[Congressional Record Volume 150, Number 13 (Thursday, February 5, 2004)]
[Senate]
[Pages S614-S647]
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SAFE, ACCOUNTABLE, FLEXIBLE, AND EFFICIENT TRANSPORTATION EQUITY ACT OF
2003
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Under the previous order, the hour of 10:50
having arrived, the Senate will resume consideration of S. 1072, which
the clerk will report.
The assistant legislative clerk read as follows:
A bill (S. 1072) to authorize funds for Federal-aid
highways, highway safety programs, and transit programs, and
for other purposes.
Pending:
Modified committee amendment in the nature of a substitute.
Dorgan amendment No. 2267, to exempt certain agricultural
producers from certain hazardous materials transportation
requirements.
Gregg amendment No. 2268 (to amendment No. 2267), to
provide that certain public safety officials have the right
to collective bargaining.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Nevada.
Mr. REID. Madam President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll.
The assistant legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
Mr. INHOFE. Madam President, I ask unanimous consent that the order
for the quorum call be rescinded.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. INHOFE. At this point, I will yield to the Senator from Iowa, and
following his remarks I will seek to be recognized.
(Mr. ENSIGN assumed the Chair.)
Mr. GRASSLEY. Madam President, I want to address the consideration
that the Senate Finance Committee gave to the portion of the highway
bill that determines the size of the trust fund, source of the trust
fund, and our committee's decisionmaking over that. And my speaking to
the Senate is based on the proposition, thus far, that we are moving
ahead with the total highway package the way that has been suggested by
the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee, Senate Banking
Committee, and the Senate Commerce Committee, with my committee working
in cooperation with those three committees, at that level of
expenditure.
Somehow, if the President, in succeeding days, would say he is not
going to sign a bill that is that big, I will moderate my remarks to
conform with that. But right now, all I know is what this body has done
in three of its committees to arrive at where we are now. I want to
address, within that framework and that environment, the work of our
committee.
I will particularly speak about some other Members of this body who
lack a consideration of the hard work that has been put into this
product, as well as their philosophical objections to what we have
done. I don't have any question that any Senator can have any
philosophical objections to anything he wants, but I want everybody in
the Senate to know that the 21 members of the Senate Finance Committee
did not take this product lightly.
There has been a lot of harsh criticism of the upcoming Finance
Committee title of this highway bill.
What I will do is lay out the context of the funding portions of this
legislation and respond to this harsh criticism. The role of the
Finance Committee on the highway bill is centered on the highway trust
fund raising, not expending, funds. Finance Committee jurisdiction
involves the Federal excise taxes, the highway trust fund, and the
expenditure authority of the trust fund. The Finance Committee has
acted in all of these areas as recently as just this Monday.
The authorizing committee's actions will result in outlays from the
trust funds of $231 billion for highways, and $36.6 billion for
transit, spread out over the next 6 years. Essentially, those figures I
just gave you represent the cash-flow out of the trust fund. The
Finance Committee's action provided the resources in the trust fund to
cover the cash outflows and provide a cushion in the trust fund
balances. This is how we arrived at that action of the Senate Finance
Committee.
But some of the critics have said the Finance Committee should have
funded
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the trust fund at the level of the motor fuel taxes and the compliant
savings resulting therefrom.
This is a very fair debate to have in the Senate, or in any
committee, but I want the Members of this body who don't serve on the
Finance Committee to understand that we had that fair debate in the
Finance Committee on Monday, and in other sessions before that. This
committee had to decide otherwise from those critics who have said that
the Finance Committee should have funded the trust fund at just the
levels of the motor fuel taxes and compliant savings.
So I think everybody in this body has a responsibility to be
realistic and wake up to the facts of life as we are considering this
legislation and in their responding to it because there will be a time
when the Senate will express its will on this floor, and we all have to
face the reality of the legislative process. The will of the Senate, at
the end of the day, will be to fund highways and transit programs at
the outlay levels provided by the three authorizing committees of
Banking, Commerce, and Environment and Public Works.
So to my critics, some of whom chose to criticize me directly, let me
remind them that last year I was 1 of 21 votes against the Bond-Reid
amendment during the budget debate. That wasn't an easy vote. So I
understand the sentiments for lower funding levels, but Members of this
body need to understand that 21 is a sizable minority of this body, and
the vast majority decided more money should be spent on highways and
transit.
That was last year, and this is now, today. A majority of the Finance
Committee dealt with this fundamental reality. So I would like to ask
the critics to come out of their ivory towers and deal with the reality
of the Senate.
The reality that faced us on the Finance Committee was how to bridge
the gap between the baseline revenue collections and the outlay levels
of the three authorizing committees, which was considerably higher.
In consideration of this major problem facing us, the leader of the
Democrats on my committee, Senator Baucus, and I--and we try to work
together whenever we can, and that is most of the time--had the reality
of the Senate to take into consideration. We had to keep in mind the
institutional issues with which the Senate Finance Committee has to
deal. We could not and we would not choose an option that would
undermine the integrity of the trust fund, and we surely are not going
to do anything to undermine the role of the Senate Finance Committee.
What do I mean by the integrity of the trust fund? The answer is that
the Finance Committee needs to ensure that there is a relationship
between the receipts in the trust fund and the spending from that trust
fund. To the extent that relationship is undermined, I say to my fellow
colleagues, the Finance Committee's role is undermined as well.
I also wish to point out the bottom line for those other 20 Senators
who, like me, voted against the higher trust fund spending last year.
Again, the political reality is that the Senate is going to approve
outlays at the levels approved by these three authorizing committees.
One option would be a direct general fund transfer. A direct general
fund transfer erodes the integrity of trust funds, and it dilutes the
role of the tax-writing committees. It directly delinks highway
spending and highway receipts, and we believe those have traditionally
been tied together and should be tied together. Because of that, the
Senate did not go there.
There is a danger for us fiscal conservatives of such an approach
because direct general fund transfers would potentially be open ended
and no fiscal discipline whatsoever.
If the Finance Committee had done what the critics argue, what would
have been the outcome on the floor of the Senate? Does anyone believe
that we would have been left at the authorized funding amounts? No, we
all know the funding levels would have gone way up. Where would we end
up? The answer is that we would end up with a direct general fund
transfer.
Any Finance Committee member should be concerned about that bottom
line result and what that does to the trust fund concept and the
history of our committee's jurisdiction over that trust fund but, more
importantly, our responsibility we have to the Senate.
In the Finance Committee, we decided to maintain the relationship
between the trust fund receipts and the trust fund spending. It is so
important then to distinguish between trust fund receipts and revenues
that is counted for budget purposes.
Embedded in the trust funds are several policies that burden the
trust fund. The clearest of these, and one we always hear, is the
treatment of ethanol. The tax benefit for ethanol is the only--the
only--energy production incentive that is not borne by the general
fund. There are billions of dollars in tax benefits for oil and gas
that are charged to the general fund, for instance. Do Senators from
oil and gas States understand that the tax benefit for ethanol is the
only energy production incentive that is not borne directly by the
general fund?
Under current law, the use of ethanol is prejudiced in terms of the
highway trust fund resources. That is because the benefit is charged
against the trust fund up to this point when we adopt this legislation
because my VEETC proposal eliminated the inequity by making sure the
trust fund is fully funded by those who use ethanol fuel. For my
friends who are always criticizing, the tax benefit for ethanol, like
that of any other energy source, will be borne then by the general
fund.
There are numerous other exemptions from the fuel taxes in addition
to ethanol. These exemptions further important policy purposes but
purposes which are not embedded in highway policy. No one takes issue
with the exemption but whether they should be borne by the highway
trust fund. We don't hear that argument.
Contrary to what has been suggested, increasing highway funding in
this manner is not unlimited like the direct general fund transfers but
is limited by the universe of exemptions.
For the 20 other Senators who, like me, last year voted for lower
highway spending, they have an interest in what the Finance Committee
did. By maintaining the relationship between highway receipts and
spending, we maintain a ceiling on the spending. A direct general fund
transfer does not have such a limit.
I repeat and remind my colleagues, the bottom line is that the so-
called illusory receipts that Finance came up with result in a ceiling
on highway and transit spending. Don't these other 20 Senators want
some sort of a ceiling? The ceiling is not available with a direct
general fund transfer.
The Finance Committee bill contains a self-imposed ceiling that
relates the receipts to expenditures of the trust fund and everything
connected with the trust fund.
Do these receipts end up as refunds or exemptions? No, those are
legitimate policy choices made by Congress in law. I cited the case of
ethanol. There are others. Those receipts represent the burden users
put on our roads. The trust fund then properly accounts for these
users.
Where we have shifted the burden of an exemption or refund from the
highway trust fund to the general fund, the Finance Committee has
provided offsets. In the end the Finance Committee has made sure this
will not add to the deficit.
To those who choose to ignore the political reality of the Senate,
decisions made overwhelmingly by three other committees, decisions made
last year on the budget we are still operating under with only 21
dissenters, the rest of the Senate decided there ought to be more
massive amounts of money spent on roads.
That is the political reality of the Senate. I say to these people,
what would you do? What would you do to make the trust fund a relevant
part of the highway program, where it has been since we have had
Federal gas taxes? What would you do to maintain the relationship of
the trust fund receipts and trust fund spending? What would you do to
avoid an open-ended general fund transfer where there is lesser, or
maybe absent any, fiscal responsibility?
I get back to some old sayings that can say it better than I can, and
I think I read in Lyndon Johnson's biography, ``The Master of the
Senate,'' that Sam Rayburn said something about any jackass can push a
barn down, but it takes a carpenter to build one.
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We have a few people who are trying to kick the barn down. These
people are not really interested in building a barn like the three
authorizing committees are, as they tried to put something together.
Albeit there might be some sort of disagreement about exactly what the
right and ideal level of expenditure is, but they have worked hard. The
American people want us building the legislative barn.
I turn to these people who do not want to build this barn--our
Federal obligation under highways. It has been a pretty dominant
Federal policy since Eisenhower and the interstate system, and of
course a long time before that with other highways. They ought to quit
kicking and focus on the reality of getting this highway bill done. The
Finance Committee amendment took a step forward to getting this job
done.
The Finance Committee did the job. We provided the funding. More
importantly, we linked the highway receipts to the spending, and we did
this in a deficit-neutral way.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Missouri.
Mr. BOND. Mr. President, I thank the distinguished chairman of the
Finance Committee. I congratulate him and the ranking member for moving
forward. I found the comments of my neighbor in Iowa to be particularly
appropriate about the need to build the barn. Again, I express my
thanks to our colleagues on the Environment and Public Works Committee,
Senator Jeffords, Senator Reid, and the others, for moving forward.
Right now we are asking that Chairman Inhofe return. He has an
important meeting right now and he is going to come out to assure we
can get more of this bill moving. We have a very short time window
today. I know that on both sides of the aisle we would like to have
people come down, offer relevant amendments, try to get as much of this
bill moving as possible, and begin the voting process.
As I said, we have much work going on just off of the Senate floor as
we try to move this legislation forward. We have several more pieces of
SAFETEA to be brought forward. We are working with the other committees
involved to make sure they come forward. I believe Chairman Shelby from
the Banking Committee will arrive shortly to bring forth a mass transit
bill.
I suggest the absence of a quorum.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll.
The legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
Mr. INHOFE. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for
the quorum call be rescinded.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. INHOFE. Mr. President, at this time I would like to recognize
Senator Shelby for some comments about his amendment and then reclaim
the floor.
Mr. REID. Mr. President, reserving the right to object, was this a
unanimous consent request?
Mr. INHOFE. No.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator does not have the right to yield
the floor to another Senator.
The Senator from Alabama.
Amendment No. 2269
(Purpose: To amend chapter 53 of title 49, United States Code, relating
to the authorization of Federal funding for public transportation, and
for other purposes)
Mr. SHELBY. Mr. President, I send an amendment to the desk.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, the pending amendment is
set aside, and the clerk will report.
The legislative clerk read as follows:
The Senator from Alabama [Mr. Shelby] proposes an amendment
numbered 2269.
(The amendment is printed in today's Record under ``Text of
Amendments.'')
Mr. SHELBY. Mr. President, the text of this amendment is identical to
the legislation that the Banking Committee ordered reported from the
committee by a voice vote yesterday. In other words, it was a unanimous
vote in the Banking Committee.
I rise today in support of the Federal Public Transportation Act of
2004. This is the bill, as everyone knows, that was successfully
reported out of the Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs
yesterday.
I am proud of this piece of legislation which was crafted on a
bipartisan basis with cooperation from the distinguished Senator from
Maryland, Mr. Sarbanes, the committee's ranking member.
This amendment, which I hope will be part of the bill, provides
record growth for public transportation at $56.5 billion--a 57-percent
increase over TEA-21. This funding level tracks with the growth in the
highway program to $255 billion. This combined funding will go a long
way toward improving and expanding upon our Nation's transportation
infrastructure. I am pleased, as I said, to be working with the
Environment and Public Works Committee chairman, Senator Inhofe, to
accomplish this goal.
Our amendment, which will be part of the bill, we trust, accomplishes
three important policy goals. It creates funding flexibility, increases
accountability, and improves the performance and efficiency of the
transit programs in the United States.
The bill creates several new formulas to better address growing
transit needs. A rural low density formula is created to allow for
transit services in sparsely populated areas where employment centers
and health care are great distances apart. A growing States formula is
created to allow communities with populations projected to grow
significantly in the coming years to put in place needed transportation
infrastructure. A small transit intensive cities formula is created to
address the needs of communities where the level of transit service
exceeds what their population-based formula provides.
Our bill also creates a super-high density formula to provide
additional funding for States with transit needs that are particularly
great because they have transit systems in extremely urban areas with
high utilization rates.
The bill increases the accountability within the transit program. It
rewards transit agencies to deliver products that are on time, on
budget, and provide the benefits that they promised. Further, this bill
allows communities to consider more cost-effective, flexible solutions
to their transportation needs by opening up eligibility of a new starts
fund to nonfixed guideway projects under $75 million in cost. With this
change, other solutions can be fostered, such as bus rapid transit,
which can produce the majority of the benefit of rail at a fraction of
the cost.
Finally, the bill seeks to improve the performance and efficiency of
transit systems nationwide. It provides incentives for the coordination
of human service transportation activities to eliminate duplication and
overlap. It increases the focus on safety and security needs with
transit systems to insulate them against terrorist attacks. It also
enhances the role of the private sector in providing public
transportation in an effort to reduce costs and to improve service.
In short, the Federal Public Transportation Act is a good bill and
one that will dramatically improve the public transportation program to
help Americans with their mobility needs in urban and rural areas
nationwide.
I commend this to the Senate and ask my colleagues for their support.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Maryland.
Mr. SARBANES. Mr. President, I rise to join my distinguished
colleague from Alabama, chairman of the Senate Committee on Banking,
Housing, and Urban Affairs, in very strong support of the Federal
Public Transportation Act of 2004.
First, let me express my appreciation to the chairman of the Banking
Committee, Senator Shelby, who has worked assiduously on this
legislation, reaching across the aisle in a most cooperative manner to
develop a transit bill that will begin to address the urgent needs
faced by communities all across the country.
As a result of his efforts and those of other members of our
committee on the transit bill, the Federal Public Transportation Act of
2004 was reported out of the Banking Committee yesterday morning with
unanimous support. Every member of the committee supported this
legislation.
Let me also acknowledge the contributions made by Senator Allard of
Colorado and Senator Reed of Rhode Island, the chairman and ranking
member of our Housing and Transportation Subcommittee, who have worked
with us step by step to develop the package that is being brought to
the floor of the Senate.
I also thank the distinguished leadership of the Environment and
Public Works Committee, Chairman Inhofe
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and Ranking Member Jeffords, as well as the leadership of the Finance
Committee, Chairman Grassley and Ranking Member Baucus, with whom we
have worked closely in order to address a number of important issues
related to the financing of this bill. Without their help and the very
committed work of the Senate leadership, Majority Leader Frist and
Minority Leader Daschle, I doubt that we could be where we are today. I
think it is important to recognize the broad effort and the broad
support that exists for this legislation.
As we approached the expiration of the previous surface
transportation bill, the Transportation Equity Act for the 21st
Century, known as TEA-21, the Banking Committee and its Housing and
Transportation Subcommittee held a series of hearings--some at the full
committee level and some at the subcommittee level--on the Federal
transit program and its contribution to reducing congestion,
strengthening our national economy, and improving our quality of life.
Over the course of those hearings, which extended over roughly a 2-
year period, we heard testimony from dozens of witnesses, including
Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta, Federal Transit
Administrator Jenna Dorn, representatives of transit agencies from
around the country, mayors, business and labor leaders,
environmentalists, and transit riders--virtually all of the
stakeholders in this important matter--and including economic
development experts, a very important dimension of this, to which I
will refer again shortly.
Virtually all of the witnesses we heard agreed that the investment
that had been made under TEA-21--in other words, the predecessor
legislation to what we are now considering in the Senate--contributed
to a renaissance for transit in this country. In fact, transit has
experienced the highest percentage of ridership growth among all modes
of surface transportation, growing almost 30 percent between 1993 and
2001.
We also heard testimony about the other benefits of transit. For
example, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce testified that $1 billion of
capital investment in transit creates almost 50,000 jobs. Moreover, the
economic development benefits of transit are becoming more and more
apparent as new systems come into service. For example, we heard
testimony from one of the county commissioners in Dallas that over $1
billion had been invested in private development along Dallas's
existing and future light rail lines, raising nearby property values
and supporting thousands of jobs.
We heard from a representative of BellSouth that his company decided
to relocate almost 10,000 employees from scattered sites in suburban
Atlanta to three downtown buildings near the MARTA rail stations
because, as he put it, transit ``saves employees time. It saves
employees money. It saves wear and tear on the employees' spirit.''
Transit benefits the economy in other ways as well. For example,
transit investments in one community can have repercussions in many
areas around the country. The president of the American Public
Transportation Association, Bill Millar, who has testified before the
Senate on a number of occasions and has brought extraordinary
leadership to this effort, pointed out that when one locality builds a
rail system or develops its bus system, much of that construction or
the assembly of those buses may well be done in a different
jurisdiction. So one has to keep in mind when considering the economic
benefits, it is not just the area that is upgrading the transit system
that is getting the money, but that area in turn is spending its money
on a whole range of supplies and services which take place elsewhere in
the country. When Texas cities buy buses, for example, it may be a
company in Colorado that is producing the buses. As Mr. Millar said,
``While the Federal money would appear to be going one place, the
impact of that money tends to go very far and wide.''
Of course, transit is about more than our economic life. It is also
about our quality of life. During our hearings, we heard a great deal
about the importance of transit to our senior citizens, our young
people, the disabled, and others who rely on transit for their daily
mobility needs. There is a population out there, significant in number,
whose mobility depends on transit systems. They do not have the
alternative of the automobile.
Several of our witnesses observed that the increased investment in
transit and paratransit services under TEA-21, the previous
legislation, provided the crucial link between home and a job, school,
or a doctor's office, for millions of people who might not otherwise
have been able to participate fully in the life of their community.
Further, we saw after September 11 how transit can be an important
lifeline in other respects, as well. We had very moving testimony
during our hearings about the efforts made by transit operators on that
day to move tens of thousands of people quickly and safely out of our
city centers.
As a result of transit's many benefits, the demand for transit is
continuing to increase all across the Nation. States that for a long
time had no interest in transit now have a very keen interest in
transit. I say to the Presiding Officer, the State of Nevada is
developing major transit in the Las Vegas area, for example, and it is
made necessary by the population explosion which has taken place in
that State over recent decades. Small towns, rural areas, suburban
jurisdictions, large cities, all are struggling to keep up with the
need to provide safe and reliable transit service for their citizens.
The Department of Transportation has estimated that nationally
communities will need $14 billion per year in capital investment simply
to maintain the condition and performance of their transit systems, let
alone what is necessary to improve conditions and service. If we do not
make this investment today, we will be left with deteriorating
infrastructure and worsening congestion tomorrow and that, of course,
would be a depressing influence on our economy and would undermine our
economic strength and vitality.
The legislation before the Senate authorizes $56.5 billion in transit
investment over the next 6 years. This is the amount approved by the
Senate during consideration of the fiscal 2004 budget resolution and
represents a substantial increase over TEA-21. Most experts conclude it
is not adequate to address all the transit needs of the Nation, but it
does represent a significant step forward in our efforts to improve our
citizens' mobility and strengthen our national economy through
investments in our transportation infrastructure.
The legislation maintains a feature of both ISTEA and TEA-21, the two
previous surface transportation acts, namely, parity between the
transit program and the highway program so that they will be able to
move ahead in a parallel and comparable fashion. We are appreciative of
our colleagues on other committees for recognizing the importance of
that proposition.
Moreover, the legislation maintains the existing 80% Federal match on
new starts transit projects. Again, that maintains the parallelism that
has existed between highways and transit so that the decision being
made at the local level is not weighted in one direction or the other
because of the match that is required in order to move forward with the
transportation infrastructure. Mayor McCrory of Charlotte, North
Carolina, made this point at one of our hearings when he observed that
``there's a strong need to keep the program 80-20, as we do for other
forms of transportation, including roads. That does send a strong
message that transit is as important as our road network.''
The proposal brought forward by Chairman Shelby provides for growth
in both the urban and rural formula program, with added emphasis placed
on the rural program. The committee was sensitive to the needs of the
rural areas of our country, and the rural program will see significant
growth in order to help States with large rural areas provide the
services their residents need.
The bill also increases the Fixed Guideway Modernization Program.
This funding is very important to helping cities with older rail
systems, which in some cases were built almost a century ago, make the
investments needed to preserve those highly successful systems, which
move millions of people every working day.
The New Starts program, which helps communities make their first
major investment in transit as well as expand
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existing systems, also grows under this bill. The New Starts program
will allow communities to address their growing needs with transit
investment and gain the benefits of transit that exist elsewhere in the
country.
The bill makes a significant change in the New Starts program by
allowing New Starts funding to be used for the first time to fund
transit projects that do not operate along a fixed guideway, as long as
the project is seeking less than $75 million in Federal funds. There
are a few projects of this type currently operating the Nation, and I
hope to work with the Federal Transit Administration to ensure that the
FTA develops an appropriate quantitative methodology for evaluating the
costs and benefits of such projects, particularly as they relate to
land use and economic development impacts. As we begin to experiment
with different forms of transit service, we must be careful not to
adversely impact FTA's highly competitive and successful process for
moving projects through the New Starts program.
While the bill preserves the general structure of TEA-21, several new
formulas are included to target transit funds more directly to those
states and cities with extraordinary transportation needs. The bill
includes a new Growth and Density Formula: the growth portion will
distribute funds to all states based on their expected future
population, and the density portion will provide funding to those
states whose populations are above a certain density threshold. The
bill also includes an incentive tier to reward small transit-intensive
cities--those cities with a population between 50,000 and 200,000 which
provide higher-than-average amounts of transit service. The funds
distributed under these new formulas will help communities address
their unique transportation needs.
So there is an effort in this legislation to recognize the various
types of transit needs across the Nation. Of course, as you do any
formula, no one gets as much as they would like to get, but you work
within certain constraints. Given the framework within which the
committee had to work, I think we have responded fairly and rationally
to the needs that have been expressed to us. We have a new growth and
density formula in this legislation. We make some changes in the fixed
guideway program to give a little more discretion for smaller projects.
But, all in all, I think this is a balanced package. I commend it to my
colleagues, and of course I am happy to discuss with any of them any
questions they may have.
I want to highlight just a few more of the bill's provisions. The
bill includes a requirement that metropolitan planning organizations
develop a public participation plan to ensure that public
transportation employees, affected community members, users of public
transportation, freight shippers, private sector providers--all the
interested parties concerned about the transportation infrastructure--
have an opportunity to participate in the transportation plan approval
process. Transportation investments are among the most important
decisions made at the local level. I firmly believe all interested
parties should have an opportunity to contribute to this process. Our
transportation infrastructure is central to making our economy, and
indeed our society in a broader sense, work day to day. That is why
this is such a critical and important piece of legislation.
I am pleased that the legislation includes a new transit in parks
program to help national parks and other public lands find alternative
transportation solutions to the traffic problems they are now facing.
This is a program the administration supports, and it has had very
strong bipartisan support in the Senate. It is an effort to address the
problem, made manifest in certain of our Western national parks, of the
overcrowding that has come with increased visitation. You have people
who wait in line all day long to get into Yosemite, for example. They
get to the entrance and they cannot get in, because the park's roads
and parking lots are at capacity. It is a very serious problem.
TEA-21 required the Department of Transportation to conduct a study
of alternative transportation needs in our national parks and other
public lands, and that study confirmed that the parks are ready and
willing to develop transit alternatives. This legislation will help the
parks make investments in traditional public transit, such as shuttle
buses or trolleys, or other types of public transportation appropriate
to the park setting, such as waterborne transportation or bicycle and
pedestrian facilities.
I also want to note that the bill makes a number of modifications to
section 5333(b), known as section 13(c), the transit employee labor
protections. These provisions were the result of extended discussions
between the transit labor unions and members of the committee who were
concerned about the impact of 13(c) on the transit program. I note that
section 13(c) has been a part of every transit bill since 1964,
providing crucial collective bargaining and job right protections. It
has served to unify a broad coalition of transit industry and employee
representatives to form a unique partnership which has worked together
to expand the Federal transit program to what it is today: an
unequivocal success. I want to mention one modification which addresses
the concerns of members regarding issues arising when one private
contractor replaces another private contractor through competitive
bidding. Such rights were addressed in the Department of Labor's Las
Vegas decision dated September 21, 1994, as amplified by letter dated
November 7, 1994. This legislation includes language in section 13(c)
to ensure that the Department of Labor's decisions involving so-called
``contractor to contractor rights'' are governed by the standards set
forth in the Department's Las Vegas rulings, without otherwise
affecting employee rights under section 13(c). In addition, I note that
the changes to section 13(c) are not intended to impact the level of
protections covering freight rail employees existing on the date
immediately preceding enactment of this act.
There are a number of other provisions in the legislation that modify
previous aspects of the transit programs, but for the most part the
committee's intention was not to enact major changes to a program that
has worked well.
For example, while the bill enhances the role of private-sector
transit providers in several ways, it was not intended to change the
long-standing congressional policy that decisions involving the choice
between public and private transit operators should be left to local
authorities who are better equipped to make local transportation
decisions, and the Federal Government should remain neutral with
respect to such local decision-making. In addition, while the
definition of public transportation is modified slightly in the bill,
the intent is to clarify, rather than change, the universe of modes and
services encompassed by that definition.
And as I indicated earlier, some of the changes with respect to the
formula seek to be sensitive to ensuring that all parts of the country
can participate in the transit programs. But we have tried to
essentially maintain most of the previous arrangements which have
worked so successfully.
I conclude by saying that this amendment provides essential support
to our local and State partners in their efforts to combat congestion
and pollution and to ensure that their citizens can access safe and
reliable transit services. That is why the bill is strongly supported
by a number of associations representing local officials, transit
providers, environmental groups, and others.
In a letter received by the committee yesterday, the American Public
Transportation Association stated:
We support your commitment to retain the overall structure
of the federal transit program and the decision to increase
federal investment in transit infrastructure. This increased
investment will not only improve and modernize the nation's
transportation system, but it will also create and sustain
millions of badly needed jobs.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that that letter, along with
other letters of support, be printed in the Record at the conclusion of
my remarks.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
(See exhibit 1.)
Mr. SARBANES. Mr. President, I will close by saying, as these letters
demonstrate, the legislation we are considering today is vitally
important to
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keep America moving forward in the 21st century. It is no exaggeration
to say this is essential legislation for the future strength and
vitality of our economy and of our society. I very strongly urge my
colleagues to support the legislation that has been brought forward
from the Banking Committee, as I said, on a unanimous vote in a markup
yesterday morning.
I yield the floor.
Exhibit 1
Community Transportation
Association,
February 5, 2004.
Hon. Richard Shelby,
Chairman, Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban
Affairs, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Washington, DC.
Hon. Paul S. Sarbanes,
Ranking Minority Member, Senate Committee on Banking, Housing
and Urban Affairs, Dirksen Senate Office Building,
Washington, DC.
Dear Senators Shelby and Sarbanes: We'd like to take this
opportunity on behalf of our more than 7,000 members
providing community and public transportation services around
the nation, as well as the millions of Americans who rely on
these services every day, to commend you for your leadership
in the creation of the Federal Public Transportation Act of
2004.
This groundbreaking legislation builds the kind of 21st
century transportation network our nation needs. We're
pleased that it recognizes the real character of public
transportation and invests in transit for communities of all
sizes and locations. At long last, this bill begins to
adequately address the transportation needs of rural
Americans and of senior citizens.
Much of the success we've enjoyed in the past six years in
community and public transportation was based upon the
innovative guarantees and protections for transit financing
made by the federal government in TEA-21. Continuing these
guarantees in this important legislation is essential.
There's an old proverb that says the journey of a thousand
miles begins with a single step. This bill is a giant step
toward building the foundation for America's transportation
future.
We're grateful. Thank you on behalf of our members, and on
behalf of the American people.
Sincerely,
Dale J. Marsico,
CCTM, Executive Director.
____
American Public
Transportation Association,
Washington DC, February 4, 2004.
Hon. Paul S. Sarbanes,
Ranking Minority member, Senate Committee on Banking, Housing
and Urban Affairs, Dirksen Senate Office Building,
Washington, DC.
Dear Senator Sarbanes: On behalf of the 1,500 member
organizations of the American Public Transportation
Association (APTA), I write to express our appreciation for
your outstanding efforts in marking up the Federal Public
Transportation Act of 2004 today. We strongly support the
bill and urge Senators to oppose any amendments that would
upset the carefully crafted compromise that the Banking
Committee developed. In addition, we understand that an
amendment will be offered to guarantee funding for transit
and highway investment authorized under the transportation
bill (S. 1072) now under consideration on the Senate floor.
We strongly support that amendment as well, and urge the
Senate to adopt it.
about APTA
APTA is a nonprofit international trade organization of
more than 1,500 public and private member organizations
including transit systems and commuter railroads; planning,
design, construction and finance firms, product and service
providers; academic institutions, state associations and
departments of transportation. APTA members serve the public
interest by providing safe, efficient and economical transit
services and products. Over ninety percent of riders using
public transportation in the United States and Canada are
served by APTA member systems.
senate banking committee bill
APTA applauds your leadership in crafting this important
legislation. We support your commitment to retain the overall
structure of the federal transit program and the decision to
increase federal investment in transit infrastructure. This
increased investment will not only improve and modernize the
nation's transportation system, but it will also create and
sustain millions of badly needed jobs.
conclusion
Again, please accept APTA's gratitude and support for your
efforts. We look forward to working with you to enact
legislation that addresses the nation's critical need to
maintain and improve our surface transportation
infrastructure. If we can be of assistance in any way please
have your staff contact me or Rob Healy of APTA's Government
Affairs staff.
Sincerely yours,
William W. Millar,
President.
____
The United States
Conference of Mayors,
February 5, 2004.
Hon. William H. Frist,
U.S. Senate, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Washington, DC.
Hon. Thomas A. Daschle,
U.S. Senate, Hart Senate Office Building, Washington, DC.
Hon. Richard C. Shelby,
U.S. Senate, Hart Senate Office Building, Washington, DC.
Hon. Paul S. Sarbanes,
U.S. Senate, Hart Senate Office Building, Washington, DC.
Dear Senators: In January the United States Conference of
Mayors met in Washington, D.C. for our 72nd Winter Meeting to
chart a new agenda for keeping America's metropolitan
economies strong. The cornerstone of that agenda is the
reauthorization of TEA-21 that invests in public transit.
From that discussion we write to express our support for
the Senate Banking Committee transit title funding level
providing $56.5 billion over six years for the federal
transit program with at least $47 billion of the $56.5
billion for the transit program from the Mass Transit Account
of the Highway Trust Fund. We also urge you to protect the
funding guarantees and firewall for the transit program in
its entirety.
Mayors know all too well the negative impacts of increasing
congestion on our cities and recognize that anything less
than $56.5 billion for transit will continue America's
dependence on the automobile and continue the funding
challenges for the rail modernization, new starts, and bus
programs.
We applaud the Banking Committee's work on reauthorizing
the transit title of TEA-21 and look forward to providing
further feedback on other issues in the bill once we are able
to review the entire proposal. With strong backing from
mayors across the nation, we stand ready to work with you on
the reauthorization of TEA-21.
Sincerely,
James A. Garner,
Mayor of Hempstead, President.
____
February 5, 2004.
Hon. Richard Shelby,
Chairman, Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban
Affairs, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Washington, DC.
Hon. Paul S. Sarbanes,
Ranking Minority Member, Senate Committee on Banking, Housing
and Urban Affairs, Dirksen Senate Office Building,
Washington, DC.
Dear Chairman Shelby and Ranking Minority Member Sarbanes:
On behalf of the Surface Transportation Policy Project and
its many partner organizations, we are writing to convey our
support for the ``Federal Public Transportation Act of
2004'', legislation approved February 4 that provides for a
6-year, $56.5 billion program commitment to public
transportation as well as other critical transportation
policies under your Committee's jurisdiction.
We want to commend you and members of the Committee for
renewing the key program elements of current law, ensuring
that the recent successes in improving public transportation
services under TEA-21 will continue into this next renewal
period. Our support for this package, however, is conditioned
upon resolving outstanding funding issues with the full
Senate regarding funding guarantees and firewalled spending
to ensure that the critical feature of TEA-21 that made
expanded transit investment and improved services possible is
part of the final package. This must ensure that transit
providers, other agencies and the public can count on the
full $56.5 billion over the 6-year renewal period.
Specifically, we want to applaud your efforts to protect
the core elements of the existing program structure, ranging
from continuation of the Rail Modernization program to the
Jobs Access and Reverse Commute program, while finding
resources to support new policy efforts such as those
envisioned under the President's New Freedom Initiative and
Transit in the Parks program. Finally, we also want to convey
our support for the Committee's affirmation of current law
protections for clean air conformity and other clean air-
related provisions as well as preserving other important
current law policies governing NEPA and other project
delivery elements. It is our firm position that final
provisions in the Senate bill must fully account for the need
to consider fairly and fully transportation alternatives that
minimize or avoid adverse impacts and affirm locally
determined priorities. In this way, this renewal legislation
will ensure that State and local investment decisions are
more balanced, offering more choices to the public and making
continuing gains in air quality and other community health
and environmental objectives.
We support your legislation with the aforementioned
condition and urge your colleagues to support it fully during
Senate action on TEA-21 renewal.
Sincerely,
America Bikes, Association for Commuter Transportation,
American Society of Landscape Architects, Chicago
Bicycle Federation, Environmental and Energy Study
Institute, Environmental Defense, National Association
of Railroad Passengers, National Parks Conservation
Association, National Recreation and Park Association,
Natural Resources Defense Council, Sierra Club, Smart
Growth America, Surface Transportation Policy Project,
Union of Concerned Scientist.
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The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Nevada.
Mr. REID. While the ranking member and the chairman are in the
Chamber, I wish to express my appreciation--and I think that of the
entire Senate--for the bipartisan bill that is now going to be part of
this highway bill. These two men--the senior Senator from Alabama and
the senior Senator from Maryland--are legislators. They are
experienced. They understand when there is a time to be partisan and
when there is a time not to be partisan. They understand when it is
important to move forward for the good of this country. And that is
what they did.
Without their leadership, we could not be in our present position. We
have the highway portion of this bill that has been laid down. We have
a few of our little technical things to do before they are joined
together perfectly, but the transit portion of the bill--they are both
excellent pieces of legislation. The transit portion of the bill
affects all of our country.
As the Presiding Officer knows, the city of Las Vegas--and Reno to a
lesser extent--is very dependent on transit moneys now. I cannot say
enough to express my personal appreciation and that of the Senate for
the work done by these two fine men. This is good legislation. I hope
we can move forward on it quickly.
I wish to say, after having issued this compliment, with which I want
the Record to be spread, that I have worked with Senator Inhofe on this
legislation for now more than a year, and Senator Bond, and, of course,
my distinguished former chairman and ranking member, Senator Jeffords.
The concern I see at this stage--we have been on this bill for some
time now, a matter of days--is that we have not moved far. We started
at the goal line, and we are at about the 5-yard line. We have to get
to the other goal line, which is 95 yards away.
There is an issue that has been brought up by the distinguished
senior Senator from the State of New Hampshire. I was talking to some
of my friends earlier today. We have very few people in this
legislative body who are as experienced as the senior Senator from New
Hampshire--a House of Representatives Member, Governor, now a Senator--
and he has brought forward an amendment he believes in, and he is not
going to leave until something happens on this amendment. He may leave
physically, but he is going to be around here. We are going to have to
dispose of this amendment.
It is obvious now that the majority will not accept a voice vote. We
do not have enough votes to table the amendment, and I would not vote
to table his amendment anyway. So we have, on this amendment, a
filibuster. That is what it is. It is a filibuster by I don't know how
many members of the majority, but at least one.
I think we should recognize that it is holding up this bill. This
bill is a very important piece of legislation: $255 billion that has
been supported by trust fund moneys--all but $30 billion of it. The
other $30 billion has been accounted for.
In my opinion, the administration has signed off on this. Any veto
threat they have issued has been related to what they are trying to do
in the House. So as hard as the chairman of the committee, Senator
Inhofe, has worked, he cannot do anything as long as he has people on
his side trying to hold up this bill. I think there has to be a
decision made on what we are going to do about this. We have spent a
couple of days hoping the senior Senator from New Hampshire would go
away. I have had a lot of experience with him and he doesn't go away
very easily.
I think we should recognize that we have an amendment that is popular
and it has been brought here previously and more than 50 people will
support his amendment. Whether 60 people will support it is another
question. The leadership should understand that this bill is not going
anyplace until we dispose of this amendment. It is extraneous, as the
chairman will recognize. On this side, we believe in this bill and we
thought, at least during this week, there should be no extraneous
amendments offered.
We want to get the bill passed. This is important to the people of
this country. If we want to create jobs, this is the way to do it: pass
the highway bill. As many as 2 million jobs could be created with this
highway bill. So I hope the majority realizes the predicament they are
in. We are willing to work with them in any reasonable way to try to
move beyond where we are today. Just giving speeches out here on the
bill is not going to do the trick. If we want to pass the bill, we are
going to have to, in effect, get rid of the Gregg amendment. I have to
be careful how I say this. One of my friends told me something the
other day. We were in a huddle talking about the bill, and I said: We
are going to have to figure out a way to get rid of Judd Gregg.
He said: You better be careful saying stuff like that. In England,
the history is very clear that on the occasion when the King said the
Archbishop is causing me a lot of problems, a couple days later three
people went out and assassinated the Archbishop.
We certainly don't mean to apply that to Judd Gregg. We are talking
about his amendment, not him personally. It is a problem with his
amendment.
Mr. INHOFE. Mr. President, first of all, I am sure we all appreciate
that clarification. I often wish the Senators who are not on the
committee knew the time, effort, the bridges we have crossed, the
compromises we have made, and the time we have spent. We have some
provisions that have nothing to do with the formula or the issues or
the nongermane issues that the Senator from New Hampshire has. It has
been very difficult. It has taken many hours and committee hearings. We
have had people coming in from local governments and State governments
to get where we are today.
We would like to have gotten to this point back when the other
authorization ran out but were unable to do it. We made a commitment
that we would be there, and we are capable of being there now when this
expires on February 29. So there is going to be every effort to get
that done.
I know the Senator from Rhode Island wants to be heard. It will be my
intention to reclaim the floor at the conclusion of his remarks.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Rhode Island is recognized.
Mr. REED. Mr. President, I commend Chairman Inhofe for his great
effort to move the highway provisions forward. I very much would like
to speak about the public transit issue.
Let me begin by commending Chairman Shelby and Ranking Member
Sarbanes for their extraordinary efforts on a bipartisan basis to
ensure that we continue the success that we have enjoyed since TEA-21
with our public transit programs throughout the country. I also thank
Senators Daschle, Jeffords, Santorum, and Baucus for their efforts to
convince the Finance Committee to provide us with the adequate
resources that were necessary to bring this transit bill to the floor.
The bill before us today is a strong step forward toward meeting our
Nation's significant transit needs. Over the course of the last 2
years, I had the opportunity, first, to serve as chairman of the
Subcommittee on Housing and Transportation of the Banking Committee,
and then as ranking member to my colleague, Senator Wayne Allard of
Colorado. Our joint tenure as chair and ranking member, respectively,
allowed us to look deeply at the issues confronting transit throughout
the United States. We had a number of hearings and we were able to get
a broad-based spectrum of witnesses to talk about the successes and the
challenges that face transit throughout the United States.
We heard from each region of the country--northern and southern,
rural and urban. Mass transit is not exclusive to one region. In fact,
what we are finding throughout the country, particularly as
metropolitan areas grow and transit needs increase and commuting
increases, every community is looking for ways to incorporate transit
in their overall transportation plan--not simply to move people but
also to meet environmental standards, which are increasingly difficult
to achieve without some type of transit system. We heard from
businesspeople, environmentalists, senior citizens, the disabled, and
those making the transition from welfare to work. We heard from the
administration and from academics who are experts in the field of
transit.
Now, while these witnesses did not agree about every detail, they
shared
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one central message: TEA-21 works. The current Federal program for
transit support works very well, but preserving that success is
jeopardized by one simple thing: resources. We have to reinforce
success. If we do not provide the resources and continued commitment,
we will lose that success; we will disadvantage communities throughout
this country.
Mr. President, I am very pleased today that the bill we have before
us in the Senate makes some changes to current law, but it takes that
central message to heart and provides increased resources to meet the
demands of all of our communities for more effective public
transportation.
When we passed TEA-21 years ago, transit funding doubled and
ridership rose by 28 percent--faster than any other mode of
transportation. Mass transit is increasing faster in terms of its use
by the American public than any other form of transportation. Another
example is how this program is being successfully greeted
enthusiastically by people throughout this country. It is my hope the
bill before us, which would provide $56.5 billion for transit of all
types, can help achieve the same levels of return on our investment,
and that we see a continued increase in ridership and use. That has a
positive effect in terms of moving people throughout metropolitan areas
and rural areas to get to their jobs. It has a positive effect in terms
of making the cost of transportation lower for most people. Also, as I
mentioned, it has beneficial environmental effects.
This bill would increase our transit formula programs by 56 percent,
on average, and no State sees a rate of increase below 37 percent for
its apportionment, and the vast majority of States are at or above the
national average.
The bill is not just an urban transit bill. Indeed, rural transit
programs would grow from $1 billion under TEA-21 to almost $3 billion
under this legislation.
The committee also responded to the needs of States experiencing the
highest rates of population growth and those States with high levels of
population density by creating a new program to address the traffic
congestion so commonly experienced in these areas.
The bill also increases funding for the Elderly and Disabled Transit
Program from $90 million in the current fiscal year to $187 million in
fiscal year 2005 and would continue to increase this essential program
to a total of $248 million in fiscal year 2009.
This legislation will also provide significantly greater
discretionary funding to improve our Nation's bus fleets and expand or
construct new transit projects.
One of the areas that was of great concern to Senator Allard and I in
our deliberations was the impact of 9/11 on our transit system. This
legislation recognizes that after 9/11, we can't assume that transit is
just business as usual. We all recognize the vital role that transit
played in mitigating the damages, both in New York City and in
Washington, DC.
The transit system in Washington, DC, was remarkable in terms of
moving and evacuating the city. The transit system in New York City was
critical in literally saving thousands of lives as alert and
experienced transit operators were able to close stations, move people
out of stations, reroute trains, and save thousands of lives. We have
to learn from that example. We have to incorporate in this
legislation--and I am proud to say we do--the responsibility and also
the flexibility so that local communities can use transit funds to
prepare their workforce for these types of dangers. It is something
that is necessary and something, indeed, I am proud to see.
We held two hearings in the subcommittee with respect to transit
safety issues. In addition to that, Senator Sarbanes and I commissioned
a GAO study to look at the security needs for transit systems. Those
needs are significant. This bill at least attempts to provide the
resources to begin dealing seriously with those transit security needs.
Indeed, I am glad recommendations by the GAO have been incorporated
in the bill before us. I am particularly pleased that urban grant
recipients will be able to use their Federal funds to better train
their personnel in security needs, as well as conduct emergency
response drills to prepare for a potential terrorist incident. Such
training is one of the single most important things that transit
agencies can do to improve their passenger security.
This is an important step forward toward improved transit security.
But there are two other issues that Congress and the administration
must address.
First, the Department of Homeland Security must formally accept its
responsibility for protecting the millions of Americans who ride our
bus and rail systems every day. I hope to offer an amendment, when
appropriate, to this legislation to ensure the Department of Homeland
Security does take these responsibilities seriously. And second,
improved transit security will require more resources than we are able
to provide within the context of this reauthorization bill. I hope I
can count on all of my colleagues to support increased funding for the
Department of Homeland Security appropriations so that it can use those
funds to enhance the security of transit systems throughout this
country.
One of the unfortunate aspects of the world in which we live is that
our foes seek the weakest links when they choose to attack us.
Unfortunately, we have not invested in transit security to the degree
we have in aviation and port security. It is, unfortunately, the
weakest link, and we have to improve it.
Transit is an essential part of our Nation's economy in every region
of the country. The investments in this legislation will help to ease
congestion on our highways, reduce pollution, and provide for a
smoother functioning and more efficient economy. I urge all of my
colleagues to support this important measure.
Once again, I commend Chairman Shelby and Ranking Member Sarbanes for
their great efforts, and also Senator Inhofe and Senator Jeffords for
their leadership on the highway bill.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Vermont.
Mr. JEFFORDS. Mr. President, I thank the chairman and ranking member
of the Banking Committee not only for their work on this important part
of the legislation but also for their willingness to work with me to
reconcile the environmental provisions that are contained in this
amendment with the provisions contained in S. 1072.
S. 1072 amends title 23 of the United States Code to provide for
adjustments in the transportation planning process. The amendment the
Banking Committee has admirably drafted contains similar provisions
that amend title 49 of the code.
I understand that for the sake of good policy--that is, minimal
confusion to the entities that must implement this law--the chairman
and ranking member are willing to work with us to craft provisions that
are consistent with the two titles. I thank the Senators for their
help.
Mr. President, I am also very pleased that the bill the Environment
and Public Works Committee reported contains a provision that will help
fund community efforts to provide safe routes to schools for
schoolchildren who walk or who ride their bikes to school.
This would include funding for overpasses, underpasses, red lights,
or other ways to help reduce accidents and keep schoolchildren safer.
The exact use of the funds would depend on the needs of the local
community. The funding is important because many school districts have
a policy of prohibiting bus service for children living within a mile
or perhaps a half mile of the school.
A National Academy of Sciences report shows that, on average, almost
16,000 schoolage children per year are injured or killed during normal
school travel hours. Let me repeat that number. Almost 16,000
schoolchildren are injured or killed during normal school travel hours.
Thus, I support strong funding for safer routes to the schools.
I know that in my home State of Vermont, especially in the dark
winter mornings when it is icy, schoolchildren can be at risk while
walking to school. When Vermont warms up, many schoolchildren may
choose to ride bikes to school, and we should make it as safe as
possible for them to get safely to and from school.
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Often school districts do not provide bus service to children living
near the schools they attend. Yet research shows that many children are
injured within a mile or so of their homes.
The provision in our bill will provide $70 million per year to help
States and local communities reduce these serious risks to
schoolchildren. The committee report notes that the purpose of this
program is to enable and to encourage children to walk and bicycle to
school and encourages a healthy and active lifestyle by making walking
and biking to school safer or a more appealing transportation
alternative for those living close to school.
I look forward to working with the other body on this important
initiative. I know that safe routes to schools is important to my
friend, Congressman Oberstar, and to a great many of his colleagues.
I thank Senators Inhofe and Bond for working with Senator Reid and me
on this important issue. We worked out a strong provision regarding
safe routes to school.
Mr. President, I wish to briefly discuss the freight provisions we
have included in this bill. We have crafted a package that provides
considerable flexibility to States and metropolitan planning
organizations in addressing freight rail concerns.
We have made improvements to intermodal freight transportation
projects eligible for the Surface Transportation Program and the
National Highway System funding.
We will have each State designate a freight coordinator to assist in
integrating freight concerns into statewide planning and metropolitan
planning.
We have also included funding to improve the condition and
performance of the National Highway System intermodal connectors. These
connectors are those last mile connections to ports and other freight-
related facilities that experience a high volume of traffic and have
not received the proper amount of attention in the past.
These freight rail provisions make our bill very responsive to the
needs of the freight community.
These are important sections of the bill. I wish to emphasize the
need for transit improvement. As we travel around this Nation, from
California to New York--wherever we go--we have to develop better ways
for our transit systems to be more effective. Looking worldwide, we
have seen incredible improvements in some countries that are very
populous with the utilization of new transit systems and new modes of
transportation, such as maglev and other evolving systems. This is very
important, and it is going to be more important as we continue to go
forward and continue to increase the number of automobiles on our
highways.
Mr. President, I yield the floor.
Mr. INHOFE. Before the Senator yields the floor, will he yield for a
question?
First, I appreciate the fact the ranking member of the committee is
bringing up these issues. Everything he mentioned was controversial.
Fortunately, we didn't have to handle a lot of the problems with
transit because that was done in another committee, and I certainly
commend the chairman of the committee, as well as the ranking
member, as well as the subcommittee ranking member and subcommittee
chairman. I understand the subcommittee chairman is going to come on
the floor and make some comments.
When the Senator talks about safe routes to school, I think that is a
good example of the weeks and months we spent coming to an agreement.
Frankly, Senator Jeffords is the one driving force to get up from $50
million to $75 million. I felt that perhaps priorities could be in some
other areas.
In looking at this, I want to commend the Senator for the work he did
because I think he is right. We probably spent several months just on
the freight area. Everyone knows that was not adequately addressed in
TEA-21 and was not adequately addressed in ISTEA. I appreciate very
much the time the Senator has spent in these very sensitive and
controversial areas where it was give and take, it was compromise. Many
times we gave up something we believed in in order to accomplish it and
come up with a bill, a good bill, which we have right now.
Mr. JEFFORDS. I thank my chairman. I understand his dedication to
doing so much more as we go forward. We are accomplishing a lot today,
and yet we still have to sit down and look to the future as soon as we
are done with the present.
Mr. INHOFE. I thank the Senator.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Oklahoma.
Mr. INHOFE. I ask if the chairman of the committee has any further
comments to make concerning this particular part of the bill, the
transit portion.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Alabama.
Mr. SHELBY. Mr. President, I hope we can get together in the hours to
come and try to put a package together, perhaps, and move this bill.
This is an important bill in America for highways and transit. It
affects everybody in America. It affects every Congressman's district,
every Senator, and I think it is too important to ignore in any way.
I commend the senior Senator from Oklahoma, the chairman of the
committee, for the work he has done. He has been pushing this highway
bill--I know because he has been pushing me--for months and months. I
do not know how many hours of work he and his staff have put in, along
with Senator Jeffords, Senator Bond, and others. This is just too
important. It affects so many Americans. It covers everything dealing
with our infrastructure, and it will be good for the economy.
The Presiding Officer comes from one of the fastest growing States in
the United States. Moving people in his State, as well as a lot of
others, is very important. There has to be lead time to plan. I believe
this is a good bill, considering everything. We have put it together in
a bipartisan way in the Banking Committee where we, as well as the
other committee, have authorization for transit. I stand ready to work
with the principals to move this bill as soon as possible.
I yield the floor.
Mr. JEFFORDS. Mr. President, I recognize my good friend from
Maryland.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Maryland.
Mr. SARBANES. Mr. President, I concur with the remarks made by
Chairman Shelby. I think they are right on point. I want to stress
again to my colleagues, as I understand it, the highway bill was
brought out of the Environment and Public Works Committee with an
overwhelming vote, almost unanimous but not quite. I think there were
two exceptions, but otherwise all members of that committee on both
sides of the aisle were supportive of this legislation.
The transit part that is being offered as a title or an amendment to
the highway bill came out of the Banking Committee with a unanimous
vote. I think this reflects the fact that in both venues, both forums,
a major effort was made over a sustained period of time to address the
problems Members confronted and to try to develop a formula, an
allocation, and other provisions of the legislation that would be
responsive to their needs.
So I say to my colleagues, this is legislation that has been very
carefully developed. It has been worked over and over and I think it is
a very good product. I think it has struck a very good balance. I think
it contains within it a vision for the country.
There is a clamor across the country for this legislation on the part
of the public and on the part of all of the stakeholders who deal with
these issues. State governments, local governments, the various highway
and transit groups, business interests, labor interests, are all
strongly supportive of this legislation.
The reason they are so strongly supportive is because they recognize
this legislation is critical to moving the Nation ahead. It is
essential for the economy. It is essential for enhancing the quality of
life. People are spending hours trying to get to and from work and we
need to help address that issue. Seniors, young people, and the
disabled need these various forms of transportation in order to live
their lives. I strongly commend this legislation to my colleagues. A
great deal of work has gone into it by many Members of this body. I
think it is very important that we move this legislation forward and
over the next few days to come, I hope we will be able to accomplish
that and put into place this extremely important legislation.
Actually, in one of the statements of the majority leader he
indicated he
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thought this might well be the most important legislation to be
considered by this body in this session of the Congress. I do not think
that is an overstatement and I again commend this legislation to my
colleagues. I thank Chairman Shelby for the very productive, positive,
and cooperative way in which he worked on this legislation and I join
with him in commending Chairman Inhofe and Ranking Member Jeffords for
the very fine work that was done in the Environment and Public Works
Committee and Chairman Grassley and Ranking Member Baucus for their
efforts in the Finance Committee that, in effect, developed a full
package that will make this legislation work.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Oklahoma.
Mr. INHOFE. I appreciate the comments the Senator made. I know it is
a very difficult area to deal in, but I think it is also interesting.
When we look at the chairman, the ranking member, and then the chairman
of the subcommittee and the ranking member of the subcommittee, there
is Alabama, Maryland, Colorado, Rhode Island. There is a huge
diversity. Most people think that geographically only certain parts of
the country have an interest in transit. It is not true at all because
there is equal enthusiasm. I am quite sure, knowing all four
personalities and the areas they represent, they spent a long time
putting this together, coming up with the successes they did achieve.
I would like to go back and review a couple of subjects we have
talked about, but, first, I understand that perhaps Senator Carper was
wanting to seek recognition.
Mr. CARPER. Mr. Chairman, when it is appropriate, I will welcome the
opportunity to speak for maybe 5 to 10 minutes on the bill.
Mr. INHOFE. The Senator may have longer than that if he wishes, and
then I would want to reclaim the floor at the conclusion.
The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Talent). The Senator from Oklahoma yields
the floor. The Senator from Delaware.
Mr. CARPER. Mr. President, I join my colleague, Senator Sarbanes, in
voicing my thanks for the work that has been done on the legislation
before us today, and certainly to Senator Inhofe and his staff and
Senator Jeffords and his staff.
As a member of the Senate Banking Committee, it has really been a
pleasure for me these last 12 months to work with our new chairman--
well, not so new chairman--Senator Shelby and our ranking member,
former chairman, Senator Sarbanes, as we have attempted to craft any
number of pieces of legislation. Last year, the Fair Credit Reporting
Act, which I described yesterday, with Senator Shelby, was just a model
in the way we should be creating legislation in a badly divided
Congress these days.
I don't know if the bill before us is going to be held out as a model
for crafting legislation, but my hope is the product is going to be a
good one for us and for our country.
I would like to speak for a few minutes about the transit provisions
of this bill and then to talk a bit about our support as a nation for
rail transportation and whether or not we have provided the right
support and sense of priority for rail, be it freight rail or passenger
rail.
Let's go back to the 1970s when something called the Urban Mass
Transit Administration was created. We talk about legislation. We
didn't have ISTEA; we didn't have TEA-21; we had a highway bill. Every
several years the Congress would pass a highway bill. Even after the
Urban Mass Transit Administration was created, we would pass in the
Congress from time to time a highway bill.
In due course, the Urban Mass Transit Administration became the
Federal Transit Administration. Somewhere I believe in the 1980s, the
Federal Transit Administration funding was joined with the highway bill
to become a transportation bill and we began taking money. Today I
think it is a little less than 3 cents for every gallon of gasoline
that is sold that will be allocated to the Federal Transit
Administration to support mass transit services, including buses,
including rail and a variety of other transit services.
With respect to the transit provisions of this bill, I think they
represent our growing awareness that while roads and bridges and
highways are important and we still love our cars in this country--
cars, trucks, and vans--more and more people are using transit. It is a
good thing they are. With the kind of congestion we have on our
highways, with the kind of dependence on foreign oil and the kind of
problems with air pollution, it certainly makes sense to have people
get out of the cars, trucks, and vans to use transit to go to work or
go shop or go to a ball game or any variety of other purposes.
I would like us to think of our transportation system in this country
holistically for just a moment. It includes our highways, our roads,
our bridges. It also includes transit. Last year we spent a fair amount
of time reauthorizing the Federal Aviation Administration. In doing so,
a variety of related programs, including the airport improvement
program, were reauthorized. You may recall we fund aviation
improvements, and particularly airport improvements, from a variety of
user fees and some general fund moneys.
Last year we focused on aviation and how to improve our aviation
component of our transportation system. This week we are focusing on
highways and roads. Today we are focusing a bit on transit.
Mr. KENNEDY. Will the Senator yield for a consent request? I ask
unanimous consent to be able to proceed after the Senator from Delaware
finishes.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection?
Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. CARPER. At a day and age in which some 16 percent of our freight
in this country is shipped by rail, all told over 40 percent of our
total ton miles of intercity freight go by rail, we have not yet seen
fit to say the Federal Government should have some interest, more than
just a passing interest, in helping to support, to nurture the rail
component of our transportation system.
Later, probably not this week but I suspect next week, we will have
the opportunity to consider that question: What kind of attention, what
kind of support should we in the Congress and in this country be
providing for freight rail service? What kind of support should we be
providing in this country for passenger rail service?
Amtrak has just concluded a year where they had the highest ridership
in the history of the company. More than 24 million people rode
intercity passenger trains, and they had the highest revenue, I
believe, for any year in their history as well.
We spend a whole lot of time from year to year in this body talking
about passenger rail service and Amtrak. We really don't focus much on
freight rail. I would have us keep in mind, in a day and age where we
are using some 55 percent of the oil we use to run our cars, trucks,
and vans, 55 percent of it comes from foreign sources.
You can take 1 ton of freight, put it on a train here in Washington,
DC, and take it up to Boston, MA, and you use 1 gallon of diesel fuel.
Let me say that again. You take 1 ton of freight, put it on a freight
train here in Washington, DC, take it up the Northeast corridor to
Boston, MA, and that train will use 1 gallon of diesel fuel to move a
ton of freight by rail.
As Governor of Delaware, I was involved a whole lot in trying to
improve our highways, our roads, our bridges. There has been a lot of
State money and, frankly, a good deal of Federal money. We are always
grateful for that partnership. We invest a considerable amount of money
in transit services. We invest State money in airports along with
Federal money.
We also invested State money in rail transportation projects. We did
not have as a partner in those rail transportation projects the Federal
Government. However, if it were a highway project, for every 20 cents
we put up, the Federal Government would put up 80 cents to match. If we
had the opportunity to choose between projects where we were getting an
80-20 match, an 80-cent match for our 20 cents on a highway project,
and we had the option of putting our money and no Federal money in a
rail project, the funding formula just automatically skewed our
decisionmaking.
We may have had a rail project that made a whole lot more sense for
our State, got a whole lot better bang for
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the buck than the highway project, but we were inclined and encouraged
to use the money for the highway project because of a far better
return, 80 to 20 versus nothing for our 100 cents.
What I think some of us will be really asked to think about next week
is whether it makes sense to say the Federal Government should be at
least a modest partner in encouraging the utilization of freight rail--
greater utilization of freight rail. Today, the role is almost zero.
I believe we can do better than that. There are a whole lot of
different approaches, different ideas and thoughts about creating an
entity that would issue bonds. The interest on those bonds would be
paid for by the Federal Government through tax credits. The entity
issuing those bonds would be essentially paid. There has been
discussion of adding an extra penny or so to the Federal gas tax and
using those funds to support rail in some context.
I know when I served on the impact board--and former Governor Tommy
Thompson preceded me--he and I both suggested an extra half cent or so
to the gas tax to provide additional money for capital investments for
infrastructure. We thought that made sense.
We may be asking our colleagues next week to look at an approach that
suggests maybe a source of funding through a gasoline tax. I don't
think creating an entity to issue new debt is the answer, at least not
now--but to look for some source of funding that would provide some
money for the next 6 years to States that have identified good rail
projects, freight rail, or even passenger rail, which makes sense for
those States; if they are willing to put up their money in order to
match moneys from a Federal grant through the U.S. Department of
Transportation, I think that is an idea that may not have had a lot of
merit several years ago.
But, when you travel the highways around here or Delaware or Vermont
or Maryland, I suspect even some places in Oklahoma, Missouri,
Massachusetts, we see congestion on our roads the likes of which we
have not seen in our lifetimes. When you travel to airports, whether it
is in Philadelphia, or BWI, or other places around the country, the
kind of congestion we see is congestion I have never seen in my
lifetime, and the kinds of delays we are facing I have never seen in my
lifetime.
When I got out of the Navy in 1973 and got off active duty and moved
from California to Delaware, about 30 percent of the oil used in
Delaware back then in this country that year was oil we got from
overseas.
When we can move a ton of freight from Washington, DC to Boston on a
freight train and use one gallon of diesel, that certainly says to me
there are some lessons for fuel economy in this day and age that we
ought to pay attention to.
Senator Jeffords has provided great leadership with respect to clean
air issues. We are wrestling and wrangling before the committee on what
is the right approach. We have seen improvements in certain aspects of
air quality. In the Northeast, we still have huge problems with respect
to smog and nitrogen oxide; great problems with respect to mercury. I
believe others here will agree to disagree that global warming is a
growing concern. But in that kind of environment, the notion that we as
a nation should be interested in fostering and encouraging a greater
dependence on rail--freight and passenger--to move people and to move
goods is I think the right notion.
I want to close by going back to where I started.
Again, we worked a whole lot last year on aviation. This week we are
working on highways, roads, and bridges, and that certainly is
appropriate. During today's debate, hopefully we will introduce transit
into the fray. That is another important component of our
transportation system that should get special attention. I don't know
how long I am going to be in the Senate. I hope I will be here for a
while. But I am going to keep reminding my colleagues that rail
deserves a place at the table. If we provide that place, without even
providing a huge amount of money, I think we are going to find our
country and our respective States are well served by that attention.
I thank the Senator very much for yielding the time.
The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Bunning). Under the previous order, the
Senator from Massachusetts is recognized.
Mr. INHOFE. Mr. President, will the Senator yield?
Mr. KENNEDY. I am happy to yield without losing the right to the
floor.
Mr. INHOFE. I yielded to the Senator from Delaware at his request,
and I asked that I get the floor when he finished. I want to explain to
the Senator why I wanted to get the floor back. We are on the transit
section. The chairman of the subcommittee, Senator Allard, has been
waiting to be heard on that. I only inquire about how long the Senator
will be until we regain the floor.
Mr. KENNEDY. It is a relevant point. If the Senator is here and wants
to make a brief statement on it, I would be glad to yield now if I have
the right to follow.
Mr. INHOFE. How much time does the Senator think he will require?
Mr. KENNEDY. Probably 20 minutes.
Mr. INHOFE. I thank the Senator.
Mr. KENNEDY. If he is here on the relevant part, I would be glad to
wait. That is an enormously important sector of it. I intend to speak
very briefly about it, but I don't intend to be longer than that.
Mr. INHOFE. I thank the Senator.
Mr. KENNEDY. Mr. President, I thank Chairman Shelby and Senator
Sarbanes for their bold transit proposal that is before us. Throughout
this process, they have been resolute in their defense of mass transit
and the result is the proposal that benefits cities across this
country. Simply put, mass transit, subways, commuter rail, and rapid
transit is the lifeblood of metropolitan economies. We cannot expect
our cities to remain the enormous economic engines they are today
unless we make the critical investments.
The U.S. Conference of Mayors recently released a study that shows
U.S. metropolitan areas have accounted for 87 percent of the Nation's
economic growth and have generated over 85 percent of the economic
output, labor, income, and jobs over the past 10 years. Eighty-seven
percent of the Nation's economic growth was from the cities.
When we consider statistics like these, I think my colleagues will
agree this Senate should invest in transportation resources in a manner
that benefits America's metropolitan areas.
I am particularly happy to report that the package crafted by
Senators Shelby and Sarbanes does just that, and all of us in the
Senate are truly in their debt.
On another matter, I strongly support the Public Safety Employer and
Employee Cooperation Act amendment. I commend my colleague of the HELP
Committee, Chairman Judd Gregg, for sponsoring the Public Safety
Employer and Employee Cooperation Act, and for offering it as an
amendment on this bill. I am a cosponsor on this bill which was
reported out of the committee last fall. We are joined by 25 other
sponsors of the Senate, including a number of our Republican
colleagues.
Our public safety workers play a tremendous role in protecting our
communities and families. I remember the extraordinary courage we saw
among those rescue workers, among those firefighters, and among those
police officers on September 11 in 2001. They entered those burning
buildings, risking their lives, and after the buildings fell, they
raised an American flag amid the ruins. That image captures perfectly
what these brave men and women do. They not only protect homes and our
lives, they represent the very best that is in us. The courage and the
sacrifice of ordinary working Americans is our Nation's greatest
strength.
We were prepared to call on these men and women on 9/11, and they
answered the call. It is time to honor them--to honor their service and
their sacrifice--by giving them collective bargaining rights.
For more than 60 years, collective bargaining has enabled labor and
management to work together to improve job conditions and to increase
productivity. These productive relationships also help workers to
obtain better wages, better health benefits and pension benefits.
Collective bargaining in the public sector, once controversial, is
now widely accepted. It has been common at
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least since 1962 when President Kennedy signed an executive order
granting these basic rights to Federal employees. Indeed, over 30
States already recognize bargaining rights for these employees.
Unfortunately, public safety employees in many States still lack the
right to bargain collectively. They lack a voice on the job. By giving
them this voice, we will not only help these brave workers, but we will
also increase the safety and effectiveness of our public services.
This amendment guarantees the fundamental rights necessary for
collective bargaining--the right to form and join a union, the right to
bargain over working conditions, and the right to legally enforceable
contracts.
The benefits of this legislation are clear and compelling. First,
this amendment will improve public safety. Our firefighters and police
officers are better equipped than anyone else to know how to improve
our public safety.
As the former president of the Fraternal Order of Police testified at
a congressional hearing in 2000: ``Public safety service is delivered
by rank-and-file officers. Therefore, it is their observations and
experience which will best refine the delivery of service. To exclude
them from having any input relating to their job, particularly when
their lives are on the line, is not only unfair to the officers, but
the public they are sworn to protect.''
Unfortunately, many public safety officers do not have this right
today. They risk their jobs when they speak out about working
conditions that are a danger to themselves and the public. Take, for
example, the firefighters in Springdale, Arkansas, who testified to the
city council about the need for better equipment in staffing. He was
fired for insubordination. Or the firefighters in Odessa, Texas, who
set up a Web site and newsletter publicizing the fire department's
failure to provide them protective masks in the case of a chemical
attack and were interrogated and disciplined for their actions.
There are too many examples like this of public safety workers who
see inadequate staffing and equipment, placing themselves and the
public at risk, who do not have the right to bargain to change the
problems in a contract. Our public safety employees know best what is
needed to keep us safe. Under this amendment they would have the right
to negotiate these workplace conditions with cities and towns they
serve. This will lead to greater cooperation, improved labor-management
relations, and better service.
One example of this success can be found right here with the Capitol
Police. When the Capitol Police were granted collective bargaining
rights, their contract provided for a joint labor-management relations
committee to review police practices, equipment, and officers' safety.
As a result of these discussions, the United States Capitol Police were
given greater access to body armor and upgraded weapons. Over a year
before September 11, 2001, our officers were already aware of the need
for increased security in the Capitol buildings, something we are
reminded of every day, particularly this week.
Collective bargaining is also more cost effective. A study by the
International Association of Firefighters shows some States and
municipalities that have given firefighters the right to discuss
workplace issues have lower fire department budgets than States without
such laws.
Not only would collective bargaining benefit the public, it would
help these employees who do so much to protect us. Every year more than
15,000 police officers and 75,000 firefighters are injured on the job.
On average, 160 police officers and nearly 100 firefighters die in the
line of duty each year. This amendment gives these workers the
opportunity to discuss the on-the-job safety concerns with the
management. It would also give workers a chance to improve their wages
and benefits.
Public safety employees without collective bargaining rights are
often paid less than their representative counterparts. In some of
these States, it is not unheard of for firefighters to earn less than
$18,400, the Federal poverty level for a family of four. Many of these
workers have to pay for their own health insurance. This costs
thousands of dollars a year they cannot afford.
Some of my colleagues have previously expressed concern that this
legislation affects States rights and public safety. This amendment
would preserve States rights. Each State would maintain and administer
its own collective bargaining law. States would have the ability to
decide how they want to provide the collective bargaining rights.
Indeed, the majority of the States already meet the amendment's
criteria.
This amendment also recognizes the importance of community security.
I strongly believe our police officers and firefighters will always act
to protect the safety of the public first. However, in order to ensure
there is no possible risk to this, this amendment expressly prohibits
the right to strike. My colleagues should, therefore, have no concern
that this would in any way compromise the safety of our cities and our
neighborhoods.
The Federal Government recognized the right to collective bargaining
more than 60 years ago. Public safety workers are one of the largest
sectors of the workplace who do not yet have that basic right. Our
Nation's police officers, firefighters, and emergency rescue workers
have earned that right. I urge my colleagues to give them that right by
supporting this amendment.
Medicare
Mr. President, on another matter, the administration is robbing the
Medicare Program to finance the Bush reelection campaign. That is
wrong. Today, we call on the Comptroller General of the United States
to investigate the legality, propriety, and accuracy of this
unprecedented and improper use of taxpayers' money. The Washington Post
describes the ads the Bush administration is running as designed to
build public support for the new Medicare prescription drug law,
seeking to counteract Democratic criticism that changes to the program
will harm older Americans.
The $12.6 million of Medicare money the Bush administration will
spend on these ads is on top of the $10 million they plan to spend on a
deceptive mailing to all 40 million Medicare beneficiaries touting the
new law. There is no purpose for these advertisements except to
convince senior citizens the Medicare bill is good for them. They are
nothing more than propaganda for the Bush reelection campaign, using
$23 million of senior citizens' own Medicare money.
The merits of the new law are a legitimate subject for political
debate. Democrats intend to keep talking about this issue all the way
to November. We will be fighting to rewrite this deeply flawed and
destructive bill. President Bush will be claiming credit for it,
defending it, as he did in the State of the Union Message. He is
entitled to do that. But he is not entitled to use senior citizens' own
money, the taxpayers' own money, to sell this bill like a car or a cake
of soap so the President can improve his fading chances of reelection.
For those who have not seen the advertisement, it features actors
pretending to be Medicare beneficiaries. Every question the actors ask
is answered with a variant of a simple-minded slogan which is shown
throughout the advertisement: Same Medicare, more benefits.
The advertising campaign is managed--listen to this--the advertising
campaign is managed by the same firm that works for the Bush reelection
campaign and for the drug industry. If there is anyone who thinks the
sole purpose of these ads is not to promote President Bush's
reelection, they must come from another planet, maybe Mars.
There is a lot the ads and mailings do not tell the senior citizens
because the Bush administration understandably does not want them to
know the facts of the new law. Its bland assurance that the elderly can
keep their Medicare does not tell them the administration's own
estimates project over $50 billion in excess payments to Medicare HMOs
in order to prevent Medicare from competing on a level playing field
and ultimately privatizing the whole program.
It does not tell them up to 6 million senior citizens will be forced
into a vast demonstration program that will require them to pay higher
premiums if they want to keep their Medicare.
It does not tell them if the insurance company offering the drug
benefit in their area charges a premium that is too high or does not
cover the drugs
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doctors prescribe, the only way they can get the drug benefit is to
leave regular Medicare and join an HMO or other private insurance plan.
It does not tell them that.
There is a lot more this ad leaves out. It does not tell senior
citizens the bill has provided over $100 billion in windfall profits
for the pharmaceutical companies and that the Government is prohibited
from negotiating better prices for senior citizens.
It does not tell them almost 3 million senior citizens will lose good
retirement coverage and be forced into the inadequate Government
program.
It does not tell them if they are poor and on Medicaid they will have
to pay more for drugs they need and have less access to the drugs their
doctor prescribes.
It does not tell them if they wait a year or two and see how the
program turns out before they join it, they have to pay higher
premiums. In fact, it does not even tell them they will have to pay a
premium.
It does not tell them they are prohibited from using their own money
to buy supplemental coverage to fill in the gaps in the inadequate
Medicare benefit.
It does not tell senior citizens the Bush administration
misrepresented to their own party and to the American people the costs
of the bill.
The more senior citizens learn about this program, the angrier they
become. I predict when they learn this misleading ad, designed to help
the President's reelection campaign, is paid for by their own Medicare
money, they are going to be even angrier.
Unemployment
Finally, I bring to the attention of the Senate an excellent report,
the Economic Policy Institute report that talks about the wage and
salary income for workers in this country. It is an ominous report and
is something all Members who have been traveling around our States
certainly have found out in talking to any of the workers.
I ask unanimous consent to have the document printed.
There being no objection, the material was ordered to be printed in
the Record, as follows:
[From the Economic Policy Institute Economic Snapshots, Feb. 4, 2004]
Wage and Salary Income Yet To Share in Growth
The Department of Commerce's advance release on gross
domestic product (GDP) estimated that the U.S. economy grew
4% in the last quarter of 2003. This is a solid growth
number, although well off the extraordinarily high (and
unsustainable) 8.2% rate of the third quarter. However, the
rise in GDP has not yet translated into higher wages and
salaries for many U.S. workers.
Despite solid GDP growth in the second half of 2003, many
Americans continue to rate addressing the economy and jobs as
the nation's highest priority. One possible reason for this
continued anxiety in the face of rising GDP is shown in the
figure below: the current recovery remains the single worst
on record in terms of generating the real (inflation-
adjusted) growth in wages and salary income that is the
economic lifeblood of most American families.
In the 25 months since the recession ended, total wage and
salary income is up only 0.4%. It should be emphasized that
this is growth after the recession ended and does not include
income losses incurred while the economy was contracting.
This is the slowest wage and salary growth of any recession
since 1959, the first year in which monthly data on total
wage and salary income is consistently available.
Wage and salary income after the previous five recessions
was an average of 9.4% higher by this point in the recovery.
Prior to this recovery, the worst post-recession spell for
wage and salary growth was the last jobless recovery of the
early 1990s, which still saw wage and salary income rising
nine times faster (3.6%) than in the past 25 months. The
current slow growth of wages and salaries means that many
U.S. workers are not reaping the benefits of the recent GDP
growth.
Mr. KENNEDY. This is the first time in over 50 years that long-term
joblessness has reached such high rates. Mr. President, 22.3 percent of
the unemployed have been out of work for more than 6 months. Without
workers being offered any Federal job benefits, every week 90,000
workers are running out of unemployment benefits.
In the Senate, we have tried more than a dozen times to extend the
unemployment benefits to ensure that those workers can continue to
support their families while they look for a job. More than a dozen
times our Republican colleagues have said no.
The White House has been silent on the issue claiming ``mission
accomplished'' on the economy while millions of Americans remain out of
work. The Bush economy continues to create only one job for every three
people out of work.
But yesterday we finally had some good news. Our colleagues in the
House recognized the unemployment crisis and voted, 227 to 179--
including 39 Republicans--to reinstate the Federal unemployment
benefits for 6 months. Workers have paid into the unemployment
insurance trust fund. The trust fund is now $17 billion. The extension
would cost $6 billion to $7 billion. This is a matter of fairness.
In December, only 1,000 new jobs were created. Tomorrow we will find
out how many jobs were created in January. I hope it is good news. But
I can assure you right now, it will not be enough to restore the 2.4
million jobs lost under President Bush or enough to ensure that every
worker who wants a job can have one.
That is why we need to reinstate the unemployment benefits. Americans
are suffering. They are struggling to pay their mortgages and keep food
on their families' tables.
If the House of Representatives can accept this, in a bipartisan way,
with 39 Republicans, you would think we would be able to accept it and
not have it continually blocked.
I will just show a chart. This chart shows the average number of out-
of-work Americans running out of unemployment benefits without finding
a job from 1973 to 2003. For 30 years it has averaged 151,000. In
January of this year, 375,000. Our Republican friends refuse--
absolutely refuse--to permit the continued help and assistance which
those workers have paid into the unemployment compensation fund, which
today is $17 billion in surplus.
The House of Representatives has accepted it. Thirty-nine Republicans
went along with it. I wait, as many of our colleagues, for the
amendment that will be offered by our friend and colleague, a leader on
this issue, Senator Cantwell, who will offer that amendment; and it
will give an opportunity for the Senate to address this issue.
But I also point out--I see my leader in the Chamber--the Economic
Policy Institute, on February 4, issued a presentation of which I cite
a chart entitled ``Real growth in wages and salaries, 25 months since
recession's end.'' They go back to 1961, 1970, 1975, 1982, 1991, and
2001. In the 25 months since the recession ended, wages and salaries
have only grown 0.4 percent. It is the lowest in the history of any
economic recovery that has ever been recorded.
Mr. REID. Will the Senator yield for a question?
Mr. KENNEDY. I am glad to yield.
Mr. REID. I had to step off the floor, but I did come back and heard
part of the Senator's statement regarding Medicare.
It is true, is it not, that the taxpayers of this country are paying
for political advertisements to talk about how good the bad Medicare
package is? Is that true?
Mr. KENNEDY. Well, the Senator is absolutely correct. A total of $23
million will be money that is paid in for our seniors. It is taking
that money that was to be used for the protection of our seniors, and
it says $12 million--$6 million will be spent on the television. That
is on top of the $10 million that will be done for a mailing to all 40
million Medicare beneficiaries. The ad house that is handling this is
in charge of the Bush administration's reelection campaign.
Mr. REID. May I ask another question.
Mr. KENNEDY. Please.
Mr. REID. So the Senator is saying, not only are taxpayers' dollars
being spent to promote a bad Medicare program, but that the advertising
is being done by the President's own reelection media team?
Mr. KENNEDY. The Senator is absolutely right. I know the Senator is
in disbelief of the gall the administration would have to take $23
million out of Medicare to use it with their own ad agency for mailings
to 40 million seniors and to use on the airwaves in support of a bill
and in misrepresenting the bill itself.
I took a moment of time to show how the ad itself is so
misrepresentative of what is in the bill. But the Senator is correct.
Mr. REID. Will the Senator yield for one other question?
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Mr. KENNEDY. Yes.
Mr. REID. Is it also true that in the mailings and the television
they do not bother to tell what is going to happen after the election
that takes place in November with Medicare? Because I believe--and
think the Senator from Massachusetts believes--most of the bad stuff
happening in this bill comes after the election. Is that true?
Mr. KENNEDY. The Senator is quite correct, although he is not
entirely correct. The bonuses that are going to the HMOs--some $12
billion now will go to the HMOs to treat any person who would qualify
for Medicare. They will get a 25-percent bonus over Medicare with
direct subsidies, which is not a level playing field, of which we hear
so much from the other side, but direct subsidies. Those subsidies
start in March of this year.
So you are right, the benefits are way down the road. The benefits
that will affect the poorest of the poor are going to be after 2006.
But the payoffs, the bonuses to the HMOs of $12 billion will start in
March. In fact, the Administration's own internal estimates, that were
kept secret from the American people, and have just been released,
indicate that the payoffs will be more than $50 billion.
So I thank the Senator.
Mr. President, I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Oklahoma.
Mr. INHOFE. Mr. President, I appreciate very much the Senator from
Massachusetts being sensitive to the chairman of the Subcommittee on
Transit who wants to come down to the floor. He will be here shortly.
Mr. President, what I thought I would do is continue to go through--
in these moments where there is a little bit of a lull--this section-
by-section analysis, as arduous as it may be to some people. But I
think we need to have it in the Record so everybody has an
understanding of not the hours, not the days, but the more than an
entire year we have worked very carefully with the Senator from Nevada
and the Senator from Vermont in coming up with the agreements and the
compromises we have.
As we had said before, the goals of the reauthorization of TEA-21--
which for the next 6 years we refer to as SAFETEA--have been to
increase the rate of return to donor States. This is something of which
certainly the Presiding Officer is fully aware. It is something we are
all sensitive to.
My State of Oklahoma, for example, was down in the 70 percent range
prior to ISTEA. Then with ISTEA and TEA-21 we crept up to 90.5 percent.
This bill will take us up so every State will be guaranteed to get back
95 percent. I think that goes a long way. Some people who are a bit
sensitive to the plight of donor States believe that getting to 95
percent pretty much resolves the problem.
That was one of the points we dealt with, and that took a long time
on which to get an agreement. At the same time we did that, we wanted
to make sure we were not negatively impacting donee States. We hear
people come down and complain about the formula approach, their State
perhaps is not getting what they should be getting. Then we hear later
on a donee State will come down. We have to recognize, if we don't have
floors and ceilings and we take care of all the needs of the donor
States, it is going to affect the others.
For the fast growing States, that is a consideration in the formula.
We have never done this before. For those States that are growing very
fast, we had to put in a ceiling, so we bumped the ceiling; otherwise,
there wouldn't be anything for the other States.
We have to keep in mind that the three largest, fast growing States
are consuming in this bill 26 percent of the growth. Consequently, as
people have come to the floor, if you try to look at that and say, yes,
we are sensitive to this, we must do something about the fast growing
State, and yet at the same time you have one of the States such as New
York or Pennsylvania that would be negatively impacted by the same
thing. So this was a compromise all the way through.
Streamlining is something we tried to address. I was actively
involved in the other body during the development of ISTEA in 1991 and
then again in TEA-21 in 1998 on this side. We were not successful in
doing it. In other words, there are things we can do to streamline some
of the regulations we have to deal with. Many of those are
environmental regulations where we can get that taken care of first,
and we have provisions in this legislation that will do that and end up
getting a lot more for our dollars.
The reason we are calling this SAFETEA is that right now we have some
43,000 deaths on the highway. We are looking now at a trend line that
is going the wrong way. So it is time to address that. We even have the
name SAFETEA. That is very appropriate.
Freight movement: We haven't really spent a long time on addressing
these things. Nonetheless, this bill does do it. The Federal Highway
System is a key component to continued economic growth in this country.
We have talked about the positive effect of this bill when we get it
passed and get by these parliamentary obstacles. Keep in mind, it
bothers me a little bit that we have obstacles from perhaps 5 or 6
people when we had 75 votes to move on and invoke cloture.
Remember when we saw in one of the publications on the Hill the ``Men
Working'' sign, and then, superimposed in the middle of that, ``Men Not
Working.'' That is a sign that we still have a problem. We have an
economy that is on the rebound now, but jobs are lingering behind.
There is no program out there that is more of a significant jobs
program than this bill. The IPAM provisions in the legislation will
allow those projects which are immediately ready to be completed. I
know the Senator from Oregon has been very concerned about how quickly
we can get in there and get some of these jobs going. That is why that
provision is in there, so you can move immediately to those projects
that have been approved without going through a long and arduous
process.
That is the major concern the American people have with our not
getting something done. There is a lag behind highway construction and
getting the job done, we all know that.
When you talk about deficient bridges, of all 50 States, my State is
No. 1. People are very sensitive to that. But they also recognize that
even when we pass this, it is going to take a while to get this done.
What they are aware of is, you pass this and immediately it is going
to have a very positive impact on the job market. In calculating job
opportunities, it is about quadruple the number of jobs that would be
corrected with this legislation. The reason is this: If a guy has a
job, he is out building a road; he is also buying goods and services.
The manufacturing jobs are improving. We are talking about a huge
issue. There is nothing we can do that would more quickly take care of
this problem.
The old bills had what was called a minimum guarantee. TEA-21 had a
minimum guarantee. We all remember. We remember that formula, the 1104
formula. As you looked at the formula, each State had a percentage of
the total amount, and that was what was called the formula. But
politically speaking, once you get up to the 60 votes you need, it does
not make any difference what they did. Consequently, it didn't have any
of the provisions in there that would try to do the most good, build
the best roads, and take care of the problems in the States where they
are the most serious. We have done away with that.
It would have been easier to just go ahead with that because
everybody understands that and you get 60 people happy and you have a
bill. But we didn't want to do that because there are a lot of the
categories of people in the States that need to be taken care of.
One of the problems we have with the very fast growing States and the
large States is that while we are going to end up in 2009, at the end
of this 6-year period, with 95 percent in terms of the donor States,
the fast growing States, the large States will not reach that until
2009. I regret that is necessary, but frankly there is no other way to
make this happen. So what we did was to put the formula into effect and
let the formula work.
I have been going through and outlining the various sections of the
bill. We have done it from the very beginning, section 1101, all the
way up now to 1620.
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Section 1620 is the Highway Stormwater Discharge Mitigation Program.
As introduced, S. 1072 did address the issue of contaminated storm
water runoff from highways. Specifically, it expanded the eligibility
of storm water projects to be able to use a State's funds under the NHS
program and extended the eligibility of storm water projects to
mitigate runoff on existing Federal aid highways, ongoing
reconstruction, rehabilitation, resurfacing, or restoration projects.
An amendment was adopted to create a 2 percent set-aside from the
Surface Transportation Program amounting to nearly $1 billion.
This is something about which I know a lot of Members have a concern.
My position has always been that if a State wants to use a 2 percent, a
State can do it. If you have a mandatory set-aside, it puts us all in
the position of where not only do we not have a choice, no other State
has either. When you add it up, that is a lot of money. You are talking
about a billion dollars. That is something that is going to be dealt
with, it is my understanding, by interested Members. We will have to
debate that.
My concern is getting to the position where we can debate legitimate
differences of opinion. And that was one on which our committee was
divided right down the middle. The concern I have right now is we are
not debating things where there is a legitimate difference of opinion
or even things that are germane. I hope that we can get to a point
where we can table all nongermane amendments. I don't think we are
going to get there, but I would like to get there. If we did, that
would resolve that problem.
There are legitimate issues to deal with, with amendments. Section
1701 is transportation systems management and operations. Despite the
historic increase in highway investment following the enactment of TEA-
21, operational performance has declined. For example, a trip that
would have taken 25 minutes during the congested period in 1987 now
takes an additional 5 minutes. What we are talking about here is we
have more congestion. I have seen this congestion mount. I was in the
other body for 8 years. I was on the Transportation Committee during
that time. The committee structure in the other body is not the same as
here. In the other body, all they deal with is transportation.
Over here, we have Environment and Public Works, so we have other
issues with which to deal. But when I got to the Senate, a vice
chairmanship of the subcommittee became available. That was clean air.
We went through the clean air problems we had during the Browner
administration in the EPA. A lot of the problems that came up in my
State--in fact, with original proposals that came through, out of 77
counties in Oklahoma we would have had some 50 counties that would have
been out of attainment. We worked on that and tried to get something
done that would be successful.
But when we deal with this section 1701, we are saying that if you
are out there taking a trip, going from one point to another, and
because of congestion you have to stop and let your engine idle and let
the truck idle, you are using up a lot of fuel unnecessarily, and we
will quantify that in a moment in our discussion. No. 2, it is a time
waste. So you have an air quality problem as well as a pollution
problem. This bill makes several changes to improve the transportation
system's management and operations, including the creation of a
foundation for transportation systems management and operations.
Through the provisions of this bill, transportation systems management
and operations programs and projects are integrated into the capital
planning and construction processes. States are given tools for
reducing traffic delays caused by vehicle accidents and breakdowns on
highways during peak traveling times. The bill encourages continued
development and deployment of safety measures, notification systems to
disseminate safety information on Federal aid highways to motorists and
public safety agencies as needed. Examples may include traffic
congestion, freight movement and conditions, amber alert, weather event
emergency notifications, and border and homeland security
notifications.
I have been informed there may be another Member who wants to speak
for a specific period of time on an unrelated issue.
Mr. WYDEN. Will the Senator yield?
Mr. INHOFE. I will yield----
Mr. WYDEN. For a question?
Mr. INHOFE. Yes.
Mr. WYDEN. First, I express my appreciation to the chairman on the
committee on which I sit. He has worked very closely with Senator Smith
and me, and we appreciate that. If it doesn't cause any great travail,
I was interested in speaking for maybe 10 minutes on a health care
issue. I see our friend from Colorado. Maybe something could be worked
out among the three of us whenever the chairman has completed his
remarks. I think at 1:30 the rule kicks in where you can address other
issues. If something could be worked out, it would be helpful.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The time is 1:49 when that rule kicks in.
Mr. INHOFE. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the Senator
from Oregon be recognized for up to 12 minutes on a subject of his
choice and that Senator Allard be recognized immediately after that.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection?
Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. ALLARD. Mr. President, I wanted to understand where we were. The
Senator is going to speak for 12 minutes and then I will be recognized
for 10 minutes; is that correct?
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Yes.
The MEND Act
Mr. WYDEN. Mr. President, skyrocketing prescription drug bills are
hitting senior citizens in this country like a wrecking ball. It seems
to me it is critically important that the Congress move on a bipartisan
basis to put in place aggressive cost containment measures that can
best be achieved by making sure that the Medicare Program has real
bargaining power, that the barriers are eliminated to bringing in drugs
that are safe from other countries, and that seniors are in a position
to compare prices, with real price disclosure in markets across the
country.
Today I have introduced, along with the senior Senator from Maine,
Ms. Snowe, legislation that would do just that. I believe it is
critically important for Congress to move on this legislation in the
days ahead. If for no other reason, the legislation I introduced with
Senator Snowe should be priority business because of the developments
in the last week.
In the last week, it has become clear that the prescription drug
measure passed last year--a measure I voted for--will cost over $130
billion more than was originally anticipated. So I think there was a
strong case for the cost containment measures that Senator Snowe and I
are advocating today even before the developments of the last week.
But on the basis of what we have learned in the last week, I don't
see how you can logically argue that Medicare should not have the same
authority to bargain for seniors who need those prescription drugs that
Members of Congress benefit from because of the Federal Employees
Health Benefits Program that goes to bat for us.
So I am hopeful that this bipartisan legislation--which I believe is
the first significant bipartisan health reform bill this Congress--will
be considered quickly. Certainly the developments of the last week have
given, in my view, new impetus for this legislation.
Our legislation is called the MEND Act, the Medicare Enhancements for
Needed Drugs Act. It attacks the high prices seniors are facing in four
major ways:
First, it leverages the market share of tens of millions of seniors
into real bargaining power.
Second, it breaks down the barriers to reimportation of lower cost
drugs.
Third, it makes Congress a watchdog against unfair price spikes.
Fourth, it creates real incentives for seniors to get the best prices
for their medicine.
I think colleagues understand, having been home over the last few
weeks, that there is tremendous concern with respect to this
legislation. There is confusion about what it stands for. I think we
have all heard that. But at the top of the list of concerns seniors are
bringing to us is the question of what is being done to rein in these
costs. It seems to me that with an opportunity to address this in a
bipartisan way, which is what I have done with Senator Snowe--we have
been at this now for 5 years--the Congress could come together.
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Now, if that is not done, it seems to me that given the developments
of the last week, and the legislation costing $100 billion-plus more
than anybody anticipated, we are going to see the frustration mount not
just with seniors but with taxpayers across the country.
I am going to be talking about this legislation more in the days
ahead. I am very pleased that the Senator from Colorado was kind enough
to give me the opportunity to speak for a few minutes in the Chamber
today. I am very pleased that, with Senator Snowe, we have a
bipartisan, commonsense proposal that can help America's seniors
receive the prescription drugs they need.
Our legislation will give seniors a powerful one-two punch to fight
back against high prescription drug prices. It will help seniors save
money on every prescription and give the new Medicare benefit even more
buying power.
Under our bipartisan bill, the Secretary of Health and Human Services
could fight on behalf of seniors for lower drug prices and individual
Medicare plans would actually have incentives for negotiating prices
comparable to the VA.
Seniors should not have to underwrite tax breaks for companies that
try to keep affordable, reimported drugs out of their hands. Today,
drug companies get a dollar-for-dollar tax writeoff on their
advertising, advertising that is helping, in my view, to drive up the
cost of prescription medicine. In the last year for which we have
figures, direct-to-consumer advertising cost $2.5 billion.
What we say in our bipartisan legislation is if the drug companies
say no to affordable reimported drugs for seniors, then they are going
to have to say no to the tax breaks that are paid for with seniors' tax
dollars.
I hope in this session of Congress we will see an effort on a
bipartisan basis to improve on the legislation that was passed last
year. I voted for that bill last year. I still have the welts on my
back to show for it. But I also came to the floor at that time and said
I think the Congress can do better in terms of cost containment, not by
setting price controls, not by some big Government regime that has the
Government interfering in various kinds of areas where there is no
appropriate role. But I said there is no logical reason why Medicare
shouldn't have the same bargaining power to get a good price for
seniors the Federal employee plan has for Members of Congress. Now
there is a bipartisan proposal before the Senate that will get seniors
a fair shake using marketplace forces.
I hope in the remaining days of this session, legislation can be
acted on favorably. Senator Snowe and I have worked as a bipartisan
team for 5 years now in an effort to try to get this prescription drug
issue right.
At the top of our seniors' concerns today is the need for better cost
containment. We can do it with marketplace forces. The Senate now has
bipartisan legislation that will do just that. I hope my colleagues
will support it.
Again, I express my thanks to Senator Allard and look forward to
working with him on the transportation bill as well.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Colorado.
Mr. ALLARD. Mr. President, I thank my colleague from Oregon for his
comments. I, too, look forward to working with him on these
transportation issues. We worked together on a number of issues
throughout our careers. I always look forward to the cooperation he is
willing to share in a bipartisan way.
While we are passing out some ``atta boys,'' I want to again
congratulate the chairman of the Environment and Public Works Committee
for getting this bill to the floor. It was not easy. I know he worked
all last year, and while most of us were on break, he was working hard
trying to work out compromises so this legislation would be one of the
first with which we would be dealing when we came back in for this
particular session of the Congress.
Historically, transportation issues have not been partisan. Usually,
it is approached in a bipartisan way. It is very complicated. Every
State is affected differently. The bill has a highway transportation
portion and a mass transit portion. Usually, there are some provisions,
such as we saw this year, that come out of the Commerce Committee. The
Finance Committee gets involved because there are some issues on how we
are going to come up with the money that is required.
I also wish to compliment Chairman Shelby. Chairman Inhofe is
chairman of the Environment and Public Works Committee, and then we
have Chairman Shelby who is chairman of the Banking Committee. A major
part of the mass transit provisions comes out of that committee. He has
been working with the ranking member, Senator Sarbanes. I am chairman
of a subcommittee in the Banking Committee that deals with housing and
transportation, so I have oversight over mass transit. I work with the
ranking member, Senator Reed of Rhode Island. They, too, spent a great
deal of time working on this legislation, and I thank them for working
in a bipartisan way to reach a consensus on this bill.
One of the issues we struggled with is how we are going to pay for
what everybody wants in highway transportation and mass transit. It is
something with which Congress has been struggling.
This bill came out of the Finance Committee, and they put in
provisions. My concern is that we don't add to the deficit and we use
those dollars that are available in the highway trust fund to finance
transportation needs, particularly for highways.
The bill is a step in the right direction. It makes important steps
in a number of areas. I come from a State that has experienced rapid
growth. I know a lot of Members of the Senate who come from rural
areas, particularly in the West and the South, have experienced similar
growth rates in their particular States. So we all are challenged with
the transportation problems that come with that rapid growth. One
problem is mass transit.
Historically, most of the dollars in mass transit have gone to those
States that have large metropolitan areas or directly to a large
metropolitan area, such as New York, Los Angeles, or Chicago. But those
of us who come from relatively small metropolitan areas but are showing
a lot of growth have never had access to dollars that are required for
us to begin to move forward with mass transit.
In the State of Colorado, Denver is our metropolitan area. It was
very difficult at one point to access the dollars to start mass transit
systems. There were provisions put in place when we had Chairman
Alfonse D'Amato from New York. I worked with him to try and put
together a formula for mass transit where the smaller States could
begin to participate in some of the mass transit dollars. That
originally got put in place when Alfonse D'Amato, who was from New
York, was chairman of the committee. Like I said at the time when we
were working with Chairman D'Amato, we don't want to take all the money
for small States, but I think when we have more than 90 percent of the
dollars in mass transit going just to 11 cities, that is not a good
balance either. So we needed to work out a formula.
We worked out a formula where the smaller growing metropolitan areas
in this country would have some additional access to mass transit
money.
We continue to work on that provision in this bill. We are beginning
to recognize the growth and the needs in many other communities
throughout the United States and working to give them flexibility to
approach their transportation problems with different perspectives. We
give them as many alternatives as they possibly can select in trying to
meet their transportation needs.
One area is using buses, what we call rapid transit buses. These are
buses that have dedicated lanes on highways. In some areas, it is
cheaper to put down roads and highways than it is to build rail. They
use that and then use buses instead of mass transit. It has the
advantage of additional flexibility because the bus doesn't have to
stop at one particular station. I know my State of Colorado is looking
at this as an alternative.
We have money in the section that came out of Banking to provide
additional flexibility to the States and local communities so they can
look at these various alternatives as to what they can afford. There is
no getting around it; when you start putting in a fixed rail system,
they are very expensive.
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I am happy to report in my State of Colorado, we have a major
construction project combining expanding highways with mass transit.
That particular project has been under budget and is ahead of schedule.
As a result of that, the State is developing a good reputation in that
regard. We have tried to put incentives in this legislation that says
to communities throughout the country if you begin to take on these
projects, we have incentives where you can work on the project, and if
you are responsible with the taxpayers' dollars and you are ahead of
schedule and under budget, this is all good news, so we want to
encourage that type of behavior.
That is so much of what we have been trying to accomplish in the mass
transit section of the bill.
Highways, obviously, are important as far as rural transportation is
concerned but also is bus service. In some isolated areas of this
country, there are elderly people, and many rural communities are
disproportionately impacted by again rural populations. So they need to
have some other alternatives of being able to get to their doctor or
being able to get down and around in their communities to take care of
their vital needs. So we have provided some programs that begin to
provide bus service for the rural communities.
Overall, I think there has been a little bit of shift, if one looks
at this transportation bill, from large States to the smaller States
and giving the smaller States some flexibility as far as the dollars.
That is good because that is kind of what is happening with the
population. There is a lot of population change. People are moving from
the larger communities and going out into the smaller communities, and
sometimes it has to do with the quality of life. They are going out in
the smaller communities because they have smaller classes in the
schools. They like the rural living. They like easier access without
having to deal with traffic problems.
We need to keep this in mind. So there is a provision in there to
help take care of some of these big issues. We figured out that about
40 percent of the counties in this country do not have any transit at
all and they are looking at some ways of trying to meet the needs of
their local citizens.
Overall, this package has some good in it. We just need to work out
how we are going to pay for all of it.
The other thing I would mention is, the private sector plays a key
role in all of this. We sort of leaned on the private sector to help
provide the expertise, and we want to be sure they have an opportunity
to get into public-private partnerships because it can benefit all
parties. Many times if it can be opened to a free market approach, it
holds down the cost of the project. If projects develop into monopolies
where one company, one group of employees, or one community has such
control, then we do not have the competition out there to hold down the
cost of the project.
I am one who ordinarily believes that if costs for a project are to
be held down, competition is the way to do it. Rules and regulations
are passed, as well as having price controls. Basically, it is going to
be competition that best serves the customers, whatever that transit
project would happen to be, and also would be a process where we do not
have an overburdensome bureaucracy which in itself does a lot to add to
the cost of the project because of so much oversight.
So it is kind of a balance between where is the proper level of
regulation so they can assure that things are done right but on the
other hand hold down on the regulations so there are not unnecessary
bureaucratic delays.
This is sort of a broad-brushed approach to our transportation needs.
We began to recognize that there are lots of ways people can travel,
and I think we have done that in this particular bill.
I want to talk a little bit more about my own State of Colorado and
what is happening. If we look at the highway transportation funding
formula, Colorado does well as far as the formula is concerned. This
kind of chart sort of illustrates that. If we look at TEA-21, the 6-
year average is $335 million available for Colorado in the previous 6
years, per year. TEA-21 is the highway transportation bill that was
passed and its funding ended in 2003. Now we are on 2004. This is what
we call SAFETEA. If we look at the funding there, we have $423 million
in 2004 for Colorado. In 2008, it goes up to $505 million, but in the
last year we have a real balloon that goes up to $603. Some people say:
I do not know if it is going to be there.
Well, it is out there quite a ways, 6 years. In the last
transportation bill we had, it was available for the State of Colorado.
In the last transportation bill, they had flexibility that the States
could use. There were some rather unique happenings in the Denver
metropolitan area in trying to meet the transportation needs of the
State as well as that metropolitan area. So for the State of Colorado
it is about a 46-percent increase. All total, we are talking about
934.3 million new dollars over and above what was provided in TEA-21.
If we want to spill those over into jobs, it is estimated that could
create as much as 44,300 new job opportunities in the State of
Colorado. So there is no doubt that if the infrastructure is worked on
and it is done the right way, it can create a lot of opportunity in
one's State. Certainly in the State of Colorado it is creating a lot of
opportunity for us.
Now, when we talk about transportation issues in my State, there are
a lot of things with which the local communities have to deal.
Obviously, there are those who have to commute to work who want to get
to work as fast as possible. There are those who say, look, we have air
pollution problems and as a result of that we want to restrict the
amount of driving that goes on. So maybe mass transit is one of the
ways to do that.
The first large mass transit line that we put in the State of
Colorado, in the Denver metro area, out toward what we would refer to
as the southwest corridor, has helped hold down our air pollution.
People are using that.
Some people say we spent a lot of money on mass transit but it does
not get used. Well, at least as far as the Denver metro area, it is
being used. In fact, it is being used to the point where it has
exceeded the amount of revenue that anybody anticipated. The usage is
much higher. There is so much demand to get on the train that one of
the things that has become an issue is parking, where are people going
to park around the various stations in order to be able to take the
train to work.
So now this has been moved a step further. With the success of that
train, they are taking the money and saying, OK, now we can expand it
out to the major project they are doing now, which is between two major
business centers. As far as Denver is concerned, it is going to help
the economy a lot. So when done right, this can create a lot of
opportunities in the various States.
Again, I would stress the importance of the provisions that we have
in here that encourage local control, encourage accountability,
encourage efficiency so public policymakers in one's State will ask:
What is it that we can do that will allow this project to move forward,
without unnecessary delays? Our communities will benefit if we can get
these projects done under budget and ahead of schedule.
This is something I think every community should have the opportunity
to strive for. As policymakers at the Federal level, it is something we
need to begin to push.
Again, the issue we are all facing is how to pay for this. I know the
Finance Committee struggled. We are still struggling with it. What is
the proper funding level for mass transit? I think the key markers that
the President and so many Members have talked about is that we have to
make sure the money is money that does not come out of the general
fund, that it stays with the--now I am talking about highways--gas tax,
because the gas tax is an allocated stream of revenue that has gone to
a special purpose, and that special purpose is to build roads and
highways and meet the needs of this Nation.
We need to make sure we stay with that principle. Also, we want to
make sure we do not begin to spend money on a bill, or through a bill,
that is going to add to our Nation's deficit. Our deficits in this
country are reaching historic highs, and we need to do something now to
get deficit spending under control.
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I think the Budget Committee and the Members of this body are
beginning to treat that issue in a very serious way. So we still have
some challenges ahead of us, as we move forward with this particular
legislation.
I have a lot of confidence in Chairman Inhofe as well as Chairman
Shelby. I think they have the ability to shepherd this very
controversial, very complicated piece of legislation through the
process.
This is just one body. You have the House. They take a little
different perspective on the highway transportation bill because they
have districts they have to represent, and they don't look at it from a
State view like those of us here in the Senate.
I don't like, in my State, to be putting in special projects because
what happens with special projects is they take away the flexibility of
the State. You are telling your State where they ought to be spending
their money on certain projects. I think that ought to be left to the
States.
For example, in the State of Colorado we have sort of a complicated
process. We have a highway commission. They allocate. They make
recommendations to the Governor and legislature. I don't feel
comfortable as a policymaker here in Washington telling my Governor and
the highway commission, people who know what is happening as far as
their transportation needs, what should be done in the State of
Colorado. So I try to avoid what is referred to as porkbarrel spending,
where you earmark any particular projects in your particular State
because I think that ought to be done in the State level.
In the Senate that has never been much of a problem. When you get to
the House side, where Members have their own districts they have to
worry about, sometimes they worry about not having adequate voice even
at the State level for the district they represent, particularly if it
is a rural area, because it gets run over by the masses in the
metropolitan areas. So on the House side you will see more earmarking,
but on the Senate side you don't see so much. If I talk to my
colleagues I try to encourage them to stay away from earmarking
projects.
I think the chairman on the Environment and Public Works Committee
shares those views. He has done a good job of making this a responsible
piece of legislation. We still have a few challenges ahead of us, but
it has been a pleasure working with the chairman.
I see he has made it here to the floor. I don't see anybody else
right now here who is interested in speaking, so without any more
comment on anything.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Oklahoma.
Mr. INHOFE. Mr. President, first of all, I appreciate the efforts my
colleague from Colorado has made on the committee all the way through,
in addition to the transit portion of this bill. We have had a very
cohesive committee in the time, well over a year, we have worked on
this issue.
I would like to go through a few more sections here until someone
appears, wanting to be recognized.
Arguably, this bill could be characterized as the most significant
bill we will deal with in terms of how it affects so many people.
Regarding the Real-Time System Management Information Program, real-
time information is the key to enhancing the operation and performance
in the management of our transportation system. In drafting this
legislation we adopted the ambitious and important goal of providing
nationwide capability of real-time traffic and travel information. The
more up-to-date information available to highway users, the better they
are able to utilize the highway transportation system efficiently. The
objectives of the Real-Time System Management Information Program
include improving the security of the surface transportation system,
addressing congestion problems, improving responses to weather events,
and facilitating national and regional travel information.
As part of this real-time information program, States are required to
establish a statewide incident reporting system within 2 years unless
the Secretary grants a longer extension of time.
We try to recognize all the way through the bill what we don't want
to do. Having been a mayor of a major city for four terms, I know what
unfunded mandates are. That is something we don't want to be a part of,
and we are not. We were sensitive to the problems of States and local
governments so unique problems we cannot foresee at this time are taken
care of with the discretion of the Secretary of Transportation.
Regarding future Interstate System routes, under current law, States
have 12 years to construct National Highway System roads according to
the standards of a highway on the Interstate System if they wish to
designate the highway as a future Interstate System route. Recognizing
the relative needs of the States and their respective abilities to meet
these standards, this bill extends the current 12-year requirement to
25 years in order to give States more time to substantially complete
the construction of highways designated as future Interstate System
routes.
One of the problems, if we didn't do this, is that is making this a
race to complete projects. The decision that programs should warrant
more time, we feel, is going to end up being in everyone's benefit.
Stewardship and oversight is section 1802. Value engineering is
another important stewardship tool for reducing the total cost of
projects and improving their quality. Along these lines, States must
annually certify the adequacy of their financial management systems and
project delivery systems to meet all Federal requirements for financial
integrity.
Accordingly, the Secretary is required to develop minimum standards
for estimating project costs and to periodically evaluate the States'
practices for estimating costs, awarding contracts, and reducing costs.
States must apply a value engineering analysis during the design phase
of all highway projects on the Federal aid system over $25 million and
all bridge projects over $20 million to reduce the overall cost of the
project and improve project quality.
Not only are States required to meet standards of financial integrity
for federally funded projects, but they must also determine that
subrecipients of those Federal dollars also have sufficient accounting
controls and project delivery systems.
The bill also contains mechanisms to protect future Federal aid
projects from fraud by mandating the debarment of contractors who have
been convicted of fraud related to Federal aid highway or transit
programs. It mandates the suspension of contractors who have been
indicted for offenses relating to fraud.
This has become a problem because there is no mechanism set up to
keep this from happening. We now will have the mechanism.
Section 1803 is design-build contracting. Under the current law, a
design-build contract is defined as an agreement that provides for both
the design and construction of a project. The goal of design-build
contracting is to reduce costs by contracting out the design and
construction of a project to a single contractor. At Senator Cornyn's
request, the bill expands eligibility for design-build projects to
include the design and construction of intermodal facilities.
Section 1804 is program efficiencies financing. To address certain
program efficiencies in the area of financing, the bill revises current
law by removing the existing restrictions that States must obligate all
apportioned or allocated funds or demonstrate they will use all
obligation authority allocated to it for a Federal aid highway or
highway safety construction before advanced construction projects are
approved. This revision clarifies that advance construction procedures
can be used for all categories of Federal aid funds, and that when a
project is converted at a regular Federal aid project, any available
Federal aid funds may be used to convert the project.
The bill further removes the existing requirement that the Secretary
first approve an application from the State before authorizing the
payment of the Federal share of the cost of the project when additional
funds are later apportioned or allocated to the State.
Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Alexander). The clerk will call the roll.
The legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
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Mr. FRIST. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for
the quorum call be rescinded.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. FRIST. Mr. President, I will be speaking, for the next several
moments, on leader time.
DC School Choice Incentive Act
Mr. President, very briefly, I will address two issues, the first
relating to a bill we passed 2 weeks ago. In fact, 14 days ago--exactly
2 weeks ago--the Senate voted 65 to 28 to help liberate Washington,
DC's schoolchildren from its worst performing public schools. The bill
itself was called DC Choice. The ``DC'' is obviously the District of
Columbia. And the ``choice'' really is right at the heart of empowering
parents and families and schoolchildren to participate in the decisions
that we know strike right at the heart of opening that American dream
and giving hope to young schoolchildren here in the District.
DC Choice had weathered years of debate and even a veto by President
Clinton, but finally DC Choice is on its way to the District's neediest
public school children.
It was 2 weeks ago that we passed a bill that helps schoolchildren
here in the District. Under the DC School Choice Incentive Act, the
District will receive 40 million new dollars to support public schools
and charter schools and choice scholarships. Indeed, nearly 2,000
District schoolchildren will now be able to receive federally funded
opportunity scholarships to the tune of about $7,500 each in order to
attend schools of their choice.
I take this opportunity to thank some of the people--I regard them as
true leaders--who made this historic legislation happen.
First, I commend Senator DeWine for his integrity and fairness in
guiding the school choice debate. Senator DeWine, as we all know, is a
consummate gentleman and has been an invaluable ally in the cause of
justice for the District's schoolchildren.
I also express my deep appreciation and respect for Senator Judd
Gregg. His passion for this issue, his dedication to this issue, his
unflagging commitment to seeing that DC's children get the very best
education possible, the best education we can offer, really is an
inspiration to us all.
Senator Feinstein also deserves tremendous praise for her leadership.
Her devoted support for DC schoolchildren was critical in moving this
legislation, this effort forward.
But in addition to our colleagues, none of this would have been
possible without the leadership and courage of the city's elected
leadership, people such as Mayor Anthony Williams. He has been sincere
and tenacious throughout the discussion and the debate. He has again
and again reflected his belief in and commitment to the District of
Columbia's children. Over the last several weeks and months, he has
shown extraordinary strength and determination in achieving that goal
of giving children here in the District that hope for the future, that
opportunity to succeed, to realize the American dream.
Others who have been instrumental in this effort--Cardinal McCarrick,
Peggy Cooper Cafritz, Kevin Chavous, and Virginia Walden Ford--have
demonstrated exemplary leadership in accomplishing passage of this
legislation. They are, to me, true champions of the public good, and
the District of Columbia is made better by their leadership.
I also thank Senate staffers Mary Dietrich, Sharon Soderstron,
Townsend Lange McNitt, and Denzel McGuire for their hard work, their
compassion, and their dedication to passage of this bill. They devoted
long hours to this legislation.
Washington, DC, the District here, is blessed to have caring and
committed citizens pressing for change. And with passage of this bill,
change is coming soon to the District's classrooms.
Some colleagues--some in this body and others--have implied that they
want to reverse this historic accomplishment. These individuals, I
think, by doing so, by expressing they want to see the reversal of this
historic accomplishment, at least imply to me tolerating the status
quo. That simply is unacceptable--the status quo--where we do have too
many failing schools here in the District, where we have frustrated
parents who see their children locked in these failing schools.
We have kids here in the District, within blocks and miles of this
Capitol Building, without hope, without ambitions, without dreams. We
have an obligation to help reverse this hopelessness, and indeed that
is exactly what this legislation does.
We no longer can keep this city's children in the shadows. It is time
to help lift them up, lift them up to ours and their parents' and their
families' highest expectations. Lifting the District's children out of
illiteracy and educational poverty, putting the District's children on
the path to academic excellence, is just too important. The District's
leaders want it, the District's parents want it, and, most importantly,
the District's children deserve it.
We can all expect intense scrutiny as this choice plan, which is now
law of the land, unfolds. Critics, I know, are going to assail every
perceived setback. But also expect the District of Columbia
schoolchildren to prove them wrong. In cities such as Detroit and
Milwaukee, where choice has been tried, choice has thrived. We see
scores go up; we see educational gaps narrow; we see parents much more
pleased, much happier with their children's schools; and we see that
public support for school choice rises.
Choice in the District will succeed because it is based on the belief
that achievement is for everyone and not just a privileged few; that if
you open the door to opportunity, hard-working people are going to step
through that door.
I am proud of everyone who made the D.C. educational choice happen.
It begins with the parents, probably ends with the legislators, but
also includes the elected officials and committed community leaders.
I am also proud of the District schoolchildren. Now, because of DC
Choice, they are more likely to have that more cherished of American
birthrights: a solid education, something we all know is the key to the
American dream.
Marriage
Mr. President, I will take just a few minutes and comment on another
issue, an issue that relates to the decision yesterday by the
Massachusetts Supreme Court. By now we have all heard that, in the
decision yesterday made by the Massachusetts Supreme Court, same-sex
marriage is the law of that State according to the courts. Indeed,
same-sex marriage licenses will be issued beginning May 17 in
Massachusetts.
Same-sex couples from across the Nation will go to Massachusetts to
get married. They will return to their home States--whether it be
Tennessee or Alabama or Wyoming or Ohio, all 50 States--and I would
think and assume that all of them would sue.
Some of our best legal minds conclude that courts will require
recognition of same-sex marriage in every single State in the Nation.
Marriage should remain the union of a man and a woman. The evidence
is overwhelming that children do best with a mother and a father. We
are gambling with our future if we permit activist judges to redefine
marriage for our whole society.
I want to be very clear: We reject intolerance. We reject hatred. We
must treat all our fellow citizens with civility and kindness. But
marriage should not be redefined by the courts, and we in this body
cannot let it. We will not let it.
The U.S. Congress has codified this principle in the Defense of
Marriage Act. It passed with 85 votes in the Senate and was signed by
President Clinton in 1996. We must protect, preserve, and strengthen
the institution of marriage against activist judges. If that means we
must amend the Constitution, as it seems increasingly likely, then we
will do just that.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Montana.
Cuba
Mr. BAUCUS. Mr. President, I would like to spend some time today
talking about the issue of Cuba. This was an issue that the Senate
spent a lot of time on last year, and I am here today to tell my
colleagues we are just as committed this year.
Last year, as most Members know, we made tremendous progress toward
eliminating the Cuba travel ban and
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easing the four-decade-old embargo. As part of the appropriations
process last year, both the Senate and the House passed amendments
overwhelmingly that would temporarily suspend enforcement of the Cuba
travel ban.
I was, frankly, not only disappointed but outraged that this
provision was taken out of the final omnibus bill. It should not have
been, especially since the measure passed both bodies by very large
margins. In stripping out that provision, the leadership broke the
rules of Congress and defied the will of the majority of both Houses.
That is simply undemocratic. It is wrong. It is not the way bills
should be handled.
While disappointed, I emphasize today that the majority of us who
favor ending this embargo will work hard this year to pass legislation,
one way or another, through both bodies of the Congress, through
conference, and on to the President's desk. Senators Enzi, Dorgan, and
I have introduced legislation that would permanently end the travel
ban. Last year, that legislation passed out of the Foreign Relations
Committee by a vote of 13 to 5, a very large margin. The bill has 33
cosponsors and is now ready for floor consideration. I respectfully ask
the majority and minority leaders to make floor time available to
consider the legislation.
The fight to end the Cuba travel ban is not over. It has just begun.
It is ironic that we finally face this moment at the same time that we
are scrutinizing both the war on terrorism and the stretched Federal
budget because enforcing the Cuba travel ban means the use of scarce
Federal resources.
It is important for Senators to understand that the Cuba travel ban
is enforced by the same Federal agency--the Office of Foreign Assets
Control or OFAC--that also is charged with rooting out the sources of
international terrorist financing and stopping the spread of weapons of
mass destruction. Somewhere overseas, a massive international financial
network routes millions of dollars to Osama bin Laden and other
terrorists. Their access to dollars is their lifeline, their sole means
of attacking our citizens and our soldiers. Rooting out this network
and shutting it down is clearly one of our Nation's top priorities. Yet
the very agency that is charged with this crucial task must divert
valuable resources to enforce an absurd travel ban that a clear
majority of Congress has already voted to terminate. It doesn't make
any sense.
By its own estimate, OFAC diverts one-sixth of its employee resources
to enforcing a silly travel ban. How can we justify diverting $1 of
this limited budget, let alone one-sixth of our resources? Just as
disturbing, late last week the Department of Homeland Security
announced that it, too, would divert some of its resources to
monitoring U.S. citizens who might have traveled to Cuba.
In a post-9/11 world, I do not understand the administration's
priorities. I hope this year we can finally change this policy and the
Senate will have a chance to fully debate the issue so we can finally
make some sense out of the travel policy we do not have with Cuba.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The assistant Democratic leader.
Mr. REID. What is the matter now before the Senate? Is it the Dorgan
amendment or the Gregg amendment?
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The matter before the Senate is the Shelby
amendment.
Mr. REID. I thank the Chair.
I suggest the absence of a quorum.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll.
The assistant legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
Mr. DASCHLE. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order
for the quorum call be rescinded.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
MAD COW DISEASE
Mr. DASCHLE. Mr. President, I wanted to take a minute to come to the
floor this afternoon to talk about the report issued yesterday by an
international panel of experts that was convened by the Department of
Agriculture to look at this whole issue of BSE, otherwise known as mad
cow disease. They have, once again, announced--and publicly stated--
what many of us have known for a long time, that there are still many
outstanding questions about BSE.
I think the unfortunate fact about all of this is that the one
question for which there isn't any doubt is the origin of the mad cow
problem to date: one Canadian-born cow which cost a tremendous amount
of market and value in the agricultural markets today. The one cow has
shed an adverse light on American cattle producers in a way that is not
only unfair but extraordinarily costly to every producer in the country
today.
Just yesterday--yesterday--the cost per hundred in the Chicago
Mercantile Exchange was $75. A couple of weeks ago, it was $118 per
hundred. So we have seen a precipitous drop in the marketplace. Yet we
still see a resistance on the part of many with regard to one simple
effort that could change a great deal of confidence on the part of the
American consumer--a change that has already been adopted by 43 other
countries. Forty-three countries currently have country-of-origin
labeling. We have been told by some of our exporting partners in some
of those markets abroad that unless we implement country-of-origin
labeling, we can forget about exporting our products to those
countries. So we languish with tens of millions of dollars of product
still on the water unable to unload in those markets, and unable to
bring the product back to this country because we don't want to further
jeopardize what fragile market there is.
We have--I do not recall now the exact figure--tens of millions of
pounds worth hundreds of millions of dollars out there on ships unable
to go anywhere in large measure because we continue to refuse to label
the product. It is not just a question of consumer information, as
important as that is.
I find it intriguing that today we label for content. We can tell you
down to the last gram what is in a can or a package. We can tell you
what the nutritional value is. We can tell you how many carbohydrates
there are. We can tell what the calories are and the fat, but we can't
tell you from what country it has come. It is a remarkable omission.
What is all the more remarkable is that there are those who actually
argue that it would be an impractical requirement. We have already
adjusted to content. We have adjusted to nutrition. But somehow it is
impractical--and we are told almost impossible--for us to put country-
of-origin label. I don't know anybody who honestly believes that, but
there are those who profess that.
There is a reluctance on the part of the administration and a
reluctance on the part of some in the Congress to recognize what I
think is inevitable. One day we will have country-of-origin labeling.
One day we will have the full advantage--I would say the patriotic
advantage--of ensuring that we know we are eating American beef and
agricultural products--one day. But that day should have been a year
ago when we passed the farm bill. We gave them a year. They had until
last September to implement it, and we have now been put on a 2-
year delay.
But this international export issue, the consumer information issue,
and the tremendous advantage in creating greater competence for
producers alone ought to be arguments that the time has come for us to
pass country-of-origin labeling without incumbrance.
For the life of me, I can't understand in this day and age, with all
the facts on the side of those who argue in favor that there can still
be the intransigence, that there can still be the reluctance and that
there can still be the opposition from the administrations, the
meatpackers, and some of our Republican colleagues in the House in
particular. This is not a partisan issue in the Senate. There have been
a number of Republican and Democratic Senators who have worked together
to cosponsor legislation. An overwhelming number of Members have voted
in favor--not once but twice so far. We have had ample debate. I must
say I think the arguments get flimsier and flimsier.
The international panel that convened and looked at this situation
once again offer us yet another illustration as to why it is important
for us to do this now.
Let's pass country-of-origin labeling. Let's ensure that consumers
have the same information as fellow consumers have in 43 other
countries. Let's do for origin what we have already done for nutrition
and for content.
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We will continue to offer amendments. We will continue to make it the
policy of this Senate, we will continue to ask for rollcall votes, and
we will continue to keep the pressure on until this job is done. I
think it is inexcusable and somewhat embarrassing that in this day and
age with all the facts presented to us, as they now have been, that
there could be any question. We need to get this job done--I think for
good reason among producers and consumers alike. Patience is wearing
thin.
Mr. DORGAN. Mr. President, will the Senator from South Dakota yield
for a question?
Mr. DASCHLE. I would be happy to yield to the Senator from North
Dakota.
Mr. DORGAN. Mr. President, let me say that the Senator from South
Dakota, Mr. Daschle, has been leading on this issue for some long, long
while.
Country-of-origin labeling is a requirement under the law. We passed
it. It is just that this administration and the U.S. Department of
Agriculture doesn't want to implement country-of-origin labeling.
I held up a beefsteak by consent here on the floor of the Senate
about 2 weeks ago, and I asked the question: Can anyone here tell me
where this piece of beefsteak came from? Everyone can say where his
necktie comes from. That is labeled. Just turn it over. But can anyone
tell where a beefsteak comes from? Could it have come from the plant in
Mexico where one USDA inspector showed up, and found diseased carcasses
hanging, covered with feces, getting ready to be put in the meat supply
for human consumption in the United States? Could it be from that
plant?
After that USDA inspection, that plant changed its name, changed
owner, the inspector has never been back, and that plant is certified
now to ship into this country. The question was, did that beefsteak
come from that plant, a plant from Guatemala, Canada, the United
States? Where? No one knows.
I ask the Senator from South Dakota, can he tell me which special
interest has fought so aggressively, so long, and so hard to try to
prevent country-of-origin labeling and prevent consumers and farmers
and ranchers from being able to understand where this meat comes from?
Who has the administration listened to, in deciding not to implement
current law?
Mr. DASCHLE. That is a very good question, and I must say I know the
Senator from North Dakota certainly knows the answer, but for the
record it is the packers. There is an amazing coalition on one side,
over 160 consumer groups--agriculture groups, good government groups of
all kinds, people who have said without equivocation, this is good law,
it ought to be done--160-plus groups on one side, the packers on the
other side. Guess who has sided with whom? The administration is
saying, we have to listen to those packers.
The point made by the Senator from North Dakota is absolutely right.
We have had a change of heart with regard to downer cattle in this
country and it goes to the point the Senator from North Dakota is
making. We had the picture of a British downer cow, crippled, sick,
unhealthy, and that picture was portrayed over and over and over again.
Rarely was it noted that downer cow was not from the United States,
that was a British downer cow. But it left the perception there are
downer cows in this country that were entering the meat system, sick
cattle, diseased cattle entering the meat system. So that steak could
have come from a downer cow, a diseased cow.
What happened? The administration rightfully said, we are going to
ban downer cattle from the market. I applauded it when they did. Now
they say, by and large, other countries are beginning to comply, as
well. But we do not have any assurance that downer cattle are going to
be prevented from entering our meat processing system even now. While
we have the safest system in the world, we ought to be able to buy and
eat and be confident about our beef products because we have such a
safe system, wouldn't it be nice to know whether or not an imported
product which potentially could be a product from a downer cow came
from Canada or Mexico or some other country? Wouldn't it be nice to
know we have that additional confidence that we are eating beef where
downer cattle have been expressly prohibited?
That is what we are talking about, improving upon an already good
meat safety system. That, too, is a good reason why country-of-origin
labeling ought to be law today.
Mr. DORGAN. If the Senator would allow me to inquire further, the
opposition to country-of-origin labeling, as the Senator indicated,
comes from the big meat packing plants, the beef packing plants. Eighty
percent of the beef packing is controlled by four companies. It is a
case of big interests versus the rest.
The ranchers of South Dakota and North Dakota produce the best
quality beef in the world. We know that. They know that. So the
question is, why should the consumers not be able to have access to the
information about where this beef comes from at the meat counter when
they purchase the meat? Is it South Dakota beef, North Dakota beef,
Guatemala beef, or Mexico beef?
I will read the specifics regarding the Mexican plant because it is
important. I discussed this previously in the Senate. In 1999, in May,
one inspector from this country paid a surprise visit to a meat packing
plant in Mexico. He found ``shanks and briskets contaminated with
feces; disease condemned carcass was observed ready for boning and
distribution into commerce.'' Then the Mexican officials took note,
went to work to restore that plant's ability to sell meat in America.
The Mexican plant regained the export license, it switched owners, it
switched its name, and it now sells meat in America.
The question is, in South Dakota, when you buy a beefsteak, is it
coming from a ranch in South Dakota? The consumers ought to have a
right to know and ranchers and farmers want them to have that right.
This Congress and this President ought to stand up for the interests of
people out there farming and ranching in this country who demand this
country-of-origin labeling become law.
Senator Daschle has led the fight for some years. I appreciate the
fact today you said you will not quit. We will get this done. And
whether it is forcing them to see the light or feel the heat, one way
or the other, this administration has to stand aside and get out of the
way and let us get this done for the American consumer.
Mr. DASCHLE. Mr. President, I reiterate my thanks to the Senator from
North Dakota because he has been right alongside those fighting from
the very first. I remember during the debate on the farm bill he was in
the room as we began writing country-of-origin labeling. He was
extremely helpful in ensuring we did the right thing in terms of the
way the legislation initially was drafted. His point is well taken.
Today, we see an unusual phenomenon. It is not often producers and
consumers merge, coalesce, and form the coalition they have in support
of public policy. But in this case, it is one of those occurrences. One
hundred and sixty organizations, consumers, producers, virtually every
good government organization that cares about nutritional issues and
agricultural issues, food and production issues, have joined together
to say the time has come for us to do this. We have to do it now in
light of BSE, in particular. Let's get this job done.
The international experts convened. They, too, said there are a lot
of questions out there. We need to make sure we get the right answers
to those questions. I am simply saying, as a result of yet another
report, we have one more reason why country-of-origin labeling should
be law today.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from North Dakota.
State of Intelligence
Mr. DORGAN. Mr. President, George Tenet gave a speech today at
Georgetown that was profoundly disturbing to me and I want to visit
about it for a moment.
I am not on the Senate Intelligence Committee. I am not someone who
claims to have substantial knowledge or detailed knowledge about all of
these issues. I spend a great deal of time concerned about economic
issues and think I know something about some of those, but I do not
pretend to be an expert in foreign policy or intelligence issues.
I, as have all of my colleagues, have sat in rooms with a label
called ``top
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secret'' and listened to briefings, top-secret, classified briefings
from Mr. Tenet, from the Vice President, from National Security Advisor
Condoleezza Rice, from Secretary Powell, and others. I, like others,
have watched what has happened in recent weeks with the testimony from
David Kay in which he came to the Senate as a witness and said, look,
we got it all wrong. We were all wrong about the intelligence with
respect to Iraq.
I listened to David Kay describe his assessment of the intelligence
system--again, this is the top weapons inspector, appointed by
President Bush--and what he said was, this country got it all wrong.
Its intelligence service got it all wrong. He said, they failed the
President.
They did not just fail the President of the United States, if they
failed. They failed the President and they failed those in Congress who
they looked right in the eye as they gave top-secret briefings to us
about their assessment of intelligence. They failed the American
people, in my judgment. So this failure was much greater than just a
failure to properly inform the President.
This country has an enormous stake in making sure we have an
intelligence community that works, one we support, and one we are proud
of. Why? Someplace this afternoon there are intelligence agents who are
pouring over the thinnest of hints about what terrorists might be
deciding to do to murder Americans, to attack an American city, to
commit a terrorist act against our country, and we must rely on those
intelligence agents and the intelligence community to understand it and
to get it right, not to exaggerate it, not to misinterpret it, but to
understand it and get it right. The safety and security of this country
depends on it.
None of us wants the intelligence community to be held up in anything
other than the highest esteem. I want to be able to say the
intelligence community gets it and gets it right. But I cannot do that
at the moment.
Something is wrong, and we must fix it. When the top weapons
inspector comes to the Congress and says, look, the intelligence was
all wrong, it failed the President, you don't need much more than that
to understand somebody has to be accountable. We have to, posthaste,
begin to fix that which failed us.
I have not heard of all of Mr. Tenet's presentation; I just heard the
highlights a bit ago in which he was defending the CIA. But let me
describe one of the reasons I found Mr. Tenet's remarks so distressing.
Last evening I happened to be watching something on ``60 Minutes.''
They were interviewing a gentleman named Greg Thielmann. Mr. Thielmann
had been in charge of analyzing Iraqi weapons threats for Secretary of
State Colin Powell's Intelligence Bureau. He was the one who, after 25
years, became the Acting Director of the Office of Strategic
Proliferation and Military Affairs. He was responsible, before he
retired, for analyzing the Iraqi weapons threat.
He and his staff had the highest security clearances. They saw
virtually everything, whether it came in to the CIA or the Defense
Department. He was, by all accounts, admired by everyone, and had a
long and distinguished career.
During the ``60 Minutes'' interview, Mr. Thielmann describes watching
the February 5, 2003, presentation Secretary Powell made to the United
Nations. He says at the time Secretary Powell made that presentation he
was nonplused by what Secretary Powell was saying. He says what Powell
was saying about a range of things was not at all in concert with the
intelligence the State Department had. About the charge that Iraq was
importing aluminum tubes to use in a program to build nuclear weapons--
he said:
This is one of the most disturbing parts of Secretary
Powell's speech for us.
He is talking now of those who were part of the intelligence-
gathering part of the State Department.
Intelligence agents intercepted the tubes in 2001, and the CIA said
they were parts for a centrifuge to enrich uranium--fuel for an atom
bomb. But they got information from the Oak Ridge National Laboratory--
those are the scientists who enrich uranium for our bombs, our nuclear
weapons--and the experts there advised that the tubes were all wrong
for a bomb program and the aluminum, apparently, it turns out, after
further inspection, was exactly what the Iraqis wanted for artillery.
So they sent the word up to Secretary Powell this is not about
nuclear weapons, it is about artillery, and the fellow who is at the
Oak Ridge Laboratory, Houston Wood, said:
I guess I was angry, that's the best way to describe my
emotions. I was angry at that.
Mr. Thielmann was talking now about Secretary Powell's speech to the
United Nations. He said he found that the tubes could not be what the
CIA thought they were. They were too heavy, three times too thick, and
certain to leak.
The transcript says:
``Wasn't going to work. They would have failed,'' says
Wood. . . .
And they reached that conclusion in 2001.
They reported to Secretary Powell's office that they were confident
the tubes were not for a nuclear program. And then nothing happened.
About a year later, when the administration was building the case for
the war, the tubes were resurrected on the front page of the New York
Times. And Mr. Wood says:
I thought when I read that there must be some other tubes
that people were talking about. I just was flabbergasted that
people were still pushing that those might be centrifuges.
The New York Times reported that senior administration officials
insisted the tubes were for an atom bomb program.
Again, Mr. Wood, the expert from Oak Ridge Laboratories, says:
Science was not pushing this forward. Scientists had made
their determination, their evaluation, and now we didn't know
what was happening.
The scientists had already said this cannot be for the development of
nuclear weapons.
So in his United Nations speech, Secretary Powell acknowledged there
was a disagreement about the aluminum tubes, but he said most experts
agreed with the nuclear theory. Mr. Powell said:
There is controversy about what these tubes are for. Most
U.S. experts think they are intended to serve as rotors in
centrifuges used to enrich uranium.
Most of the experts--nearly all of the experts--are at Oak Ridge. And
Mr. Houston Wood, at Oak Ridge, claims he does not know anyone in
academia or a foreign government who would disagree with his appraisal.
He said: I don't know a single person anywhere who believed that
these aluminum tubes were for a nuclear program.
Now, I do not understand this. It appears to me that information was
available that would have debunked several key portions. I have not
talked about the alleged yellowcake purchase from Niger, which was in
the President's State of the Union Address, which turned out to have
been wrong, or the UAVs, the most sensitive of information, which
turned out to be wrong.
Mr. Thielmann, who was, again, the top official at the State
Department for the gathering of intelligence for presentation to
Secretary Powell, talked about some of the slides Secretary Powell was
using. He talked about the stockpile of between 100 and 500 tons of
chemical weapons. He said part of the stockpile was clearly in these
bunkers. He was showing slides:
The four that are in red squares represent active chemical
munitions bunkers. How do I know that, how can I say that?
Let me give you a closer look.
Up close, Powell said you could see a truck for cleaning up chemical
spills. It is a signature for a chemical bunker.
Quote:
It's a decontamination vehicle in case something goes
wrong.
But again, Mr. Thielmann, who is the top intelligence person who is
providing information to Powell, said:
My understanding is that these particular vehicles were
simply fire trucks. You cannot really describe [that] as
being a unique signature.
In fact, it is interesting, when the weapons inspectors showed up
over there, that is what they discovered, it was firetrucks. And in
other circumstances, that which was part of the slides shown, they were
trucks with cobwebs in them and had not been used for a long while.
There was no evidence of weapons of mass destruction.
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So this is a ``60 Minutes'' presentation from the last evening, in
which a top intelligence person, with all the clearances, having seen
all the intelligence, says Secretary Powell, and others, would have had
the intelligence to deal with these questions easily.
This debate is not about pulling Saddam Hussein out of a rat hole.
Saddam Hussein was more than a rat. Saddam Hussein was an evil man who
killed thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands. It is the case our
country has opened mass graves the size of football fields, and those
graves contain the skeletons of thousands and thousands and thousands
of Iraqis. The world is much better off because Saddam Hussein has been
apprehended and no longer runs the country of Iraq.
But the question for this country--and it is an important question--
is, when the call is made the next time--perhaps an hour from now,
perhaps a month from now--to have our intelligence community make an
accurate assessment, will they make an assessment that is accurate?
Will they fail us? Will they fail the President? Will they fail our
country? This is a very significant issue.
Mr. Tenet's speech today was not only defensive, but Mr. Tenet's
speech failed, in my judgment, to acknowledge what the country has
widely acknowledged, starting with David Kay and others, that the
intelligence failed us with respect to Iraq. And that bothers me a
great deal.
Now, I know there will be people who come to the floor of the Senate,
and they will say none of this really matters. Saddam Hussein was a bad
guy. He was; no question about that. But if you say that good
intelligence does not matter, then don't sleep very well tonight
because terrorists want to commit terrorist acts in this country.
Terrorists want to kill people in this country. The only way we are
going to make certain we protect this country is through good, strong
intelligence.
I worry a great deal about an intelligence community that does not
seem to be accountable, does not get it right, and no one cares. The
President ought to be furious about what is happening. The Congress
ought to be apoplectic about what is happening. Both should demand on
an urgent basis a complete, thorough review of what went wrong and how
to fix it--not tomorrow, not yesterday, but right now. I don't see that
urgency at all. What I see is the President finally getting pushed and
nudged the last couple days, saying: I will put together an independent
commission that can investigate intelligence, only under pressure.
Then we have people who come to the floor and say: There is no
problem here. Saddam Hussein was a bad guy found in a rat hole. It is
better that he is in jail.
Every single one of us--Republicans, Democrats, the White House, and
the Congress, and especially the American people--must rely on a strong
system of intelligence that gets it right to protect this country's
long-term security. To the extent that, as David Kay indicated, it
failed and to the extent that, as so many others have testified,
circumstance after circumstance that was alleged was not accurate, and
to the extent now that Mr. Tenet continues today to seem to believe all
was well and all those who are critical are somehow just plain wrong,
America is weakened for that.
We will strengthen ourselves when we understand we must rely on good
intelligence. And if we have not received good intelligence, we must
fix that system now. It must be done posthaste. It must be job one.
There is an urgency for us to take action now to make certain the next
intelligence assessment, perhaps an hour from now, to try to protect
this country will be an assessment that is accurate and one upon which
we can rely.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Arizona.
Mr. KYL. Mr. President, I wish to respond to a few of the comments
our colleague from North Dakota has just made. I begin with the
proposition that it does help to have been on the Senate Intelligence
Committee or to be a member of the committee today to conduct a more
thoughtful, reasoned discussion of this debate than has generally been
characterized by the media accounts.
People in the media tend to try to capsulize everything in an
attention-grabbing headline way when in fact intelligence is a very
complex, difficult proposition that needs to be handled and approached
in the most cautious and careful manner.
I think it is important for those people who have been on the
committee or, as the Senator from Missouri sitting next to me noted,
currently just received briefings as a member of the committee--it is
important for them to be able to respond when comments have been made
such as those just concluded.
David Kay did not say we got it all wrong. I invite anyone who would
like to bring to this floor a quotation from David Kay that says ``we
got it all wrong'' to do so. He did not say that. I know that is what
opponents of the Bush administration wish he had said, but he didn't
say that. Let me quote to you some of the things he did say.
He was asked a question by Senator McCain testifying before the House
Armed Services Committee:
You agree with the fundamental principle here that what we
did was justified and enhanced the security of the United
States and the world by removing Saddam Hussein from power?
David Kay:
Absolutely.
But then Senator Kennedy asked a question that kind of got to some of
the points our colleague from North Dakota just made. He asked:
Many of us feel that the evidence so far leads only to one
conclusion: that what has happened was more than a failure of
intelligence, it was the result of manipulation of the
intelligence to justify a decision to go to war.
David Kay:
All I can say is if you read the total body of intelligence
in the last 12 to 15 years that flowed on Iraq, I quite
frankly think it would be hard to come to a conclusion other
than Iraq was a gathering, serious threat to the world with
regard to WMD.
That is exactly the conclusion that other Members of this body
articulated. I won't quote names, but I remember several of my
colleagues, including a Member on the other side of the aisle, saying
pretty much the same thing.
President Clinton said almost exactly the same thing. In fact, in
1998, we overwhelmingly passed a resolution in this body authorizing
President Clinton to take action to remove the Saddam Hussein regime in
Iraq precisely because of this. The intelligence that existed then,
that existed before then, and that existed before our most recent
conflict with Iraq all verified what David Kay said was true.
So far from saying that we got it all wrong, David Kay is saying we
were perfectly justified in taking the action we took. Part of getting
it all wrong would have been the information that we had regarding the
violations of the U.N. resolutions. What did David Kay think about
that?
He said:
In my judgment, based on the work that has been done to
this point of the Iraq Survey Group, and in fact, that I
reported to you in October, Iraq was in clear violation of
the terms of Resolution 1441. Resolution 1441 required that
Iraq report all of its activities: one last chance to come
clean about what it had. We have discovered hundreds of
cases, based on both documents, physical evidence and the
testimony of Iraqis, of activities that were prohibited under
the initial U.N. Resolution 687 and that should have been
reported under 1441, with Iraqi testimony that not only did
they not tell the U.N. about this, they were instructed not
to do it and they hid the material.
Iraq was in clear and material violation of 1441. They
maintained programs and activities, and they certainly had
the intentions at a point to resume their program. So there
was a lot they wanted to hide because it showed what they
were doing was illegal. I hope we find even more evidence of
that.
This is what David Kay actually said. One of the arguments made was
that, somehow or other, the CIA and our intelligence community were
pressured by the Bush administration to somehow modify the intelligence
to suit their nefarious purposes, the implication being that the
administration wanted to go to war and needed to somehow manipulate the
intelligence to reach that conclusion.
Here is what David Kay said about that:
And let me take one of the explanations most commonly
given: Analysts were pressured to reach conclusions that
would fit the political agenda of one or another
administration. I deeply think that is a wrong explanation.
And never--not in a single case--was the explanation, ``I was
pressured to do
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this.'' The explanation was, very often, ``The limited data
we had led one to reasonably conclude this. I now see that
there's another explanation for it.'' And each case was
different, but the conversations were sufficiently in depth
and our relationship was sufficiently frank that I'm
convinced that, at least to the analysts I dealt with, I did
not come across a single one that felt it had been, in the
military term, ``inappropriate command influence'' that led
them to take that position.
Some people in saying, well, maybe we didn't get it all wrong, but
what was the real state of intelligence here and did it comport with
what we thought we knew--I thought the colloquy between Senator McCain
and David Kay at this hearing was most interesting.
Senator McCain:
Saddam Hussein developed and used weapons of mass
destruction; true?
David Kay:
Absolutely.
Parenthetically, I would note, this is not an answer from a man who
is saying we got it all wrong because, remember, the allegation had
been that Saddam Hussein had developed and used weapons of mass
destruction. So he didn't say: We got it all wrong. He said:
Absolutely.
Senator McCain then:
He used them against the Iranians and the Kurds; just yes
or no.
David Kay:
Oh, yes.
Senator McCain:
OK. And U.N. inspectors found enormous quantities of banned
chemical and biological weapons in Iraq in the '90s?
David Kay:
Yes, sir.
Senator McCain:
We know that Saddam Hussein had once a very active nuclear
program.
David Kay:
Yes.
Senator McCain:
And he realized and had ambitions to develop and use
weapons of mass destruction.
David Kay:
Clearly.
Senator McCain:
So the point is, if he were in power today, there is no
doubt that he would harbor ambitions for the development and
use of weapons of mass destruction. Is there any doubt in
your mind?
David Kay:
There's absolutely no doubt. And I think I've said that,
Senator.
There is one final thing I would like to talk about that David Kay
actually said. Senator Clinton asked him a question at that hearing as
follows:
I think that rightly does raise questions that we should be
examining about whether or not the U.N. inspection process
pursuant to 1441 might not also have worked without the loss
of life that we have confronted both among our own young men
and women, as well as Iraqis.
David Kay:
Well, Senator Clinton, let me just add to that. We have had
a number of Iraqis who have come forward and said, ``We did
not tell the U.N. about what we were hiding, nor would we
have told the U.N. because we would run the risk of our
own''--I think we have learned things that no U.N. inspector
would have ever learned given the terror regime of Saddam and
the tremendous personal consequences that scientists had to
run by speaking the truth. That's not to say, and it's not
incompatible with the fact that inspections accomplish a
great deal in holding a program down. And that's where the
surprise is. In holding the program down, in keeping it from
break out, I think the record is better than we would have
anticipated. I don't think the record is necessarily better
than we thought with regard to getting the final truth,
because of the power of the terrorist state that Saddam
Hussein had.
The bottom line is that David Kay recognizes that, while the U.N.
inspectors found certain things, the inspections that he performed were
even more helpful because of the pressure that the Iraqis had been
under when Saddam Hussein was in power. But what David Kay said--if you
read all of the rest of the testimony--was basically this: There are
many things we found about Saddam Hussein's weapons program. We even
found some weapons, and we talked to a lot of Iraqis who told us that
he had every intention of reinitiating the programs once the sanctions
were lifted. Everything was in place for him to do that.
The thing that puzzled David Kay is that we had not found the stocks
of chemical weapons, primarily. We knew that he had artillery shells,
some of which were filled with chemical agents, and others that could
be filled with chemical agents, and that he had large stocks of those
agents, as well as some biological agents.
How do we know that is true? Because the Iraqis admitted that and the
U.N. inspectors confirmed it. He admitted it in 1998. He never
explained what happened to those stocks thereafter.
Now, one would think that when he admits that he has the stuff--and
we know that he used that same kind of weapon before--that if he
doesn't prove to us that he got rid of it--in fact, he offers no
explanation about where it is--you have to assume that he hasn't. It
would be imprudent to assume otherwise.
So to suggest that David Kay came back and said, no, we got it all
wrong, that is wrong. What he puzzles about was why we had not found
this stock of artillery shells.
Before the military activity was taken, all of the Senators were
invited every day at 9 o'clock to go to the secure area of the Capitol
to visit with the general and CIA people who briefed us on the status
of the war. Every morning, if colleagues will remember, one of the
things they briefed us on was how close our troops were getting to the
red line--that line around Baghdad--where we had information that
artillery with chemical shells could be lobbed against our soldiers. We
did everything we could to stop that. We bombed warehouses of
artillery, and we were trying to take out the command and control that
would issue the orders. We dropped millions of leaflets on the military
commanders of the Iraqis, saying they would be war criminals if they
carried out orders to fire those artillery shells against our troops.
We were surprised when we took the Baghdad Airport and they had not
fired the artillery shells. We thought they were going to use them. We
went to a lot of trouble to take them out. Maybe we took them out.
Maybe we ruined their plan with command and control. Maybe they had
gotten rid of them by then. Maybe they buried them or sent them to
Syria.
Secretary Rumsfeld testified yesterday that there are about five
different scenarios that could explain why we have not found the
artillery shells so far. David Kay says he is not sure we will ever
find them, or that they existed on the day we went to war against Iraq.
Maybe they had been destroyed, although you would wonder why Saddam
Hussein didn't tell anybody about it. Maybe they were sent to other
countries or maybe they were given to terrorists. That would be a
terrible thing, but we don't know.
Obviously, we had no evidence that they no longer existed. At one
time, they existed. So it is far from David Kay saying we got it all
wrong; he is saying that we got it all right, except--and I am
paraphrasing here--for the fact that we cannot explain what happened to
those weapons, and he wonders whether they existed when we went to war.
What does George Tenet have to say about it? Our colleague says that
George Tenet's comments were defensive. Maybe they were a little
defensive. If you have been the subject of attack for several weeks
about how you got it all wrong, you would be defensive, too.
I found his speech today to be a very interesting presentation, a
careful presentation about what, in fact, we knew, why we knew it, and
why it would not have been prudent for us not to take action on it. I
thought this to be particularly interesting.
One of the things that he said was:
To understand a difficult topic like Iraq takes patience
and care. Unfortunately, you rarely hear a patient, careful,
or thoughtful discussion of intelligence these days. But
these times demand it because the alternative--politicized,
haphazard evaluation, without the benefit of time and facts--
may well result in an intelligence community that is damaged
and a country that is more at risk.
I don't find that defensive. Rather, I find it an attempt to try to
put this discussion into a thoughtful, careful way of analyzing where
we were right and where we were wrong, and how to make sure we are as
right as possible in the future. He went on to say:
By definition, intelligence deals with the unclear, the
unknown, the deliberately hidden. What the enemies of the
United States hope to deny, we work to reveal. The question
being asked about Iraq in the starkest terms is, were we
right or were we wrong? In
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the intelligence business, you are almost never completely
wrong or completely right.
He goes on to detail the information we had about the missile program
of the Iraqis. I would like to say to colleagues, with respect to the
missile program, it appears that we got it right. He talks about what
we thought we knew, what he told the President we thought we knew, and
what we believe is the case of our military actions. And with respect
to their efforts to develop missiles that were in violation of U.N.
resolutions, they appear to have gotten that pretty well right.
His conclusion on that was this, and I will quote it:
My provisional bottom line on the missiles: We were
generally on target.
He says that because he urges us to consider the fact that there is
still a great deal of information left to be discovered in Iraq. They
are nowhere near complete in their effort to try to find what Saddam
Hussein had and to analyze how dangerous it was.
With respect to that general proposition, I want to quote this:
And to come to conclusions before the war other than those
we reached, we would have had to ignore all the intelligence
gathered from multiple sources after 1998.
He detailed many here. He said:
My provisional bottom line on missiles: We were generally
on target.
Regarding the unmanned aerial vehicles, he said:
My provisional bottom line today: We detected
the development of prohibited and undeclared unmanned
aerial vehicles. But the jury is still out on whether Iraq
intended to use its newer, smaller, unmanned aerial
vehicle to deliver biological weapons.
With regard to nuclear weapons, he said:
My provisional bottom line today: Saddam did not have a
nuclear weapon, he still wanted one, and Iraq intended to
reconstitute a nuclear program at some point. We have not yet
found clear evidence that dual-use items Iraq sought were for
nuclear reconstitution. We do not yet know if any
reconstitution efforts had begun. But we may have
overestimated the progress Saddam was making.
That is in contrast to what he said before the first gulf war when he
noted that that colored the way they approached their analysis with
respect to his nuclear program.
Then, with respect to a biological program, he said:
My provisional bottom line today: Iraq intended to develop
biological weapons. Clearly, research and development work
was underway that would have permitted a rapid shift to agent
production if seed stocks were available. But we do not yet
know if production took place. And just as clearly, we have
not yet found biological weapons.
Finally, with regard to the chemical weapons, he said:
My provisional bottom line today: Saddam had the intent and
capability to quickly convert civilian industry to chemical
weapons production. However, we have not yet found the
weapons we expected.
I will quote a little more on this point:
I have now given you my provisional bottom lines, but it is
important to remember that estimates are not written in a
vacuum. Let me tell you some of what was going on in the fall
of 2002.
He proceeds to detail several kinds of sources that came to the
attention of the intelligence community, sources which provided
information which no rational intelligence leader would have ignored:
Saddam Hussein calling together his nuclear weapons committee--I am not
going to go into all of this detail. He quotes, ``A stream of reporting
from a different sensitive source'' that caused the intelligence
community to advise the President, the Vice President, and others that
they believed Saddam Hussein was actively trying to pursue these
programs.
He said:
So what do I think about all of this today? Based on an
assessment of the data we collected over the past 10 years,
it would have been difficult for analysts to come to any
different conclusions than the ones we reached in October of
2002.
That is what George Tenet said. You can say he is being defensive. I
say it is important for George Tenet to speak out and to explain to the
American people how difficult it is to get intelligence, what we
thought we knew at the time, what he advised our leaders of, what we
think we know today.
He also noted the fact they have instituted efforts internally to try
to discover why they didn't know things perhaps they should have known,
how they can do it better in the future.
When you combine that with what David Kay said about the fact there
was no evidence that our leadership in any way pressured our
intelligence community to come to different conclusions, you have to
stand up to the people who gathered this intelligence and presented it
to the leaders. They maybe didn't get it all right, but they did their
best. And with respect to our leadership, there is no reason to believe
they didn't treat this information with the utmost of seriousness and
honesty; that they presented it to the American people, exactly as
George Tenet said today. They presented it in an honest way and that it
would have been irresponsible of them to have acted any differently, to
have presented it any differently given the information that had been
presented to them.
I think that had the President, knowing what he now knows and all of
this would eventually come out even though a lot of it is classified
information, if the President had not taken action and, God forbid,
something had happened, a lot of people on the Senate floor, in the
Senate, around the country, and certainly pundits would be saying: Why
did President Bush ignore these warnings? Why did he ignore what the
intelligence community came up with?
There are some people who are saying that with respect to the attack
of 9/11 when the President had virtually nothing, in fact, when we had
obviously no reason to believe that on September 11 there would be an
attack from the airliners that would be used by the al-Qaida
terrorists, and yet with virtually nothing to go on, people are saying
the President should have known and done something about it.
With all of the evidence we had about Saddam Hussein and all of the
evidence with regard to Iraq, to have ignored that would have been
absolutely irresponsible. My colleagues who are criticizing him today
for acting would then be criticizing him for not acting, I believe.
In a political season, you are darned if you do and darned if you
don't. We understand that. But I think it is important, as George Tenet
asked us to do, especially for those of us in the Senate, especially
those of us who served on the Intelligence Committee, to urge people to
approach this subject from a sober, careful, nonpoliticized point of
view because lives are at stake.
We make decisions and the executive branch and military make
decisions based upon our intelligence. We have to make sure that the
way we restructure intelligence, the funding decisions that we make,
and the other things we do are not based upon quick judgments, on
political judgments certainly, but rather are based upon a calm
analysis, a reflection based upon perspective and certainly an
understanding of the difficulties that the intelligence community
faces.
When you do all of that, I think you can come to no other conclusion
than what David Kay came to, that George Tenet said, the President, the
Vice President, Secretary Powell, before the United Nations, that there
was a problem here that could not be ignored.
It would be absolutely wrong for anybody to suggest today that we got
it all wrong and that for some reason that is President Bush's fault
and certainly not for anyone to suggest that somehow or another our
leadership misled the American people in order to go to war. That would
be the absolute height of irresponsibility. No President, Republican or
Democrat, I can think of would ever do such a thing.
I am disappointed that some--and I am not referring to anybody in
this body at this point--that some people would actually suggest that
would be the case. But when we talk about the intelligence the way it
has been discussed here today, it leads to that kind of conclusion. I
think that is unfortunate.
I urge all of my colleagues to try to discuss this in a relatively
impassioned way, a carefully constructive way so working together we
can craft the kind of policies that will provide for our security in
the future, protection of the American people, and certainly the
protection of the people we send into harm's way to protect us.
The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Smith). The Senator from North Dakota.
Mr. DORGAN. Mr. President, my colleague's admonition in using care in
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discussing this issue is admirable. Care is exactly what we ought to
use when we evaluate what has happened and not happened.
My colleague, incidentally, has just made the point that there was
intelligence that suggested that Iraq posed a threat. And that was
exactly my point. That is exactly the intelligence that was represented
to this body and to the House and to the American people. But it turns
out the intelligence, the specific intelligence, that was presented was
wrong.
My colleague also, at the start of his presentation, defied anyone to
show him a quote from Mr. Kay that said he was wrong or we were wrong.
I will do that. My colleague will likely want to then revise his
remarks. My hope is he might do that.
Here is the front cover of Newsweek this week. Mr. David Kay--and
this is in quotes--says:
We were all wrong.
I will go to the inside on page 27, again a direct quote of Mr. Kay:
It turns out we were all wrong probably in my judgment.
This is testimony before the Armed Services Committee. On a third
point, in the fourth paragraph of his prepared testimony given before
the Armed Services Committee, quoting David Kay:
Let me begin by saying we were almost all wrong.
My colleague challenged someone to come up with a quote. There are
three of them, and my hope is the record might at least stand on direct
quotes that are presented here before a committee of the Senate.
If one dare whisper these days--just whisper--about these issues, it
is perceived as a frontal assault against the President of the United
States. That is sheer, utter nonsense.
The question before this body and this country, in my judgment, is if
the top weapons inspector appointed by this President goes to Iraq and
comes back to us and says that body of intelligence that was given us,
given our country, given our Congress before we went into Iraq was all
wrong, we have an obligation to address that issue, not later, but now.
We have an obligation not to try to protect someone in the
administration or in Congress. We have an obligation to protect the
American people not later, but now.
I am not on the Intelligence Committee. I have deep admiration for
all who do serve, Republicans and Democrats. But I would hope, just as
one Member of the Senate, that the most significant energy in this body
to follow where this string leads and try to determine what is wrong,
what happened, what persuades Mr. Kay to come and say, ``It turns out
we were all wrong,'' I would expect my colleagues on the Intelligence
Committee, without respect of politics, just to follow that string to
find out what on Earth happened and how do we fix it immediately.
To suggest that somehow that we ought not worry about this, that
invading Iraq was fine because Saddam Hussein was an evil man, just
changes the subject. Sure he was an evil man. We found him in a
rathole. He was a rat in a rathole. He is a killer, a murderer. The
world is better off because he doesn't lead Iraq. That is not the
question.
The question is what trust, what confidence do we have in this
country's system of intelligence today? Our intelligence system needs
to pore over information about chatter, about satellite photos, about
raw intelligence to determine who might be planning an attack tonight
on an American city, who might be designing right now to kill
Americans. I want that intelligence community to get it right. I want
it to be the finest intelligence community in the world. I am sorry
that I say Mr. Tenet is defensive. I am sorry to have to say that I
think he got it wrong. But David Kay says it and others say it.
All of us in this Chamber depend on our intelligence community. We
spend a great deal of money on it. I want the finest we can possibly
have protecting this country. If anyone believes our intelligence
community got it all right, did just fine, then they ought to sleep
like a baby--go to sleep early and sleep late and have a great night's
sleep. But if they believe, as Mr. Kay does--and, yes, that is what he
believes. I have quoted three different occasions where he said we got
it wrong, and if someone believes, as many respected foreign policy
thinkers and intelligence thinkers do believe, that there is something
wrong, something significantly wrong that we need to address, then we
ought to join together, Republicans and Democrats, and not worry about
who might be criticized, just decide we are going to fix it. That is
our job.
It is not our job to protect the Senate, to protect the President. It
is our job to protect this country. I worry a great deal about what is
going on. My colleague went far afield and made a defense of the Iraq
resolution. Well, a good many of us in the Senate and in the Congress
voted for that resolution. Now we discover Mr. Kay suggests the
intelligence got it all wrong, the basis for that resolution got it all
wrong.
Mr. KYL. Will my colleague yield for one moment on that?
Mr. DORGAN. I would be happy to yield.
Mr. KYL. I really do appreciate that. I think what the Senator
referred to and what he read was that Mr. Kay said: We all got it
wrong. But he did not say: We got it all wrong.
Mr. DORGAN. Reclaiming my time.
Mr. KYL. Go right ahead and read that again. That is the distinction
I would make. We did get one thing wrong. We cannot find the weapons.
Mr. DORGAN. With due respect, and I have great affection for my
colleague from Arizona, he has it wrong. Let me read from the fourth
paragraph of Mr. Kay's testimony given to the Senate Armed Services
Committee: ``Let me begin by saying we were almost all wrong.''
Now, this is not about parsing words. It is Mr. Kay saying: Look, the
intelligence was wrong.
I say to my colleague from Arizona, my point is not about the
President, it is not about the Vice President, it is not about
Condoleezza Rice or Secretary Powell or Mr. Tenet. It is about whether
this country is well served by the current intelligence community. Do
they have it right or not? If they got it wrong, as many suggest they
have, and it is pretty hard to make the case they got it right, then
what do we do about it?
Mr. BOND. Mr. President, will my colleague yield for two quick
questions?
Mr. DORGAN. I would be happy to yield for one question and then
another.
Mr. BOND. Well, the most important question and I know this is a very
important debate--the Senator from Maine was hoping to speak on the
bill and I wondered how much longer the Senator from North Dakota was
going to speak.
Mr. DORGAN. Well, I do not have a gauge on the tank. In fact, I
barely came to the Senate expecting to speak for 5 minutes and then the
Senator from Arizona piqued my interest and I decided I had to go find
some quotes and respond to his presentation. I know the Senator from
Maine has been here awhile, and I will not be much longer.
Mr. BOND. If the Senator will yield for one additional question.
Mr. DORGAN. I would be happy to yield.
Mr. BOND. Does the Senator realize all the rest of the Intelligence
Committee is in S-407 receiving a 300-page report compiled over 8
months by the entire staff of the Intelligence Committee, after over a
couple of hundred interviews and reviewing tens of thousands of
documents, which goes right to this question and which we in the
committee will be working on and trying to present either in classified
or we hope mostly unclassified material so we can carry on this debate?
Is the Senator aware that the reason there are not members of the
Intelligence Committee here is that they are getting that information
right now? Is the Senator aware of that?
Mr. DORGAN. Mr. President, I am aware of that. I might say I have
high hopes that that study, which has been underway for some long
while, will be helpful to us. I must say also that there is a portion
of the study that is a black hole. The study that is going on up there
and will be released deals only with the gathering of intelligence,
which I think shortchanges this Senate and the American people, because
it does not deal with the use of that intelligence. But we can deal
with the issue of the use of intelligence at another time. I wish it
had been done in the same report.
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Again, this issue of intelligence is critical to this country's
protection and security interests. I believe that is something on which
we would agree. We share that understanding, and my hope is that up in
407--the Senator from Missouri refers to a room in the Capitol Building
that is a room where the Intelligence Committee meets. It is a room
where top secret briefings are given. One of the things that persuaded
me to come to the floor this afternoon is I have sat in that room. I
have sat in that room with a neon sign that says ``top secret'' up on
top flashing, and I have had the very people who developed this
intelligence assessment look me in the eye and give me information that
I now know to be wrong. That bothers me a lot.
I do not know how that happened. I do not know whether it was just
bad collection of data, bad interpretation of data, or misuse of data.
I do not have the foggiest idea, but I am saying this, that as one
Senator I have been sitting in that room, I have asked direct
questions, and I have had people look me in the eye and give me an
answer that I now know to be wrong. I think most Senators who have had
that experience are concerned about it.
I say to the Senator from Missouri, because I do not know whether he
heard me say it, I have great admiration for those who serve on the
Intelligence Committee. I do not serve there. I do not profess to be an
expert in intelligence or foreign policy, but all of us have an
obligation to be as informed as possible about all of these issues.
I expect the most aggressive Members of this Senate, following the
trail of where this leads, to be those who serve on the Intelligence
Committee. If Mr. Kay truly believes we got it all wrong, quote,
unquote, then I would expect the Intelligence Committee to lead the way
in finding out why that happened and how we get to a point where we
never have that assessment again when it comes to this country's vital
national interests.
Again, my colleague from Maine has been patient and I would not have
spoken at this length except that I was intrigued and interested by my
colleague from Arizona.
So I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Missouri.
Mr. BOND. Mr. President, I will take less than 1 minute, because I do
not want to excite my friend any further, to say that all of us on the
Intelligence Committee not only share the commitment to getting to the
bottom of what went on, but we also know that David Kay said it was
absolutely right and prudent to go into Iraq because it was more
dangerous than we knew in certain areas. I hope the report we issue
will answer questions that I and the other members of the Intelligence
Committee have raised and that all Members of this body ought to be
raising, and that we will provide some recommendations for curing the
problems we find.
I hope now we can turn back to the SAFETEA bill, S. 1072, which is
very important. I appreciate the patience of the Senator from Maine.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Maine.
Ms. COLLINS. Mr. President, as the Senate begins consideration of the
transportation legislation, let me first commend the distinguished
managers of this bill, Senator Inhofe, Senator Bond, Senator Jeffords,
and Senator Reid for their efforts to bring this vital 6-year
reauthorization bill to the Senate floor. I particularly wish to
recognize the efforts of Senator Bond. He has been a tireless champion
of improving the transportation infrastructure in this country. He has
worked night and day to craft a well-balanced bill. I hope we can move
forward in considering this bill without undue delay.
This legislation would be very beneficial for the people of Maine and
for our national economy. Nationwide, our transportation system is the
lifeblood of economic development, the catalyst for the creation of
thousands of jobs. Our transportation system affects our
competitiveness, both within the United States and competing
internationally.
For our economy to prosper, we need an integrated modern
transportation system that realizes our goal of cost-effective and
efficient modes of transportation while also recognizing the need for
continued progress in improving the quality of our air. That is why I
have not only supported funding for our highways and our bridges, but
also I have advocated increased Federal funding for mass transit, for
passenger rail initiatives, and alternative means of transportation as
well.
In a large rural State such as Maine, an effective transportation
network is absolutely essential. Maine has 1.3 million people spread
out across roughly 34,000 square miles. Our State has by far the lowest
population density in all of New England. Consequently, continuing to
upgrade and improve our roads, highways, and bridges is essential to
Maine's future prosperity. It is also a vital part of the economic
strategies in our State that are aimed at increasing job opportunities
for all of our citizens.
It is my hope that the Federal funding that is included in this
legislation will support a strong partnership with the States that will
allow us to build, repair, and maintain our surface transportation
system into the 21st century.
The bill would also allow us to pursue some high priority
transportation projects over the next 6 years. For example, as a native
of Aroostook County in northern Maine, I understand how important it is
to construct a north-south highway, a modern limited access highway
through Aroostook County. This project has been in the works for more
than 20 years. The interstate, when it was first constructed, for some
reason stopped at Houlton, ME, rather than going through Aroostook
County to the Canadian border. For that reason there have been economic
development projects underway for some time, calling on us to construct
a north-south highway to the Canadian border.
This project has been funded through the preconstruction stages and
is currently undergoing the necessary review to complete the required
environmental impact statement.
Northern Maine desperately needs the transportation and safety
improvements such a highway would bring. For this reason I have made it
my top transportation priority since being elected to the Senate in
1996. I hope the higher funding levels authorized by this legislation
will enable the State of Maine to continue moving this vitally
important project forward to the construction phase.
Just as I believe that the Aroostook highway project is critical for
the transportation system and the economy of northern Maine, I also
believe that an east-west highway, potentially running from the
maritime provinces in Canada through eastern, central, and western
Maine, to Quebec and northern New York State would significantly boost
economic growth, job creation, and development throughout the entire
region. This is an important transportation project, not only for that
region of Maine but also for our Canadian neighbors.
Maine, like many other States in the Northeast, is facing an aging
transportation infrastructure. It requires maintenance, rehabilitation,
and in some cases outright replacement. The most urgent example of this
problem is the Waldo-Hancock Bridge, a major suspension bridge that
carries U.S. Route 1 over the Penobscot River, south of Bangor, and
acts as a gateway to downeast Maine, one of the State's most widely
visited regions.
The nearest alternative for crossing the Penobscot River is some 20
miles away in Bangor, and any interruption in the service would thus
require a detour of at least 40 miles.
Unfortunately, due to safety concerns, last summer the State
Department of Transportation had to lower the weight limits for
vehicles using this bridge. The condition of the bridge has been
declining steadily for a number of years, and despite efforts by the
State to rehabilitate the existing structure, it has now become evident
that the bridge must be replaced as soon as possible.
While providing States with adequate funding to move forward with
high priority projects such as the east-west highway, the Hancock-Waldo
bridge, and the Aroostook highway, as well as the funding of other more
routine highway and transit projects as a major focus of this
legislation, I also see this bill as an opportunity to address some
important transportation safety issues.
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The most pressing transportation safety issue in my State has to do
with Federal truck weight limits.
Under current law, trucks weighing as much as 100,000 pounds are
allowed to travel on Interstate 95 from the border of Maine with New
Hampshire, to Augusta, our capital city. At that point, right before
Augusta, trucks weighing more than 80,000 pounds are forced off
Interstate 95, which proceeds north to Houlton. Heavy trucks are forced
onto smaller, secondary roads that pass through our cities, our towns,
and our villages.
Augusta is an example of the problems this creates. When the trucks
leave the interstate, they frequently travel down Western Avenue to
encounter two heavily traveled traffic circles. These traffic circles
have some of the highest accident rates in our State, and having these
large, heavy trucks travel through the congestion of Western Avenue,
around these two traffic circles and then continue on secondary roads
poses a serious safety threat.
A uniform truck weight of 100,000 pounds on all of Interstate 95 in
Maine would reduce highway miles and travel times necessary to
economically and efficiently transport freight throughout Maine that
would result in both economic and environmental benefits.
Moreover, Maine's extensive network of State and local roads would be
better preserved without the wear and tear of heavy truck traffic. But
most importantly, as I indicated with my example of the traffic circles
in Augusta, ME, a uniform truck weight limit on the interstate would
keep trucks on the interstate, which is designed to handle heavy
trucks. That is where they belong rather than on the roads and highways
that pass through Maine's cities, towns, and neighborhoods.
Maine's citizens and motorists are needlessly at risk because too
many heavy trucks are diverted from the interstate and onto local
roads.
Senator Snowe and I have an initiative to deal with this issue. We
hope to work closely with the managers of the bill to address this very
important traffic safety issue.
With 3,400 miles of coastline and 14 inhabited islands, there is
another very important feature of transportation that affects my
constituents. The Federal Highway Administration's Ferry Boat
Discretionary Program is vitally important to the Maine State Ferry
Service and the Casco Bay Island's Transit District, which provide
critical transportation services to Maine's island communities. I have
joined with my colleague, Senator Murray, and a bipartisan group of
Senators in sponsoring the Ferry Transportation Enhancement Act, which
would significantly increase funding that is available for ferry
projects. We hope to pursue this proposal as the debate on this
important legislation continues.
While this highway reauthorization legislation includes funding for
traditional transportation programs, I am also pleased that it includes
increased funding for both transportation enhancements and the
Recreational Trails Program. Both have allowed States to greatly expand
their bicycle path systems.
In Maine, for example, 94 bicycle paths and pedestrian walkways have
been built with funding from these special programs.
I also believe that it is in our national interest to pursue and
strengthen passenger rail services in the United States and to help
maintain the solvency of Amtrak, even as we put reforms in place.
Currently, there is no long-term stable funding source for passenger
rail in the United States. Since 1971, when Amtrak was created, $25
billion has been spent on passenger rail. This contrasts sharply with
the $750 billion that has been invested in our highways and aviation.
As the Senate moves forward in considering a wide range of
transportation issues and funding questions in this vital bill, I look
forward to working with all of my colleagues to make sure we pursue the
goal of ensuring that our roads, our highways, and bridges are able to
meet the needs of our citizens and commerce as we move forward in the
21st century.
Thank you, Mr. President. I yield the floor.
Mr. DODD. Mr. President. I rise in support of the transit amendment
to the highway funding bill.
As a member of the Banking Committee, I commend Chairman Shelby,
Senator Sarbanes, and their staffs for their hard work and their
willingness to reach consensus on this important measure.
I also commend members of the Finance Committee for also discharging
their duty to fully finance the transit spending authorized in the
budget. Our Democratic leader, who also sits as a member of that
committee, was particularly helpful in that regard.
The legislation passed yesterday by the Banking Committee was no easy
achievement. The members of the Banking Committee have different
transit needs for their States. There are some Senators on the Banking
Committee from mostly rural States, others from States with largely
urban centers, and others whose States have a combination of both.
The transit title, which was unanimously approved yesterday in the
Banking Committee, goes a long way toward balancing these needs.
Although this legislation is not perfect, it does come close to
achieving a national transit policy, which is a goal I believe was not
achieved in the highway funding portion of the bill.
The transit bill has a number of important provisions:
It provides $56.5 billion for mass transit over the next six years.
This amount is a significant investment for the future. I am hopeful
that more progress can be made to increase assistance for those regions
that rely heavily on mass transit but whose aging infrastructure needs
repair and modernization.
If anybody were to deny that a problem exists in this regard, I would
urge them to read an article which appeared in yesterday's Stamford
Advocate entitled ``Metro-North Struggles To Keep Cars in Service.'' It
describes how a combination of cold weather and aging railcars has
knocked one-third of the aging New Haven Line out of service for
several weeks.
In fact, about 37 percent of the New Haven Line is out of service for
maintenance. The Metro-North Line has lost 230 out of its 800-car fleet
for repairs. Thousands of commuters in Connecticut rely on this service
to get to and from work, travel to and from school, and to see their
families.
The legislation devotes significant resources to the Job Access as
well as the Elderly and Disabled transit programs, which have been
successful in providing transportation services to many of the most
vulnerable members of society. Such transportation services enable low-
income individuals, as well as senior citizens and the disabled, to
have access to jobs, education, and training, which ultimately fosters
self-sufficiency and improves their quality of life.
The transit title also includes funds to small communities with
significant transit infrastructure that currently do not qualify under
existing formula programs. Many cities in Connecticut and throughout
the region could benefit from this program.
Finally, I am pleased that the transit amendment includes language I
authorized to promote the establishment of medical access programs.
Many Americans lack transportation services to take them to the
hospital to see a doctor, get medication, or undergo dialysis.
Often their only choice is to call an ambulance, even if it is not
truly a medical emergency, because such services are reimbursed under
Medicare. By encouraging community transit systems to establish medical
access programs, we can reduce costs to Medicare while serving as a
lifeline to those Americans in need of health care.
I am hopeful that more progress can be made to increase our
investments in mass transit. I am grateful to Chairman Shelby and
Senator Sarbanes for listening to other Senator's concerns throughout
this process, and I look forward to working with them as this
legislation moves forward.
I as unanimous consent to print the article to which I referred in
the Record.
There being no objection, the material was ordered to be printed in
the Record, as follows:
[From the Stamford Advocate, Feb. 4, 2004.]
Metro-North Struggles To Keep Cars in Service
(By Katherine Didriksen)
Metro-North Railroad is bracing for another bout of wintry
weather today while it
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struggles to fix widespread equipment problems caused by
recent bitter cold and drifting snow.
The railroad has been unable to run a regular schedule
during peak morning and evening hours for several weeks as
more than one-third of its aging New Haven Line fleet has
been knocked out of service.
``(The railcars) are just dying faster than we can fix
them,'' Metro-North spokeswoman Marjorie Anders said. ``It's
cumulative.''
Heavy electrical components, including traction motors and
motor alternators, are particularly hard-hit by extreme cold
and dusty snow, she said.
Trains have had decent on-time performance despite the car
shortages, but customers will face standing-room-only
conditions all week, Anders said.
Metro-North has lost 230 railcars out of its 800-car fleet
to repairs. The railroad reached a high of 217 disabled
railcars on Jan. 21. On the New Haven Line, 126 of 342
railcars, or about 37 percent, are out of service for
maintenance.
On an average day, 50 to 60 cars are out of service for
maintenance, Federal Railroad Administration-mandated
inspections or major repairs, said Harry Harris, chief of the
Connecticut Department of Transportation's bureau of public
transportation.
``You never run 100 percent of your fleet. You can expect
to have about 18 percent out for one reason or another,'' he
said. ``When you start reaching 80, 90, 100 cars, you are
cutting in substantially to the fleet.''
Today's forecasted wintry mix offers the railroad little
time for repairs and presents other challenges. Cold and
freezing rain causes problems with equipment on the ground,
including track switches, Anders said.
Trains on the New Haven Line will continue to run under a
speed restriction overnight to reduce stress on the overhead
catenary wires that become brittle and taut in the cold, she
said.
``It's getting pretty bleak,'' said Jim Cameron, vice
chairman of the Metro-North-Shoreline East Rail Commuter
Council. ``They absolutely are desperate for capacity now.''
Commuters are getting increasingly angry and upset, he
said.
``My frustration is that they still don't understand the
enormity of the situation or who's at fault,'' Cameron said.
``Commuters don't like being kept in the dark, and they don't
like being lied to.''
The lack of communication lies on Hartford's shoulders,
rather than on the railroad or the state DOT, he said.
Extreme weather is exacerbated by the state's aging
equipment. The bulk of the New Haven Line fleet was
commissioned in 1973--an average train lifespan is about 20
years--and the catenary wire system was built in the early
1900s.
``It's a real challenge to keep all this equipment going,''
Harris said. Repairs are complicated by a lack of maintenance
space and replacement parts, he said.
Connecticut also hosts the only commuter railroad service
that runs a dual-powered system of third-rail and overhead
catenary wires, Harris said. A new car that fits the dual-
powered system has a price tag of $4.5 million, he said.
``There is no quick solution, barring some kind of an
economic miracle,'' Harris said. Commuters are not likely to
see funds for new railcars until 2006, he said.
In the meantime, Metro-North and the state DOT are merely
looking to survive the winter.
``The worst-case scenario is no service,'' Anders said.
``We're not even close to that.''
The railroad alerted passengers to the following timetable
alterations through Monday: In the morning rush hour, the
6:42 a.m. train from New Haven, due in Stamford at 7:30 a.m.
and arriving at Grand Central at 8:18 a.m.; and the 7:37 a.m.
train out of Port Chester, N.Y., due in Grand Central at 8:20
a.m., are canceled.
During the evening rush hour, many trains departing Grand
Central will be combined or canceled:
The 4:11 p.m. train from Grand Central to South Norwalk and
the 4:16 p.m. train to New Haven are combined, departing at
4:16 p.m.
The 4:49 p.m. train from Grand Central to New Haven will
terminate at Stamford. Customers for stations east of
Stamford must take the 5:01 p.m. train. Darien passengers
must take the 5:04 p.m. train to Danbury.
The 5:09 p.m. train from Stamford to New Canaan and the
5:26 p.m. train to New Canaan are combined, departing at 5:26
p.m.
The 5:23 p.m. train from Grand Central to Bridgeport and
the 5:28 p.m. train to South Norwalk are combined, departing
at 5:28 p.m.
The 5:44 p.m. train from Grand Central to Bridgeport and
the 5:49 p.m. train to South Norwalk are combined, departing
at 5:49 p.m.
The 6:37 p.m. train from Grand Central to Harrison, N.Y.,
and the 6:40 p.m. train to Stamford are combined, departing
at 6:40 p.m.
The 7:07 p.m. train from Grand Central to Harrison and the
7:10 p.m. train to Stamford are combined, departing at 7:10
p.m.
For additional information, customers can consult
www.mta.info.
Ms. MURKOWSKI. Mr. President, I appreciate the opportunity to say a
few words about the highway bill. This legislation is of immense
importance not only to my State of Alaska, but to the Nation as a
whole. It is unlikely that this Congress will do anything of greater
importance for our economy.
We all know that if our economy is our strength, transportation is
our circulatory system. Without it, we cannot function. And make no
mistake, we are not keeping up with the task.
Thirty-two percent of our major roads are in poor condition. Twenty-
nine percent of our bridges need replacement or repair. Urban rail and
bus systems are in equally poor shape.
According to the Department of Transportation, we should be spending
over $100 billion per year on highways and over $20 billion per year on
transit. But we cannot do that. We are constrained by reality. The
components of the Senate bill will approximate only half that amount.
That is deeply disappointing to the Nation's 12,500 road construction
contractors, and it is deeply disappointing to all our States and to
their municipal governments, and to all our constituents.
We do not live in a perfect world. And given that reality, our job is
to pass the best bill we can possibly pass.
It was no easy task to develop the bill before us today. We owe a
tremendous debt of gratitude to the leaders of the Environment and
Public Works Committee for their efforts, and to the leaders of the
other committees necessary to make this bill a reality. No one could
have worked harder and longer than Senator Inhofe, Senator Jeffords,
Senator Bond and Senator Reid.
Is this a perfect bill? No, indeed. There are many things I would
like to see changed. For example, I strongly agree with the comments
made by Senator Voinovich about the need for additional streamlining so
that projects can get off the ground faster.
For my own State, I would like to see greater flexibility in a number
of areas. I would also like to see greater recognition given to the
fact that my State is far behind all the others in road miles, and that
lack is holding back not only our economy but limiting our ability to
contribute to the Nation as a whole. This bill does not address that
fact to satisfaction.
By the same token, I understand that many of the donor States want to
see more of their highway fuel tax dollars returned to them, and
returned faster. I cannot blame them. At the same time, I want to
remind my colleagues of this very important fact: This bill is not
about my roads or your roads. This bill is about our roads.
We are all in this together. Let's not forget that fact.
The bill before us will increase every State's minimum guarantee to
the 95 percent level they have long sought. And it will ensure that
every State will see a significant increase in real dollars, an average
increase of over 35 percent.
We cannot afford not to move forward.
In the last decade, travel on the Nation's highways increased almost
30 percent. By 2020, projections indicate travel will increase by
another 50 percent. Those number don't just indicate a need; they
demand a response. They demand that we move forward on this bill.
I yield the floor.
Mr. INHOFE. Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll.
The assistant legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
Mr. SHELBY. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for
the quorum call be rescinded.
The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Cornyn). Without objection, it is so
ordered.
Mr. SHELBY. Mr. President, what is the pending business?
The PRESIDING OFFICER. S. 1072 is the pending business.
Amendment No. 2269 Withdrawn
Mr. SHELBY. Mr. President, I think I have an amendment pending.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Amendment No. 2269 is pending.
Mr. SHELBY. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that I be allowed
to withdraw the amendment.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. SHELBY. Thank you.
I suggest the absence of a quorum.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll.
The assistant legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
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Mr. VOINOVICH. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order
for the quorum call be rescinded.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. VOINOVICH. Mr. President, I understand that if I ask that the
amendments be set aside so I can send an amendment to the desk and ask
for its immediate consideration, there is an objection to that; is that
correct?
The PRESIDING OFFICER. There has not yet been an objection.
Mr. VOINOVICH. I did not hear the Chair.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. There is not yet an objection.
Mr. INHOFE. If the Senator will yield, it is my understanding that
there will be an objection.
Mr. VOINOVICH. Mr. President, it is unfortunate that we have an
objection to further amendments so that we can't set aside some of
those that have been here and we are not making the kind of progress I
think we should be making on this bill and that some in this body will
not allow us to make progress and consider a germane amendment that has
broad support. What I am going to do is file the amendment and
hopefully get to it in due course.
Two days ago, I came to the floor to express my support for this
bill. I praised the managers for their work in putting this compromise
together. I said that the bipartisan spirit of this bill led me to
believe we could actually get something accomplished, which is contrary
to the predictions of many people for this session of Congress. I even
borrowed from one of my models when I was Governor: Together we can do
it. And together we can. We can get this bill passed if we have enough
folks who are willing to compromise and understand there is an enormous
need to deal with the infrastructure problems and challenges of our
country and also understand the need for the jobs this bill will create
in our respective States.
Today and yesterday we have seen, however, that some do not want to
work in a bipartisan manner and pass this bill which will put hard-
working Americans back to work and jump-start our sluggish economy,
particularly in States such as Ohio. This is the case even though 75
Members voted to invoke cloture and proceed to the bill. Sadly, until
this logjam is broken, we can't even make progress on issues of broad
agreement.
Regardless of these difficulties, I am pleased to announce that this
amendment represents an agreement reached by the transportation
community and the historic preservation community. I greatly appreciate
the work of the many groups that worked on this amendment, including
the National Trust for Historic Preservation, Preservation Action, the
American Association of State Highway and Transportation Officials. I
commend the Ohio Department of Transportation, especially Gordon
Proctor, Tim Hill, and Michelle Holdgreve, for their tireless effort.
They have worked very hard with us on this amendment. The hard work by
all these interested groups have led to this carefully crafted
compromise amendment that I believe will go a long way in expediting
the time and decreasing the cost of transportation construction
projects.
This amendment addresses section 4(f). Section 4(f) of the Department
of Transportation Act of 1966 prohibits the Department of
Transportation from approving any highway project that uses publicly
owned land or a historic site of national, State, or local
significance, unless, one, there is no prudent and feasible alternative
that avoids such resources or causes less harm to them, and, two, the
project includes all possible planning to minimize harm to those
resources.
If publicly owned land or a historic site is chosen for use in the
project, an evaluation must demonstrate that the use of other
alternatives would have resulted in unique problems. ``Unique
problems'' are present when there are truly unusual factors, or when
the costs to the community's disruption reach ``extraordinary
magnitude.'' This test was introduced in Citizens to Preserve Overton
Park v. Volpe, referred to as the ``Overton Park criteria.''
Section 4(f) was developed in the late 1960s to address a real
problem. Construction of the Interstate Highway System was at its peak,
and these projects took the path of least resistance, which, in many
cases, was parkland because it was easy to acquire and cheap to build
through.
The passage of section 4(f) was intended to protect parks and
historic sites that could be adversely impacted by construction of the
Interstate System. We all understand that. That makes sense.
Today, however, highway projects are more likely to involve
maintenance and modernization of the current system. The problem is
that section 4(f), which basically prohibits all use of protected
resources, is difficult to apply to projects that would have some, but
not significant, impact on a protected resource. Yet this law has never
been amended since its creation almost 40 years ago. We need to address
our attention to that.
When highway projects have resulted in litigation, section 4(f) has
been a frequent cause. Moreover, inconsistent interpretation of the
Overton criteria has been identified as one need for changes in section
4(f) to allow for a more balanced interpretation of its requirements.
One of the reasons for this litigation is the subjective terms used in
the law: ``prudent and feasible,'' ``all possible planning to minimize
harm,'' ``unique problems,'' and ``extraordinary magnitude.''
I will tell you, these provisions are a lawyer's dream and a
nightmare for the courts that have to interpret it and the States and
U.S. Department of Transportation, which has to enforce the law. The
result has been needless confusion, significant delays, and high cost
for issues that defy common sense. What we are talking about here is
common sense.
In my State of Ohio, for example, a privately owned barn was
considered eligible for the National Register of Historic Places. It
was in the path of a needed road improvement. Let me clarify that the
barn was eligible because it was more than 50 years old. Soon, we won't
be able to do any improvements because sidewalks will be 50 years old
in this country. After considerable delay, needless studies, and
significantly increased costs, a decision was made to avoid the barn.
The road improvement was rerouted and the barn protected. This is the
barn in this photo that we were protecting because it was over 50 years
old. Look at that.
The cost to reroute this was $100,000 and 4 months of delay. Anybody
who knows about highway projects knows that for every day of delay, it
costs money. Time is money. However, the barn fell down due to owner
neglect a few years later.
The point is that, while transportation planners have to do all they
can to protect something that is ``eligible'' for the register, the
private owner of the place, or even another Federal agency, can destroy
it without sanction. That just doesn't make any sense.
Section 4(f) was enacted in 1966, 37 years ago. It only applies to
the U.S. Department of Transportation, not any other Federal agencies.
It is an extremely stringent law that has been interpreted by the
courts, as they say, in vastly different ways.
While it was created with good intentions and at a time when the law
was arguably needed, U.S. DOT and State departments of transportation
have become good stewards of the environment.
One of the things that happens in Washington is we give no credit at
all to State organizations or local organizations, in terms of their
concern about the environment. So often, we think we are the only ones
who really care about the environment.
Section 4(f) requirements have been identified by State departments
of transportation as a significant deterrent to timely environmental
reviews of transportation projects. The requirements to avoid section
4(f) resources applies in all cases, even when the impact is minor,
resulting in situations in which a minor historic property is protected
at the expense of other more sensitive environmental resources or
communities.
In April of 2003, the General Accounting Office reported the
transportation stakeholders consider section 4(f) reviews as burdensome
and inflexible and that alternative approaches could protect historic
properties and take less time to reach resolution.
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In that report, a large majority of the stakeholders indicated that
historic property protections under section 106 of the National
Historic Preservation Act of 1966 offered a more flexible mediation
process. This law requires that Federal agencies consider the effect of
properties either in or eligible to be in the National Register of
Historic Places. It brings all parties into the discussion and allows
for better outcomes that preserve the goals of the transportation
project, while protecting historic properties. This concept is included
in this compromise amendment.
We are using something with which people are familiar. It worked in
other places and it can work in terms of highway construction.
Currently, section 4(f) does not provide exceptions for impacts with
no adverse affect or even a beneficial effect. For example, in Ohio, a
new highway project adjacent to a publicly owned golf course was being
constructed, and the golf course asked if work could be performed to
alleviate persistent flooding. However, the work would have required a
section 4(f) study. As a result, the work wasn't performed and the golf
course still floods to this day just because of this 4(f).
In more extreme cases, projects with very minor impacts on protected
sites have had to be realigned at high social, environmental, and
economic costs. The peculiarities of the law led to well-documented,
unintended consequences.
The confusion over existing law and problems with delays has led to
several attempts at remedies. AASHTO, the organization that represents
all 50 State transportation departments, voted unanimously to reform
section 4(f).
Section 4(f) is also one of the highest priorities of our own U.S.
Department of Transportation, which proposed changes to section 4(f) in
its surface transportation reauthorization proposal, SAFETEA, which is
what we worked off when this bill was being put together.
This amendment remedies many of the problems with section 4(f). While
many groups would have preferred greater reform, the final text is a
compromise that satisfies major stakeholders in this debate. Again,
this was a compromise between a lot of groups, including
transportation, environmental, and historic preservation groups.
Specifically, the amendment states that section 4(f) requirements are
satisfied if the Secretary makes a finding of de minimis impact to a
protected site. For historic sites, such a finding occurs if the
project has no adverse effect on a historic site and there is written
concurrence from the State or tribal historic preservation officer.
So we go through this process, and it is looked at as de minimis and
has to be signed off by the people who care.
For parks, recreation areas, and wildlife and waterfowl refuges, such
a finding only occurs if the project will not adversely affect the
activities, features, or attributes of the resource, and there is
written concurrence from the officials with jurisdiction over the
resource. The amendment also requires public notice--the public knows
all about this; there is nothing under the table--and public comment on
the process. So we vet this decision so everybody knows what is going
on.
What is good about this amendment is it allows for better community
outcomes. This amendment would require the Secretary, when making a
finding of de minimis impact, to consider all ``avoidance,
minimization, mitigation, and enhancement measures'' that have been
incorporated into the project. The language serves an important
function: It builds in an incentive for projects' sponsors to
incorporate environmentally protective measures into a project from the
beginning, in order to support a finding of de minimis
impact. Otherwise, the resource would be avoided and the project would
move forward without providing any of the associated benefits to the
community.
In addition, the amendment requires the Secretary to promulgate new
regulations to determine standards to define whether avoiding a
protected resource is prudent and feasible.
The purpose of this amendment is to achieve greater clarity and
consistency with regard to the application of the Overton Park standard
in a variety of circumstances. Let me provide some examples of problems
with the section 4(f). I have already done one. Let's look at others.
In Pennsylvania, the State department of transportation had to make a
highway improvement. This project required that one of two farms near
each other be sacrificed. One of them was an inactive farm eligible for
the registry that was barely maintained and its owner lived out of
State. The second was a working farm owned by a man and his two sons
who were actively working the land.
The owner of the second farm intended to pass the land down to the
family to continue the farming operation. Section 4(f) forced the State
department of transportation to demolish the nonhistoric farm, even
though it was actively being farmed and planned to be part of the
family's livelihood for years to come. In the end, the historic farm
was bought and developed.
This is ridiculous. Section 4(f) led to the destruction of both
farms. It forced the officials to go against a hard-working family for
a rundown farm that happened to be 50 years old. And then this law
couldn't even protect it from being developed.
This amendment would at least have allowed the State preservation
officer to make a balanced decision considering all of the information
and alternatives.
Another good example comes from our neighboring State of Kentucky. A
farmhouse and a farm was deemed historic. As a result of the project
development process, the best alignment for a four-lane highway was
found to be through the property and would separate the historic house
from the rest of the farmstead. However, through coordination with
historic preservation groups, the highway was realigned so that it
would cross in front of the house, impacting only a small strip of land
at the front edge of the property.
Everyone involved thought it was great. Then came section 4(f).
Section 4(f) required total avoidance of this historic farmhouse. The
result was less desirable, more costly, and required the acquisition
and removal of a home that was not historic.
In the end, the family whose home was to be relocated bought the
historic house from the contractor, tore down the old house, and
relocated their modern house where the historic house had stood.
Let's think about this. This is a picture of the historic house. What
happened was, they wanted to take a little piece of this property, but
oh, no, under section 4(f), you can't do that. Oh, no. So they went
across the street to a house more modern and said: We are going to take
your property. These people had to relocate their house. They relocated
their house. Do you know where they relocated it? They tore the old
house down and relocated the modern house to where the old house was
located.
That is the kind of result we get from section 4(f). It
is understandable that this needs to be changed.
This is a compromise amendment that has broad support and will
correct a problem that has plagued State and local officials for nearly
40 years. It is time for this inflexible and outdated law to be fixed.
I congratulate all involved on this work. Again, historic
preservation groups came together and said: This is crazy; let's see if
we can work something out. And they did it.
I think it is unfortunate this amendment will not be considered
today. As I said, it has broad support.
I wish to say one other thing about the highway bill. There is no
question that there is an overwhelming need for this legislation. In
fact, if you look at the needs that have been projected by the
Department of Transportation, the amount of money we are spending
doesn't meet the need, but it is a reasonable compromise to start to
address forthrightly some of the problems I have in Ohio, you may have
in Texas, Mr. President, or the chief sponsor may have in Oklahoma, and
around this country.
It also provides needed jobs for people in our respective States. To
my knowledge, this is going to be the only jobs bill to come out of
this Congress at this time. Those jobs are needed.
I was talking with some of my colleagues the other day and they said:
It is not needed and there are no projects out there ready to go. I
would like to say that in my State we have $164 million of work that,
if the money were
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there, could start tomorrow. It could start tomorrow.
The economy in my State is not doing too well. We are getting killed
because of manufacturing. We need this bill. There was a great
conservative President of the United States named Ronald Reagan. He is
on the altar and worshipped by conservatives all across America. He was
a real conservative, a real fiscal conservative. In 1983, unemployment
was up. I remember because I was mayor of the city of Cleveland. People
needed work. Ronald Reagan, in his wisdom, saw a need out in the
country. He went to Congress and asked for the emergency jobs bill.
That bill extended unemployment benefits. That bill provided moneys to
cities and counties.
When I was mayor, we were really hurting. It provided us $12 million
for public works so I could put people to work. It provided $6 million
to Cuyahoga County. That was Ronald Reagan, a fiscal conservative, a
man of compassion. He reached out, saw these people on the unemployment
line, saw that jobs were needed. He also understood that we had some
real infrastructure needs in this country, and on April 1 of 1983,
Ronald Reagan said: I don't want to borrow the money; I don't want to
borrow the money to provide more money for highways, and suggested and
got the Congress to agree to increase the gas tax by 5 cents.
It seems to me that some of my colleagues--and I consider myself a
conservative--ought to look at the reality of all of this. I suggest to
our administration, our President, who is compassionate, and his
advisers, that they ought to also look at the needs we have.
I went along with a grant to Iraq because I wanted to rebuild their
infrastructure, and we are borrowing that money. We are borrowing a lot
of money for a lot of purposes. I think Senator Grassley and the
Finance Committee have tried to come up with some reasonable ways of
paying for this bill and some offsets. Some people may nitpick it, but
the fact is, they did genuinely try to do something about it.
Everyone who is concerned about it ought to look at this
realistically. This is a very modest, responsible proposal that deals
with great infrastructure needs in this country.
I come from a just-in-time State, and our roads and bridges are in
bad shape. I come from a State where we have thousands of people who
lose their lives because our roads are not what we want them to be--
route 24, particularly. So we have these needs. This is not porkbarrel.
We have real needs.
On top of that, the frosting on the cake is we need the jobs. I am
hoping that the Holy Spirit will enlighten our President and his
advisers and Members on my side of the aisle and on the other side of
the aisle to do something good for America and get on with this bill,
get it passed, and get the money on the street so we can put some
people to work and get on with our infrastructure needs.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Oklahoma.
Mr. INHOFE. Mr. President, I have some remarks in conjunction with
the statement of Senator Voinovich. I will yield to the Senator from
Florida as soon as I make a couple of comments.
Mr. President, I rise to speak in favor of the amendment offered by
my colleague from Ohio, Senate Voinovich. First, I thank him for
working so hard on this very important issue. I know this issue has
been controversial, and I appreciate his dedication to working out a
compromise. Senate Voinovich's amendment adds much-needed reforms to a
provision in current law commonly referred to as section 4(f) review.
Section 4(f) was approved by Congress as part of the Department of
Transportation Act of 1966 to protect public parks, recreation areas,
wildlife and waterfowl refuges, and public and private historic sites.
It is important to protect our historic treasures and environmental
and recreational resources. Our Government has invested money in
establishing and maintaining these resources for the public's use. We
should not allow another department to turn around and diminish those
investments without good reason.
Unfortunately, court decisions have led to an interpretation of
``avoid at all costs.'' In addition to adding significant time delays
caused by extensive study of alternatives, this interpretation has led
to some really bad public policy decisions--decisions that defy common
sense.
For instance, does it make sense to spend a hundred thousand dollars
to shift an alignment in order to avoid an old, abandoned, dilapidated
barn? I don't think so, but it has happened. Should private citizens
lose parts of their front yards to road expansion so that we can save
the supposed parkland between the current road and the ditch that runs
alongside it? I don't think so, but it has happened.
Those are just a couple of examples of where section 4(f) is
obviously broken and desperately needs to be fixed. I am pleased that
Senator Voinovich has brought us such a fix.
The State of Oklahoma DOT is pleased with this language. Our folks
who actually deal with this issue on a regular basis believe this will
help them make better decisions with less delay.
I think this amendment represents good policy all the way around--
transportation officials will be able to make commonsense decisions,
particularly when it comes to projects that will have minimal impacts,
and we can all be assured that these important environmental and
cultural resources are protected.
It is my understanding that this language was developed by a wide
range of stakeholders, including Ohio DOT, AASHTO, the National Trust
for Historic Preservation, Defenders of Wildlife, Environmental Defense
and the Natural Resources Defense Council. I commend Senator Voinovich
for bringing forward this section 4(f) amendment, and I am happy to add
my support to it. I regret that we cannot consider his amendment today,
but I assure the Senator that I will work to have his amendment
adopted.
Mr. President, what my friend from Ohio is saying is what we have
been saying since Monday morning.
The Senator is exactly right. I do not know how many times I have
stood on this floor and said those of us who are conservatives
historically have to stop and look at what is Government here for.
Conservatives are generally big spenders when it comes to defense, when
it comes to infrastructure. We need to defend America and we need
infrastructure. Right now, I am sure there are some States that are not
as sensitive as the Senator from Ohio and I are because they do not
have the problems, but when we look at what this bill is doing to try
to correct the problem of, just as an example, our deteriorating
bridges, my State of Oklahoma ranks dead first in terms of the
deteriorated condition of bridges, and I chair the committee.
We are going to have to get a bill through. There has been some
recent suggestion that it be pared down a little bit. I can assure my
colleagues the figure we are talking about right now is a figure that
is not acceptable to those on the other side of the Capitol, and this
is the only way we can get one.
I thought we were making some headway. We have all of these little
procedural hurdles. We are not able to send the amendment of the
Senator to the desk, but I will tell the Senator right now I am going
to do what I can about it.
First, I do agree with the Senator's amendment and I know how hard he
has been working on it. A lot of people do not realize this section was
approved by the Congress as part of the Department of Transportation
Act of 1966. It is obvious it is not working now and we need to do
something about it. Certainly the Senator is as enthusiastic about
protecting any of our historical sites as we are, but we need to have
something that is workable.
I know there is someone else who wants to speak, but let me give the
Senator my assurance, as chairman of the committee, I will do
everything I can to make sure he gets his amendment in, which I
support. More important than his amendment, we want to get this bill
passed so we can get America back to work again.
Remember, not long ago one of the publications in the Capitol had a
``men working'' sign on it, and they put a ``not'' right in the middle:
Men not working. That is exactly what is happening right now. If we
play around
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with the reductions, with the temporary extensions and all of that, we
are not going to be able to get people back to work.
We have the infrastructure needs. We have the needs for jobs, and I
will be there beside the Senator from Ohio doing what I can to make
that a reality.
Before I yield the floor, let me ask my good friend with whom I was
privileged to share this morning's chairmanship at the National Prayer
Breakfast--one of the truly great moments of my life with my good
friend. We are trying to stay on the highway bill. We have others who
are going to be coming down. Could I inquire as to how much time the
Senator from Florida would like to have?
Mr. NELSON of Florida. Probably no more than 8 or 10 minutes.
Mr. INHOFE. I ask unanimous consent that he be given 15 minutes and
then after I be recognized as having the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
The Senator from Florida.
Mr. NELSON of Florida. Mr. President, I commend the Senator from
Oklahoma. It has been a pleasure working with him as the cochairman of
our Senate prayer breakfast, and now having the opportunity this
morning with 4,000 people assembled at the Washington Hilton to cochair
the National Prayer Breakfast with him--which really is a misnomer
because it is an international prayer breakfast. We had people from 150
nations. We had five heads of state there. Of course, we had dual
speakers this morning in the persons of former Congressman J.C. Watts
and Congressman John Lewis. They were both riveting. I appreciate his
collegiality and considerable cooperation as we entered into this
delightful once-a-year event that occurs in Washington.
I say to the Senator from Ohio, though, before he walks out the door,
that as he was talking about the transportation bill providing jobs, we
have a saying in the south: ``Amen, brother.'' We need the jobs in
Florida, too. Indeed, they are needed all over the country and that is
why I will support this bill, and that is why I did.
I congratulate the chairman and the ranking member of the committee
in how they have fashioned this bill. There are parts of this bill I
would like to see improved. For years, my State of Florida has given a
dollar in in tax and only gotten back about 80 cents. Over the years,
my senior colleague, Senator Graham of Florida, has been working on
that. Since I have been in the Senate the last 4 years, I have been
working with him to improve that. We have got that ratio up to 90.5
percent that we get back for every dollar we send.
In the bill the chairman and the ranking member have crafted, over
the 6-year period that will rise to 95 percent. Floridians will be very
grateful for that. I wish it could rise 1 percent a year over those 6
years instead of the way it is crafted, which is that it stays at a
90.5 percent return on Florida's tax dollar and then it jumps in the
sixth year to 95 percent return on the dollar, but that was part of the
give and take.
I would certainly like to improve it, but I am grateful for it,
because finally this battle Florida has had for ages in getting a
return on its tax dollar, particularly a gas tax dollar it sends to the
Federal Government, is going to get some equalization, particularly
with other States that have in the past gotten in excess of a dollar's
worth when they send in a dollar to the Federal gas tax trust fund. I
have lots of good things to say about it, but, oh, does it make it
tough in this environment in which we are, a highly charged partisan
environment in an election year in which the deficit that was just
announced 3 days ago is over a half a trillion dollars.
Now, deficit is a fancy word, but let me say to my colleagues simply
what I think it means. It means if we are spending this much in this
coming fiscal year, but we only have this much coming in in tax
revenues, the difference, since we are spending more than we have
coming in in revenue, is the deficit. That has been estimated, in the
President's budget, at $525 billion. That is over a half trillion
dollars.
Well, what does one do? Where does it come from? If spending is going
to be here, but the tax revenues are only here in a given year, what is
to be done? The difference is borrowed, and that difference then, when
borrowed, is added to the national debt.
We can see if we are borrowing to the extent of over half a trillion
dollars a year, it does not take too long to see the national debt just
continue to go out of sight, and then on that debt we have to pay
interest. When the interest rates go up after this year, then that is
another big slug out of the Federal budget we will have to pay,
interest on the national debt.
Goodness gracious. And think what we could be doing with money: $200
billion a year in interest. Think what that would buy in the programs
that are being cut under this President's budget. These are programs
such as law enforcement assistance from the Federal Government such as
the COPS program, putting police on the beat, on the street. That is
being cut. Education expenditures are being cut. Children's health
programs are being cut. Environmental programs are being cut. I could
go on.
Yet that creates the environment, the fiscal reality, that in times
of huge budget deficits, if you are going to get that figure from here
to match your revenues, you either have to cut spending or raise taxes
or, in the alternative, stop tax cuts that are projected to go into
effect in the future and don't let them go into effect, or both, in
order to get your Federal budget into balance.
We had a chance 3 years ago. We were in a surplus situation with so
much surplus projected over 10 years. We could have paid off the
national debt if we had been wise and conservative in our approach. But
we didn't. We went and blew it. We were like drunken sailors, spending
and enacting tax cuts that were targeted to the more well off among us.
The result is what the President's budget just said. In the budget that
was just released, the deficit spending this next fiscal year is going
to be over half a trillion dollars.
This is not conservative fiscal policy. This is wild and reckless
policy. When you give a continued tax cut to the rich to be financed by
out and out borrowing, that is not conservative fiscal policy. That is
out of control fiscal policy.
By the way, guess where we borrow that money. We borrow it from
Social Security recipients, because we are taking it out of the Social
Security trust fund. Guess where else we borrow it. We borrow it from
other countries and their companies and their investors. You think it
is just you and I who buy U.S. Treasury bills? Some of us do. And we
borrow it from us. But you would be shocked to know how much of the
Nation's debt and the new borrowing that will occur is being bought up
by corporations and governments in China and Japan. If they end up
having a good bit of our debt that is owed to them, what does that do
toward putting us in a vulnerable position in the future with regard to
our foreign policy with those countries, China and Japan? If they own a
lot of our debt or, put another way, if we owe them a lot of money,
that is not a position in which I think America ought to be.
There are some clever little tricks in this budget, too. They are
very technical. For example, one provision is that people are
encouraged, if the President's proposal is enacted, to take money out
of their individual retirement accounts, IRAs, or their 401(k) plans
and put them over into basically a privatizing of Social Security
accounts. But the little fiscal sleight of hand is that when you take
it out of an IRA, you are going to have to pay taxes on it. Lo and
behold, that gins up an additional $15 billion over this 5-year
projection in the budget of new tax revenue, to make it appear as if
there is going to be more revenue coming in than there is.
This is really not an economic document. It is a political document.
Unfortunately, it is a political document that is not a conservative
political document. So I am looking forward to us getting our fingers
into this budget and beginning to pick it apart. But what it does when
you have a budget this much out of control is it makes it so much more
difficult for very important programs such as this transportation bill
that will provide so many jobs, that will cause dollars to be spent and
circulated and restore the economy--it causes it to be a very difficult
time in which to enact this kind of legislation, particularly at the
level that some of us would like.
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Mr. President, I wanted to share my thoughts on this subject.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Oklahoma.
Mr. INHOFE. I appreciate the statement of my friend from Florida.
I would say, in terms of who the villain is in the deficit we are
facing right now, there are two big villains. One is the war, and then
the economy. As we started losing economic ground, a downturn back in
March of 2000, people didn't realize for every 1 percent change in
economic activity it translated into $45 billion in revenue. In other
words, as the economy is rebounding now, the revenue is coming back up.
Even continuing in the effort, the war effort--which I am afraid is
going to last for quite a while--we are going to be facing end strength
problems and that will have to go on.
I believe the best thing we can do is do it through the economy. At
the same time there are certain things that have to happen in America.
We have to do something about roads in America. I probably have as many
townhall meetings as anyone. I suggest the Senator from Florida does,
too. I can't remember one I have had where they haven't said something
about roads.
In Oklahoma what they say is, we can always tell when we are around
Thanksgiving time, when we have family coming in, we have friends
coming in, we can always know when we get to Oklahoma because of the
roads. I add to the Presiding Officer, when they come from Texas they
make that comment about Oklahoma roads. So we do have a very serious
problem. It seems to be more serious in my State.
Part of that is due to the donor status we have had for quite some
time. Of course, we have not had the money with which to do it. I feel
an obligation, and believe it is very appropriate for conservatives, to
get out and vote in favor of this type of an infrastructure program.
This translates directly into jobs, translates directly into the
economy, translates directly into increasing economic activity and
additional revenue that will come into Government.
With that, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Chambliss). The clerk will call the roll.
The legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
Mr. INHOFE. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for
the quorum call be rescinded.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
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