[Congressional Record Volume 146, Number 124 (Friday, October 6, 2000)]
[Senate]
[Pages S10066-S10067]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]
THE GORE BUDGET
Mr. DOMENICI. Mr. President, yesterday, and maybe two previous
occasions on the Senate floor, I discussed the Gore budget and what is
going to happen to the huge amount of money that we are getting from
the taxpayers, which we have begun to call a ``surplus.'' I choose now
to call it the ``tax overpayment.'' It is what the people are paying in
that we don't need.
I would like to, once again, make sure the Republican candidate for
President, George W. Bush, and the candidate for Vice President--who
last night did such a marvelous job--the distinguished former Secretary
of Defense, Dick Cheney--I urge them to continue to tell the American
people what the Gore budget will look like.
When it is mentioned, everybody says this came from the Budget
Committee staff and the Republicans, and, therefore, you shouldn't use
it; that it is partisan; that it is like paper that is not even worth
using.
I say to our two candidates, keep using it. Keep saying it is true
because they are about as good as any people we have ever had to look
at budgets. I am chairman of that committee, and, frankly, I have
relied on their expertise year after year. I don't think I have to
exaggerate and say they are the best. They are the best at getting to
the bottom of programs and analyzing them. I asked them to do it. They
did it. They gave us a major report on the subject, and I will say to
our candidate--to the Governor of Texas, to the former Secretary of
Defense, Dick Cheney--no matter what they say about it, you use it.
The Gore budget has 200 new programs in it. If you estimate
appropriately their cost based upon what is said about the program, you
cannot pay for those programs without using all of the on-budget
surplus and $700 to $900 billion of the Social Security surplus.
Now, that is our version. We think it is true. And we don't believe
the American people actually think when you finally have a surplus--
because we are paying so much more in taxes than we need--we don't
think the American people want the Government to grow at the largest
rate in modern history. Probably if you put the Gore expenditure budget
into effect, you will increase Government in 1 to 2 years, more than
any modern year, excepting maybe the Lyndon Johnson Great Society
years.
Now, it doesn't matter to me as the chairman of the Budget Committee
what Vice President Gore says about these figures, nor what our
distinguished Senator from Connecticut, Vice Presidential nominee who I
have great, great respect for, it doesn't matter what they keep saying.
The truth is, we have an analysis of that budget. Early next week we
will have a full analysis. They finally put their budget on to sheets
of paper. It is a very large budget. We will finally have that
analyzed. I am told it will come out no different. It will come out the
same way, 200-plus new programs, the largest new expenditure in the
next 5 years that we have ever had in the Government. If you take them
at their word and do all of them, you cannot do it without spending
part of the Social Security surplus. No matter what they say about its
source, it is as good as anything they have.
I have great respect for the Vice Presidential nominee. He knows
that. Last night he said something that wasn't true, and I ask him to
revisit this. He said their budget, the budget they have, analyzed for
the future, was done by a neutral body called the Congressional Budget
Office. That is to make sure that everybody would think it is authentic
and that the Domenici budget analysis is not authentic. I assure
everyone, the Congressional Budget Office does not do an analysis of
either candidate's budget. In fact, that is not within their
prerogative. They have not analyzed the Gore budget. They have not
analyzed the budget of the Governor of Texas, either. And they won't.
The Democrats have somebody analyzing theirs, watching out for them,
who is on their team, and they want everybody to think ours, and the
majority staff has worked on this for years, they want everyone to
believe it has no credibility. I think to the contrary.
My friend Dick Cheney will be in my State in a few days. I hope he
talks about this subject. Let them bring up the fact that Democrats
don't think it is worth very much. We will make sure the public
understands we have as good an analysis as anyone. If the Democratic
nominee for President does every program he contemplates--there are
some that are superexpensive. There are some universal programs in
there that will never get adopted by Congress, but we might as well
make sure the public understands they are expected, they are
contemplated, they are out there to tell the people, elect us and we
will do all these things.
That is part of my reason for coming to the floor, so anyone who
wonders whether that is authentic, I can assure Members, I will not
give ground on this through the election and after the election. I
believe it is right. I think our candidates ought to use it.
Now I will talk about the so-called Al Gore tax cut plan and the
George W. Bush plan. I don't know if I have enough time today to go
through the George W. Bush plan, which is very simple. I am not sure I
can do that because today I want to talk a little bit about a rather
unique way to cut taxes, or allege you are cutting taxes, for middle-
income America when you are not.
If there is a middle-income American who happens to be listening, and
they say, oh, boy, Vice President Gore has spoken so much about giving
the middle class a tax cut, I will get a tax cut--my friends, you are
not necessarily going to get the tax cut. The Gore plan says the
Internal Revenue Service will decide whether you get a tax cut. And you
are going to apply for it when you file your tax return, and if you are
a family, you have to go through up to 25 different tests with the
Internal Revenue Service to determine what you are entitled to. In
fact, if the people think the Internal Revenue Code is complicated, and
IRS is not doing a good job, then remember that every single so-called
tax cut that Vice President Gore is telling you about is going to be
administered by the Internal Revenue Service, which is going to pass
judgment on whether you are entitled to one of the scores of tax
credits or other tax benefits. Let me go further, the IRS will
determine what tax refunds or government check you are entitled to,
because under Vice President Gore's plan not only taxpayers get tax
breaks, people who pay no taxes get government checks.
People will fill out their federal tax return. They will find a check
in the mail from the Internal Revenue Service, even though they pay no
taxes.
That is part of his tax plan. The part for middle Americans, middle-
income Americans, you cannot just file your tax return and say, I am a
middle-income American earning $65,000, and I want my 5-percent tax
cut, or 7 or 10, you have to ask yourself if you qualify for a tax
credit or a refundable tax credit under this plan. There are all kinds
of reasons you might get some tax relief, but they are all going to
administered by the Internal Revenue Service.
Isn't that nice? So if you apply, and the IRS agrees, you get to use
your tax money. If you apply and if you fit, you get to use your
taxpayer dollars for a certain specified purpose.
The most significant difference in the two men's tax proposals is
that George W. Bush gives you a tax refund and you can spend it for
whatever you want. The Vice President, the nominee from the Democratic
Party, gives you no tax cut to spend as you may. Since it is your
money, you have to qualify as if you were under a Federal program.
Gore wants to imbed social policy of the country into the tax code.
We are substituting the Internal Revenue Service as the one that gets
to see whether or not you are going to be able to have these particular
services paid for by the Federal Government. I cannot believe when the
American people understand this that they are going to say they want
that tax approach.
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Let me repeat, in order to get all of the so-called Gore middle-class
tax cut, a family has to meet 25 different tests, at least one for each
of the 25 proposed pieces of the Gore Middle Class tax cut. That means
if you don't meet the tests, you don't get any relief, any help.
Wouldn't it be better to have a 5-percent or a 10-percent tax cut, and
you use the money as you see fit, if you are $67,000, a $72,000 family
or $35,000 or $40,000? You have to understand or try to understand and
then comply with 25 sets of rules before you see $1 of so-called tax
relief.
I thought tax policy was supposed to be neutral. The best tax policy
does not try to engineer social behavior. I didn't think it was
supposed to be the vehicle by which you ran scores of social programs
and you told Americans if you want that program, you can pay for it and
we will give you the money; but if you don't want that program, you
don't get any tax relief.
Gore proposes to substitute the Internal Revenue Service for a score
of Government programs. Instead of saying let's create a new federal
program in this area with Government, Al Gore says file a tax return,
and if you fit the cookie cutter profile, you can help your great
grandmother who is sick--you get some of your tax overpayment back to
help pay some of those expenses. The Government will help you. It will
not help you with a program, it will help you so that you will get a
piece of the taxes you pay refunded--or deducted.
This is not a step toward tax simplification. It will make the Tax
Code more complicated. If it is too complicated today, it will become
even more complicated. I think it would not take 3 or 4 years before
the American people will force us to throw it out. But I do not think
it will ever become law.
Some of the tax cuts are not even for taxpayers, much less for
middle-class Americans. Because of the income limits, many people who
think they are middle class are left totally out because they earn too
much money to pigeonholed into Al Gore's ``middle class,'' or to be
entitled to one of the myriad tax credits the Vice President suggests
is good tax policy.
A refundable tax credit is Tax Code talk for Government checks to
people who do not pay Federal income taxes. It sounds more like a way
to have some welfare spending and use the income tax code to administer
it. There is only one refundable credit in the code now, and many
believe it is one too many. But I do not believe almost all of the
entire surplus that is going to go to taxpayers ought to be done in
this way, with refundable tax credits going to people who pay no
federal income tax so long as the person does what the Vice President
thinks you ought to do with your money. Refundable child care credits,
refundable day care, refundable after school care--all specific and all
already covered in the Earned Income tax credit. You don't have to be a
taxpayer to get a so-called middle-income tax cut for child care,
family leave, or stay-at-home parents or kids in afterschool care, or
expanding the earned-income tax credit. More spending programs dressed
up as tax cuts will be there for those who do not pay any taxes.
In addition to refundable credits, the Vice President proposes
initiates that this Administration has vetoed. For instance, tuition
savings accounts are listed now as one of those things in the long list
of things that you might put your money away for and get some tax
relief. Al Gore says he would like to enact them. Interesting; this
administration vetoed that bill for them more than once.
The Vice President says he is for marriage penalty relief yet the
Administration vetoed the bill providing it. The Vice President's
proposal is curious. Let me say there is no marriage penalty relief if
you own your own home and pay a mortgage. Isn't that interesting? This
administration boasts record numbers of American homeowners. Yet, they
will not give a dollar of marriage tax penalty relief to people who own
homes and pay mortgages, again, using the Tax Code for social
approaches in the United States. Perhaps the reason for this one is
there are too many people who are building too many homes, and maybe we
ought to slow it down.
There is a tax credit for individual health insurance. Yet you get
part of the middle-income tax cut if you need additional training, or
certification programs. That is a separate notion in their Tax Code.
So, today, I would like to start a series of discussions which I will
bring to the floor regularly. The next one will be: What is the George
Bush tax plan. The next time I come, I will include in the Record the
entirety of Vice President Gore's so-called middle-income tax relief. I
will bring the entire list. You might say: Why are you bringing a list?
Isn't a middle-income tax cut just a percentage, just a cut?
No; it is myriad programs. If you do not qualify as having done one
of those, or choose to do one of them, you do not get tax credits nor
refundable tax credits. That is a very new way to run America.
We are going to expand those beyond recognition. The most significant
one we have now is the earned-income tax credit. It is refundable. A
lot of people who pay no federal income tax get a check from the
federal government under the Earned Income Tax Credit program. It is an
encouragement for low-income workers to work--although we have changed
that, where you do not have to work. But, just think, we have a few of
them. The entire middle-income tax proposal of the Vice President is
going to be specific things that specific Americans qualify for or they
do not get any tax relief.
Essentially, I am going to close saying the most significant aspect
of the Bush tax cut is that the 15-percent bracket is cut to 10. This
is a tax cut for taxpayers. That encompasses almost the entirety of the
tax cuts--15 percent at the bottom goes to 10. But, you see, everybody
at every bracket pays taxes on some of their income at the lowest
rate--15-percent bracket. So cutting the lowest rate helps all
taxpayers. It is very simple. You get it because of the tax bracket and
whatever other things are in the current Tax Code.
I repeat, there is much talk about the top 1 percent. The top 1
percent pays 33 percent of the taxes in America. When the Bush plan is
completed they will pay 34 percent of the total tax take of America.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Arizona is recognized for 10
minutes.
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