[Congressional Record Volume 149, Number 77 (Thursday, May 22, 2003)]
[House]
[Pages H4600-H4601]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]


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        NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2004

  The Committee resumed its sitting.
  The CHAIRMAN pro tempore (Mr. Hastings of Washington). It is now in 
order to consider amendment No. 9 printed in House Report 108-122.


           Amendment No. 9 Offered by Mr. Hastings of Florida

  Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment.
  The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will designate the amendment.
  The text of the amendment is as follows:

       Amendment No. 9 offered by Mr. Hastings of Florida:
       Page 260, strike lines 23 and 24.
       Page 262, strike lines 7 through 12.

  The CHAIRMAN pro tempore. Pursuant to House Resolution 247, the 
gentleman from Florida (Mr. Hastings) and a Member opposed each will 
control 5 minutes.
  The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Hastings).
  Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I 
may consume.
  I rise today to offer an amendment that preserves congressional 
oversight authority over Department of Defense actions. U.S. Code, 
Title 10, directs the Department of Defense to prepare a variety of 
reports annually, quarterly, and monthly. The Secretary has argued, and 
with some currency, that the task of preparing these reports is too 
time-consuming and manpower intensive. The Secretary now seeks to have 
the requirement to submit reports deleted.
  Mr. Chairman, I am all for efficiency in government, but let us be 
careful not to give away the House and the Senate. Mr. Chairman, 
included in the list of reports the Secretary of Defense seeks to 
delete from Title 10 are some that are critical for the House and 
Senate. We cannot abrogate our constitutional duty of checks and 
balances over the largest department of the Executive Branch simply 
because it takes time to prepare a report.
  My amendment retains three reporting requirements that I believe are 
extremely important to this body's oversight authority.
  The first directs the Secretary of Defense to inform the House 
Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and the Senate Intelligence 
Committee on any actions taken consistent with activities outlined in 
the National Security Act. I can assure the Members, as a member of the 
Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, this information is of the 
utmost importance to us.
  The second is an annual report from the Secretary of Defense to the 
House Committee on Armed Services and the Senate Armed Services 
Committee as well as the House Committee on International Relations and 
the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. This report lists all 
humanitarian assistance activities of the Department, including the 
cost of those activities.
  The third report retained by my amendment requires the heads of each 
DOD department or agency to provide an annual report to the House 
Committee on Armed Services and the Senate Armed Services Committee on 
the management of the civilian workforce under their jurisdiction.
  With the sweeping changes envisioned for the DOD civilian workforce, 
who can argue that these reports are no longer important?
  I appreciate the Secretary's concerns. As a matter of fact, several 
of us met with Secretary Rumsfeld as he returned to the Department of 
Defense, and one of the questions that was put to him was what changes 
did he see this second time around. Very candidly and forthrightly he 
said the thing that struck him most is the number of reports that are 
required to be brought out by the Department of Defense.
  I have included in this amendment timely and relevant reports to 
Congress and excluded from it original versions that would have 
required more.
  We are about to write a very large check for the Department of 
Defense and rightly so, but at the end of the day let us make sure we 
know what we are paying for. I would like to thank the gentleman from 
California (Chairman Hunter) for his interest in my amendment, and 
especially I am grateful to him and his staff and the ranking member, 
and I believe that we have reached an acceptable compromise.
  Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance my time.
  Mr. HUNTER. Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent for the time in 
opposition, although I am not opposed to the amendment.
  The CHAIRMAN pro tempore. Without objection, the gentleman from 
California (Mr. Hunter) is recognized for 5 minutes.
  There was no objection.
  Mr. HUNTER. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
  I want to thank the gentleman for bringing this amendment and thank 
him for working with the committee, and we have no objection to the 
amendment.
  Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentleman and the 
ranking member.
  Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
  The CHAIRMAN pro tempore. The question is on the amendment offered by 
the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Hastings).
  The amendment was agreed to.


                 Amendment No. 6 Offered by Mr. Dreier

  The CHAIRMAN pro tempore. Pursuant to clause 6 of rule XVIII, 
proceedings will now resume on amendment No. 6.
  The pending business is the demand for a recorded vote on the 
amendment offered by the gentleman from California (Mr. Dreier) on 
which further proceedings were postponed and on which the noes 
prevailed by voice vote.
  The Clerk will redesignate the amendment.
  The Clerk redesignated the amendment.


                             Recorded Vote

  The CHAIRMAN pro tempore. A recorded vote has been demanded.
  A recorded vote was ordered.
  The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 207, 
noes 217, not voting 10, as follows:

                             [Roll No. 219]

                               AYES--207

     Ackerman
     Allen
     Baca
     Baird
     Baldwin
     Ballance
     Becerra
     Bereuter
     Berkley
     Biggert
     Bishop (NY)
     Blumenauer
     Blunt
     Boehlert
     Boehner
     Bono
     Boswell
     Boucher
     Brady (TX)
     Brown (SC)
     Burr
     Camp
     Cannon
     Cantor
     Capps
     Capuano
     Cardin
     Cardoza
     Case
     Castle
     Chocola
     Clay
     Conyers
     Cooper
     Cox
     Crane
     Crowley
     Cubin
     Cummings
     Cunningham
     Davis (AL)
     Davis (CA)
     Davis (FL)
     Davis (IL)
     Davis, Tom
     DeGette
     Delahunt
     DeLauro
     DeLay
     Diaz-Balart, L.
     Dingell
     Doggett
     Dooley (CA)
     Dreier
     Dunn
     Ehlers
     Emanuel
     Engel
     Eshoo
     Etheridge
     Farr
     Flake
     Fletcher
     Foley
     Fossella
     Frank (MA)
     Frost
     Gallegly
     Gonzalez
     Goodlatte
     Goss
     Granger
     Greenwood
     Grijalva
     Gutierrez
     Gutknecht
     Harman
     Harris
     Hart
     Hastings (FL)
     Hastings (WA)
     Hensarling
     Herger
     Hill
     Hinojosa
     Hoekstra
     Holt
     Honda
     Hooley (OR)
     Houghton
     Hoyer
     Hulshof
     Inslee
     Israel
     Issa
     Jackson (IL)
     Jefferson
     John
     Johnson (CT)
     Johnson, E. B.
     Jones (OH)
     Kelly
     Kennedy (MN)
     Kennedy (RI)
     Kilpatrick
     Kind
     Kirk
     Knollenberg
     Kolbe
     Kucinich
     LaHood
     Lampson
     Larsen (WA)
     Latham
     LaTourette
     Leach
     Lee
     Lewis (GA)
     Linder
     Lofgren
     Lowey
     Lucas (KY)
     Majette
     Maloney
     Manzullo
     Markey
     Matheson
     Matsui
     McCarthy (NY)
     McCollum
     McCrery
     McDermott
     McGovern
     Meeks (NY)
     Menendez
     Mica
     Michaud
     Millender-McDonald
     Miller (NC)
     Moore
     Moran (VA)
     Myrick
     Nadler
     Napolitano
     Neal (MA)
     Northup
     Nunes
     Oberstar
     Olver
     Osborne
     Ose
     Otter
     Pallone
     Pastor
     Paul
     Pelosi
     Peterson (MN)
     Petri
     Pitts
     Portman
     Price (NC)
     Pryce (OH)
     Putnam
     Quinn
     Radanovich
     Rahall
     Ramstad
     Rangel
     Reynolds
     Roybal-Allard
     Rush
     Sanchez, Linda T.
     Sanchez, Loretta
     Schakowsky
     Schiff
     Scott (VA)
     Serrano
     Sessions
     Shays
     Shimkus
     Smith (TX)
     Smith (WA)
     Snyder
     Solis
     Sullivan
     Tauscher
     Thomas
     Thompson (CA)
     Thompson (MS)
     Thornberry
     Tierney
     Toomey
     Towns
     Udall (CO)
     Udall (NM)
     Upton
     Van Hollen
     Velazquez
     Walden (OR)
     Walsh
     Waters
     Watson
     Watt
     Weiner
     Weller
     Wexler
     Wilson (NM)

                               NOES--217

     Abercrombie
     Aderholt
     Akin
     Alexander
     Andrews
     Bachus
     Baker
     Ballenger
     Barrett (SC)
     Bartlett (MD)
     Barton (TX)
     Bass
     Beauprez
     Bell
     Berman
     Berry
     Bilirakis
     Bishop (GA)
     Bishop (UT)
     Blackburn
     Bonner
     Boozman
     Boyd
     Bradley (NH)
     Brady (PA)
     Brown (OH)
     Brown, Corrine

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     Burgess
     Burns
     Burton (IN)
     Buyer
     Calvert
     Capito
     Carson (IN)
     Carson (OK)
     Carter
     Chabot
     Clyburn
     Coble
     Cole
     Collins
     Costello
     Cramer
     Crenshaw
     Culberson
     Davis (TN)
     Davis, Jo Ann
     Deal (GA)
     DeFazio
     DeMint
     Deutsch
     Diaz-Balart, M.
     Dicks
     Doyle
     Duncan
     Edwards
     English
     Evans
     Everett
     Fattah
     Feeney
     Ferguson
     Filner
     Forbes
     Ford
     Franks (AZ)
     Frelinghuysen
     Garrett (NJ)
     Gerlach
     Gibbons
     Gilchrest
     Gillmor
     Gingrey
     Goode
     Graves
     Green (TX)
     Green (WI)
     Hall
     Hayes
     Hayworth
     Hefley
     Hinchey
     Hobson
     Hoeffel
     Holden
     Hostettler
     Hunter
     Hyde
     Isakson
     Istook
     Jackson-Lee (TX)
     Janklow
     Jenkins
     Johnson (IL)
     Johnson, Sam
     Jones (NC)
     Kanjorski
     Kaptur
     Keller
     Kildee
     King (IA)
     King (NY)
     Kingston
     Kleczka
     Kline
     Lantos
     Larson (CT)
     Levin
     Lewis (CA)
     Lewis (KY)
     Lipinski
     LoBiondo
     Lucas (OK)
     Lynch
     Marshall
     McCarthy (MO)
     McCotter
     McHugh
     McInnis
     McIntyre
     McKeon
     McNulty
     Meehan
     Meek (FL)
     Miller (FL)
     Miller (MI)
     Miller, Gary
     Miller, George
     Mollohan
     Moran (KS)
     Murphy
     Murtha
     Musgrave
     Nethercutt
     Ney
     Norwood
     Nussle
     Obey
     Ortiz
     Owens
     Pascrell
     Payne
     Pearce
     Pence
     Peterson (PA)
     Pickering
     Platts
     Pombo
     Pomeroy
     Porter
     Regula
     Rehberg
     Renzi
     Reyes
     Rodriguez
     Rogers (AL)
     Rogers (KY)
     Rogers (MI)
     Rohrabacher
     Ros-Lehtinen
     Ross
     Rothman
     Royce
     Ruppersberger
     Ryan (OH)
     Ryan (WI)
     Ryun (KS)
     Sabo
     Sanders
     Sandlin
     Saxton
     Schrock
     Scott (GA)
     Sensenbrenner
     Shadegg
     Shaw
     Sherman
     Sherwood
     Shuster
     Simmons
     Simpson
     Skelton
     Slaughter
     Smith (MI)
     Smith (NJ)
     Souder
     Spratt
     Stark
     Stearns
     Stenholm
     Strickland
     Stupak
     Sweeney
     Tancredo
     Tanner
     Tauzin
     Taylor (MS)
     Taylor (NC)
     Terry
     Tiahrt
     Tiberi
     Turner (OH)
     Turner (TX)
     Visclosky
     Vitter
     Wamp
     Waxman
     Weldon (FL)
     Weldon (PA)
     Wicker
     Wilson (SC)
     Wolf
     Woolsey
     Wu
     Wynn
     Young (AK)
     Young (FL)

                             NOT VOTING--10

     Bonilla
     Brown-Waite, Ginny
     Combest
     Doolittle
     Emerson
     Gephardt
     Gordon
     Langevin
     Oxley
     Whitfield


                Announcement by the Chairman Pro Tempore

  The CHAIRMAN pro tempore (Mr. Hastings of Washington) (during the 
vote). Members are advised that 2 minutes remain in this vote.

                              {time}  1848

  Messrs. NETHERCUTT, MORAN of Kansas, CARSON of Oklahoma, PENCE, Mr. 
RYUN of Kansas, MEEK of Florida, BURTON of Indiana, RUPPERSBERGER, Ms. 
BROWN of Florida, Messrs. WYNN, TIAHRT, LARSON of Connecticut, and 
WILSON of South Carolina, Ms. ROS-LEHTINEN, and Mr. SHADEGG changed 
their vote from ``aye'' to ``no.''
  Messrs. KIND, TOOMEY, THOMPSON of California, WATT, WALDEN of Oregon, 
PALLONE, LAMPSON, MARKEY, NADLER, RAHALL, CROWLEY and Ms. HARRIS 
changed their vote from ``no'' to ``aye.''
  So the amendment was rejected.
  The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
  Stated against:
  Mr. LANGEVIN. Mr. Chairman, on rollcall No. 219, my vote was not 
recorded, but had it been recorded I would have voted ``no.''

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