[Congressional Record Volume 149, Number 149 (Wednesday, October 22, 2003)]
[Senate]
[Page S13010]
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CLASS ACTION FAIRNESS ACT
Mr. DORGAN. Mr. President, I wanted to echo some comments made by my
colleague from Connecticut, Senator Dodd, on the issue of class action
reform.
I believe that we need to do a class action reform bill. Some of us
who voted against cloture this afternoon believe that there have been
abuses in the area of class action litigation, and that reform is
needed.
But class action reform has to be sensible and thoughtful, and it
needs to be resolved through negotiation. I am hopeful that this will
be accomplished. The minority leader indicated he is willing to
negotiate. The majority leader indicated he is willing to negotiate on
these issues. It is my hope that these negotiations will be fruitful.
There is no question that there have been instances of abusive forum
shopping. There are cases being filed in state court in places like
Madison County, Illinois, where there are thousands of plaintiffs, but
only a handful are from that area. It's pretty clear to me that cases
like that, when brought on behalf of nationwide classes, should be
heard in federal court.
I have a long list of such cases here, which on their face involve
abuses of the class action mechanism. I think I shall not go through
them all today. Suffice it to say that forum shopping is a problem, and
we need reforms in this area.
I also believe that there is a problem with coupon settlements. It
makes no sense to have settlements where plaintiffs get meaningless
coupons that are never redeemed. That, too, in my judgment, can and
should be changed.
I have decided to cosponsor the class action reform proposal
described by Senator John Breaux, because I think it takes care of the
problems of forum shopping and also coupon settlements. I think it is
superior to the bill that was the subject of today's cloture vote,
because it will more effectively address the issues of coupon
settlements and forum shopping.
With respect to coupon settlements, the Breaux bill is much tougher
than the Grassley-Hatch bill, which was the subject of today's cloture
vote. The Grassley-Hatch bill simply says that the courts should review
coupon settlements for fairness. By contrast, the proposal that is
offered by Senator Breaux, that I am cosponsoring, actually ties legal
fees to the rates at which coupons are actually redeemed. So in a case
where plaintiffs get meaningless coupons, the lawyers get paid
accordingly. That is a much preferable provision, in my judgment, in
reforming the class action area.
With respect to forum shopping, let me again point out that the
proposal offered by my colleague, Senator Breaux, is preferable. It
says if fewer than one-third of the plaintiffs are in a State, then it
goes to Federal court. If more than two-thirds are in a State, it goes
to State court. If it is in between the two, the Federal court shall
make a judgment of where it is most appropriate.
The bill that was proposed to be brought to the floor today would
have a very different mechanism. It would say that you could not bring
a case in state court unless the defendant was a citizen of that state.
So, for example, if 1,000 citizens of my State of North Dakota were
cheated by a company in Houston, TX, they could not form a class and
file an action in North Dakota under North Dakota law. They simply
could not do that under the bill brought to the floor of the Senate.
That is not fair. That doesn't make any sense.
Now, I understand that forum shopping is a problem and we ought to
deal with it. But there is a right way and a wrong way to deal with it.
I think the Breaux approach is the right way. It is a thoughtful,
balanced approach. It allows us to stop class action abuses, while at
the same time preserving the rights of people to be able to access
their own State courts in legitimate cases.
Again, I think it makes no sense to say to North Dakotans, it does
not matter if there are two thousand of you who have been injured by an
out-of-state company, you cannot access North Dakota State Courts and
you cannot have the protection of North Dakota state law. Yet that is
precisely what the bill that was the subject of today's vote would
have said.
The proposal offered by my colleague, Senator Breaux, strikes the
right balance. It is the right approach. Cases that involve a lot of
plaintiffs from around the country would go to federal court. But
citizens of a particular state would still be able to band together if
they were injured by an out-of-state defendant, and bring a lawsuit in
their own state court.
I say to the majority leader, if you are interested in class action
reform, then let's work out a solution to the very real problem of
class action abuses--but let's do it without depriving the people of
any one state of the right to access their state's court, in legitimate
cases. I think we can strike that proper balance, and I hope we can do
it soon. That is the reason I voted against the motion to proceed.
What we should avoid is a process in which the majority simply says:
Here's where the wagon is heading. If you like it, jump on. If you
don't like it, tough luck. Don't give us any advice along the way.
I am a conferee on the Energy bill, but I have not been invited to a
conference. No Democrat in the Senate has been included in a conference
on the Energy bill. In fact, we have been specifically excluded and
prevented from being a part of the conference. If that is the way
legislation will be handled in the Congress, it will pervert the
legislative process. In the case of the Energy Conference, nearly one-
half of the Senate, 49 Members of a body of 100 persons, are being
given no voice at the conference. We are told that the majority will
make all the decisions.
We are told by the majority: Just let us bring the Energy bill to the
floor and we will be fair. Just take our word for it.
Well, I hope and trust that we will follow a different path on the
issue of class action reform. The Breaux proposal is a good one. I
suggest we begin now seriously negotiating a balanced, responsible
solution, that takes care of the problem of class action abuses.
Let me also say parenthetically that there is another issue, in
addition to class action reform, that requires meaningful negotiations.
That is the issue of asbestos litigation. That, too, is a real problem
and we ought to deal with it. It, too, in my judgment, will require
negotiation. All sides are going to have to want to do this and be
willing to negotiate aggressively. You have a series of stakeholders
involved and those stakeholders, in my judgment, need to get together,
because the system is broken. We have people who are sick and dying who
are not getting help. And we have a huge cloud of uncertainty hanging
over the business community.
A solution is going to require, in my judgment, that all the
stakeholders be part of the negotiation. Yes, labor is a very
significant part of that. So, too, is the business community and
others.
I know this is a complex issue, but I hope in the concluding days of
this first session of the Congress we will see a breakthrough in
negotiations, and solve this asbestos issue in a way that works for
everyone.
I think they have been close on a number of occasions. My hope is it
finally is completed.
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