[Congressional Record Volume 147, Number 124 (Friday, September 21, 2001)]
[House]
[Pages H5884-H5893]
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PROVIDING FOR CONSIDERATION OF H.R. 2926, AIR TRANSPORTATION SAFETY AND
SYSTEM STABILIZATION ACT
Mr. REYNOLDS. Mr. Speaker, by direction of the Committee on Rules, I
call up House Resolution 244 and ask for its immediate consideration.
The Clerk read the resolution, as follows:
H. Res. 244
Resolved, That upon the adoption of this resolution it
shall be in order without intervention of any point of order
to consider in the House the bill (H.R. 2926) to preserve the
continued viability of the United States air transportation
system. The bill shall be considered as read for amendment.
The previous question shall be considered as ordered on the
bill to final passage without intervening motion except: (1)
one hour of debate on the bill equally divided and controlled
by the chairman and ranking minority member of the Committee
on Transportation and Infrastructure; and (2) one motion to
recommit.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from New York (Mr. Reynolds)
is recognized for 1 hour.
Mr. REYNOLDS. Mr. Speaker, for the purpose of debate only, I yield
the customary 30 minutes to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Frost),
pending which I yield myself such time as I may consume. During
consideration of this resolution, all time yielded is for the purpose
of debate only.
Mr. Speaker, House Resolution 244 is a closed rule that provides for
the consideration of H.R. 2926, the Air Transportation Safety and
System Stabilization Act. This rule and its underlying legislation
address the impending needs of the airline industry after last week's
tragic attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.
The rule provides for 1 hour of debate to be equally divided between
the chairman and the ranking minority member of the Committee on
Transportation and Infrastructure. The rule waives all points of order
against consideration of the bill. Finally, the rule provides one
motion to recommit, with or without instructions.
Mr. Speaker, since the morning of September 11, 2001, when, as
President Bush said last night, enemies of freedom committed an act of
war against our country, our Nation has been through extraordinary and
trying times. Over the past week and a half, we have heard countless
stories of personal tragedy and selfless heroism. We have seen a Nation
come together in a steely resolve to see justice served. And we have
felt here in this Congress an unprecedented unity, rooted not just in
bipartisanship but nonpartisanship, in citizenship. And we have much
work to do.
As President Bush said, ``We face new and sudden national
challenges,'' because this war has many fronts. It was heartening for
me to see my State's great Governor, George Pataki, and New York's
outstanding Mayor, Rudy Giuliani, here in these Chambers last night. I
have long valued their friendship. But as a New Yorker, today I value
even more their leadership. Each as shown a steady hand and quiet
courage through which so many have drawn strength. Equally important,
their attendance served as a reminder that we still have work to do to
recover, rebuild and strengthen a city and a Nation.
Mr. Speaker, the ripple effect of last week's events has been felt
all over the world. In the blink of an eye, the way of life that we
have taken for granted for so long has been changed forever. Despite a
national state of shock, thousands of our fellow citizens immediately
went to work to ensure the safety and security of American citizens.
Within a matter of hours on the day of the attacks, the Federal
Aviation Administration carefully orchestrated the safe grounding of
every single airplane flying within the United States. This quick
response and cooperation from the entire airline industry ensured the
safety and well-being of countless individuals. But in the wake of the
cowardly attacks on our Nation, scheduling cutbacks and subsequent
reductions in the number of flights have hit the industry hard. Already
there have been over 80,000 airline-related layoffs, with even more
expected in the days and weeks to come.
We must remember that this is not just an industry giant that is
suffering. This is a critical component to our way of life and a vital
segment of our national economy. Our airlines move people and products
across America and throughout the world. They serve not just business
and tourism but can, quite literally, determine whether we are able to
compete in a global economy.
In my own community, which had already been lagging the national
economy, competitive air travel is continually cited as a primary
component to economic growth. By coming to the aid of the airline
industry, we will make America stronger. And in making America
stronger, we will repair and reinforce the fabric of our Nation which
was torn by cowards in last week's criminal act of war.
That is why we have a responsibility to help rebuild an industry that
has helped keep America strong.
Specifically, the legislation before us authorizes the President to
provide $10 billion in loan guarantees and an additional $5 billion in
immediate direct aid. This money will help stabilize an industry that
is desperately in need of urgent relief.
Additionally, the legislation contains language limiting the
liability for any damages arising out of the hijacking and subsequent
crashes of American Airlines Flights 11 or 77 and United Airline
Flights 93 or 175.
As President Bush stated in his address to the Nation last night,
``We will come together to promote stability and keep our airlines
flying with direct assistance during this emergency.''
America faces a daunting struggle in the times ahead. We must stand
united as a Nation. We must restore and strengthen our infrastructure
so that Americans feel safe and confident again in utilizing the best
transportation system in the world.
Mr. Speaker, as I conclude, I would like to commend the chairman of
the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure the gentleman from
Alaska (Mr. Young) and the ranking member the gentleman from Minnesota
(Mr. Oberstar) for their tireless devotion and hard work on this
important measure. I would also like to commend the Speaker and the
majority leader and the minority leader for their leadership in
crafting this legislation along with the other body and with the
administration.
I urge my colleagues to support this rule and the underlying
legislation.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. FROST. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding me the
time, and I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Last night, Mr. Speaker, we were all impressed by the President's
resolve. Today, this Congress continues the work of helping America
recover and rebuild from last week's cowardly, barbaric attack.
On September 11, terrorists murdered thousands of innocent people.
They also struck directly at the fabric of America's economy, seeking
to cripple our air transportation system. Make no mistake, there is
strong bipartisan support for stabilizing America's air transportation
system and for ensuring the victims of September 11 get the assistance
they need as they rebuild their lives. How to do those things is a
difficult and complex question, but a crucially important one. At stake
is nothing less than the strength of the economy, hundreds of thousands
of American jobs, and our values and way of life.
So Democrats and Republicans have been working overtime to craft a
bipartisan emergency package. All of those who have spent the last week
hashing out this bill, especially Leader Gephardt, Speaker Hastert, and
Ranking Member Oberstar, deserve enormous credit.
Mr. Speaker, since the Federal Government grounded air traffic last
week, the airline industry has been losing billions of dollars. As a
result, hundreds of thousands of Americans, employees of the airlines,
as well as the service and manufacturing industries around them, have
seen their livelihoods threatened. In the aftermath of last week's
attack, fewer people are flying, further hurting the industry. Make no
mistake, it is critical that we ensure the security of air travel so
people are not afraid to fly. And until the government ensures just
compensation for the victims of September 11, the airlines will not be
able to buy the insurance or borrow the capital they need to keep
operating.
Mr. Speaker, the airlines have already announced some 80,000 layoffs.
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Each airline job affects numerous additional jobs in other related
industries. Make no mistake, the airlines are part of the foundation of
our economy, affecting industries from travel and tourism to
manufacturing and electronics.
In North Texas, the area that I represent, thousands of hardworking
Americans make their living and support their families at companies
like American Airlines, Boeing and Vought Industries.
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I have talked to them and I believe this reasonable package will help
them and people like them around the country.
This package provides $5 billion to the airlines immediately to make
up for the revenue they have lost this month as a result of Tuesday's
terrorist attack and the government's order grounding their planes. It
provides $10 billion in loan guarantees for airlines that face fewer
customers, higher insurance premiums, and rising security costs in the
wake of September 11 and requires independent oversight to ensure the
government will not be bailing out past management mistakes. Finally,
it establishes the Federal Government as the insurer of last resort
against terrorist attacks and sets up a victim compensation fund.
Make no mistake, it is not a perfect bill. A lot of Democrats, myself
included, believe the Federal Government should guarantee the safety of
air travel by taking over security and ensuring security staff are
professionally trained and paid.
Additionally, Democrats believe we should do more to help the
hundreds of thousands of airline workers whose jobs are on the line. We
thought we had a bipartisan agreement to significantly expand
unemployment insurance and health coverage for those who lose their
jobs; but unfortunately, that was lost at some point late last night.
So we will keep working to get that done.
I am pleased that the Speaker has made a commitment to allow us next
week to try to help the people who are losing their jobs. I look
forward to working on it with colleagues on both sides of the aisle.
So this bill does not do everything I think it should, Mr. Speaker,
but it is a reasonable response under the circumstances; and it should
help stabilize an industry uniquely devastated by terrorists while also
ensuring the victims of September 11 will receive the compensation they
and their families need. It protects thousands of Americans' jobs and
provides thousands of Americans with justice.
For all those reasons, I urge the adoption of this rule and the
passage of the bill.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. REYNOLDS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
Minnesota (Mr. Ramstad).
Mr. RAMSTAD. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from New York (Mr.
Reynolds) for yielding me this time.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong support of the rule and the underlying
legislation.
Mr. Speaker, today was another sad day in Minnesota. Today,
Minnesota-based Northwest Airlines, the largest employer in my
congressional district, was forced to eliminate 4,500 jobs. That means
layoffs for more than 20 percent of Northwest's 23,000 employees in
Minnesota. System-wide, these job cuts affect 10,600 Northwest workers.
Before last week's terrorist attacks, Northwest employed 53,000 people.
Because the Federal Government had no choice but to shut down the
skies last week as an act of national defense, all the carriers I
believe deserve compensation. We simply cannot let the airlines fail.
In the strongest terms possible, I support the legislation before us,
providing a $15 billion plan to bolster this struggling airline
industry. It is clearly the right thing to do, and we need to do it
now.
Mr. Speaker, America needs this airline assistance package which
includes $5 billion in direct aid and $10 billion in loan guarantees so
the imperiled airlines can continue flying and avoid bankruptcy. Every
1,000 layoffs by Northwest Airlines in Minnesota will result in a $30
million payroll cut. So failure by Congress to pass this critical
relief package for the airlines would be absolutely devastating to our
economy as well as our airline employees and their families and
hundreds of thousands of airline passengers nationally.
Mr. Speaker, without this immediate financial support from the
Federal Government, the future of aviation in America would be severely
threatened. Let us pass this important legislation today without
further delay.
I deeply appreciate the leadership on this package by the gentleman
from Minnesota (Mr. Oberstar), my friend and colleague, as well as the
gentleman from Florida (Mr. Young); and I urge all Members to support
this very critical rule and legislation. The employees of Northwest
Airlines and the people of Minnesota are both grateful for your
bipartisan support.
Mr. FROST. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from
Florida (Mr. Hastings), a member of the Committee on Rules.
Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from
Texas (Mr. Frost), the distinguished ranking member, my friend, for
yielding me this time; and I rise to oppose the rule.
I consider the airline industry to be the linchpin of our way of life
in America. It is the fuel that provides the engine for our economy
here and worldwide. A safe, secure, stable industry is all of our
objectives as policymakers.
On Tuesday, airlines were grounded as a matter of defense. On
Wednesday, workers living from paycheck to paycheck were driven into
the ground. We have a responsibility in a bipartisan manner to protect
airplanes and to protect people.
I can assure my colleagues that all of us know that in the past week
nearly 100,000 airline employees have been laid off as a result of the
terrorist attacks. In the coming days, weeks, and months it is almost
certain that the number of layoffs in the airline industry, as well as
the industries directly and indirectly affected by airline travel, will
drastically increase by thousands.
Analysts point out that the airline industry has a high multiplier
effect. For every 100 jobs created by the airline industry, an
additional 250 jobs are created by those industries who service the
airline. In turn, as many as 250,000 workers may be on the brink of
losing their jobs as a result of the layoffs of just the past week.
The human dimension means domestic violence will increase. It means
that crime will increase. It means that child abuse will increase. I
suffer, as does every Member of this House, with every victim; and we
should restore them. I, for one, believe we should rebuild the World
Trade Center; and I think we have some responsibility to build the
Pentagon immediately. And we should open National Airport.
The Air Transportation System Stabilization Act, as introduced, does
very little to provide relief to the workers who already have been or
shortly will be displaced as a result of the terrorist attacks. The
amendment that I offered in the Committee on Rules today would have
provided needed relief to these hardworking Americans while at the same
time helping to stimulate our economy.
What I want to know from the Members is why are we going home when we
have the responsibility not only to the airline but we have a
responsibility to extend unemployment benefits for those who work for
the airline?
Why are we going home, when we could stay here tomorrow, Sunday, and
Monday and extend job training benefits for people we know will lose
their job, or provide more weeks of federally subsidized consolidated
omnibus budget reconciliation premiums, and provide optional temporary
Medicaid coverage for those workers without COBRA?
I think we should defeat this rule. We should protect the airline
industry and the workers. We should do it all and do it now.
Mr. REYNOLDS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
Florida (Mr. Shaw.)
Mr. SHAW. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding me time.
Mr. Speaker, I must say that I agree very much with what my friend
and colleague the gentleman from Florida just said, except his
conclusion is wrong. We must first save the airlines. That is what is
of utmost importance.
I listened to the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Obey) speaking on his
concern about some of the obscene salaries
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that are continued to be paid while these airlines continue to
hemorrhage red ink. I think the people who are considering the loans
that we are being asked to guarantee should look very carefully at top
executive salaries and see that these salaries should be based upon
performance, and performance should be based upon, in part at least,
the bottom line. When these airlines are continuing to lose money, the
salaries at the top should not be in the figures that they are today.
But this is for the loan people to figure out, and I hope that they do
so.
But thinking of this country, a collapse of the airline industry all
across this country would be devastating. You talk about lost jobs?
Talking to some of the executives in my own district about what is
happening to the car rental agencies, what is happening to the hotels,
what is happening to the theme parks, what is happening to the
restaurants, and all of the people who work in those businesses, it is
absolutely time that we pass this rule and that we pass this bill.
It may only be the first step, but it is so important that we act
tonight, and that we send this message to Wall Street, that the
American United States Congress is behind the American airline
industry, that we understand the problem, and that we are not going to
let the airlines fail, we are not going to let our economy fail.
Tonight we must pass this rule, we must pass this bill, and we must
move on.
Mr. FROST. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentlewoman from
Texas (Ms. Jackson-Lee).
(Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas asked and was given permission to revise
and extend her remarks.)
Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas. Mr. Speaker, I thank the distinguished
gentleman for yielding me time.
Mr. Speaker, I thank the chairman of the Committee on Rules and the
ranking member as well. I thank the Speaker, the gentleman from
Illinois (Mr. Hastert) and our leader, the gentleman from Missouri (Mr.
Gephardt).
Last evening, the President told America that the hour is coming. He
indicated to us as a unified Nation that we would not tire or falter or
fail. In that spirit, last week I voted aye for America's response. I
voted aye for the $40 billion to respond to the horrific tragedy.
Today I am equally concerned about avoiding bankrupt airlines and
losing thousands of jobs. I am concerned. Let me say to Linda, who
wrote me from my district, along with hundreds of other letters, that I
am aware that Continental Airlines has single mothers supporting
families and they have invested the last several years to Continental.
It would be difficult, as she said, for them to find jobs.
I am equally aware that Captain Kevin B. Lawson may be willingly
misinterpreting my position. He needs to pay attention to his Air
Pilots Association who want comprehensive legislation. We are concerned
about airlines and the airline industry, but we are equally concerned
about people and jobs.
Therefore, I would have hoped that this Congress could have looked to
solve the problem of jobs. I supported the Hastings amendment, which
extended unemployment benefits, provided unemployment insurance
benefits, extended job training, and provided COBRA extensions for
health care. Who of the hundreds of persons that have written me from
the airline would be against that?
I also support helping the airport concessionaires. They are in
desperate need. I want an SBA disaster declaration to help them. And I
want to federalize the security of airlines, so Americans can get back
on the airlines quickly and start flying, going to Hawaii and Las Vegas
and taking their children back to college and enjoying life again.
Mr. Speaker, I believe we can do more and reach to higher angels. I
believe it is important to have a comprehensive package, and that is
why I have raised my voice to fight for those who cannot fight for
themselves.
I want to support the airline industry and those employees, too! I
want to keep the millions of existing jobs. But, do you know what, Mr.
Speaker? When I walk through the airports, I talk to the skycaps, I
talk to the cleaning people. Those are the ones that pat Congresswoman
Sheila Jackson-Lee on the back, and ask for help, not a hand-out.
I promised them I would work on their behalf, and I want a commitment
from this Congress today that we are not going to leave here today
without providing assistance for these people who are also affected,
hotel workers, skycaps, cleaning people, contract people, people who
are also innocent of the events of September 11, 2001.
I believe that we have to work with this rule and work with this
legislation. But my heart is broken. Why? Because we could have done
this in a more comprehensive manner. What do I say to the skycaps of 20
and 30 years that get $2 an hour? We can do better. The hour is coming.
We can vote aye on a plan that will help everyone, if not today--we
must do this in the coming days.
Mr. REYNOLDS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
North Carolina (Mr. Hayes), who has spent countless hours in committee
hearings on this very subject.
Mr. HAYES. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding me time,
and I thank the ranking member for conducting this debate in a very
professional and proper way.
Mr. Speaker, I have sat through every minute of hearings on airline
financial stability and on security. I have been there for every
minute. Members have raised relevant points, some more relevant than
others, but here tonight we are faced with doing something that is
crucial to our economy and to the airlines, which are a building log of
that economy.
Last Friday night, it was brought to our attention by the gentleman
from Minnesota (Mr. Oberstar) and the gentleman from Alaska (Mr. Young)
that the markets would open on Monday and we needed to send a strong
message to Wall Street and the financial community that we would be
there for this important part of our commerce.
That did not happen. We spent a week talking about very important
things. Let me assure my colleagues, many of whom I have spoken to
individually, and thank the gentleman from Missouri (Mr. Gephardt), the
gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Obey), and the gentleman from Texas (Mr.
Frost) for their wonderful cooperation; but here we are a week later.
We could have been doing the things that people are raising now.
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Please put this discussion aside. Take this building block, put it in
place, then we will address in time, as everyone has promised and
everyone unanimously wants to do, the other issues, some of which are
discovered, many of which are yet to be discovered. Let us pass this
rule and this bill.
Mr. FROST. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Texas
(Mr. Lampson).
Mr. LAMPSON. Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the gentleman for yielding me
the time.
Mr. Speaker, these are unique and extraordinary times. Some of the
steps that we take are not perfect. This is not a perfect piece of
legislation. If the events of last Tuesday are any indication, this is
not a perfect world.
I support this assistance bill because I believe it is necessary to
maintain our transportation and aviation infrastructure. Passing this
legislation does not absolve Congress from moving forward with air
travel safety and dislocated worker assistance. We must do both as soon
as possible. There are other industries that have been and will be
effected by the events of September 11, 2001. We must look at these
issues in a broader context.
This financial emergency assistance package will ensure the survival
of a vital engine to our economy, the airline industry. We cannot
afford to wait. By getting the aviation industry back on track, we will
have a downstream effect that will provide a boost to all of the
related industries that have been hit hard by this tragedy: the car
rental agencies, travel agents, tourism, restaurants, theme parks,
cruise lines and the list goes on and on and it even multiplies.
By no means does passing this bill today end our work. This is only
the first step. We must also address safety and displaced-worker
protections immediately.
It is essential that we address safety. We need to restore confidence
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flying public. No financial aid package will bring passengers back to
the planes unless they feel safe. Passengers need to feel sure, or they
will indeed stay home.
I strongly believe that a worker-relief package must be addressed by
this body as soon as possible. We must provide dislocated worker
protections and extended health care coverage, not only for airline
workers, but all workers affected by this tragedy; or, again, the costs
will multiply. But I do believe that these issues should be addressed
in a separate package. This is not the time to try to address every
issue in one bill.
These are not ordinary times. Congress is being called on to do
extraordinary things, and I urge my colleagues to support this
legislation today.
Mr. REYNOLDS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman
from South Dakota (Mr. Thune).
Mr. THUNE. Mr. Speaker, let me say that safety is job one, which is
why the airlines, when they were grounded last week, were given a whole
set of new rules and regulations by which to live. Anybody who thinks
that security is not being taken seriously in this country ought to go
to one of the airports, because we have a whole new list of things that
we are dealing with that will keep our airports more safe and secure.
Mr. Speaker, I am one who believes in an expanded role for the
Federal Government in airport and airline security, and that discussion
and debate is under way about how best to do that.
In the meantime, Mr. Speaker, the terrorist attacks of September 11
have sent the entire airline industry into an economic crisis with
bankruptcy just a few weeks away for the entire industry. These
desperate times require action. I believe it is Congress'
responsibility to act.
As a fiscal conservative, I am extremely cautious when it comes to
spending the money of South Dakotans and all Americans. However, our
country has been the victim of a despicable act of terrorism that has
ricocheted throughout our entire economy. No business could have
foreseen the acts of September 11. In this time of open conflict, it is
our responsibility to preserve the American aviation industry.
Mr. Speaker, in South Dakota where air service is provided by small
carriers to small airports, we have been hit especially hard. We have
already seen carriers curtail air service to some of our communities.
However, this legislation contains specific provisions to help small
communities in rural States like South Dakota.
I appreciate the leaders on both sides working with me to include
language that gives the Secretary of Transportation the authority to
ensure that airplane service to small communities continues without
interruption. It also includes a $55 million increase in the amount of
money authorized under the Essential Air Service Program. This means
that small communities across our Nation will have enhanced access to
much-needed essential air service funding.
I am pleased that Congress has chosen to make air service a priority
for our Nation. I am pleased this legislation contains language to
ensure that communities across the country will maintain the air
service they have been accustomed to.
Mr. Speaker, I would conclude by saying I look forward to working
with the administration, the carriers and the communities to preserve
air service, and with the help of this legislation, make sure that
those small communities across South Dakota and across this country
continue to have the air service they currently have and that it is
safe and secure for the future of America.
Mr. FROST. Mr. Speaker, I yield such time as he may consume to the
gentleman from Texas (Mr. Stenholm).
(Mr. STENHOLM asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
Mr. STENHOLM. Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of this rule and the
legislation which it permits to be taken up later tonight.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of this legislation, which will
provide necessary assistance to our airlines and protect this sector of
our Nation's infrastructure.
We must resolve ourselves to restore the financial stability of our
airlines--for we do this not for the sake of the airlines alone, but
for the sake of the millions of air travelers.
Even with this assistance, Americans still will be asked to
sacrifice, for our country has changed. And yet we know that our
country has faced and conquered so many other challenges in its proud
history and we will survive this as well.
Thousands of workers in the travel industry have already lost or will
lose their jobs, and citizens will be impacted by reduced options for
air travel.
My district has already felt the brunt of these airline cutbacks.
Continental Express will discontinue service to Abilene and San Angelo
Airports beginning October 1, and the sole remaining carrier, American
Eagle, has announced that it will reduce the number of daily flights to
Dallas-Fort Worth.
I commend Chairman Young and Ranking Member Oberstar for including
language in this bill to protect rural communities and small airports.
Each community that had service prior to September 11 must be assured
of continuing air service, and I encourage Secretary Mineta to take
steps to ensure this.
It is also important for the airlines to realize that now is not the
time to unreasonably raise fares on passengers--especially in rural
areas that are served by only one or two carriers. We must make sure
that airfare remains reasonable and affordable for all Americans.
We must make our Nation's sky safe again, by increasing security at
our airports and on the airplanes themselves, but tonight by ensuring
the financial security of the airlines.
This bill is not perfect. In fact there are many changes I would have
made. But this bill is the best we can do tonight.
Mr. FROST. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
Maryland (Mr. Wynn).
Mr. WYNN. Mr. Speaker, our Nation's airlines do need our help. They
are indeed in a crisis situation. I know in my own State of Maryland,
U.S. Airways, which has a major economic impact, is in real trouble.
I think there is a large consensus that we ought to help them and we
ought to provide the $15 billion that they will need to keep flying.
But there is another question that needs to be asked that the American
people need to keep at the forefront of their minds during these grim
times, and that is simply this: What about the workers? What about the
workers?
Make no mistake. Even with this $15 billion infusion, there will
still be layoffs; there will still be dislocation. Many of us have
said, in this bill we ought to deal with those problems. We ought to
deal with the problem of extending unemployment compensation; we ought
to deal with the problem of extending health care benefits; we ought to
deal with the problem of job retraining.
I believe in balance and fairness. We ought to help the industry; we
ought to give the $15 billion. But it is not fair to ignore the
employees, the workers, the clerks, the baggage handlers, the cooks,
the mechanics, the people that keep the airplanes flying and say, well
you wait until later. That seems to be the approach of some in this
body that we will take care of that later. They have made a commitment
that they will indeed address the workers' concerns. I sincerely hope
that they will keep that commitment, and I hope the American people
will take them to task; that in the weeks to come, we will, in fact, on
the floor of this House deal with the question of protecting our
dislocated workers, because they are the people who truly keep America
flying.
Mr. REYNOLDS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman
from Indiana (Mr. Buyer).
Mr. BUYER. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding me this
time.
Mr. Speaker, this is a bill that recently passed in the other body 96
to one. Ninety-six to one. I had to come to the floor because I could
not believe the rhetoric that I am hearing, the passion. I understand
the song that is being sung, but let us remember what is occurring here
at the moment. An industry is hemorrhaging. Hemorrhaging. Folks, let us
calm down for a moment here.
When you look into a pond and it is nice and glassy on a calm,
windless day and you take a rock and you throw it into a pond, sure you
see the splash; but then you have the ripples that go far out
infinitum. We are trying to deal with those ripples and bring calm to
it before it hits the shores. Here is an industry that is approaching
100,000 layoffs. We cannot give in to the terrorists. We have to have
this immediate infusion.
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I have great respect for the leaders of both parties that negotiated
this. Let us bring calm here also to our words.
This needs to pass. Yes, it is an economic stabilization. Yes, we
have to address security assurances. Yes, we have to address liability.
There is plenty of work still yet for us to do.
I want to compliment the Governor of Indiana, Frank O'Bannon, a
Democrat governor. He sent a letter to me and said, ``I would like to
urge you to support the enactment of the economic assistance for our
domestic airline industry as quickly as possible. As you well know, the
tragic hijackings of the four commercial jets last week resulted in the
first-ever complete shutdown of our air traffic system. This closure
itself cost the airline industry hundreds of millions of dollars each
day. The continued closure of Reagan Washington National Airport,
heightened security measures, reduced passenger demand due to concerns
about air safety pose significant obstacles to recovery. Without
Federal assistance, including grants and loans, many airlines will go
bankrupt.''
I want to compliment Democrat Governor Frank O'Bannon.
Republicans and Democrats are unified. We are unified and there is
unity to do this measure, so please let us be very cautious about the
rhetoric and the tone that is being used here on this floor, and let us
continue our work in a bipartisan fashion on behalf of the American
people.
Mr. FROST. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from New
York (Mr. Hinchey).
Mr. HINCHEY. Mr. Speaker, everyone in this House wants to be sure
that we have a sound airline industry and that it is functioning
properly for the American people. But this bill does not do enough in
too many areas and in some areas, it does what it does in the wrong
way.
The bill, first of all, provides $5 billion in outright grants to the
airline industry. The September 21 report of the Democratic staff of
the Joint Economic Committee estimates that because of the shutdown,
the airline industry in the United States has lost between $360 million
and $1 billion, and this bill gives them $5 billion in outright grants
and another many billions of dollars and more in loan guarantees follow
upon that.
If we want people to get back into airlines, the way to do that is to
increase the confidence of the American people in the airline industry.
The way to do that is to put safety procedures in place, the kind of
safety procedures that the airline industry has resisted for decades,
since deregulation. These people who run these airlines are using the
cover of crisis for financial gain, and that is what is happening in
the context of this bill. No safety procedures, no increases in safety
procedures, no additional confidence on the part of the American
people.
If we want people back in the airlines, we have to make them safe.
Why are we not requiring the airlines to do the kinds of things that
will produce confidence in the people who ride on these airlines? Where
is that $5 billion going? What is it going to be used for when the
airlines have only lost less than $1 billion as a result of the
shutdown.
Then, of course, there is the issue of the people who work for the
airlines who are getting absolutely nothing out of this particular
piece of legislation.
Airline executives making between $5 million and $35 million a year,
at a time when the economy has been at its best in modern history, at a
time when more people are flying, have nevertheless been able to run
several of these airline companies into the ground, and now we are
rewarding them with additional billions of dollars.
Mr. REYNOLDS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from
Arizona (Mr. Flake).
Mr. FLAKE. Mr. Speaker, I have one piece of concern about the
legislation that I wanted to air here. The bailout, or the $5 billion
portion, is given on the basis of formula, which is fine, as it should
be. However, the next portion, the loan guarantees, will be distributed
based not on a formula, but where a governmental entity or a group of
individuals will simply pick winners and losers: you have more cash
flow than the other guy. You have a bigger asset base than the other
guy. You win; you lose.
I hope that as this goes forward, if this legislation passes, that we
are vigilant here in ensuring that those who dole out that money do so
in an equitable basis and do not try to pick winners and losers in the
economy.
Mr. FROST. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentlewoman from
California (Ms. Pelosi).
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Ms. PELOSI. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding time to
me.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to the rule. At a time when the
American people expect, more than ever expect and truly deserve a full
discussion of our response to our national tragedy, the Committee on
Rules has presented us with a closed rule.
At a time when the collateral damage to workers associated with the
airline industry can run up to 100,000 layoffs, we are not even allowed
to discuss amendments to help them. At a time when the airline industry
has placed the burden of safety on the travelers with 3-hour waits
before scheduled takeoffs, and present us with a bill which barely
mentions safety, a bailout of the airline industry will only be a
temporary fix if we do not get passengers back on the flights.
The airlines must do a better job of facilitating travel, and this
Congress must do a better job for the thousands who are losing their
jobs. To do anything less while we are considering a $15 billion
bailout is a national disgrace. I urge my colleagues to oppose this
rule.
Mr. REYNOLDS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
Arizona (Mr. Shadegg).
(Mr. SHADEGG asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
Mr. SHADEGG. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding time to
me.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of this rule and of the underlying
bill. A week ago tonight, actually early in the wee hours of Saturday
morning, I stood on this floor and urged my colleagues to pass the bill
that was before us then.
At that time, I discussed the fact that the airline industry had been
massively attacked, and that it was suffering, and if we did not act,
we would bring financial consequences to the airline industry, and
people would lose their jobs. In point of fact, sadly, that prediction
turns out to be true. We now know of some 100,000 layoffs in the
industry. How many of those layoffs would not have occurred if we had
been able to send the right signal last week?
Our enemies do not seek just to destroy buildings, such as the
Pentagon and the World Trade Center, they seek to destroy our economy.
We cannot let that happen. This bill is a piece of intensely negotiated
legislation on which there are fair compromises on each side. Many of
my colleagues have concerns about the liability provisions, but as a
result of the compromise which has occurred in the last several hours,
in the last several days, those compromises are fair.
There is a claims procedure under which the victims of this atrocious
act will be able to get relief without having to rely on an attorney,
and that is a good move. They should not be victimized again by having
to pay a huge contingency fee in order to recover.
The danger in this bill, however, lies in the ability of the Airline
Stabilization Board to allocate the monies which are allocated for loan
guarantees. Those funds are absolutely critical to keep our airlines in
the air.
Sadly, under the wording of this bill, that board can pick winners
and losers. We do not need the government picking winners and losers.
It is vitally important that we ensure that the airlines of America,
not just the big carriers who have lots of capital, who have an old
fleet with a lot of equity in it that can stay in the air, but it is
vitally important that we keep the small carriers, the cost-sensitive,
low-priced carriers, in the air. They are much less able to qualify for
those loans.
This legislation should say, ``If you were flying on September 10, we
are not going to let the act of these terrorists destroy you and keep
you from flying, because we understand that will put your employees out
of work.''
I urge my colleagues to make sure that we should not let the
stabilization board pick winners and losers and hurt the employees of
the small airlines while picking winners for the employees of the
bigger airlines.
Mr. FROST. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
Michigan (Mr. Stupak).
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Mr. STUPAK. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding time to
me.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to the rule. It is amazing, the
last speaker said those airlines that were flying on September 10
should continue flying. That is exactly the amendment I offered in the
Committee on Rules today, which the Committee on Rules rejected.
Because what we have found, Mr. Speaker, is the airline industry is
asking for billions of dollars of taxpayers' money, and yet they are
telling some of us in certain parts of this country, we are no longer
going to service your area.
If you are taking the taxpayers' money and if you are flying and
doing well before September 11, 2001, why are they now cutting out
service to areas like Chattanooga; Escanaba, Michigan; and the rest of
this country? They are using the terrorist attack as an excuse to get
out of certain marketplaces.
The intent of my amendment was not to minimize or aggravate the
losses incurred by the airline industry, but a sense of fairness. If
they can service our areas before the terrorist attack and take
billions of dollars from us, they should at least be able to continue
to service our area.
That was our amendment, straight up, forward. That is all we wanted.
It was to ensure that areas do not get dropped by airline carriers in a
rush to save money during this time. It is a real concern that the
carriers will use this emergency as an excuse to cut routes, and,
indeed, they already have.
The amendment states, ``Any carrier who drops service within the next
2 years to an airport they served prior to September 11 will not be
eligible for funding under the airline bailout bill.'' If a carrier
stops providing air transportation to an airport, then the carrier must
repay the United States the amount of money that they received.
Billions of dollars in aid should not be given to private industry
without some promises in return. Our communities are the heart and soul
of America, and should not suffer undue hardship as a result of this
tragedy. We cannot leave this to the airlines' discretion. They have
already spoken. They have spoken loudly. They will cut service in some
parts of this country.
Mr. REYNOLDS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from New
York (Mr. Grucci).
Mr. GRUCCI. Mr. Speaker, I thank my distinguished friend, the
gentleman from New York, for yielding time to me. I thank all those in
the House here tonight, and all those working on this bill.
About a week ago, when I saw what will forever be known as Ground
Zero in New York, my heart ached. My heart ached for those who were
afflicted with the pain and suffering, and for those who were going
through the rubble and trying to find human life that was left.
Now my heart aches for more Americans, people who are out of work,
people who are affected, small business owners across this country,
because the airline industry is not up and running. It is the people
who live in my district who work there as well. I want to help them. I
will do all that I can to do that. But before we can put them back to
work, we have to put the airlines back in the air. We need to do all we
can to make sure that this country continues to move forward.
We are going to do what we need to do. I heard the President say
that; that not only are we going to rebuild New York and Washington,
but we are going to rebuild our economy. That is going to be one brick
at a time. As we move forward, we are going to take piece by piece, and
this piece is to help put the airline industry back in solvency so we
can go forward and put people back to work.
Mr. FROST. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentlewoman from
Florida (Ms. Brown).
(Ms. BROWN of Florida asked and was given permission to revise and
extend her remarks.)
Ms. BROWN of Florida. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding
time to me.
First of all, let me say that everybody in this House feels the pain
of what is going on in the country, and certainly we all want to be
supportive. I personally sat through the testimony of the CEOs in the
Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure. I know that our
carriers need some relief.
But I refuse to vote for a bill that was never debated in committee,
and does absolutely nothing for the thousands of employees and
businesses that rely on the airline carriers for survival. We are
handing over $5 billion, a blank check, to the airline CEOs, and over
$10 billion in loan guarantees, with no questions asked; but not one
single dime for the over 100,000 employees who the airline carriers are
laying off.
How can we go back to the district and tell those hardworking men and
women that we were not able to provide a dime for them, but yet we are
giving the CEOs $5 billion? Mr. Speaker, the airline carriers are
taking advantage of us. We are being chumps.
Mr. REYNOLDS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from
Texas (Mr. Brady).
Mr. BRADY of Texas. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding
time to me, and I thank him for his leadership on this issue.
Mr. Speaker, Congress is right to act because America's air
transportation system is as critical to our economy as our highways,
our railroads, and our seaports. This is important locally to me
because the 20,000 Continental Airlines furloughs are causing a great
deal of hardship for our families in our communities. Without swift
action from Congress, many more of our jobs and our businesses will
suffer greatly, and so will our chances for recovering from this
economic strain, and as we work to open new markets for Texas and for
the United States.
These are extraordinary times, and in the end, whatever concerns we
may have, we simply cannot sit idle and give terrorists the
satisfaction of toppling America's economy as they did the Twin Towers.
This is crucial legislation tonight, now, for America.
Mr. FROST. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
Massachusetts (Mr. Olver).
Mr. OLVER. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding time to
me.
Mr. Speaker, this bill today aids the airline companies that were
devastated by the terrorism of September 11: United, American, Delta,
Northwest, and U.S. Air, and the others who on average have announced a
20 to 25 percent reduction in employees, and cutting 25 percent, on
average, of routes. By all accounts, they need the aid.
But the airline industry is not solely these largest of the airline
corporations. This bill provides no parallel aid for the nearly 100,000
direct employees of those companies who are losing their jobs, and this
bill does not even contemplate the spin-off losses of jobs in the
travel/tourism industry, the hotels and resorts, the restaurants, and
travel services. That is a severe inequity.
Beyond that, this bill does absolutely nothing to assure the American
public that they can travel safely in the new world that has followed
September 11. Yesterday, the joint subcommittees of the Committee of
Appropriations, the joint Senate and House subcommittees, held a
hearing and heard powerful testimony from the FAA, the GAO, the IG,
which documented the utterly porous security systems operated by the
airlines. They have found that the screeners frequently fail to detect
guns, knives, and other threats; that they have been able to repeatedly
to breach the secure areas in a large percentage of the airports, and
once they had breached the secure areas, could enter easily aboard
aircraft.
Mr. Speaker, why is it that these breaches of security systems are so
easy? The IG and the GAO cite low wages and low benefits of the
employees, little or no training, weak and no criminal investigations
of the screeners, no uniform standards for screening. In other words,
they are largely dead-end jobs providing security. We must come back to
this bill, even though I am going to support the legislation.
Mr. REYNOLDS. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
Ohio (Mr. Traficant).
(Mr. TRAFICANT asked and was given permission to revise and extend
his remarks.)
Mr. TRAFICANT. Mr. Speaker, the terrorists not only wanted to kill
Americans, the terrorists wanted to destroy the great symbols of
America's freedom: New York, the Trade Center, the Pentagon. If not for
those brave Americans, that plane in Pennsylvania would have probably
visited this Capitol.
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I do not think there is anybody who has fought more for jobs in this
Congress than I have. Failure to pass this bill will do something that
I think was unintended by the terrorists. It will give them a victory
because our aviation industry shutdown kills our economy, kills more
jobs, and destroys and wrecks the stability of our freedom.
This is not a perfect bill, but we have the word of the Speaker, the
minority leader, that they will revisit this issue and this bill will
be perfected. But failure to pass this bill gives these terrorists a
victory that they never envisioned. They wanted a symbolic victory. We
are giving them an absolute economic victory. That cannot occur, it
should not occur, and Congress should do one other thing: not divide
our resolve. That is the real goal of these terrorists.
Stay together, pass the rule, pass the bill, and let us fix that as
we go on, as we remedy this great disaster.
Mr. FROST. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentlewoman from
Illinois (Ms. Schakowsky).
(Ms. SCHAKOWSKY asked and was given permission to revise and extend
her remarks.)
Ms. SCHAKOWSKY. Mr. Speaker, every single Member of this body and
every person in this country understands fully that a functioning
airline industry is vital to the functioning of our country. Yet, I
stand in opposition to this legislation. Why? Because, remarkably, this
bill completely ignores the heroes in the airline industry who were and
are most deeply and personally affected by the September 11 atrocities,
the thousands of everyday airline workers who are now losing their jobs
as a result of the September 11 attack.
Members can look in every line and in every page of this bill and we
will not find a single mention of them. Those airline executives who
earn up to $35 million a year, they will find a whole section here, but
not a word about the up to 100,000 industry workers who will lose their
jobs even if we pass this bill.
An angry and hurt Association of Flight Attendants said, ``It is sad
how quickly those who sacrificed to make our country great, even in
these times of tragedy, get left out when corporations go asking for
taxpayer money.''
This bill says nothing about unemployment benefits, job training, and
health benefits. I stand here tonight ready to help the airline
industry, but not just a part of it. Those who say they will help
workers next week or the week after, have to be asked: Why not tonight?
If we add them to the bill, I would gladly and proudly vote yes.
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Mr. REYNOLDS. Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. FROST. Mr. Speaker, I yield such time as he may consume to the
gentleman from New Mexico (Mr. Udall).
(Mr. UDALL of New Mexico asked and was given permission to revise and
extend his remarks.)
Mr. UDALL of New Mexico. Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to stay
here and address these issues: the worker employment issues and the
safety issues and security issues we have talked about.
There is no doubt that the airline industry is in need of assistance.
This industry is vital to our nation's economic strength, and its
current struggles have far-reaching implications for all segments of
American society. Therefore, at this time of national emergency, I
agree that we should help stabilize this important cog in the American
economic wheel. However, I do not believe that we should simply provide
a ``bailout'' bill for airline companies at the expense of American
taxpayers.
As we consider the amount of assistance we are providing, we also
need to ensure that there are sufficient provisions to assist everyone
who has been affected by this tragedy. First, we must compensate the
victims of the September 11th attack. Second, we need to take steps to
prevent future tragedies. Third, we need to help the airline industry,
but we also must remember those hard working airline employees who have
lost their jobs. Finally, we need to provide support for smaller
airports throughout the country. In providing assistance to the
beleaguered industry, we must be mindful of these objectives.
Unfortunately, Mr. Speaker, I have reservations about whether or not
this bill is mindful of those objectives. I have serious concerns about
the lack of employee assistance provisions in this legislation and
believe that we, the United States Congress, should be working through
the weekend to ensure that those airline employees who need our help
receive assistance as soon as possible. I am hopeful that the majority
will keep its commitment to move additional legislation to help working
families next week.
Nevertheless, Mr. Speaker, despite my reservations about this
legislation, I do recognize that it is an important start in a time of
great national crisis and will therefore support its passage. I believe
that we should provide assistance to the airline industry, but believe
it should be done responsibly. The American people demand it, and the
American people deserve it.
Mr. FROST. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from New
York (Mr. Engel).
Mr. ENGEL. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding me this
time.
Mr. Speaker, I am here in the Chamber tonight with a heavy heart. I
will support this bill reluctantly, but I will oppose the rule. And I
will oppose it because of the reasons that so many of my colleagues
have given.
I am very disappointed that there is no relief for workers for the
airline industry. There is no job training, there is no unemployment
compensation, there is no health benefits protection to laid-off
workers. None of that is in the bill. I know we are going to revisit it
next week, and I hope we get a bill then, but it should be in the bill
tonight.
Also, we all know that federalizing the security workers that are by
the x-ray machines is something that we are going to have to do. Why
are we not addressing this issue in the bill tonight? The fat cats, the
heads of the airline industry, are guaranteed and locked in for
millions, but American workers are not given the right time of day.
We ought to stay here and we ought to perfect the bill. That is why I
am going to oppose this rule, because we should be having amendments
that will deal with these issues that we are talking about. What could
be more important than helping American workers? So I will support the
bill, but I will oppose the rule. The airline industry needs to be
helped, but we should be doing everything tonight.
Mr. REYNOLDS. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
As I have been working on seeing this rule come to the floor for some
24 hours, I cannot help but reflect that the goal I hope to achieve by
helping to invest some of America into our airlines is to protect those
jobs that I have heard so much discussion about, to stop the layoffs,
to stop the slowdowns of our economy, not just for the employees of the
airlines that we have made reference to today but for all of America
who is dependent on those airlines being in the air.
We are now in a global economy. We are dependent on the strength of
the airline industry to make America work strong. And when I look at
the investment of taxpayer dollars into our airlines, I am thinking
about jobs and the economy first. I am thinking about not only the
airline jobs, which are so important, but I am thinking about the jobs
in my community and across America that people are working in.
Americans working day in and day out are dependent on our airlines,
whether they use them in their work or they are dependent on the goods
and services that those airlines bring about in the reality of their
jobs.
We are looking today to move forward with an opportunity for saving
jobs, creating jobs, and addressing the jobs so dependent on our
airlines. We have heard speeches made in debate today regarding the
workers themselves, the airlines, men and women working across America
in the tourism industry. That is why I think we need to move ahead and
pass this rule so that we can get America working strong, able to
depend upon the airline industry, which is so vitally important.
I think we have seen a recognition of that in the last rule vote. I
think we will see that in this vote as we move forward to debate the
bill. This legislation is about preserving and growing jobs in the
airline industry, which means so much to this country.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. FROST. Mr. Speaker, I would inquire of the time remaining on each
side.
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Thornberry). The gentleman from New York
(Mr. Reynolds) has 5 minutes remaining, and the gentleman
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from Texas (Mr. Frost) has 5\1/2\ minutes remaining.
Mr. FROST. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentlewoman from
California (Ms. Sanchez).
Ms. SANCHEZ. Mr. Speaker, I thank the ranking minority member of the
Committee on Rules for yielding me this time.
Mr. Speaker, there is no question that we must help the airline
industry. They are in a real danger of financial collapse. However, I
have real concerns with the way that we are going about giving the
airline industry financial assistance. We have left the workers behind
in this bill, the workers who are or in so many cases were the heart
and the soul of the very industry we may be bailing out this evening.
Despite the efforts over the last several hours, hours to digest and
debate a bill of this magnitude, the leadership in this House, the
people's House, has refused to include in this legislation any relief
for the tens of thousands of workers in the airline and related
industries who have lost or will soon lose their jobs because of this
crisis.
I have voted against the martial rule; and I will vote against this
rule, because I believe that a bill this size, this magnitude, of this
importance should not be rushed through the Congress. However, I will
vote for this bill because I do not have a choice. The leadership has
left no choice.
Mr. Speaker, this bill is not even close to perfect, but I will
support it.
Mr. REYNOLDS. Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. FROST. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Texas
(Mr. Green).
(Mr. GREEN of Texas asked and was given permission to revise and
extend his remarks.)
Mr. GREEN of Texas. Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong support of not only
the rule but also the Air Transport System Stabilization Act of 2001.
Last week, this country suffered a terrible human loss when
terrorists decided to use our airline industry as a weapon of mass
destruction. The human magnitude of this attack has now started to
crystallize, but the economic consequences of many of our industries,
like the airlines, is only now becoming known.
Whether intentionally or unintentionally, the terrorists have brought
financial ruin on our national airline system. Our national carriers
have suffered a 50 to 80 percent drop in passenger miles flown, and
that number may actually get worse in the short term. Congress must
step in immediately and provide a financial floor for the industry.
They need help, and they need it now.
I understand there are many in this Chamber who want to attach a
broad list of legislative mandates and conditions on the bill. I would
like to do some of these. But this assistance is only the first step.
If we delay providing financial assistance one more week while we
haggle over these proposals, this industry would not need the $15
billion because they will be out of business. That is because airlines
are going to start declaring bankruptcy and will not need the money.
Delaying this financial assistance package means more workers will
lose their jobs and Wall Street will continue to punish their stocks.
Let me make something very clear, our number one priority should be
the jobs of the thousands of airline employees being furloughed or
laid-off. But, we cannot begin to help them until we arrest the
airlines sinking financial position. This legislation is not a bailout,
it is a helping hand that I hope all the airlines fully appreciate.
Mr. Speaker, I do also want to interject that I would like to see all
the airline CEO's show some solidarity with their workers by agreeing
to take a cut in pay. I understand that the legislation caps their pay,
but I do not think this is sufficient in the face of the thousands of
pink slips being handed out. Tough times need to be shared by all. My
colleagues, we have time left in this session to bring a second more
comprehensive airline reform package to the floor.
I know the chairman, the gentleman from Alaska (Mr. Young) and the
ranking member, the gentleman from Minnesota (Mr. Oberstar), will work
with all Members to address their concerns, but please lets get this
package out the door today.
Mr. REYNOLDS. Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. FROST. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from
Washington (Mr. Dicks).
(Mr. DICKS asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
Mr. DICKS. Mr. Speaker, this legislation tonight certainly is not
perfect, but we have a very dire situation that faces the airlines. I
happen to come from the State of Washington, which is a State that has
already been affected with the Boeing Company announcing a layoff of
30,000 workers in our State. I believe this legislation will help stem
that terrible loss and will keep people at work, both in the airlines
and at Boeing.
I am deeply disappointed, however, that the leadership chose not to
put in place the unemployment compensation benefits that would help the
unemployed workers at Boeing and help the unemployed workers at the
airlines. It is my understanding that the gentleman from Missouri (Mr.
Gephardt) and the Speaker will have a colloquy in which they will state
their intention to bring legislation up next week. My support for this
legislation is contingent upon that happening.
Mr. Speaker, I rise tonight to offer my support for this legislation
because I believe it is necessary for the survival of the airline
industry in our country at this time. Without the infusion of cash and
loan guarantees that is contained in this bill, I believe we would run
the real risk that this vital component of our transportation system--
so critical to our economy and our way of life--will cease to operate.
We have already seen huge airline layoffs resulting from the disaster
of September 11th, along with the resulting airport closures and sharp
decline in air passenger traffic. And in the Puget Sound area of
Washington State that I represent, we face the prospect of 20,000 to
30,000 layoffs at the Boeing Company in the year ahead, due to the
industry decline that was certainly exacerbated by the terrorist
attacks last week. This package we are considering today will help us
avoid more bad news, Mr. Speaker, and deeper job cuts.
However, my support of this bill is contingent on the premise that a
comprehensive package of assistance for workers in the airline industry
and at Boeing will become law in the next few weeks. This broad array
of benefits, including income support, skills training, educational
assistance and other re-employment help is absolutely necessary, and it
recognizes the tangible impact on workers in the industry as a result
of this terrible national tragedy. In fact, I would have preferred if
we had included this worker assistance in the legislation we are
considering today in the House of Representatives, because the workers
deserve an immediate sign from the federal government that they will
not be forgotten as we are responding to the financial crisis among the
airline companies themselves.
Already, I have begun working with the State of Washington and the
U.S. Department of Labor to ensure that existing programs of income
support and training are able to meet the sudden huge demand that may
be placed upon them. It is important to marshal these resources to help
get these workers through the tough economic times ahead.
So I support the legislation to help the struggling airline industry
in America at this critical time, Mr. Speaker. But I do so with the
understanding and the hope that the workers who will be affected
downstream by these same financial problems will know that help is on
the way to them also.
Mr. FROST. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from
California (Mr. Farr).
Mr. FARR of California. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for
yielding me this time. I rise as the other co-chair of the
Congressional Travel and Tourism Caucus, along with my colleague, the
gentleman from Florida (Mr. Foley).
I rise in support of the bill but with great concern. We have shown
nothing but unanimity since the disaster last week. The airlines need
this help, but it is not only the airlines that need this help, it is
the employees of the airlines that need this help and it is all the
other tourism related issues. I really want to ask my colleagues on the
other side to try to keep the unity that we saw last night by really
helping all of the industry affected in the United States, not just the
airlines.
I support this because it is a 3-5-10 bill. And to explain that: it
is $5 billion in direct aid; it is $3 billion for airport security, and
certainly I think there is more needed in airport security, I think we
need to Federalize all our security and we need to have a surcharge on
that; and, lastly, it is $10 billion in loan guarantees.
It is a good bill but a bad process.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from New York (Mr. Reynolds)
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has 5 minutes remaining, and the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Frost) has
1\1/2\ minutes remaining.
Mr. REYNOLDS. Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. FROST. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentlewoman from
Connecticut (Ms. DeLauro).
Ms. DeLAURO. Mr. Speaker, today I rise with a troubled conscience to
address the rule before this body.
September 11 marked one of the darkest moments in our country's
history. On that day, terrorists struck at the heart of our social and
economic fabric, and the ripple effects of this tragedy are still being
felt. In particular, the airline industry was severely impacted,
resulting in tremendous economic hardship for the carriers, the people
who work for them, and the travel industry as a whole.
This bill will allow the airlines to continue flying, provide some
security for our airports and airways, and grant critical compensation
to the families of victims of last week's barbaric attack. For those
reasons, I hesitate to vote ``no.'' Nonetheless, the bill does little
for more than the 100,000 workers laid off as a result of this tragedy.
Millions of laid-off workers and their families will be left behind
with no guarantee they will retain their unemployment benefits.
The security provisions do not go far enough. The airline industry
has fought the government tooth and nail over increased airline safety.
We cannot afford for the airline industries to fail; but they deserve a
stern warning, not just a check.
That is why I will vote ``no'' on the rule.
Mr. REYNOLDS. Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. FROST. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself the remaining time.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Texas is recognized for
\1/2\ minute.
Mr. FROST. Mr. Speaker, as many people have indicated, this is not a
perfect bill, but we have very little choice. We need to move forward
tonight. We must pass this legislation.
I urge adoption of the rule and adoption of the bill, and I yield
back the balance of my time.
Mr. REYNOLDS. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself the balance of my time.
There has been a lot of debate on this rule about jobs and providing
some assistance for what will be laid-off airline workers. And as I
said earlier, I hope that we will have the opportunity, by
strengthening our airline system, that they will be called back.
We have many challenges ahead of us in the hard work that this House
and the other body and the administration has. I think about New York
City, at the other end of my State, faced with 30 to 40 million square
feet of lost office space, and 40,000 workers no longer working every
day. And while we look at some of the things we face, and it is
apparent we will have future debate on some of the airline industries
assistance for laid-off workers, we have so much work to do in a
comprehensive package that we need to work together on as we address
some of these national tragedies that occurred in America in loss of
jobs, let alone loss of life in New York City.
Our focus here today was to save jobs and continue an airline
industry that this country is critically dependent on. The ripple
effect of last week's attacks have been felt all over the world. In the
blink of an eye, the way of life that we have taken for granted for so
long has been changed forever.
Despite that national state of shock, thousands of our fellow
citizens immediately went to work to ensure the safety and security of
our American citizens. Within a matter of hours on the day of the
attacks, the Federal Aviation Administration carefully orchestrated the
safe grounding of every single airplane flying within the United
States. This quick response and cooperation from the entire airline
industry ensured the safety and well-being of countless individuals.
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But in the wake of the cowardly attacks on our Nation, scheduling
cutbacks and subsequent reductions in the number of flights have hit
the industry hard. We as Members of Congress know that full well.
Already there have been over 80,000 airline-related layoffs with more
expected. We must remember that this is not just an industry giant that
is suffering. It is a critical component of our way of life and a vital
segment of our national economy.
Our airlines move people and products across America and throughout
the world. They serve not just business and tourism, but can, quite
literally, determine whether we are able to compete in a global
economy. The rule is now before us.
Mr. SPRATT. Mr. Speaker, the federal government must come to the aid
of the airlines, and help them quickly, or the repercussions will be
felt from coast to coast, all over our economy. Before September 11,
our economy was at the tipping point; if the airlines fail, the economy
will surely move into a recession, and the downturn will be deeper and
longer.
I also believe that the victims of this tragedy, whether in the air
or on the ground, deserve compensation, and most citizens will be
pleased to know that this bill uses their tax dollars for that purpose.
But in this case, where the liability of the airlines is unsettled, I
do think there are limits to which victims' compensation by the
government should be provided. This bill sets up a Victims'
Compensation Fund, but does not specify the size of the fund or the
maximum that any beneficiary can recover. Many of the victims in the
World Trade Center earned many times the incomes of the firemen and
police who died trying to protect them. Under this bill, the heirs of
those victims will be eligible for many times more benefits than this
bill will allow those brave firemen and police. Quite a few claimants
will be able to show substantial incomes. The earning capacity of their
decedents will run into millions of dollars. I do not doubt their
losses, or the grief their survivors must feel, but I do think the
compensation to which they are entitled under this bill should be
subject to some fair and reasonable limit. At this point, no one has
any idea what the government's liability under the Victims'
Compensation Fund may be, though it is likely to be substantial.
I wanted to propose that we set a fair but generous cap on the
victims' benefits paid by the government, and use some of the money
saved to help the thousands of airline workers who are being terminated
or laid off, and are in a real sense, victims of the September 11
tragedy also. H. Resolution 244, the rule allowing this bill to come to
the House floor, would not permit me to offer such an amendment, and
for that reason, I voted against the rule. I will vote for the bill,
but it would be a much better bill if such an amendment had been made.
Mr. BLUMENAUER. Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to the Rule. The
rushed process by which this airline relief legislation has been
brought to the Floor does not allow for full consideration of the
critical elements that the public deserves to have addressed.
The rule does not allow Members to add provisions to this legislation
that would provide a more fair and comprehensive relief package to
protect and restore the entire aviation industry, including those who
work for airlines and in other directly related industries. In this
time of extreme tension and sense of urgency, we should be urgent about
doing things right and not rushing to consider solutions that only
address half of the problem.
Federal assistance to stabilize the industry is warranted. I cannot,
however, support a rule that fails to consider all of the ripple
effects to those people and businesses across the country who are
directly impacted by last week's tragic events.
Mr. OLVER. Mr. Speaker, every member of this house understands that
the airline industry has been devastated by the terrorism of September
11th.
We must provide help to the airline industry. I am sure we will do
that today. This bill today aids the airline companies and by all
accounts they need aid. United, American, Delta, Northwest, and US
Airways are laying off 20-25% of their workforces and cutting 25% of
their routes.
But this bill provides no parallel aid for the nearly 100,000 direct
employees who are losing their jobs. Furthermore, this bill does not
even contemplate the spinoff losses of jobs in the travel and tourism
industry, the hotels and restaurants, the resorts and travel services.
This is a severe inequity.
Beyond that, this bill does absolutely nothing to assure the American
public that they can travel safely in this new world that the terrorism
of September 11th has imposed on us all.
Yesterday, in a joint hearing, the Senate and House Transportation
Subcommittees on Appropriations heard powerful testimony by the FAA,
GAO, and Inspector General documenting the utterly porous security
systems operated by the airlines.
Both the GAO and IG have extensively tested the security systems and
found that screeners frequently fail to detect guns, knives, and other
threats at security check points. The IG repeatedly breached secure
areas in a large percentage of their tests at
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major airports. Once they entered secure areas, they could easily board
aircraft.
Why are the breaches of the security system so easy?
The GAO and IG cite: low wages and benefits of security personnel;
little or no training of screeners; weak to no criminal checks on
screeners; no uniform standards for screening; very rapid turnover
(from 80% to over 200%).
In other word these are largely dead end jobs. DEAD END JOBS
protecting the security of American travelers.
This bill does nothing to correct the obvious error of placing
airline companies in a double conflict of interest that the present
system creates. First, spending the necessary money to provide the
security that Americans must have comes from the airline's bottom line.
Second, proper screening requires time and causes longer waits in line.
But Americans will not return to the airways unless they are
convinced that travel is safe. So, we must professionalize the airport
security system with the ultimate responsibility for that security
system firmly federalized.
In conclusion, neither the plight of employees of airlines and the
related travel and tourism industry nor the necessary security of the
American public when they fly is considered in this bill. Both will
have to be addressed very soon.
But today, we have a bill that deals with an important part of the
airline industry problem.
I urge this House to do that much, but then come back and finish the
job before we adjourn this session of Congress.
Mr. REYNOLDS. Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time, and I
move the previous question on the resolution.
The previous question was ordered.
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Thornberry). The question is on the
resolution.
The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that
the ayes appeared to have it.
Mr. FROST. Mr. Speaker, I object to the vote on the ground that a
quorum is not present and make the point of order that a quorum is not
present.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Evidently a quorum is not present.
The Sergeant at Arms will notify absent Members.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--yeas 285,
nays 130, not voting 16, as follows:
[Roll No. 346]
YEAS--285
Aderholt
Akin
Andrews
Armey
Bachus
Baird
Baker
Baldacci
Ballenger
Barr
Bartlett
Barton
Bass
Bentsen
Berkley
Berry
Biggert
Bilirakis
Blagojevich
Blunt
Boehlert
Boehner
Bonilla
Bono
Borski
Boswell
Boucher
Brady (TX)
Brown (SC)
Bryant
Burr
Burton
Buyer
Callahan
Calvert
Camp
Cannon
Cantor
Capito
Capps
Carson (OK)
Castle
Chabot
Chambliss
Coble
Collins
Combest
Cooksey
Cramer
Crane
Crenshaw
Crowley
Cubin
Culberson
Cunningham
Davis, Jo Ann
Davis, Tom
Deal
DeLay
DeMint
Diaz-Balart
Dicks
Dooley
Doolittle
Doyle
Dreier
Duncan
Dunn
Edwards
Ehlers
Ehrlich
Emerson
English
Etheridge
Everett
Ferguson
Flake
Fletcher
Foley
Forbes
Ford
Frelinghuysen
Frost
Gallegly
Ganske
Gekas
Gephardt
Gibbons
Gilchrest
Gillmor
Gilman
Goode
Goodlatte
Goss
Graham
Granger
Graves
Green (TX)
Green (WI)
Greenwood
Grucci
Gutknecht
Hall (OH)
Hansen
Hart
Hastert
Hastings (WA)
Hayes
Hayworth
Herger
Hill
Hilleary
Hobson
Hoekstra
Honda
Horn
Hostettler
Houghton
Hulshof
Hunter
Hyde
Isakson
Israel
Istook
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Jenkins
John
Johnson (CT)
Johnson (IL)
Johnson, E. B.
Johnson, Sam
Jones (NC)
Kanjorski
Keller
Kelly
Kennedy (MN)
Kerns
King (NY)
Kingston
Kirk
Knollenberg
Kolbe
LaHood
Lampson
Largent
Larson (CT)
Latham
LaTourette
Leach
Levin
Lewis (CA)
Lewis (KY)
LoBiondo
Lofgren
Lucas (KY)
Lucas (OK)
Maloney (NY)
Manzullo
Mascara
Matheson
Matsui
McCrery
McGovern
McHugh
McInnis
McIntyre
McKeon
Meehan
Meeks (NY)
Menendez
Mica
Miller, Gary
Moore
Moran (KS)
Moran (VA)
Morella
Murtha
Myrick
Nethercutt
Ney
Northup
Norwood
Nussle
Oberstar
Ortiz
Osborne
Ose
Otter
Oxley
Pallone
Pascrell
Pastor
Paul
Pence
Peterson (PA)
Petri
Phelps
Pickering
Pitts
Platts
Pombo
Pomeroy
Portman
Pryce (OH)
Putnam
Quinn
Radanovich
Ramstad
Regula
Rehberg
Reyes
Reynolds
Riley
Roemer
Rogers (KY)
Rogers (MI)
Rohrabacher
Ros-Lehtinen
Ross
Roukema
Royce
Ryan (WI)
Ryun (KS)
Sabo
Saxton
Schiff
Schrock
Sensenbrenner
Serrano
Sessions
Shadegg
Shaw
Shays
Sherwood
Shimkus
Shows
Shuster
Simmons
Simpson
Skeen
Skelton
Smith (MI)
Smith (NJ)
Smith (TX)
Snyder
Souder
Stearns
Stenholm
Stump
Sununu
Sweeney
Tancredo
Tanner
Tauscher
Tauzin
Taylor (MS)
Taylor (NC)
Terry
Thomas
Thornberry
Thune
Tiahrt
Tiberi
Toomey
Traficant
Turner
Upton
Vitter
Walden
Wamp
Watkins (OK)
Watson (CA)
Watts (OK)
Weiner
Weldon (FL)
Weldon (PA)
Weller
Wexler
Whitfield
Wicker
Wilson
Wolf
Wynn
Young (AK)
Young (FL)
NAYS--130
Abercrombie
Ackerman
Allen
Baca
Baldwin
Barcia
Barrett
Becerra
Bishop
Blumenauer
Bonior
Boyd
Brady (PA)
Brown (FL)
Brown (OH)
Capuano
Cardin
Clay
Clayton
Clement
Clyburn
Condit
Costello
Coyne
Cummings
Davis (CA)
Davis (FL)
Davis (IL)
DeFazio
DeGette
Delahunt
DeLauro
Doggett
Engel
Eshoo
Evans
Farr
Fattah
Filner
Gonzalez
Gordon
Gutierrez
Hall (TX)
Harman
Hastings (FL)
Hilliard
Hinchey
Hinojosa
Hoeffel
Holt
Hooley
Hoyer
Inslee
Jackson (IL)
Jefferson
Jones (OH)
Kaptur
Kennedy (RI)
Kildee
Kilpatrick
Kind (WI)
Kleczka
Kucinich
LaFalce
Langevin
Lantos
Larsen (WA)
Lee
Lewis (GA)
Lipinski
Lowey
Luther
Maloney (CT)
Markey
McCarthy (MO)
McCarthy (NY)
McCollum
McDermott
McKinney
McNulty
Meek (FL)
Millender-McDonald
Miller, George
Mink
Mollohan
Nadler
Napolitano
Neal
Obey
Olver
Owens
Payne
Pelosi
Peterson (MN)
Price (NC)
Rahall
Rangel
Rivers
Rodriguez
Rothman
Roybal-Allard
Rush
Sanchez
Sanders
Sandlin
Sawyer
Schakowsky
Scott
Sherman
Slaughter
Smith (WA)
Solis
Spratt
Stark
Strickland
Stupak
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Thurman
Tierney
Udall (CO)
Udall (NM)
Velazquez
Visclosky
Walsh
Waters
Watt (NC)
Waxman
Woolsey
Wu
NOT VOTING--16
Bereuter
Berman
Carson (IN)
Conyers
Cox
Deutsch
Dingell
Fossella
Frank
Hefley
Holden
Issa
Linder
Miller (FL)
Schaffer
Towns
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Mrs. MEEK of Florida, Mrs. McCARTHY of New York, Ms. RIVERS, and Mr.
DOGGETT changed their vote from ``yea'' to ``nay.''
Ms. LOFGREN changed her vote from ``nay'' to ``yea.''
So the resolution was agreed to.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
A motion to reconsider was laid on the table.
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