[Congressional Record Volume 148, Number 68 (Thursday, May 23, 2002)]
[Senate]
[Pages S4792-S4793]
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UNANIMOUS CONSENT REQUEST--S. 2551
Mr. DASCHLE. Prior to that, I urge our colleagues to consider the
final piece of business. I am pleased the distinguished chair of the
Appropriations Committee is on the floor. He and I have had many
conversations with regard to the need to pass the supplemental.
The President has admonished the Senate to complete our work on the
supplemental before Memorial Day. I have indicated to Senator Byrd that
that would be my desire, to complete our work on the supplemental prior
to Memorial Day. And I indicated on the Senate floor earlier today it
would be my hope that we could complete our work.
Obviously, there are many pieces of legislation that await us when we
return.
So for a lot of reasons, the fact that this money is going primarily
to defense and homeland security--we have seen warnings now issued in
the last couple of weeks with regard to the need to respond even more
consequentially to our homeland security requirements--I think the
urgency of the bill is very much in evidence.
Madam President, I ask unanimous consent that immediately following
the disposition of the trade bill, the Senate proceed to the
consideration of S. 2551, the Senate supplemental appropriations bill;
that there be 10 hours for debate on the bill, equally divided between
the chairman and the ranking member of the Appropriations Committee;
that all amendments be relevant to the bill and limited to 30 minutes
of debate, equally divided in the usual form, with the amendment debate
time counting toward the 10-hour cap; and that upon the disposition of
the amendments, the bill be read a third time and passed, without any
intervening action or debate.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection?
Mr. McCAIN. Reserving the right to object----
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Arizona.
Mr. McCAIN.--and I will object--first of all, I believe it is the
procedure in the Congress for all revenue bills to be passed by the
other body first. Isn't that correct? We would wait for the other body
to proceed with their completion of the appropriations bill, which they
have not done.
Madam President, just last night my office received these two
documents: one at 50-some pages and the other 50-some pages, which is
an explanatory statement of the recommendations of the Senate
committee. We have not had a chance, obviously, to go through that long
appropriations bill.
I noticed, among other supplemental appropriations, there is $5
million for individual quota fishing loans. I knew we were in an
emergency here in the country--these fishing loans for halibut, I guess
there is a halibut problem up in Alaska of which, unfortunately, the
Nation has not been made aware.
But buried in this bill are other ``emergencies,'' such as the
halibut emergency for $5 million. There are fundamental changes made in
the aviation loan program which was passed overwhelmingly by this body
for the airlines, which really has nothing to do with supplemental
appropriations. There are many other policy changes, as is the practice
of the Appropriations Committee--as is the practice.
I am not going to agree to any unanimous consent request. This bill
has been over since April. We just got it last night. And you expect us
to agree to 10 hours of debate and passing this bill? No. No. It is
disgraceful.
We are going to change the way we do business around here. The
appropriators are going to understand that there are other Senators who
need to be involved when in an emergency supplemental appropriations
bill there are policy changes which have nothing to do with any
national emergency--whether they be a change to the aviation loan
program or whether they be an emergency for halibut.
I object.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Objection is heard.
Mr. DASCHLE. Madam President, let me respond briefly, because I know
the distinguished Republican leader would like to make a comment as
well.
With regard to the House action, of course, we wouldn't complete our
work on the bill until the House has done its work. We expect that will
be done shortly. We have done similar appropriations work on many
occasions in the past. We need to move forward.
As I said, there is an urgency to many of the provisions of this
legislation. We are talking about defense and homeland security in
particular.
I would also note that this bill is subject to amendment. Senators
wishing to offer amendments would be entitled to do so.
I am disappointed we were not able to get the unanimous consent
agreement. I think it does again delay our chances to complete this
work and to get it done in a way that accommodates the President's
request and our appreciation for the urgency of addressing this work.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Republican leader.
Mr. LOTT. Madam President, we received this request at approximately
5:28 this afternoon. I will make a couple of points with regard to the
legislation, some of it with regard to what Senator McCain was just
saying.
I understand the Senate bill was reported last night and we were only
able to get a copy of the measure earlier today. Senator McCain and
others are going through the bill to see exactly what its present
condition is. It is obviously in the legislative process. It is
different from what the President had requested. It is different from
what the House passed. Therefore, we need to make sure we know exactly
the present condition of what is in the bill.
For instance, the President asked for this supplemental for defense
and homeland security, about $27.1 billion. The House-passed bill that
we have not yet received is at approximately $29.4 billion. This bill
is approximately $31 billion.
Mr. McCAIN. Will the Senator yield for a question on that?
Mr. LOTT. I am glad to yield.
Mr. McCAIN. Isn't it the Senator's recollection that when this side
of the aisle was in the majority, the other side always insisted that
the appropriations bills come over from the House before the Senate
would be allowed to act? Is that not the recollection of the Senator?
Mr. LOTT. I know in the past my colleagues on the other side insisted
we wait on the House appropriations bill in order to provide a defense
of germaneness. So that has been the practice; the Senator is correct.
I understand we are going to get the House bill later tonight, but it
may be, actually, in the morning before we get it. I also understand
that no report was filed with the bill, although there is some sort of
explanatory statement. Perhaps that will be helpful and maybe that is
intended to be in place of the report. That is a concern, too.
The consent that was propounded asked for debate and amendment limits
before Members even really knew what
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we would be amending. It puts us in a very difficult position.
Having said all of that, certainly this measure is vitally important.
I have already been talking to Senator Daschle about what is the best
way to go to it, what is the earliest time we could go to it. Even if
we took it up and some wanted time later on tonight or tomorrow, it
looks to me as if it would take quite some time to get it done. We
would not be able to get into conference with the House before we come
back from the Memorial Day recess.
I am hoping we could go ahead and talk back and forth and try to get
agreement that when we come back from the recess, if we don't get some
agreement worked out otherwise, it would be the pending business or we
would quickly get a process so we could start work on it Monday when we
come back or Tuesday, the 4th, and hopefully get agreement relatively
quickly, even with amendments, once people know what they are amending,
and then be able to get it right on in to the conference with the
House.
Clearly, we do need to get this done. I must say that it has been a
slow process. The request from the administration was slow coming. The
bill coming from the House has been slow. Now here we are right up
against this recess. It has not been the best way to do it.
It is about $4 billion more than what the President asked. I am sure
the mix within that $31 billion has been changed. We need to take a
look at it. Hurriedly, we have been trying to go through what has been
added. Clearly, a lot of it is not national defense or homeland
security related: things such as the senior farmer's market nutrition
program, money for a national polar orbiting operating environmental
satellite system, some amount of money for attorney retention allowance
for the District for attorneys that, even though they got a bonus for
staying with DC, they subsequently became union members and were not
entitled to the bonus. This would say they can keep the bonus. There is
U.N. population fund language in here which always causes a fuss.
Just looking hurriedly over the amendments on agriculture, justice,
commerce, DOD, education, a lot of issues that would not be described
in any way as relating to national defense and homeland security, we
need a little time to review all this and see what amendments may be
necessary.
I must say--I know Senator Byrd understands this--I always am very
antsy about proceeding without Senator Stevens being around when we are
doing appropriations bills. So that is a factor, too.
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