[Congressional Record Volume 148, Number 15 (Friday, February 15, 2002)]
[Senate]
[Pages S882-S883]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]




                        AGRICULTURAL PRIORITIES

  Mr. CONRAD. Mr. President, when I came to my office this morning, I 
received the surprising news that our Secretary of Agriculture has now 
apparently asked her counterpart in Canada to come to the United States 
to lobby against the farm bill that is pending.
  I have never heard of such a thing. We now have reports that the 
Secretary of Agriculture of the United States is asking an official of 
a foreign government to come to Washington to lobby the Congress 
against the farm bill that is designed to help American farmers? What 
is she thinking of?
  The article I am referring to is from the Ottawa Bureau of the 
Western Producer, and this story says the Canadian Agriculture 
Minister, Lyle Vanclief, received surprising advice when he called 
American Agriculture Secretary Ann Veneman to complain about the 
possibility that a new United States farm bill would authorize a 
multiyear, multibillion-dollar farm subsidy program. Veneman invited 
Vanclief to come south to get involved in the debate. This is a quote 
from the article:

       She told Lyle to put pressure on Congress, Vanclief press 
     aide Donald Boulanger said. She said their political system 
     is different from ours because Congress has so much power. 
     She said--

  This is quoting the Secretary of Agriculture of the United States--

       Lyle, you have to help me lobby Congress.

  This is not the way any Cabinet Secretary ought to do their business. 
It is totally and thoroughly inappropriate for the U.S. Secretary of 
Agriculture to ask an agriculture minister of a foreign government to 
come and lobby the Congress against a farm bill that is designed to 
help American farmers. This cannot be.
  I am writing a letter today to the President asking him to renounce 
these apparent efforts by his Secretary of Agriculture to have the 
officials of a foreign country become involved in a domestic political 
discussion in our country.
  This is a very serious matter. This cannot be the way this 
administration does its business. I call on the President today to send 
a very clear message to the Secretary of Agriculture in his 
administration that she cannot be pursuing foreign government officials 
to come to this country to lobby this Congress to become involved in a 
debate in our country. What is next by this Secretary of Agriculture? 
Has she forgotten whose side she is on? She is in the Cabinet of the 
President of the United States, not in the Cabinet of the Government of 
Canada. She is not in the cabinet of the European governments, which 
would welcome the kind of advice that apparently she is giving and the 
kind of involvement in our domestic affairs she is reportedly seeking 
from the minister of agriculture in another country's government.
  It is as though the Secretary of Agriculture of the United States has 
completely forgotten her obligation. The reason it is critically 
important for us to pass a farm bill is to try to level the playing 
field to some degree with our major competitors.
  In case our Secretary has forgotten, I have a chart which shows an 
analysis of the difference between what our major competitors are doing 
for their farmers and what we are doing for ours. This is Europe. They 
are our major competitors. This is what they are doing on average per 
year to support their farmers: Over $300 an acre of support. The 
comparable figure in the United States: $38. These are not my numbers, 
these are the numbers of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and 
Development. These are the international scorekeeper's numbers. They 
are the ones that are telling us our major competitors are doing far 
more for their producers than we are doing for ours. And it does not 
stop there, because on world export subsidy, this is the picture: This 
pie represents all world agricultural export subsidies. The blue part 
of this pie is Europe's share. Eighty-four percent of all world 
agricultural export subsidies is European. They are buying these 
markets. The U.S. share is this little red sliver--less than 3 percent. 
So we are being outgunned nearly 30 to 1. And we have a Secretary of 
Agriculture who is reportedly calling on an official of a foreign 
government to come to our country to lobby our Congress against a farm 
bill for our farmers? It is absolutely preposterous.

  This is what our farmers are up against, and we have a Secretary of 
Agriculture who is supposed to represent American farmers, not Canadian 
farmers. Here is what American farmers have experienced: The green line 
is the prices farmers have paid for the inputs they must buy. The red 
line shows the prices farmers have received.
  It is very interesting that the peak of prices for farmers occurred 
at the time we wrote the last farm bill. Since that time, one can see 
what has occurred: A virtual price collapse. The gap between the prices 
farmers are paid and the prices they pay has turned into this enormous 
gulf. It is no wonder agriculture in America is in deep trouble. It is 
no wonder when I ask my farmers what happens if they do not have this 
new farm bill, the answer from one of the major farm group leaders in 
my State was: It will be a race to the auctioneer.
  That is the reality. That is because our farmers are out here playing 
on the world stage. We are asking them to compete against the French 
farmer and the German farmer, and we are telling them: While you are at 
it, take on the French and German Government, as well.
  That is not a fair fight. We can either choose to wave the flag of 
surrender and give up, throw in the towel, let our people be wiped out, 
or we can fight back. That is what this farm bill debate is about.
  Now we have the Secretary of Agriculture of the United States 
apparently calling her Canadian counterpart, urging him to come to this 
country to fight against the farm bill that is moving through our 
Congress. I have to wonder what she is thinking. She is not on the 
payroll of the Canadian Government. She is a part of the United States 
Government. It is thoroughly and totally inappropriate for her to be 
asking a representative of a foreign government to come to this country 
to lobby the U.S. Congress against a farm bill for American farmers.
  Mr. DORGAN. Will the Senator yield?
  Mr. CONRAD. I am happy to yield to the Senator.
  Mr. DORGAN. I listened to my colleague. I have not seen the report, 
nor do I know the contents of that report. However, as my colleague has 
stated, it is not appropriate, in my judgment, for Canadians to be 
lobbying our Congress about a domestic farm program, or for anyone from 
our administration to be inviting them down.
  My hope is that that did not happen that the press report is 
erroneous--and the Secretary will put out a statement saying that is 
not accurate. If it is accurate, it is inappropriate. Senator Conrad is 
certainly right about that.
  This raises the broader point that, for the last 6 months, trying to 
get a farm bill out of this Congress has been an awful process. It is 
as if those who knew that we needed to get a better farm bill in order 
to enable family farmers to survive have been on a bicycle built for 
two, and we have been on the front seat pedaling uphill as hard as we 
could pedal, and the administration has been on the back seat with 
their foot on the break.

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  Every step of the way the administration has said: we don't think you 
should do this; we don't believe you need a new farm bill. The 
administration told the House of Representatives not to write one. And 
the House of Representatives said: it doesn't matter what you say, we 
will do it.
  The administration told the Senate not to pass a farm bill in 2001. 
We had to go through three cloture votes and still could not get the 60 
votes necessary to pass it in 2001.
  This year, We have finally gotten a bill out of the Senate. It is in 
conference. We need to complete this quickly.
  With respect to the issue of Canada, Canada is a good neighbor of 
ours, but it regrettably has undercut our Government and undercut our 
farmers in every way possible since the United States-Canada Free Trade 
Agreement. Canada dumped its wheat in our country and refused to open 
its books and records that would demonstrate there is unfair trade. We 
have sent people, including the GAO, to Canada to get those records. 
The Canadians have effectively thumbed their nose at all of our 
representatives and said: we are not going to give them to you.
  I don't think we need advice from Canada about how to help our 
farmers. What we need from the Canadians is for them to stop hurting 
our farmers. They have a State-sponsored monopoly in Canada called the 
Canadian Wheat Board that would be illegal in this country. Every day 
in every way for years they have been trying to undercut our family 
farmers with unfair trade.
  Senator Conrad is right when he says we do not need advice from 
Canadians about how to do domestic agricultural policy in our country. 
It is not welcome in my view. What is welcome is for the Canadians to 
decide that good neighbors ought not undercut each other with unfair 
trade. If they take that step once, they help American farmers with 
respect to fair trade.
  I thank Senator Conrad for allowing me to respond to his comments.
  Mr. CONRAD. I thank my colleague for his insight. It is a remarkable 
set of circumstances. I call on the Secretary. If this press report is 
inaccurate, I hope she will say so publicly and do it today. But this 
press report quotes the spokesman, a press aide of her counterpart in 
Canada, the Canadian Agriculture Minister, Lyle Vanclief; his press 
aide, a Mr. Donald Boulanger, is quoted. This is what the article 
reports:

       She told Lyle [Mr. Vanclief, Canadian Agriculture Minister] 
     to put pressure on Congress.

  That is in quotation marks. Following that, again quoting Mr. 
Boulanger, the press aide for the Canadian Agriculture Minister:

       She said their political system is different from ours 
     because Congress has so much power. She said, Lyle, you have 
     to help me lobby Congress.

  I hope it is wrong. I hope the Secretary will today indicate she 
never made any such invitation, that she never made such a statement. 
If this is her statement, I think she has a lot of explaining to do. It 
probably should start with an explanation to the President of the 
United States, why a Secretary of Agriculture of the United States is 
imploring her Canadian counterpart to come to lobby the U.S. Congress 
against a farm bill that is pending before the Congress of this 
country.

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