[Congressional Record Volume 149, Number 108 (Monday, July 21, 2003)]
[Senate]
[Pages S9626-S9628]
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A CONSTANT DRUMBEAT
Mr. BENNETT. Mr. President, the constant drumbeat in the press goes
on. We find it highlighted in this week's national news magazines: a
constant attack on the credibility of George W. Bush; a constant
drumbeat calling him a liar, at the very least an exaggerator who did
it deliberately to mislead the American people and to take us to war.
Those in the media who get involved need to be reminded just a little
bit of their responsibility. It is their responsibility to react not
just to the flavor of the moment, in terms of political issues, but to
give us a little bit of institutional memory. Since they seem to lack
that memory, I will do my best to supply it here this afternoon.
I remember as a Member of this body some intelligence lapses that
occurred and decisions that were made on the basis of those lapses. Let
me give you some.
I remember when the United States bombed a pharmaceutical plant in
Sudan because the intelligence said it was a place where biological
weapons were being created. This was not a trivial matter. I went to
the room here in the Capitol that is reserved for secret briefings. I
refer to it as the secret room where secret people tell us secret
things, and I had no less than the Secretary of Defense absolutely
insist that the intelligence was rock solid that biological weapons
were being produced at this plant in Sudan.
We now know the intelligence was wrong. The plant was not involved in
the production of biological or chemical weapons. The intelligence
information that led us to believe it had been was flawed, it was old,
and the casualties that occurred on that occasion were civilians who
needlessly lost their lives because the American intelligence was bad.
The question is: Would we have been better off if we had not
destroyed that plant in the Sudan? And the answer is clearly yes.
Intelligence let us down. We made the wrong decision. We killed some
civilians. We would have been better off if we had not proceeded.
The second lapse of intelligence occurred during the bombing in
Bosnia. I was involved in this one to a greater degree than the other.
This is where the Americans bombed what they thought was a legitimate
target and it turned out to be the Chinese Embassy. Furthermore, it was
more than just the Chinese Embassy. It was the center of Chinese
intelligence activity that covered most of that part of Europe.
I was in China on a congressional delegation not long after that
occurred. One after another Chinese official kept berating me and the
other members of the delegation as to why we had deliberately targeted
and destroyed a key intelligence center for the Chinese.
Our answer was that this was an intelligence failure on our part;
that the CIA was using an old address book, and we had not realized we
were, in fact,
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destroying a very sensitive Chinese installation.
I remember the response from a Chinese official as we made that
explanation. He said: You Americans have the best intelligence in the
world. You have been following what we have been doing in that part of
the world for years. You destroyed a major intelligence asset of ours,
and you claim it was a mistake? You claim your intelligence assets were
so bad you did not realize we had been at that location for years?
It was very clear from the questions and the tone of voice with which
those questions were asked that the Chinese officials did not believe
us. They did not believe we were capable of such a stupid mistake.
The only defense that could be offered, and it was offered by another
member of the delegation, was it had to be a mistake because, in fact,
it was so stupid. No one would have done that deliberately and damaged
the relationship between the United States and the Chinese so
seriously.
It was in response to that the U.S. Embassy in Beijing was stoned. I
saw the windows that were broken. I saw the bullet holes that pocked
the walls as people fired on the Embassy. It was a major incident.
Again, the fundamental question: Would we have been better off if we
had not done it? And the answer is an unequivocal and overwhelming,
yes; we would have been better off if we had not done it.
I could go on, but let me take those two examples of failed
intelligence and those two questions--would we have been better off if
we had not done it in the Sudan, and would we have been better off if
we had not done it in Belgrade--and put them in the context of today's
debate.
Let's assume for a moment--and I underscore that I do not--that the
intelligence that led up to the decision to go ahead in Iraq was as
faulty as the administration's critics are now claiming it was, and
then ask the same fundamental question: Would the world be better off
if we had not gone into Iraq? And the answer is clearly, no. The answer
is clearly as Tony Blair laid it out before the joint session of
Congress. He made it clear if we made a mistake, history will forgive
the mistake because the consequences of it were that we freed the Iraqi
people. We brought a degree of credibility and stability into that
region that has not been there. We have new leverage to deal with the
Israeli/Palestinian question beyond that which any American President
has had.
If, in fact, we blundered into Iraq--and, once again, I underscore
the fact I do not believe we did--we did a good thing. Unlike the
failed intelligence that caused us to blow up a civilian production
facility in the Sudan, which was a bad thing, unlike the failed
intelligence that caused us to destroy the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade,
which was a bad thing, if there was flawed intelligence here that
caused us to go into Iraq, it was still a good thing.
Let me give an example of flawed intelligence with respect to Iraq.
We did not know, going into Iraq, the degree to which Saddam Hussein
had committed genocide against his own people. With all of the
intelligence assets we had on the ground in Iraq, we were unaware of
the number and extent of the mass graves that we are still uncovering
while we are there. If we are going to complain, as those in the media
are doing, that the intelligence going into Iraq was flawed, they
should complain just as much about the failure of intelligence to tell
us the degree of his brutality. But they are not talking about that. We
do not get any media reports with each new discovery of a major new
mass grave. Those are dismissed in what is called the mainstream media
because that might lend support to the idea that going into Iraq was
the right thing to have done.
No, instead we are quibbling over words that appeared in the State of
the Union that somehow triggered massive misunderstanding on the part
of the American people. I would challenge anyone to go to anyone in
America and ask them how many of them remember the 16 words that are
being challenged. Well, maybe the American people do not remember those
words but certainly the Congress does.
There is a slight problem with that because the State of the Union
Message was given after the Congress had approved the President's
intervention in Iraq. The vote was taken on this floor prior to the
time the President made those statements. So how can anyone in this
body claim that he or she was misled by the President's statement in
the State of the Union when the vote was taken prior to the time that
statement was made?
Once again, that is a fact that is conveniently left out of all of
the media analysis. They do not tell us that Congress went to the
briefings and came to its conclusion as to the rightness of the
decision in Iraq before the President made that comment in the State of
the Union.
I went to the briefings. There was a briefing at the Pentagon that I
remember very carefully. We went over for breakfast with the Secretary
of Defense and he gave us a complete briefing on the entire issue of
weapons of mass destruction and where things were in Iraq. I must say I
did not see any of the current critics of the President's plan present
at that briefing. I remember fairly clearly who was there. I could not
name all of the Senators who were there, but I could name all of the
Democratic Senators who were there, and none of them is currently
engaged in criticizing the President.
I remember a briefing at the White House in the Roosevelt Room with
representatives of the CIA and Condoleezza Rice, where we went through
the whole issue of weapons of mass destruction. Once again, I can
remember the Senators who were at that briefing. It was open to all. It
was not a private thing where a few Senators were requested. Any
Senator who wanted could have gone to that briefing. I remember those
who were there. Not one of the current critics of the President's
position was there at that briefing.
So I find it a little disingenuous to have them say they were misled
when they did not attend the briefings that were given.
Now let me take my colleagues to that briefing in the Roosevelt Room
in the White House and summarize for them what was said there. We were
told the following: Four areas of deep concern were raised, and we were
told in descending order of how scary these were. The first was
biological weapons. The second was Saddam Hussein's capacity to deliver
those weapons. The third was chemical weapons. The fourth was nuclear
weapons.
I remember that very clearly because I summarized it back to the
briefers and said: Let me be sure I understand what you are saying. You
are saying you are most frightened of his capacity in the biological
area, slightly less frightened about his ability to deliver those
weapons, slightly less frightened about his capacity in the chemical
area, and least frightened about his capacity in the nuclear area? And
they said, yes, Senator that is the descending order of concern.
I cite that because we are now being told in the popular press that
the entire operation was sold to us because of the threat of nuclear
weapons, ignoring the facts that we were given at the briefing to which
they did not come.
The question was raised, Why should we be going against Saddam
Hussein at this particular time? That was one of the questions at the
briefing. I remember the answer very clearly. If we are just talking
about weapons of mass destruction, there are a number of countries that
have weapons of mass destruction. Indeed, if we went to the country
that has the most outside of the United States itself, that would be
Russia. Simple possession of weapons of mass destruction, the point was
clearly made at the briefing, simple possession of weapons of mass
destruction does not justify taking action.
A brutal dictator who oppresses his own people. Look around the world
and there are plenty of brutal dictators who oppress their own people.
Being a brutal dictator who oppresses his own people is not
justification for the United States to go to war against you. That
point was clearly made at the briefing.
Willingness to invade your neighbors. There have been regimes around
the world that have attacked recently their neighbors. Clearly, the
United States cannot intervene every time there is a border war or a
willingness to attack your neighbors. That, alone, does not justify
going against someone in a military fashion.
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Using weapons of mass destruction is different from possessing them.
Now we are getting kind of narrow because we do not have a great number
of examples of regimes that have used weapons of mass destruction. But
maybe that alone, again, does not justify going against another regime.
Put them all together--possession of weapons of mass destruction,
using the weapons of mass destruction, crossing borders and invading
your neighbors, and being in the hands of a brutal dictator--now we are
getting a list and we are coming very close to Saddam Hussein, as the
only brutal dictator with weapons of mass destruction, who qualifies
for all four of those.
But there is a fifth that comes into play as a follow-on to September
11: That is financing and harboring terrorists. Let me make it clear at
that briefing, no one said there was a heavy al-Qaida presence in Iraq.
Once again, people in the media are attacking President Bush for saying
something that, in fact, he did not say. What was said at the briefing
was Iraq sponsors terrorism, Iraq funds terrorism, and there are
intelligence reports of Iraq harboring members of al-Qaida who are
fleeing for their lives.
The statement was never made that there was a major al-Qaida
headquarters in Iraq. The statement was simply made that terrorists run
through Iraq. A number of terrorist organizations, in addition to al-
Qaida, have been represented in Iraq. Iraq funds terrorism throughout
the region.
Here are five different criteria, any one of which might not be
enough to justify moving against a foreign government. Indeed, two or
even three gathered together might still not justify moving against a
foreign government. But the statement was made clearly, when you put
all five together and ask yourself where in the world do you find all
five at the same time, the answer is in one place and one place only:
That place is Iraq.
That was the intelligence briefing I attended. That was the
intelligence information I heard when I made up my mind to be in
support of the President and this operation. As I said before, I do not
remember--indeed, I am sure that most of the President's congressional
critics--indeed, all of--the President's congressional critics in this
Chamber--were not there. They did not hear the briefings.
For them to come forward now and say the President misled them, when
they did not go, is disingenuous. I do not feel misled. I do not feel
uninformed. I do not feel the intelligence was bad. Insufficient? Of
course. Intelligence is always insufficient. But that does not mean it
was deliberately manipulated; that does not mean it was planted; that
does not mean anyone did anything but the very best he or she could do
in good faith.
The fundamental question I posed earlier still stands. Even if you
accuse the President of doing all of what his critics are saying he
did, was it bad to have gone into Iraq and toppled Saddam Hussein?
Until critics either in the Congress or the media will come forward and
say, we used bad intelligence to make the bad decision and the world
would be better off if Saddam Hussein were still in power, they cannot,
in my view, sustain their criticism. They cannot fault this President
unless they are willing to say in this instance what we can say in the
two other instances I have described.
Intelligence was flawed in the Sudan. Would the world be better off
if we had not destroyed that plant? Yes. The intelligence was flawed in
Belgrade. Would we be better off if we had not destroyed the Chinese
Embassy? The answer is yes. If the intelligence was flawed in Iraq, the
same question still applies: Would we be better off if we had not
toppled Saddam Hussein? Until someone is willing to answer that
question yes, I am not willing to give credence to their complaints
about this President and this White House.
I suggest the absence of a quorum.
The PRESIDENT pro tempore. The clerk will call the roll.
The assistant legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
Mr. BYRD. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent the order for the
quorum call be rescinded.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
The Senator from West Virginia.
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