[Congressional Record Volume 149, Number 145 (Thursday, October 16, 2003)]
[Senate]
[Pages S12643-S12669]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]
EMERGENCY SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS FOR IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN SECURITY
AND RECONSTRUCTION ACT, 2004
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Under the previous order, the Senate will
resume consideration of S. 1689, which the clerk will report.
The assistant legislative clerk read as follows:
A bill (S. 1689) making emergency supplemental
appropriations for Iraq and Afghanistan security and
reconstruction for the fiscal year ending September 30th,
2004, and for other purposes.
Pending:
Byrd amendment No. 1818, to impose a limitation on the use
of sums appropriated for the Iraq Relief and Reconstruction
Fund.
Byrd/Durbin amendment No. 1819, to prohibit the use of Iraq
Relief and Reconstruction Funds for low priority activities
that should not be the responsibility of U.S. taxpayers, and
shift $600 million from the Iraq Relief and Reconstruction
Fund to Defense Operations and Maintenance, Army, for
significantly improving efforts to secure and destroy
conventional weapons, such as bombs, bomb materials, small
arms, rocket propelled grenades, and shoulder-launched
missiles, in Iraq.
Bond/Mikulski amendment No. 1825, to provide additional VA
Medical Care Funds for the Department of Veterans Affairs.
Dubin amendment No. 1837, to ensure that a Federal employee
who takes leave without pay in order to perform certain
service as a member of the uniformed services or member of
the National Guard shall continue to receive pay in an amount
which, when taken together with the pay and allowances such
individual is receiving for such service, will be no less
than the basic pay such individual would then be receiving if
no interruption in employment had occurred.
Reed/Hagel amendment No. 1834, to increase the end strength
of the Army and to structure the additional forces for
constabulary duty. (By 45 yeas to 52 nays (Vote No. 382),
Senate failed to table the amendment.)
Feingold amendment No. 1852, to enable military family
members to take leave to attend to deployment-related
business and tasks.
Daschle amendment No. 1854, to achieve the most effective
means of reconstructing Iraq and to reduce the future costs
to the American taxpayer of such reconstruction by ensuring
broad-based international cooperation for this effort.
Feinstein amendment No. 1848, to require reports on the
United States strategy for relief and reconstruction efforts
in Iraq, and to limit the availability of certain funds for
those efforts pending determinations by the President that
the objectives and deadlines for those efforts will be
substantially achieved.
Nelson (FL) amendment No. 1858, to set aside from certain
amounts available for the Iraq Relief and Reconstruction
Fund, $10,000,000 for the Family Readiness Program of the
National Guard.
Reid (for Landrieu) amendment No. 1859, to promote the
establishment of an Iraq Reconstruction Finance Authority and
the use of Iraqi oil revenues to pay for reconstruction in
Iraq.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Alaska.
Mr. STEVENS. Madam President, we urge Senators to contact the
managers of this bill to try to work out a time when their amendments
might be considered, and to see if we have any possibility of dealing
with the several amendments at one time. We tried to do that last night
with regard to reporting requirements, and I stated to the Senate it is
our hope we can blend all of the reporting requirements along with
those that are already in the House bill and work out a logical
sequence for the reporting and the activities of an inspector general,
if that is required as far as the Iraq operation is concerned.
We will be hopeful that today we can look at--there are additional
amendments being suggested on the list that was approved last night for
reporting requirements, and I would be pleased to consider taking any
of those and adding them to the package that is already in the bill for
reporting requirements and for details regarding the inspector general.
But my purpose for seeking the floor right now is to urge Senators to
contact the managers of the bill, and let us work out some logical
sequence in terms of the amendments that are pending or will be
offered.
This is going to be a long day. We still have the commitment that we
will do our utmost to finish by tomorrow. I congratulate my good friend
from Nevada, the Democratic assistant leader, for all his efforts in
getting us to where we are now in terms of knowing the amendments that
are possible to be considered.
But within the timeframe we have, we cannot consider them all without
really a great deal of consideration on both sides in terms of the
amount of time a Senator takes to explain the amendment and
particularly in terms of Senators being willing to cooperate with us to
blend amendments so we can deal with one subject maybe in one or two
amendments. That is possible. I look forward to working with Senator
Reid, who is actively involved in trying to reduce the number of these
amendments, as well as I am, with our joint staffs.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Ensign). The Senator from West Virginia.
Amendment No. 1818
Mr. BYRD. Mr. President, I call up amendment No. 1818.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The amendment is pending under the previous
order.
Mr. BYRD. Very well. I thank the Chair.
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Mr. President, I congratulate the distinguished chairman of the
Appropriations Committee. He is always on the job. And he is effective.
He is characteristically courteous. I commend him on the progress he
has made already on the bill.
There are several cosponsors of this amendment. I hope they will come
to the floor and join in the debate concerning the amendment. I need
their voices to blend with my own, mine being the weakest of all. But I
need the cosponsors to join and make this supreme effort here to have
the Senate adopt this extremely worthwhile amendment.
In all the discussion surrounding the President's request for $20.3
billion for reconstruction activities in Iraq and Afghanistan--in the
question of whether the funding should be in the form of a grant or a
loan, in the revelation of a series of frivolous proposed expenditures,
in the dispute over whether reconstruction funding is a gold-plated
add-on or an integral part of the occupation strategy--there is an
overriding issue that we must not allow to be lost in the noise of the
debate.
That issue involves the fact that American taxpayers--American
taxpayers--are being presented virtually the entire bill for the
stabilization and reconstruction of Iraq because of decisions that were
made by the President before the war began, decisions to embrace an
unprecedented doctrine of preemption and to invade Iraq without the
support of the United Nations or the international community.
Those decisions are coming home to haunt us today. The chickens are
coming home to roost. Because of the President's obstinance and go-it-
alone mentality, it is American soldiers who are patrolling the most
dangerous streets and cities of Iraq, and it is American taxpayers who
are being asked to foot the bill for the stabilization and
reconstruction of Iraq--American soldiers and American taxpayers.
It appears there is little relief in sight. After seesawing back and
forth, the United Nations Security Council is now expected to accept a
revised U.S. resolution on Iraq, but the resolution on the table is
little more than a fancy fig leaf designed to camouflage an empty
gesture. The resolution proposed by the United States cedes no
meaningful authority to the United Nations and is likely to have little
impact on the number of foreign troops or the amount of international
financial assistance the United Nations will provide for the
stabilization and the reconstruction of Iraq.
American troops in Iraq and American taxpayers at home need real help
from the international community. The President needs to reach out to
the United Nations, not merely attempt to paper over the glaring lack
of support from the international community with a resolution that, as
some Texans are wont to say, is all hat and no cattle.
The administration's reckless misadventure in Iraq is exacting a high
price in lost lives, lost respect for our Nation in the world, and lost
ground in the war on terrorism. And yet, in the past week, the only
visible response from the President to the continuing chaos in Iraq has
been to reshuffle the chain of command in Washington by creating a new
entity to consolidate Iraq's reconstruction in the White House instead
of the Pentagon.
The President misses the point. Instead of rearranging the chairs on
the deck, the President should be changing direction. Creating a new
Iraq policy shop in the White House will not bring relief to American
soldiers on the ground, and it will not save American taxpayers from
having to shoulder, virtually alone, the staggering financial burden of
rebuilding Iraq.
Now, the American people, in the first place, did not buy on to this
idea that we were going to rebuild Iraq. They were not told that. They
were not told we were going to rebuild a nation there. They were not
told about the staggering costs of rebuilding Iraq.
If there is any shift in the balance of power over the reconstruction
of Iraq--and there should be--it must be across oceans, not just across
the Potomac. It is long past time to bring in the United Nations as a
full partner with shared responsibility and shared decisionmaking for
the future of Iraq. The President does not need another in-house
committee to advise him on the future of Iraq. He needs to
internationalize the stabilization and the reconstruction effort.
Instead of instituting meaningful change in his Iraq policy, the
President presented a bait-and-switch proposition to the American
people: Don't look too closely at the policy, just keep your attention
on the policy shop.
We cannot undo what has been done in Iraq. But we can chart a better
course for the future.
First and foremost, the Bush administration should drop its stubborn
insistence that the world community not have any authority in the
political reconstruction of Iraq. The resolution that will be
considered at the United Nations Security Council this morning makes
some progress in promoting cooperation between the United Nations and
the Iraqi Governing Council but keeps the United Nations at an arm's
length from the Coalition Provisional Authority. It is this authority,
headed by Paul Bremer, that exercises total authority in postwar Iraq.
If you don't believe what I have said about total authority, just
listen. Ambassador Bremer's first regulation as head of the Coalition
Provisional Authority reads in part as follows:
The CPA is vested with all executive, legislative, and
judicial authority--
How about that? ``The CPA is vested with all,'' not just an itty-
bitty part--
executive, legislative, and judicial authority necessary to
achieve its objectives. . . .
Take a look at the first sentence in article I of the Constitution of
the United States which I hold in my hands. The first sentence in this
Constitution, article I, section 1:
All legislative Powers granted shall be vested in a
Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a
Senate and House of Representatives.
What a sweeping investiture of power that first sentence makes--``all
legislative power.'' It doesn't say anything about executive or
judicial power, ``all legislative power.'' But listen to this,
Ambassador Bremer's first regulation as head of the Coalition
Provisional Authority:
The CPA is vested with all executive, legislative, and
judicial authority necessary to achieve its objectives, to be
exercised under relevant U.N. Security Council resolutions,
including Resolution 1483 (2003), and the laws and usages of
war. This authority shall be exercised by the CPA
administrator.
What an enormous grant of power that is. The new resolution that will
be voted on today at the United Nations will not change the supreme
authority claimed by Paul Bremer who was installed in his post by the
President without offering his nomination to the U.S. Senate for its
advice and consent.
There is power--power. Remember the old song: There is power, power,
wonder working power.
Well, if the international community is going to continue to be
squeezed out of the political decisionmaking in the Coalition
Provisional Authority, there is little incentive for the world to
mobilize to come to the aid of postwar Iraq. The President's ``my way
or the highway'' approach to the governance of Iraq undermines the
mission in Iraq and ignores the will of the American people. The United
Nations is willing to help, but only if the administration drops
its false pride and its bravado.
``Bring them on,'' the President said. That is bravado.
Before coming into office, then-candidate Bush talked of a humble
approach to foreign policy. ``Let us reject the blinders of
isolationism, just as we refuse the crown of empire,'' he said. ``Let
us not dominate others with our power or betray them with our
indifference,'' he said. ``And let us have an American foreign policy
that reflects American character,'' he said. ``The modesty of true
strength, the humility of real greatness,'' the President said.
Those were the words of candidate George W. Bush, but they have been
far from the practice of President George W. Bush.
Similarly, the administration ought to rethink its extreme good-
versus-evil mantra that seems to be running this Nation's foreign
policy into a morass of confusion and danger. The administration's
obstinance continues to strain America's relationship with other
countries and undermines our credibility with other foreign powers.
President Bush committed the United States to war without broad
international support. He said: If you don't do it, we will. He said:
If the United Nations doesn't do it, we will.
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He refused to go back to the United Nations prior to launching military
attacks and continues to stiff-arm the international community even
today, when that help is so vital to the long-term interests of Iraq.
Instead, the Bush administration has adopted a go-it-alone mentality
that threatens the stability of the Middle East and could spill over
into other global areas.
The United States needs help in Iraq. The United States needs a plan
that will bring relief to our overburdened soldiers by attracting
significantly more foreign troops to Iraq and bring relief to our
overburdened taxpayers by attracting financial assistance from the
international community for reconstruction.
The President's proposal does neither. His $87 billion spending
request places the entire burden of securing and rebuilding Iraq
squarely on the shoulders of the American forces and American
taxpayers. That burden ought not be carried by the United States
alone. That is why Senator Kennedy, Senator Leahy, other Senators and I
have proposed an alternative.
What Senator Kennedy, Senator Leahy, and other Senators and I have
offered is more than an invitation to the international community to
assume a large and vital role in the reconstruction of Iraq; it is a
demand, on behalf of the American people, that the President go to the
nations of the world and work in partnership with those other nations
of the world. It is a mandate for a new policy in Iraq, a policy that
will bring peace more quickly and stability more assuredly.
The amendment, in effect, says: Mr. President, your plan for Iraq has
not worked. It is costing lives every day and it is jeopardizing the
long-term security of the Middle East. We need to share political power
in Iraq with the United Nations, and we must be willing to listen to
the rest of the world, share the responsibility, attract new partners
for peace, and protect our men and women in Iraq.
That is what this amendment would require. It is a commonsense
approach to what is quickly becoming an American quagmire in Iraq.
These are dangerous times, Mr. President. These are dangerous times--
times that demand determined, disciplined leadership.
The path ahead is not a certain one, but what is certain is that the
United States cannot afford to blaze this path alone. America relied on
strong alliances, diplomacy, and, only when necessary, armed force to
lead the world in the 20th century. But the Bush administration's 21st
century America seems all too ready to focus solely on armed force
rather than on strong alliances and diplomacy.
Simply put, we need a plan that would bring relief to the American
soldiers, to help U.S. troops by attracting significantly more foreign
military troops to Iraq; and we need a plan that will bring relief to
the overburdened American taxpayers by attracting meaningful financial
assistance from the international community for the reconstruction of
Iraq. We need a framework to begin to bring American troops home,
supplemented by international forces on the ground--not just on paper--
in Iraq.
Currently, the United States has approximately 120,000 troops in
Iraq. They are augmented by about 20,000 foreign forces, primarily from
Great Britain. Another 10,000 troops from Turkey would help, but it
would still leave more than 100,000 American troops in Iraq for the
foreseeable future.
In an interview published in the Chicago Tribune on October 5, LTG
Ricardo Sanchez, the head of the coalition forces in Iraq, predicted
that it would be years--years--not months, before the United States can
draw down its forces from Iraq.
The American people were not told that, were they, when we went into
this war? No, they were not told that. The men and women in the
National Guard and Reserves were not told that, were they--that it
would be years, not months, before the United States could draw down
its forces from Iraq?
Until a new Iraqi Army is trained and ready to assume command, the
only relief for American soldiers is to build up foreign troop presence
in Iraq.
International financial assistance is equally important. The American
taxpayers cannot afford to bear the full cost of the reconstruction of
Iraq. We all know that the $20.3 billion requested by the President in
this supplemental is just the beginning, just a downpayment. It is not
the alpha and the omega of American taxpayers' dollars that will be
asked by the administration in this enterprise.
The Wall Street Journal recently reported that rebuilding Iraq is
expected to cost $56 billion over the next 4 years, according to an
estimate reached by the World Bank, the United Nations, and the
Coalition Provisional Authority. So far, other countries have pledged
less than $2 billion to the effort.
The amendment that Senators Kennedy, Leahy, and I are offering would
require the President to reach out to other nations for both military
and financial support--reach out, reach out to other nations.
Our amendment provides that, after April 1, 2004, Iraq relief and
reconstruction funds can only be obligated if, one, the President
certifies to Congress that the U.N. has adopted a new resolution
authorizing a multinational security force under U.S. leadership in
Iraq and providing a central role for the U.N. in the political and
economic development of Iraq; two, the President certifies that he has
a detailed plan in place for the reconstruction of Iraq, including a
significant commitment of financial assistance from other nations;
three, Congress approves the release of the rest of the funds for the
reconstruction of Iraq in another appropriations bill.
As part of his certification to Congress, the President must
establish a plan; he must establish a timetable for withdrawing
American troops from Iraq. This is the way to get the U.N. in and the
U.S. out. It is a real alternative to the administration's bull-rush
approach, and it is a significant gesture to the Iraqi people that
America is not an occupier but a real liberator.
The Byrd-Kennedy-Leahy amendment limits the funds for the
reconstruction of Iraq that may be obligated prior to April 1, 2004, to
the $5.1 billion fund for Iraqi security and $5 billion for economic
reconstruction.
Our amendment compels the President to work with the United Nations.
Our amendment requires Congress to evaluate the progress of the
reconstruction effort at the halfway mark next year. Most important,
our amendment changes the course of the Iraq relief and reconstruction
effort from a unilateral burden to an international obligation.
It is important to note that the full $5.1 billion that the
administration has requested for the Iraq Defense Corps and for
improving the Iraqi national security force is exempted from this
amendment. Only the nonsecurity portion of the reconstruction program
is subject to a second vote.
It seems to me that this is the least we can do to provide relief to
American soldiers in Iraq--to have a timetable to bring those American
soldiers home to once again reunite with their families--and to
safeguard the interests of the American taxpayers in the
administration's program to finance the rebuilding of Iraq.
We have a far clearer vision today of the cost of rebuilding Iraq
than we did 6 months ago. I think we have a right to assume that we
will have an even better assessment--or we certainly should have--6
months from now.
This amendment gives the President 6 months to round up international
military and financial support for Iraq and gives his administration 6
months to demonstrate that the reconstruction program is working. Most
importantly, the amendment gives the American people--the American
people who are bearing the burden in the heat of the day--it gives the
American people some assurance that Congress is not walking away from
its responsibility to provide oversight of the hard-earned tax dollars
that are going to Iraq.
If all goes as planned, Congress can quickly and in good conscience
release the remainder of the money, but if unforeseen problems or
serious shortfalls in expectations emerge, Congress has an opportunity
to make a midcourse correction in America's involvement in postwar
Iraq. It is the American taxpayers money, you who are out there in the
plains, the mountains, and the valleys of America looking through these
electronic lenses. It is your money, your money--deserve no less.
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This is not an anti-reconstruction amendment. It does not affect any
of the money being appropriated for American military operations in
Iraq. It requires, rather, a progress report and a certification from
the President of the United States at the halfway mark, and it provides
for a vote--another vote--a vote from the people's representatives in
Congress on whether the remaining funds for Iraq reconstruction are
needed and are justified.
This is a simple amendment to interject congressional oversight into
the expenditure of United States taxpayer dollars for the
reconstruction of Iraq. I urge my colleagues to accept the amendment.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Alaska.
Mr. STEVENS. Mr. President, I think we have been here before. This is
another amendment--it reminds me of Yogi Berra: It is deja vu all over
again. We are looking at the same problem. The problem is the
disagreement of the Senator from West Virginia with the President's
action with regard to Iraq.
I read the Constitution, too. The President is Commander in Chief. He
selected an ambassador who, in fact, has been confirmed by the Senate
and gave him the powers to execute the actions necessary to move toward
establishing a new government in Iraq.
I was interested in the editorial in the Washington Post yesterday:
``Stay Resolute on Rebuilding.''
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the full editorial be
printed in the Record following my remarks.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
(See exhibit 1.)
Mr. STEVENS. The editorial starts off by saying:
This is a critical week for the U.S. mission in Iraq. The
test won't be overseas but in the House and the Senate, where
lawmakers are to vote on the administration's request for $87
billion in emergency funding. It's imperative that this
spending be approved--not only the money required for
military operations but the smaller, more controversial,
amount for reconstruction aid. We omit an exact dollar figure
from the previous sentence because that's a legitimate
subject for debate. The Bush administration is asking for
$20.3 billion in reconstruction spending; the House
Appropriations Committee trimmed $1.7 billion from that
amount. What's important is not the precise number but the
underlying premise: that reconstruction is in the best
interests of both the United States and Iraq.
The editorial goes on:
One of the biggest temptations for lawmakers will be to
lend the money rather than spend it outright. This approach
has particular traction in the Senate, where a number of
Republicans are endorsing it. They argue that oil-rich Iraq
can pay for its own reconstruction; giving it the money
outright will just allow it to pay off existing debt more
quickly to countries that shirked the reconstruction task, at
U.S. taxpayer expense. This may play well back home, but it's
the wrong way to go.
This amendment will cap reconstruction funds for Iraq at $5 billion
and require Congress to enact yet another appropriations bill to spend
the remainder of the funds. It attempts to sweeten the amendment with
$5 billion for security-rated activities that is excluded from the cap,
but it is still a very bitter pill for those in charge of our troops in
Iraq to swallow.
As this editorial I just mentioned stated:
Paying to improve life for Iraqis will help create a safer
environment for U.S. troops and will hasten the day when they
can leave. Rebuilding the electricity grid, fixing the water
supply, getting the oil flowing, maintaining public safety--
all this is central to hopes for stability and representative
government.
In addition to untenable funding restraints, this amendment requires
a Presidential certification that the U.N. Security Council has adopted
a resolution authorizing a multinational force under United States
leadership for Iraq and that reconstruction efforts are being
successfully implemented according to a detailed plan before additional
funds can be appropriated.
I know of nothing in the Constitution that says the Commander in
Chief of our Armed Forces has to give Congress a plan. He did give us a
plan. There is a plan, and it is being executed. But to put it in law
that the Commander in Chief cannot spend money for our troops or for
reconstruction efforts without a detailed plan is going too far.
Ambassador Bremer has a plan, and we are funding it. The President
has a plan, and we are following it, and he is the Commander in Chief.
I think it is high time we recognize that the Commander in Chief has
powers abroad, particularly when we have men and women in the field
still under security restraints. There are people over there still
being killed daily, and that bothers me greatly.
What I fear most is the loss of momentum in the program being pursued
by the amendments being offered that will derail the plan, derail the
operations, and put in restrictions so we cannot go forward. I believe
the President has a plan and the Bremer plan will work. If it does not,
they will be back, I am sure. But if it does, it will be the first time
in history where we went from the concept of a victory in the field
militarily to establishing a new government in a country that has
really been totally destroyed by its former government, the Saddam
Hussein regime. It will be the first time we went from a military
victory to a new government without a long period of occupation.
The result of the Byrd amendment is that it will assure we will have
increased forces over there occupying Iraq for years and years. I don't
know where the Senator got that quote from, but no one told me we are
going to be there years and years. As a matter of fact, our goal is not
that. We have already withdrawn some troops. The general the Senator
quoted has already withdrawn some troops. We are not predicting they
are going to be there for years and years. There may well be a United
States presence there for some time, whether or not the Iraqi people
ask for it. I hope they reach a point where they think they can provide
for their own security.
We have this ongoing problem in Afghanistan very clearly that is
going to take some time to establish a government there. We do have
some international cooperation but not much really in the long run.
The Senator from West Virginia mentions the U.N. Just yesterday, the
Secretary of State told us about the improved circumstance in the U.N.
today.
We are pursuing a resolution in the U.N. but to make expenditure of
our funds conditioned upon the resolution passing in the U.N. is
absolutely wrong. This amendment holds reconstruction efforts hostage
to the passage of other appropriations bills and hostage to action by
the U.N.
Now, I would hope that Senators will read what I consider to be a
very appropriate editorial from the Washington Post that I have just
placed in the Record. It says:
The debate over reconstruction aid has become a means for
expressing frustration, much of it legitimate, about the
administration's Iraq policy. Why wasn't the administration
more honest from the outset about the costs? Why can't it do
a better job of getting other countries to help pay? What's
the plan for future years? How will it be paid for? Lawmakers
are right to use the leverage of debate to seek clearer
answers . . .
But debate is one thing; restrictions in the law is an entirely
different thing. I do not believe Congress has the power and should not
try to exercise the power to put restraints on the Commander in Chief
when we have forces in the field. Our job is to provide the money to
keep those men and women safe, and that is what this bill does. Sixty-
six-plus billion dollars is to maintain our troops. The balance is one
of the most distinct things the President has done as a leader, to say
let's move forward now. Let's give them a chance to create a new
government. Let's help them set up their security. Let's help them
restore their means of living. Let's help them restore their energy.
Let's help them restore their oilfields. Let's help them restore safety
in the streets. Let's work with them so they can take over their own
government.
I received a letter this morning from the Coalition Provisional
Authority, and I ask unanimous consent that this letter from Ambassador
Bremer be printed in the Record. I will make copies available for every
Senator.
There being no objection, the material was ordered to be printed in
the Record, as follows:
Coalition Provisional Authority,
Baghdad, October 16, 2003.
Hon. Ted Stevens,
U.S. Senate,
Washington, DC.
Dear Mr. Chairman: I want to express my personal
appreciation to you for your superb
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efforts in managing, S. 1689 the President's Emergency
Supplemental Appropriation. All of us in the Coalition
Provisional Authority are especially pleased with the
expeditious manner in which the legislation has moved through
the Committee and now in the Senate.
The Supplemental the President has submitted provides a
clear strategy for achieving our goal of an early restoration
of full sovereignty to the Iraqi people and for making
additional progress in the war on terrorism.
I want you and your colleagues to know that we are making
every endeavor to operate in a transparent and accountable
manner. But any major cuts of specific portions of the
President's request will impact the scope and pace of
reconstruction efforts, which in turn will delay the return
home of the U.S. troops. There is no doubt that these funds
will help contribute to the peace and stability of not only
Iraq but eventually of the entire region.
Likewise efforts to link U.S. restructuring funds to
contributions from the International community would be
counter productive. Such linkage would send the wrong message
to our allies that either they match the U.S. dollar for
dollar or America will abandon Iraq.
I understand there are various proposals being offered
which would convert portions of the funding request to a loan
mechanism of some type. Any such proposal would merely add
further debt to the already huge debt currently owed by
Iraqis. As you know from my testimony three weeks ago, I am
concerned that as was the case in the young fragile democracy
in Weimar Germany, such a situation could destabilize the
young Iraqi democracy before it even gets off the ground.
Moreover, if the United States makes its contribution in the
form of a loan, we will encourage other nations to follow
that example at the Madrid Donors' conference next week,
further exacerbating Iraq's debt situation, and I might add,
complicating the eventual process of restructuring the
country's overall debt burden.
The sooner Iraq is stable and headed toward prosperity,
the sooner the American troops can return home. The U.S.
stands to gain a great deal of moral capital for deposing the
tyrannical Saddam Hussein and then helping to create a
stable, democratic and prosperous Iraqi state. Such moral
capital would be diminished, if not undercut entirely, if the
U.S. forced Iraq to pay the U.S. for its work. Further it
would lend credence to the view that the U.S. is an occupier
and not a liberator.
All in the coalition are grateful to you and your Senate
colleagues for your efforts and it is our hope that you
continue to resist any debilitating amendments which will set
back our many successes so far.
Sincerely,
L. Paul Bremer.
Mr. STEVENS. It says:
The supplemental the President has submitted provides a
clear strategy for achieving our goal of an early restoration
of full sovereignty to the Iraqi people and for making
additional progress on the war on terrorism. I want you and
your colleagues to know that we are making every endeavor to
operate in a transparent and accountable manner. But any
major cuts of specific portions of the President's request
will impact the scope and pace of reconstruction efforts,
which in turn will delay the return home of the U.S. troops.
There is no doubt that these funds will help contribute to
the peace and stability of not only Iraq but eventually the
entire region.
That is the dream the Secretary of State explained to us yesterday,
that we are moving forward in a region that has had instability for a
century, and what has been needed is a key country such as Iraq turning
toward a democracy, turning toward involving people. Just listening to
the people who have seen and talked to the young people in school, we
now know that young women in Iraq are going to school for the first
time because of this country. A whole new generation will not just have
men educated but will have men and women, who are going to participate
in their own government. They want to do that. There has been an
overwhelming reaction in Iraq toward freedom.
We want to hold it back? We want to put up some gates and say you can
go just this far, but you have to come back to Congress for more money?
When? In February, and then more money later.
The whole idea is to put the money up and let the Iraqi people know
we are assisting them to move forward. We are going to assist them.
Debate is one thing, but gates, obstruction, is another. This
amendment is obstructionism. It is intended to require a return to this
floor before the money the President has requested in the supplemental
can be spent. I think that is absolutely wrong, and when the
appropriate time comes I will move to table this amendment.
Exhibit 1--Stay Resolute on Rebuilding
This is a critical week for the U.S. mission in Iraq. The
test won't be overseas but in the House and Senate, where
lawmakers are to vote on the administration's request for $87
billion in emergency funding. It's imperative that this
spending be approved--not only the money required for
military operations but the smaller, more controversial,
amount for reconstruction aid. We omit an exact dollar figure
from the previous sentence because that's a legitimate
subject for debate. The Bush administration is asking for
$20.3 billion in reconstruction spending; the House
Appropriations Committee trimmed $1.7 billion from that
amount. What's important is not the precise number but the
underlying premise: that reconstruction is in the interests
of both the United States and Iraq.
It would be intellectually consistent, though wrong, to
argue against both military and reconstruction funding. But
to present oneself as a supporter of money ``for our troops''
and an opponent of reconstruction is contradictory and
counterproductive. Paying to improve life for Iraqis will
help create a safer environment for U.S. troops and will
hasten the day when they can leave. Rebuilding the
electricity grid, fixing the water supply, getting the oil
flowing, maintaining public safety--all this is central to
hopes for stability and representative government.
One of the biggest temptations for lawmakers will be to
lend the money rather than spend it outright. This approach
has particular traction in the Senate, where a number of
Republicans are endorsing it. They argue that oil-rich Iraq
can pay for its own reconstruction; giving it the money
outright will just allow it to pay off existing debt more
quickly to countries that shirked the reconstruction task, at
U.S. taxpayer expense. This may play well back home, but it's
the wrong way to go.
Iraq is already burdened with about $200 billion in debt.
Either much of that will be forgiven, in which case a U.S.
reconstruction loan will prove most symbolic, or Iraq will
struggle for years under a crushing debt burden, in which
case another loan only adds to the misery. To make a loan in
these circumstances is like swimming out to a drowning man
and handing him a ten-pound weight. As a practical matter, no
Iraqi entity has the legal authority to enter into a binding
agreement. Lending the money will harm the U.S. effort to
persuade other countries to donate. And forcing Iraq to
encumber itself with debt to the United States, with U.S.
companies reaping the reconstruction profits, plays into the
hands of those who suspect U.S. motives.
The debate over reconstruction aid has become a means for
expressing frustration, much of it legitimate, about the
administration's Iraq policy. Why wasn't the administration
more honest from the outset about costs? Why can't it do a
better job of getting other countries to help pay? What's the
plan for future years? How will it be paid for? Lawmakers are
right to use the leverage of debate to seek clearer answers
and improved performance from the administration. But a
failure to obtain satisfaction on these points doesn't
justify a vote against needed funding. One of the Democratic
presidential candidates who will be called on to vote on the
request, Sen. John Edwards (N.C.), said yesterday that he
will vote against the aid for this reason, and Sen. John F.
Kerry (Mass.) seems inclined to follow this irresponsible
course. Former Vermont governor Howard Dean's position--yes,
but only if the president comes up with a way to pay for it--
is similarly faulty. As much as we would like to see some tax
cuts rolled back, that's not going to happen, at least as
part of the current debate. Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman (Conn.)
had it right the other day, saying that, despite misgivings
and his desire to undo some of the tax cuts to pay for it:
``We have no choice but to finance this program.''
Helping rebuild Iraq is right as a matter of morality and
self-interest. Refusing to pay what's needed because the
administration's performance has been lacking simply piles
error on top of error. Whatever the Bush Administration's
failings, it makes no sense to punish the people of Iraq--
and, ultimately, of the United States--as a result.
Mr. STEVENS. I want to be courteous to the people on the other side,
and I will try to see if we cannot find some time limit. It would be
within my right to move to table right now, but I want to be
cooperative. The Senator from West Virginia has asked for other
Senators to be allowed to speak, so I will seek to find some way to
delineate some time limits. I have spoken for about 8 minutes. I know
Senator Durbin, Senator Harkin, Senator Kennedy, and I believe Senator
Boxer want to speak. I ask unanimous consent that each be recognized
for 10 minutes and that I then be allowed the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection?
Mrs. BOXER. Reserving the right to object.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from California.
Mrs. BOXER. I urge my friend to please not put such severe time
limits on this because for some of us this is an extremely important
amendment that goes to the heart of how we feel about the issue. I know
my friend vehemently objects. Just the way he vehemently objects, I
vehemently support
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the Senator. I have not spoken much in this debate thus far and feel
that it is extremely important to my constituents, who do not want the
status quo, who want a change, to hear my views.
I ask my friend if he could withhold a particular time. My own view
is I probably need about 15, 20 minutes, max, but I do not know for
sure.
Mr. STEVENS. The Senator has the right to object, and I have the
right to move to table. I still have the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection?
Mrs. BOXER. I object to the 10 minutes.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Objection is heard.
Mr. STEVENS. Mr. President, we are going to work out some time limit
on this amendment or I am going to move to table. As a matter of fact,
right now I believe we have 45 or more amendments remaining. We have an
agreement of the Senate, a handshake agreement for a change. It was not
a unanimous consent agreement. It was just a handshake between everyone
on the floor that we will finish this bill by tomorrow. We are not
going to finish this if we have people speaking at length on every
amendment.
Now, I have been informed we have 58 amendments remaining. This is
the first one. I ask the Senator, what is a reasonable limitation on
the Senator's comments?
Mrs. BOXER. For myself, I would like to speak up to 20 minutes. I may
only take 15.
Mr. STEVENS. Twenty minutes for the Senator from California, 20
minutes for the Senator from Illinois, 20 minutes for the Senator from
Iowa, and 20 minutes for the Senator from Massachusetts, and I assume
the Senator from West Virginia wants recognition again. That is more
than an hour on 1 out of 58 amendments. I think that is excessive.
I am willing to change it to 15 minutes for each Senator. I ask
unanimous consent that Senator Durbin, Senator Harkin, Senator Kennedy,
Senator Boxer, and Senator Byrd be recognized not to exceed 15 minutes
before I retain the floor to make a motion to table.
Mr. BYRD. Mr. President, reserving the right to object.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from West Virginia.
Mr. BYRD. I hope my chairman will not press this request at this
time. As far as I know, there is no intention on this side of the aisle
to lengthen the process by which the Senator would consider this
amendment. This is a very important amendment. I hope the distinguished
Senator would not press for any time limitation on the amendment at
this point.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection?
Mr. STEVENS. I still have the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection?
Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. BYRD. No, Mr. President.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. There is a unanimous consent request pending.
Is there objection?
Mr. BYRD. Mr. President, I have reserved the right to object and
expressed the hope that the distinguished chairman would not press this
request at this time.
Mr. STEVENS. Mr. President, I will be glad to debate a little bit
what is important and what is not important. I have before me 58
amendments, and I do not know of any Senator who says his or her
amendment is not important. This amendment is important. I think the
amendment of any Senator is important. With 58 amendments pending, we
have to find some way to limit debate. The only way I know to limit it
is by making a motion to table.
I again seek the guidance of the Members on the other side. I think
we really have eight amendments, other than a reservation of amendments
to be able to be offered in the second degree. Of the basic amendments
that are now here, there are, what, 31?
Mr. REID. Will the Senator yield for a question?
Mr. STEVENS. Without losing the right to the floor, I yield to the
distinguished Senator from Nevada for a comment.
Mr. REID. Mr. President, I state to the distinguished manager of the
bill, Senator Durbin is not going to be able to come. I think if we
just proceeded with this, it may move more quickly than one would
think. Senator Durbin is not going to come. Senator Kennedy will speak.
Senator Boxer will speak. I think it would move more quickly than one
would think.
Mr. STEVENS. Senator Leahy now; that's a sixth one. If each one takes
20 minutes, we are going to be at 2 o'clock before we vote on this.
Mr. BYRD. Will the Senator yield?
Mr. STEVENS. I yield to the Senator without losing my right to the
floor.
Mr. BYRD. Mr. President, we have already taken 15 or 20 minutes.
Mr. STEVENS. I have taken 7 minutes.
Mr. BYRD. The Senator has not been alone taking time. I am hoping his
sweet nature will prevail and allow Senators to speak.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The gallery will remain quiet.
Mr. BYRD. I hope the Senator will not press for an agreement this
early in the morning. We can move right along. Senators are here.
Senator Leahy is here; Senator Kennedy is here; Senator Boxer is here.
We are prepared to move along. We are not attempting to drag out the
time.
I hope the Senator will allow Senators to go forward with this
debate. We will save time in the long run by so doing.
Mr. STEVENS. Mr. President, may I inquire of the minority, are they
willing to set a firm time for the vote on this amendment?
Mr. BYRD. Not yet, Mr. President.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Alaska has the floor.
Mr. REID. I do really think this will move more quickly. We don't
need to allocate 20 minutes on this. If we just go forward, things will
work out. You still have the right, after somebody completes a
statement, to get the floor.
Mr. STEVENS. Let me try this. I ask unanimous consent I be allowed to
yield the floor to Senator Boxer to make such remarks as she wishes to
make, and when she is finished her remarks, I regain the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection?
Mr. REID. Mr. President, he would get the floor, anyway. He is the
manager of the bill. I have no objection to that request.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
The Senator from California.
Mrs. BOXER. I assure the Senator from Alaska my remarks are really
not as long as 20 minutes. I certainly will try to get my points across
in short order.
Mr. President, I am very proud to stand with the senior Democratic
Senator on the Appropriations Committee, Senator Byrd, and support his
amendment to require the administration to develop a plan for Iraq, to
share the burden of Iraqi reconstruction and security, and provide
Congress with the information it deserves to have, not only as a
coequal branch of Government but in behalf of our constituents.
I view this amendment as a very strong alternative to the underlying
bill, an alternative that is better for our troops, that is better for
our taxpayers, and will finally give us a plan and an exit strategy we
should have had a long time ago.
The Byrd amendment withholds half of the money requested for
reconstruction until the President certifies and reports to Congress
that the U.N. Security Council has adopted a new resolution authorizing
a multinational force under U.S. leadership. That would result in more
funding and more troops from other nations to relieve our heavy burden.
And the burden is, indeed, heavy.
I am very happy the U.N. Security Council just passed a resolution.
But, if I might say, what that resolution does--and I am glad they
passed it--is it essentially puts them on record as recognizing the
United States as the transition power in Iraq. But it does not give one
dollar toward the effort of reconstruction. It does not give even one
soldier more from another country.
So we have a long way to go. I think in many ways the Senator from
West Virginia was prescient, because he put in his amendment not just
that the U.N. pass any old resolution, but that the U.N. pass a
resolution that will in fact relieve the burden on our troops and on
our taxpayers.
Senator Byrd and those of us supporting his amendment also say the
administration must certify and report to Congress that our
reconstruction efforts are being carried out in accordance with a
detailed plan that includes
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significant financial assistance from other nations. In short, the Byrd
amendment requires leadership from this administration--leadership from
this administration--and the American people deserve no less. It is
time for leadership.
In addition, the Byrd amendment requires reports to the Congress on
efforts to protect our troops. I made a visit to Walter Reed Hospital
yesterday. It was a very emotional visit. Our troops are extraordinary.
They are incredibly optimistic young people. Each one of them I visited
said had they been in a different type of vehicle, they wouldn't have
lost their limbs, they wouldn't have lost colleagues. Because, as we
have said many times, after the President landed on the aircraft
carrier and he said the major hostilities were over, we did not have a
plan in place and a lot of our people have paid the price of that.
So we are essentially demanding, asking, requesting, that the
President report to the Congress on efforts to protect our troops. We
asked for an estimate of the duration and cost of the military mission
in Iraq. I might say, for many of us who supported the Levin
resolution, we have been asking for that since day one and we really
never had it.
Why do you think the American people took a deep breath when they
heard $87 billion for Iraq? They don't even realize, most of them,
because it slipped through here with a unanimous vote--and at that time
I think rightly so--we already gave $70 billion for Iraq in an
emergency supplemental. So there was $70 billion, now there is $87
billion, and if anyone thinks this is the last of it you are mistaken.
If we do not get a grip on this, this is a policy that is not in
anybody's control. They don't even know who is in control over at the
White House. They sent out a press release that Condi Rice was in
charge of reconstruction. Then Rumsfeld got mad. Then she came out and
said, Well, gee, no, that really wasn't so.
I think Senator Byrd, with all his many years here, his many years
living, and his many years witnessing other administrations, has done
us all a favor by putting together this very important amendment. Many
of us helped put the finishing touches on it. I am very proud of this
amendment.
So we ask the President to send a report to Congress on efforts to
protect our troops, an estimate of the duration and cost of the
military mission in Iraq, an estimated long-term schedule for the
withdrawal of U.S. and foreign troops, and a schedule with timetables
and costs for the establishment of a fully trained and equipped Iraqi
security force.
Why is the Byrd amendment an alternative to be strongly supported? To
me it is clear. It is time to end a blank-check policy. It is time to
end a blank-check policy. Again, we gave $70 billion with absolutely no
strings attached. We didn't stop it. We didn't say anything. We
expected the President at that point would use those dollars and use
the trust the Congress placed in him with that $70 billion to come up
with a plan. We still don't have it.
So clearly we should support this very important amendment as an
alternative to the underlying bill.
Let me give you other reasons. We were misled about post-Saddam Iraq.
There is not one person who is civilized and has a heart and a pulse
that beat who isn't glad Saddam is out of the picture. That has never
been the issue. That has never been the question. The question is, did
we have the right policy so that in the future that part of the world
will be more secure, that we will not have a vacuum where terrorists
move in, and where the United States is not the only country that is
bearing the cost of a post-Saddam Iraq?
The American people--I know I speak for the people of California who
have spoken with me about this and, by the way, I have had well over
1,000 calls on this and it is heavily against the $87 billion--feel for
the Iraqi people, and they want to do their share--underline ``share.''
But they were told the postwar situation would be quite different from
what we are seeing.
Let me quote President Bush's press secretary, Ari Fleischer, who was
press secretary up until recently. This is what he said about
reconstruction:
Well, the reconstruction costs remain . . . an issue for
the future, and Iraq, unlike Afghanistan, is a rather wealthy
country.
I say to my friends on the other side of the aisle and my friends on
this side of the aisle that the spokesperson for the President of the
United States said:
. . . unlike Afghanistan, Iraq is a rather wealthy country.
Still quoting, he said:
Iraq has tremendous resources that belong to the Iraqi
people, and so there are a variety of means that Iraq has to
be able to shoulder much of the burden for their own
reconstruction.
My friends, that was this year. Ari Fleischer was speaking for the
President of the United States who is now putting pressure on us not to
see this reconstruction money become loans. Ari Fleischer said:
. . . Iraq has to be able to shoulder much of the burden
for their own reconstruction.
What did Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz say? I sit on the
Foreign Relations Committee. Let us hear what he said. He said:
There's a lot of money to pay for this that doesn't have to
be U.S. taxpayer money, and it starts with the assets of the
Iraqi people . . . and on a rough recollection, the oil
revenues of that country could bring between $50 and $100
billion over the course of the next two or three years.
Going on, Mr. Wolfowitz, No. 1 in the Defense Department, said:
We're dealing with a country that can really finance its
own reconstruction, and relatively soon.
What are we being told by the manager of this amendment, Senator
Stevens? He is saying the Byrd amendment is awful; it is terrible; it
is going to stop everything; it is a terrible thing. If you think the
Byrd amendment is destructive, why not call Paul Wolfowitz and find out
why on March 27, 2003 he said, ``We're dealing with a country that can
really finance its own reconstruction, and relatively soon''?
Why not call up Ari Fleischer, who spoke to the President and said,
`` . . . unlike Afghanistan, Iraq can pay for its own reconstruction''?
But it doesn't stop there. There is Defense Secretary Donald
Rumsfeld. I am quoting him.
I don't believe that the United States has the
responsibility for reconstruction.
My colleagues, I want to reiterate this. Donald Rumsfeld, No. 1 in
the Department of Defense, said in March of this year:
I don't believe the United States has the responsibility
for reconstruction.
He said:
[Reconstruction] funds can come from . . . frozen assets,
oil revenues and a variety of other things, including the Oil
for Food, which has very substantial number of billions of
dollars in it.
I could have quoted 10 other people from this administration, but
from Secretary Rumsfeld who is a key member of this administration, to
Ari Fleischer who spoke for the President, to Paul Wolfowitz, second in
command at the Department of Defense, they all told us and they told
the American people Iraq could pay for its own reconstruction.
I think the underlying bill is very much another blank check based on
more statements and promises from an administration that led a
brilliant military campaign but was wrong on the weapons of mass
destruction, wrong on what would happen after the war, wrong on what
the rebuilding would cost, wrong on how many troops would be needed,
wrong on oil revenues, and wrong on how much other countries would
contribute. That is just a partial list.
My constituents are very leery of another blank check, given this
history and given the need here at home.
I could not believe this U.S. Senate couldn't walk down the aisle
together, Republicans and Democrats, and take a month's worth of money
for Iraq and spend it in this country of ours. We weren't asking for
much. The Senator from Michigan wrote a brilliant amendment. In it, she
said, All right, we are spending $5 billion in Iraq. The World Bank
tells us they can't really absorb all the money we are budgeting now.
Let us take just 1 month and let us keep our promises to our veterans.
Let us take just 1 month. That is all--$5 billion. We can take care of
our veterans' health. We can take care of our school construction
needs. We can help some people who need health care here in the United
States of America.
No. That went down in flames. We can't do that. We can't afford that.
We can't afford it. After all, we have a deficit. We had a deficit only
after this
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President took office. We had a surplus before he took office. Now this
body won't even pay for this war. They won't even pay for this war.
They make ringing speeches about America, the greatest leader in the
world. And I agree with every speech. But every time America led the
world, we didn't tell the wealthiest few that we will give you more tax
breaks so our sons and daughters can go off.
This amendment says to me everything that needs to be said. It puts
an end to a blank-check mentality. We can't afford another blank check.
We have these pressing needs at home with a deficit that is racing out
of control.
I thank Senator Byrd for his leadership. I have enjoyed working with
him and with his staff, as well as the staff of Senators Leahy and
Kennedy, to put forward an alternative that puts our troops and our
taxpayers ahead of a blank-check policy. I hope we will have a strong
vote.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Graham of South Carolina). Under the
previous order, the Senator from Alaska is recognized.
Mr. STEVENS. Mr. President, I have a management problem. I ask
unanimous consent that the vote on this amendment not occur before 3
o'clock.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection? Without objection, it is
so ordered.
Mr. STEVENS. I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Vermont.
Mr. LEAHY. Mr. President, I am an original cosponsor of this
amendment, and I strongly support it. I will not take a great deal of
time. But Senator Byrd and Senator Kennedy, two senior Members of the
Senate--actually the two most senior Members of this Senate--have been
such resolute voices of reason and caution concerning our actions in
Iraq. Senator Kennedy and Senator Byrd have done a thorough job of
explaining what this amendment does and why it is important.
There is no secret that I did not support the resolution authorizing
the use of military force against Iraq. I felt it gave the President
authority that should be reserved to the Congress. It was used by the
President to justify abandoning the United Nations prematurely,
rejecting the recommendation of our allies, and launching a unilateral
preemptive attack against Iraq with dubious justification.
Since then, almost everything the White House and the Pentagon have
said about Iraq has turned out to be wrong. The justification for the
war, that Saddam Hussein was on the verge of having nuclear weapons,
has evaporated. There was no link between Saddam Hussein and the
September 11 attacks despite what the President said--until recently.
While the Vice President continues to try to make the connection, at
least the President has finally said there is no connection.
Is Saddam Hussein a bad man? Of course, one of the most evil people I
have ever read or heard about. Amazingly enough, it is the same Saddam
Hussein we strongly supported in many ways in previous administrations.
Is he a tyrant? Certainly. Did he carry out torture and genocide? Of
course he did. He gassed the Kurds. The then Reagan-Bush administration
continued to send military aid. Is he a bad man? Yes, we all agree on
that.
Did he have nuclear weapons? Of course not. Was he an imminent threat
to the United States? Of course not. Was he worse than some of
dictators we actively support around the world today? That is an open
question.
Now we have a different question, as the senior Senator from West
Virginia and the senior Senator from Massachusetts and others have
pointed out: The cost to the United States taxpayers in rebuilding
Iraq. We were told that would be paid with Iraqi oil revenues. But
suddenly that cost has skyrocketed. Our troops, we were told, would be
greeted as liberators. They are under constant attack and threat of
attack.
I remember when the administration came before the Congress and said
the costs of rebuilding would be under a couple billion dollars. They
assured Members, assured the Appropriations Committee of that. They had
to know they were not being truthful.
Look at what has happened. Hundreds of our service personnel have
been killed, many more have been wounded, something the administration
prefers not to talk about. The wounded are brought back after midnight,
making sure the press does not see the planes coming in with the
wounded. They were not talking about wounded. These are not a broken
wrist or scratched leg. These are terrible wounds--lost limbs, lost
eyesight, lifetime disabilities. I think of the soldier who fought
bravely for the United States who is back in Walter Reed now finally
getting his citizenship. He raised his right hand to take the oath.
That was the only limb he could raise. He lost his other arm and both
legs, like our former colleague, Senator Cleland, in Vietnam. These are
terrible wounds.
We have lost more of our military since the President said the
mission was accomplished, the war is over, than we did before. We have
lost more of our soldiers since the President said: Bring it on.
Unfortunately, they must have listened because they brought it on and
more Americans have died since then than died before.
Having said that, I am not one of those who say everything in Iraq is
a failure. I do not say that at all. We are far from that. We are
making progress in Iraq on many fronts. But the situation is dangerous.
We are there virtually alone. Contributions of troops and money from
other nations have been a pittance. But who can blame them? We ignored
the words of caution from our allies. We dismissed our allies as
irrelevant. We called them ``Old Europe,'' and we refused to give them
any meaningful say in the political development or economic
reconstruction of Iraq. Now, having insulted them, having ignored them,
having not consulted them, having brushed them aside as irrelevant, we
expect them to jump behind a policy they opposed when they find that so
many of the things we said to justify our policy turned out not to be
true? It is not surprising they are not hurrying to get in line behind
us.
This amendment of Senator Byrd, Senator Kennedy, myself and others,
acknowledges what is obvious to everyone except perhaps those in the
White House who are so convinced of their own version of reality that
they only see what they want to see. We need help. We need the active
involvement of the international community. In order to get that active
involvement of the international community, we need to give these
nations a bigger say in rebuilding Iraq and doing so to take the
targets off the backs of our soldiers and defray the financial cost to
the American taxpayers. We cannot take the attitude that uncle knows
best and only uncle knows. We want others to help us if we want to be
in a position to take our brave young men and women out of the line of
fire.
This is essential, not only for the success of our policy in Iraq but
for our ability to work constructively with other nations in all the
other fights we have in fighting terrorism, in combating poverty, in
stopping disease, in protecting the environment, in dealing with so
many other global problems. We are the wealthiest, most powerful nation
history has ever known. It is almost inconceivable--even when I was
born, 1940--that we would have any nation as powerful as we are. But we
have responsibilities around the world that go with that. It is not
just Iraq.
There is an AIDS epidemic; there are contagious diseases, including
ebola; there is ignorance, poverty, environmental damage. All of these
things need U.S. leadership--not leadership arrogance but U.S.
leadership. The American people are good people. The American people
have the heart and the will to do what is best.
The American people do not need to have leaders who show arrogance.
That is not the American way. I think of the young people who go in the
Peace Corps; I think of the young missionaries who go abroad; I think
of the teachers, of the older retired people going to other parts of
the world to help out. They do not go with arrogance, they do not go
with simplistic answers; they go with humbleness, respect, and love.
This amendment allows half the Iraq reconstruction funds, $10.1
billion, more than can be spent next year, to be made available
immediately. In other words, this amendment would get that money out
the door with no strings attached. Putting this in perspective, $10.1
billion is equal to more than half the amount of foreign aid we give to
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the rest of the world, and we will give that amount of money to one
country immediately. The $10.1 billion includes $5.1 billion for
security, public safety, border enforcement, and justice activities.
The balance of the $10 billion will be released after April 1, 2004, if
the President certifies that the United Nations adopted a new
resolution authorizing a multinational military force of the United
States command and a central role for the U.N. in the political and
economic development of Iraq, but the Congress would have to vote to
release the balance of the funds.
Over a quarter of a century ago, I went on the Appropriations
Committee because I believed very strongly--and I don't have to tell
the senior Senator from West Virginia who has forgotten more about this
than all the rest of us would know--I believe very strongly the
Congress has the power of the purse. It is one of those wonderful,
brilliant acts done by our Founders to have these checks and balances--
our judiciary, executive, our Congress. It has served us in good stead.
Has the Congress always been right? Of course not. Has the executive
or judiciary always been right? No. But generally it stays in balance
and it works very well. The big mistake would be if we just gave it
away, if we said that the American people do not have a voice so we
would have to vote to release the balance of these funds.
This is extremely generous. But the reason I mentioned the power of
the purse is that we have a duty to protect the taxpayers' money.
In this Senate, there are only 100 of us who have the privilege to
serve--and it is a privilege--at any given time. We have 270 million
Americans. We have a responsibility--a responsibility--not just to
Americans from Vermont or West Virginia or anywhere else but to all
Americans. It is their money.
Now, none of us could predict what is going to happen in Iraq between
now and April first. It makes no sense to bundle up this $21 billion
and toss it out the door, without ever asking questions--whether the
funds are being used wisely, whether other nations are contributing,
and whether it makes sense to release another $10 billion.
It is absurd. It is totally unnecessary. It is not only absurd, it is
unnecessary. This is the thing I cannot understand: Why are we rushing
pell-mell to give away $21 billion lock, stock, and barrel, all at
once? Every one of the administration's own people say they cannot
spend it. They want it, but they cannot spend it. It is like ``give me,
give me, give me, and I will make up my mind when I want to spend it.''
I would hate to run my household finances that way.
We should not run the Nation's finances that way. It is not the way
it was done with the Marshall plan. Everyone comes up here from the
administration and talks about the Marshall plan, the Marshall plan,
the Marshall plan. I wish one of them would pick up a history book and
read about the Marshall plan. The way they describe it, I don't think
they could even spell it.
There was far more detailed justification for the Marshall plan, far
more opportunity for review, far more oversight. Let's learn from
history, especially if we are going to claim to repeat it.
I am tired of historical sloganeering by people who obviously have no
idea what the heck they are talking about. For the Marshall plan, we
had hundreds of witnesses. That was several years after the end of
World War II. We had special bipartisan committees that really worked
at overseeing that plan.
When I first came to the Senate, I talked to some of the Members who
had been here at that time. They were watching what was going on. They
knew what was going on. And it was not a blank check. It was not a
blank check. It was, however, one thing: We worked with other
countries. We led the effort, of course. We worked with other
countries.
I think it is long past time that we should reach out to our friends
and allies, not with this fig-leaf resolution being discussed at the
U.N. this week--and that is all it is; it is a PR fig leaf--but in a
way that builds a genuine coalition that is no longer a unilateral
policy.
I want to be fair. The U.N. resolution to be voted on today is
welcome. It sets the stage. That is what it does. It is a stage-setting
piece for what should have been months ago, by recognizing the key role
that other nations can and should play in Iraq.
It would authorize a multinational military force. It would encourage
other nations to participate and make contributions to the force and to
the costs of reconstruction in Iraq.
It also makes clear that the Coalition Provisional Authority is
temporary. That is something on which I believe all Members of the
Senate, Republican and Democrat alike, would agree. It has to be
temporary.
So it is a step in the right direction, but it is basically a
statement of good intentions. There is nothing wrong with good
intentions, but I think some of us who have been here for a few years
would like more than just good intentions. We have no idea how it is
going to be interpreted by the White House, which has resisted
meaningful input from other nations, nor how it is going to be
implemented.
Will the multinational force be anything more than a fig leaf for an
indefinite U.S. military operation involving more than 100,000 troops,
as it is today--100,000 American troops over there facing the danger of
being killed every single day? Will other nations contribute or will
U.S. taxpayers continue to shoulder 99 percent of the cost?
Mr. President, save me the stories I hear from the administration
about 30 countries, 40 countries joining us. I think there is one
country that has sent over two people. Of course, we had to pay their
way. Others were willing to send a few thousand dollars. But as ranking
member of the Appropriations Subcommittee on Foreign Operations, I know
we are going to have to pay more than that in foreign aid they all
want. I do not want fig leaves. I do not want rhetoric. I want reality.
Right now, the reality is, we are paying 99 percent of the cost. Is
the administration going to give us a detailed plan, including
timetables and cost? How about an exit strategy for when our troops
will come home? That is what I would like to know. We do not know. We
do not know what is going to come out of that.
It is good to have, at least, a resolution that says nice things. It
does not do an awful lot, but it says a lot of nice things at the
United Nations. But I am not a member of the United Nations. I am not a
delegate to the United Nations. I am the senior Senator from the State
of Vermont. I am here to speak on behalf of the people of the United
States in the U.S. Senate. That is my role. I have one vote here out of
100. I take that very seriously.
This amendment is extremely important. It builds on the U.N.
resolution. It requires tangible results, not just good intentions. If
the U.N. resolution accomplishes what it says, the President should
have no difficulty making the certifications called for in this
amendment.
We need to know if the U.N. resolution represents the
``internationalization'' of policy long overdue or if it is nothing
more than political cover to maintain the status quo, to continue along
as we are today--alone, with our troops under fire and U.S. taxpayers
paying through the nose.
And then we need to vote on whether to release the remaining $10
billion. There is no reason--there is none--there is not one word in
all the testimony before the other body or before ours that says they
need this other $10 billion right now--not one word that says we should
not have another chance to review this policy and vote again in 6
months. That is the responsible thing to do. Again, they cannot spend
the money now.
So our amendment steers a middle ground. It releases half of the aid
up front, but it tells the administration we want a multilateral
approach. We want other nations involved, and not just nations that can
only contribute enough troops for a small town police force or provide
a handful of secondhand jeeps.
I admire the political will of some of these small countries in
sending people over. From my own State of Vermont, we have sheriffs
departments that are bigger than some of the forces they are sending.
That does not detract from their political will in doing it. It is a
nice symbol, but let's not fool anybody.
I think the administration takes a strange view of Americans if they
think we are going to be fooled by this.
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Virtually every American knows who is paying the bill. We Americans
are.
So this amendment is in Iraq's interest. It is certainly in the
interest of the American taxpayers, something we should be concerned
about.
I am very proud of my friend, the senior Senator from West Virginia,
for offering the amendment. I have had the privilege of serving with
him for 29 years. I have learned as much from him as any one in the
hundreds of people I have served with in this body, right from the very
first day I met him as a young Senator elect, as a former prosecutor.
I think of my good friend from New England, the senior Senator from
Massachusetts, a man I first met back when he was a brand-new Senator
and I was a seminew prosecutor in Vermont.
I think what the two Senators have done is go back to history and
back to reality and set a good course. Our country will actually be
stronger and better and, ironically, the Iraq reconstruction will be
done better, if we follow their course.
Mr. President, I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Massachusetts.
Mr. KENNEDY. Mr. President, I join in thanking our good friend and
cosponsor, the Senator from Vermont, for his excellent presentation and
compelling argument. And I, once again, thank our leader on this issue,
and someone who has been such an eloquent voice for sane and
responsible foreign policy for so many years, and particularly in the
whole debate on Iraq, our friend from West Virginia, Senator Byrd.
I think it is important at this time to understand exactly what this
amendment is and what it is not.
The Byrd amendment is not cutting the $20 billion. There have been
other amendments that have suggested that and have done so. This
amendment is not doing that. The purpose of this amendment is plain and
simple: This is the only amendment that has been offered--and I believe
will be offered--that is going to require a change of course in our
policy in Iraq and give us the opportunity in 6 months to have a chance
to review the administration.
As pointed out by the Senator from California, otherwise, with this
$87 billion, we are effectively giving a blank check and a statement
that we support the current policy, which I believe is a bankrupt
policy, one that is being made up every day. I spoke earlier on it.
One of the reasons the amendment of the Senator from West Virginia is
so responsible and compelling is, first, the World Bank has estimated
that Iraq could only use $6 billion over the next year. He is letting
$10 billion go, $5 billion for security, but the other $5 billion. Over
a 6-month period the World Bank says the most Iraq could use is $6
billion. This is going to let $10 billion go for 6 months. All we are
saying is, perhaps after that 6 months, the rest of the money would be
freed up as well. But at least we here, as the people's
representatives, will have a chance to review the bidding at that
particular time.
I listened to our friend--and he is our friend--from Alaska say we
ought to stay the course. I believe we ought to stay the right course.
That is what we are talking about--staying the right course which is in
the interest of the security of our troops and of the United States.
Others are saying: Why not just give us a blank check?
The Senator from West Virginia remembers clearly, as ranking member
on the Appropriations Committee, it was not long ago when
administration officials said: We don't need any money at all in terms
of reconstruction. Iraq is a wealthy country. The oil revenues will be
able to handle it. Three months ago they said: We think maybe $1.7
billion will be able to handle it over the next year. Now they ask for
$20 billion and say: Stay the course; why are you trying to interfere
with us?
They have been moving these numbers all around and failing to give a
full plan. Yes, they gave us some working documents from last year and,
yes, they gave us a budget but not the plan. The wisdom of the Senator
from West Virginia is the fact that it is going to require that the
administration come back in 6 months and give us an opportunity to
review.
Finally, as the Senator from Vermont has pointed out, the $20 billion
for reconstruction is what the United States provides for economic aid
for the rest of the countries all over the world. This is not an
insignificant amount. The American people understand that. It is 20
times what the Federal Government spends annually on afterschool
programs, 20 times. This $20 billion is 20 times what we spend on
afterschool programs that reach hundreds of thousands of children,
helping them get the supplementary services which are so important in
terms of their education, giving them outlets in terms of participation
in sports. This $20 billion is 20 times that amount.
It is also double the amount that this President proposed on
education to assist the schools. This $20 billion is effectively twice
as much as we are providing in K-12 federal spending on the title I
education program for disadvantaged children. We know how important
that is.
It is over two times the amount we spend in helping those who have
special needs. It is four times what the Government spends on cancer
research. This is not an insignificant amount of resources.
The only thing the Senator from West Virginia is saying is: Let's get
another look at it in 6 months. Why should the administration be so
opposed to that? Doesn't it make sense, in terms of our national
interests, to galvanize the country in support of foreign policy? Are
the people who are allegedly supporting whatever this policy is so
uncertain about what is going to happen in 6 months from now, they say,
don't do that; you are going to interfere and obstruct our whole effort
by coming back to the Congress and permitting them to make a judgment
in 6 months? That is apparently what they are prepared to do.
I commend the Senator from West Virginia. I know from personal
experience the amount of time and effort and energy and thought that
has gone into this amendment. This is the one amendment that says: We
are giving you 6 months to move ahead. That is sufficient to meet the
vital needs at the present time. And we are prepared to give you 6
months after that, in March-April of next year, when the Congress will
be back and prepared to vote. But at that time at least we will know,
at that time the American people will know that there are going to be
other nations that will be a part of the team, that are going to be
supplying resources, that are going to be supplying additional troops.
We will be able to indicate to the American service men and women an
end strategy, an exit strategy.
I was asked a couple of hours ago about mentioning the exit strategy;
doesn't this just suggest we are talking about cutting and running?
That is not what we are talking about. We are talking about being
sensible and responsible.
Actually the words ``exit strategy'' were included in the foreign
affairs article that was written by Brent Scowcroft and former
President Bush, Bush 1, to which I referred earlier. He was talking
about what the alternatives were at the end of the first gulf war. He
was pointing out that this was a world transformed, President George
H.W. Bush and his National Security Adviser, Brent Scowcroft, in their
joint memoir on the experiences of the gulf war in 1991.
There was no viable exit strategy that we could see.
That was former President Bush 1, ``no viable exit strategy that we
could see.''
He believed at the time of the first gulf war we ought to have an
exit strategy that we could see.
We haven't got that. It is not in the $87 billion. What the amendment
of the Senator from West Virginia is saying is, OK, it is not in there.
OK, it is not in the $20 billion. But let's come back in 6 months and
we will have a chance to see where we are.
I commend the Senator for offering his amendment. I hope our
colleagues will give it strong support.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from West Virginia.
Mr. BYRD. Mr. President, I wish to express appreciation to the other
Senators who have spoken in support of this amendment: Senator Kennedy,
Senator Leahy, Senator Boxer. There are some other cosponsors of the
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amendment who may or may not wish to speak on it: Senators Harkin,
Durbin, Jeffords, and Kerry.
The amendment provides that not more than $5 billion may be obligated
or expended before April 1, 2004, from the total of $20.3 billion.
It provides that the excess of the total amount so appropriated over
$5 billion may not be obligated or expended after April 1, 2004. We are
talking about $10 billion of the $20 billion--$10 billion may not be
obligated or expended after April 1, unless, 1, the President submits
to Congress in writing certain certifications and unless Congress
enacts an appropriations law, other than this act, that authorizes the
expenditure of such funds.
Keep in mind, I say to Senators, the $5.1 billion provided under the
heading ``Iraq Relief and Reconstruction Fund for Security,'' including
public safety requirements, national security, and justice, which
includes funds for Iraqi border enforcement, and so on--keep in mind
that these moneys are not affected. They will go forward to Iraq--the
$5.1 billion for the Iraq Relief and Reconstruction Fund for Security.
They will go forward immediately, and $5 billion of the remaining $15
billion may be spent before April 1, 2004. The passage of this bill
would provide for such expenditures. But the remaining $10 billion
would not, could not be obligated before April 1, 2004, and may not be
obligated or expended after April 1, 2004, unless the President submits
to Congress in writing certain certifications described in the
amendment and Congress enacts an appropriations law, other than this
act, that authorizes the obligation and expenditure of the remainder of
the fund.
Now, the certifications that have to be provided by the President of
the United States before the remaining $10 billion may be expended are
as follows, in brief: a certification that the U.N. Security Council
has adopted a resolution that authorizes a multinational security force
under United States leadership for post-Saddam Hussein Iraq and
provides for a central role for the U.N. in the political and economic
development and reconstruction of Iraq; and the President must also
certify that there must result a substantially increased contribution
of military forces and amounts of money by other countries to assist in
the restoration of security in Iraq and the reconstruction of Iraq.
There must be a certification by the President that the United States
reconstruction activities in Iraq are being successfully implemented in
accordance with a detailed plan, which includes fixed timetables and
costs and with a significant commitment of financial assistance from
other countries, so that the American taxpayer does not have to
continue to bear all the burden; a detailed plan that provides for the
establishment of economic and political stability in Iraq, including
prompt restoration of basic services, such as water and electrical
services; the adoption of a democratic constitution in Iraq, the
holding of local and national elections in Iraq, the establishment of a
democratically elected government in Iraq that has broad public
support, and the establishment of Iraqi security and armed forces that
are fully trained and appropriately equipped and are able to defend
Iraq and carry out other security duties without the involvement of the
United States Armed Forces--so that American men and women who are
bearing the military burden there today can come home.
Additionally, not later than March 1, 2004, the President shall
submit to Congress a report on United States and foreign country
involvement in Iraq that includes the following information:
1, the number of military personnel from other countries that are
supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom, together with an estimate of the
number of such personnel to be in place in Iraq for that purpose on May
1, 2004;
2, the total amounts of financial donations pledged and paid by other
countries for the reconstruction of Iraq;
3, a description of the economic, political, and military situation
in Iraq, including the number, the type, and location of attacks on
coalition, U.N., and Iraqi military public safety and civilian
personnel in the 60 days preceding the date of the report;
4, a description of the measures taken to protect United States
military personnel serving in Iraq;
5, a detailed plan containing fixed timetables and costs for
establishing civil, economic, and political security in Iraq, including
restoration of basic services, such as water and electricity services;
6, an estimate of the total number of United States and foreign
military personnel that are necessary in the short term and in the long
term to bring to Iraq stability and security for its reconstruction,
including the prevention of sabotage that impedes the reconstruction
efforts;
7, an estimate of the duration of the United States military presence
in Iraq and the levels of United States military personnel strength
that will be necessary for that presence for each of the future 6-month
periods, together with a rotation plan for combat divisions, combat
support units, and combat service support units;
8, an estimate of the total cost to the United States of the military
presence in Iraq that includes, A, the estimated incremental cost of
the United States Active-Duty Forces deployed in Iraq and neighboring
countries; B, the estimated cost of United States Reserve component
forces mobilized for service in Iraq and in neighboring countries; C,
the estimated cost of replacing United States military equipment being
used in Iraq; D, the estimated cost of support to be provided by the
United States to foreign troops in Iraq;
Furthermore, an estimate of the total financial cost of the
reconstruction of Iraq together with, A, an estimate of the percentage
of such costs that would be paid by the United States and a detailed
accounting specified for major categories of cost and, B, the amounts
of contributions pledged and paid by other countries, specified in
major categories;
10, a strategy for securing significant additional international
financial support for the construction of Iraq, including a discussion
of the plan for implementing the strategy;
11, a schedule including fixed timetables and costs for the
establishment of Iraqi security and armed forces that are fully trained
and appropriately equiped and are able to defend Iraq and carry out
other security duties without the involvement of the United States
Armed Forces;
12, an estimated schedule for the withdrawal of United States and
foreign armed forces from Iraq; so here we have a requirement in the
report that is to be submitted by the President, an estimated schedule
for the withdrawal of United States and foreign armed forces from Iraq;
13, an estimated schedule for the adoption of a democratic
constitution in Iraq, the holding of democratic local and national
elections in Iraq, the establishment of a democratically elected
government in Iraq that has broad public support;
And, finally, the timely withdrawal of United States and foreign
armed forces from Iraq.
Every 90 days, after the submission of this report, under subsection
C, the President shall submit to Congress an update of that report. The
requirement for updates under the preceding sentence shall terminate
upon the withdrawal of the United States Armed Forces other than
diplomatic security detachment personnel from Iraq. The report and
updates shall be submitted in unclassified form.
Here at last is a requirement that the President provide a report to
the Congress and to the American people, information the Congress has
needed and requested but which has been denied thus far.
This amendment would require that the President make these
certifications I have mentioned and that he submit a report which
outlines the various provisions I have read and, in the final analysis,
he has to submit a timetable for the withdrawal of American men and
women from Iraq.
It is time for the U.N. to get in and the U.S. to get out. That is
what this amendment would require, in essence. The amendment would help
save American lives. It would ease the Iraqi fears that America is
following a policy of compassionate colonialism. This amendment moves
reconstruction forward. This amendment moves Iraq forward. This
amendment brings the world together in the overall peace effort on
those distant sands.
This amendment would put in motion a plan--a real plan--that would
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peace more quickly and stability more assuredly, and it would say to
the people of Iraq that the United States is your friend, not your
sovereign.
Mr. President, I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Iowa.
Mr. HARKIN. Mr. President, the pending amendment offered by the
ranking member of the Appropriations Committee, the distinguished
Senator from West Virginia, Mr. Byrd, Senator Kennedy, myself, and
others, I believe is key as to whether this bill includes any real
measure of accountability to Congress and, thus, to the American people
for this country's policy in Iraq.
This is essentially similar to an amendment I had offered during the
committee markup. We had an excellent substantive debate in the
committee, and we are having I hope again today a debate on
accountability of this administration.
I thank Senator Byrd for his tremendous leadership on this issue. I
thank the chairman of our full committee, Senator Stevens, for
permitting us again--I know at some point he will want to move to
table, but I thank him for allowing us to have this time to have our
say and make our points about why we feel so strongly that this
amendment should be adopted.
The amendment allows funding for our military needs in Iraq and
Afghanistan. The amendment we are debating allows $10.1 billion for
Iraqi relief and reconstruction over the next 6 months, until April of
2004; $5.1 billion of that is set aside for police and military
training in Iraq and about $5 billion would be for reconstruction aid.
I note the $5 billion is the amount of reconstruction aid the World
Bank believes Iraq can absorb over the next full year, let alone in
just 6 months.
Further taxpayer funding for Iraq beyond that $10.1 billion would be
contingent on important accountability to Congress and the American
public. In order to receive Iraqi relief reconstruction funding beyond
the $10.1 billion, the President would have to certify to Congress that
the U.N. has adopted a new resolution authorizing a multinational
military force in Iraq under U.S. command. The President would also
have to certify that he has a concrete plan for stabilization and
democracy in Iraq, with fixed timetables and cost estimates, and the
President would have to submit a report to Congress detailing the
international support for our efforts in Iraq, both in terms of money
and troops, as well as a report indicating troop levels and duration
for our involvement in Iraq. In other words, what is our exit strategy?
Finally, and most important, this amendment would say there must be
an additional vote taken by Congress before we spend any more money.
Again, I have listened to our ranking member, my good friend from
West Virginia, many times in this Chamber talk about the Founding
Fathers and how smart they were and how they wanted to balance the
powers in this country so we did not have a dictator or king or someone
who could run amok with the public treasury. That is why the clause in
the Constitution that gives us control over the purse strings is so
important.
The intention of the Founding Fathers, at least as far as I have come
to understand and read in my history books, is they did not mean to
give us the purse strings so we could open it up and dump money into
the White House. They wanted us to be accountable to the American
people for every dime that was spent; that we had to keep a tight pull
on those purse strings, parcel that money out in a deliberative manner
so that no President--Democrat, Republican, Independent, or whatever--
would be given a blank check with the taxpayers' dollars.
This amendment is in keeping with the best traditions and intentions
of our Founding Fathers and keeping our faith with the Constitution of
the United States in being diligent at controlling the purse strings of
taxpayers' dollars.
I just cannot explain why the administration is so stubborn in
resisting even this most commonsense accountability. They are insisting
on a blank check. Again, even the World Bank says we cannot spend any
more money than that $5 billion in a year. Yet they want $21 billion.
When people like me and the Senator from West Virginia and others raise
questions about accountability, the administration, in effect, is
saying: Trust me. That is exactly the line we heard before the war in
Iraq.
I admit publicly--it is on the record--one year ago I voted for the
Iraq war resolution because I opted to trust the President. I opted to
give him the benefit of the doubt. In the lead-up to the war, the
President's approach boiled down to two words: Trust me. Trust me that
Saddam is in cahoots with al-Qaida because we have that information, he
said.
Trust me that Iraq has vast stockpiles of chemical and biological
weapons and weapons of mass destruction and the means to deliver them.
Trust me, said the President, that postwar reconstruction will be
self-financing because Iraq has fabulous oil wells.
Trust me, said the President, that we have a serious plan to manage
postwar Iraq.
And today the administration dares to say one more time: Trust me
that this $20 billion for reconstruction is absolutely necessary, and
that if you will only give us a blank check, we will spend it wisely.
There was a story on the front section of the business section of
today's New York Times which illustrates how this vast amount of
money--if not diligently looked at, if we don't keep a tight rein on
those purse strings--can boil down to what in World War I and World War
II was called war profiteering.
The business section of the New York Times this morning showed that
Halliburton, for example, was making over 66 cents a gallon on fuel
that it was selling to the United States government for use in Iraq,
and we were paying them for it. We are paying them these profits. It
showed how much Halliburton was spending, up to $1.70 a gallon for fuel
when they could have gotten the same fuel in the region for basically
66 cents less a gallon. Where is that money going? We don't know.
That is the problem with all of this money floating around: Trust me,
the administration says. As the old saying goes, there is no education
in the second kick of a mule. Quite frankly, I admit publicly I have
been kicked repeatedly by this administration's mule saying, Trust me.
A few years ago, the administration pushed through this No Child Left
Behind bill for education. The President said: Trust me, we will come
up with the resources to make sure it works. Now we have the mandates
but we do not have the resources.
Trust me, they said, that we will have the evidence that Saddam
Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, chemical and biological
weapons, the means to deliver them, that he had connections with al-
Qaida. We now know none of this is true.
I am basically here today saying, Not this time around; I am not
willing to give a blank check; I insist on a measure of basic
accountability.
I recall President Reagan's policy with regard to arms control.
Remember what he said? He said, Trust but verify, and that is exactly
the purpose of this amendment. It allows $10.1 billion for Iraqi
reconstruction through the end of March 2004. Further funding would be
contingent on two things: The President must certify to Congress that
the U.N. has adopted a new resolution authorizing a multinational
military force in Iraq under United States command; and, two, the
President must certify that he has a coherent plan for the
reconstruction of Iraq, including a significant commitment of financial
assistance from other nations. In short, trust but verify, no blank
check.
The administration will be on notice that additional money for Iraq
reconstruction will not be automatic. The President first must come
forward with a coherent plan to internationalize the occupation of
Iraq, to stabilize and democratize Iraq, and then bring our troops home
as soon as possible.
Everyone is talking about ``supporting our troops,'' and certainly we
want to do everything we can to support our troops. At issue is, how do
we best support the troops?
The Stars and Stripes, the newspaper all of us relied upon during our
tenure in the military, has just released a poll showing that one-half
of the troops surveyed say their unit's morale is low in Iraq. Almost
50 percent say it is very unlikely or not likely that they will
reenlist when their term is up. According
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to Stars and Stripes, a key reason for this dissatisfaction is:
Uncertainty about when they will be returning home.
Let me be clear, nothing will be better in terms of support for our
troops than to compel this administration at long last to
internationalize the reconstruction efforts in Iraq, to
internationalize the military involvement in Iraq. As the distinguished
Senator from West Virginia has said many times, it is time to get the
U.N. in and the U.S. out. That, along with a clear and credible exit
strategy from Iraq, is how we best support our troops, who are risking
their lives every day, separated from their friends and their families,
many of them not continuing with their education, not knowing when they
are going to come home, performing duties for which really they were
not trained.
The Byrd amendment is the amendment that supports our troops, and
that is why it should be adopted.
I yield the floor.
Amendments Nos. 1832, 1853, 1865, and 1866
Mr. STEVENS. Mr. President, both sides have cleared for approval four
amendments that I ask be considered en bloc. The first is amendment No.
1832 by Senator Feingold. The second is amendment No. 1853. The other
two have not been filed. I send the amendments to the desk on behalf of
Senator Hollings and Senator Durbin, and I ask unanimous consent that
these four amendments be considered en bloc. They are primarily
technical in nature.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered. The clerk
will report.
The assistant legislative clerk read as follows:
The Senator from Alaska [Mr. Stevens], for Mr. Hollings,
proposes an amendment numbered 1865.
The Senator from Alaska [Mr. Stevens], for Mr. Durbin,
proposes an amendment numbered 1866.
Mr. STEVENS. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the reading
of the amendments be dispensed with.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
The amendments were agreed to en bloc, as follows:
amendment no. 1832
(Purpose: To require reports on Iraqi oil production and revenues to be
made available to the public in English and in Arabic)
On page 35, line 14, strike ``available,'' and insert
``available in both English and Arabic,''.
amendment no. 1853
On page 6, before the period on line 12, insert the
following:
: Provided further, not less than $4,000,000 shall be
transferred to ``Office of the Inspector General'' for
financial and performance audits of funds apportioned to the
Department of Defense from the Iraq Relief and Reconstruction
Fund''
On page 24, line 14, insert after $4,000,000 the following:
``of which not less than $4,000,000 shall be transferred to
and merged with ``Operating Expenses of the United States
Agency for International Development Office of Inspector
General'' for financial and performance audits of the Iraq
Relief and Reconstruction Fund and other assistance to Iraq''
On page 38, after line 20, insert the following:
``SEC. 2313. GENERAL ACCOUNTING OFFICE REVIEW.
(a) The Comptroller General of the United States shall--
(1) review the effectiveness of relief and reconstruction
activities conducted by the Coalition Provisional Authority
(hereafter in this section ``CPA'') from funds made available
under the ``Iraq Relief and Reconstruction Fund'' in this
title, including by providing analyses of--
(A) the degree to which the CPA is meeting the relief and
reconstruction goals and objectives in the major sectors
funded under this title, and is enhancing indigenous
capabilities:
(B) compliance by the CPA and the government departments
with federal laws governing competition in contracting; and
(C) the degree to which the CPA is expending funds
economically and efficiently, including through use of local
contractors;
(2) report quarterly to the appropriate congressional
committees on the results of the review conducted under
paragraph (1).
(b) In this section, the term ``appropriate congressional
committees'' means--
(1) the Committees of Appropriations, Armed Services, and
Foreign Relations of the Senate; and
(2) the Committees of Appropriations, Armed Services, and
International Relations of the House of Representatives.
amendment no. 1865
(Purpose: To clarify the fiscal year limitation in a provision of the
Public Law 108-11)
Paragraph (1) of section 1314 of Public Law 108-11 is
amended by inserting ``without fiscal year limitation'' after
``available'' the first place it appears.
amendment no. 1866
(Purpose: To require quarterly reports on the status of the efforts of
the Iraq Survey Group to account for the Iraq weapons of mass
destruction programs)
At the end of title I, insert the following:
Sec. 316. (a) Findings.--Congress makes the following
findings:
(1) The Iraq Survey Group is charged with investigating the
weapons of mass destruction programs of Iraq.
(2) The Special Advisor to the Director of Central
Intelligence for Strategy and Iraq heads the efforts of the
Iraq Survey Group.
(b) Quarterly Reports on Status of Efforts of Iraq Survey
Group.--Not later than January 1, 2004, and every three
months thereafter through September 30, 2004, the Special
Advisor to the Director of Central Intelligence for Strategy
and Iraq shall submit to the appropriate committees of
Congress a comprehensive written report on the status of the
efforts of the Iraq Survey Group to account for the programs
of Iraq on weapons of mass destruction and related delivery
systems.
(c) Form of Report.--Each report required by subsection (b)
shall be submitted in both classified and unclassified form.
(d) Appropriate Committees of Congress Defined.--In this
section, the term ``appropriate committees of Congress''
means--
(1) the Select Committee on Intelligence and the
Subcommittee on Defense of the Committee on Appropriations of
the Senate; and
(2) the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and the
Subcommittee on defense of the Committee on Appropriations of
the House of Representatives.
Mr. STEVENS. Mr. President, I move to reconsider the vote, and I move
to lay that motion on the table.
The motion to lay on the table was agreed to.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. STEVENS. Mr. President, we are trying to go back and forth here.
Senator Warner has an amendment he would like to offer. After that, I
understand Senator Lautenberg has an amendment to offer.
At the moment, there is another Senator on the floor. I see that the
current occupant of the chair might be interested in a comment he
wishes to make about some Cubs. I asked him if they were little bears,
but he said no.
I yield 5 minutes of our time to the Senator from Illinois, if he
would agree to that amount of time, to talk about the Cubs.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there an objection?
Mr. STEVENS. The current occupant of the chair may not consent to
that.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Do I have a right to object?
The Senator from Nevada.
Mr. REID. It is my understanding that Senator Durbin is going to
speak for 5 minutes. We are going to move to set aside for Senator
Warner and, following that, move to set aside for Senator Lautenberg.
Is that right?
Mr. STEVENS. That is right. I do not know if he is going to call up
his amendment or just file it, but in any event, yes, we are prepared
to do that.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Illinois is recognized.
Mr. REID. Before we go to Senator Durbin, will the Chair approve the
unanimous consent request that was propounded?
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection?
Mr. STEVENS. Reserving the right to object, the Senator from New York
also wants to do something.
Mr. SCHUMER. Reserving the right to object, I have an amendment which
I know is not yet in the queue, but after Senator Durbin speaks, I
would also like to speak for 5 minutes about the tragedy that happened
in New York. I was going to ask to do that later but it seems an
appropriate time, and I ask unanimous consent to be able to do that,
and only that, for 5 minutes.
Mr. STEVENS. We would have no objection to a statement about that
very serious accident that happened in the Senator's State.
It is my understanding it would be 5 minutes for Senator Durbin, 5
minutes for Senator Schumer, and then we return to Senator Warner.
Following Senator Warner, we would go to Senator Lautenberg.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection?
Mr. REID. Mr. President, the only thing I would like to ask before we
get started is, does the Senator from Alaska think the Presiding
Officer is qualified to speak about baseball?
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Mr. STEVENS. I would say to the Senator from Nevada, I have heard the
current occupant of the chair talk about some of his experiences in
baseball and one of these days we ought to convene the Senate and
listen to him for a while.
Mr. REID. I would like that very much.
Mr. STEVENS. There is some marvelous history we could learn from the
Senator about baseball, but I am out of order.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Yes.
Mr. STEVENS. Has the unanimous consent request been agreed to?
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered. The
Senator from Illinois is recognized.
Mr. WARNER. Will the Chair recount, for the benefit of the Senate,
the order that has just been accepted.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The order that has just been accepted is
Senator Durbin has 5 minutes, Senator Schumer has 5 minutes. Then it is
the Senator from Virginia's turn to offer an amendment.
Mr. WARNER. I thank the distinguished Presiding Officer.
Mr. STEVENS. Followed by the Senator from New Jersey?
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Followed by the Senator from New Jersey.
The Senator from Illinois.
(The remarks of Mr. Durbin and Mr. Schumer are printed in today's
Record under ``Morning Business.'')
Mr. LAUTENBERG. Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll.
The legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
Mr. WARNER. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for
the quorum call be rescinded.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Amendment No. 1867
(Purpose: To increase the Federal share of the cost of disaster relief
provided in connection with Hurricane Isabel; and to provide for repair
or replacement of Department of Defense infrastructure damaged or
destroyed by Hurricane Isabel)
Mr. WARNER. Mr. President, I send an amendment to the desk.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will report.
The legislative clerk read as follows:
The Senator from Virginia [Mr. Warner], for himself, and
Mr. Allen, Mr. Sarbanes, Ms. Mikulski, and Mrs. Dole proposes
an amendment numbered 1867:
On page 39, between lines 2 and 3, insert the following:
Sec. 3002. Notwithstanding any other provision of law, the
Federal share of the cost of any disaster relief payment made
under the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency
Assistance Act (42 U.S.C. 5121 et seq.) for damage caused by
Hurricane Isabel shall be 90 percent.
Sec. 3003. Of the funds appropriated by this Act,
$500,000,000 shall be available for repair or replacement of
Department of Defense and National Aeronautics and Space
Administration infrastructure damaged or destroyed by
Hurricane Isabel, related flooding, or other related natural
forces.
Mr. WARNER. Mr. President, I purposely desired the clerk to read the
short amendment because this affects the interests in 6 States. This
tragic hurricane struck North Carolina, Virginia, Maryland, West
Virginia, Delaware, Pennsylvania, and the District of Columbia.
Those are the States that were declared by the President as Federal
disaster areas. The technical decision has been made by the appropriate
authorities that these States suffered severe damage.
On the 19th of September, the hurricane caused 45 deaths, and
approximately $1.7 billion of total damages, of which approximately
$450 million was sustained in Virginia and $410 million in Maryland.
I offer this amendment on behalf of colleagues in all of those
States. I have listed thus far myself, Senator Allen, Senator Sarbanes,
Senator Mikulski, and Senator Dole. I expect other Senators from those
States will desire to add their names at their own initiative.
Why on this particular bill should this funding be provided? It is a
legitimate question.
No. 1, it is taken out of the funds in this bill for the Department
of Defense. It is not an add-on or an end run. It is straightforward
from the Department of Defense. In consultation with the individual
military services, it was relayed to me that the functioning of these
military facilities in the States enumerated is essential to the
current operations of the United States military.
Senator Allen, members of the Virginia delegation, and I, together
with the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security went down to
these hard-hit communities. We spent at least 1 day with the Secretary
of Homeland Security looking at the damage in the Commonwealth of
Virginia; and specifically, to the Langley Air Force Base and NASA
facility. It is a relatively modest sum, but the Langley facility has a
dual purpose. It serves both for the Department of Air Force and the
National Aeronautics and Space Administration.
We simply couldn't have the construction and repairs eligible for one
part of the facility and not the other. Of course, the debate was
primarily for the Department of Air Force. That is one very modest and
minor technical aspect of this.
But the Department of Defense is willing to take those funds
necessary for NASA from the funds I put in here, the reason being you
simply cannot take a water line, for example, for a flood-damaged area
and stop at the arbitrary line between where NASA operates and where
the Department of Air Force operates.
I am hopeful colleagues will not look upon that as any significant
departure from the managers' effort to contain this legislation to
expenditures related to the military. I really urge colleagues to
support this. Our colleagues from these 6 States support it. I cannot
speak for those who are not on here. I intend to visit with the
distinguished senior Senator from West Virginia on this matter in the
course of the day as well as the junior Senator from West Virginia. It
is my hope this Chamber will accept this amendment.
Again, there was a Presidential designation of areas of destruction,
and here in the Nation's Capital some of our military installations
suffered damage.
I point out that in the course of my trips--I think I made seven
trips back to my State in connection with this very frightful
hurricane--I worked with FEMA. I commend FEMA. The FEMA people came in,
as well as the Small Business Administration, and helped tremendously.
I recall being in Alexandria along with the Small Business
Administration people, and we walked in and out of the various places
of business--small restaurants and shops where water had come up waist
high the previous evening. You can't imagine the despair on the faces
and in the minds of a shopkeeper who was there amidst all of this mud,
debris, foul-smelling effects of the flood; and then also trying to get
briefed on the pathogens that could flow from the mold that will come
forward.
But I found the Small Business Administration people, and
particularly FEMA, to be very reassuring to those people who were
overcome with emotion and dispair. Senator Allen and myself on this
particular day, and FEMA and the Small Business Administration people,
gave assurance that the Federal Government would give a measure of
help: Here are the forms, here is the instruction book, there will be a
representative from FEMA and SBA at this location. You can go to that
entity and seek assistance.
That all worked quite well in my State. However, SBA or FEMA is not
available to provide assistance to the military installations who were
damaged. It is left up to the commander of those bases to finance these
costs. I spent considerable time with the commander at Langley Air
Force Base. I commend him. He stayed throughout the storm even though
the base was largely evacuated. It was important to get the military
equipment out of the path of the storm and locate that equipment in a
remote area so they could continue to function. There was no gap in the
fulfillment of the military mission. That commander and indeed the
general officer in charge of that base and others are to be commended.
I could recite other bases and installations, including Fort Story,
the same thing: The commander and senior officers and enlisted
personnel stayed throughout the storm. By and large, they helped save
property and lives, no question about it. Had everyone departed and
tried to get back--in some instances the roads were severed and
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you could not get back and more destruction would occur in that passage
of time.
There was considerable bravery from military and civilians on the
military installations. FEMA cannot by law step in, nor can the Small
Business Administration. Who is to fill the vacuum? The Congress. That
is why I am asking the support for this amendment.
Again, this includes six States. I have an evaluation of the various
damages assessed by the military department in the several States. As
far as I can determine, they are good, hard substantiated figures.
There is no padding that I know of nor would I permit it.
For example, in the U.S. Marine Corps, $16.5 million, primarily in
North Carolina and right here below the District of Columbia, Quantico;
the U.S. Army, $92 million; the Navy, $185 million; and the Air Force,
$210 million.
Mr. President, this amendment will provide approximately $500 million
to repair and replace military and NASA facilities along the east coast
that were damaged by Hurricane Isabel. These are the facilities in
which our military personnel and their families live and work. The Air
Force alone suffered approximately $210 million, much of that was the
result of flooding at Langley Air Force Base. Damage at Naval
facilities is estimated to exceed $180 million, while damage at Army
and Marine Corps facilities is estimated to exceed $100 million. There
was also an estimated $5 million in damage at the NASA facility in
Langley.
Make no mistake, this damage will have to be repaired and unless we
provide the funding in this bill, it will come at the expense of
operations and training.
I am hopeful colleagues will support this amendment.
I will leave it to the managers of the bill to decide how and when
this matter is addressed formally, either by voice or recorded vote.
I ask unanimous consent this be the pending business subject to the
managers, and I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. SARBANES. Mr. President, I am pleased to be a cosponsor of the
amendment offered by my colleague, Senator Warner, which seeks to
address the damages at Department of Defense installations in those
States impacted by Hurricane Isabel.
The State of Maryland was particularly hard hit by Hurricane Isabel
and the strong winds and flooding that accompanied it. Entire
communities were submerged, power was lost in some areas for a week and
countless individuals sustained damage to their homes, businesses and
property. A number of Maryland's military facilities were similarly
affected.
Perhaps the hardest hit was the United States Naval Academy in
Annapolis which suffered approximately $39 million in damage. Several
weeks ago, I met with the Academy's Superintendent, Vice Admiral Rodney
Rempt, who shared with me photographs of the destruction brought on by
the hurricane. Hurricane-related swelling of the Chesapeake Bay, the
Severn River and the Annapolis Harbor resulted in the flooding of
academic buildings and laboratories, the submerging of athletic fields
and the destruction of electrical systems. Our future Naval officers
are now forced to take classes wherever they can be offered in the
chapel, on a Navy barge, in administrative offices.
Hurricane destruction was not limited to Annapolis alone. Officials
at the Army's Aberdeen Proving Ground, Patuxent River Naval Air Station
and the Naval Surface Warfare Center Indian Head Division, among
others, also report significant amounts totaling in the millions of
dollars to repair roofs and buildings, replace piers, and clean up
debris related to the storms.
As you know, Operation and Maintenance funding at our bases is
routinely among the most thinly stretched. And that is in years without
a major natural disaster. This amendment provides $500 million to cover
the much-needed cost of repair at facilities along the East Coast
facilities whose continued operation are vital to our national defense.
I urge my colleagues to join with me in supporting its passage.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from New Jersey.
Mr. LAUTENBERG. Mr. President, I am going to talk about an amendment
that I will be sending to the desk, and that is why I sought
recognition. However, I also take just a couple of minutes to commend
Senator Byrd for his leadership on this issue, for reminding Members we
have an obligation to examine the conditions under which we operate to
make certain funds that are expended--I served with Senator Byrd in the
Appropriations Committee for many years, and he is just as diligent on
the floor as he is in the committee--to make sure the funds we expend,
our taxpayer funds, are clearly examined and clearly understood before
we make the commitment to send those funds on their way.
For the almost 19 years I have served in the Senate, I am always
impressed when I hear Senator Byrd stand up and act as the conscience
of the Senate, reminding all Members of our responsibilities in such
eloquent ways. I am grateful to him for the time he has allowed me to
speak today as we discuss the supplemental appropriations bill.
Amendment No. 1868
I send an amendment to the desk and ask for its immediate
consideration, and I ask the pending amendment be laid aside to
accommodate that.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will report.
The legislative clerk read as follows:
The Senator from New Jersey, [Mr. Lautenberg], for himself,
Mr. Schumer, and Mr. Corzine, proposes an amendment numbered
1868.
Mr. LAUTENBERG. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the
reading of the amendment be dispensed with.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
The amendment is as follows:
(Purpose: To prohibit the use of funds for any contract or other
financial agreement or arrangement with any entity that pays
compensation in the form of deferred salary to certain United States
Government officials)
On page 38, between lines 20 and 21, insert the following:
Sec. 2313. (a) Short Title.--This section may be cited as
the ``Ethics in Government Contracting Act of 2003''.
(b) Prohibition on Contracts With Certain Entities.--None
of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this
title may be obligated or expended for any contract, any
financial agreement, or any other arrangement between the
United States and any entity that--
(1) at the time of such obligation or expenditure, is
obligated under an agreement or otherwise to pay deferred
compensation to any individual who holds a position listed in
subsection (c); or
(2) has issued to such an individual one or more options
for such individual to purchase a total of more than 1,000
shares of stock of such entity.
(c) Covered Individuals.--The positions referred to in
subsection (b) are--
(1) President;
(2) Vice President;
(3) Secretary of State;
(4) Secretary of the Treasury;
(5) Secretary of Defense;
(6) Attorney General;
(7) Secretary of the Interior;
(8) Secretary of Agriculture;
(9) Secretary of Commerce;
(10) Secretary of Labor;
(11) Secretary of Health and Human Services;
(12) Secretary of Housing and Urban Development;
(13) Secretary of Transportation;
(14) Secretary of Energy;
(15) Secretary of Education;
(16) Secretary of Veterans Affairs;
(17) Secretary of Homeland Security;
(18) Director of the Office of Management and Budget;
(19) United States Trade Representative;
(20) Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency;
(21) Director of National Drug Control Policy; and
(22) Assistant to the President and Chief of Staff.
(d) Effective Date.--This section shall take effect 90 days
after the date of the enactment of this Act.
Mr. LAUTENBERG. Mr. President, along with Senators Schumer and
Corzine, I offer an amendment to this supplemental called the Ethics in
Government Contracting Act. We must ensure that taxpayer-funded
contracts in Iraq are of the highest ethical standards for contracting
that we can achieve.
The question arises as a result of a contract that is now worth over
$1.4 billion and was awarded without competitive bidding or public
notice. The contract was given to the Halliburton Corporation, a
company in which Vice President Cheney maintains a financial interest.
The definition of the ``financial interest'' is confirmed by the
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Congressional Research Service, which is the nonpartisan research arm
we turn to when we have questions. They have a great deal of skill and
ability, and they agreed with me that despite the Vice President's
claim to the contrary, that he had no financial interest, in fact, the
conditions under which he is operating in connection with Halliburton
do indicate a financial interest.
Now, there is no accusation here of any wrongdoing. But I have got to
ask, Is the taxpayer best served by the award of a lucrative contract
to a company formerly headed by the Vice President and from which he
still draws compensation?
It is well known that the standard for ethics is not just to avoid
wrongdoing but also to avoid the appearance of impropriety because
public perception of insider deals can be just as damaging as a
wrongdoing itself.
Right now we are looking at a stark example of activity that gives
rise to the appearance of impropriety. To put it simply, the largest
recipient of reconstruction contracts in Iraq is currently paying a
salary directly to the Vice President of the United States. In
addition, the Vice President holds hundreds of thousands of unexercised
stock options in this company.
We toppled a corrupt dictatorship to instill democratic principles in
Iraq, but what does it say to the Iraqi people when the largest
recipient of United States reconstruction contracts in Iraq is paying
compensation to the second highest official in the U.S. Government? I
say it sends the wrong message to the people of Iraq and certainly
sends the wrong message to the people in our country.
Also, in an untimely fashion, it sends a message to those who are
serving in our military in Iraq. Today's Washington Post, on the front
page, has the result of a poll that was taken by the Stars and Stripes,
the bible all of us use when we are serving our country, in which there
is considerable criticism about the way they are being asked to serve
and the conditions under which they do it. Many say they do not plan to
reenlist, and that is a terrible condemnation of what is going on.
Now, these are brave souls. These are good, loyal people. And the one
thing we are not discussing in this $87 billion supplemental is whether
or not the troops are being supported, because outside of the $20
billion that is under discussion now, there is unanimous support, in my
view, for just getting those funds out there that can help protect,
that can help make our military more efficient, make their living
conditions better. No question about that.
So when those who are serving see that it appears there is an inside
relationship, that Halliburton got this fantastically fat contract,
estimated to be worth a lot less than is now being spent--the American
people are already skeptical about the pricetag of this supplemental
appropriations bill, and if we are going to spend such a massive amount
of their money, we have to help reassure them we are following the
highest ethical standards with these funds.
My amendment would make the ethics standards very clear. It says that
none of the Iraq reconstruction funds may be used to award a contract
with a company that currently pays compensation, including stock
options, to the President, Vice President, or any member of the
President's Cabinet.
Ideally, there should not be a need for such an amendment, but over
the last few weeks it has become clear we need to draw some very
visible ethical lines.
As I mentioned, the most controversial contract in Iraq is the one
that was awarded to the Vice President's former company, Halliburton,
to repair and maintain oil fields. This contract was negotiated in
private, with no competition from other bidders.
Last winter, we heard that this no-bid contract with Halliburton
might cost $50 million and was there for the exclusive mission of
putting out oil well fires. Then we were told that the contract was for
much more than putting out fires; that it would be operating and
maintaining oil facilities across Iraq. And now this sole source, no-
bid Halliburton contract is growing at an accelerating rate.
Halliburton has been billing taxpayers at a furious pace under this
no-bid contract. In September, the amount of money billed by
Halliburton under this contract rose to $1.4 billion. That was
estimated to be a $50 million contract, done in the dark of night--from
$50 million up to $1.4 billion.
If we just look at this chart, we see what has happened. If you go
back to January 2003, it was just starting. And these are amounts in
millions on the chart. The acceleration, the shape of the curve, tells
you just what has happened. Look at where we are on October 1, 2003--10
months after this contract began--and we are up to $1.4 billion. Look
at the spike in just September alone. The contract doubled over that 1-
month period.
This no-bid, exclusive contract for Halliburton was negotiated in
private and not revealed to the public until Members of Congress
demanded information. And now the Army Corps has finally agreed to open
this contract for competitive bidding, but it is unclear when the new
contract will be effective.
Rather than offer reassurance to the American people that the no-bid
Halliburton contract was above board, the Vice President raised
suspicion with his recent comments. On national television, the Vice
President recently said, regarding Halliburton, that he--and I quote--
``severed all of my ties with the company, gotten rid of all my
financial interest.''
He went on to say--and I quote again--``I have no financial interest
in Halliburton of any kind and haven't had, now, for over three
years.''
The problem is that the Vice President's own financial disclosure
reports contradict that claim. His financial disclosures reveal that he
has received over $205,000 from Halliburton in deferred salary in
2001--more than his salary as Vice President. In 2002, he received
$162,000 in deferred salary from Halliburton. His financial disclosure
forms indicate that he expects to receive similar compensation this
year, and in 2004 and 2005.
The Vice President's statements regarding his ties to Halliburton
were not correct. And I called on him to correct the record. He did not
do that.
The Vice President is currently receiving salary payments from
Halliburton worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, as this
administration doles out billions of dollars in contracts to
Halliburton.
In addition, the Vice President holds 433,000 unexercised Halliburton
stock options. And even though the exercise price is above the current
market price, the options extend to 2009, and any option holder--Mr.
President, I come out of the corporate world--has to hope that the
stock price surges so the value of the options increase. One way this
can happen is to be sure that lucrative contracts keep coming from the
U.S. Government.
Halliburton's stock value has increased 75 percent over the last
year, even though the rest of the oil services industry has remained
relatively flat. And we know that the biggest boost Halliburton has
gotten is the multibillion-dollar Government contract in Iraq. This has
an unwholesome appearance.
We want to change the environment in which we are presently
operating. I offer this amendment. I urge my colleagues to support the
ethics in government contracting amendment.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Alaska.
Mr. STEVENS. Mr. President, this amendment has more than a whiff of
politics in it. If I had the power to do so, I would close the room and
turn on some fans. This is the most outrageous amendment I have heard
in my time in the Senate in 35 years. As a practical matter, it is also
wrong.
Contracts were bid. Brown and Root contracts were bid. The December
contracts were entered into for Bosnia, Kosovo, by the last
administration.
The Vice President stated what the Senator from New Jersey said in
part. He did not say fully what the Vice President said. Let me say
what the Vice President said on September 14:
I have no financial interest in Halliburton of any kind and
haven't had now for over three years. And as Vice President,
I have absolutely no influence of, involvement of, knowledge
of in any way, shape or form, of contracts let by the Corps
of Engineers or anybody else in the federal government . . .
The Vice President has a deferred compensation obligation from his
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former employer. He has no financial interest in Halliburton. The
Senator's amendment cleverly works through a connection to the Vice
President because he does have a deferred compensation concept. He has
a right to receive money that was owed to him by Halliburton before he
left that company for work he did before he left that company. The
deferred compensation is money the Vice President earned as part of his
monthly salary while he was at Halliburton but elected not to receive
until he left the firm. This is done in many cases. It is a fixed
amount that is being paid out over a period of time. The amount is not
tied to the success or failure of Halliburton in any way. It is money
owed by Halliburton to the Vice President for the time he was employed
by the company before he left the company.
While employed by Halliburton, the Vice President routinely deferred
a portion of his salary. That was his right to do. And each year he had
the option of electing to receive a deferred salary in a lump sum
payment when he left the firm or in a stream of payments over a period
of time. In December of 1998, long before he contemplated returning to
public life, Vice President Cheney elected to defer a portion of his
1999 compensation and receive it over a period of years following his
departure from the company. Once he made that election in 1998, it was
irrevocable.
When the Vice President left Halliburton some 2 years later, he was
not able to change this election, and Halliburton was required to
distribute the 1999 compensation in five annual payments. To avoid even
the appearance of a conflict of interest, the Vice President voluntary
complied with the practice then required by the Office of Government
Ethics and purchased an insurance policy to ensure that he had no
financial interest in the future of Halliburton. The Vice President
purchased this policy out of his own pocket. He paid the premium
himself. The insurance policy guarantees the Vice President will
receive the deferred compensation owed to him, whether Halliburton is
successful or goes bankrupt. The insurance policy ensures the Vice
President has no financial interest in the success or failure of this
company.
The Vice President eliminated any potential conflict of interest
related to his deferred compensation arrangement and he resolved any
financial interest he had in Halliburton. The Vice President reported
the deferred compensation arrangement in his 2001 and 2002 public
financial disclosure forms.
On January 18, 2001, the Vice President signed an irrevocable
agreement donating to charity the after-tax proceeds from the exercise
of his Halliburton stock options. Again, this is something the Senator
from New Jersey could have found very easily.
Under the agreement, the Vice President divested himself of all
economic benefits of the options and gave them to charity. The three
charities named in the agreement are the Capital Partners for
Education, the George Washington University Medical Faculty Associates,
and the University of Wyoming. The Vice President has no control over
the remaining stock options. This agreement gave the administrative
agent the power to exercise the stock options and pay the proceeds to
the charities. The administrative agent has total discretion to decide
when to exercise the options without consultation with Mr. Cheney.
Under the agreement, the Vice President will owe not a penny more or
a penny less in taxes. The Vice President reported his gift arrangement
on his 2001 and 2002 public financial disclosure forms.
If you read this amendment, it covers every official of the executive
branch on a senior level. Beyond that, it covers assistants to the
President, the director of national drug policy. I wonder why the
Senator didn't include every Senator in the United States. I have never
had the honor to own 1,000 shares of stock in anything. Some Senators
do. I just wonder what is going on here in terms of this concept. We
already accepted an amendment that requires any contract entered into
using the funds in this bill to be full and open competition. But this
contract was full and open. It is competed approximately every 5 years.
It is a Brown and Root company to which Halliburton is related.
This is a slur against the Vice President of the United States. I
have known him now since he was over in the House of Representatives as
assistant to former President Ford. I have known this man for years and
years and years. I know no more honorable man who has served in
government than Dick Cheney. That is why I am here. I heard about this
amendment.
I am sad to say that I am here to respond to it. I never expected
this from the Senator from New Jersey. It would unfairly and unwisely
punish those who have been successful in the private sector and then
voluntarily enter into the service of the United States in the
executive branch. It doesn't touch the legislative branch or the
judicial branch, only executive, and it does so very unfairly.
I move to table the amendment, and I ask for the yeas and nays.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there a sufficient second?
There appears to be.
The question is on agreeing to the motion to table amendment No.
1868.
Mr. STEVENS. I suggest the absence of a quorum.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll.
The legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
Mr. GRAHAM of South Carolina. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent
that the call of the quorum be rescinded.
Mr. REID. I object.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Objection is heard.
The clerk will continue the call of the roll.
The legislative clerk continued with the call of the roll.
Mr. STEVENS. Mr. President I ask unanimous consent that the order for
the quorum call be rescinded.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. STEVENS. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the vote on
or in relation to the Byrd amendment occur at 3 p.m., without any
amendments being in order to the Byrd amendment. I further ask
unanimous consent that following the Byrd amendment there be a vote on
my motion to table the Lautenberg amendment.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection?
Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. REID. Mr. President, if I could, would it be appropriate to have
2 minutes equally divided prior to the vote on the Lautenberg
amendment?
Mr. STEVENS. That is all right with me. I thought we had a standing
order that there are 2 minutes on either side.
Mr. REID. Also, I ask that Senator Byrd have 2 minutes.
Mr. STEVENS. I ask unanimous consent that there be 2 minutes on
either side.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Chair cannot hear what the Senators are
saying. Please talk one at a time.
Mr. STEVENS. I ask unanimous consent that when we order a vote on
this bill, there be 2 minutes of debate on either side on amendments
prior to a vote.
Mr. REID. I ask that it be 1 minute on each side. OK, 2 minutes is
fine.
Mr. STEVENS. Two minutes.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. STEVENS. Mr. President, we have the Warner amendment also. I
would like to have scheduled for a vote following the Lautenberg
amendment, the vote on the motion to table.
Mr. REID. Reserving the right to object, I think we have come close
to clearing that amendment on this side. I don't think it will require
a vote. I don't know if we need to waste the time on that.
Mr. STEVENS. I will withdraw that. I thought there would be a
necessity for a vote.
Mr. REID. Mr. President, I ask also if the second vote--the one on
the motion to table the Lautenberg amendment--can be a 10-minute vote.
I don't see why we cannot speed this up a little.
Mr. STEVENS. I have no objection to that. I ask unanimous consent
that the second vote be a 10-minute vote.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, the second vote will be 10
minutes.
Mr. STEVENS. The Warner amendment is still pending, is it not?
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Yes.
Mr. STEVENS. I ask it be scheduled for a vote. It may not require a
vote or the yeas and nays, but I want to dispose of it now before the
Lautenberg amendment.
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Mr. REID. If I may say to my dear friend, we have a number of
amendments at the desk that are entitled to consideration before that
one. I will do my best to get Warner cleared, but I would rather not
have a vote on that because we have some at the desk also that have
been offered and debated. So I object.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Objection is heard.
Amendments Nos. 1863, 1814, As Modified, and 1855, En Bloc
Mr. STEVENS. Mr. President, I have amendments Nos. 1863, 1814, and
1855. The first amendment is by Senator McConnell, which I will send to
the desk. The second is an amendment by Senator Leahy, No. 1814, as
modified. The third is No. 1855 by Senator Harkin. I send them to the
desk and ask that they be considered en bloc.
Mr. REID. Mr. President, I haven't had the opportunity to talk to
Senator Byrd or his staff.
Mr. STEVENS. We rely on our staffs and they have been cleared.
Mr. REID. We have no objection.
The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Sununu). Without objection, it is so
ordered.
The clerk will report.
The legislative clerk read as follows:
The Senator from Alaska [Mr. Stevens], for Mr. McConnell,
proposes an amendment numbered 1863.
The Senator from Alaska [Mr. Stevens], for Mr. Leahy,
proposes an amendment numbered 1814, as modified.
The Senator from Alaska [Mr. Stevens], for Mr. Harkin, for
himself and Mrs. Clinton, proposes an amendment numbered
1855.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there further debate on the amendments?
If not, the question is on agreeing to the amendments.
The amendments were agreed to, as follows:
amendment no. 1863
On page 34, line 1, strike everything after ``proviso,''
through ``Iraq''; on line 5, and insert in lieu thereof:
striking the first proviso, and inserting in lieu thereof:
Provided, That subject to the determination and
notification requirements of this section, exports are
authorized to Iraq of lethal military equipment designated by
the Secretary of State for use by a reconstituted (or
interim) Iraqi military, private security force, other
official Iraqi security forces or police forces, or forces
from other countries in Iraq that support United States
efforts in Iraq:
amendment no. 1814, as modified
(Purpose: to require the Coalition Provisional Authority to provide
additional information justifying allocations for capital projects in
Iraq)
On page 25, line 21, before the colon, insert the
following:
: Provided further, That none of the funds appropriated
under this heading may be allocated for any capital project,
including construction of a prison, hospital, housing
community, railroad, or government building, until the
Coalition Provisional Authority submits a report to the
Committees on Appropriations describing in detail the
estimated costs (including the costs of consultants, design,
materials, shipping, and labor) on which the request for
funds for such project is based: Provided further, That in
order to control costs, to the maximum extent practicable
Iraqis with the necessary qualifications should be consulted
and utilized in the design and implementation of programs,
projects, and activities funded under this heading
Amendment No. 1855
(Purpose: To provide for a report by the Comptroller General on certain
contracts performed in, or relating to, Iraq, and for other purposes)
On page 39, between lines 2 and 3, insert the following:
Sec. 3002. (a) The Comptroller General shall conduct
studies on the effectiveness and efficiency of the
administration and performance of contracts in excess of
$40,000,000 that are performed or are to be performed in, or
relating to, Iraq and are paid out of funds made available
under this Act or the Emergency Wartime Supplemental
Appropriations Act, 2003 (Public Law 108-11). The studies
shall specifically examine the profits, administrative
overhead, management fees, and related expenditures for the
management of subcontracts (and further subcontracting) under
any such contract. In conducting studies under this section,
the Comptroller General shall have access to any information
and records created or maintained by the United States, or by
any entity receiving funds for contracts studied under this
section that the Comptroller General considers appropriate.
(b) Not later than 6 months after the date of enactment of
this Act and again 4 months thereafter, the Comptroller
Government shall submit to the Committees on Appropriations
of the Senate and the House of Representatives a report that
includes--
(1) an evaluation of the studies conducted under this
section; and
(2) any recommendations for the improvement of the
contracting process for contracts performed or to be
performed in Iraq and for contracts generally, including the
selection process, contract content, and oversight of the
administration and performance of contracts.
Mr. STEVENS. Mr. President, I move to reconsider the vote.
Mr. REID. I move to lay that motion on the table.
The motion to lay on the table was agreed to.
Mr. LEAHY. Mr. President, the administration's justification
materials for the $20 billion in reconstruction funds for Iraq, which
we received just last week, contains broad categories of projects with
no supporting details about how the administration arrived at the
expected costs of those projects.
For example, they want $400 million for two prisons, at a cost of
$50,000 per bed. How is that possible? Are we going to ship the cement
over there?
They budget $150 million for a tertiary care, pediatric hospital,
with no details about how they arrived at that number and no
explanation of why this is the best use of these funds in Iraq, versus
far less costly public health clinics and immunization programs.
They want to spend $100 million for seven housing communities.
Housing is short in Iraq, but should American taxpayers really pay $100
million?
We simply do not have nearly enough information to justify these
exorbitant expenditures.
My amendment says that before funds are allocated for capital
projects like prisons, hospitals, railroads, and government buildings,
the Coalition Provisional Authority must submit a report to the
Committees on Appropriations describing the estimated cost on which the
request for funds for the project is based.
The amendment also says, that in order to control costs, to the
maximum extent practicable, Iraqis with the necessary qualifications
should be consulted and utilized in the design and implementation of
reconstruction projects. We want to employ Iraqis, not $500 and hour
consultants.
I don't doubt that Iraq needs new prisons, government buildings, and
housing, although I am not yet convinced the American people should pay
for these things. This amendment does not prevent any project from
being built.
But we hear about spending millions of dollars in Iraq for things--
from vehicles to cement factories--that with a minimum of frugality
could be bought or built for a fraction of the price.
Before we spend 5 or 10 times more than we need to, let's find out
what we are paying for to be sure it is the best use of the money.
That is what my amendment does. It requires the administration to
give us the information that justifies these costs, before the funds
are allocated. The American people deserve to know what their money is
paying for, before it is spent.
I thank the managers for agreeing to this amendment.
Mr. HARKIN. Mr. President, I appreciate the Senate's passage of the
amendment Senator Clinton and I proposed today that requires the
General Accounting Office to report to the Congress in 6 and 10 months
about the contracting and subcontracting process in Iraq. I appreciate
Chairman Stevens' support.
The GAO would study the effectiveness and efficiency of those
contracts, particularly looking at profit and things like
administrative overhead as the contracts turn into subcontracts and
subsubcontracts.
It calls for the GAO to make recommendations on how to improve the
process. I believe we must do a lot of work to improve how we are doing
things before the Congress gets the next large request for funds for
Iraqi reconstruction.
I would like to insert into the Record at the end of my remarks a
letter of support for the amendment from Taxpayers for Common Sense, a
nonpartisan watchdog group.
I fear that there is a lot of very poor performance and clear waste
going around for the grants already let. I fear we may be seeing some
of the worst taxpayer wastes in decades. That is saying an awful lot.
I would note that there are press report that U.S. AID only has 14
employees in Iraq overseeing $3 billion in contracts. That is
maladministration.
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The first Iraqi military battalion has just been trained under a $49
million contract to Vennel, a subsidiary of Northrup Grumman. The work
got subcontracted to something called MPRI. The interesting thing is
that first battalion was not detailed to work in areas where there are
difficulties in Iraq. Instead of taking a load off of American troops,
they have been assigned to the desert to defend against Iran. It smells
like nobody trusts the quality of that work and we are hiding the
result.
It looks like Halliburton is charging the U.S. $1.62 for gasoline
that can be bought and transported to Iraq for about 96 cents. Price
gouging would be a kind way of saying it.
The budget documents indicated that $50,000 is being budgeted for the
creation of 8,000 new prison cells. I fear contracts will be issued at
that level when the real cost of construction in Iraq is far, far less.
Given the cost of construction, it makes one wonder why the price is so
high. It is, I believe more than it would cost to build such facilities
in the United States, where labor costs are far higher.
There is a plan for an $800 million Iraqi police training facility. I
am told there is likely to be a $26 million per month ``management
fee'' associated with this project.
We need to understand what the reality is on expenditures like these.
We need to have real examination of what is going on and make sure that
the structure is in place that U.S. taxpayers' money is well used and
not wasted.
I ask unanimous consent that the following letter be printed in the
Record.
There being no objection, the material was ordered to be printed in
the Record, as follows:
Increase Contract Accountability For Iraqi Reconstruction Efforts
Taxpayers for Common $ense
Action,
October 15, 2003.
Dear Senator Harkin: Taxpayers for Common Sense Action, a
non-partisan budget watchdog group, strongly supports your
amendment to require the Comptroller General to conduct a
review of the effectiveness and efficiency of all contracts
in excess of $40,000,000 that are performed in Iraq and paid
out the Emergency Wartime Supplemental Appropriations Act.
With a $20 billion pot of available funds, Congress must
ensure that federal taxpayer dollars are spent wisely on
Iraqi reconstruction efforts. Current oversight of Iraqi
reconstruction contracts has been virtually non-existent. We
need to reintroduce accountability and transparency into the
process to ensure that federal tax dollars are spent
judiciously. This is especially true in light of current
skyrocketing budget deficits.
Your amendment is essential to ensure the American people
that the federal government is not improperly wasting Iraqi
reconstruction dollars.
Sincerely,
Jill Lancelot,
President.
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Mrs. CLINTON. Mr. President, I am pleased that the Senate passed the
Harkin-Clinton amendment.
The Constitution gives the responsibility for appropriating taxpayer
funds to the Congress. Thus, Congress has a responsibility to ensure
that the taxpayers' money is well spent. However, the size and scope of
the administration's $87 billion request makes it harder for Congress
to exercise its oversight responsibilities.
Our amendment ensures that Congress will have the information that it
needs to track expenditures and monitor the use of taxpayer funds. It
would require the Comptroller General to conduct studies on the
effectiveness and efficiency of the administration and performance of
contracts in excess of $40 million that are paid out of this bill or
the previous supplemental. The studies would specifically examine the
profits, administrative overhead, management fees, and related
expenditures for the management of subcontracts, and further
subcontracting, under any such contract. The Comptroller General would
be required to submit a report to Congress within 6 months that
includes this evaluation and any recommendations for improving the
contracting process.
Thus, we will know if companies are making reasonable profits or are
simply exploiting the situation for huge profits. In almost every major
war in our country's history, there have been instances of war
profiteering where companies take advantage of the rush to get the job
done to gouge the taxpayer. Usually, instances of war profiteering are
discovered after the war is over and the damage has already been done.
Here is an opportunity to be ahead of the curve and ensure that this
abuse does not take place at all.
With the huge sums being expended in Iraq, we need to ensure that
there is a level of accountability. As my colleague Senator Johnson
pointed out, there are literally plane loads of cash being flown into
Iraq. According to a Wall Street Journal story from August, the United
States has already sent a billion dollars in cash to Iraq. As the story
says, ``the U.S. has improvised a money pipeline that runs from a New
Jersey warehouse, to a Maryland air base, down Baghdad's Ambush Alley,
and even, at times, underneath the black burkas of two middle-age
female accountants--until it ends up in the pockets of ordinary
Iraqis.'' The story details how the United States is currently flying
planes full of cash to Baghdad, and that these banknotes are
``seeping'' into the economy through cash payments to guards,
pensioners, and other Iraqis.
With an additional $87 billion being added to the mix, $20 billion of
which will be spent on Iraq reconstruction, it is critical that we
understand how these funds are being spent. Furthermore, we need to
know how much of these taxpayer funds are actually going to rebuilding
Iraq and how much is filling the coffers of U.S. contractors?
I certainly hope that the General Accounting Office study called for
in this amendment will reveal that contractors are not raking in
outside profits or hiding profits in user and management fees. However,
if we discover that there are abuses by contractors receiving taxpayer
funds, it will be incumbent upon the Congress, which has the
Constitutional authority to appropriate these funds, to take steps to
prevent profiteering. This $87 billion appropriation is not the end of
Congress's responsibilities to safeguard taxpayer funds, it is only the
beginning.
I thank my colleagues for supporting the Harkin-Clinton amendment.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from New York is recognized.
Amendment No. 1872
Mr. SCHUMER. Mr. President, I have an amendment I will be offering
shortly. First, I am going to discuss it for a little bit to inform
colleagues about it. The amendment I will offer expresses a sense of
the Congress that the Attorney General should appoint a special counsel
to conduct an independent investigation of the leak of a CIA agent's
identity. The bottom line is this--and we have been through this on the
floor, so I will not go over the basic facts, other than to say that,
to me, this act--disclosing the name of an undercover agent--is
dastardly. It places a gun to the head of that agent; it puts in grave
danger operatives that agent may have had while he or she was
undercover and, of course, perhaps most important of all, it says to
every member of our intelligence community who puts themselves on the
line, just as our soldiers do, if you go seek the truth, report the
truth as you see it, and somebody upstairs doesn't like it, you are
putting yourself or your spouse in real danger.
To me, this is something that is not befitting of a great power, not
befitting not only because of its immorality--and I believe it is
immoral to do such a thing--but also for practical reasons, because
when great powers, as history shows us, lose touch with what is
actually happening and begin to delude themselves one way or another,
they lose power.
This country has had as its hallmark truth, open debate, and has had
as its hallmark, if you disagree, speak out. That, by the way, has been
one of the great things about our intelligence services, certainly
since World War II. The CIA, the DIA, and many of the other
intelligence services are known for reporting the truth. That is why
they are somewhat insulated. That is why the CIA was separated and made
its own agency. The day this country cannot gather the truth, at least
as seen by the brave men and women representing us in the intelligence
services, is the day we begin to decline. Yet that seems to be what has
happened here.
Ambassador Wilson went to Niger and reported the truth, as he saw it,
on a mission he was asked to undertake, and somebody didn't like what
he said. First, they tried to suppress it, and then when they couldn't
because Ambassador Wilson had the courage to go
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forward, it seems that somebody--it seems likely maliciously this was
done but perhaps not; we don't know; we don't know all the facts--gave
to Mr. Novak the name of his wife and identified her as an agent of the
Central Intelligence Agency.
That, in itself, is a crime. It doesn't matter what the motivation
is. That is a serious crime punishable by up to 10 years in prison. So
it is a very serious act.
Democrats, Republicans, liberals, conservatives--people from every
corner of the country--are totally aghast that this happened.
Mr. McCAIN. Will the Senator yield for a question?
Mr. SCHUMER. I will after I finish my basic outline. I have great
respect for my friend from Arizona and will yield for a question at the
conclusion of what I have to say.
Mr. McCAIN. I thank the Senator.
Mr. SCHUMER. I may be a little while. He might want to take his seat.
He is a strong man. He can stand if he likes. I just want to inform
him.
There was a view that we ought to get to the bottom of this
situation. I think, again, that was universally held. Our President
himself stated it. However, when we looked at the mechanism to get to
the bottom of this, there didn't seem to be a very good one. You
couldn't go to the inspector general of either the Justice Department
or the Defense Department because they can't look at the White House.
The independent counsel law had lapsed, and to allow the Justice
Department itself to conduct the investigation seemed to many of us at
the outset to pose, at the very least, an apparent conflict of interest
that now seems to be a very real conflict of interest given the facts
that have come out about the Attorney General's relationship with Karl
Rove and some of the others who, it is bandied about with no backing in
the sense there is proof, but there are signs, have said that he was
involved. So many of us called for a special counsel. A special counsel
is still allowed.
Special counsel was the type of law that allowed Archibald Cox and
Leon Jaworski to get to the bottom of Watergate. A special counsel does
not run into the problem that the independent counsel did: that it can
run amok and just look at everything under the Sun because it is still
under the Attorney General's control ultimately. If that special
counsel were to decide to, say, investigate something that went on in
Indonesia unrelated or something related to the President's campaign
finances, the Attorney General could snip it right off. That was the
main objection to the independent counsel law.
The advantage of the special counsel is very simple, particularly if
someone of some stature and independence is appointed, such as some of
our previous colleagues--Senator Danforth, Senator Rudman, Senator
Mitchell, or Senator Nunn. Then there is an assurance of some
independence and integrity and, at the same time, the day-to-day
operations of the special counsel are not under the control of the
Attorney General.
The special counsel, if he or she were blocked by the Attorney
General, would at the end of his or her investigation have to report to
the Congress that ``I wish to interview so and so and the Attorney
General said no.'' Or ``I wish to pursue this lead, and the Attorney
General said no.''
We all know the Brandeisian quote: Sunlight is the great disinfectant
and, therefore, as long as this becomes public, there is almost a
prophylactic effect. People will be unlikely or be far more reluctant
to block an avenue of investigation or the interrogation of a certain
witness.
The investigation has proceeded, and it is very clear that all of the
things we worry about--we worry about an apparent conflict of interest.
That obviously exists. We worry about a conflict of interest that, too,
still exists.
By the way, because the Attorney General is a close political friend
and associate of the President's, all the more reason that a special
counsel was then and still is needed.
There are two models for appointing Attorneys General in this sense
anyway. One is to appoint a close friend, confidante, even relative.
President Kennedy appointed his brother. That is reasonable to do, but
you lose independence. The other is to appoint someone more
independent, the Janet Reno model. But in this case, the President
chose to appoint someone politically tied to him, someone with a close
relationship, so no one even believes there is much independence there.
We ask for this special counsel to avoid both apparent conflict and the
real conflicts that exist.
Those pleas, done certainly by me earnestly--I am just outraged by
what happened, and I think we have to get to the bottom of it no matter
where it leads. I called for this investigation on July 22, long before
any names such as Rove or some of the others were bandied about because
I felt so strongly that whoever did this should be punished. It is a
despicable act. But as the investigation began to unfold, we saw there
was an additional problem, and that is that the investigation was not
being run very well; that by textbook prosecutorial rules and ways of
operating, this investigation had a number of failures. In fact, our
leader, Senator Daschle, and my colleagues Senators Biden and Levin,
and I sent a letter to the President on October 9 that outlined some of
these missteps. I thought I would read the parts of the letter that are
relevant.
I ask unanimous consent that the entire letter be printed in the
Record.
There being no objection, the material was ordered to be printed in
the Record, as follows:
U.S. Senate,
Washington, DC, October 9, 2003.
The President,
The White House,
Washington, DC.
Dear Mr. President: We write to express our continuing
concerns regarding the manner in which your Administration is
conducting the investigation into the apparently criminal
leaking of a covert CIA operative's identity. You have
personally pledged the White House's full cooperation in this
investigation and you have stated your desire to see any
culprits identified and prosecuted, but the Administration's
actions are inconsistent with your words.
Already, just fourteen days into this investigation, there
have been at least five serious missteps.
First, although the Department of Justice commenced its
investigation on Friday, September 26, the Justice Department
did not ask the White House to order employees to preserve
all relevant evidence until Monday, September 29. Every
former prosecutor with whom we have spoken, has said the
first step in such an investigation would be to ensure all
potentially relevant evidence is preserved, yet the Justice
Department waited four days before making a formal request
for such documents.
Second, when the Justice Department finally asked the White
House to order employees to preserve documents, White House
Counsel Alberto Gonzales asked for permission to delay
transmitting the order to preserve evidence until morning.
That request for delay was granted. Again, every former
prosecutor with whom we have spoken has said that such a
delay is a significant departure from standard practice.
Third, instead of immediately seeking the preservation of
evidence at the two other Executive Branch departments from
which the leak might have originated, i.e., State and
Defense, such a request was not made until Thursday, October
1. Perhaps even more troubling, the request to State and
Defense Department employees to preserve evidence was
telegraphed in advance not only by the request to White House
employees earlier in the week, but also by the October 1st
Wall State Journal report that such a request was
``forthcoming'' from the Justice Department. It is, of
course, extremely unusual to tip off potential witnesses in
this manner that a preservation request is forthcoming.
Fourth, on October 7, White House spokesperson Scott
McClellan stated that he had personally determined three
White House officials, Karl Rove, Lewis Libby and Elliot
Abrams, had not disclosed classified information. According
to press reports, Mr. McClellan said, ``I've spoken with each
of them individually. They were not involved in leaking
classified information, nor did they condone it.'' Clearly, a
media spokesperson does not have the legal expertise to be
questioning possible suspects or evaluating or reaching
conclusions about the legality of their conduct. In addition,
by making the statement, the White House has now put the
Justice Department in the position of having to determine not
only what happened, but also whether to contradict the
publicly stated position of the White House.
Fifth, and perhaps more importantly, the investigation
continues to be directly overseen by Attorney General
Ashcroft who has well-documented conflicts of interest in any
investigation of the White House. Mr. Ashcroft's personal
relationship and political alliance with you, his close
professional relationships with Karl Rove, and Mr. Gonzales,
and his seat on the National Security Council all tie him so
tightly to this White House that the results may not be
trusted by the American people. Even if the
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case is being handled in the first instance by professional
career prosecutors, the integrity of the inquiry may be
called into question if individuals with a vested interest in
protecting the White House are still involved in any matter
related to the investigation.
We are at risk of seeing this investigation so compromised
that those responsible for this national security breach will
never be identified and prosecuted. Public confidence in the
integrity of this investigation would be substantially
bolstered by the appointment of a special counsel. The
criteria in the Justice Department regulations that created
the authority to appoint a Special Counsel have been met in
the current case. Namely, there is a criminal investigation
that presents a conflict of interest for the Justice
Department, and it would be in the public interest to appoint
an outside special counsel to assume responsibility for the
matter. In the meantime, we urge you to ask Attorney General
Ashcroft to recuse himself from this investigation and do
everything within your power to ensure the remainder of this
investigation is conducted in a way that engenders public
confidence.
Sincerely,
Tom Daschle.
Joseph R. Biden.
Carl Levin.
Charles E. Schumer.
Mr. SCHUMER. I thank the Chair. I am going to read these five steps
that, again, fly in the face of good prosecutorial practice:
First, although the Department of Justice commenced its
investigation on Friday, September 26, the Justice Department
did not ask the White House to order employees to preserve
all relevant evidence until Monday, September 29. . . .
Second, when the Justice Department finally asked the White
House to order employees to preserve documents, White House
Counsel Alberto Gonzales asked for permission to delay
transmitting the order to preserve evidence until morning and
the request for delay was granted.
In both these instances, every seasoned prosecutor knows that is not
standard practice. You don't give those who might--underline
``might''--want to destroy evidence an opportunity to do so. The first
thing a good prosecutor does is gather as much evidence quickly and as
broadly as possible.
Third, instead of immediately seeking the preservation of
evidence at the two other Executive Branch departments from
which the leak might have originated, i.e., State and
Defense, such a request was not made until Thursday, October
1. Perhaps even more troubling, the request to the State and
Defense Department employees to preserve evidence was
telegraphed in advance not only by the request to White House
employees earlier in the week, but also by the October 1st
Wall Street Journal report that such a request was
``forthcoming'' from the Justice Department.
I have talked to prosecutors who flipped their lid at that one. You
put in the newspaper that you are going to request evidence of
potential suspects? Wow. Something is wrong. Is it done nefariously? I
do not know. Perhaps not. But it does not matter. Certainly, the
leaker, whoever he or she is, is under a cloud and worried about
potential criminal prosecution. Whether this was done by accident or by
design, it does not make a darn bit of difference. It fouls up the
investigation to a fare-thee-well.
Fourth, on October 7, going back from the letter, White House
spokesman Scott McClellan stated that he had personally determined that
three White House officials: Karl Rove, Lewis Libby, and Elliott
Abrams, had not disclosed classified information. According to press
reports, Mr. McClellan said he had spoken to each of them individually.
What is going on? We have the White House press spokesperson on his
own--or maybe with authorization. Did he get it from Justice? I doubt
it, but I sure would like to know--goes and interviews the witnesses,
or potential witnesses?
He then came to a conclusion and told it to the Nation: They were not
involved in leaking classified information, nor did they condone it.
Again, this comes from prosecution 101. A media spokesperson does not
have the legal expertise to be questioning possible suspects or
evaluating or reaching conclusions about the legality of their conduct.
In addition, by making this statement, the White House has now put
the Justice Department in the position of having to determine not only
what happened but whether to publicly contradict the White House
spokesperson.
Fifth, and maybe most importantly, the letter goes on to say that the
investigation continues to be directly overseen by Attorney General
Ashcroft, who has well documented conflicts of interest in any
investigation of the White House.
So we renewed our plea. Now, let me make two additional points that
have not come out since we last spoke about this on the Senate floor.
First, we do not know who is in charge. Who is running this
investigation? Is it, as some newspaper reports have said, the head of
the Counterterrorism Division within the FBI, a gentlemen named Mr.
Dion? Is it the head of the FBI, Mr. Mueller? Is it the Attorney
General? Is it the Assistant Attorney General in the Criminal Division
or somebody else? Who is making the decisions? How the heck can there
be a prosecution when we do not know who is in charge?
Then, of course, we do not know if that person is reporting to
Attorney General Ashcroft day to day. Is this person available? If the
White House press spokesperson will do his own little investigation and
tell everyone what happened, how about letting the public at least get
an idea from who is doing the investigation not to talk publicly about
the details but to let them know what is going on because, when one
looks at the press reports, it is either Judge Gonzales or a Justice
Department spokesperson or a member of the Justice Department who gets
up and says this is what is happening. It is unheard of. This
investigation already is so tainted.
So many of us ask, if they are not going to go for a special counsel,
which is what should happen, at least Attorney General Ashcroft
should publicly recuse himself. He has not even done that. What kind of
assurance does the public have that we are going to get to the bottom
of this?
Then the President says we may never get to the bottom of it. Well,
maybe he is just stating what he thinks, maybe he is just stating what
he hopes, or maybe he is sending a signal. I do not know which is
which, but he should not have said that. One day he said he wants to
get to the bottom of it, and we should, and that was great. The next
day he says, well, we may never know.
So this investigation is fraught with mistakes and errors, whether by
design or by accident, that imperil its results, whatever they come to
be.
I have never quite seen anything like it. I was on the Judiciary
Committee in the House of Representatives for 16 years and have now
been in the Senate for 5 years. I am somewhat familiar with how our
Federal justice agencies work. In all of my years, I have never seen
what happened. We can be sure that if this had happened during the
Clinton years, and these mistakes were being made, what we are saying
and asking to be done would be mild, would be pablum, compared to what
some of my colleagues on the other side would be asking for.
One other point before I get to the substance: This morning's New
York Times reported the following, and the headline is, ``Senior
Federal Prosecutors and FBI Officials Fault Ashcroft Over Leaked
Inquiry.'' I ask unanimous consent that this article be printed in the
Record.
There being no objection, the material was ordered to be printed in
the Record, as follows:
[From the New York Times, Oct. 16, 2003]
Senior Federal Prosecutors and F.B.I. Officials Fault Ashcroft Over
Leak Inquiry
(By David Johnston and Eric Lichtblau)
Washington, Oct. 15.--Several senior criminal prosecutors
at the Justice Department and top F.B.I. officials have
privately criticized Attorney General John Ashcroft for
failing to recuse himself or appoint a special prosecutor to
investigate the leak of a C.I.A. operative's identity.
The criticism reflects the first sign of dissension in the
department and the F.B.I. as the inquiry nears a critical
phase. The attorney general must decide whether to convene a
grand jury, which could compel White House officials to
testify.
The criminal justice officials, who spoke on the condition
that they not be identified, represent a cross section of
experienced criminal prosecutors and include political
supporters of Mr. Ashcroft at the department's headquarters
here and at United States attorneys' offices around the
country.
The officials said they feared Mr. Ashcroft could be
damaged by continuing accusations that as an attorney general
with a long career in Republican partisan politics, he could
not credibly lead a criminal investigation that centered on
the aides to a Republican president.
Democrats have criticized each step of the inquiry as
tainted by Mr. Ashcroft's relationship with the White House.
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The investigation is trying to determine who told the
syndicated columnist Robert Novak, as he wrote in July, that
Valerie Plame, the wife of a former ambassador, Joseph C.
Wilson IV, was a C.I.A. employee. Mr. Wilson was a critic of
the administration's Iraq policies.
A senior Justice Department official acknowledged on
Tuesday that the question of whether Mr. Ashcroft should step
aside had stirred discussion in the department, but said that
the dissent was limited and did not reflect the overall
thinking of the career lawyers who are in daily control of
the leak case. The official said that the option of recusal
or referral to a special prosecutor remained ``wide open.''
The official said that the question of whether Mr. Ashcroft
should step aside had been discussed among Mr. Ashcroft's
senior advisers, but that so far none of the career lawyers
on the case had recommended that the attorney general remove
himself.
The official said Mr. Ashcroft had twice gathered his
investigative team to urge them to find out who had leaked
the identity of the C.I.A. operative and to prosecute that
person if possible. ``He's angry about this,'' the official
said.
* * * * *
But Mr. Ashcroft and the F.B.I. director, Robert S. Mueller
III, operate as major members of Mr. Bush's antiterror team,
a closeness that complicates a criminal inquiry at the White
House managed by Mr. Ashcroft and Mr. Mueller.
Several alternative approaches have been suggested both
inside and outside the Justice Department, the officials
said. In one approach, Mr. Ashcroft would recuse himself from
the case once James B. Comey, the federal prosecutor in
Manhattan, took over as deputy attorney general in either an
acting or permanent basis.
Mr. Bush said earlier this month that he intended to
appoint Mr. Comey as deputy attorney general. Mr. Comey
brings established prosecutorial credentials to the job.
If Mr. Comey took charge, it would avoid the time-consuming
prospect of appointing a special counsel who would then have
semi-independence to investigate the case, but would still be
answerable to the attorney general.
Mr. Ashcroft is aware of the political sensitivity of the
case, and aides said he had worked hard to ensure an
aggressive investigation.
After a news report indicated that the F.B.I. would move
cautiously because of the intense scrutiny, an angry Mr.
Ashcroft had an aide call the F.B.I. immediately to let
officials there know that that would not be the case, a
Justice Department adviser said. ``He wants to make certain
we're moving with all appropriate dispatch.''
Mr. Ashcroft and Alberto R. Gonzales, the White House
counsel, have also been under fire for their initial handling
of the case. The Justice Department allowed the White House
to wait overnight on Sept. 28 before sending an electronic
message ordering White House employees not to destroy records
related to the leak.
Ashley Snee, a spokesman for Mr. Gonzales, said he believed
the delay was acceptable because no one in the White House
had any idea there was an investigation. But The New York
Times and The Washington Post had reported the day before
that the C.I.A. had forwarded the matter to the Justice
Department for possible investigation.
Mr. SCHUMER. So now we are finding that even people within the
Justice Department mention in the article that political supporters of
Mr. Ashcroft at the Department's headquarters and at the U.S.
Attorney's Offices around the country object, take issue with the way
this investigation has been conducted.
Again, this was a serious crime.
This is what former President George H. W. Bush says about the
leaking of names of undercover CIA agents: I have nothing but contempt
and anger for those who betray the trust by exposing our sources. They
are, in my view, the most insidious of traitors.
Serious stuff, traitors, not in the words of some partisan Democrat
but of our present President's father, our former President.
Here we are running an investigation that makes one scratch one's
head and wonder how serious, how competent, and how careful this
investigation is.
I quote a former CIA agent, Mr. Marcinkowski, from an October 7
appearance on CNN, where he said:
As an operations officer on scene in a country, the effects
of this--
The leak--
are that anyone who knows you or did know you will now look
at your mosaic. They will look at the people you've come in
contact with. They will suspect those people, be they
official contacts or innocent contacts. They will suspect
those persons of being intelligence agents. They could be
subject to interrogation, imprisonment and even death,
depending on the regime that you may be operating under.
He goes on to say:
There's also ramifications for CIA morale. I'm not naive
enough to say this is having a huge impact, but certainly, it
contributes to a decline in morale when you know that your
own government can identify you as a clandestine operator.
Certainly, there's going to be a reluctance on the part of
foreign nationals that may want to help the United States in
these trying times. They're going to be reluctant to serve
and help us with information, based on the fact that their
identification may be revealed by the government.
So it is more obvious now than when we tried to ask for it several
weeks ago that at the very minimum we need a special counsel and that
Attorney General Ashcroft should recuse himself immediately. Yet we get
continued mistakes and continued handling of this case as if someone
does not know how to do it or someone does not care or someone is
afraid to do it in a full-fledged sense.
I say to my colleagues on the other side of the aisle, this is not
going to go away. The best thing we could do, not only to serve our
country, which is in a time of war and I have had sympathy for that,
but to serve this administration, is to put this out of any question,
appoint a special counsel of high repute and integrity, and let the
investigation go forward on its own and see wherever it leads.
That is why the amendment I will be introducing shortly is so
important to all of us. I am not going to introduce it as of yet
because I know several of my colleagues wish to speak.
Mr. HARKIN. I wonder if the Senator will yield for a question.
Mr. SCHUMER. I will be happy to yield to my colleague from Iowa for a
question.
Mr. HARKIN. First, I thank the Senator from New York for his very
early and very eloquent statements on this issue, going clear back to
July. It was the Senator from New York who first started alerting this
body and the American people as to this disclosure by the Bush
administration of an undercover CIA agent's name and the ramifications
it had. So we owe the Senator from New York a great deal of gratitude
for his leadership on this issue because it is a matter of very grave
national security importance.
I have been listening to the Senator from New York talk about the
need for a special counsel and why it is so important for the Attorney
General to recuse himself from this. But I ask this of the Senator from
New York. It seems to me one of the ways we might really get to the
bottom of this in a hurry would be if those who leaked the information
to the journalists were to release the journalists from any obligation
to hide the sources.
I ask the Senator, would it not be possible for the President of the
United States to call in all of his senior staff, have them sit down at
a desk and sign a piece of paper releasing Mr. Novak and any other
journalists from protection of his or her name as a possible source of
the leak? Couldn't the President just have all of the senior White
House people, senior administration people sign such a thing? Then
wouldn't that release the duty or obligation of the journalists to
protect their sources? And wouldn't that get to the bottom of it in a
hurry? I ask the Senator from New York.
Mr. SCHUMER. I thank my colleague from Iowa for his question, which
is an interesting question, as well as his dogged pursuit in regard to
the truth in this matter. I know this is one of many times he has come
to the floor.
The bottom line is this gets us into the realm of journalists' rights
and the shield law and other things. I think if the President would ask
all of those in his office to release journalists from any strictures,
any compunction about letting it be known--if they believed it
appropriate--who leaked to them, that would be a very good idea.
I hasten to add that the journalists themselves might not do it. They
have not done it in previous times. We probably would still need this
investigation. But it certainly--and my colleague from Iowa is right
and I wouldn't want to compel them and I know he wouldn't either, but
it certainly would, again, call into good light the desire, professed
desire, of those in the White House, including the President himself,
to get to the bottom of this because obviously it could, and it could
quickly, provided the journalists who were so released would be willing
to come forward.
Mr. HARKIN. I say to the Senator from New York, it seems to me if the
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President really wants to get to the bottom of this--and I don't really
know that he does want to get to the bottom of this--I say to the
Senator from New York, it seems odd the President has been so
nonchalant about it, actually joking about it with foreign reporters.
Let's say, if I were a senior administration official working for the
President, and the President called me in and said: ``Tom, I want you
to sign this thing; it just says, `I, Tom Harkin, hereby release any
and all journalists from any obligation they may have to me to protect
my name as any possible source of a leak of this information regarding
Valerie Plame,''' and he'd ask me to sign it, it seems to me if I had
nothing to hide, I would sign it. If I had something to hide, I might
not want to sign it. Then the President would know.
You are obviously right, you don't want to force anyone, but
obviously they work for the President.
I ask the Senator from New York, doesn't it strike you as odd that
the President, who has spoken so forcefully about leaks and national
security, has been so nonchalant about this? Doesn't it strike the
Senator as odd?
Mr. SCHUMER. It does. I thank my colleague. It does strike me as
strange. I agree with you. The times there has been joking or bantering
about this, it bothered me very much.
Another thing that bothers me, along the same line as to what he has
asked: This President, in my judgment, to his credit, has made it a
point that we have to do everything we can to defend our soldiers on
the front lines. Whatever one's opinion of the war in Iraq, whatever
one's opinion of our actions in Afghanistan and Kosovo and everywhere
else--Korea, where we have soldiers--this President has made it a
hallmark of defending those troops and doing everything to defend those
troops. In fact, we are here in the Chamber defending, of the $87
billion, the vast majority, I guess--over $60 billion--to help defend
them in Iraq, something that most of us, myself included, support.
Yet when it comes to defending an agent who was on the front lines
and has been betrayed by, in the words of President George H. W. Bush,
a traitor, we get nonchalance, a joke here and there, ``What's the
bother? What's the fuss?'' Excuses--``This wasn't an agent, it was an
analyst.'' Or, ``This wasn't done by malice''--the effect still being
the same. That is serious.
I would say one other thing to my colleague. The President could also
demand that the culprit turn himself or herself in. I haven't heard
that yet. Would you think that would be the case if someone had
betrayed some of our soldiers in the field in Iraq?
There is sort of a strange dichotomy that my colleague from Iowa is
absolutely right to point out. That is, for this betrayal of a soldier,
if you will, who has been on our front lines, there is a nonchalance,
an attitude: Well, who cares too much about this?
Do you know what it makes the average American think? It makes them
think maybe there is something there, because if the President were
certain that it might not go to one of his close associates, or the
President were certain in his belief we had to get to the bottom of
this, I don't think we would see the kinds of actions we have seen from
the White House and even from the prosecution, because the prosecution
itself, as I said, is not being handled well. Again, maybe not by
design, but just by the structure that the President--the buck stops at
his office--has allowed to persist, the structure being investigation.
Mr. HARKIN. I thank the Senator for his response.
I have one last inquiry I would like to make and have the Senator
address. A lot has been focused on the individual, Valerie Plame--whom
I never met, of course. But a lot has been focused on her as sort of an
isolated incident, just one person, and that is it.
It has occurred to this Senator, as the Senator from New York has so
plainly stated, there are more than just the uniformed soldiers in Iraq
fighting the war on terrorism. It is all of our undercover agents, our
CIA, our information-gathering apparatus around the world to give us
forewarning of what is going to happen, to get access to that vital
information that we need in this fight against global terrorism.
Can the Senator address himself to the kind of chilling effect such a
disclosure might have on operatives of ours in the CIA, around the
globe today, who may be out there? They are getting their sources of
information. But what if they think at some point in the future they
could be outed, their name could be spread out there? What about, not
only them personally, but what about all their contacts? Now their
contacts are thinking: My gosh, if they are outed, I am outed and my
life is at risk.
Could the Senator address himself to the broader kind of effects this
might have on our fight on global terrorism?
Mr. SCHUMER. I thank my colleague from Iowa for his good question.
Mr. STEVENS. Mr. President, I have been very patient. It is not a
question. It is a request to make a statement.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Alaska is correct. The
Senator may only yield time for the purpose of a question.
Mr. HARKIN. Will the Senator yield for a question?
Mr. SCHUMER. I would be happy to yield for a rephrased question.
Mr. HARKIN. Does the Senator believe that such a disclosure could
have a chilling effect on operatives of ours in the field today and who
in the future may be out there risking their very lives gathering
information that we need on the war on terrorism? Does the Senator
believe this could have a chilling effect?
Mr. SCHUMER. I would like to answer my colleague. I do indeed. Don't
take my word for it. A few minutes before my colleague came to the
Chamber, I quoted former agent Mr. Marcinkowski who said that on CNN.
It has been reported by the media all over the place that those who
have served in intelligence say exactly that--that perhaps the greatest
danger that has occurred here may not have been to the individual
agent, may not have even been to the group of contacts that agent had
when undercover but, rather, to the morale of the intelligence agency
and, as importantly, to the effectiveness because agents know they can
be ``outed'' because they or someone they are close to says someone
high up may not like it and it could well have a chilling effect.
My reports are that the CIA from top to bottom is just furious that
this happened for the very reason of my friend's question, and the
answer to that which I was just giving.
The only way to alleviate it--the only way to restore that
credibility--is to get to the bottom of this in a full and thorough
investigation.
Mr. HARKIN. Will the Senator yield for one last question?
Mr. SCHUMER. I am happy to yield.
Mr. HARKIN. The question is, Has the investigation been tainted so
far? One instance which comes to this Senator's mind is when the
Department of Justice announced an official investigation but they
waited for days to notify the White House. I ask the Senator: Is this
not an indication that the investigation has already been tainted by
the Justice Department?
Mr. SCHUMER. In answer to my colleague's question, I believe this
certainly calls into question the effectiveness of this investigation,
perhaps the desire to get to the bottom of it, how strong that is and
how full that is. In a letter, which I, along with Senator Daschle,
Senator Levin, and Senator Biden, sent to the President, we raised that
very question. We have not yet received an answer.
Mr. HARKIN. I thank the Senator.
Mr. SCHUMER. I thank my colleague.
I know my friend from Alaska is eager to draw this to something of a
close and still allow us to have a vote.
Mr. STEVENS. If the Senator will yield to answer my question?
Mr. SCHUMER. For the purpose of a question.
Mr. STEVENS. The Senator's amendment, if offered, is subject to a
point of order. Haven't we been working on something now for 45 minutes
which is not germane to this bill?
Mr. SCHUMER. In answer to my colleague--and let me say I thought
there was a gentlemen's agreement between leaders Frist, Daschle, the
bill managers, yourself, and our colleague from West Virginia that if
the minority agreed to help complete work on this important bill by
Friday the majority would not raise points of order against our
amendments. In fact, as I understand it, a number of amendments have
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been allowed to be voted on where points of order might stand.
Also, if I might just continue the point----
Mr. STEVENS. Will the Senator yield?
Mr. SCHUMER. In 1 minute. I want to finish the answer to the
question. It was indeed a question and not an invitation for a
statement. I understand that.
But if this agreement was designed to address the fact that the House
hasn't completed its work yet on the supplemental, it makes it
impossible for Senators to defend the germaneness of our amendments
without the text of a House bill to which to refer. We don't know what
is in the House bill, nor if the House bill has a provision in there
which might make this germane. That is why we came to that agreement.
Again, I wish to underscore the fact that my colleague from Alaska
has honored the agreement and allowed votes on a number of amendments
which clearly would be not germane. I think our side has honored the
agreement as well, and we have tried to proceed without undue delay
with our own amendments. Yet now we are arguing that this amendment
might not be germane.
First, I disagree. It is utterly germane to the debate we are now
involved in about supporting our troops overseas. As I mentioned,
Valerie Plame was just as much a soldier in the war on terrorism. She
was an expert on weapons of mass destruction, which is the casus belli
of where we are. It is vital we get to the bottom of it.
I think this amendment is quite germane--more germane, in fact, than
others. The supplemental includes $600 million to fund further weapons
inspections. If we are going to spend $600 million, we have to know
there is an honest assessment of whatever they may find or not find
without fear of retaliation.
I understand that my colleague from Alaska has the right to object to
this under germaneness. But I also understand--and I ask the question
of him: Hasn't there been an agreement to allow nongermane amendments,
and hasn't my colleague, in keeping that agreement, allowed nongermane
amendments to be called up for a vote on the floor?
I yield to him for an answer.
Mr. STEVENS. I wonder if the Senator realizes he has just yielded the
floor.
Mr. SCHUMER. Just for a question.
Mr. STEVENS. The Senator asked me a question. But I will not argue.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, the Senator from New York
will be allowed to yield to the Senator from Alaska for the purpose of
asking a question.
Mr. SCHUMER. I thank the Chair.
Mr. STEVENS. A gentlemen's agreement was entered into that we would
not raise a point of order under rule XVI for germane amendments. But
for those that are not germane, we made no such agreement. This is not
germane to this bill. Therefore, I hope the Senator will not offer it.
As a matter of fact, I hope he will take into account another answer
which I will give to him about the question of germaneness. This matter
is now in the counterintelligence section of the Department of Justice.
That section has decades of experience and has really enormous
experience in working on matters of this type.
It is my judgment, and I ask the Senator this question: Does he
realize that this sense-of-the-Senate resolution has a connotation of
lack of confidence--no confidence--in the work of the
counterintelligence section, a group that has very distinguished career
people, and that the legislative liaison for the CIA has indicated to
me through my staff that they are following the standard procedures of
a series of administrations in handling this matter, and both the CIA
and the counterintelligence section believe there is no need for a
special counsel at this time? Does the Senator realize that this is not
something which is sought by those professionals experienced in the
area?
Mr. SCHUMER. I thank my colleague for his question. He underscores my
point. I understand what he is saying. But we have no knowledge if the
Counterintelligence Division is solely in charge of this investigation.
They have to report to the Attorney General, or to the head of the FBI,
or to somebody else at every move they make. Have they been
countermanded in where they want to go? We know none of that. In fact,
the very statement my friend from Alaska related about his staff
inquiry is the most information that has been publicly given about how
this investigation is being conducted.
The problem we are trying to get at here and the reason a special
counsel is so needed is very simple; that is, we don't know who is in
charge. My colleague from Alaska said, staff to staff, they say it is
counterintelligence.
May I yield to him for the purpose of a question only and then
reclaim the floor? I ask my colleague for that permission.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection to the Senator from New
York yielding to the Senator from Alaska for the purpose of answering a
question?
Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. SCHUMER. I thank the President. I thank my colleague from Alaska.
Does my good colleague know if Mr. Dion, head of the
Counterintelligence Division--I have nothing bad to say about him--is
required to report to anybody about whom he subpoenas, whom he
questions, what kind of facts he is allowed to pursue, or can he do
this completely on his own?
Mr. STEVENS. Mr. President, from my experience with this section--and
I do not get involved with this section too often--it is a
counterintelligence section of the Department of Justice. They have
their own system of investigation. It has a very broad agenda in terms
of portfolio. They have the scope of the whole intelligence network to
work with.
I share the Senator's umbrage about the leak. The question is, how to
handle that leak. It is in the hands of the people who are trained and
who have in the past discovered such leaks. Who will it be reported to?
I am sure the criminal division of the Department of Justice, if and
when they find who is responsible for the leak, because it is a
violation of the criminal statute.
Mr. SCHUMER. I thank my colleague for his answer. I simply say that
in an area such as this, which is so unusual, this is not just the
typical leak. The counterintelligence division handles scores of leak
cases every year. My good colleague from Alaska is correct. However,
none, as far as I am aware, have involved the revealing of the name of
an agent. It is a much more serious situation. It is a crime in itself.
The bottom line is very simple: This is so important that we cannot
leave to conjecture that the counterintelligence division generally
does a good job so we will assume they are doing a good job here. I
appreciate my colleague being on the floor when I spoke, but there have
been a number of missteps along the way not caused by the
counterintelligence division but by others. This is too important to
leave to supposition. That is why we are seeking a special counsel. We
cannot just say they generally do a good job, we assume they will do a
good job on this. This is a crime, a matter of great importance. I
would like to go further than that. That is the purpose of this
amendment which I hope my colleague will allow us to offer and vote on,
given the agreement.
I am happy to yield for another question.
Mr. STEVENS. On what basis does the Senator say this is a unique
case? In my experience, I have known several leaks and several
individuals who were apprehended for leaks, some prosecuted, some not.
Is it the Senator's impression this is a case of first impression?
Mr. SCHUMER. It is my impression, in answer to my colleague's
question, this is a question of rare impression. The number of times
the name of an agent has been publicly published in the newspaper and
leaked by somebody not on the other side but rather by somebody who is
``a high administration official,'' I cannot think of a one. I know
some spies leak names. Aldridge Ames leaked names and was punished for
it, but I don't know of a single instance where someone within the
administration leaked the name of an agent.
If it is not a first impression, it is a very rare impression, quite
different than most of the leaks we have had. That is my answer to my
colleague's
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question. I don't think this is usual or typical. I pray to God it is
not.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent to lay aside the pending
amendments and consider the amendment which I send to the desk.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
The clerk will report.
The assistant legislative clerk read as follows:
The Senator from New York [Mr. Schumer], for himself, Mr.
Daschle, Mr. Reid, Ms. Mikulski, Mr. Rockefeller, Mr. Leahy,
Mr. Levin, Mr. Nelson of Florida, Mr. Kennedy, Mr. Durbin,
Mr. Baucus, Mr. Harkin, Mr. Bayh, Mr. Hollings, Mr. Biden,
Mr. Lautenberg, Mr. Sarbanes, Mr. Bingaman, Mr. Kerry, Mr.
Wyden, Mr. Graham of Florida, Mrs. Boxer, Mr. Lieberman, Mrs.
Feinstein, Mrs. Clinton, Mr. Johnson, and Mr. Edwards,
proposes an amendment numbered 1872.
Mr. SCHUMER. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the reading
of the amendment be dispensed with.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
The amendment is as follows:
(Purpose: To express the sense of Congress concerning the appointment
of a special counsel to conduct a fair, thorough, and independent
investigation into a national security breach)
At the appropriate place, insert the following:
SEC. XX. SENSE OF CONGRESS CONCERNING THE APPOINTMENT OF A
SPECIAL COUNSEL TO CONDUCT A FAIR, THOROUGH,
AND INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION INTO A NATIONAL
SECURITY BREACH.
(a) Findings.--Congress finds that--
(1) the national security of the United States is dependent
on our intelligence operatives being able to operate
undercover and without fear of having their identities
disclosed;
(2) recent reports have indicated that administration or
White House officials may have deliberately leaked the
identity of a covert CIA agent to the media;
(3) the unauthorized disclosure of a covert intelligence
agent's identity is a Federal felony; and
(4) the Attorney General has the power to appoint a special
counsel of integrity and stature who may conduct an
investigation into the leak without the appearance of any
conflict of interest.
(b) Sense of Congress.--It is the sense of Congress that
the Attorney General of the United States should appoint a
special counsel of the highest integrity and stature to
conduct a fair, independent, and thorough investigation of
the leak and ensure that all individuals found to be
responsible for this heinous deed are punished to the fullest
extent permitted by law.
Mr. STEVENS. I thank the Senator for yielding the floor. Now, I am
sorry to say, I make a point of order under rule XVI that this
legislation on an appropriations bill is not germane.
Mr. SCHUMER. Will the Senator yield for a minute?
Mr. STEVENS. I don't know if that is debatable or not. I do not want
to lose the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The point of order is not debatable. The
Senator has raised a point of order under rule XVI. The amendment does
not appear to be germane and the point of order is sustained. The
amendment falls.
Mr. STEVENS. If I still have the floor, I say to the Senator from New
York, I have background being a U.S. attorney and being deeply involved
in intelligence matters now for 35 years. I share his umbrage at the
whole process. I will do everything I can to get to the bottom of this
matter, but I do not think this is the time for a special counsel.
There may come a time it will be required.
Mr. REID. Will the Senator yield for a question?
Mr. STEVENS. Yes.
Mr. REID. You talk legal background, but you did not go to a very
good law school, did you?
Mr. STEVENS. No.
Amendment No. 1873
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Illinois.
Mr. DURBIN. I have an amendment which is on the list which has been
announced, and I would like to send this amendment to the desk. I ask
unanimous consent it be put in the appropriate place of the queue of
amendments to be considered later on this day.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. STEVENS. Parliamentary inquiry.
Mr. DURBIN. I ask unanimous consent that the amendment be sent to the
desk, be set aside, and be scheduled at an appropriate time as agreed
to on both sides. I would like the remaining 5 minutes before the vote.
Mr. STEVENS. My parliamentary inquiry is, may I raise rule XVI at
this point?
HIV/AIDS is not germane to this bill, either.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The amendment has not yet been reported.
Mr. STEVENS. I do not object to receiving the request.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, the clerk will report.
The assistant legislative clerk read as follows:
The Senator from Illinois [Mr. Durbin], for himself and Mr.
Leahy, Mr. Feingold, and Mr. Lautenberg, proposes an
amendment numbered 1873.
Mr. DURBIN. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the reading
of the amendment be dispensed with.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
The amendment is as follows:
(Purpose: To provide funds for the prevention, treatment, and control
of, and research on HIV/AIDS)
At the appropriate place, insert the following:
Sec. XX. (a) Global HIV/AIDS Funding.--For necessary
expenses to carry out the provisions of the Foreign
Assistance Act of 1961 for the prevention, treatment, and
control of, and research on HIV/AIDS, in addition to funds
appropriated under the heading ''Global AIDS Initiative'' in
the Foreign Operations, Export Financing, and Related
Programs Act, 2004, $879,700,000 to remain available until
expended: Provided, That the funds appropriated by this
section shall be made available in accordance with the amount
authorized in accordance with sections 202(d)(1) and 202
(d)(4)of Public Law 108-25.
(b) Offset.--The total amount appropriated under title II
under the heading ``OTHER BILATERAL ECONOMIC ASSISTANCE--
FUNDS APPROPRIATED TO THE PRESIDENT--Iraq Relief and
Reconstruction Fund'' (other than the amount appropriated for
Iraqi border enforcement and enhanced security communications
and the amount appropriated for the establishment of an Iraqi
national security force and Iraqi Defense Corps) shall be
reduced by $879,700,000.
(c) Notification.--
(1) In general.--Not later than 30 days after the date of
enactment of this Act, the President shall consult with, and
provide a written report to, the appropriate committees of
Congress, concerning the amount by which each sector,
program, and activity is reduced pursuant to subsection (b).
(2) Committee procedures.--The report submitted under
paragraph (1) shall be subject to the regular notification
procedures of the Committee on Appropriations of the Senate
and the Committee on Appropriations of the House of
Representatives.
Mr. STEVENS. Mr. President it is my understanding this is an
amendment pertaining to HIV/AIDS, and I support all activities
concerning that, but it is not germane to this bill.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Alaska raises a point of
order under rule XVI.
Mr. DURBIN. Mr. President, may I address the point of order?
Mr. STEVENS. A point of order is not debatable.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Chair will entertain debate on the motion.
Mr. DURBIN. It is my understanding this $87 billion emergency
appropriations requested by the administration includes foreign aid
that is going to the nation of Iraq as well as Afghanistan. What I am
suggesting is this item, some $800 million, in the nature of foreign
aid be sent to fight the global AIDS epidemic. It would seem it is
germane to the same issue before the Senate in the pending supplemental
appropriations bill.
Mr. STEVENS. That would be earmarking this money for a matter that is
not germane for this bill. It is true that money could be used for that
purpose, but I do not believe amendments are in order to start
earmarking this money for items that are not germane to the bill.
I am raising that it is legislation on the appropriations bill.
Mr. DURBIN. Parliamentary inquiry.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Illinois.
Mr. DURBIN. Could the Chair address the question of the defense of
germaneness if we are not entertaining a bill first passed by the
House.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Restate the question.
Mr. DURBIN. Could the Chair inform me as to the defense of
germaneness and whether it applies in this situation
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where we are not dealing with a bill already passed by the House and a
question as to whether our amendment is germane to that House-passed
bill?
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The defense of germaneness does not apply when
the Senate is considering a Senate bill.
Mr. DURBIN. Is the Chair prepared to rule on the germaneness question
raised by the Senator from Alaska?
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Chair's understanding is the Senator from
Alaska has challenged the amendment on the grounds that it is
legislating on appropriations.
Mr. DURBIN. I am sorry, I thought--
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Chair is prepared to rule.
Mr. DURBIN. Is that debatable?
The PRESIDING OFFICER. No, the ruling is not debatable.
The point of order is sustained. The Chair rules the amendment
constitutes legislating on an appropriations bill. The amendment falls.
Amendment No. 1818
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Under the previous order, there will now be 4
minutes of debate equally divided on each side on the Byrd amendment.
Who yields time?
The Senator from West Virginia.
Mr. BYRD. Mr. President, this amendment is cosponsored by Senators
Byrd, Kennedy, Leahy, Boxer, Harkin, Jeffords, and Kerry.
The administration needs to change its course in Iraq. If the United
States is ever to work successfully with the international community to
obtain the contributions of troops and money that are needed to share
the heavy burden of postwar Iraq, the White House must take real steps
to share power with the United Nations.
The Byrd-Kennedy-Leahy amendment would push the administration to do
more to share power in Iraq. It would also require the President to
submit reports to Congress about the participation of other countries
in Iraq, as well as a plan for supporting American troops by bringing
them home.
The amendment gives the President $10.1 billion in reconstruction
funds immediately but requires another vote by Congress before the
other $10.2 billion in reconstruction funds can be spent.
It is imperative that Congress review the situation in 6 months to
determine whether the President's efforts at the U.N. have paid off in
more foreign contributions to the future of Iraq. Congress should also
evaluate the President's plan for how to get the U.N. in, and the U.S.
out of, Iraq. A vote in 6 months' time on whether to release the
additional $10.2 billion in reconstruction funding would give Congress
the opportunity to make a midcourse correction if our occupation of
Iraq is still going poorly.
The Byrd-Kennedy-Leahy amendment is a simple amendment to help
Congress watch the people's money and to support our troops by getting
the international help they need.
Mr. President, I urge the Senators to support the amendment.
I yield the floor.
Mr. KERRY. Mr. President, 6 months ago, President Bush took the
country to war with Iraq, without the support of key allies other than
Britain, without the support of the international community at large.
We didn't need international support to win the war. We all knew that
our brave fighting men and women would defeat Saddam Hussein's forces
easily. But we did--and we do--need the international community to help
us win the peace--a painfully obvious truth that this administration
has steadfastly refused to accept.
As long as Iraqis see us as occupiers rather than liberators, our
troops will remain at increased risk and our efforts to rebuild Iraq's
economy and political system will be suspect. The process of
reconstructing Iraq and creating a new Iraqi government must be an
international process--not an American process. Only then will it gain
full legitimacy in the eyes of the Iraqi people and the world.
The Bush administration's brazen go-it-alone policy has placed the
burden and the bill for rebuilding Iraq almost solely on the shoulders
of the American people. They don't deserve it, and they don't want it.
We need an immediate change of course.
For months I have been urging the administration to bring the United
Nations and the international community into the process of rebuilding
Iraq's economy and political system. The United Nations must be given a
clearly defined, central role in the reconstruction of Iraq and in the
process of establishing a new Iraqi government. U.N. Secretary General
Kofi Annan has been very clear: he will not send U.N. personnel back to
Iraq--and risk their lives--without improvements in the security
situation and an unambiguous U.N. role with clear lines of authority.
In my view, the best way to achieve this is to transfer the authority
over reconstruction and governance to the United Nations. The United
Nations is not perfect but it has far more experience and capacity in
these areas than the Pentagon and the Coalition Provisional Authority.
Finally, the Iraqi people must be assured that political power and
responsibility for reconstruction will be transferred to them quickly.
The administration's resolution, which the Security Council passed
today, is long overdue. It will provide a modicum of international
legitimacy which is essential to our success in Iraq. And it does
require that the Iraqi Governing Council lay out by December 15 of this
year a timetable and program for the drafting of a constitution and
national elections. But this resolution does not fundamentally change
the lines of authority and responsibility for the reconstruction and
governance of Iraq. It is really more show than substance. The
resolution will not gain meaningful international support for our
efforts in Iraq. After months of dismissing and ridiculing the
international community, the Bush administration will not gain tangible
support for our efforts in Iraq--that is, boots on the ground and money
in the coffers at this month's donor conference--as a result of this
resolution.
In simply terms, the Security Council resolution adopted today is not
the triumph of diplomacy, but rather the beginning of a much-needed
process to bring real international support to our effort.
We in the Congress have a responsibility to push the administration
to advance the diplomatic effort and not rest content with a fig leaf
resolution that hides what remains an American occupation in Iraq. The
amendment that Senator Byrd is offering, which I am pleased to
cosponsor, seeks to do just that. It requires the President to certify
that the U.N. resolution provides tangible international contributions,
including substantial troop and financial contributions from other
countries. In addition, it requires the administration to certify that
reconstruction activities are being implemented in accordance with a
new detailed plan to be submitted to the Congress no later than March 1
of next year.
This is a good amendment. It sends a clear message to the
administration: You need a real, detailed plan for reconstruction Iraq
and you need to do the hard work of diplomacy to internationalize the
military and civilian sides of the operation to reduce the risks to our
soldiers on the ground and take some of the financial burden off the
American taxpayer.
I urge my colleagues to support it.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator's time has expired.
Who yields time?
The Senator from Alaska.
Mr. STEVENS. Mr. President, the amendment is an amendment that will
require Congress to enact another appropriations for the balance of the
reconstruction money. It will cap the reconstruction funds at $5
billion. It puts another road block in the way of the reconstruction
efforts.
I referred earlier to yesterday's editorial in the Washington Post,
which said:
Paying to improve life for Iraqis will help create a safer
environment for U.S. troops and will hasten the day they can
leave. Rebuilding the electricity grid, fixing the water
supply, getting the oil flowing, maintaining public safety--
all this is central to hopes for stability and representative
government.
I think the loss of momentum that will come from requiring another
bill to be enacted before we get more money for reconstruction will
destroy the whole concept of the plan that Ambassador Bremer is working
on.
I call to the attention of the Senate, I also put in a letter I
received by fax from Ambassador Bremer just today reaffirming his plea
to us to pass this bill as soon as possible.
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I do not think it is in the best interests of our troops. I do not
think it is in the best interests of the Iraqi people. It certainly is
not in the best interests of the person in charge of the whole effort,
Ambassador Bremer, for the Byrd amendment to be approved.
For that reason, I move to table the Byrd amendment and ask for the
yeas and nays.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there a sufficient second?
There appears to be a sufficient second.
The question is on agreeing to the motion to table amendment No.
1818. The clerk will call the roll.
The assistant legislative clerk called the roll.
Mr. REID. I announce that the Senator from Connecticut (Mr.
Lieberman) is necessarily absent.
The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Crapo). Are there any other Senators in
the Chamber desiring to vote?
The result was announced--yeas 57, nays 42, as follows:
[Rollcall Vote No. 385 Leg.]
YEAS--57
Alexander
Allard
Allen
Bayh
Bennett
Bond
Breaux
Brownback
Bunning
Burns
Campbell
Chafee
Chambliss
Cochran
Coleman
Collins
Cornyn
Craig
Crapo
Dayton
DeWine
Dole
Domenici
Ensign
Enzi
Fitzgerald
Frist
Graham (SC)
Grassley
Gregg
Hagel
Hatch
Hutchison
Inhofe
Kyl
Landrieu
Lott
Lugar
McCain
McConnell
Miller
Murkowski
Nelson (NE)
Nickles
Roberts
Santorum
Sessions
Shelby
Smith
Snowe
Specter
Stevens
Sununu
Talent
Thomas
Voinovich
Warner
NAYS--42
Akaka
Baucus
Biden
Bingaman
Boxer
Byrd
Cantwell
Carper
Clinton
Conrad
Corzine
Daschle
Dodd
Dorgan
Durbin
Edwards
Feingold
Feinstein
Graham (FL)
Harkin
Hollings
Inouye
Jeffords
Johnson
Kennedy
Kerry
Kohl
Lautenberg
Leahy
Levin
Lincoln
Mikulski
Murray
Nelson (FL)
Pryor
Reed
Reid
Rockefeller
Sarbanes
Schumer
Stabenow
Wyden
NOT VOTING--1
Lieberman
The motion was agreed to.