[Congressional Record Volume 147, Number 167 (Wednesday, December 5, 2001)]
[House]
[Pages H8894-H8901]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]
OPPOSING FAST TRACK
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Simmons). Under the Speaker's announced
policy of January 3, 2001, the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Brown) is
recognized for 60 minutes as the designee of the minority leader.
Mr. BROWN of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, earlier today I joined a number of my
colleagues from the House and leaders of the most influential
environmental groups in the United States to express opposition to so-
called Fast Track, granting the President Trade Promotion Authority.
The presence of this coalition highlighted quite impressively the
solidarity of the environmental community on this critical vote.
Another thing that underscores the solidarity of the environmental
community against the Thomas bill is the stern warning issued by the
League of Conservation Voters that it will likely score this vote. The
LCV takes its scoring seriously and to ensure balance in its ratings
only scores environmental votes for which there is absolute unanimity
in the environmental community. The League of Conservation Voters has
never before scored a trade vote. That means the environmental
community has never been so focused on and so unanimously supportive of
and so involved in a trade vote in this country's history.
Why is there such urgency in the environmental community in
opposition to the Thomas Fast Track proposal? Because this bill would
do nothing, would do nothing to prevent countries from lowering their
environmental standards to gain unfair trade advantages. It would do
nothing to require that the environmental provisions be included in the
core text of our trade agreements, because it would do nothing to
ensure that the environmental provisions in future trade agreements are
enforceable by sanctions.
Instead, it would transfer the burden to consumers and to regulators
to prove that the science underlying domestic regulation is beyond
dispute, resulting in a downwards harmonization of our environmental
laws, a rollback of environmental laws, a weakening of environmental
regulation. It would encourage Western companies to build manufacturing
plants in countries with the least stringent environmental laws, and,
as a result, cost skilled American workers good-paying jobs.
It would allow future trade agreements to include provisions like
NAFTA's chapter 11, encouraging so-called regulatory tax claims by
foreign companies and threatening hard-won democratically enacted laws
and regulations that protect our natural resources.
This investor-state relationship cast by chapter 11 of the North
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Free Trade Agreement exemplifies the greatest imaginable abuse of our
democratic principles. It allows private corporations to sue a
sovereign government and overturn domestic health and safety laws.
Think about that for a minute. A country can pass a law that that
country's democratically elected legislative body contends, believes,
will in fact help the environment and promote public health. A company
in another country, a privately owned large corporation in another
country, can go to court and sue the government, the democratically
elected government, even force that democratically elected government
to repeal its environmental law to weaken its public health
regulations.
U.S. Trade Representative Bob Zoellick, a Bush appointee, is
committed to including those same anti-consumer, anti-environmental,
anti-public health, anti-combat-bioterrorism provisions in Fast Track.
Under this provision, not only can laws be overturned, but taxpayers of
the subject nation can be liable for damages if a NAFTA tribunal rules
that a law or regulation causes an unfair barrier to free trade.
That sounds pretty outrageous. It makes one incredulous. It sounds
like it could not happen, but it actually happened. When Canada passed
a law to promote clean air in automobile emissions, Canada's public
health community said this is important to fight cancer in Canada. A
U.S. company sued Canada in a NAFTA tribunal. The U.S. company won the
case against Canada, which had passed a public law protecting the
public health. Canada had to repeal its public health law. Canada had
to pay this American company $13 million.
Sometimes it will be against Canada and a democratic law there,
sometimes it will be against the United States and a public law here,
sometimes against Mexico, France, Germany or wherever.
I am joined today by my friend, the gentleman from Ohio (Mr.
Strickland), and the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Bonior). The three of
us worked many years ago in opposition to NAFTA, and the gentleman from
Michigan (Mr. Bonior) in those days, as he has continued to, has led
the opposition to these agreements.
I yield to the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Strickland).
Mr. STRICKLAND. I would like to say to my friend from Ohio that as I
am standing here listening to what you are saying, it causes me to
think there are some in this Chamber who are willing to relinquish
their responsibilities to protect the ability of this country to make
sovereign decisions in the best interests of the people that we were
elected to represent.
I mean, to think that we in this body as representatives of the
people could come together in a deliberative process, make a decision
that we collectively feel is in the best interests of the health and
safety of our Nation, and then to have entered into an agreement that
would allow a for-profit foreign corporation to bring suit against our
government based on their objections to what we think is best for the
United States of America, it seems to me if we were to allow that we
are relinquishing our constitutional responsibilities.
Who are we responsible for representing and protecting, some foreign
national company, a multinational company with no particular allegiance
to any country, any democratic principles, any form of government, but
whose bottom line is in fact profit? It just seems almost unbelievable
to me that we would ever allow that to happen. It is an unconscionable
thing. It is difficult to even contemplate that this government would
ever permit that.
What the gentleman says, I assume, is an accurate interpretation of
what the circumstances would be.
Mr. BROWN of Ohio. Even people that support Trade Promotion Authority
acknowledge that that is what that provision does. When it was put into
NAFTA in 1993, when this Congress in a very narrow vote passed NAFTA in
November of that year, people did not quite understand that provision.
That provision was sold to the Congress and to the American public.
Even though the three of us all voted against NAFTA that are talking
this evening, this afternoon, that provision was sold to protect
American investors in Mexico where the government might expropriate or
take their properties.
But in fact it is clear that the way that has worked is time after
time after time corporations have sued foreign governments, in this
case Canada, Mexico, the United States, a corporation in one of the
three countries has sued a government in one of the other two, and each
time, in almost every case, the government has lost, the government
which passed these laws to protect in most cases the public health,
sometimes the environment, sometimes consumer protection law, but laws
that were passed by those governments were repealed. It is almost so
unbelievable that you cannot believe that this Congress would do it.
Mr. STRICKLAND. I was just thinking very recently, in fact, just a
few days ago, we were able to get an amendment in the defense bill that
would require that any steel used in the military apparatus that would
be purchased with funds in that bill would have to be American-made
steel.
I remember as we were discussing and debating that possibility, there
were those who said, well, this would be acceptable, because there is
an exemption for these kinds of decisions that relate specifically to
national security. But what the gentleman is saying, I believe, is that
in most cases there could be a decision made by this House of
Representatives, the Senate of the United States, legislation signed
into law by the President, and if it was interpreted to be in violation
of these trade agreements as providing perhaps protections to our
citizens that under the international trade laws would be deemed
inappropriate or inconsistent with those laws, that there could
actually be legal action taken against our government by a foreign
corporation to try to force a change in the domestic law of this land.
Is that a correct interpretation?
Mr. BROWN of Ohio. The correct interpretation in this case, it is
very possible that a steel company in Mexico or Canada might sue the
U.S. Government for passing a provision like that, saying that is an
unfair trade practice, and might be able to get the NAFTA tribunal, the
three-judge panel, to overturn U.S. law.
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One of the reasons they do that and one of the reasons these three-
judge panels have decided against public health laws, against
environmental protections passed by a majority of this House and Senate
and signed by the President, or consumer protection or any of those
laws, is because of the nature of those three-judge tribunals, those
panels. They are made up of trade lawyers, not public health experts,
not consumer protection experts, not environmental experts. They are
made up of trade lawyers.
They meet behind closed doors. They do not accept petitions or
testimony from third parties, and they then can turn around and repeal
a sovereign nation, as we are, as Mexico is, as Canada is. They can
repeal a sovereign nation's public health and environmental laws.
So when we have these panels made up of trade lawyers who typically
sit in downtown offices and rule on trade issues and decide the arcane
minutia of trade issues but do not have any real expertise or any real
interest in environment or public health issues and policy and laws, we
lose time after time after time. We have lost public health laws and
environmental laws repeatedly in the World Trade Organization with
those same secret panels making those decisions. We do not know
anything about the proceedings and, all of a sudden, it is in the
paper. We get a notice.
Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Bonior).
Mr. BONIOR. Mr. Speaker, to follow up on this very good discussion on
sovereignty here, it gets to not only the question of multinational
corporations, foreign corporations in the example that the gentleman
from Ohio (Mr. Strickland) gave, but there is also a taking away of
local units of government's power and State units of government's
power.
For instance, we have a particular problem in my State of Michigan
with trash, garbage, coming in from Canada. Toronto has decided that it
is much easier, more economical, less hassle, to bury all of their
waste in Wayne County, Michigan, which is the county the City of
Detroit is located in. So they
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haul their garbage across the Ambassador Bridge, the Bluewater Bridge
in my area up in Port Huron. We have a couple hundred trucks a day that
come across there with garbage, and God knows what is inside these
facilities, and they take it to a dump, and they dump it there.
Now, let us assume that we try to overturn the basic law of this
country which says that garbage companies are free to move garbage
anywhere they want to vis-a-vis the Interstate Commerce Clause of the
Constitution. There was a court ruling that was made in 1992, I
believe, on the Fort Gratiot landfill case which went all the way to
the U.S. Supreme Court.
If we decided in this institution or the State of Michigan decided in
their legislature to say, no, you cannot do that, you cannot bring your
garbage and make Michigan a dumping ground, that company or those
companies, those trash haulers, those garbage companies could go to
court and say, well, wait a minute. This is an impediment on free
trade. This is an impediment of moving commerce. And those kinds of
panels that the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Brown) just alluded to could
make the decision that what we do here or what they do in the State of
Michigan is irrelevant, because it impedes trade.
Now, there are hundreds of U.S. laws on the environment, as the
gentleman pointed out, on food safety, on antitrust, on just laws that
deal with people expressing themselves at the local level about a
policy on human rights that they may object to, which may be taking
place in a regime that is persecuting its people abroad that could be
struck down as a result of empowering international panels and taking
away the power from this institution, local and State governments.
So this is real serious stuff, and it goes way beyond just dollars
and cents in trade. We are talking, as the gentleman pointed out, about
food safety, health care, human rights, antitrust, labor law. You name
it. It is all kind of wrapped up here.
If I could make one other point and then yield back to those who have
the time, that is the broader issue here of relinquishing our power as
a Nation and as a State and as governments. But the more internal
debate to that is what this institution, this U.S. House of
Representatives is doing in terms of receding from the powers that the
Constitution gives us in Article I, Section 8, which is the power to
deal with trade laws. We are handing that over to the executive branch.
It is very, very disturbing, the change in the balance of power
switching over to the executive branch and to corporate America,
basically, here. That is what is going on.
This may seem a little arcane to people, a little not too clear
because of its legalistic implications and language, but I can assure
my colleagues that it gets right back down to whether or not we are
going to have garbage buried in our backyard or out our window, or
whether or not we are going to be able to go to the supermarket and get
food that we are assured is going to be safe for us to feed our
families.
I mean, it gets down to some really basic things here. We are trying
to bring the argument and trying to make the American people see that
under the cloak or the disguise of this legalese debate we are having
here on ``fast track,'' that it is going to affect everybody in this
country in a dramatic way.
Mr. Speaker, I thank my colleagues for raising the issue.
Mr. BROWN of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, none of the three of us is a lawyer;
and we are explaining, in a sense, a legal procedure here that really
is pretty simple. It is a question of increasing corporate powers by
turning over our sovereignty, turning over our ability to make
democratic determinations, whether it is where a community puts its
trash, whether it is a food safety law, whether it is a clean air
regulation, whether it is a public health program. We are saying in
these agreements that we will cede power from a democratic government
to a private corporation.
Mr. Speaker, when we come to this institution, we have seen this kind
of corporate power in this institution. There is not much doubt that
corporations wield huge amounts of power when we try to pass strong
food safety laws, we try to pass good public health laws, clean air
laws, bioterrorism laws, protections for our food supply, labor
standards, minimum wage. Whenever we try to pass a bill like that, it
is always met with huge resistance from the largest corporations in the
country, the largest corporations in the world. So we, in many cases,
overcome that resistance and do what is right for the public.
I wear this lapel pin which symbolizes a lot of things to me. It is a
canary in a birdcage. One hundred years ago the miners used to take a
canary down in the mines in a birdcage, and if the canary died, the
miners they had to get out of the mine. It was the only protection they
had. The government did nothing to help them.
In these 100 years, when 100 years ago the average child born in this
country could live to be about 47 in terms of the average, in those 100
years this institution has passed minimum wage laws, safe drinking
water, pure food laws, Medicare, Social Security, clean air laws,
worker protections, mine safety. We have done all of those things
against great resistance from the wealthiest, most privileged people in
society. We have been able to do that in this institution.
Now, even when we do that, we are going to see corporations in one
country try to overturn the laws we have done. So we passed them with
great difficulty against huge campaign contribution dollars and
lobbying and all of the special interest groups that fight progressive,
good government that helps the public, and then these groups turn
around now, these big companies, and they sue democratic governments to
stop, to overturn their environmental laws and weaken their food safety
laws and hurt their labor laws and try to devastate so many of the
protections that we have been able to accomplish as a society, with
people pushing their Congress to do the right thing.
Now some faceless bureaucrats on a trade panel, a NAFTA tribunal can,
out of the public light, in a back room, simply wipe away those kinds
of environmental laws.
Mr. BONIOR. And then, Mr. Speaker, go to the lowest standard, go to
the lowest standard. That is what they are after. They want to take us
back to where we were when people used to take canaries down in a
birdcage. They go to the lowest standard, and the lowest standard is
often in the developing world.
It is in countries that are trying to develop a body of law but
cannot get there because of the international corporate pressure not to
go there, to keep wages low, to keep standards low. They cannot get
there because labor unions cannot form because of that same kind of
pressure. They cannot get to our standard.
So because they cannot get to our standards because of institutional
pressures within their own country, these corporate entities now have
bonded together with them and are trying to bring down our standard
here.
Mr. BROWN of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, before I yield to the gentleman from
Ohio (Mr. Strickland), we are joined by three other Democrats, and they
are the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Pascrell); the gentlewoman from
Texas (Ms. Jackson-Lee); and the gentlewoman from California (Ms.
Solis).
Let me yield to the gentleman from Ohio, and then the rest can join
in.
Mr. STRICKLAND. Mr. Speaker, I will be very brief. But I think it is
important for those who are listening to us to understand why we are
here tonight, and it is because we are going to be called upon tomorrow
to cast a vote, and we are going to cast a vote that will protect the
sovereignty of our Nation, or we will cast a vote that potentially will
turn over all the decisionmaking that is important to all of the
multiple millions of people that we collectively represent to this
three-panel assemblage.
Now, I would like to ask the gentlewoman from Texas, and I think I
know the answer, but which American citizens are able to vote and
select any of those three persons that would be in a position to make
decisions regarding the health and safety and security of this Nation?
Is any American citizen ever going to be in a position to cast a vote
to select these persons who are going to be making decisions for all
Americans?
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Mr. BROWN of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, before the gentlewoman from Texas
answers, here is an additional question. Is anybody even going to know
the names of the people that sit on that panel?
Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas. Mr. Speaker, obviously, absolutely not. And
as the gentleman makes that point, the people's House, the
representatives that come to the people's House, are themselves barred
from even speaking on behalf of the people for having any oversight
into this kind of legislative initiative. So I see no opportunity for
the people to speak about this legislation.
Mr. Speaker, I would be happy to further the point of the
distinguished gentleman, because I think it is a very valid point. I
rise to suggest to my colleagues in a bipartisan manner that a far
better approach would have been if we had accepted both the offer and
the interest some years back of the gentleman from New York (Mr.
Sweeney). I do not come to the floor to quote or to put words in the
gentleman's mouth at all, but I do remember some years back when these
discussions were coming about and there was some interest to be able to
hear the vital points that labor had to offer about how we can truly
have the working people's trade bill. I believe that he had some very
meritorious points that would have allowed us, even to this point, to
come together with a bill that would have answered many of the concerns
that are totally ignored in H.R. 3005, which is the Thomas bill.
That is, if I can point out, number one, there are no labor standards
whatsoever. Right now in my district I have 4,000 people laid off by
one of our very vital companies. We may have a total of 10,000. I would
venture to say that those constituents are really looking for jobs
right here, and their priorities are more about how they are going to
survive over the holiday season.
I have taken trade on a case-by-case basis, looking to see
opportunities where we could work together. In this instance, I have
higher priorities, and that is to be able to assist those individuals
in finding jobs, keeping jobs, and providing for their families.
Tomorrow we are going to be asked, rather than dealing with those
needs, the unemployment needs of America, to put forward a bill that
disallows any type of labor standards so that countries with poor labor
standards will maintain those standards; and, in fact, under the
present bill that we have, the underlying bill, countries with poor
labor standards are not required to have or implement any of the five
core standards. So no labor standards whatsoever. That suggests to me
that, rather than benefit from jobs being generated, we will lose by
jobs being lost to other places, because someone will try invariably to
avoid following any labor standards.
Might I also say that, in talking to many corporations, I have heard
them saying that we wish we could have worked in a bipartisan way. We
wish we could have had more people at the table. As it relates to the
environment, we are finding out that there is no addressing of the
environment in the Thomas bill.
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There are no legal or technical incentives to make sure we strengthen
the environmental laws and regulations.
Then I would like to speak to, as I sort of draw to a close, the idea
of the point that the distinguished gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Brown)
made; that is regarding the oversight, the voice of the people, the
people's House being able to speak.
With a narrow three-person body, there is no opportunity in the bill
that will be on the floor tomorrow for us to have congressional
oversight, for there to be an involvement of the people's voice; for
the voters who have voted for those in this body and elsewhere to be
able to have oversight over whether or not human rights is being
protected, whether or not we are using child labor, whether or not we
are using slave labor.
And believe me, Mr. Speaker, it exists. In Afghanistan, children are
making bricks who are 8 years old and 7 years old. As we went to
Bangladesh and other places around the world, there is child labor. We
are trying to work against that.
However, the point is if Congress has no oversight, and we have a
small body that does not have to listen to us, then who is to say that
these violations will not be promoted?
I am going to vote for the Rangel substitute because I believe we
have ways of making a difference, but I am ashamed that we would put
forward legislation like this that does not answer the question of
labor, working with those who believe working people deserve a decent
place to work; and does not address the environment, because I am
shamed that if I have a minimal amount of a good quality of life here
in America, that I would put on others a devil-may-care attitude: Who
cares about how you function and how you live?
Finally, I would say that we who have been elected by the people of
this great Nation, who cast their vote for us to go to the people's
body, are totally blocked and excluded from any oversight to protect
the values of the people who we represent, from human rights to the
rights of children to the rights of women to the fairness in the
judicial system or court system. None of that comes to us now. We just
abdicate our responsibilities. I believe that we cannot do that and
that we must stand up and be heard.
I thank the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Brown) for his untiring work on
this issue, bringing to the people the point that none of us coming
from our districts disown our business communities. We work with them;
and we do a lot for them, I believe, in many, many different aspects,
because they are our communities.
But we cannot disown our values tonight and tomorrow, and we must be
able to say that the two of those could have come together if we would
have had a process where all of our voices could have been heard.
Mr. BROWN of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentlewoman of Houston,
Texas, who always articulates so well her views on this and so many
other things.
When we talked about articulating our values and representing those
values, I think about what the President's Trade Representative, Robert
Zoellick, has been saying the last month or so.
He has been really saying that those of us, whether it is the
gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Pascrell), the gentlewoman from
California (Ms. Solis), the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Strickland), the
gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Bonior), any of us in this institution,
Republicans and Democrats alike, who oppose this trade agreement, he
really has questioned our commitment to American values and whether we
want to join the antiterrorism movement.
In fact, when one supports the position we have taken against these
trade agreements, we in fact are supporting American values, because
American values are things like free elections and believing in the
Constitution and supporting workers around the world, and building a
better environment and more consumer safety and food safety, and all of
that.
That is why it is too bad that their campaign in support of this and
their arm-twisting, especially in the last 72 hours, has taken on a
tone of ``you are either with us or against us; you are either against
terrorism or you are for terrorism, or you are against American values
or for American values.''
We are joined by two other people. The gentlewoman from California
(Ms. Solis) is a freshman member who has devoted her entire career to
fighting for social justice. The gentleman from New Jersey (Mr.
Pascrell) raised some very important constitutional questions of
sovereignty that we touched on and the gentleman from Ohio (Mr.
Strickland) touched on earlier, all four of us.
He has really attracted a lot of interest in his views of the
Constitution and why this Trade Promotion Authority really does
undercut our constitutional provisions and sovereignty.
Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gentlewoman from California (Ms. Solis).
Ms. SOLIS. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding to me. It
is an honor to be here tonight to talk about this very important issue,
one that hits home directly for me.
As a former State Senator in California, back in 1995 I had the
dubious distinction of representing a district where it was found that
72 Thai women workers were held hostage, slave labor here in our own
country, 72 women.
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Some had been there for 7 years. Some were not paid overtime. Some were
not even paid minimum wage.
My whole opinion on this matter is that if we do not have enough
support here in our own borders at times, how can we also, with all
honesty and integrity, go out and expect other countries that have
records that are much more egregious than ours to meet these standards
that we want to set, that the American public wants to set?
I can tell Members firsthand how difficult it is trying to secure
rights for workers now, for immigrant workers in our own country, along
the border and in East Los Angeles, and the city of El Monte in the San
Gabriel Valley, which I represent, that people are even being paid
minimum wage, and they are sometimes not allowed to bargain or join a
union.
I know in Mexico and other parts of Central America and South America
and other parts of the world, people are not allowed to join a union.
In fact, they are tortured, they are harassed, they are told why they
cannot and that they will be fired and they will lose their jobs and
they will go hungry.
These are the kinds of things that the public should know.
Mr. PASCRELL. Mr. Speaker, if the gentlewoman will yield for a
comment, the gentlewoman from California has brought up a very
important point. Is it not ironic that the very people we invite to our
shores, ``Give us your tired, your hungry,'' come here from countries
that we are now transporting jobs to?
We are talking out of both sides of our mouth, and the gentlewoman
from California has to deal with it, as many of us on both sides of the
aisle have to deal with unemployment problems. It is growing. We are
losing our manufacturing base.
It just struck me when the gentlewoman was speaking, that very
example, that very anecdotal story the gentlewoman is presenting to
America, and her heart and sincerity are in it, that we are talking out
of both sides of our mouths and inviting people here and then
transporting jobs to their countries. They are needed here first. We
know our international responsibilities.
Ms. SOLIS. Mr. Speaker, I just want to encourage the public to know
that many of us here in Congress do want to have this very serious
debate, but we have been left out. In fact, we have been left out all
the time. We are losing jobs. In my district, we are looking at
unemployment rates of over 9 percent.
I am going to talk about that later on this evening. But the fact of
the matter is that the people we are inspiring here in our country to
support us, to stick with us, we are telling them one thing and we are
doing another. Our actions are showing them that we do not care about
the quality of life for our families here.
We have to make a statement, and I am proud to be here to say that we
cannot go home and turn our backs on working families. Working families
want to know that we are going to take care not only of the domestic
front here but also those relationships that we want to set across the
country.
I know that in Tijuana, for example, there is a Hyundai factory along
the border there. People tried to organize there, some Mexican workers.
They were told not to worry, they will get their opportunity. Women and
men were stuck in a situation there that was very unsafe. There were
pools of water, electrical lines running, and no safety protections
whatsoever. These people were putting their lives at risk to build
automobiles that were going to be shipped all over the world and
probably right here in our own home States.
I know if people in my district knew the conditions that other people
were being forced to work under, they would think twice. And nobody
talks about that.
Mr. BROWN of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, one interesting thing that my friend,
the gentlewoman from California (Ms. Solis), said, people who are
supporting these trade agreements said if we do these trade agreements,
it is going to lift up living standards in Mexico and in China, and the
Chinese will be freer and democracy will break out, and all of that.
There is no evidence of that in China. In fact, it is every bit as
oppressive and repressive a regime as it was 3 or 4 years ago, or 2
years ago when the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Strickland) and the
gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Pascrell) and I worked against giving
China most favored nation trading privileges.
I want to briefly tell a story in line of what the gentlewoman from
California (Ms. Solis) told.
About 4 years ago, when Fast Track was defeated in this body, and it
has been defeated twice in the last 4 years, and will be again
tomorrow, I went down to sort of look at how NAFTA worked. NAFTA had
been in effect 4 or 5 years then. I wanted to get a picture of the
future, and to put a human face on trade and on NAFTA, and on what we
had to look forward to if we passed Fast Track.
I went to a home of a husband and wife, and it was nothing; you could
not describe it as anything else but a shack maybe 20 feet by 20 feet,
with dirt floors, no running water, no electricity.
The husband worked at General Electric, an American company, and the
wife worked at General Electric. They each made 90 cents an hour. There
were dirt floors, no running water, no electricity. When it rained, the
floor turned to mud. This was just 3 miles from the United States of
America. If they had been on our side of the border, they would be
making $15, $17 an hour, perhaps, with good health care benefits, a
retirement package, in all likelihood. But on the Mexican side of the
border they were making 90 cents an hour.
They were almost in the shadow of the factory where they worked. When
one looks at one of these shacks or neighborhoods in these so-called
colonias, we see ditches separating some of the shacks with some sort
of effluent running through them. It could have been industrial waste,
human waste, who knows. Children are playing nearby.
The American Medical Association calls the border a pool of
infectious diseases. They say it has the worst health conditions
probably in the whole western hemisphere.
These workers are working 10 hours a day, 6 days a week and cannot
afford to have any kind of a decent lifestyle. They work in these
wonderfully modern plants, in many cases; but they do not share in the
wealth they create. They create this wealth for General Electric, and
they do not share in the wealth they create.
In Ohio, in New Jersey, in California, workers help to create wealth
for their employer and share in that wealth. They get something for
that. They get a decent living standard. They can send their kids to
college, buy a car, or buy a house.
Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Pascrell).
Mr. PASCRELL. I am listening to my brothers and sisters here, and I
have listened to folks on both sides of the aisle. I was just as
opposed to this when President Clinton was there, and I am an equal
opportunity opposer right now.
I want to make very clear to everybody, and particularly to those who
stood on this floor and talked about ``Buy America,'' well, we hope
there are items that are manufactured in this country that we can buy.
We are losing our wherewithal. People earned their identity when they
came to this country and worked with their hands to produce products.
This is a critical vote tomorrow, one that between 10 and 20 of us
will decide, in the final analysis.
Every poll, and the gentleman from Ohio I think will support what I
am going to say, every poll indicates the American people do not want
to transfer the powers in the Constitution from the House of
Representatives, from the Senate, to the executive branch.
I can cite four or five different ways in which the power of the
Congress has been eroded over the past 20 years. This is not the way to
do it. So if Members want to buy American, they have to have something
to buy. There needs to be something to produce, to be produced.
Then, there are those who want to try to sway, in the final hours,
this vote. They say, What we are going to do is make sure that we have
trade adjustment assistance; or, in other words, it may not be all that
good, but what we will do is we will have some money over here; and, by
the way, it is authorized, not appropriated, not appropriated; but they
say, we will have
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some money over here to help those that are unemployed. It has not
worked in the past, and we know how many jobs have been lost under
NAFTA.
There are two things, two things, in the final hours of this great
debate, with respect to all sides here, two motivating forces of the
opposition, or those supporting giving the President this sole power
and leaving us out, regardless of what words they put in there:
stimulus and national security, stimulus and national security.
They have sent some of the first-line troops out to talk about
national security, that this is important: if the President does not
have Fast Track, we cannot defend America.
Mr. STRICKLAND. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. BROWN of Ohio. I yield to the gentleman from Ohio.
Mr. STRICKLAND. We have been talking among ourselves in a bipartisan
way about the crisis facing the steel industry in this country. The
President himself has said that maintaining a domestic steel industry
is a national security issue. I believe it is. How can we produce the
military hardware we need if we do not have steel that is produced
domestically, without having to rely on foreign steel?
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These are serious matters. And the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr.
Pascrell) mentioned transferring our authority, the House and Senate
authority, to the executive branch. What really troubles me is then the
executive branch transferring that authority to some international body
of unelected representatives, so that the American people have no
representation, and I think that is what we are facing tomorrow, is the
possibility of taking an action which can further erode the sovereignty
of this Nation. I think that is a gross mismanagement of the
constitutional responsibilities that we took upon ourselves when we
stood for an election in this House of Representatives.
Mr. PASCRELL. I might add that there is no real evidence to back up
the contention that this is an economic stimulus. In fact, if all of
the data are in, whether we are talking about the balance of trade,
which is now $435 billion, no one wants to address that. The
relationship between that balance of trade and what goes on in the
economy in the United States is profound, is profound.
There is no real evidence that points out what the President's press
secretary said on Monday. He said, the President believes that Trade
Promotion Authority is the stimulus in and of itself to keep the
economy growing.
Well, first of all, Fast Track is necessary for the administration on
two fronts, the World Trade Organization and the proposed Free Trade
Area of the Americas, FTAA. They are both long-term goals that are not
going to bring any stimulation to this economy over the next 2 or 3
years. We are only kidding ourselves.
In terms of the WTO, the World Trade Organization, disappointed that
this body has progressed to where it should be, within this Fast Track
bill there is nothing we can do about that either, nothing. The WTO can
be a body that advances the ball on such issues as labor and the
environment but only if we force the issue, and I might add, over 25
years we have forced the issue on workers rights and environmental
protections to no gain, to no gain. It has been talk, it has been
cheap, and it has been profuse, but it has not brought a change about
in our trade policies whatsoever.
The high American standards that are commonplace worldwide if we push
this issue, we know that other countries do not have the labor
standards that we have and environmental standards. We understand that.
We understand that. We are not minimizing other nations. What we are
saying is we cannot be foolish in the face of what we want to
negotiate. Let us have reciprocal trade agreements, and we have had
reciprocal trade agreements, where we, on a piece of paper, agree that
we are going to respect the rights of other nations to decide their own
fate.
Why should we keep our rates low while other nations will not allow
our goods in? And, in many cases, the people in those countries cannot
afford our goods and services, and we are sacrificing, we are
sacrificing the brothers' and sisters' jobs in this country.
Mr. BROWN of Ohio. Reclaiming my time, during the NAFTA debate in
1993, we stood in this hall, the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Strickland)
and I, for much of the summer doing discussions like this and into the
fall and into November. And when the vote was held, one of the things
the other side always said was NAFTA will create jobs. It will be an
economic stimulus, if you will. It will right our trade imbalance.
Our trade imbalance in 1994 when NAFTA took effect in January of that
year was $182 billion. That meant that we imported $182 billion more
worth of goods than we exported. The NAFTA promoters and the free
traders and the hot-shot Harvard economists and the President and the
former secretaries of state and the newspaper editors, CEOs, all said
this will get fixed.
Do my colleagues know what the trade deficit that was just announced
is? $439 billion. That is billion with a B, and that is a $250 billion
growth in trade deficit. What that means, according to President Bush,
Sr., Papa Bush, he said, every billion dollars of trade, either deficit
or surplus, represented between 19,000 and 20,000 jobs. So if you have
a billion dollar trade deficit, that means you lost 20,000 jobs to
overseas. If you have a billion dollar trade surplus, then you gained
19, 20,000 jobs. Well, a $250 billion trade deficit, it went from $250
billion worse than it was, means 5 million jobs.
Those are generally industrial jobs. They are well-paying jobs. They
are jobs that pay benefits. They are jobs where people pay into Social
Security, a fund that, because of Republican tax cuts, is now more in
jeopardy than ever before. They pay into Medicare, a fund that is in
jeopardy because of Republicans bailing out insurance companies. And
look where we are when we pass these kinds of trade policies. It is
simply not working when we have those kinds of trade deficits to get
worse and worse.
Mr. STRICKLAND. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. BROWN of Ohio. I yield to the gentleman from Ohio.
Mr. STRICKLAND. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from Ohio (Mr.
Brown) for yielding.
The gentleman's discussion of the imbalance in our trade reminds me
of a friend that I had some years ago who frequently played the Ohio
lottery. He would put 50 or more dollars every week into the Ohio
lottery, and, occasionally, he would win $10 or $20 or $50. And, guess
what, he was very free in telling everyone, oh, I hit the lottery. He
was happy that he got his $50, but he seemed to have forgotten that
week after week after week he had lost 50 or more dollars.
That is the way we talk about the trade situation here. The
administration and those who are for Fast Track will say, oh, since
NAFTA we send more agricultural products to Mexico. They do not want to
talk about the flood of products that are coming in from Mexico and
from other countries.
Mr. BROWN of Ohio. As living standards continue to go down in Mexico,
I would add.
Mr. STRICKLAND. Absolutely. They want to talk about the modest
increase in exports, but they do not want to talk about the multiple
thousands of jobs that have been lost as a result of the flooding of
imports.
As we go to the shopping malls to buy our holiday gifts, it is very,
very difficult, as my friend, the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr.
Pascrell), had said, it is very difficult, impossible to find a
television that has been constructed and built in this country. It is
very difficult to find many products that are American made, and that
is because we are being flooded by cheap imports, built in some cases
by slave labor, and in countries that are absolutely opposed to our way
of life, to our democratic institutions, and yet we continue to do
this.
It is beyond belief that we could be contemplating doing tomorrow
what some want to do.
Ms. SOLIS. Mr. Speaker, would the gentleman yield?
Mr. STRICKLAND. I absolutely would yield.
Ms. SOLIS. Mr. Speaker, just to touch briefly and say, on NAFTA and
what is happening in Mexico, there is a big discussion about the rain
forest and the decimation of the rain forest in
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Mexico and South America. There is a big issue regarding timber coming
into this country and people from the Mexican side that are saying we
are also losing our well-being and our livelihood because we are forced
by big corporations to cut down the timber and then send it here and
into other parts of the world.
We are talking about erosion of our environment. We are talking about
degradating the quality of life for Mexicans as well.
So who is winning? The big corporations, the big factories. The folks
that run those operations do not live there. They live in the ivory
tower, but they are taking and reaping some of the resources, the
natural resources that currently exist in that country.
I can tell my colleagues that Mexico still has a long way to go in
terms of providing protections for the working class people there that
are suffering every single day and not seeing any kind of return on
their work.
Mr. BROWN of Ohio. Let me shift for a moment to an issue that we have
all talked about before, and I would like the last 10 minutes or so to
discuss for a moment and that is the issue of food safety. We see in
this country 5,000 people a year die from food-borne illness, not
nearly all of them from imported fruits and vegetables, but certainly
there is a problem in our food inspection in this country, too, but
some significant amount comes from that. We see about 800,000 Americans
get sick a year. About 1/10th that many get hospitalized from food-
borne illnesses.
Yesterday, Dr. Mohammad Akhter, the top public health official in
this country, who is the executive director of the American Public
Health Association, was talking about Fast Track. And he said that
Trade Promotion Authority on which we will vote tomorrow, he said that
we can count on the fact that if we pass Trade Promotion Authority and
more trade agreements like this we will see more food come across the
border and into this country by truck and plane and train and all, more
food come into this country that is not inspected. He said we will see
more infectious disease outbreaks. We will see more illness, food-borne
illness. We will see more deaths. We will see more hospitalizations.
When we consider that when NAFTA passed, 8 percent of fruits and
vegetables in this country that we, 8 percent of the imported fruits
and vegetables in this country were inspected. Today, it is 1/10th that
number. It is .7 percent, 7/10s of 1 percent. That means for every 140
crates of broccoli that come across the border into this country, one
crate is inspected. For every 140 crates of peaches, one crate is
inspected.
I have stood at the border in Laredo, Nuevo Laredo in the Texas-
Mexican border; and I have seen the FDA, the way that they examine
broccoli when it comes in. They do not have high-tech equipment there.
They cannot get immediate reads on antimicrobial contaminants, on
pesticide residues, on anything like that. They simply take two bunches
of broccoli, slam them down in a steel crate and look for any insects
that might come out, dead or alive. If live insects come out they spray
the truckload. Other than that, the products move on.
We have not put the kind of equipment at the border to detect
antimicrobial contaminants. We have not put at the border facilities
and equipment to be able to detect pesticide residues, and we know that
there are pesticide residues on there because pesticides that are
illegal to use in the United States are still manufactured here and
sold to developing countries, put on fields and sent back into the
United States.
We are not protecting the American people. We pass Trade Promotion
Authority, according to Dr. Akhter, the top public health official in
the United States, we are asking for more food-borne illnesses, more
deaths and more hospitalizations. And we owe it to this country, to
people that go to grocery stores, to all of us that eat at our kitchen
table and go to restaurants and eat fresh produce coming in from other
countries in the world, we owe it to them to do a much better job on
this.
Mr. STRICKLAND. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. BROWN of Ohio. I yield to the gentleman from Ohio.
Mr. STRICKLAND. I believe when an American consumer goes to a
supermarket to buy food or fresh produce they have a right to know
where that food comes from, and I believe we need labelling of country
of origin. I believe American consumers, if they are given a choice,
will most of the time choose to buy products that are grown and
manufactured in our country. But the fact is they do not have a choice
because they are deprived of that necessary information, and one of the
things they would like to see done is to require that the country of
origin be made available to the consumer. Then the consumer can choose.
But without that information the consumer is deprived of the
opportunity of making the choice to buy the American-produced food or
the American-produced product.
Why should we keep that information from the American consumer? It
just does not seem reasonable to me that this House would not take
action to provide this information so that the American consumer can be
informed.
Mr. BROWN of Ohio. At the same time, we have the ability to raise
standards around the world. We have a choice tomorrow when we vote for
or against Trade Promotion Authority, so-called Fast Track, we can
continue to dismantle our standards, to weaken our truck safety laws,
to weaken our food safety laws, to lower our environmental standards,
to dismantle our safety in the workplace standards. We can vote that
way or we can cast a vote against Trade Promotion Authority and begin
to lift up food safety standards for ourselves and for the rest of the
world and begin to lift up truck safety standards, to begin to lift up
environmental standards.
Whether it is pesticides, whether it is environmental laws, we can do
better. Why should we say to an American corporation that goes to the
Mexican border on the Mexican side, if you are going to produce cars in
that country you are going to follow the same laws. In terms of what
you dump into the sewers, what you put into the air, whether you
pollute the environment, you are going to follow the same laws that you
do in the United States. How about when you go into Mexico and build
cars? Then you are going to follow the same worker safety protection
laws that you do in this country.
It is outrageous that these American companies go there. They brag
about how green they are in the United States and how well they treat
their workers. They go to a developing country. They do not treat them
well at all.
I yield to the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Pascrell).
Mr. PASCRELL. Mr. Speaker, I am going to bring up a sore subject some
of us may not like, but let me bring it up anyway, because this is it.
This is the vote tomorrow, and I am very concerned about members of my
own party, to be very honest with you, and I respect all persuasions
within my own party, regardless of where they fall on the spectrum.
I have an inner laugh when I hear our party needs to be the party of
inclusion. We need to reach out to business. Well, let me tell my
colleagues who the people are who have been at my door in the last 2
years.
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They have been owners of textile mills, they have been owners of
machine shops, they have been owners of cable companies. Owners,
entrepreneurs who hire the folks that we are all concerned about, but
we should be concerned about those who put the capital up to go into
business in the first place.
So I want to make sure to tell my brothers and sisters in my own
party that we want to be inclusive. Both parties want to try to be
inclusive in whatever way they choose. But do not come back to me and
say we are never going to get the support. And I think I have a right
to talk about this, talk turkey here tonight. That is how critical this
vote is.
We have an erosion of the Constitution of the United States. We have
had an erosion of jobs. We have had an erosion of food safety. We do
not need a further erosion. We do not wish to deny this. We do not want
to stick our heads in the sand and say things will get better. They did
not get better with NAFTA, and they are not going to get better with
this vehicle if we support it tomorrow.
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I want to thank my colleague for getting us together, the gentleman
from Ohio, because he has stayed on this case. He has not given it a
one-shot deal. The gentleman has worked on it since I have been here,
for 5 years, and I commend him.
The American people understand this better than we do; and the
American people, in every poll, have indicated they want their jobs
protected. They understand we need to trade with other countries. They
know that this is a world economy, that we live in a global village.
But the folks in my town work in Paterson, New Jersey. They love the
world. They have been fighting in wars, and they will defend us. Are we
going to defend their jobs?
And if it is textiles and machinery today, what will it be tomorrow?
That is the question that every person who is a Member of the House of
Representatives must ask themselves tomorrow before they vote.
Textiles, cable wire, machinery, leather goods today. What is tomorrow?
Or shall it be, whose ox is gored? That is not what America is all
about. America is about our being the last hope here on this floor to
protect the interests of working families. We are the last vestige of
hope.
Mr. BROWN of Ohio. I yield to the gentlewoman from California (Ms.
Solis).
Ms. SOLIS. The gentleman just hit a real soft spot for me in my
heart. My mother, who is now retired, worked for about 25 years for a
big toy maker in my district, standing on her feet most of her 20 years
there, and now has some very serious problems with her legs. That
company employed over 2,000 people in our community. They left. They
went to Mexico, then they went to China.
We now import those same toys. Many of those toys place harm upon our
children because they do not meet our consumer safety standards. And
nobody is crying out saying, wait a minute, what have we done here. We
let go of these jobs, we let go of those pensions, those health and
welfare benefits that went with those families and jobs. They went
somewhere else, yet the people making those same items do not have any
protections and maybe get 10 cents a day for producing products that
they end up sending back here that somebody buys for $20 or $30. That
is wrong.
Mr. PASCRELL. And the answer to the gentlewoman's mother is, well, if
your job is extinguished, you will have to go to another job, a
service-related job.
I ask the gentleman from Ohio, is that what has happened under NAFTA?
Have we seen those service jobs? In fact, what have we seen?
Mr. BROWN of Ohio. In Ohio, we are threatened right now with losing
3,000 jobs at LTV Steel. People say, well, the economy will change. If
they lose their jobs, they will find another job. They clearly will not
find another job close to what they are making.
Before closing, I thank very much my colleagues, the gentleman from
Ohio (Mr. Strickland), the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Pascrell),
and the gentlewoman from California (Ms. Solis), for joining me, and
also earlier the gentlewoman from Texas (Ms. Jackson-Lee) and the
gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Bonior).
Let me sum up with this: we in this country believe in the free
market system. We believe in free enterprise, but we also believe in
rules. The rules are that we have environmental protections, we have
minimum wage laws, we have worker safety protections. We should believe
in the same kinds of rules in free trade. We believe in trade, but we
think we should have similar kinds of rules.
We should have environmental standards to govern the rules of trade.
We should have worker safety standards and labor standards. It has
worked in this country to raise our standard of living so we have a
huge middle class. Those same kinds of rules could work
internationally, in the global economy, if this body tomorrow defeats
trade promotion authority and begins to write trade law that lifts
people up all over the world. I thank my colleagues for joining me
tonight.
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