[Congressional Record Volume 149, Number 133 (Thursday, September 25, 2003)]
[Senate]
[Pages S11935-S11938]
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THE FEDERAL DEFICIT
Mr. NELSON of Florida. Mr. President, on a completely different
subject, as a Nation, we are recklessly careening down the road toward
bankruptcy. In the fiscal year that ends in a week, September 30, we
are going to be hemorrhaging in our budget to the tune of $500 billion.
That is a half trillion dollars.
In the new fiscal year that starts October 1, it is estimated we are
going to be hemorrhaging to the tune of $600 billion, well over a half
trillion dollars. Just to put it in perspective, in the decade of the
1980s, when we ran up so much of our national debt, the max in any one
year in the late 1980s was a deficit of $280 billion. That means we
were spending $280 billion more than we had coming in in revenue.
Therefore, we had to go out and borrow it, and that added to the
national debt.
The next fiscal year starts in a few days. We are going to spend more
than we have coming in tax revenue to the tune of $600 billion and we
have to borrow it. Now, where do my colleagues think we borrow it from?
We borrow it from folks like you and me, when we buy Treasury bills. We
borrow it from institutional investors like pension funds. But it will
shock people to know that a good bit of the debt that is being
acquired, or debt that is being bought--or to put it in the vernacular
of the street, the people who we are borrowing from are the Chinese and
the Saudis. Does that not portend some uncomfortable things for America
to have a good part of its national debt owned by folks who from time
to time we have serious policy differences with?
How did we get into this? September 11 clearly was part of the
problem. To protect this Nation, the war in Afghanistan and the war in
Iraq have caused additional spending, but that is not the only reason
for the $600 billion deficit. It was because in the spring of 2001, by
a one-vote margin, on a technical part of the budget bill, this Chamber
of the Senate passed an instruction that by a majority vote we could
pass a tax bill and that tax bill, once we passed it, diminished the
revenues so much that the deficit started to swell. We are on a
reckless fiscal course, headed toward bankruptcy. Is it any wonder that
earlier we heard the majority leader and the Democratic leader going at
it over this question of addressing the President's $87 billion
request? That is going to add all the more to the budget deficit. We
are going to pass the $67 billion that is going to the troops because
our troops are going to be provided what they need. But for the
remaining $20 billion that is for building 1,000 schools in Iraq, what
do we tell our constituents at home about building schools here? For
that $20 billion that is to fix water systems and roads and bridges in
Iraq, what are we to tell our constituents in America about the water
systems and the roads and the bridges?
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The time of the Senator has expired.
Mr. NELSON of Florida. I thank the Presiding Officer for giving me
the remainder of the time.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Minnesota.
Mr. COLEMAN. Mr. President, I wish to first associate myself with the
comments of my friend and colleague, the Senator from Florida, with
regard to concerns he raised about all the stress on the National Guard
and Reserve. I have been to a number of deployments of troops of the
National Guard and Reserve from Minnesota. Our folks are serving
admirably and bravely, and there is great stress. I think it is clearly
important to make sure we do the things to alleviate the strain, not
just on the folks on the front line but on the families, and creating a
bit of certainty would be good thing to do. It is not a partisan thing.
It is the right thing to do for the folks who are serving so bravely
and for their families. So I thank my distinguished colleague from
Florida for raising this concern and wish to let him know there are
many of us on both sides of the aisle who share that concern and would
like a greater sense of certainty.
What does it mean to have boots on the ground? When are our folks
coming home? We do have to give them every bit of support we can when
they are there. But certainly for the families, the words of my
colleague ring true and I associate myself with them.
I do disagree with my colleague from Florida when it comes to his
discussion about the economy and the cause and the impact of debt. By
the way, debt is a bad thing. I am not going to spend a lot of time
talking about that right now, but I do certainly want to raise the
issue. The national debt today is not as great as it was in the 1980s,
not if you measure it as a percentage of the overall economy. That is
the way we have to do it. If you bought a house in the 1980s and you
spent $30,000 and you put $15,000 down, $15,000 in cash, you would be
in debt 50 percent. As time went on, inflation went on, and you made a
little money and you bought a second house in the 1990s, or today, for
$100,000, and you borrowed only $30,000, you would be twice as much
indebted as you were in the 1980s, but the $30,000 as a percent of the
overall value of the house would be less, only 30 percent.
The reality is that the debt today is less than it was in the 1980s.
That is not to say debt is ever a good thing, but I think you have to
make the facts very clear.
It is also important to understand the cause of that. Let's never
forget that September 11 had a devastating impact on the economy of
this country. Let's not forget that WorldCom and Enron and the
corporate scandals that undermined the confidence of investors in
corporate America--undermined it--had a devastating impact on the
American economy. And let us not forget this economy was rolling into
recession, was moving into recession at the time President Bush was
elected. All these things had an impact.
The other concern and observation I have to make, as a Senator who
has been here at this point only about 9 months, is my distinguished
friends and colleagues on the other side of the aisle, many of them,
have consistently talked about the debt, they have great concerns about
the debt, yet the reality has been that every time we have acted on
budgets, one of the first things that I and, as a newly elected Member
of this body, the Presiding Officer did was we had to resolve the
budget for 2003 as soon as we got here. On issue after issue, my
friends and colleagues from across the aisle, who loudly proclaim
concern about the debt, sought to raise the spending. They sought to
increase spending, I believe to the tune of perhaps $1 trillion of new
spending.
So it is hard to hear folks being concerned about the debt when, on
issue after issue, they seek to raise spending. We have experienced
that as we have gone through the process of approving the 2004 budget.
On issue after issue, whatever amount is set in the budget to spend, my
colleagues from across the aisle seek to increase that, again to the
tune, calculated over 10-year periods, of trillions of dollars. Even
for the Government, a trillion dollars is real money.
So, yes, the debt is of concern. The way you deal with the debt is
you get the economy moving. That is what the President has done. That
is what the tax cuts have stimulated. And then you have the will and
resolve to keep a lid on spending.
Again, I urge my friends from across the aisle, every time you vote
to increase spending, time and again, take a breath then before you
talk about the debt.
I came here this morning to support the President's request for a
supplemental appropriation of $87 billion to support our troops in Iraq
and to accelerate the redevelopment of that country to a stable,
democratic, and peaceful member of the community of nations. As
Senators, we have two responsibilities in this matter. As members of
the legislative branch of Government, we must put the administration's
proposals to the test to ensure they are prudent, practical, and can
achieve the promised results. That is what we do as a legislative body.
We also have a responsibility to support our Commander in Chief as
he leads us as a nation.
I love the story told about Abraham Lincoln during the time he was
leading our Nation in the Civil War. He was
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getting, on a regular basis, communications from an elderly woman who
said to him that God was talking to her and God was telling her which
general to hire and which general to fire and where to attack and where
to retreat. He got this series of letters. Finally, President Lincoln
wrote back to this lady and said: Ma'am, I want to thank you for your
correspondence and thank you for your advice, but isn't it fascinating
how the Lord Almighty has given you all the answers but gave me the
job.
We have a Commander in Chief. We have the right to question and
modify the things he proposes. But it is our responsibility, I submit,
to work expeditiously and to approve these urgently needed resources.
I express my strong hope that this bill will not be held hostage to
political ambitions or become the vehicle of high-profile second-
guessing. Our effort in Iraq has many challenges, but lack of politics
is not one of them. This debate falls in a tempting place on the
electoral calendar, but I do hope we rise above a talk show mentality.
There was talk this morning: Why do we have to move quickly on the
President's request? What is so urgent about it? Does the money need to
be spent right away? Kind of a slow walk and no sense of urgency.
I do hope those concerns are not raised so that we simply can extend
the possibly to have in the political arena debate for the sake of
taking political potshots. That is not what this is about. That is not
what this body is about. We need to send a message to our troops in the
field that we support them and will provide them the resources they
need. We need to send a message to the Iraqi people that we are
committed to working with Iraq to ensure that democracy is there. You
can't have democracy when the lights are out 8 hours a day. We are
seeing in Washington and Virginia how difficult it is to operate when
the lights aren't on. Multiply that many times over.
I am concerned about the nature of the debate that comes with our
involvement in Iraq. Debate is what this body expects and understands,
but there is a tone about the debate that is of great concern because
others watch. There is discussion now about whether this is the
President's war.
Before you and I entered this body on October 11, 2002, there was a
debate about what action we should take regarding Iraq, what authority
we should give the President regarding Iraq.
There was a full debate. There was a great dialog. There was great
discussion. This body voted. The sense of this body was 77 to 23 to
support the President and to give the President the authority to do the
things that had to be done to make sure Saddam Hussein complied with
the United Nations resolutions. Let us not forget that for a period of
10 years he disregarded United Nations resolutions.
By a vote of 77 to 23--not 51 to 49, not a 50 to 50 tie asking the
Vice President to break that tie--a broad bipartisan coalition, an
overwhelming majority of the Senate, said: This is our battle, this is
America's battle, and the responsibility we have as elected
representatives to speak for the people we represent and give voice to
their hopes and concerns was reflected in that debate.
When others now talk about the ``President's war,'' it causes great
concern.
I like the words of the ``Serenity Prayer.'' I hope we have the
wisdom to address ourselves in the things we can change and not try to
change the past.
I say to my colleagues that one of my pleasures as a Senator from the
State of Minnesota is to represent the western shore of Lake Superior,
the world's largest body of freshwater. If you visit this area during
the right time of year, you will see the enormous iron ore boats that
transport Minnesota iron ore to the steel plants of the eastern Great
Lakes. These gigantic boats are so large that it takes them many hours
and many miles to execute a turn into port.
The bigger something is, the longer it takes to turn it around. Such
is our challenge in Iraq. We are attempting to turn a large society
from a generation of tyranny and totalitarianism to democracy and free
enterprise.
For over 25 years, the people of Iraq suffered under the brutality of
Saddam Hussein. For over 25 years, the people of Iraq didn't even have
a budget. Its infrastructure was eaten away as resources were simply
given to Saddam for his friends and for his palaces, and the country
suffered.
I find it ironic that some critics of our policy who said we could
never defeat Saddam Hussein are now loudly complaining that it takes
too long. In our instant-everything, drive-through, microwave society,
we perhaps have lost sight of the fact that some things take time. The
bigger the thing, the more time it takes.
To those who lament our supposed slow progress in Iraq, we are
exceeding any realistic expectations of success. Rome was not built in
a day and Iraq won't be, either. The lasting social structures in Iraq
need to rest on firm foundations and progress. And those foundations
are being made.
To those who say we need to turn Iraq over to the Iraqis, we want to
turn it over to the Iraqis. We want the Iraqis to be in charge. We want
the Iraqis to be guarding the hospitals and the oil wells. We want the
Iraqis to be responsible for the future of Iraq. But in order to have
that, you have to have a foundation. Iraq has to develop a
constitution. It needs to be affirmed. When it is affirmed, it then
needs to have free and fair elections. That is how to develop the
foundation.
As we are developing that foundation, we are making progress in
developing Iraqi security forces and police units which can begin to
take the load off the American and coalition military units.
We are helping the Iraqi oil industry and its power generation come
back to some semblance of functionality. The Central Iraqi Bank has
taken bold steps to create a secure currency. Some of the most dramatic
steps that any government has to set for itself is to be open to trade,
to be open to entrepreneurship, and to be open to opportunity. These
are bold moves in any part of the world but certainly in Iraq.
The Governing Council has just taken steps to open the country to
foreign investment.
You heard earlier today my colleague, the distinguished chairman of
the Energy Committee, Senator Domenici, talking about the Ministers of
Iraq and the number of Ph.Ds--one of the most educated governments
anywhere in the world--and the caliber of folks we are bringing to the
table.
The Poles have already assumed command of a multinational division in
Iraq with NATO support. We have captured or killed over 40 of the 55
most-wanted Iraqis, including one more over the weekend, Saddam's
Minister of Defense.
I mentioned the Governing Council being formed. I am told there is
even a city council in Baghdad. I must say as a former mayor that when
I heard there was a city council in Baghdad, my first thought was,
Haven't the Iraqis suffered enough? But a city council is there and
operating.
Thousands of Iraqi policemen and soldiers are being hired and trained
to help provide security for their nation. Every hospital and clinic in
Baghdad is operating, as are most of the others around the country.
Every hospital and clinic in Baghdad is operating. The clinics and
hospitals in Iraq have 7,500 tons of medicine distributed by the
coalition since May, an increase of over 700 percent over the level at
the end of the war.
For the first time in its history, all of Baghdad has garbage
collection service. No longer is garbage collection a privilege
reserved for neighbors favored by the Government.
Again, I reflect back to my days as a mayor and the importance of
basic services being provided to all of the citizenry and not just for
the rich neighborhoods. We are doing that in Iraq.
Iraqi workers are producing over 1 million barrels of oil per day,
the proceeds of which will benefit the Iraqi people rather than Saddam
Hussein's corrupt regime. Ninety-two thousand Iraqis receive social
security and welfare benefits at levels four times higher than they
received under Saddam. One point three million Iraqi civil servants are
drawing salaries under a new salary scale. Many of them, such as
teachers, are being paid four times what they were paid under Saddam.
The test of our efforts is that the Iraqi people are voting with
their feet. They are staying put. There has been no humanitarian
crisis. There has been
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no flood of refugees as had been predicted. The $87 billion in this
bill will bolster all of these critical efforts.
We all need to put the daily events so effusively reported in Iraq in
perspective. We see this, by the way, even in our own Nation. A lot of
good is being done but somehow that doesn't always qualify as news.
I believe the President's leadership is beginning to pay dividends,
even at the United Nations. It is a slow boat to turn as well, but I
believe we will soon see progress towards broad international
cooperation for the rebuilding of Iraq. Even the French say they will
not now veto a resolution.
The President met with the head of Germany yesterday and had a good
conversation.
Let there be no mistake. We are in a state of war against terrorism.
Our decisions and the tone of our debate must recognize that fact.
Forces that seek to destroy us are measuring our will and our resolve
at each turn. Their view is that we are weak and easily distracted and
divided. We must prove to them the truth--that we are not. We do that
by what our military does on the ground every day. We do that by how we
as leaders conduct this debate in this body.
Again, I recognize the importance of debate and challenging ideas and
propositions. But there is a tone about debate and I worry that we are
crossing the line. I worry that when we talk about this being the
President's war, again disregarding the fact that this body, in a broad
bipartisan way, raised its hand and understood the dangers of Saddam,
understood the evil of Saddam and the evil impact he had on the Iraqi
people, the impact that it was having on the region, the impact it was
having on Israel, and the impact it was having on terrorism; understood
that we had in Saddam and Iraq a nation which took care of and catered
to the persons who masterminded the terrorist acts in the airports in
Rome and Vienna; a nation that coddled, took care of and exalted the
terrorists responsible for the execution of an American in a
wheelchair, Leon Klinghoffer on the Achilles Lauro in Athens--everybody
understood what we were dealing with.
We rose together in unison. Let us not now forget. Let us not now
pull apart. Let us not now send the signal that we are weak and in
disarray. It is important to have a sense of strength and purpose. Let
us have the debate but let us make decisions.
In World War I, the French soldiers came up with the saying that
``the difference between a hero and a coward is the hero is brave 2
minutes longer.'' We cannot afford to lose our nerve at the point of
victory or all the sacrifice and the progress to date could be lost.
For those who question this amount of money being spent at times of
economic difficulty and high deficits, I understand that concern. It is
so easy to say, with anything we do, if we put dollars into something,
why aren't we taking care of the needs of kids? Why aren't we taking
care of the needs of schools? Why aren't we taking care of seniors? The
arguments can certainly be made, and they touch a sympathetic chord, a
sympathetic note.
The reality is we have to understand again and again that you cannot
have economic security, you cannot have peace of mind, you cannot have
the opportunity for your kids to go to good schools, and folks to live
in peace in their neighborhoods and go about their daily lives if we
live in fear. The world changed after September 11. We have to reflect
on the impact of September 11, not just psychologically but
economically.
What happens when we allow terrorism to visit our shores? The folks
in Washington, DC, saw this very graphically during the terrible period
when the sniper was on the loose in Washington, and people would not go
out of their homes. They were afraid to go to a gas station, afraid to
shop, afraid to go to a restaurant. I have not seen the final bills,
but I am sure the economic impact was enormous. When people live in
fear, they cannot prosper economically or emotionally.
America has a responsibility at this point in history--for the sake
of our kids, for the sake of our seniors, for the sake of our parents--
to do those things necessary to live in peace, to confront and deal
with terrorism. We learned on September 11 we cannot contain terrorism.
We have to aggressively reach out to make sure we do all we can to make
sure terrorism does not visit our shores.
It is not a matter of saying, if we did not put this money here we
would put it there. The reality is, of the $87 billion, $67 billion
goes directly to the military. It is also to rebuild the infrastructure
of Iraq so that the military ethics can take hold. We cannot have such
short memories.
Ambassador Bremer visited with many Senators this last week and gave
a little historical lesson. He said: Look at what we did after World
War I. We did not step in. We did not have the sense of heart and
purpose to come together and say we were going to deal with the
destruction left in the wake. We gave rise to Nazism, to fascism. What
happened is, ultimately, millions of lives were lost.
I am of the Jewish faith. In our faith we say: We shall never forget;
we shall never forget the Holocaust. The seeds of that were laid in the
actions after World War I that were not taken to deal with the plight,
deal with the economic plight, deal with the disarray, deal with the
disintegration.
After World War II, we took a very different path. After World War
II, we enacted a Marshall plan, and we came together, with the United
States taking the lead; the international community then joining in
building up and restoring the economy, doing things that restored hope,
doing things that restored water and electricity. The result is Europe
has been safer. We have been safer until the rise of terrorism.
Let us not forget those models. Let us not forget that history.
Success will build world confidence and investment far beyond this
investment in Iraq. Failure would cost far more.
All of these practical arguments notwithstanding, I close with a
simple argument for the passage of this supplemental appropriation: It
is the right thing to do. Our troops need our support. The people of
Iraq, present and future, need our help. The world that hopes for far
more freedom and less terror needs what only the United States can
provide. We can reach out and set an example to the international
community to join with us.
This bill is the right thing to do. It is the right for the people of
Iraq who are free from the torture chambers so they may never come back
again. It is the right thing to do for the young women of Iraq who are
raped and assaulted by Quday and Usay Hussein. It is the right thing to
do for the memory of thousands murdered and buried in mass graves, and
for their justice; for the millions of Iraqi people who will choose
their own path, live their own lives, and decide their own faith when
we set the foundation, set the table for restoration of democracy, firm
and lasting in Iraq.
It is the right thing to do for the millions of neighbors of Iraq who
will not fear the unbearable fanaticism of a dictator more concerned
about power than the moral obligation of leadership. It is the right
thing to do for our democratic ally in Israel who no longer will face
the threat of Scud missiles from Iraq. It is the right thing to do for
the courage of our American soldiers who have performed their duty and
lived up to their oath to defend and protect the national interests of
their Nation.
It is the right thing to do for the memory of American soldiers who
have given their lives so that others may live in freedom. It is the
right thing to do for the millions of Americans and the 3,000 who died
on September 11 that American determination, resolve, and will are not
things of the past but are ironclad promises for the future.
It is the right thing to do for the message it sends to those who
support terrorism, that they will have no refuge; for the message it
sends to those who kill, who terrorize, who destroy the hopes, dreams,
and happiness of men and women and children that this is a new day, a
better world. Their days are numbered. No more can we accept the crying
faces, parents holding their dying children, parents burying their dead
children. To those who seek to destroy, those who choose to unravel the
fabric of society and civilization, this bill is the right thing to do
because it makes it clear their time will come; our resolve is strong.
We will support our fighting men and women and give them what they need
to do the job.
We will work with the Iraqi people to rebuild and create a foundation
where
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democracy and hope will take place. Good will triumph over evil.
Democracy will triumph over tyranny. Security will triumph over
terrorism. Peace will come to Iraq. And all of us in America will be
safer as a result.
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