[Congressional Record Volume 149, Number 31 (Wednesday, February 26, 2003)]
[House]
[Pages H1377-H1383]
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UNFAIR DELAY IN CONFIRMING APPOINTMENT FOR MR. MIGUEL ESTRADA
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Porter). Under the Speaker's announced
policy of January 7, 2003, the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Mario Diaz-
Balart) is recognized for 60 minutes as the designee of the majority
leader.
Mr. MARIO DIAZ-BALART of Florida. Mr. Speaker, it is an honor to be
here in this wonderful Chamber to discuss what I think is a rather
puzzling situation that has taken over our government, our legislative
branch of the government, and in particular, the legislative branch on
the other side of the Rotunda.
We have seen that a number of people have tried to do anything and
everything to avoid, to stop a brilliant young attorney who has been
nominated by the President of the United States to be on the Appellate
Court for the District of Columbia.
I say he is a brilliant young attorney because everybody has had to
recognize his brilliance. Those that have worked with him have had to
recognize his brilliance. He has worked not only as a prosecutor from
the great State of New York; he has also worked in the office of the
Solicitor General with two administrations, a Republican administration
and also a Democrat administration.
All the people who have worked with him from both parties in both
administrations have publicly recognized the brilliance, the decency,
the integrity of this brilliant young attorney; a man who got here to
the United States at age 17, Mr. Speaker, barely speaking English, and
he got here and worked and studied, and was able to graduate with
honors just a few years later from that most prestigious university,
Columbia University; with honors, I repeat.
Then he went on to study law, but not just in any law school, in
Harvard Law School, probably, I guess, among the most prestigious law
schools in the entire country; I would rather say in the entire world.
He also graduated from that university, that law school, with honors.
While he was studying, he was also the editor of the law journal there,
the law review in that prestigious law school. He graduated with honors
and went on to become a prosecutor in the State of New York. That was
after he was prosecutor, I am sorry. He went on to work with the
Solicitor General's office under President George Bush, Senior; and
then he also worked for President Clinton's administration in the
Office of the Solicitor General; an incredible, impeccable record.
I am trying to see if I can get some of my colleagues here to maybe
try to explain to me what is going on here. Why is it that this
brilliant young man, this brilliant Hispanic lawyer, is being treated
differently than others who have had similar records, similar
experiences, who have gone on to become judges and have not received
the obstacles, have not been attacked the way Mr. Miguel Estrada is
being attacked today? And this attack has been going on now for a long,
long time.
I brought just a calendar to kind of let us know how long it has
been. It has been almost 2 years, 2 years since this young brilliant,
talented, effective man of integrity has been held hostage. As we see
here, not only has Miguel Estrada been held hostage, but diversity in
our court system has been held hostage.
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I just do not get it. I see here the gentleman from Florida (Mr.
Feeney).
I do not know if the gentleman has an explanation as to why it is
that the minority party in the other Chamber insists on not letting
this man even come up for a vote, to the point where they are using all
sorts of procedural matters to not permit this man to even have the
opportunity for his nomination to be voted up or down.
Announcement by the Speaker Pro Tempore
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Chair would request Members refrain from
improper references to the Senate.
Mr. FEENEY. Mr. Speaker, I thank my dear friend from South Florida
and, indeed, a colleague in the Florida legislature, a mentor, advisor,
and a dear friend of mine for many years. And I want to congratulate
the gentleman for his leadership, because as long as I have known the
gentleman from South Florida (Mr. Mario Diaz-Balart) when he sees
wrongdoing going on, he speaks out and he does so with a passion and a
fervor.
The gentleman understands the difference between freedom and
oppression because of his background on the Communist state of Cuba and
the freedom he enjoys and fights for every day and hour of his waking
life here in America. And I want to thank the gentleman for being such
a great friend not just of mine but, more importantly, to freedom.
The gentleman has asked me to explain the inexplicable: why a man
like this would be held hostage; why diversity would be held hostage by
his critics; he has asked me to explain why somebody with incredible
merits, impeccable academic background, incredible moral background, a
hard-working gentleman who came to America as a 17-year-old and has led
and proven the American dream.
The gentleman has asked me to explain why enormous integrity is
actually held against an applicant for the United States Federal bench,
and I cannot explain the inexplicable even though I am a politician,
while there will be some politicians that will try. Being punished for
having all the enormous merit that Miguel Estrada has is something that
I find very personally offensive. I think it is offensive to the
American way. I think it is offensive to the entire notion of an
independent judiciary.
And I will state for those of the American public that are watching
tonight, maybe they do not understand all the details of what it takes
to succeed and get to the Federal bench. I want to boil it down.
I am a former practicing attorney in business in the real estate
field. I want to boil it down so I think that normal people, people
that really are not politicians or lawyers, can understand. There are
really two basic qualifications, I think every American would agree
with this, in order to get appointed to and succeed on the Federal
bench:
Number one, you need to be fit. You need to be fit morally. You need
to be fit intelligently. You need to be fit academically.
Number two, you need to adhere to the United States Constitution and
to the rules of law.
I would suggest to my great friend that the sin that Miguel Estrada
is being accused of is that he is enormously well fit and he is
enormously dedicated to adherence to the Constitution and the rule of
law. And that bothers some people because they want to pull it aside.
They want to twist the Constitution. They want to rewrite the
Constitution.
I will tell you that one of the things that the gentleman is being
held up for is because when he was asked specifically how he would rule
on specific cases that might come before him as a United States Supreme
Court Justice, he said that he would have to decline to say
specifically, because the entire notion of an independent bench is not
to make promises.
It is not like the political world that we live here in the Congress.
It is not like the executive branch. In the executive branch and the
legislative branches we share our biases with the voting public. We say
we are for this and we are against that. People get to vote in a
representative democracy in
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favor of one candidate against another because of their political
biases. But on the bench you are supposed to put your political biases
away and you are supposed to adhere to the Constitution and adhere to
the rule of law. That is what offended political activists who want to
take over the judiciary and use it in a way to take over the
representative government. In my view, that is the fundamental reason
why Miguel Estrada has been torpedoed.
But he has another sin. The fact that he is, as the gentleman
understands, a great colleague of mine, he represents a great district
in south Florida, both east and west coast. The notion that this is a
gentleman with an ethnic background that is not white, Caucasian like
me, but that comes from a wonderful part of our American society, but
he does not adhere to the liberal big-government notion of rewriting
the Constitution in some people's minds disqualifies him from serving
on a bench that they want to turn into a political operation.
And by the way, the wonderful thing about the arguments that we are
able to make, and our colleagues on behalf of the Miguel Estrada
nomination, is that no individual critic of his has come forward with a
specific sin. They admit that he was one of the brightest students,
actually the brightest student, magna cum laude, editor of the Law
Review at Harvard Law School, as the gentleman pointed out. He has the
intellectual IQ. They have admitted that he has incredible
integrity. There is no question about the gentleman's integrity. He has
fantastic integrity.
They have admitted that he has got a great background, that he has
worked hard, that he has lived the American dream. Their problem is
that they cannot point to one flaw in this man's character, his
capability, his academic career, his working career. And so as a sort
of camouflage for why they are really opposed to Miguel Estrada's
nomination to the Federal bench they say this; and, by the way, as the
gentleman knows, he would be the first Hispanic American ever on this
appeals court that he has been nominated to. They say little things
like he has not disclosed secret advice in a legal memorandum to his
client.
Now, I can state that while I was a business and real estate lawyer,
that if we are going to force every applicant to the Federal bench to
disclose secret memorandums and advice to their clients, a couple
things will happen: Number one, nobody who has ever written candid
advice to their clients in the public or private sector will ever apply
to the bench. We will disqualify all the best lawyers in the country,
because the truth of the matter is that the obligation of an attorney
is to zealously advocate for their client and give them candid, secret,
private advice. The attorney/client privilege is critical because if
you do not have it, your lawyer will not tell you the truth about what
you need to do to protect yourself.
There is a second application here in terms of undermining the
attorney/client privilege, and that is that people in government will
not get the best advice that is available. If lawyers who work for the
government know that everything they say to their clients one day will
remain public, then the President, individual Members of Congress, and
others will know every day that their lawyers are not going to tell the
truth to them. What their lawyers are going to prepare is documents
prepared later for a publishment so that the whole world will see
exactly what their advice to their clients was. This will undermine the
entire legal system in my view, and, in all candor, anybody who has
ever been subject to a traffic ticket, some sort of criminal problem;
who has had a civil litigation matter, if they can imagine; a divorce,
for example, as my colleague may know some people, we dealt with some
divorce law in Florida.
Imagine going through a divorce and as a spouse fighting over a
child's custody, fighting over issues of whether or not you will be
able to get enough alimony to support your children. Imagine if
everything your lawyer tells you or writes to you is going to be
published in the New York Times and the rest of the journals throughout
the world tomorrow, imagine how candid and honest and decent your
lawyer is going to be with you. He is not.
Mr. MARIO DIAZ-BALART. Mr. Speaker, may I ask a question on that
note? If I may, there is a letter that has been, that we have all seen,
that is signed by every living former Solicitor General, some of them
are Republicans, some of them are Democrats, stating exactly what the
gentleman has just said; how that would be devastating for the country
in that office's ability to represent the U.S. before the United States
Supreme Court.
So, again, the gentleman is stating some pretty obvious, I think,
commonsense reasons as to why that should not be released.
Number two is that every Solicitor General, former Solicitor General
of both parties, so this is bipartisan, this is a bipartisan statement,
in writing have said exactly what the gentleman has just said: that
that information cannot be released.
But I have to admit to the honorable gentleman from Florida that the
part that has me more preoccupied, more worried, is that if that is the
standards that some people want to use as to why certain nominees for
judge should be disqualified, then it may be wrong. It clearly is
because every living Solicitor General of both parties has stated it in
writing. If that is the standard, there is an argument. What really
worries me is the double standard that is being applied to Mr. Estrada.
There have been seven judges that have come out of the Office of
Solicitor General. Seven judges. And not once have those documents been
requested of those individuals. Not once was that deemed to be
necessary. Not once was that deemed to be essential. And clearly never
was that used as a something to block the nomination of seven other
people who have come from the same office. So why the double standard?
Why the double standard on this brilliant Hispanic lawyer who, as the
gentleman stated so eloquently, there is nothing in his record other
than talents, discipline, hard work, decency, integrity. Why the double
standard when there are seven other people who have passed this process
and those documents were never asked of them, and now that is being
used as an excuse for this one individual. That is what really worries
me.
And I do not know if the honorable distinguished gentleman from
Florida (Mr. Feeney) has any comments on that, because I really am
worried about that.
Mr. FEENEY. Well, I have some sure thought, and then I know the
gentleman has some other Members here that are really passionate about
how offensive it is about what is happening to Miguel Estrada. But I
will tell you this: There is a double standard. Miguel Estrada would be
the first Hispanic ever on this bench. He is a Solicitor General not in
just the Republican administration, but he worked for President
Clinton's administration. He got high marks everywhere he worked.
The problem is this. The critics of Miguel Estrada do not want a
vote. They do not want a debate over his talents, his capabilities, his
integrity, his morals, his academic achievements; and they especially
do not want to discuss the fact that this wonderful gentleman came here
as a 17-year-old, lived the American dream, and now is an outstanding
American statesman. They cannot vote against a man if they have to live
with a description of his incredible achievements.
So what the critics are using is all sorts of excuses. And as the
gentleman points out, they have never ever once demanded that any of
the nominees in the past live up to the technical requirements that
they are trying to place on him. The double standard the gentleman
speaks about, in my view, is because Mr. Estrada is a lesson to
Americans that you do not have to think, just because you are a
Hispanic American, in a one-little-box mentality. You do not have to be
a liberal activist. You do not have to promise to undermine and rewrite
the original intents of the United States Constitution. And the lesson
that the liberal critics want to teach not just Mr. Estrada, but
everybody else, that they are going to crush you if you believe that
the Founding Fathers wrote what they meant, meant what they said. And
we are especially going to crush you if you come from some minority
background or if you are a woman, for example, because they never,
never want to have a day in America where people, regardless of their
ethnic background or their gender or their race or their
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religion, can actually think outside a small liberal box.
And I want to tell the gentleman once again that for as long as I
have known him, he has been a freedom fighter. When he sees wrong going
on, he leads the fight to basically stand up for decency, for values,
for the American way. I am a huge fan of the gentleman from south
Florida and I believe, as I know he does, that if we just let the
American people know that there is a crime being committed in public
against Miguel Estrada, that two things will happen: Number one, he
eventually, despite, despite this ugly episode led by his opponents
attacking him in a surreptitious way because they cannot do it
directly, he has no flaws in his background; despite that, he will end
up on the Federal bench.
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Secondly, the wonderful news is that free thinkers throughout
America, regardless of whether they are women or what their religion is
or what their ethnic background is, will be sent the message they do
not have to pander to the liberal left wing special interest groups;
they can be true to the United States Constitution; they can still make
it as a Federal judge. That is a great message.
Mr. MARIO DIAZ-BALART of Florida. I thank the gentleman from Florida
for that very clear explanation, crystal clear explanation as to what
some of the problems that we are seeing with this move to use all sorts
of procedural maneuvers to try to block, torpedo the nomination of Mr.
Miguel Estrada; and again, it is hard to believe that this is actually
happening in this day and age.
We have talked about, as the honorable gentleman from Florida talked
about, the double standard; and it is not just one double standard that
is being applied to Mr. Estrada. It is multiple double standards; and
it is multiple double standards, and some of the people that are
actually speaking these words and opposing Mr. Estrada's nomination are
on record in the past saying just the opposite. Why? Why all of the
sudden, when it is this person, again, the first Hispanic American ever
to be nominated to this most prestigious court, why is it that now
there is this double standard?
There are people who have said, for example, that the gold seal to
determine if one is so qualified or not is the ABA's rating; and yet
Mr. Estrada has been rated as the highest-qualified person that that
organization rates anybody. And yet all of the sudden, for Miguel
Estrada, that is not good enough, and it seems to me a very sad day
when people who just a few months ago said something totally different
are now backtracking on their own words, reversing what they said. Were
they not saying what they meant then, or are they not saying what they
mean now? Were they deceiving the people then or are they deceiving the
people now? It is a very, very sad state of affairs.
I am honored to have the gentleman from the State of Colorado here
join us today; and I would, Mr. Speaker, like to yield some of my time
to the honorable gentleman from Colorado.
Mr. BEAUPREZ. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from Florida; and
Mr. Speaker, I would like to address this subject very directly.
The gentleman from Florida just mentioned moments ago the rating from
the American Bar Association, the American Bar Association, as well
qualified for Miguel Estrada to serve on the Federal bench. That
rating, I might remind the Speaker, and I doubt that I need to remind
the gentleman from Florida, they not only granted that rating of well
qualified, the highest rating, they unanimously granted a well-
qualified rating for Miguel Estrada to serve on the Federal bench.
I would like to tell a very personal story that I just last week
experienced about Miguel Estrada. Many of us were back in our districts
last week. Many of us had neighborhood meetings, town meetings,
meetings with constituents. I did the same; and at every meeting I went
to, every meeting, certainly questions came up about the possibility of
war in the Middle East and people are concerned about that and about
the economy. Amazing to me, amazing to me was that people, average
people, normal folks that are concerned about their everyday living
know who Miguel Estrada is; and they understand clearly that an
injustice is being done, Mr. Speaker. An injustice is being done to
this fine American.
How fine of an American is he? The gentleman from Florida explained
very well. He comes here as an immigrant, barely speaks the language.
He not only graduates from the university, he graduates with honors,
magna cum laude from Columbia College in New York, from Harvard Law
School, edits the Harvard Law Review, not exactly your average
fraternity newsletter. He is not only well qualified. He is eminently
qualified.
He served on the U.S. court of appeals as a law clerk. He served as a
clerk in the Supreme Court for Justice Kennedy. He served as the
Assistant U.S. Attorney and deputy chief of the appellate section of
the U.S. Attorney's office of the Southern District of New York where
he argued appeals cases before the second circuit court. He served as
the Assistant Solicitor General of the United States, as the gentleman
from Florida already pointed out, for two Presidents' administrations,
President Clinton and President Bush 41. Still he has opponents. Why?
In my town meetings, again, my constituents, average Americans, they
had it figured out. I asked them what do they think this is about. They
said it is about politics. It is about politics. I understand that if
they are talking about me. I expect the gentleman from Florida (Mr.
Mario Diaz-Balart) understands that if they were talking about him. We
are, after all, politicians.
Mr. Estrada aspires to be a judge, a judge; and in the very
definition of judge, the word ``judgment,'' that is what we expect him
to do is exercise good, balanced, educated, unbiased judgment over the
laws that our colleagues will pass in this Chamber, that have been
passed in this Chamber by politicians, legislators before us.
The folks back home understand that Mr. Estrada, who wants to be a
judge, is being subjected to the judgment that is typically reserved
for politicians. That is the injustice. That is the injustice that is
being perpetrated on a good American, an American that has achieved the
American dream; that has passed all standards; that has been nominated
by a President; that deserves a fair hearing and is not getting one.
Mr. Estrada, some of his opponents say he has never been a judge. How
can one who has never been a judge be a judge? Well, to the average
observer, perhaps that makes sense. Should he not be a judge first?
Amazingly enough, I find that five of eight judges currently serving on
this current D.C. circuit court, five of the eight had no previous
experience as judges before they were nominated and confirmed,
including two of President Clinton's appointees.
Mr. MARIO DIAZ-BALART of Florida. Mr. Speaker, let me, if I may
interrupt the gentleman from Colorado. Let me see if I understand what
the gentleman just said because that is a key point there.
Some of them who are objecting to him are saying that because he has
not been a judge before, that alone disqualifies him? Just that fact
alone disqualifies Mr. Miguel Estrada?
Mr. BEAUPREZ. Correct.
Mr. MARIO DIAZ-BALART of Florida. Mr. Speaker, but what the gentleman
has just expressed right now, and I want to make sure this is clear
because this almost sounds funny, the gentleman is saying that in the
same court where Mr. Miguel Estrada has been nominated to sit, right
now there are five judges that, before they were there, they had never
been judges before, and is the gentleman telling me that there was no
objection on that basis to those judges?
Mr. BEAUPREZ. They were nominated, they were confirmed, they serve on
the court. It gets better.
Mr. MARIO DIAZ-BALART of Florida. Please proceed.
Mr. BEAUPREZ. Mr. Speaker, it gets better. On the Supreme Court of
the United States, two recent Supreme Court Justices, names that are
certainly familiar to me, I expect familiar to most Americans, Byron
White, Wizard White from my State, Colorado. Byron White was nominated
by President Kennedy, confirmed by the Senate, served with distinction
on the Supreme Court, never was a judge prior to being nominated to the
highest court
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in the land, not just a Federal judgeship, the highest court in the
land, the Supreme Court.
William Rehnquist, currently the Chief Justice, of course, no prior
judicial experience before being appointed to the Supreme Court.
Mr. MARIO DIAZ-BALART of Florida. I thank the gentleman from Colorado
for his comments.
Those are disturbing facts. Those are very disturbing facts because
if the litmus test, as some are saying for Mr. Estrada, is that he has
never been a judge, how is it possible that there are others on that
same court, today, right now, as we speak, and of course, as you just
mentioned, sir, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the United
States right now, they had never been judges, and yet those same
individuals that are now saying that that is the reason why Mr. Estrada
cannot be a judge, those same individuals did not object to these other
fine public servants on the court?
Mr. BEAUPREZ. Mr. Speaker, if the gentleman would yield.
Mr. MARIO DIAZ-BALART of Florida. Please. I am having a very
difficult time understanding this.
Mr. BEAUPREZ. Mr. Speaker, I shared some of this same information
again with my constituents back home. They said, are his opponents
grasping for straws? I said, well, one might conclude. Allow me, allow
me to pursue the possibility, I think a reasonable possibility, that
this is really about politics.
What we are looking for is a judge, someone who can exercise
judgment; again, one who is fair and balanced; one who can be praised
and acknowledged and accepted by both people of a more liberal as well
as a more conservative political bias, people who are still going to
accept one who carries the title of judge, the distinguished title of
judge, carries that title, carries it well and that people of all
different perspectives are going to recognize their skill, their
talent, their fairness, such as Ron Clay, former Vice President Gore's
chief of staff.
A Democrat, Vice President's former chief of staff, said this about
the same Miguel Estrada: ``Miguel is a person of outstanding character,
tremendous intellect and with a deep commitment to the faithful
application of precedent.'' That is what judges do. ``Miguel will rule
justly toward all without showing favor to any group or individual.''
I cannot think of a stronger mission statement, a stronger
definition, a stronger statement about the credentials that I would
hope all judges could pass before being appointed, nominated, confirmed
to a judgeship as important as the U.S. Court of Appeals for the
District of Columbia; and I certainly hope, it is my belief, it is my
prayer, that a true American hero, these are the kind of stories, these
are the kind of individuals we in this body ought to be about raising
up as a standard of excellence, something for our young people, for all
Americans, for all citizens of the world to look at and say that is
what is America. That is the best of America. That is what America is
for. And yet this poor man is being persecuted, not praised and not
elevated.
I thank the gentleman from Florida for the time, and I thank him for
what he is doing to advance the cause of this fine American.
Mr. MARIO DIAZ-BALART of Florida. Mr. Speaker, I want to thank the
gentleman from Colorado for really shedding some light, and I had a
friend who used to say do not let the facts confuse the issue, and
there are some people that do not want to let the facts confuse the
issue.
The honorable gentleman from Colorado just brought some impressive
facts. He talked about Miguel Estrada's qualifications. Yes, he would
be the first Hispanic to sit on this court; but let me tell my
colleagues, I am of Hispanic descent, and I am very proud of that, but
I am not supporting Miguel Estrada merely because he is Hispanic. I am
supporting him because of his talents, because of his integrity,
because of his record, because of his life of achievements; and we
heard from the gentleman from Colorado what some of those achievements
are: graduated Phi Beta Kappa from Columbia College, magna cum laude
from Harvard Law School, unanimously stated to be well qualified, the
highest rating from the American Bar Association, and then, yes, he
worked at the Department of Justice for both Republican and Democrat
Presidents and has been called ``an extraordinary legal talent and
generally compassionate,'' by President Clinton's Solicitor General.
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What, then, is the real reason? What is the true reason that the body
across the hall is using procedural measures to stop a vote? They do
not even want him to have a vote. They do not want this gentleman to
have the possibility to receive a vote, a public vote in front of the
entire country, to let people decide in an open fashion whether they
should vote up or down. Why is it then, if he is so qualified, why is
it then, if the reasons du jour, the excuses du jour, are proven to be
false, like the ones we just heard before, that the reason he cannot be
a judge is because he has never been a judge before, yet there are five
members of that same court that had never been a judge? That was never
a problem for them. Why is it only a problem for this man?
They say, well, some documents have not been released. But there are
seven individuals that have also come out of that same office who have
become judges, and those documents were never asked of them. And in a
bipartisan fashion, all living ex-Solicitors General have said, both
Republicans and Democrats, that those papers cannot be released, and
they have never been requested. Why is it then, that only for this man,
for this individual, these things are requested? And why is it then,
that they are going to the most extraordinary means to use procedural
measures to not even permit a vote, to not even permit a vote on one
who would be the first Hispanic, the first Hispanic in the history of
this noble country to reach that position?
I am honored tonight to also have the distinguished gentlewoman from
the State of Michigan, and who comes here with an extensive public
record from her State, who I will yield to at this time, Mr. Speaker.
Mrs. MILLER of Michigan. Mr. Speaker, I certainly thank and
appreciate the gentleman from south Florida for yielding to me.
Mr. Speaker, I am a new Member of Congress, as I know my colleague is
as well, and when I thought about what I wanted to do with the rest of
my career, I thought about the idea of running for Congress; because I
have watched, as I think so many Americans have watched, the political
partisanship and the gridlock that has happened in our Nation's
Capital. I am sure it has always been there, but it seems to have
gotten worse over time. And what is happening to Miguel Estrada is a
very vivid demonstration of political gridlock and it must be stopped.
It has to be spoken out against, and I am here tonight to try to do so;
at least to lend my voice to that as well.
How can we stop the political posturing, how can we break the
gridlock? I think one of the charts that my good colleague from south
Florida held up here tonight, he titled it ``Diversity Held Hostage,''
has a very vivid demonstration of how long this nomination has been
held up. The chart, with just a simple calendar, has the X's as the
days and the days go by. The months are going by. Years now are going
by on the Miguel Estrada nomination. In fact, President Bush nominated
Miguel Estrada to the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals in May of 2001.
2001. In May of 2001. Nearly 2 years later, Miguel Estrada has yet to
be confirmed. I would say that this, by any reasonable standard, is
quite outrageous. I believe that to be quite outrageous.
Miguel Estrada, as has been mentioned here tonight by many of my
other colleagues, quite frankly is the American dream. We are a Nation
of immigrants. I am first generation here, from Scotland. We are all
immigrants. We are a Nation of immigrants. We are a Nation that
reflects how to build the American dream, and he certainly represents
the mainstream American values as well as mainstream American law. If
we think about it, from his roots in Honduras, certainly his struggle
as an immigrant who came here speaking very little English, Mr. Estrada
has literally risen to the very top of the legal profession, of his
chosen field, and now he is on the brink of making history in our
Nation. If confirmed, Mr. Estrada would be the very
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first Hispanic ever, ever to serve on the D.C. Circuit. Many consider
this actually to be the second most important Federal court in America.
Unfortunately, regrettably, his appointment has been held up, as we
say, by the very smallest of causes. And that, I truly believe,
sincerely believe, is simply political posturing.
Mr. Estrada should be confirmed because he is highly qualified to
serve on the Federal bench, period. He has every possible qualification
that would meet any reasonable standard. And let me just reiterate some
many have been spoken about previously, but I think it bears speaking
again. This is an individual who actually earned his law degree magna
cum laud from Harvard Law School, and he did so at the same time he was
serving as the editor of the Harvard Law Review. Five years after his
graduation, he was clerking for the United States Supreme Court. He
served as a clerk for the U.S. Supreme Court. He served as an assistant
United States Solicitor General under both President Clinton as well as
President George Bush. He has had experience in the Manhattan United
States Attorney's office. He has practiced constitutional law
extensively. He actually argued, and I find this fact really quite
fascinating, he actually argued 15 cases before the Supreme Court
before the age of 40. That is really quite remarkable. The American Bar
Association has unanimously, unanimously being the operative phrase
here, rated Mr. Estrada as well qualified, which is the very highest
rating that anyone can possibly achieve. Some Senators actually refer
to this as the gold standard. He has very strong bipartisan support.
And, again, when we speak about how we break political gridlock,
political posturing, he has very high bipartisan support.
Mr. Estrada, as I say, would be the first Hispanic judge on the U.S.
Court of Appeals for the D.C. Court. So, of course, I am here speaking
out in support of him. I do support the President's choice. But,
fortunately, it is not just me or the President or the vast majority of
Americans who support Mr. Estrada. In fact, there are a number of
organizations who have spoken out very publicly in support of Mr.
Estrada. And let me just read a couple of quotes, because I think they
speak volumes to the background of this individual and why this
nomination must proceed and proceed successfully.
These, again, are bipartisan, some of them through the media. This is
what the President of the Latino Coalition said about Mr. Estrada. ``To
deny Latinos, the Nation's largest minority, the opportunity to have
one of our own serve on this court in our Nation's Capital is
unforgivable'' .
The chief of staff of former Vice President Al Gore had this to say
about Mr. Estrada. ``Miguel is a person of outstanding character,
tremendous intellect, and with a deep commitment to the faithful
application of precedent. Miguel will rule justly toward all, without
showing favor to any group or any individual.''
And this from Seth Waxman, who was a former Solicitor General to
President Clinton. ``I have respect both for Mr. Estrada's intellect
and for his integrity. In no way did I ever discern that the
recommendations Mr. Estrada made or the views that he propounded were
colored in any way by his personal views, or indeed that they reflected
anything other than the long-term interests of the United States.''
And one other quote as well. The president of the Hispanic National
Bar Association said, ``Mr. Estrada's confirmation will break new
ground for Hispanics in the Judiciary.''
Clearly, the support for Mr. Estrada lies on both sides of the aisle.
He is a role model, and not only for Latinos; all Americans can look to
this individual certainly as a role model. I believe holding up this
confirmation process is completely unnecessary. I think we need to
allow Mr. Estrada to make history. He is well deserving of it. I am not
an attorney, never served as a judge, but I am married to a judge, and
I am well familiar with the exhaustive background check that goes on
before someone is selected to serve on the bench, whatever that bench
is. And I also know what is fair. And what is happening here to Mr.
Estrada is unfair. In fact, I believe it to be un-American, and I
wanted to come here tonight to speak out about this.
As many of my colleagues did, I spent last week, while we were in
recess, going around my district and holding town hall meetings,
talking to people, and I was amazed on this particular issue how well
versed people are. It has really, I believe, caught the attention of
the average American because they see the unfairness of this. They see
the persecution of this individual, and for no good reason. For
absolutely no good reason.
Mr. MARIO DIAZ-BALART of Florida. If I may reclaim my time, Mr.
Speaker, for just a moment. Let me ask the gentlewoman from the State
of Michigan a question. Because one of the things I get back home a
lot, and like my colleague mentioned, I am new to this process here in
Washington, D.C., but one of the things I get a lot and I have heard
for years is, well, people are just fed up with the double talk. They
say, all that double talk up there in Washington. And certainly some
people say one thing one day and something else a different day, and so
they are fed up. That is one of the things that we all, I guess, and I
am going to ask the gentlewoman if she has heard a lot of that in her
years of public service also, during her campaign, and now that she is
having public hearings.
I have seen some really interesting examples of that, which I have to
admit have shocked me. Even having heard that all these years, upon
arriving here I have seen some examples that have frankly shocked me.
They have been so blatant, frankly, it is to the point of being
shocking. When, as the gentlewoman mentions, certain people say the
standard, the ABA rating, is the gold standard, and then all of a
sudden, oops, just kidding, never mind, not for Mr. Estrada. For
everybody else, yes, but not for Mr. Estrada.
Then we have certain people, distinguished people, very well-
respected people, people we see in the news all the time, and people
that we see interviewed all the time who have stated that, for example,
that they would fight tooth and nail against filibustering of any
judicial nominee, any judicial nominee. And I have read this from the
Senate record, that they have said I am opposed to any filibustering of
any judicial nominee, whether I like the person or not, because they
have the right to have a vote. And then, all of a sudden, that same
individual is one of those leading the fight to do what, to filibuster
Mr. Estrada's nomination. Not vote against him, but filibustering. Just
a while ago he said that he would go to the extreme to stop a
filibuster for any nomination, for any judicial nomination.
announcement by the speaker pro tempore
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Murphy). The Chair would caution the
gentleman to refrain from any improper references to the Senate or to
individual Senators.
Mr. DIAZ-BALART. Mr. Speaker, I apologize. I do not think I mentioned
it was a Senator, but I guess it is pretty well known.
But that double talk is really shocking to me. And we have heard it
now, frankly, more than I really expected. I do not know if that is
something that the gentlewoman has gotten back home as well, as to how
extreme the double talk and double standards have been in the case of
Mr. Miguel Estrada.
Mrs. MILLER of Michigan. Well, if I might comment on that, the
gentleman used the term double, double standard, a double standard. It
actually is no longer a double standard. It is not as though there is
one standard here and there is another standard here. I think what is
happening in this particular case is that they are raising the
standard. They are raising the bar so that it could never be achieved
by Mr. Estrada. They are going to raise the bar to make sure that there
is under no set of circumstances that he will ever be able to rise up
to the level that they are setting for this individual.
This is a question of basic fairness. And the American public, if
they understand anything, they know what is fair. And they know what is
happening to this individual, to this good man, with his background, is
unfair.
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This whole concept of filibustering, we are here in Washington, again
we are new Members, we are trying to understand what all this
filibustering means and what is the relevance of it and those kinds of
things. What the
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American people are saying at home is, give the man a vote. Vote up or
vote no on his nomination. Vote yes or vote nay. But they are saying,
give the man a vote. That is not happening. That is the kind of comment
that I heard back in my town hall meetings.
announcement by the speaker pro tempore
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Murphy). The Chair would ask the
gentlewoman to be careful about characterizing Senate action or urging
Senate action.
Mrs. MILLER of Michigan. I appreciate that. I will try to exercise
the proper decorum here. I am getting a little carried away with it.
Let me just close with one final comment. In one of my town hall
meetings, I have five counties in my district, and in one of my
counties there are seven county commissioners. One of the
commissioners, I will not name his name, but he is a Hispanic
gentleman, very well known, well respected in the community, has had an
outstanding military background, well thought of by everyone. He and I
spoke about this for quite a long time. He is of the opposite party of
myself. But he did express his consternation. Again it came to an issue
of basic fairness. Basically that is what he expressed to me. He said,
if you have anything to say about this nomination at all, let the vote
happen. Just let it happen. Let them vote yes or let them vote no. But
it is a question of basic fairness.
Announcement by the Speaker Pro Tempore
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Chair again reminds the gentlewoman.
Mr. MARIO DIAZ-BALART of Florida. That is a very interesting point,
because there is bipartisan support for Mr. Estrada. In the Senate we
keep hearing that he has more than enough votes, that if in fact these
procedural steps are just not done and they allow an up or down vote,
that the votes are there. But they just do not even want to allow for a
vote. I want to get back to the gentlewoman from Michigan; but before I
do so, we are also joined by the gentleman from Oklahoma. We just heard
the passion from our dear friend from Michigan. She is passionate about
it because of the injustice of what is happening to this fine
individual. Again, he would be the first Hispanic in the history of
this country, the first Hispanic American in the history of this
country to reach that position, to be on such a prestigious court. His
record is impeccable. Democrats and Republicans have stated that his
record is impeccable. Those that worked for him have stated just about
the quality and the talent and the integrity, the immense integrity of
this human being. There has been nothing that they have been able to
find negative in his record. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Yet the bar,
or the goal posts are continuously being moved by those that would
oppose him.
Announcement by the Speaker Pro Tempore
The SPEAKER pro tempore. I am trying to give the gentleman some
latitude, but to review this. Please refrain from remarks that
characterize the Senate or call for action.
Mr. MARIO DIAZ-BALART of Florida. Mr. Speaker, I will try to do so. I
thank the Speaker for letting me know about that.
It is hard to believe why this is happening. It is hard to believe
why this gentleman is being treated differently than others who have
come before him. It is hard to understand why others who are equally
qualified or less qualified have not had the problems in the process
that Mr. Estrada has had. He has answered more questions than just
about anybody. Because I have heard that one of the reasons is that,
well, he has not answered enough questions. But he has answered over
125 questions from the esteemed Members of the other body. Other judges
have answered many less.
One judge recently, of President Clinton's two nominees to the court,
one answered three questions; the other answered, I believe, 20. Mr.
Estrada answered 125 questions. Yet some will say, that is not enough.
It was enough for others, but not for Mr. Estrada. I would like to know
if the honorable Member from Oklahoma is as dismayed to see what is
happening as are many of us who are watching this going on and are
wondering what is the real reason, what is really behind this. It is
not the reasons that they are stating, so what are the real reasons?
I yield, Mr. Speaker, to the gentleman from Oklahoma.
Mr. COLE. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding. It is a
great pleasure to be with my good friend, the distinguished Member from
Florida. I did not come here with prepared remarks and certainly I do
not pretend to be able to match the eloquence of my good friend, the
gentlewoman from Michigan, or the gentleman from Colorado; but I came
because I was compelled, listening to the debate and having watched the
debate over many days, to express my solidarity and my sentiments about
the great injustice that I feel is being done here.
This is the ultimate expression of politics over principle. And what
kind of principles are at stake? The principle first of merit. There is
no question about Miguel Estrada's merit. He is a jurist of outstanding
quality and a lawyer of distinguished accomplishment, someone who
Members of both parties have recognized for his individual brilliance.
This is a triumph over the principle of diversity. It is a good thing
in a diverse country to have a diverse bench, to have people of
different backgrounds, with a common faith and belief in this country
but representing different cultural and different racial and different
ethnic traditions to occupy important positions.
It is the triumph of politics over the principle ultimately of fair
play, the most fundamental American principle of all, the right to have
a vote, the right to be heard, the right for a decision to be made. It
is unfortunate. And it is the triumph of politics over the principle of
bipartisanship, as my good friend from Florida has pointed out. There
are Democrats and Republicans of good will, of differing philosophies,
of differing points of view but united in their belief that Miguel
Estrada is a person of outstanding integrity, of great ability and as
deserving of the position to which the President has nominated him.
I reflect back, Mr. Speaker, on what might have happened had similar
things occurred when Colin Powell was nominated for his position as a
member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, an action which takes approval, of
what might have happened when our distinguished national security
adviser was chosen for her respective position. Questions were not
raised then about them, what their political philosophy might be,
because they were people of outstanding character and outstanding
ability. Their appointment to the posts which they both currently hold
is an indication of respect on both sides of the aisle for their
ability.
I think in this case again we are seeing an individual punished not
on the basis of merit, not on the basis even of philosophy directly but
on the off chance that he might be a conservative. Certainly he is not
being punished simply because he is a Hispanic. I would hope not, and I
would certainly expect not. I would not attribute that motive to any of
those who oppose him. But there is a sort of subtle double standard
here in terms of you have to be the right kind of Hispanic. You have to
believe in the right set of principles in order to occupy a position of
trust and responsibility in the United States. That is simply
inappropriate.
As you know, Mr. Speaker, I have a Native American heritage. Many of
the people in the tribe to which I belong are historically Democrat.
But frankly they supported me because they thought I had the ability to
represent their views and their point of view. That is in essence what
is at stake here, whether or not we will discriminate or stand idly by
and watch someone discriminated against simply because they hold a view
which a minority of people think might be unpopular but which the
majority in this country clearly support.
I want to thank the gentleman from Florida again for taking on this
fight, for waging it so diligently and for mobilizing so much support
on behalf of not just an individual but on behalf of the defense of
fundamental American principles.
Mr. MARIO DIAZ-BALART of Florida. I want to thank the distinguished
gentleman from Oklahoma. As always, he has a way of really speaking
with a lot of common sense. I want to thank the gentleman for that, for
bringing some sense of reality to what sometimes can be a pretty crazy
process.
Mr. Speaker, in my remaining time, I just want to really thank and
commend Senator Hatch, Senator
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Santorum, and many others on that side for standing up for the
Constitution of the United States, for standing up for fairness.
Announcement by the Speaker Pro Tempore
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman is admonished to not mention
individual Senators.
Mr. MARIO DIAZ-BALART of Florida. There are many who are standing up
for the Constitution.
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