[Congressional Record Volume 146, Number 96 (Friday, July 21, 2000)]
[Senate]
[Pages S7424-S7426]
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UNANIMOUS CONSENT REQUEST--H.R. 4733
Mr. LOTT. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the Senate now
proceed to the consideration of H.R. 4733, the energy and water
appropriations bill. I further ask that the committee substitute be
agreed to and the substitute be considered original text for the
purpose of further amendment, with no points of order waived.
I further ask consent that if a motion to strike section 103 is
offered, the motion to strike be limited to 3 hours to be equally
divided in the usual form, and a vote occur on the motion to strike
following the use or yielding back of time, without any intervening
action, motion, or debate.
I further ask consent that any votes ordered with respect to this
bill, either on amendments or final passage, be stacked to occur at 6
p.m. on Monday, July 24.
I observe that both managers of the appropriations bill for energy
and water are present and ready to proceed, and therefore I submit that
unanimous consent request.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection?
Mr. REID. Reserving the right to object, as has been stated here--and
there has been a conversation between Senator Bond from Missouri and
the Senator from Nevada--we are willing to move forward on this
legislation. There is one provision in it that is offensive to a
significant number of Senators. If that were taken out, and there were
no amendment offered on the floor, we would be ready to move forward
with that. I have spoken to Senator Domenici on many occasions. I think
we could finish this bill quite rapidly.
Based on that, Mr. President, unless my friend from New Mexico has a
statement, I object.
Mr. DOMENICI. Could I make a statement?
Mr. REID. I extend my reservation for the Senator from New Mexico to
speak.
Mr. DOMENICI. Mr. President and fellow Senators, first, I thank the
distinguished majority leader for the effort he has just made. This is
a very good bill and very important to America. It contains all of the
nuclear weapons funding, some very important money for the enhanced
security apparatus for the National Laboratories that we have all been
concerned about. It contains about $100 million to build some of our
old, decrepit nuclear manufacturing facilities which are still being
used for parts in other things and are held in abeyance in case they
are needed.
We have a report saying they are in desperate shape. We have a report
that some of the facilities we are trying to maintain in the State of
Nevada--that are still there from the underground testing--need to be
fixed up because they will not be in a position of readiness.
We have hundreds of water projects in this bill for Senators. And we
wait
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to go to conference to even fill in some more.
Oh, let me talk about the Missouri conflict. I am not aware of the
substance of it, but when the distinguished Senator from Nevada says
there are quite a few Senators who are concerned on your side, let me
suggest that there are more than quite a few Senators who are worried
on the other side--and they are here, and they are there--as to who is
being impacted.
I hope at some point they would let us fight that issue out. We would
be willing to have a full debate on it, if the minority leader will let
us. He is a wonderful and hard-working minority leader who tries to put
things together. We all agree with that. But in this instance, these
provisions have been in three previous bills that I have brought to the
floor with my good friend, Senator Reid. They have been in there and
signed by the President of the United States.
To take a bill we worked on diligently, that contains all of these
important issues I have just discussed, and say we can't get it done--I
see the minority leader. I just said I have great respect for
everything he does in the Senate. I just want to make sure that
everybody understands, this is a very important bill. We ought to get
it done and go to conference. We need some additional resources to get
the job done on the water side and other aspects, but we will get a
good bill completed. I hope we are not in a position where we will
never get this bill.
If the Senator insists that it go his way, I think we won't get a
bill. I hope at some point he will let us vote, I say to the minority
leader. I have told him before and I confirm, I put the language in
three times that is in this bill. The President signed it. I would very
much like to move ahead. I am not trying to put any untoward pressure
on anyone, just to state the problem that I see in not moving ahead.
Mr. LOTT. Mr. President, if the distinguished assistant minority
leader will yield to me under his reservation, I will be brief. Then
under his reservation or on his own, Senator Daschle may want to
comment.
What I have asked is consent that we go to the energy and water bill,
and I asked consent that if a motion to strike section 103 is offered,
the motion to strike be limited to 3 hours to be equally divided in the
usual form, and we would go to a vote.
Under Senator Reid's reservation, if I could respond to two points:
One, in addition to the very important energy aspects of this
legislation that have been mentioned, I will focus on the water side.
So much of America benefits from our water and our water projects,
whether it is navigation or recreation, flood control. These are not
just projects that individual Members want to get for their particular
district for political benefit. They have a lot to do with the economy
of this country, the creation of jobs and the lifestyle in America.
This is an important bill both on the energy and water side. I know
both sides want to get it done. I have absolutely no doubt about that.
I know the managers of this legislation, Senator Domenici and Senator
Reid, are probably two of the best we have in the Senate. It would
probably look as though magic had been performed, how quickly this bill
could be completed.
The issue we are talking about is a very difficult one with which to
cope. It has been in the mill a long time. I know there are very strong
beliefs on both sides of the issue, probably on both sides of the
aisle. I hope we will continue to work to see if we can't find a way to
deal with this issue in a way that is fair. My thinking is under an
agreement to try to take it out with a time limit; that is fine, or an
agreement to try to take it out and then put it back in with a time
agreement; that is fine. We are looking for any possible solution. I
hope we will find a solution in the next few minutes or next couple
hours today.
If we can't, then I am already looking, I say to Senator Daschle, to
see if we can get managers available and try to proceed to the
Treasury-Postal Service appropriations bill Monday afternoon, see if we
can make progress on that. I don't know of any big controversy on that
one. Of course, it funds the Treasury. It also funds the Postal
Service, and it funds White House operations. Hopefully, we could look
to that as an alternative. I would rather do energy and water. I would
like to do them both so we can get them into conference and so progress
can be made next week and they will be hopefully ready to go to the
President soon after that.
I thank Senator Reid for allowing me to speak under his reservation.
I will withhold if Senator Daschle wants to respond or comment under
reservation, too.
Mr. DASCHLE. Mr. President, who has the floor?
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The majority leader has the floor. There has
not been an objection filed yet.
Mr. LOTT. I have the floor and I propounded a unanimous consent
request, if the Senator would like to respond under a reservation.
Mr. DASCHLE. Mr. President, reserving the right to object, let me
respond to the distinguished majority leader. I thank my colleague, as
I always must, the assistant Democratic leader, for being on the floor.
I was not aware that a unanimous consent request was going to be
propounded. I was downstairs. I am disappointed I was not able to be
here at the time.
Let me very succinctly explain the circumstances. In the past, there
has not been any real concern about revising the master manual. The
master manual was written by the Corps of Engineers in 1960. It has
been the law of the land with regard to the operation of the river
since that time, now 40 years. There has been an effort underway in
earnest over the course of this last year to look for ways that more
accurately reflect how the Missouri River ought to be managed, taking
into account, now, the extraordinary relevance of fish and wildlife
issues.
Economically, the fish, wildlife and recreational benefits of the
river now constitute over $80 million. Navigation constitutes $7
million. In economic wherewithal, that is what the reality is today: $7
million for navigation, over $80 million for fish, wildlife and
recreation. Yet the master manual is written in a way that only
recognizes the navigational issues because that is all there was in
1960 when this was written.
The Corps is now looking for a way to provide better balance. I think
there is a compromise that more and more States are becoming more
comfortable with. But what this provision in this bill says is they
can't even consider it. Now that all this work and effort has gone into
considering ways in which to accommodate all the States, the provision
says we won't even consider it.
I have to use my prerogatives as a Senator to say that we must find a
compromise on that language. We are not going to be able to do it with
one vote on a Friday or a Monday afternoon, so I would like to work
with the leader. I told him I would like to find a way to resolve this
matter. He said, we are looking at, we will take any option. I
suggested one to the leader: Let's go to conference on this provision.
I am willing to live with whatever the conference decides. Of course,
the administration is going to weigh in. They said it will be vetoed if
this provision is in there. So if we are going to get this bill done,
let's be realistic.
I want to get this bill done. I have as many things in this bill as I
have in any appropriations bill. I want to get it done. I would like to
get it done this afternoon, and I am willing to let the conference make
its decision. But to say that the bill must have that provision or
there is no bill, is just not fair to this side, to this Senator.
That is my reservation. If the Senator from Nevada has not objected,
I will. I think it is important to resolve this matter. I am prepared
to offer a compromise. Let's resolve this in conference. I say that in
full recognition that I have no idea what would happen in conference.
But if they want to finish this bill and move it to the next phase, I
am ready to do it. I will do it this morning. I will do it this
afternoon. I will do it on Monday. But we have to deal with that
provision.
Having objected, I thank the majority leader for yielding.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Objection is heard.
The majority leader.
Mr. LOTT. Mr. President, let me say to the distinguished minority
leader and to Senator Domenici and Senator Reid, we will continue to
work. I have learned from experience working on both sides of the
aisle, if everybody
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just hunkers down and says no, this way or no way, you don't ever get
anything. I will continue to probe and work with Senator Daschle,
Senator Reid, and Senator Domenici, to see if we can find a way to
resolve this problem. I think perhaps we can. We will be talking
further. I want to make sure we have on record that we are trying to
get it done, and we will hopefully come back here in another hour or
two and try again.
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