[Congressional Record Volume 146, Number 90 (Thursday, July 13, 2000)]
[Senate]
[Pages S6586-S6591]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]
DEATH TAX ELIMINATION ACT--Continued
Mr. REID. Mr. President, I yield the Senator from New York whatever
time he may consume of the 2 hours.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from New York.
Amendment No. 3821
Mr. MOYNIHAN. Mr. President, I rise for the purpose of offering an
amendment in the nature of a substitute. I send the amendment to the
desk and ask for its immediate consideration.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will report.
The legislative clerk read as follows:
The Senator from New York [Mr. Moynihan] proposes an
amendment numbered 3821.
Mr. MOYNIHAN. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that reading of
the amendment be dispensed with.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
The amendment is as follows:
(Purpose: To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to increase the
unified credit exemption and the qualified family-owned business
interest deduction, and for other purposes)
Strike all after the first word and insert:
1. SHORT TITLE.
(a) Short Title.--This Act may be cited as the ``Estate Tax
Relief Act of 2000''.
(b) Amendment of 1986 Code.--Except as otherwise expressly
provided, whenever in this Act an amendment or repeal is
expressed in terms of an amendment to, or repeal of, a
section or other provision, the reference shall be considered
to be made to a section or other provision of the Internal
Revenue Code of 1986.
SEC. 2. INCREASE IN AMOUNT OF UNIFIED CREDIT AGAINST ESTATE
AND GIFT TAXES.
(a) In General.--The table contained in section 2010(c)
(relating to applicable credit amount) is amended to read as
follows:
``In the case of estates of decedents dying, aThe applicable amount is:
2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, and 2005......................$1,000,000
2006 and 2007.........................................$1,125,000
2008..................................................$1,500,000
2009 or thereafter..................................$2,000,000.''
(b) Effective Date.--The amendment made by this section
shall apply to the estates of decedents dying, and gifts
made, after December 31, 2000.
SEC. 3. INCREASE IN QUALIFIED FAMILY-OWNED BUSINESS INTEREST
DEDUCTION AMOUNT.
(a) In General.--Paragraph (2) of section 2057(a) (relating
to family-owned business interests) is amended to read as
follows:
``(2) Maximum deduction.--
``(A) In general.--The deduction allowed by this section
shall not exceed the sum of--
``(i) the applicable deduction amount, plus
``(ii) in the case of a decedent described in subparagraph
(C), the applicable unused spousal deduction amount.
``(B) Applicable deduction amount.--For purposes of this
subparagraph (A)(i), the applicable deduction amount is
determined in accordance with the following table:
``In the case of estates of decedentThe applicable deduction amount is:
2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, and 2005.......................$1,375,000
2006 and 2007..........................................$1,625,000
2008...................................................$2,375,000
2009 or thereafter....................................$3,375,000.
``(C) Applicable unused spousal deduction amount.--With
respect to a decedent whose immediately predeceased spouse
died after December 31, 2000, and the estate of such
immediately predeceased spouse met the requirements of
subsection (b)(1), the applicable unused spousal deduction
amount for such decedent is equal to the excess of--
``(i) the applicable deduction amount allowable under this
section to the estate of such immediately predeceased spouse,
over
``(ii) the sum of--
``(I) the applicable deduction amount allowed under this
section to the estate of such immediately predeceased spouse,
plus
``(II) the amount of any increase in such estate's unified
credit under paragraph (3)(B) which was allowed to such
estate.''
(b) Conforming Amendments.--Section 2057(a)(3)(B) is
amended--
(1) by striking ``$675,000'' both places it appears and
inserting ``the applicable deduction amount'', and
(2) by striking ``$675,000'' in the heading and inserting
``applicable deduction amount''.
(c) Effective Date.--The amendment made by this section
shall apply to the estates of decedents dying, and gifts
made, after December 31, 2000.
SEC. 4. SENSE OF SENATE REGARDING SAVINGS.
It is the sense of the Senate that the reduced cost to the
Federal Treasury resulting from the amendments made by this
Act as compared to the cost to the Federal Treasury of H.R. 8
as received by the Senate from the House of Representatives
on June 12, 2000, should be used exclusively to reduce the
Federal debt held by the public.
Amend the title so as to read: ``An Act to amend the
Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to increase the unified credit
exemption and the qualified family-owned business interest
deduction, and for other purposes.''
Mr. MOYNIHAN. Mr. President, a little background. In 1906, President
Theodore Roosevelt sent a proposal to Congress to impose an estate tax.
He justified the measure as follows. He said:
A heavy progressive tax upon a very large fortune is in no
way a tax upon thrift or industry as a like tax would be on a
small fortune. No advantage comes either to the country as a
whole or to the individuals inheriting the money by
permitting the transmission in their entirety of the enormous
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fortunes which would be affected by such a tax; and as an
incident to its function of revenue raising, such a tax would
help preserve a measurable equality of opportunity for the
people of the generations growing to manhood.
That is why we have an estate tax today. Congress had imposed such
taxes in the 1800s, generally to fund wars, and indeed we had an income
tax during the Civil War. When the need for such revenues eased, why
these taxes, including the estate tax, were put aside. Theodore
Roosevelt championed the enactment, on a number of times, of the
measure that is in the code today. Over the years, the number of
taxable estates, estate returns as a percentage of total deaths, has
fluctuated, but not very much, from under 1 percent in 1935--which is
the very depths of the depression of that decade--to a high of almost 8
percent in 1977, when we changed the tax to bring it back down. And the
number of taxable estates today ranges between 1 percent and 2 percent,
a level not that different from that of the depths of the depression.
If we make no changes to the tax rules in 2006, the percentage of
taxable estates is projected to be lower than today because we raised
the limit. The Joint Tax Committee projects that 1.82 percent of
estates will be subject to tax. We are still within that very low
historic level, that was run up after World War II, and which we
brought back down in 1977. It is not a principal source of Federal
revenue. I think it generated $24 billion in 1998, which was 1.4
percent of Federal revenues. Absent change, it might rise to $42
billion in 2008--not even a doubling in 10 years.
The bill before the Senate, H.R. 8, the Death Tax Elimination Act,
would repeal the tax in the year 2010. It moves about during the next
10 years, but then it stops altogether, at which point we deal with a
revenue loss of $50 billion a year. Mr. President, $50 billion, even in
this momentary glow of surpluses, is a large amount of money. That is
half a trillion dollars in a decade. It is much more than we should
ever give away before we see whether the surplus we are projecting will
actually occur, and indeed for the social reasons that Theodore
Roosevelt spoke about at the beginning of the century.
The Federal Government is not the only government that would be
impacted by the legislation that has been sent us from the House. The
estate tax provides revenue for our State governments as well. Under
our Federal estate tax laws, States may enact an estate tax without
increasing taxes on decedents' estates or their heirs. This is because
the Internal Revenue Code provides a dollar-for-dollar reduction in
Federal estate tax liability for each dollar collected by the State, up
to certain limits. Almost every State has enacted such legislation, and
States collect about one-quarter of all estate taxes. The Treasury
Department reports that in 1997, the States collected $4.3 billion in
estate taxes while the Federal Government collected $16.6 billion.
Repeal of the estate tax would eliminate this source of revenue for
State governments. They have not been consulted in the matter, but I
cannot imagine they would be enthusiastic.
Finally, we on the Senate Democratic side are concerned about the
adverse effect the repeal could have on charitable contributions. We
cannot be sure of it, but the Joint Tax Committee estimates that
estates are expected to contribute $330 billion to charities over the
next 10 years, a third of a trillion dollars.
The question of how much of these contributions would continue or
what portion would disappear if we abolish this tax altogether cannot
be stated with any confidence, but it is the large estates that
contributed the bulk of the $330 billion; $190 billion comes from
estates with values over $10 million. We know this as we look around us
at the great foundations, some of which date from earlier in the
century but others of which reflect the accumulation of wealth in new
economic activities in our age, and the estate tax surely has an
influence. It should not be the principal concern for us, but it is a
fact of our society.
Accordingly, we propose a modification of the existing program whilst
retaining the essential legislative measure. We can describe it in two
numbers: $2 million and $4 million. Under our amendment, no estate with
assets under $2 million would be subject to estate tax. No estate with
a family-owned business or farm valued at less than $4 million would be
subject to estate tax.
There are very few farms that could be described with even a measure
of exaggeration as a family farm worth more than $4 million. New York
State is a farming State. It always has been. Ray Christensen, the
Special Assistant with the Department of Agriculture and Markets,
estimates that our farms sell in the range of about $257,000. I cannot
imagine those in Pennsylvania, just over our border, would be very
different. They are nowhere near $4 million. I cannot imagine there is
such a place, save a nominal farm kept for recreational purposes on the
eastern end of Long Island or in the Hudson Valley.
Our proposal would increase the general exemption, which is
applicable to all estates, to $1 million immediately--it is $675,000
today--and to $2 million by the year 2009. This would eliminate two-
thirds of the approximately 50,000 estates currently subject to tax. In
addition, our proposal would increase the exemption for family farms
and family-owned businesses from $1.3 million to $2 million immediately
and to $4 million by 2009. Our increase would eliminate the estate tax
on virtually all family farms and 75 percent of the family-owned
businesses.
The measure is costly but not extravagantly so. It costs $65 billion
over 10 years, compared to $105 billion under the House proposal, which
we have before us. This bill, as I said earlier this week--and I repeat
to my esteemed friend, our chairman--should have been referred to the
Finance Committee. It was not. The Senate will learn to its cost one
day that the Finance Committee has jurisdiction over these matters
because we have some competence in them, and not for nothing, for
example, did we bring about the 1977 measures--I was then a member of
the committee--to lower the estate tax which had commenced to reach
almost 8 percent of estates, which is much higher than the historic
average. We are back down to where we have been through the century.
I suggest, once again, that we ought to stay with a tax that has
served us well. Nearly 100 years ago, Theodore Roosevelt urged adoption
of a tax that would ``be aimed merely at the inheritance or
transmission in their entirety of those fortunes swollen beyond all
healthy limits.''
To conclude, I will ask permission to have printed in the Record the
lead story in the New York Times business section, Business Day:
``Despite benefits, Democrats' Estate Tax Plan Gets Little Notice.'' It
goes on, in a manner one is not accustomed to read in business
sections, that:
Small-business owners and farmers whose Washington
lobbyists are ardent backers of a Republican-backed plan to
repeal the estate tax seem largely unaware that--
The Democratic proposal--
would exempt nearly all of them from the tax starting next
year.
As against the measure we have from the House.
I will read one paragraph and then conclude:
Two prominent experts on estate taxes said yesterday that
the Democrats were offering a much better deal to small-
business owners and farmers, because the relief under their
bill would be immediate and the estate tax would be
eliminated for nearly all of them.
That is a matter we might keep in mind. I ask unanimous consent that
this article be printed in the Record.
There being no objection, the article was ordered to be printed in
the Record, as follows:
[From the New York Times, July 13, 2000]
Despite Benefits, Democrats' Estate Tax Plan Gets Little Notice
(By David Cay Johnson)
Small-business owners and farmers whose Washington
lobbyists are ardent backers of a Republican-backed plan to
repeal the estate tax seem largely unaware what President
Clinton--who has vowed to veto the Republican proposal--has
said he would sign legislation that would exempt nearly all
of them from the tax starting next year.
Business owners and farmers would be allowed to leave $2
million--$4 million for a couple--to their heirs without
paying estate taxes under the plan favored by the President
and the Democratic leadership in Congress. The Republican
proposal, which passed the House last month with some
Democrats' support and is being debated in the Senate
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this week, would be phased in slowly, with the tax eliminated
in 2009.
Supporters of the Republican plan say the tax is so
complicated that eliminating it is the only effective reform;
they argue that the nation's growing wealth means more
estates will steadily fall under the tax if it remains law on
the Democratic proposal's terms.
Still, had the Democratic plan been law in 1997, the last
year for which estate tax return data is available from the
Internal Revenue Service, the estates of fewer than 1,300
owners of closely held businesses and 300 farmers would have
owed the tax.
According to the data, 95 percent of the roughly 6,000
farmers who paid estate tax that year would have been
exempted under terms of the Democrats' plan, as would 88
percent of the roughly 10,000 small-business owners who paid
the tax.
Had the estate tax been repealed in 1997, as the
Republicans now propose, more than half of the tax savings
would have gone to the slightly more than 400 individuals who
died that year leaving individual estates worth more than $20
million each.
Two prominent experts on estate taxes said yesterday that
the Democrats were offering a much better deal to small-
business owners and farmers, because the relief under their
bill would be immediate and the estate tax would be
eliminated for nearly all of them.
``The fact is that the Democrats are making the better
offer--and I'm a Republican saying that,'' said Sanford J.
Schlesinger of the law firm of Kaye, Scholer, Fierman, Hays &
Handler in New York. With routine estate planning, he said,
the $4 million exemption could effectively be raised to as
much as $10 million in wealth that could be passed untaxed to
heirs. Only 1,221 of the 2.3 million people who died in 1997
left a taxable estate of $10 million or more, I.R.S. data
shows.
Neil Harl, an Iowa State University economist who is a
leading estate tax adviser to Midwest farmers, said that only
a handful of working family farms had a net worth of $4
million. ``Above that, with a very few exceptions, you are
talking about the Ted Turners who own huge ranches and are
not working farmers,'' he said.
Mr. Harl said he was surprised that farmers were not
calling lawmakers to demand that they take the president up
on his promise to sign the Democratic bill.
One reason for that may be that in leading the call for
repeal of the tax, two organizations representing merchants
and farmers--the National Federation of Independent Business
and the American Farm Bureau Federation--have done little to
tell members about the Democratic plan. Interviews this week
with half a dozen people whom the two organizations offered
as spokesmen on the estate tax showed that only one of them
had any awareness of the Democratic proposal.
Officials of the business federation and the farm bureau
said that in the event full repeal failed, they might push
for approval of the Democratic plan. But both groups say
outright repeal makes more sense.
``My concern is not over the Bill Gateses of the world,''
said Jim Hirni, a Senate lobbyist for the business
federation. ``But we have to eliminate this tax, because it
is too complicated to comply with the rules. Instead of
further complicating the system, the best way is to eliminate
the tax, period.''
A farm bureau spokesman, Christopher Noun, said that the
Democrats' plan appeared to grant benefits that would erode
over time. ``Farmers are not cash wealthy, they are asset
wealthy,'' he said. ``And those assets are only going to
continue to gain value over the years. So while some
farmers may not be taxed now under the other plan--10 or
15 years out they will.''
Whether the proposal to repeal the tax dies in the Senate
or is passed and then vetoed by the President, it will become
a powerful tool for both parties in the fall elections. The
Republicans will be able to paint themselves as tax cutters
who would carry out their plans if they could just win the
White House and more seats in Congress. The Democrats could
try to paint the Republicans as the party that abandoned Main
Street merchants and family farmers to serve the interests of
billionaires.
A vote in the Senate could come as early as this evening.
At the grass roots, however, those who would benefit from
any reduction in the scope of the estate tax take a much more
pragmatic view of the matter.
``The whole reason I took up this cause is I do not want to
see another small family business get into the situation we
are in,'' said Mark Sincavage, a land developer in the Pocono
Mountains of Pennsylvania whose family expects to sell some
raw land soon to pay a $600,000 estate tax bill to the
federal and state governments.
The independent business federation cited Mr. Sincavage's
situation as an especially good example of problems the
estate tax causes its members who are asset rich but short on
cash. Facing similar circumstances is John H. Kearney, a Ford
and Lincoln dealer in Ravena, N.Y., who said he ``got slammed
pretty hard'' when his father died last year. Most of his
father's $1.6 million estate was in land and the car
dealership, said Mr. Kearney, who added that he dipped into
savings intended for his children's education to pay the
estate tax bill.
Neither Mr. Sincavage nor Mr. Kearney said he was aware of
the Democrats' plan to roll back the tax.
But Mr. Kearney said his interest was in reasonable tax
relief so that merchants and farmers could continue to
nurture their businesses, not in helping billionaires.
``No part of me has any sympathy for people with more than
$5 million,'' he said. ``Would I feel terrible if all they
did was raise the exemption to $4 million or $5 million? I
would say from my selfish standpoint that we have covered the
small family farm and small business and thus we achieved
what we wanted to achieve.
``But I would still be asking: Is it really a moral tax to
begin with? And that's a point you can argue a hundred
different ways.''
Carl Loop, 72, who owns a whole-sale decorative-plant
nursery in Jacksonville, Fla., said he favored repeal, partly
because estate tax planning was fraught with uncertainty.
``The complexity of it keeps a lot of people from doing
estate planning because they don't understand it,'' Mr. Loop
said. ``And they don't like the fact that they have to give
up ownership of property while they are alive.''
Professor Harl, the Iowa State University estate tax
expert, said that he had heard many horror stories about
people having to sell farms to pay estate taxes. But in 35
years of conducting estate tax seminars for farmers, he
added, ``I have pushed and pushed and hunted and probed and I
have not been able to find a single cause where estate taxes
caused the sale of a family farm; it's a myth.''
Mr. MOYNIHAN. Mr. President, I see that my esteemed chairman has
risen. Accordingly, I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Crapo). The Senator from Delaware.
Mr. ROTH. Mr. President, the Senate Democrats have proposed an
amendment as an alternative proposal to H.R. 8 known as the Death Tax
Elimination Act of 2000.
In their alternative, my colleagues across the aisle continue to rely
upon the concept of a ``unified credit'' against the death tax. Their
$1 million unified credit does not equal H.R. 8's $1 million exemption.
The math behind the Democratic alternative forces the families of the
deceased to continue to pay the very high tax rate of 41 percent for
even one dollar over their $1 million unified credit.
Now compare that to the reasonable 18 percent tax rate for the first
dollar over our proposed $1 million exemption. H.R. 8's use of an
exemption versus the Democratic alternative's use of a credit literally
cuts the remaining tax rate in half or modest estates. In short, the
Democratic alternative still has a ``cliff effect.'' If the total fair
market value, based on the Internal Revenue's opinion as to the
estate's highest and best use, happens to exceed the Democratic credit,
then the family is immediately exposed to death tax rates 41 to 60
percent.
The Democratic alternative fails to take advantage of the lower
estate tax rates currently provided in the tax code. Their increase in
the unified credit to $1 million forces American families to still pay
death taxes ranging from 41 to 60 percent.
While H.R. 8's use of the exemption would allow American families the
benefit of the lower tax rates beginning at 18 percent until such time
as all of the death taxes are eliminated.
I think through all of the debates, most if not all of my colleagues
in the Senate would agree that the influences of a strong economy have
created $1 million estates in American families who have never had to
face these types of overwhelming tax burdens. Dozens of American cities
continue to report that the average sales price for a single family
home has climbed to more than $250,000. Their average homes are worth a
quarter of a million dollars, by the time you add life insurance for
husband and wife, 401(k)s and IRAs to the fair market value of their
homes many American families could be facing the previously unknown
burden of death tax.
Even though the Democratic alternative goes on to eventually increase
the unified credit to $2 million by the year 2009, American families'
life insurance, 401(k)s, IRAs, and other lifetime savings are exposed
to death taxes beginning at 49 to 60 percent for every dollar above the
credit.
In vast contrast, those same families would be shielded from all
death taxes after 2009, under our proposed Death Tax Elimination Act,
H.R. 8.
Additionally, the Democratic alternative attempts to target its
proposed relief to family farms and small businesses by raising the
family farm and small business deduction from $1.3 million per
decedent to $2 million per decedent in the year 2001. Beginning in 2006
through 2009 the deduction would
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then be increased through a series of steps to $4 million per decedent.
First of all, I am concerned that under the Democratic alternative,
only those estates with over 50 percent of the estate in small
businesses would qualify for relief. Upon the detailed review of the 50
percent requirement it becomes obvious that their alternative has
several complicated adjustments, which includes all gifts made to the
spouse within 10 years of death. This fact alone makes this approach
very limited.
In addition to the 50 percent requirement, the Democratic alternative
requires that for ten years beyond the date of death, small business
families shall have an additional estate tax imposed if the family must
dispose of any portion of the family owned business interest for such
reasons as bankruptcy or foreclosure. The additional tax is a portion
of what would have been owed without the small business exemption and
the accrued interest from the date of death.
Second, I am also concerned about the complexity of this approach.
The Democratic alternative would require the use of business appraisals
and also the preparing and filing of extensive paperwork for up to 10
years beyond death.
After a couple of years of this targeted modest relief having been in
effect, I have heard about how it is working. Based on what family
farmers and small business folks are telling me in Delaware, I have
some misgivings about whether this approach is taking care of most or
all of the cases.
Since this complex provision was originally passed in the Taxpayer
Relief Act of 1997, 902 estates have elected the current $1.3 million
deduction available under the code. Our experience in the area of
estate tax provisions leads us to believe that if the Internal Revenue
Service challenges as many of the estate valuations as they do under
similar provision then only about one-third of the estates that could
elect under this provision would benefit under the Democratic
alternative.
There are other significant differences between H.R. 8 and the
Democratic alternative. H.R. 8 has painstakingly attempted to address
multiple concerns in the rules under the generation skipping transfer
tax provisions, in a sincere effort to make those rules less burdensome
and less complex. Those technical rules, if violated by accident or
otherwise generate an additional tax for violating the restriction
against generation skipping transfers, by levying 55 percent tax over
and above the 41 to 60 percent death tax already due and owing on the
total value of the estate. The Democratic alternative does not address
the much needed technical changes to general skipping transfer taxes.
Additionally, H.R. 8 has expanded the geographical limitations to
qualified conservation easements. This is in recognition of the
opportunity to further ease existing pressures to develop or sell
environmentally significant land when families must raise funds to pay
death taxes.
The Democratic alternative has not even considered this important
issue nor has it attempted to advance the preservation of such land.
Now the Democratic leadership has repeatedly complained as to the
expense associated with the Death Tax Elimination Act of 2000. But
their own alternative is expecting a revenue loss of $64 billion over
10 years, roughly 60 percent of the revenue loss of H.R. 8. This is a
$64 billion revenue loss that does not even protect those American
families with simple homes, savings, insurance, qualified plans, and
investments that do not include a farm or a business.
H.R. 8 repeals the whole estate and gift tax regime in 2010. But,
because there are billions of dollars of assets previously untaxed, if
the heirs sell any portion of the estate, capital gains taxes are then
due and owing. Taxes are then paid at the right time, when the heirs
convert the asset to cash. The tax is not collected on an arbitrary and
traumatic event such as death. Nor is tax collected on an arbitrary
valuation based on paper equity that has never been realized.
Moderately sized estates would be safeguarded from this capital gains
tax exposure. The step up in basis is retained for all estates in an
amount of up to $1.3 million per estate. In addition, transfers to a
surviving spouse would receive an additional step up in the amount of
$3 million. So a family could cumulatively receive a step up in basis
of $5.6 million at the death of both husband and wife. This effectively
protects moderately sized estates from both death tax and capital gain
tax exposure.
The House passed the bill on a bipartisan basis with 65 Democrats
voting in favor of repeal of the estate and gift taxes. Now is the
Senate's opportunity to pass this bill on a bipartisan basis and send
it to the President. It is my understanding this will be the only
chance this year that we will have to pass this bill and repeal estate
and gift taxes. If we fail, the bill dies. If we come together and vote
in favor of the House bill--estate tax repeal that the Congress passed
last year--it will go directly to the President for his signature.
This should not be a partisan issue.
Unfortunately, the White House has indicated its opposition to repeal
of estate and gift taxes and has promised to veto this bill. With
roughly $2 trillion of estimated non-Social Security surpluses over the
next 10 years, I believe the approximately $105 billion cost of
repealing estate and gift taxes to be well within reason--it is only
about 5 percent of the projected non-Social Security surplus.
Taxpayers are taxed on their earnings during their lives at least
once. Our Nation has been built on the notion that anyone who works
hard has the opportunity to succeed and create wealth. The estate and
gift taxes are a disincentive to succeed and should be eliminated. It
is the right thing to do.
It has been said that there are only two certainties: death and
taxes. The two are bad enough, but leave it to the Federal Government
to find a way to make them worse by adding them together. This is
probably the worst example of adding insult to injury ever devised. Yet
Washington perpetuates over and over again on hard working families who
have already paid taxes every day they have worked.
The Democratic alternative fails to address the needs of the American
people. Therefore I urge my colleagues to support the majority leader
and vote for H.R. 8.
Mr. President, I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Nevada.
Mr. REID. Mr. President, I yield to Senator Baucus whatever time he
may consume.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Montana.
Mr. BAUCUS. Mr. President, I will start by complimenting the two
leaders. Yesterday at this time, we were facing a likely cloture
petition which would have severely limited debate on different
amendments. We finally reached agreement on a certain number of
amendments. It is good we have crossed that bridge and are now on the
bill.
Some of the amendments that are going to be offered today may be
adopted--some may not--but at least they will all improve the bill. We
will have an open debate on them, and that allows the American people
to have a better opportunity to determine what makes sense and what
does not. Again, I congratulate the leaders.
The House bill still raises many serious questions that deserve
careful consideration. I will name a few.
One is the impact of the House bill across various income levels,
something that has really not been discussed. How does it affect one
income level versus another income level versus the highest income
levels in America?
Another is the new rules that maintain the carryover basis of certain
inherited assets. What is all that about? It is kind of technical. The
fact is, under the House bill--remember, the House bill doesn't repeal
the estate tax until 10 years after enactment--there is not much relief
in the first 10 years. But after 10 years, after the estate tax is
repealed, many assets will no longer have a stepped up basis but
instead have a carryover basis.
What does someone who inherits an asset and wants to then dispose of
that asset have to do? He or she cannot just figure out how much tax is
owed by using the ordinary market value when it was inherited, which
presumably is quite a bit higher than when it was
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bought. Rather, he or she has to use the carryover basis from when the
asset was first acquired with whatever adjustments were made in the
meantime. This is usually much lower. And it is awfully technical.
The net effect is twofold: One is that people who receive an
inheritance, under the House bill, are going to suddenly face a much
higher capital gains tax if and when they want to dispose of it than
they would under current law. Under current law, again, it is called a
stepped-up basis. The net effect is a much lower capital gains tax when
the asset might otherwise be sold.
All you folks who think, boy, this House bill is going to repeal the
estate tax, beware. It does not really repeal the estate tax. What it
does is say that 10 years later, when you get that asset, if you want
to do anything with it, if you want to sell it, want to realize the
value of it, you will pay a whopping capital gains tax, much higher
than you would otherwise pay under current law.
The second problem with that is the complexity of the paperwork.
Let's assume the House bill passes. After 10 years --you are a person
who receives inheritance from an estate. If you have to go back and
figure out what the basis of all the assets are, some assets may have
been acquired by the decedent 5 years earlier, 10 years earlier, maybe
20 years earlier, maybe 30 years earlier. The basis may have to be
carried over for generations. If you have to stop and find the
paperwork, find the data which determines what the cost was of that
asset from who knows how many years ago, that is a huge change from
current law. It will cause undue complexity.
A lot of people in this body correctly complain about the complexity
of the Tax Code. That is a valid complaint. If the House bill passes,
the additional complexity that this body will impose on taxpayers is
going to be beyond imagination. When this Congress did the same thing
about 24 years ago, in 1976, guess what happened. Our own constituents
raised a huge outcry. What did we do in the Congress? We agreed with
our folks.
We ended up repealing carryover basis before it even took effect. I
don't think many people have focused on it, but that same provision is
in the House bill right now, the bill we have before us.
Then there is the effect of the House bill on charitable giving, when
the estate tax is totally repealed on down the road after 10 years. I
have talked to a lot of estate tax attorneys--reasonable people, good,
solid estate tax attorneys. They say: Max, if you pass a total repeal,
I guarantee you there will be a huge drop in charitable contributions
in America--huge. It stands to reason.
Think of some taxpayers who have been in the news a lot, some
Americans who have huge estates. We see in the news that they are
giving a lot to charity. I am sure a lot of those folks are giving to
charity out of the goodness of their hearts, for good, solid altruistic
reasons. I am also confident that a lot of people with wealth give to
charity because under current law, it benefits them; those charitable
contributions are deductible. They would far rather give to a charity
than to Uncle Sam. They would rather give to their children first, but
they would rather give to a charity than Uncle Sam.
I think you are going to see a huge drop in charitable contributions
if this House-passed bill the majority party is pushing is enacted into
law. At the very least, we never had hearings on this. We really don't
know what effect it will have on charitable contributions. We really
don't know what real effect repeal of the stepped-up basis and moving
over to the carryover basis can have either. We can surmise. I don't
hear the majority talking about those issues much, which leads me to
the conclusion that there is probably more of a problem with these
issues than they want people to believe. What our best guess of the
effect? We could determine it best if we had hearings, but there have
been no hearings on Federal estate taxes in this Congress--none in the
Senate.
I won't belabor the point. I think it is just basic things we should
be thinking about before we rush to passage of the House-passed bill.
Let's move on to the substance. Remember, under current law, the estate
tax applies to estates worth more than $675,000. That is the law. That
amount is scheduled to rise to $1 million in the year 2006. In
addition, we have special rules that increase the exemption for family-
held businesses to $1.3 million. That is current law.
To put this in perspective, next year it is expected that about 2.5
million Americans will die. Of those 2.5 million, roughly 50,000 will
have estates that will pay an estate tax under current law. That is 2
percent. I will repeat that because it is worth remembering. Of the
number of people who will die this year, about 2 percent of those
people will have estates subject to estate tax. So 98 percent of
Americans who die will not have estates that are subject to the estate
tax. That is current law.
With this basic picture in mind, today's debate presents two separate
alternatives, two ways to reform the estate tax. There is the House-
passed bill and there is the Democratic alternative.
Let's look at the House bill. What does it do? It works in two steps.
Over the first 9 years, it gradually reduces estate tax rates down to a
top rate of about 40 percent. How does it do it? Really, it doesn't
reduce taxes very quickly during that 9 years because the first year
the only things that are actually repealed are the top rate, which is
55 percent, and the surtax. During that time other modest cuts are
made. Then the next year, the 53 percent rate is repealed, and then on
down. Then in the final year, you get total repeal. The bill waits a
full 10 years after enactment before it completely repeals the estate
tax. That is when the real effect of the House bill is felt. It is not
in the first 10 years but after total repeal, after 10 years.
At the same time, the House bill imposes a new requirement. When full
repeal goes into effect, people who inherit estates worth more than
certain amounts must maintain what tax lawyers call the ``carryover
basis'' of inherited assets. I discussed that a few minutes ago. That,
in a nutshell, is the House bill.
The Democratic alternative takes a different approach. It does two
things--very simple but effective. First, we dramatically increase the
amount that is exempt from estate tax. Currently, as I mentioned, it is
$675,000. We increase the per person exemption to $1 million per spouse
right away. A few years later, we begin to increase it again, until it
reaches $2 million. For a couple, that is a $4 million exemption right
across the board.
Second, we increase the family-owned business exclusion to $4 million
per spouse. For a couple, it is $8 million.
Those are the two alternatives.
When you compare them, it should be pretty clear the Democratic
alternative has two important virtues. First, the Democratic
alternative provides dramatic relief, while the Republican bill does
not. And it provides dramatic relief where it is needed the most--small
businesses, family-held farms and ranches.
In the first year, we would exempt over 40 percent of the estates
that are currently subject to an estate tax. Not the House bill, the
majority proposed bill; it actually would affect very few people in the
first year and it wouldn't exempt anyone from the tax. The Democratic
alternative would exempt 40 percent. In fact, ours contains much more
relief for estates in this range than the House bill would begin to
provide.
Over the longer term, when the provisions take full effect, the
Democratic alternative exempts more than two-thirds of all estates.
Remember, of all the people who die in America, only 2 percent are
subject to estate tax in the first place. The Democratic alternative
exempts two-thirds of all those; that is, two-thirds of the 2 percent.
It would also exempt three-quarters of all small businesses that might
otherwise be paying tax, and 95 percent of all farms and ranches that
would have to pay the estate tax under current law.
In contrast, the House-passed bill doesn't go nearly that far. It
provides very little relief to these estates for the first 10 years.
Granted, eventually it provides total relief, but that is 10 years from
now, not in the interim. In 2010 the Republican bill repeals the tax
completely, including estates worth not only $2 million or $3 million,
or family businesses up to $8 million, but
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it also repeals the estate tax for huge estates--$100 million estates,
$1 billion estates, $5 billion estates. It totally repeals any tax
whatsoever on estates of that size.
Yesterday, I spoke in opposition to the House bill, and Senators
Thomas and Inhofe expressed a little surprise. They said when they talk
to ordinary folks in their home States, they hear a lot about the
estate tax, and people want reform. They wondered whether I was hearing
the same in my State of Montana. I sure am, all the time--in coffee
shops, in grocery stores, lots of people talk to me. They think it hits
too hard on farms, ranches, and small businesses. That is precisely the
point. The House bill responds to these with an abstraction--repeal, 10
years from now.
The Democratic alternative says, no, we are not going to wait 10
years; we are going to do it now. We respond with honest-to-goodness
relief. I am sure there is somebody in Montana with an estate worth
more than $8 million who will still have to pay some estate tax under
the Democratic alternative. But there sure aren't many of them.
Remember, the vast majority of the estates are either not affected by
the tax now or, if they are, would be completely exempt under the
Democratic alternative. One other virtue of the Democratic alternative
is it costs much less than the House bill, $40 billion less over 10
years. After that, the savings are even greater.
As a result, the Democratic alternative allows us not only to reform
the estate tax in a way that helps where it is needed the most, but it
also allows us to address other priorities that, frankly, are more
important than total repeal of the estate tax, particularly for huge
estates.
For example, what about the national debt? The Democratic alternative
leaves an additional $40 billion available to pay down the national
debt. Or we could use the savings to provide tax cuts to meet other
important needs; help average families save for retirement or their
kids' college education, or help people meet long-term medical care
costs; protect Social Security and Medicare.
Believe me, these are good things that we hear about at home all the
time. I believe that more people are more concerned about these matters
than they are about total repeal of the estate tax, particularly for
large estates.
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