[Congressional Record Volume 146, Number 112 (Wednesday, September 20, 2000)]
[Senate]
[Pages S8782-S8787]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]
PRESCRIPTION DRUGS COST TOO MUCH
Mr. DORGAN. Mr. President, I want to talk today about the issue of
prescription drugs. Some of my colleagues have already talked about
this issue at some length. Let me add to that.
In January of this year, on a cold, snowy day, a group of North
Dakota
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senior citizens and I drove from North Dakota to Canada. It was not
much of a drive, as a matter of fact, from Pembina, ND, to Emerson,
Canada. We went to Canada to allow these senior citizens to purchase
prescription drugs in Emerson, because the same drug that is marketed
in Canada--in the same bottle, made by the same company--is sold in
most cases for a fraction of the price for which it is sold in the
United States.
I want to illustrate that, if I may. I ask unanimous consent to use,
on the floor of the Senate, two pill bottles. These bottles are for a
medicine called Zocor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. DORGAN. The bottles are slightly different, one is bigger than
the other, but Zocor is sold both in Canada and the United States.
Zocor is one of a number of cholesterol-lowering drugs. In fact, Dan
Reeves, coach of the Atlanta Falcons, has an advertisement saying he
takes a similar drug to lower his cholesterol following some heart
problems he had.
In any event, Zocor is an FDA-approved drug produced by the same
company, often in the same FDA-approved plant. Yet, this bottle of
Zocor is sold in Winnipeg, Canada, for $1.82 per caplet. But if you are
an American who is using Zocor to lower your cholesterol, you pay $3.82
per tablet. Again, if you buy it in Canada, it is $1.82 per tablet. But
in the United States, the same tablet, by the same company, is not
$1.82, but $3.82.
The Senate just finished yesterday a debate about normal trade
relations. This used to be called most-favored-nation status. Do you
know what the situation is with respect to prescription drug prices? We
have least-favored-customer status for the American consumer. Why do I
say this? Because prescription drug prices here are higher than
anywhere else in the world. Why should the American consumer pay prices
that are 10 times, or 5 times, or triple or double the price paid by
everyone else in the world for the same prescription drugs made in the
same plants by the same companies?
The answer is that U.S. consumers should not be least favored
consumers as they are forced to be by the pharmaceutical drug industry.
We can change that. How can we change it? We can change it by allowing
our pharmacists and our distributors to be able to access the same FDA-
approved prescription drug in Canada or in other countries--sold by the
same company and produced in an FDA-inspected plant--at a lower price
and pass the savings along to their customers. If we did that, the
pharmaceutical industry would be required to reprice their prescription
drugs in this country and reduce their prices.
I want to talk about Sylvia Miller. Sylvia Miller is one of the
senior citizens who went to Canada with me. She is from Fargo, ND. A
columnist in Fargo wrote a piece about Sylvia Miller. Let me just
acquaint you with Sylvia Miller by reading from this piece:
Sylvia Miller isn't one to complain, but few people would
blame her if she chose to complain just a little bit. . . .
Sylvia knows that life isn't always easy, that people
struggle with the lows and look forward to the highs. . . .
She's had her share of dark days in her 70 years of life on
this earth.
The 1980s were a pretty rough decade for her. She beat
breast cancer in 1981, then lung cancer eight years later.
She's a tough lady.
This article says she and her husband lived most of their lives in
Durbin and then moved to Fargo in 1987, after ``we were flooded out by
water coming cross country--the basement filled up nearly to the
ceiling.''
Sylvia went with me to Emerson, Canada, 5 miles across the border,
because she wanted to buy her prescription drugs at a better price.
This article says Sylvia is a pleasant person. I know that because I
know Sylvia. It also says she leads a disciplined life. She has to. She
has diabetes. She also has asthma, and she has a heart that could be
stronger. She tests her blood sugar level several times a day, eats
wisely and at the right times, and the article goes on to say she gives
herself shots four times a day, mixing three different insulins, uses
two different inhalers for lungs which function below normal capacity,
and she requires seven different prescription drugs every month. Last
year, she received $4,700 from Social Security, and her prescription
drug bill was more than $4,900. She says: Things don't quite add up, do
they?
On our trip to Canada, I stood with Sylvia and the others in this
little one-room drugstore in Emerson, Canada. The exact same
prescription drugs you can buy in this tiny drugstore are sold 5 miles
south, in Pembina, ND, or 120 miles south in Fargo, ND. The difference
is not in the pill--it is the same pill, same color, same shape, made
in the same plant, marketed by the same company. The difference? Price.
Americans are the least favored consumers. They pay the highest prices.
So a group of senior citizens who pay too much for prescription
drugs--such as Sylvia, who gets $4,700 on Social Security and has a
$4,900 prescription drug bill--are trying to get a better price for the
drugs they need to lead a good life by traveling to Canada.
These senior citizens should not have to load up in a van on a cold
winter morning and drive to Canada. The Customs Service will allow
individuals to bring back from Canada a small amount of prescription
drugs for their personal use. But there is a Federal law that says a
pharmacist from Grand Forks, ND, or Montana or Vermont, can't go to
Canada and access that same drug and come back and pass the savings
along to their customers. Federal law says you can't do that. We aim to
change that Federal law.
The Senate has already passed our proposal. Senator Jeffords, Senator
Gorton, Senator Wellstone and I, and a range of others have worked to
pass this plan in the Senate. Our proposal says: Let's allow U.S.
pharmacists and distributors to go to other countries and access the
identical prescription drugs, approved by the FDA, at a lower price,
bring them back, and pass the savings along to the American
consumer. Of course, if we get this plan signed into law, what will
happen is that the pharmaceutical industry will be required to reprice
these drugs in this country.
Now, guess what. The pharmaceutical industry is spending a fortune to
try to defeat this proposal. It is in a conference committee. I am one
of the conferees. The conference isn't even meeting. Why isn't it
meeting? Because people have heartburn over this proposal, and they
want to kill it.
The pharmaceutical industry said the 11 former Food and Drug
Administration Commissioners have come out in opposition to the
proposal. Well, yesterday, I showed a letter that we received from
David Kessler, the former Commissioner of the Food and Drug
Administration under Presidents Bush and Clinton. I want to tell my
colleagues what he says:
The Senate bill which allows only the importation of FDA
approved drugs, manufactured in approved FDA facilities, and
for which the chain of custody has been maintained, addresses
my fundamental concerns.
He is not opposing what we are trying to do. This is a former FDA
Commissioner.
Dr. Kessler says further:
I believe the importation of these products could be done
without causing a greater health risk to the American
consumers than currently exists.
We need to give the FDA some additional resources to make sure we do
not have counterfeit drugs imported. The pharmaceutical industry says
this is an issue of safety. It is not. Here is an FDA Commissioner who
says this can be done safely as long as you have safeguards. The
pharmaceutical industry says this debate is about safety. They know
better than that. It is about profits. Whose profits? Their profits.
Donna Shalala, who is the Secretary of Health and Human Services, has
also written us a letter. She has indicated she believes that the
Senate approach is an approach that can work. Secretary Shalala has
said: ``With respect to the three amendments now in conference''--one
of which is the Jeffords-Dorgan amendment I am talking about that was
passed by the Senate--``we believe the Jeffords amendment represents a
promising approach'' that can be effective if Congress provides new and
efficient resources--which we intend to do--to the FDA.
So the head of the Department of Health and Human Services says this
can be done safely as well, as long as we provide additional resources
to the FDA.
But, again, today, for those who are trying to kill this proposal, I
would like to offer another challenge. Of
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course, no one has ever accepted the challenge, but I am interested in
finding just one Member of Congress--one man or woman serving in the
Senate or in the House out of 535 of us--to stand up on the floor of
the Senate or House and say: I believe the American consumer should be
treated as the least favored consumer by the pharmaceutical industry. I
support that. I believe it, and I think we ought to leave it the way it
is.
I want one Member of Congress to stand up and say that. I want one
Member of Congress to stand up and say: With respect to Zocor, a
prescription drug to lower cholesterol, I believe that Americans ought
to have to pay $3.82 per tablet for the same medicine for which the
pharmaceutical industry will charge the Canadians only $1.82 per
tablet. A similar discount is provided to the Italians, the Germans,
and the English, and the Swedes, and the rest of the countries, because
the big drug companies are charging Americans the highest prices in the
world.
I am not asking for the Moon here. I am only asking for one Member of
Congress to stand up and support the pharmaceutical industry's pricing
policies. And no one will. Because they want to kill this under the
cover of darkness. They want to kill this by not having a conference,
and by dropping it during some closed meeting in some crevice of this
Capitol Building.
This is not an issue without names and faces and consequences. Sylvia
Miller went to Canada with me to purchase prescription drugs at a much
lower price, as did other senior citizens. But it ought not have to be
that way. There is no reason anybody ought to have to go anywhere else
in order to access the same prescription drug for half the price they
pay in the United States.
That is unfair to the U.S. consumer. We can change it. And we can
change it without compromising safety. We can change it, and should,
and will.
Let me mention a word about the prescription drug industry. I happen
to think we benefit mightily from much of what they do. When they
develop a new prescription drug, good for them. But much of the new
work in prescription drug development is coming from public investment
through the National Institutes of Health and elsewhere. We are making
substantial taxpayer-funded investments in research. Much of that
research is then taken by the pharmaceutical industry and used to
produce new medicines, for which they charge higher prices to the
American consumer than anyone else in the world. That is not fair.
I want the pharmaceutical industry to be profitable, but profiting in
ways that are unfair to the U.S. consumer should not be allowed.
The pharmaceutical industry has said--and incidentally, they have
sent people all around North Dakota to newspapers and TV stations with
this message--that if what Senator Dorgan wants to do gets done, there
will be less research done on new medicines.
Interesting point. The pharmaceutical industry spends more money for
research in Europe than it does in the United States, by just a bit. In
other words, more research is done by that industry in Europe than in
the United States. They say: If we charge less in the United States,
somehow we will do less research. Yet they charge less in Europe and do
more research there. And they charge more for prescription drugs in
this country than in any country in Europe and do slightly less
research. If their argument had any validity at all why is that the
case?
To those in the pharmaceutical industry, I understand that you have a
responsibility to your stockholders. I understand that. You have the
responsibility to earn a decent profit. I understand that. Yet the Wall
Street Journal says that the pharmaceutical industry has profits that
are ``the envy of the corporate world.''
We am not talking about price controls with the Senate proposal. We
are simply saying if the global economy is good for the pharmaceutical
industry--and every other industry in this world--then why is the
global economy not able to work for Sylvia Miller? Why can't Sylvia
Miller's pharmacist go to Winnipeg, Canada, and purchase Zocor, and
bring it back and sell it at a price that is much less than is now
charged in this country?
The pharmaceutical industry will say: Gee, some of these countries
have price controls. That is true. Some of these countries--many of
them--say: All you can charge for prescription drugs is your cost plus
a profit.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent for 3 additional minutes.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. DORGAN. Mr. President, one of the inconveniences of the global
economy is that you have advantages and disadvantages, and you have to
live with both. When you move products around in a global economy--and
the pharmaceutical industry certainly does--you get the advantages of
importing lower-priced compounds and chemicals with which to make
prescription drugs. So the big drug companies benefit from the global
economy. But one of the inconveniences of the global economy is that
the conditions that exist in the country you are purchasing from comes
with that product.
Today, if I were to go up to my colleagues--and I will not--and turn
over their necktie, I would find some of them are wearing a necktie
made in China. So I say to them: If you are wearing a necktie made in
China, governed by a Communist government, no doubt, when you purchased
the necktie, you were contributing to the salary of the Communist
leader of China. Do you feel comfortable with that necktie?
But, of course, no one set out to give comfort to any government
anywhere. They simply bought a necktie. That is why, when the
pharmaceutical industry says, ``if you are able to access the lower
priced drug in Canada, you are importing some sort of price controls,''
I say nonsense. All you are doing is taking advantage of the global
economy, the buying and selling of goods back and forth across borders.
Yes, it is inconvenient that some countries--in fact, many
countries--do have price controls. But if pharmacists were able to
access products in other countries at a lower price, why should they be
prevented from moving them into this country? The Senate plan would
allow this with complete safeguards, only for medicines that are
approved by the FDA, only those medicines that are manufactured in an
FDA-approved plant. Additional resources to the FDA would allow you to
make certain you are not moving counterfeit products in and out of this
country. With safeguards such as these in place, former FDA
Commissioner David Kessler, Health and Human Services Secretary Donna
Shalala, and others say it is perfectly appropriate and perfectly
acceptable to give consumers, such as Sylvia Miller, the opportunity to
have lower priced drugs in this country.
I will finish by asking this: Is there any Member of the House or
Senate who believes the U.S. consumer should be the least favored
consumer in international trade on prescription drugs? Does anybody
stand up in support of this? I fail to see one, in all my time
discussing this over the last year and a half, who will stand up and
say: Let me be the first to say I support the highest prices for
American consumers on prescription drugs. No one will do that because
they don't dare do it publicly. They understand how unfair this pricing
scheme is.
That is what Senator Jeffords and I, and Senators Gorton and
Wellstone and many others, are intending to change. The Senate has
passed our proposal by a wide margin. It is now in conference. Those
who have the strings to pull want to dump it and kill it by not having
a conference convened. I happen to be a conferee. I intend to be at a
conference at some point and fight for this proposal.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The time of the Senator has expired. Under the
previous order, the Senator from Illinois is recognized to speak for up
to 25 minutes.
Mr. DURBIN. Mr. President, I salute my colleague, the Senator from
North Dakota. He has been a leader on the issue of prescription drugs
and has challenged all of us to focus on an issue which most American
families understand completely.
They know what it costs to go to the pharmacy, if you are not lucky
enough to have good insurance. They know what it means when you go into
your local pharmacy and they tell you how much a drug costs and you
almost faint.
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They say: Wait a minute; don't you have some insurance coverage?
Well, yes, I think I do.
This happened to me recently in Springfield, IL. It ended up costing
me a fraction of what it would have cost. It was a prescription where I
had to think twice about whether I wanted to spend that kind of money
on it, if the insurance didn't cover it. But that was an option for me;
I am in pretty healthy shape. Imagine a person who is really struggling
to just survive, to stay healthy and strong, and the choices they have
to make when they have limited income.
What I am talking about is not an outrageous situation or an
outlandish idea. It happens every single day. It happens across
America. People, families across America, keep looking to Washington
and saying: Do you get it? Do you understand this? Do you care?
I have a quote one of my staff came up with that I thought was
apropos. It is very old. It goes back to 1913. President Woodrow Wilson
wrote it to a friend. He was venting his frustration because several
Democrats on the Senate Finance Committee were blocking something he
considered to be a high priority. He wrote:
Why should public men, Senators of the United States, have
to be led and stimulated to what all the country knows to be
their duty? Why should they see less clearly, apparently,
than anyone else, what the straight path to service is? To
whom are they listening? Certainly not to the voice of the
people when they quibble and twist and hesitate.
That is what this debate gets down to. Are the men and women elected
to the Senate and the House of Representatives really listening to the
people back home? If we were, would we be wasting a minute and not
dealing with the prescription drug benefits people need to survive?
Yet when we take a look at what has been proposed, they are
dramatically different, the two major proposals coming from the two
major candidates for President. The one that comes from Al Gore and Joe
Lieberman on the Democratic side suggests to treat the prescription
drug benefit as a Medicare benefit; to say, yes, it is available to
every American. It is universal. It is an option which every American
can take, and we will protect you under Medicare. You will know that
there is a limit to your out-of-pocket expenses. It is simple. It is
straightforward. It is consistent with the Medicare program that has
been around for over 40 years.
Frankly, there are some people who don't care for it. The drug
companies don't care for it. They are making very generous profits
every single year, and they know if all of the people under Medicare
came together and bargained with them on drug prices and drug costs,
their profits may go down. That is why they resist it. That is why this
special interest group has been so good at stopping this Congress from
doing what the American people want done. Their profits come
first, unfortunately, in the Senate--not the people in this country,
not the families struggling to pay the bills.
On the other side, they make a proposal which sounds good but just
will not work. Under Governor Bush's proposal on prescription drugs, he
asserts, for 4 years we will let the States handle it. There are fewer
than 20 States that have any drug benefits. Illinois is one of them, I
might add. His home State of Texas has none. But he says: Let the
States handle it for 4 years; let them work it out.
In my home State of Illinois, I am glad we have it. But it certainly
isn't a system that one would recommend for the country. Our system of
helping to pay for prescription drugs for seniors applies to certain
illnesses and certain drugs. If you happen to be an unfortunate person
without that kind of coverage and protection, you are on your own. That
is hardly a system for America.
It is far better to take the approach which has been suggested by Mr.
Gore and Mr. Lieberman, to have a universal plan that applies to
everyone. Let's not say that a person's health and survival depends on
the luck of the zip code, where you happen to live, whether your State
is generous or not. I don't think that makes sense in America. I think
we are better than that.
We proved it with Medicare. We didn't say under Medicare: We will let
every single State come up with a health insurance plan for seniors. We
said: We will have an American plan, a national plan, and every single
American--Hawaii, Alaska, and the lower 48--everyone who can benefit
from it gets the same shot at quality health care. And it worked. The
critics said, in the 1960s; that is big government; that is socialism,
Medicare will be the end of health care as we know it in America.
``Socialized medicine,'' they called it.
Wrong, completely wrong. Ask the people in the hospitals and the
doctors today what Medicare has meant. It has meant they are able to
give the elderly in America quality health care. Just take a look at
the raw statistics. Seniors are living longer today than they did in
the 1960s. They are healthier. A lot of good things have come from
Medicare.
We believe the same standard should be applied when it comes to
prescription drugs. Let us base this on the Medicare system. If you
doubt for a moment that this is a serious problem, I wish you would go
to your local pharmacy and ask your pharmacist. When I held hearings
across Illinois, I brought in doctors and pharmacists and seniors to
talk about this issue. The people who were the most adamant about the
need for reform were the pharmacists, the men and women in the white
coats behind the counter who get the prescriptions from the doctor and
try to fill them for the patient and have to face the reality of the
cost. Those are the men and women who know every single day that there
are seniors who are not filling prescriptions, taking half of what they
are supposed to, ignoring the request and, frankly, the best advice of
their doctors because they cannot afford otherwise.
Here we stand in the Senate, 7 weeks away from a national election,
an election where the American people say a prescription drug benefit
is the highest health care priority, and we are not prepared to do
anything. Is it any wonder that people looking at the Congress of the
United States wonder whether we are paying attention to the reality of
life for families across this country? When people can go across the
border into Canada and buy the same exact drug sold in the United
States, made in the same laboratory, subject to the same FDA
inspection, for a fraction of the cost, how in the world can we stand
here and say there is nothing we can do about it? There is something we
can do about it. There is something we must do about it.
This election is a referendum on whether this Congress has the will
to respond to families in need. A lady in Chicago, IL, received a
double lung transplant. What a miracle.
Years ago, that was unthinkable. Now it is possible. It works. She
stood before me and looked good several years after it occurred. But
she said:
Senator, it cost me $2,500 a month for the
immunosuppressive drugs to stay alive. I cannot afford it. So
what I have done, frankly, is to give up everything I have on
earth and move into my son's home, where I live in the
basement. I asked for Medicaid at the Department of Public
Aid in Illinois and for the money to pay for my prescription
drugs each month. I fill out the forms every month to try to
make sure I qualify for the drugs.
She said:
Senator, one month I missed it. I didn't get the paperwork
back in time. For one month, I didn't take the drugs and I
was worried sick. I went back to the doctor after that month
and he said, ``Don't ever let that happen again. You had
irreversible lung damage that occurred during that one-month
period of time.''
Think about the burden on that poor lady's shoulders. How many of us
dream of being dependent on our children in our elderly and late years?
None of us wants that. Many times my mother has said to me, ``I don't
want to be a burden.''
That woman is living in the basement of her kid's home. She has no
place to turn and is wondering if she can get the paperwork in on time
to qualify for Medicaid. Missing that opportunity, she could lose the
chance for the miracle of two new lungs that gave her new life, losing
the chance for that miracle to continue.
That is the reality of what is happening. Hers is the most extreme
case, and I remember it because of that. But as I went across my State,
people said: Senator, I get $800 a month from Social Security and it
costs me $400 a month for prescription drugs. I don't have any
insurance to cover that.
A third of the seniors in this country have no insurance protection
whatsoever; a third have poor protection, and
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a third are lucky because they worked in the right place and had the
right retirement. They are covered and protected. When you hear stories
and you come back to Washington, you think: Why are we here? The men
and women here are supposed to be here to respond to the real needs of
America's families. Yet in this case, and in so many others, this
Congress has come up empty. Missed opportunity after missed
opportunity.
Let me suggest another thing to you. One thing I have noticed as I
visited families in my State of Illinois is that they talk about their
children. They will brag about how good they are at playing soccer or
playing the piano or getting good grades. But then there will be a
pause, a hesitation, and they say: I wonder how we are ever going to
pay for that college education. I hear that over and over. New parents
with a little baby might say: He looks like his dad and he is sleeping
all night, but how in the world are we going to pay for this kid's
college?
That is a real concern. The people know the cost of a college
education has gone up dramatically. We did a survey in Illinois of
community colleges, private colleges, and public universities. Over a
20-year period of time, when a child might consider being in college 20
years later, what happened to the cost of tuition and fees at
universities and colleges in my home State of Illinois? They have gone
up over 250 percent and, in some cases, over 400 percent. So even if
you think you are putting enough money away today to cover what is
already a high cost of education, quadruple that cost and you are
dealing with the reality of what that could cost in years to come.
So families say to me as a Senator and to those of us serving in
Congress: Do you hear us? Do you understand it? You tell us that
education is good for our kids and for our country. What are you doing
in Washington to help us out, to give us a helping hand?
The honest answer is: Absolutely nothing. There is something we can
do. Senator Chuck Schumer, my deskmate here from the State of New York,
and Senator Joe Biden of Delaware, have been pushing for a plan that I
think makes a lot of sense. It is a plan the Democrats are proposing as
part of this Presidential campaign. It is very simple and
straightforward. It says that you can take the cost of college tuition
and fees and deduct them from your income. What it means is that up to
$12,000 of tuition and fees can be deducted. For a family, that means
they are going to have a helping hand of around $3,000 each year to pay
for it. I wish it were more, but it is certainly a helping hand.
When I went to Rockford College in Rockford, IL, I said: What did the
average student graduate with in terms of debt? They said it was about
$20,000. That is a lot of money when you are first out of college. Yet
if the deductibility of college expenses were part of the law in
America, that student would be walking out with a debt of $5,000 or
$6,000 instead of $20,000.
Wouldn't that be good for this country and for that family? Doesn't
it give that young man or woman the right opportunity to make a choice
of a job or a graduate education? I can't tell you how many young
people I ran into who said: Because of my college debts, I had to take
the best-paying job. I really want to be a teacher, but they don't pay
enough. I got a chance to go with a dot-com and make a zillion, so I
had to do that.
We lost something there. We lost a potential teacher, someone who
wanted to put his or her life into teaching others, but decided,
because of the finances, to postpone it or never do it. That is
reality.
If we look at that reality, the question is, What does Congress do to
respond? Instead of coming up with tax relief for middle-income
families to pay for college education expenses, the only tax relief
bills we have come up with is for the wealthiest people--the so-called
elimination of the death tax and the elimination of the marriage
penalty tax. When you lift the lid and look inside, it ends up giving
over 40 percent of the benefits to people making over $300,000 a year.
Excuse me, but if I am making $25,000 a month in income, how much of a
tax break do I need? My life is pretty good, thank you. And thank you,
America, for giving me the opportunity to have it. I don't need a tax
break from this Congress.
But the families struggling to pay for college education expenses
deserve a tax break. If we really believe that the 21st century should
be the American century, we need to invest not only in helping families
put their kids through college, but in helping workers who realize that
additional skills give them greater earning potential, the chance to
get that training and education. Sometimes that costs money. If it is
going to cost money and tuition and fees, they, too, should be able to
deduct it. Lifetime learning, lifelong learning is a reality today if
you want to be successful. You can't step back.
When I went into my Senate office representing Illinois 4 years ago
and put the computer on my desk, believe me, I am not of an age where I
am a computer wizard, but I am learning. I realize I have to learn to
keep up with this technology because it makes me more effective and
efficient. Everybody is learning that lesson, whether you are in a
classroom or a workplace, and the people who want to prosper from that
experience and want to make their lives better sometimes need
additional training. So when we talk about the deductibility of these
expenses for lifelong learning and for college education, we are
talking about people setting out to improve themselves. It is not a
handout. These people are asking for an opportunity to be educated and
trained and skilled.
One of the bills we are going to debate this week is the H-1B visa.
You may not know what the term means, but basically it is a question as
to how many people we will allow to immigrate into the U.S. to take
highly paid, unfilled jobs--jobs that require skills America's
employers say they can't find in the American workforce. Well, it is a
real problem. I think we need to have an expansion of the H-1B visa to
allow people to come in from overseas to fill these jobs so American
companies will stay in America, so that they will continue to prosper,
pay their taxes, profit by their ventures, and I think we can help
them.
But what a commentary on our workforce and our education system that
we continue to have to look overseas not for what used to be the brute
force of labor coming to build railroads and towns, but now they are
the most skilled people in the world. So if we say we are going to
allow more people to come into this country to fill the highly skilled
jobs, don't we have a similar responsibility to the people and families
of this country to explain how, the next time around, there will be
Americans skilled to fill these jobs? I think that is part of the
debate. Yet you won't hear much about it on the floor of this Senate.
We don't talk about education much here.
Some of my colleagues want to dismiss it as a State and local issue,
that the Federal Government has little or nothing to do with that. I
disagree. We should be giving tax relief to families to pay for higher
education and even more. When you look at the schools in America, there
are genuine needs. I think everybody who has raised a family, as my
wife and I have, appreciates that the more kids you have in the room,
the tougher it is to manage it. A teacher with 30 kids in a classroom
has her hands full. We have to talk about lower class sizes, smaller
classes with more individual attention.
On the Democratic side, we have proposed 100,000 new teachers who
will go into classrooms. Schools are growing and the population is
getting larger, and 100,000 teachers will cut back on the number of
kids in a classroom and give a teacher a better chance to teach.
A teacher came up to me at O'Hare Airport in Chicago and said: I
teach on the south side of Chicago. We qualified for the Federal
program to have smaller classrooms. Thank you, Senator. It is working.
Those kids are getting a better education.
I don't deserve the credit. It wasn't my idea. But I happen to
support it. We should support more of it. We are not even discussing
education on the floor of the Senate. We are talking about H-1B visas
to bring in more skilled employees from overseas. And we are not
talking about educating and training our kids in the next generation to
fill those jobs. We have lost it in this debate. Somehow we are
consumed with things that other people think are much more important. I
can't think of
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anything more important than education. Health care for prescription
drugs and education so kids have a better chance for their future makes
all the sense in the world.
While we are talking about a better future, let me also address the
10 million Americans who got up to go to work and went to work this
morning, and who go to work every single morning, not looking for a
government check but for a paycheck at the end of the week where they
are paid $5.15 an hour. That is the minimum wage in this country, and
it has been stuck there for over 2 years. Why? Because this Congress
refuses to give some of the hardest working people in America an
increase in the minimum wage. These are people who get up and go to
work every day, who are waiting on tables in the restaurants, and who
make the beds in the hotels. They are the day-care workers to whom we
entrust our children, they are people working in nursing homes watching
our parents and grandparents, and we refuse to give them an increase in
the minimum wage.
For decades in this Capitol, this was not a partisan issue. From the
time Franklin Roosevelt created the minimum wage until the election of
Ronald Reagan, it was a bipartisan undertaking. We raise this wage
periodically so people can keep up with the cost of living in this
country. But, sadly, it has become a partisan issue.
While we fight on the Democratic side to give 10 million Americans an
increase in the minimum wage, we are resisted on the other side of the
aisle. They don't want to see these increases. Sadly, it means that
people who are struggling to get by with $10,000 or $11,000 a year--
and, frankly, have to turn to the Government for food stamps and look
to other sources and more jobs--many of those people are single parents
raising their kids, working at jobs with limited pay and limited
requirements for skills, trying to do their level best. We have refused
time and time again to increase the minimum wage in this country. That
is a sad commentary on this Congress.
I also want to comment on the reality that we will be increasing
congressional pay this year, as we have with some frequency, to reflect
the cost-of-living adjustment. I think that is fair. But doesn't
fairness require that we give the same consideration to people who are
working for $5.15 an hour? I hope my colleagues, Senate Democrats and
Republicans alike, will share my belief that this is something that
absolutely needs to be done.
Whether we are talking about health care or prescription drugs and
fairness in paying people for what they work for, there is an agenda
that has gone unfilled in this Congress. It is an agenda which has been
ignored and about which the American people have a right to ask us to
do something.
I can tell you that as we talk about the future of this country and
its economy, we are all applauding the fact that we have had the
longest period of economic expansion in our history. We have had 22
million new jobs created during the Clinton-Gore administration. There
is more home ownership than anytime in our history. There are more
small businesses being created, particularly women-owned small
businesses, across America. We have seen our welfare rolls going down.
The incidence of violent crime is going down. We have seen an expansion
of opportunity in this country that has been unparalleled. But if we
sit back and want to rest on our accomplishments and our laurels, the
American people have a right to throw all of us out of office. Our
responsibility is to look ahead and say we can do better to improve
this country and make it better for our children and grandchildren.
This Congress has refused to look ahead. It has refused to say how we
can expand health care so that over 40 million Americans without any
health insurance will have a chance to get the basic quality health
care on which all of us insist for ourselves and our family.
This Congress has refused to address the prescription drug needs of
families across America at a time of unparalleled prosperity in these
United States.
This Congress has refused to look to the need of education when we
know full well that the benefits of our economy can only accrue to
those who are prepared to use them and who are prepared to compete in a
global economy.
Yesterday, by an overwhelming vote, we voted for permanent normal
trade relations with China. I voted for that. It was 83-15. It was a
substantially bipartisan rollcall. We said that country, which
represents one-fifth of the world's population, is a market we need. I
hope when the President signs the bill we will begin to see an opening
of that market for our farmers and our businesses. But we will only be
as good in the global economy as we are in terms of the skill and
education of America's workers.
We know full well that there will always be some country in the
world--if not China, some other country--that will pay a worker 5 cents
an hour and they will take it. We also know that those workers have
limited education and limited skills, perhaps doing a manual labor job.
And those jobs are always going to be cheaper overseas; that is a fact
of life.
But if we are going to prosper in America from a global economy, we
have to bring our workforce beyond manual labor, beyond basic skills,
and that means investing in our people. It is important to have the
very best technology, but it is even more important to have the very
best skilled people working in the workplace. We happen to think if we
are going to keep this economy moving forward, we need to make certain
we don't do anything that is going to derail the economy.
We have seen some suggestions--for example, Governor Bush and some of
his Republican friends in the Senate who have suggested over a $1
trillion tax cut that they want to see over the next 10 years. They
have suggested we change the Social Security system.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The time of the Senator has expired.
Mr. DURBIN. I yield the floor.
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