother residing in California and she went
to the State's welfare office and they told her get in line, she is No.
280,001. How likely is it she will bother to put her name on the
waiting list? If a counselor in New York City told a mother her child
would be No. 46,001, would she take the time to sign up? And even if
she did, would she ultimately get the childcare support she needed? Not
likely.
Another question is: How many childcare slots would be generated by
the $6 billion included in our amendment? We cannot say for certain,
but if we do not provide this funding there
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will be hundreds of thousands of children without any support under
this welfare reauthorization.
We currently have 2 million children receiving child care subsidies.
The Congressional Budget Office has estimated it would cost $4.5
billion to ensure that all 2 million children currently--I emphasize
currently--receiving subsidies will be able to continue receiving that
level of support over the next 5 years, during the course of this
reauthorization. The underlying legislation that is before the Senate
includes $1 billion in mandatory childcare funding which, according to
CBO, may well cover the estimated cost for the new work requirements
and the State participation rates of somewhere between $1 billion to
$1.5 billion of increased child care as they relate to these expanded
requirements under this legislation.
Just to maintain exactly what is in current law for the 2 million
children costs $4.5 billion, and the increase, the new increase under
this legislation, would require another $1 billion to $1.5 billion.
What we are saying is, just given where we are today, we could have
400,000 children removed from the caseload without this kind of money--
400,000 if we do not support the pending amendment.
It is imperative that we pass this amendment to ensure the States
will be in a position to provide the level of support they are
currently providing to these families--just to maintain the status quo.
The legislation of the chairman provides a strong start by adding the
$1 billion to pay for these increased work requirements, but I believe,
Senator Dodd believes, and all the cosponsors of this amendment believe
we should and must do more. The PRIDE Act seeks to build upon our very
successful effort in 1996. We transformed the welfare system as we know
it. It is landmark legislation that was an unprecedented success. We
were able to convert an old entitlement system into a temporary program
that helps our most fragile population take those critical first steps
toward economic self-sufficiency. I believe our amendment strengthens
this effort by ensuring that mothers struggling to move themselves off
the welfare rolls will have the kind of assistance they need in order
to succeed.
The good news is we will be able to do this with the kind of support
that is essential. We have an offset in this amendment that includes
the Customs user fees on merchandise that is processed through Customs.
It is obviously important so we don't have a budget point of order.
Some have said we have used this in the past and most specifically it
is on the legislation that is also being currently considered by the
Senate on the Foreign Sales Corporation Act for international tax
relief for manufacturers. However, that legislation includes up to $130
billion in revenue offsets. We are using $6 billion of the $17 billion
that has been incorporated in that legislation regarding Customs fees.
I believe there will be sufficient offsets to address both that
legislation and this one as well. The amendment we are offering today
builds on the work that has been incorporated in the underlying
legislation that was reported out of the Finance Committee. Like many
of my colleagues on that committee, Chairman Grassley, Senator Dodd,
and all of those who support this effort here today, we are trying to
build upon the major steps that were taken in the 1996 Act, which I
think has made great strides toward helping lower-income families
achieving the American dream and ultimately achieving self-
determination and self-sufficiency.
There is an important difference between giving someone a handout and
offering them a hand up. I believe this amendment to the PRIDE Act
builds upon that distinction. That is why I am so pleased to have the
kind of bipartisan support that has been given to this amendment. I do
believe it is a strong step in the right direction. Granted, it is not
going to address all the demands and needs across America, but
certainly it will go a long way toward understanding and recognizing
the reality that if we don't do this, we leave families and children in
an untenable situation.
I happen to believe this amendment will strengthen our ability to
pass this welfare reauthorization, that the States need to give
guidance and direction for the future. We cannot allow States to live
in statutory limbo and we can't allow families to live in limbo as
well.
I hope this amendment will receive strong support here in the Senate,
reflecting the strong bipartisan cosponsorship of this amendment. I
urge my colleagues to support this amendment.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Who yields time?
Mr. GRASSLEY. Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll.
The legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
Mr. KENNEDY. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order
for the quorum call be rescinded.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. KENNEDY. Mr. President, I know the pending amendment is the
Snowe-Dodd amendment. I join with the Senator from Maine and the
Senator from Connecticut in hoping that the Senate will welcome and
support this amendment. I pay tribute to the Senator from Maine for her
longstanding work in support of child care, and, of course, I commend
my friend and colleague from Connecticut who unfortunately is not here
today but wanted very much to be here today. He will be speaking in
strong support of this amendment during its consideration tomorrow.
As we know, Senator Dodd is the leader on children's issues. A number
of those issues go through the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions
Committee, and all of us on that committee welcome his leadership on
this issue as well many others.
I commend our leaders, and I commend the floor managers.
This will be the first amendment that we will consider. And,
hopefully, it will have strong support. I will take the time at another
time to outline the extraordinary needs of child care in my own State.
But I rise for a different purpose at this time.
I see my friend and colleague from Iowa on his feet. I intend to
speak briefly about the minimum wage issue, and then to offer it not as
a substitute but to get in the queue for consideration of amendments as
we are considering this welfare reform program.
The Senator from North Dakota was here a moment ago and desired the
opportunity to be able to speak. I don't know whether there is any
reason to object. He wanted to have an opportunity to speak for up to
20 minutes, I believe, following my statement. Generally, I wanted to
talk to the floor managers about that, but I didn't have the
opportunity to do so. If there is a Republican who wants to speak after
I speak, then he could be the one who might be recognized after that.
Mr. GRASSLEY. Mr. President, I don't think we have any objection to
that. The only speaker I had on this side who wanted to speak was the
Senator from Tennessee, Mr. Alexander. He wanted to speak for a little
while on the amendment of the Senator from Maine. Other than that, I
don't have any requests on this side.
Mr. KENNEDY. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that he be able
to follow for up to 20 minutes.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. KENNEDY. Mr. President, I listened with interest to my friend and
colleague from Iowa talking about this legislation. And one of the
phrases he expressed was that no one who works in this country ought to
live in poverty. I agree with that. I think one of the best ways of
doing it is to ensure that work pays.
One of the best ways to make sure work pays is to make sure that
those who are on the bottom rung of the economic ladder--those who make
the minimum wage--are going to have a livable wage.
What we know is that we have not increased the minimum wage for some
7 years. As a result of the failure of increasing the minimum wage in 7
years, the purchasing power of the minimum wage has decreased
dramatically. If we are interested in making work pay, we have to make
work pay, and that means an increase in the minimum wage.
At the appropriate time during the course of this debate, we will
have the
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opportunity to vote on an increase in the minimum wage to make the
minimum wage go up from $5.15 to $7 an hour for those families working
40 hours a week, 52 weeks of the year.
Let me share with the Members what has happened to the purchasing
power of the minimum wage. If we go back to 1968, the minimum wage
today would be $8.50 an hour. It is now $5.15. If we look at the
consistency, the purchasing value, it will be $4.98 in the next few
years if we don't act now.
Look at this chart. The minimum wage no longer lifts a family out of
poverty. Look at this red line indicating what a family of three would
need in order to be able to rise out of poverty. In 1968, we were able
to--and, again, briefly around 1980--get the minimum wage up so
families could live outside of poverty.
If you look at the flat line, you will see that the lines are going
down. The poverty line is here. People are working longer and harder
and have difficulty making ends meet.
Every day that we delay the minimum wage, workers fall farther and
farther behind. All of the gains of 1996 in minimum wage increases have
already been lost.
This welfare bill is about workers. It is about moving people from
welfare into work. It is very interesting. Of those single mothers who
moved off welfare into work before the recession began, one-half of
those jobs have now been lost due to the recession. I don't know what
percentage of those people used up all their benefits, but a good chunk
have. I don't know what those individuals are doing, but we do know
that the amount of poverty, child poverty and hunger in the families
across this country, is continuing to go up.
We lose sight of the fact that over the history of the minimum wage,
this has been a bipartisan effort. If you look back over the number of
times this has been raised--10 or 11 times--go back to Franklin
Roosevelt, Harry Truman, Dwight Eisenhower, President Kennedy, Lyndon
Johnson, and President Ford, President Carter, and then it was
President Bush, then it was President Clinton, this has been a
bipartisan effort. Republicans and Democrats alike understand if people
are going to work hard, we ought to be able to make sure they are
treated fairly.
The increase in the minimum wage that we are talking about in this
amendment would mean $3,800 in additional income once it's fully phased
in over the period of the 2\1/2\ years. That would be more than 2 years
of child care; it would be 2 years of health care. It would be full
tuition to a community college for a child who is the son or daughter
of a minimum-wage worker. It would be a year and a half of heat or
electricity for a family. It would be more than a year of groceries,
and more than 9 months of rent. That may not sound like much to many
around here, but those are the facts. It would make an enormous
difference to people who are working.
What we see is 3 million more Americans today are living in poverty.
There were 31 million in the year 2000, and now it is 34.6 million,
which means 3 million more people are living in poverty.
We can do something about that by increasing the minimum wage.
One of the saddest comments that I discovered as we looked through
the various factual material in preparation for this debate is,
according to the Families and Work Institute, three of the top four
things children would like to change about their working parents is
they wish their parents were less stressed out by work, less tired
because of work, and could spend more time with them.
This is a family issue. We hear a great deal in this body about
family issues and family values. Increasing the minimum wage is a
family issue.
Who are these people? Who are these people who earn the minimum wage?
Well, first of all, they are the men and women who work in buildings
all over this country at nighttime from which American commerce has
their offices. In large buildings and small, they work in long,
difficult, tough jobs, but they are men and women of pride. They are
men and women of dignity. They take pride in doing a job well. They are
not only cleaners, but they are also assistant teachers in many of the
schools across this country.
They also work in nursing homes helping to take care of parents--
parents who have served in the Armed Forces, fought in the Korean war,
perhaps even in Vietnam, and maybe going back to even World War II--men
and women who brought this country out of the Depression, men and women
who have suffered and sacrificed to benefit their children. Many
minimum-wage workers work in these nursing homes--men and women of
dignity.
Sixty-one percent of those who receive the minimum wage are women.
This is a women's issue because the great majority of recipients of the
minimum wage are women. It is a children's issue because many of those
women have children. They are single heads of households, and many of
them have children. So it is a women's issue, it is a children's issue,
and it is a civil rights issue because so many of those who work at the
minimum wage are men and women of color.
And, most of all, it is a fairness issue. The issue that is going to
be before the Senate is whether we believe someone who works 40 hours a
week, 52 weeks of the year, ought to have a living wage. And if there
is one issue Americans understand, it is the issue of fairness.
This is about fairness. This issue is about fairness. That is why we
welcome the opportunity to offer this amendment. It should not be a
partisan issue. We should not be denied the opportunity to have the
vote, and we are going to stay after it until we have the vote.
So I wanted to take a few moments on this issue because it is a
matter of such importance. I am going to go over the statistics in
greater degree about what has been happening to women and to children
in poverty in this country. I am going to do that at a time when I will
have the chance to have the full debate for the consideration of this
amendment.
I have the amendment. I indicated to the floor managers that I
intended to offer it. I ask unanimous consent that after the
consideration of the Snowe-Dodd amendment, that the amendment which I
send to the desk now, on behalf of myself and Senator Daschle, be
considered.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection?
Mr. GRASSLEY. I object.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Objection is heard.
Mr. KENNEDY. Well, Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that it be
considered within the first four amendments that we have on this bill.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection?
Mr. GRASSLEY. I object.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Objection is heard.
Mr. KENNEDY. Well, Mr. President, we are beginning to see what we
have seen at other times; that is, on the other side there is
objection. We listened to them talk about how they wanted to have
workers work in this country, and now, evidently, there is objection.
And I do not consider this to be by my friend, the chairman of the
Finance Committee, but there is clearly an objection by the Republican
leadership to get a consideration.
I ask unanimous consent that before we have final passage, we have a
vote, up and down, on this amendment.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection?
Mr. GRASSLEY. Reserving the right to object, Mr. President--and I
will object--I want to take advantage of this opportunity to say that
there are a lot of very important pieces of legislation that we have
before this body that are bipartisan that need to be passed.
Two weeks ago, we had a bill dealing with outsourcing and the efforts
to create manufacturing jobs in America by giving a tax advantage to
manufacturers that manufacture here. It is a bipartisan bill, voted out
of the Senate Finance Committee with only two dissenting votes, and
those were Republican votes. So, overwhelmingly, people on the other
side of the aisle know that bill has to pass.
But time after time we deal with nongermane amendments that distract
from the efforts of this Senate to do things that create jobs in
America and, in this particular instance, move people from welfare to
work.
So I do not think it is wrong for some of us to take exception to the
efforts to stall important pieces of legislation getting through this
body, and that is why I object.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Objection is heard.
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Mr. KENNEDY. Mr. President, since the Senator from Iowa has talked
about delaying the legislation, I ask unanimous consent that the debate
on the minimum wage amendment be no more than 20 minutes, with 10
minutes to each side, and that we have consent that we vote on this
amendment up and down before final passage--that we have 20 minutes on
the amendment, since there has been the thought that we are trying to
delay this legislation.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection?
Mr. GRASSLEY. I object.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Objection is heard.
Mr. KENNEDY. Mr. President, I remind my good friend--and he is my
friend--about the report from the Finance Committee. If we go to page
4: ``STRENGTHENS WORK''--``STRENGTHENS WORK.'' This bill is about work.
And here we are asking for a minimum wage. To do what? To work.
What is possibly the reason or the justification to object to us even
considering increasing the minimum wage? What we have here is objection
to even considering an increase in the minimum wage, which is at its
lowest level in history, for 7 million Americans.
They are talking about getting Americans out of welfare into work. We
are trying to make work pay, and there is objection.
Look what it says on page 21:
The Committee bill recognizes that the success achieved by
TANF and Work First programs are a result of a sustained
emphasis on adult attachment to the workforce.
What more could be relevant to the workforce and strengthening work
than an increase in the minimum wage?
I do not know what this objection is. Why does the majority even
refuse us the opportunity to vote? That is what I am asking. Call the
ace an ace. What is the objection to having accountability, to find out
if you are for it or against it? We are giving a 20-minute time limit,
10 minutes on each side. I will take 5 minutes. I will take 2 minutes.
I will take 1 minute, then call the roll.
What can possibly be the objection to calling the roll when we have
increased it 11 times under Republican and Democratic administrations
in the past?
Where is the delay tactic? Where is the objection? Where is the fact
that this is not relevant to the substance at hand? This, of course, is
the substance at hand. Of course it is. It is about making sure that
people who work hard--men and women of dignity--are going to be able to
receive a livable wage. And we are denied--at least at the outset--the
opportunity to even have this amendment considered.
I say to the Senator, this amendment ought to be voice-voted this
afternoon. That is what it should be: It should be voice-voted.
Republicans, in the history of the minimum wage, have voted for
increases in it, and now we have instructions--evidently,
instructions--not to permit even a short time limit on increasing the
minimum wage: No, you can't vote on that issue. We are not going to let
you. We control the Senate.
We heard from the Senator from Iowa: We want no one who works to have
to live in poverty. I remember listening to the Senator from Iowa just
about an hour and a half ago: No one who works ought to live in
poverty. He gave that speech. Now he will not even let us do something
about getting people out of poverty. He objects to us having it within
the next four amendments--to even consider it prior to the time of
passage, with a 20-minute time limit--refuses.
Talk about arbitrariness and the abuse of power. This is it. This
body ought to be able to vote on questions affecting working families.
We ought to be able to vote on the minimum wage. We ought to be able to
vote on overtime. We ought to be able to vote on unemployment
compensation. What in the world is wrong with the other side to try and
prohibit this institution from taking positions on these issues and to
vote up or down? What were we sent here for?
I say to my friend--and he is my friend--this issue is just not going
to go away. He has given his response that he is going to do everything
that is parliamentarily possible to deny this institution considering
an increase in the minimum wage. He just stated that. He made the point
that it was not relevant, that it was somehow going to delay, that it
was somehow not pertinent, even though we are talking about jobs and
trying to get people to work. That is the thrust of the whole bill. And
he would deny us the opportunity to consider this amendment for 15
minutes, 16 minutes, what we offered.
I think we are on notice now. Are we supposed to assume the majority
is only going to permit amendments which they approve? Is that going to
be the new rule of the U.S. Senate? After 230 years, we are only going
to permit votes which we, the Republicans, approve? That is what we are
saying. Is that the institution the American people thought they had in
the U.S. Senate? Is that what they thought we were doing here? Come on.
Come on. That is not the Senate I was elected to or that I believe in
and that the American people do.
We can either do this nicely and try to work out some kind of
agreement and accommodation or we are going to use all of the other
kinds of parliamentary rules that we know how to use and do it in ways
which will insist on a vote. But if the Republican leadership thinks
that we are going to go on and on and on without an increase in the
minimum wage, I want to clear them of that thought because this is
coming at you. People have waited too long, worked too hard, and
children are being disadvantaged.
I listen to the speeches about children. There are children out
there, sons and daughters of minimum wage workers, whose lives would be
significantly and dramatically advanced. Maybe that parent would be
able to buy a birthday present, take the child to a movie.
But no, no, no, we are the Republicans, and we are not going to let
you vote. We are not going to let you vote in the Senate. That is what
you are saying. Well, we are going to come back to it.
I am going to speak to one other issue, and then I see others who
want to address the Senate. I will then yield the floor.
White House Responsiveness to the 9/11 Commission
Mr. KENNEDY. Mr. President, in my lifetime, there have been national
catastrophes of such magnitude that they are seared in the collective
American memory forever. In each case, the Nation was able to draw on
the strength of its institutions and its leaders to carry on with the
strong support of our citizens. The attack on Pearl Harbor, for
example, plunged us into war, but unified us as a people, and brought
out the best in our elected leaders.
In Watergate, on the other hand, the integrity of our most basic
institutions was threatened by an executive run amok. But the
legislative branch, acting on a bipartisan basis, and the judicial
branch, led by a unanimous Supreme Court, vindicated the Framers' trust
that a nation based on checks and balances and the separation of powers
could survive one branch's abuse of power.
Two and a half years ago we suffered another tragedy of historic
dimensions. In one brief morning nearly 3,000 of our people were killed
by an enemy who had openly declared war against us, had already struck
at us in a variety of forms and places at home and abroad, and had put
our government, if not our people, on notice that they would strike
again.
The families and friends of the dead and injured were not the only
victims. We all suffered. Our peace of mind suffered; our trust in our
surroundings suffered; our liberty to move freely around the Nation and
the world suffered. And our confidence in the public institutions which
protect and defend us suffered.
The quality and integrity of our response as a Nation and as
individuals will determine how history views us as defenders of
America's ideals. Can we restore security without sacrificing liberty?
Can we identify and fill the gaps in our defense against known and
unknown enemies, without reducing the essential quality of life and
freedom in our Nation?
We in Congress have begun to answer those questions, and the 9/11
Commission is a key element of our answer. Over the initial objections
of the executive branch, and with the help and support of the victims'
families, we
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have delegated to that distinguished group of Commission members the
continuation of the essential fact-finding process begun by our own
Intelligence Committees. We have also asked the Commission to suggest
solutions for the problems they identify. We have invested
extraordinary powers in that Commission to meet the extraordinary
demands of their assignment.
This Commission is as eminent and experienced a body as anyone could
hope for. Some have complained that it is too ``establishment.''
It includes two former Republican governors, a former Republican
Senator, a former Republican Secretary of the Navy, a former Reagan
White House Counsel, a Navy veteran who was both a governor and
Senator, a former General Counsel of the Department of Defense and
Deputy Attorney General who sits on a CIA advisory Committee, a former
chairman of the House Foreign Relations Committee, a former member of
the House Intelligence committee, and a former Watergate investigator
now at a distinguished law firm. Its executive director served on the
National Security Council under former President Bush and on the
transition team for the current President Bush.
The Commission is entitled to respect and cooperation from everyone
it deals with in all parts of the Government, especially the White
House.
The Commission has properly chosen to operate in public to the
fullest extent possible. Secrecy will only sow seeds of suspicion and
dilute the Nation's confidence in its independence and its conclusions.
It has done nothing to suggest to anyone that it will not be fair and
just and sensitive to the needs of the individuals and institutions it
deals with. On the other hand it is operating on an extremely tight,
Congressionally mandated, time schedule.
It does not have the time or the inclination, and should not have the
need, to fight in the courts of law or in the court of public opinion
to obtain the information it deserves and the public deserves.
Thus the current controversy over the testimony of National Security
Adviser Condoleezza Rice can and should be resolved quickly. The public
and the Congress should not stand for anything less than full and
prompt cooperation from the White House. For a national tragedy of
these proportions, the buck stops at the White House. Three thousand
people died on our shores and on their watch. There should not be the
slightest question that any White House staff member asked by the
Commission to testify under oath and in public must do so.
As Colin Powell said yesterday, the presumption must be that
everything be done in the open, so that sunshine can infuse the
process.
It is not a question of law; the law fully permits members of the
White House staff to testify.
It is not a question of precedent. As former Navy Secretary Lehman, a
Commission member, said yesterday, many previous Presidents have
permitted such testimony on important matters, and the importance of
the issue here makes clear that this President should do the same.
Surely, 9/11 is more important than Richard Kleindienst's confirmation,
Billy Carter's activities, or who said what to whom about an Arkansas
bank.
Yet in those cases, and many others, top White House officials
testified in public and under oath.
It is not a question of principle. That line was crossed in this case
when the National Security Adviser went before the Commission in
secret. If the White House genuinely believes that the Commission is a
creation of the legislature, she has already subjected herself to the
legislature's inquiries.
As Secretary Lehman has said, it is ``self-defeating'' for the White
House to refuse to allow Condoleezza Rice to testify fully in public.
That course leads to suspicion that they have something to hide.
Mr. Lehman says there is no smoking gun in what she has said in
secret, so unless the White House is afraid she may say something
different in public under oath, why are they holding her back?
It is an insult to Ms. Rice to deny her the chance she says she
wants, to testify in public. She has proven herself an articulate
spokesperson for the President over the past 3 years. Unless the White
House fears that she will disclose some dire secret, she should be free
to respond in public to the Commission's questions, as she has
responded on numerous occasions in press interviews in recent days.
Television interviews are no substitute for answering the Commission's
questions under oath.
There need be no compromise of executive privilege if she testifies,
If she is asked a question that she thinks the President, rather than
she, should answer, she can and will say so, and leave it to him to do.
But otherwise, as Colin Powell also said yesterday, the presumption
ought to be for sunshine, openness, light.
The Commission has also asked unanimously for an appearance by the
President and Vice President in public under oath. They refused and
offered in essence to meet in private for a brief conversation with the
Chair and Vice Chair of the Commission. The public outcry at that
minimal proposal led the White House to suggest some flexibility on the
time, but not on anything else.
The President faces a difficult decision about whether to testify in
public and under oath. He was our leader when 9/11 occurred. That may
well turn out to be a benefit to him in the months to come, but with
that benefit goes a heavy burden. It is his responsibility to answer
questions that only he can answer, admit failings if there were
failings, apologize if apology is called for, and reassure us all that
whatever was broken has been fixed. It will take courage and leadership
for him to step forward, face the Commission, and risk the
consequences.
I urge President Bush, as the Nation focuses on the question of his
own appearance, to remember the example of President Gerald Ford.
One of the most difficult decisions he made as President was to
pardon President Nixon. President Ford had the courage to defend that
decision under oath and in public before a congressional committee. His
pardon was not popular at the time, and it may well have cost him the
presidency in the 1976 election. But he felt strongly that the public
needed to hear from him personally about why he thought the pardon was
essential to the national interest. So he made the truly unprecedented
decision to come to the Hill to testify under oath himself. As he later
said, ``The bigger the issue, the greater the need for political
courage.''
The current White House political staff has chosen a different
approach. They have pressed the attack button on their quick-response
machine in an attempt to destroy Richard Clarke and destroy his
credibility about the events leading up to 9/11 under both the Clinton
and Bush administrations, and the President's Republican allies in
Congress are aiding and abetting this new and obscene example of the
politics of personal destruction.
It is sheer hypocrisy for the White House to encourage Condoleezza
Rice to appear on television to dispute Mr. Clarke's testimony to the
Commission, and then prevent her from presenting her views to the
Commission itself.
Many of us in the Senate will propose a resolution tomorrow urging
that Dr. Rice be permitted to testify in public and under oath. There
will be ample opportunity after that for the President to decide
whether he himself is willing to testify in public and under oath as
well.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Iowa is recognized.
Mr. GRASSLEY. The Senator from North Dakota wants to speak. First, I
ask unanimous consent to speak for 5 minutes before the Senator from
North Dakota speaks.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection?
Mr. CONRAD. Reserving the right to object, and I will not object, I
would like as part of that request that I be given an additional 10
minutes. I think they reserved 20 minutes for me before. I may not take
it all, but I would like to have that amount of time.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection?
Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. GRASSLEY. Mr. President, I want to respond somewhat to the
Senator from Massachusetts.
First of all, I hope he understands this is a Monday--not that Monday
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not just as important as any other day of the week. But it was
announced last week there would be no votes today. His amendment
doesn't have anything to do with votes today, but there are a lot of
Members not here who ought to have some input when a nongermane
amendment comes up. So I object for the reasons of myself as well as
others.
Also, you can see from the debate of the Senator from Massachusetts
that he feels very strongly about the importance of that amendment
which he offers on the minimum wage. There is nothing wrong with the
issue of the minimum wage coming up. But for this Senator from Iowa,
who is chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, with issues I am
trying to respond to in a bipartisan way, and to issues that are raised
as much from the other side of the aisle as they are from this side of
the aisle--I mentioned the FSC/ETI bill of 2 weeks ago. I mentioned the
welfare reform bill this week. There is a bipartisan consensus--maybe I
should not say consensus--there is an agreement we ought to have the
legislation before the Senate and passed. In the face of FSC/ETI, it
was responding as much from the other side as this side that that
legislation to encourage manufacturing in the United States, to create
jobs in the United States ought to pass. When it comes to a vote, it
will probably pass 90-10. But the legislation was held up 2 weeks ago
by people on the other side of the aisle with nongermane amendments.
Now we have welfare reform, sunset last October. We have extended it
two or three times since then, so we have to continue the welfare
reform programs. There is a consensus we ought to deal with this
legislation and get some permanency to our welfare-to-work legislation.
What happened? Right out of the box, people from the other side of the
aisle--legitimate issues or not--are trying to stop legislation
immediately in its tracks that will pass this body by a very wide
margin. Have they ever thought maybe some of these pieces of
legislation ought to stand on their own rather than hooking them onto
bills unrelated to theirs?
I don't object to the issue of increasing the minimum wage. What I
object to is the constant harassment on the part of people on the other
side of the aisle to keeping legislation from moving along very quickly
that everybody knows needs to pass. This is just not Republican pieces
of legislation dealing with welfare reform. It is just not Republican
legislation dealing with encouraging manufacturing and creating jobs in
manufacturing in America. These pieces of legislation are doing what
the Senate ought to be doing to get things done, working in a
bipartisan way.
If you work in a bipartisan way to bring legislation to the floor of
the Senate, why is the other side of the aisle always trying to slow
down that legislation? It seems to me that is what we are dealing with.
There are times to deal with pieces of legislation, but not in this
way, harassing all the time.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Fitzgerald). The Senator from Nevada.
Mr. REID. Will the Senator allow me to ask him a question on the
Senator's time?
Mr. CONRAD. Yes.
Mr. REID. Mr. President, is the Senator from North Dakota aware that
on the 2 amendments that have been offered on the last 2 pieces of
legislation--overtime and now the Kennedy minimum wage amendment--on
our side we would be willing to take 10 minutes on each amendment, 10
for us and 10 for the other side, 10 for us and 10 for the other side,
for a total of 20 minutes on our side of the aisle for these 2 pieces
of legislation. Would the Senator agree the slowdown is not coming from
us, but from them? We are asking for an additional 20 minutes on 2
amendments and we can move on to the rest of the legislation. Will the
Senator acknowledge that?
Mr. CONRAD. Yes. I will go further than that and say I served on the
Finance Committee with our distinguished chairman. I strongly supported
the FSC/ETI bill that was previously before the Senate. An amendment
was offered on overtime. It is entirely reasonable to offer an
amendment. Senators have a right to offer an amendment on any bill at
any time, other than on those bills that are privileged. They offered
to do it on a short time agreement. Now, today, on the welfare reform
bill, the Senator from Massachusetts offered a very short time
agreement on an amendment to increase the minimum wage. It is entirely
reasonable and appropriate for Senators to offer amendments on pending
legislation.
I don't think the Senator from Iowa, who is my friend, and whom I
respect and work with closely on many issues, should feel harassed. It
is not a matter of harassment. These are important issues that deserve
to be voted on. There is no reason not to vote on them, either in the
context of the welfare reform bill in the case of minimum wage, or in
the context of the FSC/ETI bill, which some have called a jobs bill,
with respect to the issue of overtime. Those issues are entirely in
order and reasonable to discuss.
The War In Iraq
Mr. President, I asked for time today not to speak on this issue, but
on the war against terror and the war in Iraq. These issues have come
much more to the public attention as a result of the events of the last
several weeks. As I have watched those events unfold, I have felt more
strongly the need to come to this floor to speak up and to talk about
where I believe we have taken a wrong path in the war on terror, where
I believe we have gotten the priorities wrong.
When we were attacked on September 11, 2001, we recognized we were at
war with a terrorist organization that would stop at nothing, a
terrorist organization that would turn civilian airliners into flying
bombs that would kill nearly 3,000 innocent Americans. The President
and the American people recognized al-Qaida posed an immediate threat
to this country. We agreed that defeating al-Qaida was our top national
security priority, and we vowed to bring Osama bin Laden and his al-
Qaida terrorist organization to justice. As President Bush said in
convening his cabinet at Camp David after the 9/11 attacks: ``There is
no question that this act will not stand. We will find those who did
it. We will smoke them out of their holes, we will get them running,
and we will bring them to justice.''
We had an outpouring of sympathy, good will, and cooperation from all
over the world, as we began the war on terrorism. Today, it has now
been 930 days since the attacks of 9/11. And Osama bin Laden is still
at large.
We have not found him. We have not smoked him out of his holes, and
we have not brought this mass murderer of innocent Americans to justice
after 930 days. In fact, Osama bin Laden and his al-Qaida organization
continue to mount attacks. Just 3 weeks ago, al-Qaida claimed
responsibility for the bombings in Madrid, Spain. Spanish authorities
have arrested Islamic terrorists in connection with that tragic attack,
and al-Qaida continues to threaten further attacks against this
country.
When I saw the news footage of the bombings in Spain and when I heard
al-Qaida threatening more attacks on America, it deeply angered me. I
believe it raises several questions. Most fundamentally, why have we
not, to use the President's words, smoked Osama bin Laden out, run him
down and brought him to justice? Why is Osama bin Laden still able to
threaten our country more than 2 years after we agreed that putting an
end to his threats was our top priority? Why, if his organization has
been disrupted and Osama bin Laden has been isolated, as some in the
administration claim, are Islamic terrorists linked to al-Qaida able to
organize and coordinate significant synchronized attacks such as the
ones in Madrid? How is he still able to produce and distribute these
tapes and messages exhorting others to kill more Americans?
As I asked these questions, it reminded that on April 30, 2001, less
than 5 months before the 9/11 attacks, CNN reported that the Bush
administration's release of the annual terrorism report contained a
serious change from previous reports. Specifically, CNN reported that
``there was no extensive mention of alleged terrorist mastermind Osama
bin Laden,'' as there had been in previous years. When asked why the
administration had reduced the focus, ``a senior Bush Department
official told CNN the U.S. Government made a mistake in focusing so
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energy on Bin Laden.'' In retrospect, that was a shocking misjudgment
of the priorities in fighting terrorism. But I fear that even after 9/
11, the administration has continued its failure to focus on al-Qaida.
A Newsweek article from last fall reported:
. . . bin Laden appears to be not only alive, but thriving.
And with America distracted in Iraq, and Pakistani President
Pervez Musharraf leery of stirring up an Islamist backlash,
there is no large-scale military force currently pursuing the
chief culprit in the 9/11 attacks.
It is not just Newsweek. USA Today reported just this past weekend:
In 2002, troops from the 5th special forces group who
specialize in the Middle East were pulled out of the hunt for
Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan to prepare for their next
assignment: Iraq. Their replacements were troops with
expertise in Spanish cultures.
Mr. President, I want to repeat that because this to me does not add
up. It does not make common sense.
In 2002, troops from the 5th special forces group who
specialize in the Middle East were pulled out of the hunt for
Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan to prepare for their next
assignment: Iraq. Their replacements were troops with
expertise in Spanish cultures.
The CIA, meanwhile, was stretched badly in its capacity to
collect, translate and analyze information coming from
Afghanistan. When the White House raised a new priority, it
took specialists away from the Afghanistan effort to ensure
Iraq was covered.
I find these reports deeply disturbing. We know who attacked us on 9/
11. It was al-Qaida. It was not Iraq. Yet we have top Pentagon and
intelligence officials saying that we shifted resources away from al-
Qaida to focus on Iraq. We have 130,000 U.S. troops in Iraq, but only
11,000 in Afghanistan. What Earthly sense does this make? Al-Qaida
attacked America, not Iraq.
Those 11,000 troops are doing important work in Afghanistan--keeping
the peace and recently renewing efforts to mop up Taliban strongholds
that have been gathering strength. And the administration now has plans
for a spring offensive to go after bin Laden. But according to our own
officials, for most of the past 2 years, we had no large-scale military
force dedicated to pursuing Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida.
So I have to ask, why not? Why was there no large-scale military
force pursuing bin Laden for most of the past 2 years? Why did we allow
our post-9/11 focus on bin Laden to be distracted? Why have we let new
al-Qaida organizations grow up all around the world to attack us and
our allies?
It seems to me the administration's priorities were misplaced. We
allowed our attention to be diverted by Saddam Hussein and Iraq.
Many of us did not believe there was sufficient evidence to justify a
preemptive attack on Iraq in the first place. We believed it was not in
the national security interests of the United States to attack Iraq;
that instead, we ought to keep our eye on the ball and keep the
pressure on al-Qaida and Osama bin Laden because it was they--al-Qaida
and Osama bin Laden--who attacked America on September 11, not Iraq.
We feared attacking Iraq would leave us responsible for occupying and
rebuilding a country in a profoundly dangerous and undemocratic region
of the world, tying down resources we needed to meet other threats,
including Iran, North Korea, and al-Qaida.
We feared that attacking and occupying Iraq would deepen and energize
anti-American sentiment in the Islamic world, helping to fuel
recruitment by al-Qaida and other radical Islamist terror
organizations.
And we feared that a war with Iraq would inevitably slow down our
efforts to capture Osama bin Laden.
In my statement on this Senate floor just minutes before the Senate
voted to authorize the President to go to war in Iraq, I said:
I believe defeating the terrorists who launched the attacks
on the United States on September 11 must be our first
priority before we launch a new war on a new front. Yet
today, the President asks us to take action against Iraq as a
first priority. Mr. President, I believe that has the
priority wrong.
That is what I said moments before the vote authorizing the President
to go to Iraq. I believe it was right then. I believe it is even more
clearly right now.
I also warned:
The backlash in the Arab nations could further energize and
deepen anti-American sentiment. Al-Qaida and other terrorist
groups could gain more willing suicide bombers.
I think we have seen, tragically, that this was true. Our troops in
Iraq are constantly under attack. Our allies, including most recently
the Spanish people, have been victimized by terrorists.
I warned that the cost of invasion and occupation of Iraq could be
extremely high, diverting resources from other national priorities. And
that, too, has turned out to be accurate. CBO now estimates that the
cost of the war and occupation in Iraq will total more than $300
billion.
In just the last couple of days, the American people have learned
that all of these concerns were shared at the very highest level of the
White House. But the President ignored those warnings.
The top counter-terrorism adviser to President Bush, Richard Clarke,
recently published a book detailing his experiences with the war on
terrorism. In it, Clarke writes that President Bush and other top
officials urged him to find a link between 9/11 and Iraq, even though
he told them that there was no such link. He writes that the shift of
focus from al-Qaida to Iraq ``launched an unnecessary and costly war in
Iraq that strengthened the fundamentalist, radical Islamic terrorist
movement worldwide.''
As Clarke put it on ``60 Minutes'' the weekend before last:
Osama bin Laden had been saying for years, ``America wants
to invade an Arab country and occupy it, an oil-rich Arab
country.'' He had been saying this as part of his propaganda.
So what did we do after 9/11? We invaded an oil-rich and
occupy an oil-rich Arab country which was doing nothing to
threaten us. In other words, we stepped right into bin
Laden's propaganda. And the result of it is that al-Qaida and
organizations like it, offshoots of it, second generation al-
Qaida have been greatly strengthened.
These are the words of Mr. Clarke, the former Bush counter-terror
official who has just published a book on the subject. I spent part of
this weekend reading the book by Mr. Clarke. It is entitled ``Against
all Enemies.'' I would urge my colleagues and those who might be
listening or watching to get that book and read it. Whether one agrees
with his conclusions or not, Mr. Clarke is warning and alerting us,
based on a lifetime of experience in four different administrations
over 30 years fighting terrorists, of where we may have gone wrong.
These are lessons that are absolutely essential for us to learn.
Mr. Clarke was not only an official in this Bush White House. He was
also an official, an anti-terror chief, in the Clinton administration.
Before that, he was in the previous Bush administration at a high level
of responsibility. Before that, he served in the Reagan administration.
This is a man of credibility. This is a man of qualifications. This is
a man of deep experience who is attempting to warn us of mistakes that
are being made.
The charges he is making are serious charges. We know who attacked
our country on 9/11. It was not Saddam Hussein or Iraq. It was Osama
bin Laden and al-Qaida. But because the administration wanted to go to
war in Iraq, Clarke suggests, we not only diverted resources from the
hunt for Osama bin Laden and the al-Qaida leadership, we strengthened
al-Qaida and gave it time and space to develop offshoots that will
continue to threaten this country even if we do eventually capture bin
Laden, which I pray we do.
It is not just Mr. Clarke who is making these assertions. Read the
book by Secretary of the Treasury O'Neill. I have read that book, ``The
Price of Loyalty,'' as well. He makes clear the Bush administration, in
its earliest weeks, were focused on attacking Iraq.
So I think we need to ask why we allowed ourselves to be distracted
by Saddam Hussein. We need to ask why we took the focus off of finding
Osama bin Laden and bringing him to justice? And we need to ask why the
President decided that going after Iraq not al-Qaida and Osama bin
Laden--was the priority, and see how that judgment has stood the test
of time.
The President and his top officials made two main arguments for going
to war in Iraq: Iraq was allied with al-Qaida, and Iraq had weapons of
mass destruction that it could use to attack this country. That is what
he told the American people when he was persuading the Congress and the
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people that we should launch a war against Iraq.
In recent days and weeks, the evidence shows we have been pursuing
the wrong priorities. Let us look at what we know now.
On the question of a link to al-Qaida, the polling shows that 70
percent of Americans believe Saddam Hussein was behind September 11.
Over half believe that Iraqis were the hijackers of the planes. Let me
repeat that. The polling shows 70 percent of Americans believe Saddam
Hussein was behind September 11. Fifty percent believe it was Iraqis on
the planes that attacked the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.
The fact is, of course, not a single Iraqi was among the hijackers of
the airliners that were turned into flying bombs. The vast majority of
the 19 hijackers were Saudi Arabians, as, of course, is Osama bin
Laden. Fifteen of the 19 were Saudis. Two were from the United Arab
Emirates, one from Egypt and the other from Lebanon.
Not a single Iraqi was involved in the attack. That is the fact.
However, the American people believe there is a link because again
and again the President, the Vice President, the Secretary of Defense,
and other top administration officials have done everything they could
to link Saddam Hussein and al-Qaida in the minds of the American
people.
They offered up two specific assertions to support this allegation:
One, the Vice President and others in the administration said
repeatedly that there was a link because one of the hijackers, Mohammed
Atta, had met with an Iraqi agent in Prague. But what does the most
recent evidence show?
The fact is, the CIA and the FBI have concluded this report was
simply not true. It was not true because Mohammed Atta was not in
Prague; he was in the United States, in Virginia Beach, VA, preparing
for the 9/11 attacks.
As The Washington Post reported on September 29:
In making the case for war against Iraq, Vice President
Cheney has continued to suggest that an Iraqi intelligence
agent met with a September 11, 2001, hijacker 5 months before
the attacks, even as the story was falling apart under
scrutiny by the FBI, CIA and the foreign government that
first made the allegation.
Second, the President and other top officials said al-Qaida
maintained a training camp in Iraq, but what they did not tell the
American people was that the training camp was in a part of Iraq
controlled by the Kurds, not by Saddam Hussein. The Kurds, by the way,
are our allies. Once again, this is a disturbing bit of information
used in a way that I believe fundamentally misled people.
Yet Vice President Cheney, as recently as last fall, said that Iraq
was ``the geographic base of the terrorists who have had us under
assault for many years, but most especially on 9/11.''
President Bush himself was forced to correct the record just a few
days later, when a reporter asked him about the Vice President's
statement. The President was very clear. He said there is no evidence
that Saddam Hussein was involved in the 9/11 attacks on this country.
Here it is in the New York Times, September 18, 2003, ``Bush Reports No
Evidence of Hussein Tie to 9/11.''
But that did not stop the administration from making statements over
and over again linking Iraq with al-Qaida, and with terrorists more
generally, to create the impression the war in Iraq was part of our
response to the 9/11 attacks and the war on terrorism. As Richard
Clarke, the top counter-terrorism official in the White House during
2001 and 2002, puts it:
The White House carefully manipulated public opinion, never
quite lied, but gave the very strong impression that Iraq did
it.
They did know better. We told them. The CIA told them. The
FBI told them. They did know better. And the tragedy here is
that Americans went to their death in Iraq thinking that they
were avenging September 11, when Iraq had nothing to do with
September 11. I think for a commander in chief and vice
president to allow that to happen is unconscionable.
These, again, are the remarks of the top counter-terrorism official
in the Bush administration.
In fact, it is unlikely there would be any strong linkage between
Iraq and al-Qaida because Saddam Hussein was secular, Osama bin Laden
is a fundamentalist. In many ways, they are mortal enemies.
I graduated from an American Air Force base high school in Tripoli,
Libya--in North Africa--in 1966. Anybody who has lived in that culture
understands very well the deep divisions between those who are secular
and those who are fundamentalists. It is a deep division. But it is as
though our administration in Washington is unaware of it because,
repeatedly, they have suggested the two were tightly linked. In fact,
they were sworn enemies. Who do you think it is we are digging up in
those graves in Iraq? They are, by and large, fundamentalists whom
Saddam Hussein found profoundly threatening to his secular regime.
I think it is time for America to think very carefully about the path
we are going down and to think very carefully about whether the
strategy this administration has adopted is a strategy to secure our
future, or whether there is a better strategy to be pursued.
What we do know is Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida organized the attack
on the United States. That is who is responsible. That is who we should
be going after. Instead, what we are hearing is that military and
intelligence resources were shifted to Iraq, taking resources away from
the search for Osama bin Laden. I have to ask again, Why? Why are we
spending time and energy trying to prove a link with Saddam instead of
spending the same time and energy trying to find Osama bin Laden and
defeating al-Qaida?
The other thing that was asserted repeatedly in making the case that
Iraq should be the priority, rather than al-Qaida, was that there were
weapons of mass destruction in Iraq--nuclear weapons, chemical and
biological weapons. The President and top officials repeatedly warned
of Saddam's efforts to acquire weapons of mass destruction, and nuclear
weapons in particular.
We had rhetoric about nuclear holy wars and mushroom clouds, and the
statements were assertions. The administration did not say that Iraq
might--or might not--have weapons of mass destruction. It asserted
affirmatively that, without a doubt, Iraq had these weapons and that
they posed an immediate threat to this country.
This chart lists a few of the many administration statements on
Iraq's nuclear weapons. The first one is a quote of the Vice President
in a speech to the VFW National Convention. He said:
Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein has
weapons of mass destruction.
We have quote after quote from this administration. The President
said:
The Iraqi regime is seeking nuclear weapons. The evidence
indicates that Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear weapons
program.
Ari Fleischer, the President's press spokesman said:
We know for a fact there are weapons there.
It goes on and on. Secretary Powell said:
He has so determined that he has made repeated covert
attempts to acquire high specification aluminum tubes from 11
different countries, even after inspections resumed.
And, again, Vice President Cheney:
We know he is out trying once again to produce nuclear
weapons. We believe Saddam has in fact reconstituted nuclear
weapons.
These were the statements made over and over by this administration.
On chemical and biological weapons, the story was the same. The
administration repeatedly asserted that Saddam had revived his chemical
and biological weapons program and had stockpiles of weapons that posed
a grave, immediate danger to the United States.
We all knew that Iraq had possessed and used chemical weapons in the
1980s. And we all knew that intelligence had not conclusively
demonstrated that all these weapons had been destroyed. But the
administration went well beyond that consensus, suggesting that there
was new evidence of renewed chemical and biological weapon production.
This next chart I have lists a few of the many administration
statements on Iraq's chemical and biological weapons. Again, the
President's chief spokesman said:
The President of the United States and the Secretary of
Defense would not assert as plainly and bluntly as they have
that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction if it was not true
and if they did not have a solid basis for saying it.
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That was Ari Fleischer.
Again, later the next year:
We know for a fact that there are weapons there.
Secretary Powell:
We know that Saddam Hussein is determined to keep his
weapons of mass destruction, is determined to make more.
President Bush:
The Iraqi regime has actively and secretly attempted to
obtain equipment needed to produce chemical, biological, and
nuclear weapons.
Again, President Bush:
Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves
no doubt that the Iraqi regime continues to possess and
conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised.
The President's chief spokesman Ari Fleischer:
Well, there is no question that we have evidence and
information that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction,
biological and chemical particularly . . . all this will be
made clear in the course of the operation, for whatever
duration it takes.
Mr. President, assertion after assertion. These statements, and
dozens more like them, painted a frightening picture of the threat
posed to this country by Iraq. They created a mood in this country that
built support for attacking a country that had not first attacked us or
our allies, and to do so for the first time in our history.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The time of the Senator has expired.
Mr. CONRAD. I ask for an additional 5 minutes.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection? Without objection, it is
so ordered.
Mr. CONRAD. Again, these statements did not suggest that ``maybe''
Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. They did not suggest that
``probably'' Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. They stated
clearly and unequivocally that he had them. There was one only problem
with these statements. All the evidence that has emerged since the war
suggests that they were wrong. All the evidence we have now shows the
administration knew at the time the statements were made that its own
intelligence undercut the statements it was making.
What we know now is that we have occupied Iraq for 10 months. We have
full, unrestricted access to the whole country, more than 1,000
investigators searching for illegal weapons, and they have found none.
Saddam did not have nuclear weapons or any serious effort to acquire
them in the near term. I think this quote from the January 28
Washington Post sums up the most recent finding:
``U.S. weapons inspectors in Iraq found new evidence that
Saddam Hussein's regime quietly destroyed some stockpiles of
biological and chemical weapons in the mid-1990s,'' former
chief inspector David Kay said yesterday.
The discovery means that inspectors have not only failed to
find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq but also have found
exculpatory information . . . demonstrating that Saddam
Hussein did make efforts to disarm well before President Bush
began making the case for war . . .
``If weapons programs existed on the scale we
anticipated,'' Kay said, ``we would have found something that
leads to that conclusion. Instead, we found other evidence
that points to something else.
I think the attached graphic from the Washington Post sums up the gap
between the statements and what we now know. On biological weapons,
evidence since March of 2003? No. No weaponized agents found.
On chemical weapons?
No. No weapons found. Appears none were produced after 1991.
On nuclear weapons?
No. No evidence of any active program.
I do not fault the administration for thinking that there might be
weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. I myself thought it probable that
Saddam possessed these weapons. But for me the real question was
whether these weapons posed such a serious, imminent threat that they
justified a preemptive attack on Iraq. Did we have solid evidence of an
immediate danger? For me, at the time, the answer was no. Today, with
the benefit of hindsight, with the Bush administration's own top
weapons inspector acknowledging that the pre-war statements were wrong
and that Saddam, in fact, was disarming before the war, the answer is
even clearer: No.
I am not the only one who has reached that conclusion. For example,
former President Reagan's Secretary of the Navy, James Webb, recently
wrote:
Bush arguably has committed the greatest strategic blunder
in modern memory. To put it bluntly, he attacked the wrong
target. While he boasts of removing Saddam Hussein from
power, he did far more than that. He decapitated the
government of a country that was not directly threatening the
United States and, in so doing, bogged down a huge percentage
of our military in a region that never has known peace. Our
military is being forced to trade away its maneuverability in
the wider war against terrorism while being placed on the
defensive in a single country that never will fully accept
its presence.
There is no historical precedent for taking such action
when our country was not being directly threatened. The
reckless course that Bush and his advisers have set will
affect the economic and military energy of our Nation for
decades. It is only the tactical competence of our military
that, to this point, has protected him from the harsh
judgment that he deserves.
In my view, it was a clear alternative to a preemptive attack that
had worked for us for more than half a century--aggressive containment
and isolation. The Soviet Union had biological and chemical weapons. We
never attacked them. China had biological and chemical weapons. We
didn't attack them. Cuba had missiles. We didn't attack them. In every
one of those cases we used containment, and it worked. But we did not
use containment in Iraq. We broke with our history and launched a
preemptive attack on a country that had not first attacked us or our
allies.
Now we have the responsibility for trying to occupy and rebuild Iraq.
Now we have moved resources out of the hunt for Osama bin Laden to deal
with the dangers of the occupation of Iraq, and we have not yet
succeeded in capturing bin Laden or shutting down al-Qaida.
I again must ask why have we not brought Osama bin Laden to justice?
Why do we allow ourselves to be distracted by a war with Iraq when we
have other, better options that allow us to keep the focus on al-Qaida?
It has been more than 30 months. It has been 930 days since the 9/11
attacks on this country, but Osama bin Laden is still at large. We all
hope he will soon be caught, but every day our attention is diverted is
another day America is at risk. That makes me question our policy.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator's additional 5 minutes have
expired.
Mr. CONRAD. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent for 5 minutes to
conclude my remarks.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection? Without objection, it is
so ordered.
Mr. CONRAD. Mr. President, I thank my colleagues for their patience.
That makes me question our policy. It makes me question why for most
of the last two years we have had no large-scale force hunting for bin
Laden. It makes me question why our military and intelligence assets
that could be hunting down al-Qaida have instead been diverted to Iraq.
It makes me concerned when intelligence experts tell us al-Qaida has
used that breathing space to decentralize its operations so it will be
harder to disrupt and destroy al-Qaida in the future, even if we do
capture bin Laden.
In the past few weeks, the administration has announced it has
stepped up the hunt for Osama bin Laden. Sending a few thousand troops
now is certainly a positive step. But I must ask with all due respect,
could we have captured Osama bin Laden months ago had we kept the focus
on al-Qaida? Could we have prevented the Madrid attack had we kept the
focus on dismantling al-Qaida rather than going to war in Iraq?
Where was the effort to find Osama bin Laden for the past two years?
And why do we not have tens of thousands of troops rather than just a
few thousand to hunt him down so he does not remain free to plot
against this country and our allies?
As Flynt Leverett, former CIA analyst and National Security Council
staffer for President Bush, observed in a Washington Post article this
past Sunday:
We took the people out [of Afghanistan] who could have
caught them. But even if we got bin Laden or [his top aide
Ayman] Zawahiri now, it is two years too late. Al-Qaeda is a
very different organization now. It has had time to adapt.
The administration should have finished this job.
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I can only reach one conclusion. We have been distracted. We have
been diverted. We have taken our eye off the ball. We have lost focus
on the real war on terrorism--the war on al-Qaida and the terrorists
who viciously attacked our country.
To put it bluntly, we have lost time and momentum and initiative in
the war on the terrorists who actually attacked us while we went after
a dictator--vicious and nasty as he was--who posed little immediate
threat to this country.
If we look across the evidence, I believe in many ways the United
States simply made a mistake of judgment on what was most important.
The President and his advisers believed--and I believe they sincerely
believed--the priority was to go after Iraq. But the evidence we now
have suggests they were chasing red herrings rather than real evidence
of a national security threat.
Don't get me wrong. The world is better off without Saddam Hussein in
power in Iraq. But going to war with Iraq at the expense of our
credibility and at the expense of our readiness to deal with other
threats, at the expense of vigorously hunting down al-Qaida and bin
Laden, has been the wrong priority.
That is exactly what concerned this Senator, that a preemptive war
against Iraq--a country that had a low-level threat against this
country, according to our own intelligence agencies--has distracted us
from going after the man and the organization that attacked this
country. It was not Iraqis who attacked this country. It was al-Qaida
that attacked this country. Saddam Hussein was not the heart of that
operation. Osama bin Laden was the leader of that operation.
It was Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida that engineered the vicious
attacks on America on September 11. It is unacceptable that Osama bin
Laden is still at large and broadcasting threats against this country
930 days after the attacks of September 11.
So I ask a final time: Why? Why has bin Laden eluded capture for 930
days? Why are we not focusing our efforts on bringing him to justice
and defeating his network of terror?
I think the American people deserve an answer to that question. I
think Members of this Chamber deserve an answer to that question.
Holding Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida to account for this attack should
be our top priority. It is time to refocus our priorities and to win
the war against al-Qaida. Stopping bin Laden and al-Qaida before they
can launch another attack that kills innocent Americans should be our
highest national security priority.
I thank the Chair. I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Utah.
Mr. BENNETT. Mr. President, it is my understanding there is a
unanimous consent agreement in place as to who might speak. I ask
unanimous consent that I be recognized for 5 minutes ahead of those in
queue.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. There is no order. The Senator is recognized.
Mr. BENNETT. I thank the Chair.
Mr. President, I listened with interest to my friend Senator Conrad.
And he is my friend. We use that term around here loosely, but he is in
fact a good friend. I differ with him very fundamentally.
I have learned in the superheated atmosphere of the Senate that I
must make this disclaimer: I do not challenge his patriotism, but I
challenge his accuracy and his conclusions.
I think we should also understand that as we differ on this, we are
not attacking someone's patriotism. That canard has been thrown across
the aisle at those of us who stand to defend the President and differ
with our colleagues.
I will return to the floor at a later time for more extensive
comments on Senator Conrad's speech. But I want to make these points
which I think get neglected over and over and were neglected in his
presentation.
He quoted David Kay, the President's arms inspector, as saying they
are admitting now there are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
What he failed to quote from David Kay was the statement that after
concluding his inspection in Iraq, David Kay came to the conclusion
that Saddam Hussein was in fact more dangerous than we thought he was
when we launched the war. I think that is the point that keeps being
ignored and must be emphasized again.
Senator Conrad says we didn't invade Russia when they had weapons of
mass destruction; that we didn't invade China when they had weapons of
mass destruction; and, why, therefore, did we invade Iraq when it turns
out they didn't have them? We did it because we thought he had the
weapons of mass destruction, and we thought that made him dangerous. It
is not the possession of the weapons that is the problem. It is the
danger that is the problem.
Great Britain has weapons of mass destruction, but they are in no
sense dangerous. We thought Saddam Hussein was.
It is unfair to quote David Kay as saying there were no weapons and
then not finish the quotation with his statement that even without
weapons Saddam Hussein was more dangerous than we thought when we
entered the war.
If you are going to use David Kay as your authority, you must use
David Kay's entire conclusion. Saddam Hussein was, according to David
Kay, more dangerous than we thought. Yet somehow he is being cited as
to the source to say we should not have gone ahead.
This next major thrust of his statement was: Well, because we got
distracted with Iraq, we have not dealt with al-Qaida and terrorism.
That is the subject which I will address at some length when the
Senator from Tennessee is finished.
The fact is, you cannot single out al-Qaida as a terrorist group as
if it operates in a vacuum. I remember my high school history teacher
saying, over and over to us: You cannot cut a seamless web of history.
You cannot divide the threat of terror into neat little sections and
say, we can deal with the one and the others do not really matter.
I will be discussing and presenting on the floor here at a relatively
close future time the statement that appeared this morning in the Wall
Street Journal that is a summary of the Kissinger lecture, given at the
Library of Congress, by George Shultz. I had the privilege and honor of
hearing George Shultz present that lecture. In it he makes the clear
point that the war on terror, the threat from terror, goes all the way
back to his experience in the Reagan administration, when he was
Secretary of State. And it manifests itself in a variety of places and
in a variety of ways.
There is no distraction in the war on terror by virtue of what we are
doing in Iraq. Saddam Hussein financed terror. Saddam Hussein
countenanced terror. Saddam Hussein provided sanctuary for terrorists.
If we were going to launch a war on terror, and said we were going to
rule out Iraq as part of that war, we would have been irresponsible.
Yes, the first attack went against al-Qaida and al-Qaida's sanctuary
in Afghanistan. But al-Qaida fled and sought sanctuary elsewhere. And
one of the main places where terror found sanctuary and finance was in
Iraq. And we thought Iraq was dangerous enough to invade, in
fulfillment--as George Shultz points out--of the clear United Nations
mandate that went back decades. We acted in accordance with that
mandate. We enforced the United Nations resolutions in full compliance
with United Nations procedure and the vote of both Chambers of this
Congress.
It was not a distraction. It was part of the overall recognition on
the part of the Bush administration that this was not a law enforcement
problem where we needed to identify the criminal, arrest him, and
prosecute him. This was, indeed, a true war, across a wide spectrum of
challenge, where we had to deal with dangerous problems, the most
dangerous of which, again, according to David Kay--who has been quoted
by those who are attacking the administration--was Saddam Hussein: more
dangerous than we thought when we launched the war.
I think we should keep that in mind as we go forward in this debate.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Montana.
Amendment No. 2937
Mr. BAUCUS. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent to be added as a
cosponsor to the amendment offered by Senators Dodd and Snowe on
childcare.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Tennessee.
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Mr. ALEXANDER. Mr. President, is there any limit on time?
The PRESIDING OFFICER. There is not.
Mr. ALEXANDER. Thank you, Mr. President.
Mr. President, I have come to the floor this afternoon to speak on
the welfare reform legislation that the Finance Committee has worked
on. I compliment Chairman Grassley and the Senator from Montana for
their hard work in bringing this important piece of legislation
forward.
I am going to comment on two aspects of the bill.
Iraq
Before I do that, Mr. President, I have been sitting here listening
for a while. I think it is important to complete the story of what the
Senator from North Dakota was saying.
Let me be specific about this. As I heard his remarks, he was
basically saying the President of the United States made a mistake when
he decided the United States should use force to change the regime in
Iraq.
I suppose one could come to that conclusion. There were some in the
Senate who did. But I think it is important, if we are going to begin
to read quotations and comments from those who have come to that
conclusion today, that we finish the story, as Paul Harvey said.
Here is the rest of the story. Here is what others were saying,
others were thinking, at the time President Bush had to look at the
whole world and look at this different world that we are in and make a
decision.
It is true that it has been against the traditions of the United
States to make a preemptive strike. That was a major discussion during
the Cuban missile crisis. Bobby Kennedy brought that up in the
councils. He was right to do that. And I am sure in President Bush's
councils that was discussed.
But, suddenly, we were facing a different kind of enemy. We were
facing terrorists. And we had just experienced an unexpected attack.
There are some even today who say that someone should have imagined
that a handful of men would hijack two airplanes and fly them into the
World Trade Center. Maybe someone should have. But I can assure you
that during the 1990s, there was no one running for President of the
United States who expressed that thought or who had that thought in the
remotest back of his mind that such a thing like that could happen.
Terrorism, yes. But that kind of attack? No.
So, suddenly, we are in this new environment. And the President of
the United States is doing what I would hope any President would do of
either party when confronted with radically different circumstances. He
asked some questions and he took some action.
Now, it is important for us to remember that at the same time the
President was making decisions about whether we should invade Iraq to
defend ourselves, to prevent a terrorist attack--because there was a
threat there to American lives and American safety--there were others
in our Government who also had a chance to consider that information,
and to talk about it, and to vote on it.
We voted on it here. I was not here yet, but I remember the
overwhelming majority--bipartisan majority--in this Senate that
authorized the use of military force against Iraq. And I can remember
very well what was said.
So if the issue is whether a prudent President--who is sworn to
uphold the oath to defend the United States of America--made a wise
judgment to challenge Saddam Hussein, whether he could have done that
based upon the facts presented to him, let's take a look at what other
people, other well-informed people were saying and thinking at the
time.
The distinguished Senator from North Dakota read some quotations. Let
me read some more. Here is a member of the Senate's own Intelligence
Committee, the Senator from West Virginia, Mr. Rockefeller, one of our
most distinguished and wisest Senators, a man who has been a Governor,
with whom I have served, a man who is also on the Foreign Relations
Committee. Here is what the Senator from West Virginia, speaking on the
Senate floor, said on October 10 of the year 2002, about the time the
President of the United States was looking at this information. Senator
Rockefeller said:
There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is
working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will
likely have nuclear weapons within the next 5 years. He could
have it earlier if he is able to obtain fissile missile
materials on the outside market, which is possible--difficult
but possible.
We should also remember we have always underestimated the
progress that Saddam Hussein has been able to make in the
development of weapons of mass destruction.
Now, that was not the Vice President of the United States. That was
not Secretary Rumsfeld. That was not President Bush. That was the
Senator from West Virginia, a member of our Intelligence Committee, a
member of the Foreign Relations Committee, who was coming up with his
own conclusions.
Here is another quotation made on the Senate floor on October 9,
2002, about the same time. This came from the distinguished junior
Senator from Massachusetts, Senator John Kerry:
I believe the record of Saddam Hussein's ruthless, reckless
breach of international values and standards of behavior,
which is at the core of the cease-fire agreement, with no
reach, no stretch, is cause enough for the world community to
hold him accountable by the use of force if necessary.
That was Senator Kerry, at about the time that President Bush was
having to make this terrible decision.
I want to move on to other issues. But I don't think it serves our
purpose as a country to dredge up comments that show some second-
guessing, some second thoughts on one side, but not look back at what
other distinguished, fairminded reasonable men and women were saying.
Here is what Senator Biden said at about the same time on the Senate
floor, October 9, 2002:
If the world decides it must use force for his failure to
abide by the terms of surrender, then it is not preempting,
it is enforcing. It is enforcing, it is finishing a war he
reignited, because the only reason the war stopped is he sued
for peace.
And finally, here is what the Senator from New York, Mrs. Clinton,
said on October 10, 2002:
In the 4 years since the inspectors left, intelligence
reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his
chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery
capability, and his nuclear program. It is clear, however,
that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to
increase his capability to wage biological and chemical
warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.
Those are the conclusions of the distinguished Members of the other
side who know a lot about this, the same conclusion President Bush had.
We don't have to listen to what the administration tells us here. We
have our committees. We travel the world. Some of us have been in other
administrations. We read. We listen. We talk. We come to our own
conclusions. The conclusions of most Senators was the same as the
conclusion of the President, that as terrible as it was, this was a
time we needed to act.
There is one other quotation I would like to mention before I turn to
the Welfare Reform Act. This is a comment of a former President of the
United States who has, to his great credit, not backed away insofar as
I have heard from this remark. President Bill Clinton said, on February
17, 1998, in an address for the Joint Chiefs of Staff and Pentagon
staff:
Now let us imagine the future. What if he fails to comply
and we fail to act or we take some ambiguous third route
which gives him yet more opportunities to develop this
program of weapons of mass destruction and continue to press
for the release of the sanctions and continue to ignore the
solemn commitments that he made. Well, Saddam Hussein will
conclude that the international community has lost its will.
He will then conclude that he can go right on and do more to
rebuild an arsenal of devastating destruction. And some day,
some way, I guarantee you, he will use the arsenal. And I
think every one of you who has really worked on this for any
length of time believes that, too.
That was President Clinton in 1998 in an address to the Joint Chiefs
of Staff and the Pentagon staff.
The No. 1 issue on all of our minds is the war in Iraq. But I would
hope we could look forward and not look backward in recrimination. That
is not too much to hope in a Presidential election year. I believe the
people of this country want President Bush and Senator Kerry to say
where do we go from here, how do we win the peace, how do we secure
freedom, how do we get the men and women home from Iraq and
Afghanistan, what can we do to help
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their families. That is what the focus ought to be rather than reading
long, incomplete lists of second-guessing quotations to try to pin the
blame on a decision that was broadly and widely shared based upon
information that had been piled up over 10 or 12 years. That does not
serve our process well.
I came to the floor today on another matter. I am glad I had a chance
to mention former President Clinton in terms of doing it. I remember
well. In my second term as Governor in the mid-1980s, I was privileged
to serve as chairman of the National Governors Association and created
the first welfare reform task force. I asked then-Governors Pete DuPont
and Bill Clinton, who was vice chairman of that association, to be the
co-chairs, working with me to figure out something better. And we did,
and they did most of that work and that leadership.
The work that the Governors started that year continued. Ten years
later, when Bill Clinton was President in 1996 and there was a
Republican Congress, Congress passed the landmark welfare reform
legislation which today we call TANF, Temporary Assistance for Needy
Families.
That 1996 welfare-to-work legislation was very controversial at the
time. It was controversial because it got us out of the rut that we had
been in for 30 or 40 years of creating a permanent class of welfare and
caused us to rethink that. It is possible that it only could have been
done with the President of one party who had immersed himself in the
subject and who talked about it and believed in it and a Congress of
another party. It was that big a change.
It changed the way we think about welfare, from a program that
fosters dependence to a program that serves as temporary assistance, a
program that restores dignity and encourages people to stand on their
own two feet. That welfare-to-work program that President Clinton and
the Republican Congress created 10 years ago--many Members of the House
who were there at the time are now in the Senate--has been a very
successful program and one in which they can take pride.
From a high of 5 million in 1994, welfare caseloads have dropped by
over 50 percent. But since 2000, the national caseload has leveled off
at slightly above 2 million. In more than half the States, including my
own of Tennessee, caseloads are growing. And in every State, the
remaining 50 percent on the welfare rolls present a bigger challenge.
There are some other warning signs. The number of families is rising
who have exhausted their 60-month or 5-year time limit for Federal aid
under TANF. We have a 5-year limit. We don't want permanent welfare.
And a number of families have exceeded that 5-year limit so they are
off welfare.
Another warning sign is the remaining caseload holds a rising
proportion of Black and Hispanic families. Another is that unemployment
among single mothers, which declined sharply in the early years of our
welfare-to-work program, went back up in 2001 and 2002.
Finally, another warning signal is in response to their own fiscal
crises--we can remember we had to send a $20 billion welfare check of
our own to the States last year--some States have recently had to
restrict cash benefits and support services, spreading limited
resources even thinner.
The President and the Congress recognized from the beginning that
helping people go from dependence to independence would be expensive in
the short run. It would take some money. If you are saying to somebody
who is down and out and in the third generation of welfare dependence,
we want you to change your lifestyle and we are going to offer in
exchange for that childcare, education opportunities, job training,
counseling, removal of barriers to work, offering all that, that takes
people, that takes work, and that takes money.
We have provided money over a period of time. One of the most
successful of those programs has been the childcare voucher. Not
everyone likes to call it a voucher because some people don't like
vouchers. The Pell grant is a voucher for college students, the
Stafford student loans is a voucher for college students, and the
childcare grant is a voucher. It is money that goes through the
States--I think it is about $8 billion or so--to more than 2 million
persons who are getting off welfare. As we say, largely to women who
have children: We want you to go to work. They may say: What about our
children? And we say: Here is a childcare grant that you may take to
any accredited institution that you can. That is what we mean by
voucher.
That has been a big success as well. That is the reason why even
though the Senate committee, in my judgment, has done an excellent job
of bringing to the Senate the reauthorization or renewal of this
welfare reform bill and has increased the amount of money available for
childcare, I agree with Senator Snowe of Maine that we need to increase
the money for childcare more.
Senator Snowe spoke about that today at great length, so I don't feel
the need to go into great length about it. Basically, the Snowe
amendment, which I am glad to cosponsor, adds an additional $6 billion
over 5 years for childcare. Both the House and the Senate versions of
the welfare reform bills we are considering increase both the hours the
parents are required to work each week and the number of welfare
parents each week who are required to work.
If we are going to require that the only parent who is at home go to
work, and if that person is poor, and if that person is still on
welfare after we have been working for 10 years to try to get as many
people as possible off, we certainly are going to have to say as part
of our deal we will help with childcare if you will go to work. That is
the whole idea.
Childcare is the linchpin between welfare and work. Studies show
former welfare recipients who receive childcare assistance are 82
percent more likely to be employed after 2 years than those who don't;
65 percent of mothers with children under the age of 6 and 79 percent
of mothers with children ages 6 to 13 are in the labor force in our
country today. As I mentioned earlier, about 2.5 million children
receive our Federal childcare vouchers through the State. Childcare is
expensive. It costs as much as a 4-year college--between $4,000 and
$10,000 per child annually sometimes.
I got a personal dose of learning about this in 1996 when I was under
the mistaken impression the people of the United States wanted me to
run for President of the United States. I got the message earlier that
year that they preferred Bob Dole, the former majority leader. I went
home to Tennessee. I received a call from Major Werthy of the Salvation
Army. He said, ``I have been hearing what you had to say.'' I had been
saying a lot about personal responsibility. He said, ``I am calling to
draft you and put your feet where your mouth has been for the last few
years.'' So I went to work for the Salvation Army in Nashville and
helped create something called the Red Shield Family Initiative. This
basically became Nashville's way of implementing the Federal law.
Congress and the President decided we are going to change things. If
you will get off welfare, we will give you help, childcare, job
training. We will knock barriers out of the way and counsel you about
drugs and work with you. Then somebody has to actually do all that. In
Nashville a whole group of people got together, led by the Salvation
Army. It included the metropolitan government, the State of Tennessee,
all sorts of social services, and it included childcare centers. Down
in the area of town where we have the most difficult circumstances, we
had almost a mall, such as a shopping mall that exists to create a one-
stop place for a mom on welfare who wanted to get off, so they could
then be helped. There have been some wonderful stories that have come
out of that Red Shield Family Initiative, but I can tell you they came
out slowly, one by one.
Tamika Payton was in the ninth grade. This is an example Major Werthy
talked to me about. In the ninth grade, she was a ward of the State
when she had her first child. She grew up with an abusive mother who
was addicted to drugs. She was removed from the care of her mother and
placed in the care of her aunt, who was also abusive, so she ran away.
This is Tamika's story, but it is a story that occurs all over America.
She had two more children before becoming connected to the Family First
Program, which is what we call Tennessee's welfare-to-work program.
Because of the
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childcare certificate, the vouchers she receives through the Tennessee
Family First Program, the ones we pay for with Federal tax dollars, she
now has a full-time job, she is working on her GED, her high school
degree, and her children attend the McNealy Child Care Center, a
nationally accredited childcare agency in the area where this Red
Shield Family Initiative of the Salvation Army exists.
In Tennessee, the State pays $105 a week for Tamika's 1-year-old,
$105 a week for her 2-year-old child, and $90 a week for her 4-year old
child. In Nashville, the average cost of a quality childcare center
ranges between $100 and $150 a week. These vouchers we are voting for
come within that range. Tamika's dream is to get her high school degree
and then to attend Tennessee State University.
In other words, what is happening with Tamika Payton is exactly what
the Republican Congress and President Clinton hoped would happen in
1996 when this started. But as we consider the welfare reform
legislation, I think it is very important that we remember in
Washington, DC, while we may create large frameworks and set standards
and provide money, it is people such as the Red Shield Family
Initiative in Nashville, in Portland, in Austin, in New York City, who
are doing the work--they have got to work one by one by one. So I will
support and vote for Senator Snowe's amendment to add an additional $6
billion over 5 years for child care, because if in this welfare reform
authorization we are going to require the only parent in the house to
work away from home--more work than we have required before--then we
will have to pay more for more childcare. We cannot require more work
without paying more for more childcare.
There is one other concern I have. It will be the subject of an
amendment I intend to introduce along with Senators Nelson, Carper, and
Voinovich later this week. We are working with the chairman and his
staff to try to make certain it is consistent with the objectives of
the general legislation, which we believe it is. This amendment would
create a 10-State demonstration project designed to test the premise
that if States had greater flexibility, States could do a better job
getting people off welfare and becoming truly self-sufficient. Senators
Nelson, Carper, Voinovich, and I are all former Governors. We know the
importance of reducing welfare rolls. We all served as Governors of
States in the AFDC days, when we had Aid to Families with Dependent
Children. We all strongly support the welfare-to-work concept. But
especially with this last group of men and women--mostly women--who are
moving from welfare to work, we have the tougher cases. It will be
harder for us to decide from here exactly how each of those persons we
are trying to help can get from where they are to where we want them to
go. We should not presume to have all of the answers.
Here is how our demonstration project would therefore work. The
Secretary of Health and Human Services would approve plans for up to 10
States. These plans would include what we call measurable outcome
goals. In other words, in plain English, are we helping this person
move toward self-sufficiency, toward independence, to get on their own
two feet and off welfare? We would, in those 10 demonstration States,
enforce the 60-month time limit for TANF benefits and require, as in
the Senate bill, the self-sufficiency employment plan for each
recipient. In other words, each individual would have a plan for that
person's progress.
We agree with the idea of no permanent welfare. While work continues
to be at the heart of what we expect States to focus on, States will
need to decide how best to meet each person's need, is taking into
consideration individual circumstances. As wise as we may hope we are,
each one of us is not going to be able to meet each Tamika Payton and
make a judgment as to how Tamika can get on her two feet with her three
children, succeed in life, and never receive a welfare check again. So
in exchange for greater flexibility, we will ask the States to achieve
better results and be measured against true outcome goals, a feature
neither in the current law nor in the Senate and House bills.
These are the kinds of goals that our legislation will include: One,
work, employment, growth in the percent of recipients employed in that
State; two, removal of barriers to stable employment. By that I mean
drug treatment success. That is a barrier to stable employment.
Education level, that is a barrier to stable employment. Attainable
marketable skills, that is a barrier to stable employment.
I remember visiting a welfare human services office in my State in
2002. I asked them what worked best. What they told me was: Get them
into school. If we get them into school, we never see them again. What
the welfare office hopes for from its clients is they do not see them
again, at least they do not see them again in terms of assistance and
checks. They want them to be on their own.
Job retention is a measurable outcome goal. Earnings is a measurable
outcome goal. Child well-being--whether the children of that mom have
prenatal care, and for the pregnant mother--immunization rates of the
children, the percent of children in child care, overall improvement in
the children's education, test results.
Within those specific measurable outcomes--employment, removing
barriers to employment, job retention, earnings, and child well-being--
a State's plan would say: We believe we know better how to get to the
goal of sufficiency; give us a chance to do that. Each State would be
required to enter into a performance agreement with the Department of
Health and Human Services to meet certain targets to coordinate with
other programs, to work with the Secretary to demonstrate that a
reasonable workforce participation rate is being maintained, to have an
evaluation plan that includes accountability for the benchmarks.
This will test the best way to help those on welfare today get off
welfare for good.
It would help some of those we now see in Tennessee who we were able
to help because our State has unusual flexibility, but without that
flexibility, we believe we would not have been able to serve them as
successfully.
Mr. President, there are many examples in my own experience, and I am
sure in every State's experience, of how local ingenuity, local caring,
working with persons who are in trouble, one by one, has helped them
succeed.
I would like to see us take this next step with welfare reform. I
believe since it had a bipartisan origin with a Democratic President of
the United States who invested years in trying to understand it, and a
new Republican Congress that made it a priority, that we owe this
important legislation, this welfare reform bill, our full attention for
a few days. We can surely put aside some of these other issues long
enough to help men and women get on their own two feet in this great
country of ours, particularly to continue a program that for 10 years
has worked so well.
My goal will be to do what I can as one Senator to make sure we focus
on welfare reform; No. 2, to support the Snowe amendment that makes
sure that if we require more work, we provide for more child care; and,
No. 3, to work with the committee to try to see if we can find a way so
that a limited number of States during this 5-year period can have
somewhat more flexibility in working with these difficult cases so when
this comes back around again in 4, 5, or 6 years, we can see what we
have learned.
Too often as programs go on, the restrictions from Washington pile
up. I would like to see a countervailing effort, countervailing
movement within this legislation that continues to increase flexibility
because, after all, it is stated right at the beginning of the 1996
law, giving States more flexibility is key to the success of welfare
reform.
I thank the Chair, and I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Cornyn). The Senator from Idaho.
Mr. CRAIG. Mr. President, I will take a few moments at this time.
Certainly the issue of welfare reform is critical. The Senator from
Tennessee has outlined the phenomenal successes to date led by
Republicans both in the House and the Senate and now, of course, the
Finance Committee has come forward with a reauthorization that is
critical to our country. But in talking about that issue, one of the
things that all welfare reform runs subject to is the ability, as we
ask people to leave welfare, to find a job.
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Something that frustrates me at this moment is what is occurring
while the Congress of the United States refuses to act that will have a
very real impact on the economy of our country and the ability to
create jobs.
Just this morning, as constituents across this country by all of the
Senators pulled up in front of their gas pumps to fill their tanks,
they paid the highest price for regular gas ever in the history of this
country. Prices in California have skyrocketed out of sight, and it is
true across the Nation.
That is a fact. That happened this morning, and gas people are
telling us that it will happen morning after morning as gas prices
ratchet up across this country.
There is another fact out there. Congress has searched for an
agreement and debated what to do about this for well over 3 years. The
House and the Senate passed energy bills in the past year and led the
American people to believe that they could solve this problem. Those
reports came back from the Senate and the House. The Senate passed
theirs; the House passed theirs. The Senate could not get there for one
reason or another and, as a result, a message was sent out to the
American people that the Senate of the United States could not come to
an agreement on an energy bill. That is a fact.
Here is another fact. The reason energy prices continue to rise is
that the Senate, not the House, failed to get the 60 votes necessary to
solve what is becoming a major national crisis in this country. Let me
repeat that. The Senate of the United States failed to get cloture, a
vote that is critical to moving beyond the 60-vote margin to allow a
national energy policy to go forward.
So if you grew a little angry this morning when you paid the highest
price you have ever paid for gas at the pump, call your Senator. No,
not your State Senator, call your United States Senator and ask he or
she how they voted on a national energy bill last year, and ask them if
they supported developing a national energy policy for this country.
I do believe Americans are finally getting it. They are finally
beginning to understand the crunch of high gas prices not only at the
pump but natural gas prices and electricity prices. Americans, like I
said, are paying more for all levels of energy ever in this country.
Does that have an impact on job creation and the viability of our
economy? You bet it does. Does it have an impact on welfare, people
losing their jobs instead of being able to get off welfare from a
reform bill and get out into the economy and find jobs? You bet it
does. Jobs, all kinds of opportunities in this country, recreational
opportunities, all of these kinds of issues are impacted by the cost of
energy in our country today.
What about the cost of growing food in our country? I just had an
Idaho banker in my office in the last week. He has called all of his
bank branch managers together and said: Look at all your fine lines of
credit to see whether we can afford to bump them up 25 or 30 percent
because the average farmer is going to pay 25 or 30 percent more for
input costs in production this year than they did last year, and it is
all going to be as a result of the cost of energy, and it is all going
to be because this Senate failed to act in a strong bipartisan way to
solve this problem.
America's working men and women ought to be growing angry because
their home heating bills this winter were the highest they ever paid in
a pretty cold and drawn-out winter. They paid more for the gas to heat
their home. They paid more for oil than they ever paid.
Why? Let me repeat that. Because the Senate of the United States
failed to respond. Many on the other side are now saying we have a
jobless recovery, that we are not creating all kinds of jobs we ought
to create even though our economy is beginning to grow. Well, if the
cost of production is forced to an alltime level and we have to compete
with goods and services from all over the world that may be being
produced in a climate where energy is half the cost than it is in this
country as relates to natural gas, maybe there is a reason why the
economy is sluggish and not moving as quickly as it should today.
My State, an agricultural State, a high-tech State, is also a tourism
and recreation State. What is going to happen this summer when mom and
dad and the four, three, or two kids get in the motor home and fill it
up and it is going to cost another $10, $15 or $20 every time they stop
to fill up their motor home? Well, they may not be traveling to my
State of Idaho this year or other places in the Nation and spending
their money and feeding the economy of the States that appreciate a
recreational economy.
I mentioned a few moments ago, average working men and women paid
historic gas prices to heat their homes this year. Here is a very
fascinating and very frustrating figure: Residential, commercial, and
industrial consumers have paid $130 billion more over the last 46
months, compared with 4 years before, than ever in the history of our
country. That is an 86-percent increase in approximately 4 years in the
price of natural gas. Why? The Congress of the United States, the
Senate, did not pass a bill that would have allowed greater
exploration, that would allow the necessary kind of pipeline
development.
The bill we would like to bring to the floor today would allow a gas
pipeline to be brought down out of Alaska where we are pumping billions
of cubic feet of natural gas back into the ground that could be coming
to the Lower 48. That would not have caused this figure.
The increased price of natural gas has cost industrial consumers $66
billion, residential consumers $39 billion, and commercial consumers
$25 billion. Every penny of the $130 billion could have been prevented
if the Congress of the United States had acted.
We knew this perfect storm was coming. We have looked at it for the
last 5 years. We knew that with the Clean Air Act we were going to push
people toward natural gas, and yet we closed our public lands, we made
it much more difficult to certificate, and we slowly but surely walked
away from production at a time when Federal policy was increasing the
use of natural gas to alltime highs.
What is the impact on the farmer of my State? Let me give a few
figures. Everything from diesel fuel to the cost of fertilizer has gone
up. It is skyrocketing. Some fertilizer costs will go up nearly 100
percent this year. It might mean less fertilizer is used. It may mean
food production could flatten out or even go down in this country.
What about the profitability of the farmer? If the farmer is not
profitable, if he is not making money, my guess is he is going to turn
to his Senator or his Congressman and say, I have had a bad year; can
you help me a little bit? Maybe the reason he had a bad year is because
the Senate of the United States has refused for 5 years to look at a
comprehensive energy policy.
Loss of manufacturing jobs, plant shutdowns, corporate bankruptcies--
some of these have been tied to the high cost of energy. Residential
electric bills and certainly, as a result of that, higher food costs
are all a part of it.
We like to get people off welfare. We want them to have self-dignity
and worth. We want them to have a job on their own and we are willing
to help them get there. But we flatten out our economy through Federal
rule and regulation in part because we will not develop a national
energy policy.
What is the solution? Well, some of my friends on the other side, an
attorney general out in California, said it is time to investigate the
big oil companies again; it is their fault. Now I would like to say: It
ain't their fault anymore. We are not letting them explore. We are not
letting them develop. We are saying, this land is off; this land is
off; you cannot go offshore; you cannot do this; you cannot do that.
Slowly but surely we have ratcheted up our dependence on foreign
providers, now teetering at around 60 percent. The Middle East, oh,
well, we can blame OPEC; Venezuela, we can blame the politics of
Venezuela. We sure do not want to blame ourselves for having failed to
come together in the development of a national energy policy.
The Governor of Rhode Island said this recently: The high cost of
natural gas is taking a toll on our economy across New England and
across the Nation. In today's competitive world, manufacturers cannot
raise prices to compensate for higher energy costs.
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The only long-term solution is to increase supply.
My guess is that when we talk about increasing supply, the land
offshore Rhode Island is off limits to exploration and development.
The vice president of the Oklahoma Farm Bureau put it this way: One
of the industry's highest dependence on natural gas as a feedstock and
critical to American agriculture is the fertilizer industry. Natural
gas is the primary feedstock in the production of virtually all
commercial nitrogen fertilizers in the United States, accounting for
nearly 90 percent of the farmers' total cost of anhydrous ammonia. Our
domestic fertilizer production capacity has already experienced a
permanent loss of 25 percent over the last 4 years, and an additional
increase in costs, recommending the potential of another 20 percent
shutdown of that industry.
Well, I could go on with quote after quote. I know I am not talking
about reauthorization of the Welfare Reform Act at this time, but an
economy that employs people is in direct relationship to getting people
off welfare and getting them into a good-paying job. That is what an
economy that grows is all about.
When this Senate refuses to pass a national energy policy and by that
failure drives up energy costs, we drive jobs offshore, we drive jobs
underground, and most assuredly those who are out looking for a job for
the first time in this economy are not going to find that job; they are
going to want to come back to their Government and ask for help and
assistance.
I thought it was appropriate that we speak about a national energy
policy, about a job-creating economy, when we are talking about welfare
reform. I thank the chairman of the Finance Committee for the work he
has done, the very bipartisan effort once again to do what is right
and responsible in the area of welfare reform.
Let me challenge this Senate, Democrat and Republican alike, to do
what is right when it comes to a national energy policy. Get this
country back into the business of producing oil instead of using
excuses that it is somebody else's fault that the price of gas at the
pump is now at a national alltime high. I will tell my colleagues whose
fault it is: Call your U.S. Senator. It is his fault that gas is now
high today. Do not let them duck and hide and blame big oil or blame
OPEC or blame someone else. Blame your Senator. Call him today. It is
his or her fault we do not have a national energy policy.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Iowa is recognized.
Mr. GRASSLEY. I have two unanimous consent requests. The first one
deals with tomorrow's business and a vote on the Snowe amendment. I ask
unanimous consent that the vote in relation to Snowe amendment No. 2937
regarding childcare occur at 12:15 on Tuesday March 30, provided
further that no second degrees be in order to the amendment prior to
the vote, with Senator Carper to be recognized for up to 10 minutes
prior to the vote, and that the time be counted against any Democrat-
controlled time.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection? Without objection, it is
so ordered.
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