[Congressional Record Volume 147, Number 75 (Saturday, May 26, 2001)]
[Senate]
[Pages S5768-S5770]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]
SENATOR JEFFORDS
Mr. SPECTER. Mr. President, I have sought recognition this morning to
comment on Senator Jeffords' announcement that he will vote with the
Democrats on organization of the Senate. I have delayed in expressing
these thoughts to further reflect upon them and perhaps avoid saying
something that I would later regret. I have written them down, which is
unusual for me because I believe that floor statements, as speeches
generally, are best made from the heart rather than text.
When I first heard last Tuesday that Senator Jeffords was considering
this move, I told the news media: ``It shouldn't happen--it won't
happen--it can't happen.'' Well, I was wrong.
When Senator Jeffords confirmed that he was about to vote with the
Democrats, I joined five other Senators who tried to dissuade him in a
morning meeting last Wednesday. The group reconvened for an afternoon
meeting, with some ten other Senators and Senator Jeffords. Between the
two meetings, we conferred with the Republican leadership on what
suggestions we could make to Senator Jeffords to keep him in the fold.
For 13 years, Jim Jeffords has been one of my closest friends in the
Senate and he still is. We have had lunch together every Wednesday for
years. First, with Senator John Chafee, and later with Senator Olympia
Snowe, Senator Susan Collins, and Senator Lincoln Chafee. He had never
given any hint to me of such a move.
Before discussing the suggestions which would be made to Senator
Jeffords, we first pleaded with him, saying his change would disrupt
the Senate, it would change the balance of power in the Federal
Government generally, it would severely weaken the Republican Party--of
which he was a lifelong member, it would hurt his Senate friends, and
likely cost many staffers to lose their jobs.
Senator Jeffords replied that he was opposed to the party's policies
on many items and believed he could do more for his principles by
organizing with the Democrats.
We then told Senator Jeffords that we were authorized by the
Republican leadership to tell him that if he stayed, the term limits on
his chairmanship would be waived, he would have a seat at the
Republican leadership table as the moderate's representative, and IDEA,
special education, would become an entitlement which would enrich that
program by billions of dollars for children across America.
At the end of our second long meeting, I felt we had a significant
chance to keep him. On Thursday morning, I was deeply disappointed by
his announcement that he would organize with the Democrats. My
immediate response to the news media was that it felt as if there had
been a death in the family. Other Senators from our close-knit group
were, candidly, hurt and confused. For some, that has turned to anger.
Most of the Republican Senate caucus has had little to say, trying to
put the best face on what is really a devastating loss.
The full impact has yet to sink in. It will undoubtedly be the topic
of much contemporaneous columnist comment and beyond that for the
historians.
Well, the question now arises, Where do we go from here? The Senate
leadership, notwithstanding Senator Jeffords' departure from our
caucus, has created a moderate seat at the leadership table to address
some of Senator Jeffords' concerns. More needs to be done. And I think
more will be done.
How should these issues be handled by the Senate for the future? I
intend to propose a rule change which would preclude a future
recurrence of a Senator's change in parties, in midsession, organizing
with the opposition, to cause the upheaval which is now resulting.
I take second place to no one on independence voting. But, it is my
view that the organizational vote belongs to the party which supported
the election of a particular Senator. I believe that is the
expectation. And certainly it has been a very abrupt party change,
although they have occurred in the past with only minor ripples, none
have caused the major dislocation which this one has.
When I first ran in 1980, Congressman Bud Shuster sponsored a
fundraiser for me in Altoona where Congressman Jack Kemp was the
principal speaker. When some questions were raised as to my political
philosophy, Congressman Shuster said my most important vote would be
the organizational vote. From that day to this, I have believed that
the organizational vote belonged to the party which supported my
election.
When the Democrats urged me to switch parties some time ago, I gave
them a flat ``no.'' I have been asked in the last several days if I
intended to switch parties. I have said absolutely not.
Senator Phil Gramm faced this issue when he decided to switch
parties. He resigned his seat, which he had won as a Democrat, and ran
for reelection as a Republican. As he told me, his last vote in January
1983 was for the Speaker of the House of Representatives, and he voted
for Tip O'Neill with the view that he was elected as a Democrat and
should vote that way on organizational control. Even though, he
intended to become a Republican and would have preferred another person
to be Speaker.
To repeat, I intend to propose a Senate rule which would preclude a
change in control of the Senate when a Senator decides to vote with the
opposing party for organizational purposes.
One other aspect does deserve comment, and that is the issue of
personal benefit to a changing Senator. In our society, political
arrangements avoid the consequences of similar conduct in other
contexts.
For example, if company A induces a competitor's employee to break
his contract with company B and join company A, company B can collect
damages for company A's wrongful conduct. If A gives a benefit to an
employee of B to induce the employee to breach a duty, that conduct can
have serious consequences in other contexts which are not applied to
political arrangements.
On the Lehrer news show on Thursday night, the day before yesterday,
Senator Harry Reid and I sparred over this point. I expressed my
concern about reliable reports that Democrats had told Senator Jeffords
that Senator Reid would step aside so Senator Jeffords could become
chairman of the Environment and Public Works Committee. Senator Reid
replied that there was no quid pro quo, an expression I had not used.
Accepting Senator Jeffords' decision was based on principle for the
reasons he gave at his news conference on Thursday morning, a question
still remains as to whether any such inducement was offered and whether
it played any part in Senator Jeffords' decision. Questions on such
offers and counteroffers should be considered by Senators and by the
Senate in an ethical context, but at this moment I do
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not see any way to effect such conduct by rulemaking or legislation.
This week's events raise very profound questions for the governance
of our country as well as the operation of the Senate. I intend to
press a rule change which would preclude a recurrence of this situation
and will be discussing with my colleagues the whole idea of inducements
as an incentive for a party switch.
I thank the Chair and yield the floor.
The ACTING PRESIDENT pro tempore. The Senator from Nevada.
Mr. REID. Mr. President, before the Senator leaves, I was off the
floor and am disappointed that the Senator saw me here and decided to
speak after I left the Chamber, using my name on several occasions.
Would the Senator from Pennsylvania tell the Senator from Nevada, is he
saying that Senator Jeffords did something wrong in switching parties?
Mr. SPECTER. I have been very careful in my selection of words. I
have not said anybody did anything wrong.
Mr. REID. OK.
Mr. SPECTER. I am a little surprised to hear the Senator from Nevada
expressing some concern about the statement which this Senator has just
made. This is the floor of the U.S. Senate and these are matters of
grave concern for the Senate. I have spoken with great modulation on a
subject where a great deal more could have been said by me and by
others.
Mr. REID. I appreciate the Senator's statement. It seems to me that,
no matter if it was a matter of importance or nonimportance, if I was
going to speak about the Senator from Pennsylvania, I would tell the
Senator from Pennsylvania, ``I am going to say a few words mentioning
your name; do you want to be on the floor?'' The Senator decided not to
do that. I appreciate that.
It is my understanding that the Senator from Vermont, prior to his
leaving the Republican Party, was chairman of a pretty big committee,
the HELP Committee?
Mr. SPECTER. That is true. And one of the concerns which Senator
Jeffords had, as expressed to a number of us, was his term limitation.
But if I might respond to an earlier point by Senator Reid, I saw
Senator Reid on the floor. He is the assistant majority leader.
Perhaps, I might have said to Senator Reid: ``I am about to mention
your name.''
I did so really to accommodate his statement that there was no quid
pro quo. There had been a statement that there was nothing done in
exchange for something. So that in saying that, it was not said in any
condemnatory, derogatory, or critical manner.
Mr. REID. I appreciate the statement of the Senator from
Pennsylvania. I am one of the biggest fans of the Senator from
Pennsylvania. I am one of the few people here, probably, who have read
his book from cover to cover.
Mr. SPECTER. That number is growing, I say to the Senator.
Mr. REID. It takes a long time to read. I am a fast reader. That is
the reason I am ahead of most people. I say to my friend from
Pennsylvania, I appreciate not only what he said but how he said it. I
am sorry if I in any way mistook the Senator's statement.
This is a time, as the Senator indicated, of some tenseness around
here. I wanted to make sure the Senator and I understood each other,
which we do. I thank him very much.
The ACTING PRESIDENT pro tempore. The Senator from Illinois.
Mr. DURBIN. Mr. President, I seek recognition in morning business.
The ACTING PRESIDENT pro tempore. The Senator is recognized.
Mr. DURBIN. Mr. President, first let me address the comments of the
Senator from Pennsylvania.
The Nation and perhaps many parts of the Western World will be
focused on the comments of Senator Jeffords this week. They are
particularly important not because a man who was a lifelong Republican
has declared that he would become an Independent but because of the
impact of that decision on this institution and on the Government in
Washington.
For people to change political parties is rare in this American
political scene but not unheard of. In fact, the Senator from
Pennsylvania, on his side of the aisle, on the Republican side of the
aisle, has at least four colleagues who have done that:
Senator Strom Thurmond, first elected as a Democrat, Governor of
South Carolina, then ran as a candidate for the U.S. Senate as a
Democrat and decided to change parties and become a Republican. That
was his decision.
I served with Senator Phil Gramm in the House when he was a Democrat.
He made the decision to change parties and stood for reelection in
Texas as a Republican to let the people make their decision as to
whether or not they would validate his choice of the new party.
Then there is Senator Richard Shelby of Alabama, once a Democrat, now
a Republican on Senator Specter's side of the aisle.
Senator Ben Nighthorse Campbell, once a Democrat, is now a
Republican.
So I find it interesting that now is the moment that the Senator from
Pennsylvania wants to suggest we have to change the rules to militate
against this change of party sponsorship, when there is a change of
party allegiance. The difference, I think, is obvious. In the four
previous examples, it did not result in the change of control of the
Senate. I think perhaps that is why more attention has been paid to
Senator Jeffords' decision. I honor his decision. I think he is an
honorable man. I don't believe he made this decision lightly. I think
he reflected on it. He made the decision to be an Independent and to
join the Democrats in organizing in the Senate. I think the statement
he made in Burlington, VT, in front of the people he will represent was
one of the better statements I have heard in my public career. It was
clearly a decision of conscience.
To suggest that there was any quid pro quo or any other reason
demeans the integrity of one of our colleagues whom we both respect
very much. So I hope we will put this in some historical perspective
within this institution, where half a dozen Members have either
contemplated or changed political party. They have a right to serve,
and they will ultimately answer to the people of their State about
their decision.
Mr. SPECTER. Will the Senator yield?
Mr. DURBIN. For a question, I am happy to yield, retaining my right
to the floor.
Mr. SPECTER. Mr. President, my response is not really a question,
although it can always be articulated in the form of a question which
is our custom. The Senator from Illinois has the floor, and I
appreciate his yielding to me. I just have a brief comment to make
without any articulation of a question, if I may, reserving the
Senator's right to the floor.
Mr. DURBIN. I do not object, but I retain my right to the floor.
Mr. SPECTER. Mr. President, I will formulate it as a unanimous
consent request that I may reply very briefly, retaining the status of
the Senator's right to the floor.
The ACTING PRESIDENT pro tempore. Without objection, it is so
ordered.
Mr. SPECTER. Mr. President, in what I have had to say here, I have
said it as carefully as I can. I have written it all down and I read
it. I think it may be the first speech I have ever read on the Senate
floor in the 20 years and 5 months I have been here. I wanted to be
very precise.
I believe Senator Jeffords is a man of the highest principle and
integrity. I have enormous respect for all of what he has done,
including the statement made in Vermont on Thursday morning.
When the Senator from Illinois comments about the change in parties
of others, what he says is true. I have said in the prepared text that
Senator Gramm went to the unusual extent of actually resigning. Senator
Gramm told me, as I recounted, that his last vote in early 1983 was for
the Speaker of the House of Representatives. He voted for Congressman
Tip O'Neill. I think Senator Gramm said he was elected as a Democrat.
I think the examples of Senators Shelby, Campbell, Thurmond, and
then-Congressman Phil Gramm/now Senator Gramm are really irrelevant to
what happened here. This is really a very, extraordinary matter. As the
Senator from Illinois knows, we have had a change in the governance of
the Senate, and each of us can attest to how hard it is to get to the
Senate, and then how hard it is to get party control of the Senate.
With that historical
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election and a 50/50 balance, any one of the Senators on either side
could tip the balance. Republicans had control by virtue of the Vice
Presidency.
When Senator Jeffords made a switch for organizational purposes, he
affected the governance of the country. The ability to set the agenda
here is of enormous consequence. To have the Democrat as the majority
leader, he gets the first recognition. Then you have the President's
agenda. Some people are glad that the President's agenda will not have
an advocate in the Senate and the majority leader as a Republican to
put that agenda forward. The Senate chairmanships we need not focus on
too long.
But there were people in the Senate family who were weeping--staffers
who are going to lose their jobs. I said on the ``Jim Lehrer Show''
that what happened was ``seismic.'' Senator Dorgan agreed with me that
it was an ``earthquake''.
So in seeking a limitation on organizational change, I am not moving
to the point to say that if a Senator wants to change parties, there
ought to be any rule against that. He can find his peace with his
electorate, where there may be a political price to pay or there may
not be. But when so many others pay a price, it is my very firm view
that the rule ought to be changed, and I will be submitting an
appropriate rule shortly.
I thank my colleague from Illinois and I yield the floor.
The ACTING PRESIDENT pro tempore. The Senator from Illinois has the
floor.
Mr. DURBIN. Mr. President, I have the floor, but I would like to know
if the Senator from Iowa would like to make a request.
Mr. GRASSLEY. No.
Mr. DURBIN. Mr. President, I will accept the statement of the Senator
from Pennsylvania. I understand there is change, and with change there
is pain. I hope we can do our best to be positive and constructive as
the Senate leadership does change. I hope we can continue to show
mutual respect for our colleagues, as I have great respect for the
Senator from Pennsylvania. I think that is an important hallmark of
this institution, and I think we should all make an extra effort to
preserve that.
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