[Congressional Record Volume 146, Number 69 (Wednesday, June 7, 2000)]
[Senate]
[Pages S4637-S4649]
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NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2001--Continued
Mr. WARNER. Mr. President, I express my gratitude to the
distinguished ranking member and to the distinguished minority whip.
We are endeavoring to ascertain the remainder of the amendments that
could be brought before the Senate in connection with this bill. There
are strong initiatives on this side. We are going to put out a hotline
on our side. We are urging Senators to contact the respective
cloakrooms and to indicate--in the event they have a desire to have a
matter covered on this bill by amendment--their desire to speak in
relation to this bill or other procedural steps so that we can try to
project the conclusion for this bill. We hope by 6 o'clock tonight is
to get a unanimous consent request to lay down a list of amendments to
be considered for the remainder of time on this bill.
Mr. LEVIN. Mr. President, I support the request for our colleagues to
contact the cloakrooms about their intentions relative to amendments
and speaking on the bill. It will help us to organize the rest of the
time we will need on the bill.
I particularly thank Senator Reid. He has been working hard on our
side. I know that kind of effort is being made also on the Republican
side to see if we cannot come up with a finite list at the end of the
day of amendments that Members intend to offer.
Mr. REID. Mr. President, I think we have made progress. Sometimes it
has been painfully slow. But this is a very big and important bill. We
have a number of Senators on the minority side who expressed their
desire to offer some amendments. We have a hotline
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going out from our cloakroom asking that we try to develop a finite
list of amendments. Once that is done, we will be in a better position
to determine approximately how long it will take to complete this bill.
I should say to both managers of this bill that the minority is
desirous of having this bill completed as quickly as possible.
As the managers of this bill know, in the past this bill has taken a
long time. We are going to try to move it more quickly than in the
past. But we still have a lot of amendments. But by the end of the day,
I hope we will be in some kind of position to indicate to the managers
of the bill how many amendments we have on this side. We hope the
majority will tell us how many amendments they have.
Mr. WARNER. Mr. President, I certainly appreciate the expression from
our distinguished leader on the minority that it is the minority's
desire to move this bill to completion. That is very reassuring.
Mr. REID. Mr. President, we have a pending unanimous consent request.
We are not in a position at this time to agree to that. We are getting
very close. As soon as that is possible, we will notify the manager of
the bill and enter into that unanimous consent agreement to take care
of some things tomorrow.
Mr. WARNER. Mr. President, I assure our distinguished leadership on
this side that Senator Lott, I, and others believe very strongly that
this bill is essential for the United States and essential for the men
and women in the Armed Forces. I think considerable bipartisanship has
prevailed up to this moment. I hope it continues and we can complete
this bill.
Mr. LEVIN. Mr. President, my staff just handed me some interesting
statistics, since we have a moment. Over the last 10 years, we have
averaged 5\1/2\ days on the Defense authorization bill and 116
amendments, on average. We are actually doing pretty well. We are
making some progress. We may beat the average even. We never know.
Mr. REID. Especially considering the fact that we didn't start this
bill until late yesterday afternoon. We have only been on this bill a
little more than one day.
Mr. WARNER. Mr. President, a hotline will be going out to both
cloakrooms. I thank my colleagues. We are still awaiting the arrival of
Senator McCain, at which time we will proceed to the McCain-Levin
amendment, which is described in detail in the unanimous consent
request.
I suggest the absence of a quorum.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll.
The legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
Mr. McCAIN. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for
the quorum call be rescinded.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Amendment No. 3197
(Purpose: To authorize additional rounds of base closures and
realignments under the Defense Base Closure and Realignment Act of 1990
and 2003 and 2005)
Mr. McCAIN. Mr. President, I send an amendment to the desk.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will report.
The senior assistant bill clerk read as follows:
The Senator from Arizona (Mr. McCain), for himself and Mr.
Levin, Mr. Robb, Mr. Voinovich, Mr. Reed, Mr. DeWine, and Mr.
Wyden, proposes an amendment numbered 3197.
Mr. McCAIN. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that reading of
the amendment be dispensed with.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
The amendment is as follows:
On page 530, after line 21, add the following:
SEC. 2822. AUTHORITY TO CARRY OUT BASE CLOSURE ROUNDS IN 2003
AND 2005.
(a) Commission Matters.--
(1) Appointment.--Subsection (c)(1) of section 2902 of the
Defense Base Closure and Realignment Act of 1990 (part A of
title XXIX of Public Law 101-510; 10 U.S.C. 2687 note) is
amended--
(A) in subparagraph (B)--
(i) by striking ``and'' at the end of clause (ii);
(ii) by striking the period at the end of clause (iii) and
inserting a semicolon; and
(iii) by adding at the end the following new clauses (iv)
and (v):
``(iv) by no later than January 24, 2003, in the case of
members of the Commission whose terms will expire at the end
of the first session of the 108th Congress; and
``(v) by no later than March 15, 2005, in the case of
members of the Commission whose terms will expire at the end
of the first session of the 109th Congress.''; and
(B) in subparagraph (C), by striking ``or for 1995 in
clause (iii) of such subparagraph'' and inserting ``, for
1995 in clause (iii) of that subparagraph, for 2003 in clause
(iv) of that subparagraph, or for 2005 in clause (v) of that
subparagraph''.
(2) Meetings.--Subsection (e) of that section is amended by
striking ``and 1995'' and inserting ``1995, 2003, and 2005''.
(3) Staff.--Subsection (i)(6) of that section is amended in
the matter preceding subparagraph (A) by striking ``and
1994'' and inserting ``, 1994, and 2004''.
(4) Funding.--Subsection (k) of that section is amended by
adding at the end the following new paragraph (4):
``(4) If no funds are appropriated to the Commission by the
end of the second session of the 107th Congress for the
activities of the Commission in 2003 or 2005, the Secretary
may transfer to the Commission for purposes of its activities
under this part in either of those years such funds as the
Commission may require to carry out such activities. The
Secretary may transfer funds under the preceding sentence
from any funds available to the Secretary. Funds so
transferred shall remain available to the Commission for such
purposes until expended.''.
(5) Termination.--Subsection (l) of that section is amended
by striking ``December 31, 1995'' and inserting ``December
31, 2005''.
(b) Procedures.--
(1) Force-structure plan.--Subsection (a)(1) of section
2903 of that Act is amended by striking ``and 1996,'' and
inserting ``1996, 2004, and 2006,''.
(2) Selection criteria.--Subsection (b) of such section
2903 is amended--
(A) in paragraph (1), by inserting ``and by no later than
December 31, 2001, for purposes of activities of the
Commission under this part in 2003 and 2005,'' after
``December 31, 1990,'';
(B) in paragraph (2)(A)--
(i) in the first sentence, by inserting ``and by no later
than February 15, 2002, for purposes of activities of the
Commission under this part in 2003 and 2005,'' after
``February 15, 1991,''; and
(ii) in the second sentence, by inserting ``, or enacted on
or before March 31, 2002, in the case of criteria published
and transmitted under the preceding sentence in 2001'' after
``March 15, 1991''; and
(C) by adding at the end a new paragraph:
``(3) Any selection criteria proposed by the Secretary
relating to the cost savings or return on investment from the
proposed closure or realignment of a military installation
shall be based on the total cost and savings to the Federal
Government that would result from the proposed closure or
realignment of such military installation.''.
(3) Department of defense recommendations.--Subsection (c)
of such section 2903 is amended--
(A) in paragraph (1), by striking ``and March 1, 1995,''
and inserting ``March 1, 1995, March 14, 2003, and May 16,
2005,'';
(B) by redesignating paragraphs (4), (5), and (6) as
paragraphs (5), (6), and (7), respectively;
(C) by inserting after paragraph (3) the following new
paragraph (4):
``(4)(A) In making recommendations to the Commission under
this subsection in any year after 1999, the Secretary shall
consider any notice received from a local government in the
vicinity of a military installation that the government would
approve of the closure or realignment of the installation.
``(B) Notwithstanding the requirement in subparagraph (A),
the Secretary shall make the recommendations referred to in
that subparagraph based on the force-structure plan and final
criteria otherwise applicable to such recommendations under
this section.
``(C) The recommendations made by the Secretary under this
subsection in any year after 1999 shall include a statement
of the result of the consideration of any notice described in
subparagraph (A) that is received with respect to an
installation covered by such recommendations. The statement
shall set forth the reasons for the result.''; and
(D) in paragraph (7), as so redesignated--
(i) in the first sentence, by striking ``paragraph (5)(B)''
and inserting ``paragraph (6)(B)''; and
(ii) in the second sentence, by striking ``24 hours'' and
inserting ``48 hours''.
(4) Commission review and recommendations.--Subsection (d)
of such section 2903 is amended--
(A) in paragraph (2)(A), by inserting ``or by no later than
July 7 in the case of recommendations in 2003, or no later
than September 8 in the case of recommendations in 2005,''
after ``pursuant to subsection (c),'';
(B) in paragraph (4), by inserting ``or after July 7 in the
case of recommendations in 2003, or after September 8 in the
case of recommendations in 2005,'' after ``under this
subsection,''; and
(C) in paragraph (5)(B), by inserting ``or by no later than
June 7 in the case of such recommendations in 2003 and
2005,'' after ``such recommendations,''.
(5) Review by president.--Subsection (e) of such section
2903 is amended--
(A) in paragraph (1), by inserting ``or by no later than
July 22 in the case of recommendations in 2003, or no later
than September 23 in the case of recommendations in 2005,''
after ``under subsection (d),'';
(B) in the second sentence of paragraph (3), by inserting
``or by no later than August 18
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in the case of 2003, or no later than October 20 in the case
of 2005,'' after ``the year concerned,''; and
(C) in paragraph (5), by inserting ``or by September 3 in
the case of recommendations in 2003, or November 7 in the
case of recommendations in 2005,'' after ``under this
part,''.
(c) Closure and Realignment of Installations.--Section
2904(a) of that Act is amended--
(1) by redesignating paragraphs (3) and (4) as paragraphs
(4) and (5), respectively; and
(2) by inserting after paragraph (2) the following new
paragraph (3):
``(3) carry out the privatization in place of a military
installation recommended for closure or realignment by the
Commission in each such report after 1999 only if
privatization in place is a method of closure or realignment
of the installation specified in the recommendation of the
Commission in such report and is determined to be the most-
cost effective method of implementation of the
recommendation;''.
(d) Relationship to Other Base Closure Authority.--Section
2909(a) of that Act is amended by striking ``December 31,
1995,'' and inserting ``December 31, 2005,''.
(e) Technical and Clarifying Amendments.--
(1) Commencement of period for notice of interest in
property for homeless.--Section 2905(b)(7)(D)(ii)(I) of that
Act is amended by striking ``that date'' and inserting ``the
date of publication of such determination in a newspaper of
general circulation in the communities in the vicinity of the
installation under subparagraph (B)(i)(IV)''.
(2) Other clarifying amendments.--
(A) That Act is further amended by inserting ``or
realignment'' after ``closure'' each place it appears in the
following provisions:
(i) Section 2905(b)(3).
(ii) Section 2905(b)(5).
(iii) Section 2905(b)(7)(B)(iv).
(iv) Section 2905(b)(7)(N).
(v) Section 2910(10)(B).
(B) That Act is further amended by inserting ``or
realigned'' after ``closed'' each place in appears in the
following provisions:
(i) Section 2905(b)(3)(C)(ii).
(ii) Section 2905(b)(3)(D).
(iii) Section 2905(b)(3)(E).
(iv) Section 2905(b)(4)(A).
(v) Section 2905(b)(5)(A).
(vi) Section 2910(9).
(vii) Section 2910(10).
(C) Section 2905(e)(1)(B) of that Act is amended by
inserting ``, or realigned or to be realigned,'' after
``closed or to be closed''.
Mr. McCAIN. Mr. President, the amendment I propose today is one which
we have attempted on several occasions in the past. It authorizes two
rounds of U.S. military installation realignments and closures to occur
in the years 2003 and 2005--in other words, BRAC, or Base Realignment
and Closure.
I am pleased to join Senators Levin, Robb, Voinovich, Reed, DeWine,
and Wyden as cosponsors.
We have heard for the last several years of the severe problems that
exist in the military. We addressed one of those problems, food stamps,
earlier in the proceedings on this legislation. We have heard in the
Senate Armed Services Committee repeated testimony of plunging
readiness and modernization programs that are decades behind schedule
and quality-of-life deficiencies so great that we can't retain or
recruit quality personnel necessary to defend this Nation's vital
national security interests.
Statistics are sometimes numbing but sometimes interesting also. The
Air Force will be 2,000 pilots short by the end of next year, the Navy
SEALS are losing two-thirds of their officer corps, and the Army is
struggling to retain its captains. In the last few weeks, there was a
well publicized study conducted by the Army which shows an
unprecedented exodus of Army officers at the rank of captain from the
U.S. Army.
The consequences of losing the majority of your junior officers at
that rank are indeed disturbing and even alarming. Equipment is falling
in disrepair. The Marine Corps spends more time fixing broken equipment
than it does training on it. And the Air Force is discovering that its
F-16 fleet is only safe to fly for 75 percent of its original planned
service life. The Army is in need of new engines for its entire M-1
tank fleet.
Modernization of our military equipment has all but ceased for the
very large and risky programs such as the Joint Strike Fighter,
Comanche helicopter, and excessively expensive ship and submarine
programs of questionable design and questionable requirement.
There is no doubt that many of the woes of our military can be
addressed in areas other than the budget, but more judicious use of the
military by the national command authority and reduced operational
tempo will help with personnel retention.
Any person in the military will tell you today that our military
personnel, both active duty as well as Guard and Reserve forces, are
being deployed all too frequently at the expense of their lifestyles,
their family lives, and ultimately their desires to continue to serve
the country in the uniform of the military.
Streamlined training and greater attention to exercise management
will result in less strain on our service members and their equipment.
But ultimately we must pay for the last 7 years of chronic underfunding
of our military. Finding these dollars at a time when we must also
carefully attend to the health of our Social Security system and other
much needed social benefits will be absolutely difficult.
It is against this backdrop that we should acknowledge the absolute
requirement to close unneeded military bases. The armed services is
carrying the burden of managing and paying for an estimated 23-percent
excess infrastructure costing at least $3.6 billion a year. Let me
point out again, Mr. President, keeping these bases open is not without
significant cost. In fact, about $3.6 billion every year could be saved
when these unnecessary bases are ultimately closed.
By the year 2003, these costs will grow to a total of over $25
billion. If Congress allows the military to streamline its
infrastructure, these costs can be realized as real savings that can be
used to address the military's readiness shortfalls. Many have heard
strong testimony supporting further BRAC rounds from the service
chiefs, all the service Secretaries, and the Secretary of Defense.
Potential savings are dramatic. The savings in 1 year alone would more
than pay for the proposed personnel pay benefits--including health
care, buy over 36 new F-22 strike fighters for the Air Force, fully
fund our Nation's ballistic missile defense program, or pay for 75
percent of the next generation aircraft carriers.
Savings over the next 4 years are conservatively estimated to reach
$25 billion. The annual net savings from previous BRAC rounds have
grown from $3 billion in 1998 to $5.6 billion to $7 billion a year by
2001. That is an important statistic because so many of the opponents
of a base-closing round argue that money is not only not saved but
spent because of the cleanup costs that are associated with base
closings.
There are two points to be made. One is that these cleanups, although
lengthy and difficult sometimes, depending on the type of operations
that took place on that military base, have now been completed to a
large degree, and the money is being saved. As I mentioned, between
$5.6 to $7 billion will be saved next year. Also, it should disturb us
if these bases are not cleaned up anyway, whether they are open or
closed. It is an expense that probably will continue to grow. To say
that we shouldn't close bases because of the cleanup costs then, I
guess, using a certain logic, would mean we would want areas that are
hazardous to ourselves and our children's health to remain unaddressed.
These savings are, as I said, real. They are coming sooner and they
are greater than anticipated.
The GAO recently noted that in most communities where bases were
closed, incomes were actually rising faster and unemployment rates were
lower than the national average. In my own home State of Arizona there
was great wailing and gnashing of teeth as Williams Air Force Base
appeared on the base-closing list several years ago. It is now called
Williams Gateway Airport and it is generating sizably more revenue for
the community and the State of Arizona than it was when it was a
military installation. That is true at bases throughout the Nation.
There is a provision in this bill that allows for the no-cost
transfer of property from the military to the community in areas
affected by closures. This amendment authorizes two additional rounds
of base closure in 2003 and 2005. The amendment is similar to that
introduced last year except the rounds are 2003 and 2005 instead of
2001 and 2003. Why did we change the date from 2001, which would then
obviously mean it would take action well into the next administration?
Due to the justifiable mistrust, particularly on this side of
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the aisle, about this President's nonpoliticization of the process.
There are credible arguments that the last base-closing round, as far
as Kelly Air Force Base in Texas and McClellan up in Sacramento, were
politicized.
Last year, when Senator Levin and I and others brought this amendment
up, the distinguished chairman of the committee said: There will be
immediately ``acting'' in the bowels of the Pentagon to somehow
politicize this process. I say to my friend from Virginia, the
distinguished chairman of the committee, they won't be acting in the
bowels of the Pentagon, at least until the year 2003, under this
proposal.
So we are talking about an evolution that would not take place. The
round would not take place for 3 years, 3 years from now, and then
obviously those recommendations would not be implemented until
beginning with the final determination of the base-closing commission
and approval by the President and the Congress.
Additionally, under this proposed legislation, privatization in place
would be permitted only when explicitly recommended by the Commission,
which I hope would prevent a recurrence of the kind of machinations,
whether legitimate or not, that were conducted by the present
administration, which has caused so much skepticism about the results
of the last Base Closure Commission.
Finally, the Secretary of Defense must consider the total cost the
final base closure rounds have on the Government, not just cost or
savings to the Department of Defense. We can continue to maintain a
military infrastructure that we don't need or we can provide the
necessary funds to ensure our military can fight and win future wars.
Our men and women are deployed and continuing to train and prepare for
upcoming deployments, many to active combat regions. They are
undermined, increasingly short on critical weapon systems, and are
struggling to overcome a multitude of readiness deficiencies.
Recently, one of the Army divisions was declared in the lowest
category of readiness. It struck home to a lot of us in this body who
happen to still revere the great and wonderful Senator from Kansas, Mr.
Dole, who was our majority leader, who served and sacrificed in the
famous 10th Mountain Division. He, among others, was surprised when a
division with that glorious and wonderful history was declared, for all
intents and purposes, unfit to be deployed into a combat situation.
The cost associated with maintaining excess infrastructure represents
real money that is not available for essential programs and for
alleviating real defense programs.
Earlier this year, the Armed Services Committee met to discuss the
need to add critical funds to the defense account for much needed
modernization projects. I was amazed that although there were arguments
for the need for increased defense spending, no one could see that
critical defense reforms such as further BRAC rounds were required.
These rounds could provide long-term funding for modernization and
readiness programs without risking other key programs.
We must finish the job we started by authorizing a new round of base
closures. I urge my colleagues to join in support of this amendment and
work diligently to put aside politics for what is clearly in the best
interests of our military forces in our Nation.
We had kind of an unusual occurrence last year in that the Joint
Chiefs of Staff, in what was deemed by most observers as a rather
unusual move, they testified before the Senate Armed Services Committee
that they had significant shortfalls in funding.
The committee asked for detailed responses as to what were those
shortfalls in funding. The Army came up with some $5.5 billion in
unfunded requirements they thought were necessary. This comes from the
uniformed heads of the services. The Army needed $5.5 billion for
programs ranging from Longbow Apache to night vision goggles, to UH-60
Blackhawk procurement. The list is very detailed and very long: The
Navy needed about $5.8 billion; the Marine Corps needed $1.6 billion;
the Air Force needed $3.5 billion; the Special Operations Command
needed $260 million; the Army National Guard needed $800 million; and
the Air National Guard came in with a requirement for $2.4 billion.
We are taking strides to improve funding for our military. But when
you add all of this up, it comes to a very significant amount of money,
about $20 billion, that the military chiefs have submitted in written
testimony to the Congress as to the needs of the individual services.
I have to be sort of candid. I am not sure we are going to come up
with $20 billion that the services need. We are increasing funding, and
that is the first time in some years. But I do not see that in the
realm of this $20 billion, when you look at the additional costs which
are already basically there without us being able to do anything about
it--first, the funding for the new fighter aircraft, funding for the
additional ships, planes, tanks, et cetera, that will be necessary to
replace existing aging equipment and modernize our armed forces.
So here is $20 billion the chiefs say they need. I do not see a huge
increase of that size, frankly, in the future, as far as the Congress
is concerned, nor, at least under this administration, do I see that
sizable additional request.
Obviously, as I pointed out earlier, it would be a savings of some
$25 billion over a period of the next 4 years. The savings are
conservatively estimated to reach about $25 billion. I do not want to
have any of my colleagues be misled. That would be the case if we had a
base-closing commission that declared its decisions today. But if the
base-closing commission, in the year 2003, made its decisions, we could
save over the following 4 years some $25 billion. I want to make it
clear.
Yes, there will be initial costs for cleanup of these bases. That is
a sad fact--and at that time an unexpected--experience that we had. But
I also argue, with the perspective of time, we have found there is now,
as a result of the earlier base closings, annual net savings which are
growing from $3 billion in 1998 to $5.7 to $7 billion per year by next
year.
I would be distressed if Yuma Marine Corps Air Station in Yuma were
on the base-closing list. I would be distressed if Luke Air Force Base
in Phoenix were on the base-closing list. I would be distressed if
Davis Mountain Air Force Base in Tucson were on the base-closing list.
I see my friend from Nevada here, one of the cosponsors of this
amendment. I am sure he would be deeply distressed if Nellis Air Force
Base in Reno were on the base-closing list. There is not, I believe, a
Senator or very few Senators who would not feel the impact of a base-
closing commission.
But I challenge the opponents of this amendment to find me one--I say
one--credible military expert who resides outside of the Congress of
the United States who will not say that we need to have a base-closing
commission to decide on the elimination of unneeded infrastructure in
the reform of bases that the military does not need.
I ask any of us to pick up the phone and call up Gen. Colin Powell;
call up Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf; call up Cap Weinberger; call up Dick
Cheney; call up Zbigniew Brzezinski; Call up anyone, anyone today, who
is a person who has credentials as far as military readiness is
concerned, and I think you would be hard pressed to find anything but
the overwhelming majority--perhaps not totally but the overwhelming
majority of opinion on this issue by credible military experts is that
we have excess infrastructure in the form of too many bases which we do
not need and which should be closed in order to use those funds for
badly needed military requirements.
I apologize to this body, to keep going back to the plight of the
service men and women in the military today. But we do have service men
and women in the military on food stamps. We do have service men and
women in the military in my own State residing in barracks that were
built during World War II. We do have service men and women in the
Marine Corps who are, for example, retreading military vehicle tires so
they can get additional money in order to have ammunition with which to
practice.
The stories go on and on.
Mr. WARNER. Mr. President, will the Senator yield?
Mr. McCAIN. I will be glad to yield to the distinguished chairman at
any time, including now.
Mr. WARNER. At an appropriate time.
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Mr. McCAIN. Please go ahead.
Mr. WARNER. Since he and I joined together several years ago on a
piece of legislation to initiate the BRAC process--you remember that,
and I will not go into the chronology--I share with the Senator
appreciation of the need for an assessment of our base structure. That
should be made in the context of the demands of the armed services.
There is no one--you just had an amendment that succeeded
overwhelmingly in the Senate on food stamps. You begin to address these
problems. I commend my old friend and colleague.
This comes to my mind. There is no one who is a stronger fighter for
the prerogatives of the President of the United States. You fought hard
here recently on an amendment which I had with Senator Byrd. I think
you took the line we could be strapping the President of the United
States.
Factually speaking, with no criticism towards President Clinton,
there will be an election in this country and a new President elected
in a few months. He will take office. Should we not accord him the
courtesy to address this question, address it in the context of the
needs that you have stated, address it in the context of a QDR, his own
analysis of the military structure of the United States? Address it in
the context of what his direction will likely be with respect to the
Armed Forces of the United States?
My colleague, above all, and I are strong supporters of one
particular candidate. He has spoken out very forcefully on the need to
further strengthen our military. I think if we were to start the
process now, it could in some ways impede or indeed thwart the next
President's, what I consider, complete freedom to look at this issue.
My colleague was right. He was talking about the $20 billion this
could possibly generate. He was correct in assessing the needs of the
Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and others. Just moments ago we
missed by a few votes a $90 billion program for retirement, which was
tough for those who had to go against it, but we had to resist that.
I am suggesting: What is the reason we should start now versus just
allow the next President to frame this legislation in terms of his own
needs and aspirations?
Mr. McCAIN. Again, I thank the chairman for his leadership and the
courage he has displayed on a number of occasions on a number of
issues.
First, I respond to my friend from a practical standpoint. This
amendment authorizes a base-closing commission. The President of the
United States does not have to appoint the Commissioners and the
President of the United States can reject the findings of the
Commission. So I do not believe we are forcing the next President of
the United States in that respect.
My second point is, it is well known the advisers, at least to the
party on this side of the aisle, to the person we believe will be the
next President of the United States--George Shultz, Brent Scowcroft,
Condolleeza Rice, Colin Powell, Robert Zoellick----
Mr. WARNER. And I suggest yourself.
Mr. McCAIN. Addressing every one of those individuals, if the
chairman and I picked up the telephone and said, ``Do you think we
should have a base-closing commission?'' they would say yes. They would
say yes.
I argue, even though I understand and appreciate and sympathize with
the position of our nominee for President of the United States not to
interfere too much with what goes on in the Congress, I believe he
would be very supportive as well.
On the other side of the aisle, if it should occur that the nominee
from the other side of the aisle were elected President of the United
States, the fact is very well known the Vice President of the United
States supports a base-closing commission as well and has voted on this
floor for the appointment of a base-closing commission.
By the way, I want the Record to be very clear that I have the
greatest respect and friendship for the Vice President of the United
States.
It is the decision of the people of this country who will be the next
President of the United States. I had respect for the Vice President
and his involvement in military issues when he and I served together,
as we did, in the Senate.
Mr. WARNER. Mr. President, he served on our committee with the Vice
President.
Mr. McCAIN. The Vice President of the United States, who is the
nominee of the other party on the other side of the aisle, is also
supportive of and would support a base-closing commission. I believe
whoever will be President of the United States supports at this time
authorizing further base-closing commissions. I believe the advisers to
both individuals also support a base-closing commission, and if that
commission were authorized, it still would not require the next
President of the United States to act even in the appointment of
commissioners, much less accepting the recommendations of that
commission. I yield to the Senator from Virginia, if he has any
additional comments.
Mr. WARNER. No, I think Senator McCain answered my question. We both
made our points. Mr. President, the time that I consumed will be
chargeable to those in opposition to the McCain amendment. I shall
eventually vote in opposition to the McCain-Levin amendment.
Mr. McCAIN. Mr. President, I simply conclude by saying I hope we can
authorize this. It is important, not only because of the money we save
which is critical for defense, but we as a body should understand that
it does not enhance our reputation about our concerns about the needs
of the military when we refuse to take what is a very logical step, and
that is to approve a base closure commission which would make
recommendations which could be either accepted or rejected by the
President of the United States and rejected by this body if this body,
in its wisdom, decided those recommendations were invalid.
Mr. President, I reserve the remainder of my time.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Michigan.
Mr. LEVIN. Mr. President, will the Senator from Arizona yield me 10
minutes?
Mr. McCAIN. Mr. President, I yield to the Senator from Michigan
whatever time he uses.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Michigan is recognized.
Mr. LEVIN. Mr. President, once again, it is necessary for Senator
McCain and I and a number of colleagues he has specified to make an
effort to authorize an additional two rounds of base closings. On this
issue, the Congress simply can run but it cannot hide.
Every time we speak about the need for additional resources, be it
for health care in the military for retirees or active duty people,
whether it is for modern equipment, whether it is for a reasonable,
decent cost-of-living allowance or a pay increase for our active duty
people, whatever it is we talk about as being needed in our military,
it seems to me to be a little bit hollow if we are not willing to make
the savings that clearly are essential and can be made and are
requested by our uniform military to help pay for those additional
expenditures. We can run but we simply cannot hide from our
responsibilities in this area.
The amendment would implement the recommendation of the Quadrennial
Defense Review. We have heard a lot about Quadrennial Defense Review
today and how important it is that review take place, and it is
important. The recommendation of the Quadrennial Defense Review was
that we have additional rounds of base closings. The National Defense
Panel recommended additional rounds of base closings. The Joint Chiefs
of Staff have recommended additional rounds of base closings. The
Secretary of Defense has made the same recommendation.
The way to respond to the need for resources for our military is to
eliminate the expenditures which are not essential.
This amendment would authorize two base-closure rounds: one in 2003
and one in 2005. The first round would take place well into the next
administration. The second round would take place in the administration
after that.
The amendment Senator McCain and I and others are offering would
follow the base-closure process that was used previously in 1991, 1993,
and 1995, with three main exceptions: First, because 2005--which is the
second round under this amendment--will be the first year of a new
administration, the schedule in 2005, which again would be the second
round, would start and end about 2
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months behind the schedule that would be used in 2003. The 2003
schedule would basically mirror the 1995 schedule, except that it would
start and end about 2 weeks later than in 1995. We include a 2-month
slip in the timetable of the whole process in 2005 to allow a new
administration time to decide whether they want to have a base-closure
process and to make its appointments to the commission.
As our friend from Arizona pointed out, this process we would
authorize is simply that--we authorize the process. The President would
decide whether or not to trigger the process by the appointments of the
members of the base-closing commission and then would have a fail-safe
mechanism to reject the recommendations of the commission.
The second exception to the general rules that were followed in the
last rounds' process is this amendment also includes the language to
address the problem of privatization in place for future BRAC rounds.
It would allow the Secretary of Defense to privatize in place the
workload of a closing military installation only when it is
specifically recommended by the Base Closure Commission. That would
address the issue which has been raised about the previous round when
some thought that round was politicized when there was privatization in
place, which was allowed. This cures that problem by saying no
privatization in place unless the Base Closure Commission itself
specifically recommends that course of action.
The third main difference between this and the previous rounds is
that this amendment specifies we look at the costs and savings not just
of the one agency but total costs and savings to the Federal
Government. That is important so that we do not simply save money in
one Federal Government pocket but cost money in another Federal
Government pocket; that we look at the costs and the savings to the
entire Government from a proposed closing when these recommendations
are made and not just to the Department of Defense.
In 1997, the Congress mandated there be a report on base closures.
Secretary Cohen, in compliance with that, issued a report in April of
1998. That report, which we insisted on, contains a convincing analysis
of 1,800 pages of detailed backup material. It is responsive to those
who said last year that we needed a thorough analysis before we could
reach a decision on the need for more base closures.
What that report reaffirms is that the Department of Defense simply
has more bases than it needs. Since 1989, we have reduced the total
active duty military end strength by one-third, but even after four
base-closure rounds, DOD's base structure in the United States has been
reduced by only 21 percent. We have a disconnect. We have too much
structure. There are too many bases and facilities which are operating
which we can no longer afford to operate and which must be
consolidated.
Each of us in States that have faced those closures understand the
short-term pain involved. We have lost all of our Strategic Air Command
bases in Michigan. We understand what is needed in the aftermath to
cushion the impact of those so-called realignments, which were
closures, of our three SAC bases, but we succeeded. We are on our way
back in all three areas.
The Department of Defense is telling us they have 23-percent excess
capacity in current base structure. It seems to me we cannot hold our
heads up and talk about the need of additional resources for the
Department of Defense if we are not willing to close or at least put a
process in motion which would fairly recommend the closure of some of
this 23-percent excess capacity which the Department of Defense
analysis says we have.
Mr. President, in relation to the excess capacity we have in our
defense structure, the Department of Defense analysis concludes that we
have 23 percent excess capacity in its current base structure. Just a
few examples now of that excess capacity which I think are
indefensible, again, particularly for those who are urging additional
resources in the defense budget.
How do we justify the Army having reduced classroom training
personnel by 43 percent while classroom space is only reduced by 7
percent? What we are doing by not allowing additional rounds of BRAC is
telling the Army: You have to maintain all that classroom space even
though you have no personnel to run it. So the classroom training
personnel is reduced 43 percent; classroom space is only 7 percent
reduced.
The Navy will have 33 percent more hangars for aircraft than it
requires. We are telling the Navy--unless we allow these additional
rounds of BRAC--you have to maintain those extra hangars even though
you do not have the aircraft or the need for it.
The Air Force has reduced the number of fighters and other aircraft
by 53 percent since 1989, while the base structure for those aircraft
is 35 percent smaller. So they have to keep 18 percent more base
structure than they need because we have been unable to show the
political will to allow the military to do what they are pleading with
us to allow them to do.
The chiefs come over here, the Secretary of Defense comes over here,
year after year, and they say: We need additional rounds of base
closures. So far, for the last few years at least, since the last
round, we have been unwilling to show that political will to make those
savings possible.
The report of Secretary Cohen has demonstrated some significant
savings. People say: What about the savings? Can you really demonstrate
savings? First of all, it seems to me, there is a commonsense
demonstration that if you have four stores and you are making a profit
in three, you are going to close one of those stores.
So many of us always tell the Defense Department they ought to
emulate the private sector more, to act a little bit more as a
business, be a little bit more businesslike, to show some savings in
order to make it possible for us to fund some other things needed in
the defense budget.
The Department of Defense estimates--these are not ours, these are
the Department of Defense estimates--that BRAC, so far, has saved us
$14.5 billion net. After 2001, when all of the four BRAC actions must
be completed, what we call steady state savings, the savings will be
$5.7 billion per year. Those are not our estimates; those are the
Department of Defense estimates: $5.7 billion every year saved,
starting after 2001, as a result of the four rounds we have had so far.
The CBO and the GAO reviewed the Department of Defense report. So our
Budget Office and our General Accounting Office reviewed that report,
and they agreed that base closure saves substantial amounts of money.
Based on the savings from the first four BRAC rounds, every year that
we delay another base closure round, we deny the Defense Department,
the taxpayers, and our Nation's defense about $1.5 billion in annual
savings we can never recoup.
Again, I know base closings can be painful. I know that probably as
well as anybody because all three SAC bases, as I said, in my home
State have been closed, and we are still working hard to overcome the
economic blow to those communities. But we are working successfully.
There is no question that the BRAC process is the fairest, most open,
most objective way to close bases. Without it, we are not going to
close bases. That is what history has shown.
Furthermore, in last year's bill we took steps to make the conveyance
of BRAC property even easier for local communities. We have taken care
of the objectionable part which surfaced last time when there was
privatization in place which many thought had not been provided for by
the Base Closure Commission but which the administration nonetheless
allowed. We have cured that in this bill by saying the next Base
Closure Commission must specifically authorize privatization in place
for a closed facility or else it cannot occur.
Our forces need quality training. They need precision weapons. They
do not need extra military bases. We just simply have higher priorities
for our defense dollars than funding bases we no longer need.
As the Senator from Arizona said, we have paid a lot of attention,
and should pay a lot of attention, to the chiefs' unfunded requirement
lists. We should give, and do give, great weight to them. The Senator
from Arizona listed the shortfalls the chiefs listed, totaling
approximately $20 billion.
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There are a number of ways to fund those unfunded requirements. One
is to use some of the surplus we have worked so hard to achieve by just
simply adding to the budget for the Defense Department, to the so-
called top line. But we are not limited to that approach, and it is a
difficult approach.
Whether or not we pay down the national debt, whether or not we
protect Medicare, whether or not we have a tax cut, or whether or not
we spend some of that on education, there are very important competing
interests for the surplus. We don't have to simply say: We will use the
surplus and add money to the defense budget. We can find savings and
reapply those savings to higher priorities. That is what past BRAC
rounds are already doing for us, and that is what the BRAC rounds in
this amendment will do for us in the future, if we are willing to do
what the Secretary is asking us to do, not for himself but for his
successors and, more importantly, for the men and women who will be
serving under his successors.
Secretary Cohen said recently that his biggest disappointment as
Secretary has been that the Department of Defense still has too much
overhead and he has not been able to persuade his former colleagues,
meaning us, to do what needs to be done to have more base closures. We
all know Secretary Cohen. He was a colleague of most of us. I think
every one of us trusted his judgment. We all know that BRAC affected
him and his State when he served in this body, so this is not a request
Secretary Cohen makes lightly. He knows what he is talking about and
what he is asking of us.
We can't have it both ways. We can't say we want additional billions
for health care, which we said today with the Warner amendment. We
can't say we want additional billions for disability compensation,
which was provided for in Senator Reid's amendment. We can't talk about
an additional pay raise for the military and all the other things we
rightfully talk about and are concerned about and at the same time we
maintain in place unneeded bases and structure. It is inconsistent. We
can't have it both ways. It is an issue of political will and
overcoming back-home concerns, understandable concerns but nonetheless
overcoming those concerns to meet our long-term security needs.
Are we willing to do the necessary thing, the right thing to avoid
the wasteful spending which is inherent when we maintain base structure
we don't need, when we have reduced the size of our force by a third
but our base structure by only 20 percent, and when we have classrooms
and hangars that are no longer needed, a hundred other things that are
no longer needed, because we don't have the political will to put in
place an outside base-closing commission whose recommendations can be
totally rejected if they are unfair by either the President or by us?
That is a reasonable amount of political will for which to ask in order
to achieve the billions of dollars of savings that will be achieved by
additional rounds of base closings.
I yield the floor and thank the Chair.
The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Sessions). The Senator from Virginia.
Mr. WARNER. Mr. President, we now have a unanimous consent request.
Piece by piece we are working and succeeding in putting forth UC
requests to keep this bill moving forward.
I ask unanimous consent that at 3 p.m. on Thursday, June 8, the
Senate temporarily lay aside any pending amendments and Senator Daschle
and/or his designee be recognized to offer his amendment re: HMO, and
that there be 2 hours, equally divided, prior to the vote in relation
to the amendment, with no second-degree amendments in order prior to
the vote.
I further ask consent that during today's or tomorrow's session,
Senator Inhofe be recognized for up to 10 minutes and Senator Snowe be
recognized for up to 30 minutes, each for general debate on the bill.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection?
Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. WARNER. Mr. President, I urge all Senators--we are trying to move
towards a 6 o'clock deadline tonight with respect to first-degree
amendments. We are making considerable progress on both sides.
Mr. REID. Mr. President, I say to the manager of the bill, I have
been working with our manager. We are working very hard to come up with
a finite number of amendments. It is as the Senator indicated. The
average number of amendments on this bill is about 111, and 5 and a
half or 6 days on the bill. We would certainly hope to beat that
record. But at the present time we are trying to get a list of
amendments. We hope to have that sometime later tonight or the first
thing in the morning.
Mr. WARNER. Let's continue to work toward 6 o'clock tonight. I think
it is important we do so. So many Senators have plans, and we want to
accommodate them.
Mr. REID. We will do our best.
Mr. WARNER. I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Who yields time?
Mr. INHOFE. Mr. President, on behalf of the manager, I yield myself
such time as I may need.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Oklahoma.
Mr. LEVIN. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the time which
is utilized by the Senator from Oklahoma come from the side of the
opponents of this amendment.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. That is the understanding. Without objection,
it is so ordered.
Mr. INHOFE. Mr. President, I wouldn't want anything I say to be
misinterpreted by anyone as to how I am going to be voting on the
defense authorization bill under consideration. I am going to strongly
support it, although it is strongly inadequate for the needs we are
faced with right now. I am realistic enough to know that when we get
into a rebuilding program, that is going to have to happen under a
different administration than the administration we have had over the
last 7\1/2\ years.
I was elected to the House of Representatives in 1986; my first term
was 1987. It happened that a very smart young Congressman from Texas
named Dick Armey made the decision that we were going to have to do
something about excess infrastructure and devised a way, this smart guy
who got his Ph.D. from the University of Oklahoma, to take politics out
of the base realignment and closing process. I strongly supported him.
The first round voted on, I believe, in 1987, to be implemented in
1989, about which I spoke on the floor of the House and supported, was
one that I felt this country did need. So for the first two of the four
rounds we have already had, it was cherry-picking time. Yes, we closed
bases and installations that resulted in a tremendous savings, and it
was good.
The third and the fourth rounds didn't work out that way. We have to
keep in mind that it had always been virtually impossible politically
to close installations because of the politics involved. There are
always Members of the House and Senate who don't want anything closed
in their States. Consequently, this system that was devised, this BRAC
process, was to take politics out. Everyone agreed, even though they
didn't like the results, that there had to be a process free from
politics to do that. It worked out for the first four rounds.
The last round that came through in 1995 was one where, among other
things, the BRAC committee evaluated the air logistics centers. There
are five of them in the United States, and each one was operating at
that time at 50-percent capacity. Any logical business conclusion would
demand that we close two of them and transfer the workload to the
remaining three. I heard the distinguished Senator from Michigan talk
about the process, about the fact that privatization in place is
something that would be precluded in the next BRAC round, if he is
successful in getting that authorized. I suggest that if somebody in
the White House wants to violate the integrity of this process, it is
not only privatization in place that will happen. He can find out some
other way of doing it.
We are going to have, it now appears, one of two people as the next
President of the United States. It will either be Vice President Al
Gore or George W. Bush. In the case of Vice President Gore, let's
remember what happened in the 1995 round. They made the recommendation
to close two and transfer the workloads of the remaining three. They
evaluated all five air logistics centers and determined that the two
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least efficient ones were at McClellan Air Force Base in California and
Kelly Air Force Base in Texas.
That being right before the election and both being in vote-rich
swing States, the President and the Vice President went to McClellan
and then to Kelly and said: Don't worry; even though they said that we
are going to close your bases, we are not going to let that happen. We
are going to--and just out of the air he grabbed a phrase--``privatize
in place.'' Well, that made it very clear that if you really want to
figure out a way to politicize the system, you can do it.
Who was it at that time who made the announcement out at McClellan in
California and at Kelly in Texas? It wasn't President Clinton. It was
Vice President Al Gore. I said when I began that one of those two
individuals, Gore or Bush, is going to be the next President. I will
fight to the bitter end, until at least the time we know who the next
President is going to be, before I will vote to authorize future BRAC
rounds in that one of the candidates, Vice President Al Gore, has
already demonstrated that he will induce politics back into a system
that is supposed to be free of politics. I think that has to be
considered.
The second issue is, in this rebuilding process, I believe that if
the next President of the United States is George W. Bush, having had
personal conversations with him, he recognizes that we are in the same
hollow force situation we were in in 1980 when Ronald Reagan became
President and had to start a massive rebuilding program.
What is a massive rebuilding program today? The Joint Chiefs have all
said, in testimony before our committee, with Senator Levin and myself
present, that we need to have an additional $140 billion over the next
6 years to reach the minimum expectations of the American people. What
are the minimum expectations of the American people? It is to defend
America on two regional fronts. This has been a concept most Americans
think we can do today, and we cannot do that simultaneously.
So if we start this rebuilding process and it is going to be as
significant as we think it is going to be, then we need to be looking
at what our infrastructure needs will be then, not what they are today.
If we have artificially lowered our force strength in this country to
an artificially low level, we don't want to bring our infrastructure
down to the same level because when we start to rebuild, we don't know
what our infrastructure needs will be.
That is the whole point. We will know with the new administration,
and we will be able to project in the future what that is going to be.
The argument is used that we can't have it both ways and we need to
have more money. That is true. I think we need to have a lot more money
than we have right now. In fact, we have testimony from the service
chiefs that, even with the budget we have today, we are still
inadequate to the degree of about $11 billion-plus a year in order to
start the rebuilding process and get to the point we just described.
Why would we be in a hurry to do this? When they talk about the fact
that we are going to have savings, we know those savings aren't even
going to take place in the best scenarios until, at the earliest, 2008.
In fact, I will read out of a March 2, 2000, news article that quotes
Bill Cohen. He said it will be somewhere between 2008 to 2015.
Now that is beyond the point, hopefully, that we have a crisis in
this country. Our crisis is here today. There are a lot of people who
would like to believe there is not a threat out there because the cold
war is over. I look wistfully back to the days of the Cold War. At
least we knew who the opposition was. We had two superpowers, and we
had good intelligence on both sides. We knew what they had, and they
knew what we had. We were able to address it. Today, we have all these
rogue nations that all have weapons of mass destruction. We have
countries that possess missiles that will reach to the United States of
America, China, Russia, North Korea, and maybe others--warheads that
could blow us up.
I come from Oklahoma, and I think most of the people realize it was
just 5 years ago in April that we had the most devastating domestic
terrorist attack in the history of America. It happened in Oklahoma.
When you saw the pictures of that Murrah Federal Office Building, you
saw parts of bodies that were stuck to the wall in that flaming
building and the absolute devastation, and you stopped to realize that
the smallest nuclear warhead known to man today is 1,000 times that
powerful.
So here we are vulnerable, with no defense system at all on an
incoming missile. Secondly, we are at one-half the force strength in
1991 during the Persian Gulf war. We have one-half of the Army
divisions, one-half of the tactical air wings, one-half of the ships
floating out there. Our force strength is down. At the same time, under
this administration, we have had more deployments in the last 7 years
than we had in the previous 40 years collectively. They have been in
areas where we don't have national security interests. So we are taking
these rare assets we have, and we are putting them into places such as
Kosovo and Bosnia, where we should not have gone in the first place.
So facing that 1980 dilemma our rebuilding is going to have to start
immediately for national security reasons. I would like to think that
by 2008 we would be back where we were in 1986 after the rebuilding. I
have no way of knowing that for sure, but let's hope that is the case.
Anyway, while the Senator from Arizona said it is not at all sure, he
said, to be perfectly candid, that we are going to be able to save $20
billion over that period of time. There is one thing I suggest we are
sure of, which is that the cost over the next 5 years is going to be
$2.6 billion. That means it is going to be negative during this time
that we have to start the rebuilding process. Things, right now, are in
a much more deplorable condition than America wants to believe.
As chairman of the Readiness Subcommittee of the Armed Services
Committee, I have had occasion to go to all the military installations
around the world, and I don't like what I see. We have RPMs, real
property maintenance accounts, that are supposed to be done
immediately, taken care of, and they are not doing it. We have barracks
in Fort Bragg where when it rains--and I was there when it rained--the
roof has been leaking now for years. They are unable to fix that
because they don't have the money to do it. Our troops are actually
lying down over their equipment to keep it from rusting. It is a
crisis.
You can go to the 21st TACOM over in Germany and look at our M-915
trucks. Many of them have over a million miles on them. They are
spending as much in maintenance on each one over the next 3 years as it
would take to buy a brand new truck. It is a crisis that we don't have
the money to buy new trucks when we need them. It is not feasible to do
it that way, but that is our only choice.
We don't have spare parts for airplanes. The cannibalized rate is
higher than ever before. That means they bring in a crated F-100 engine
to be put into an F-l6, and in order to keep the F-l6 there running
with a fairly recent engine, they have to rob parts from this. It is
highly labor intensive. Consequently, we are having a problem in
retention that is not only with pilots, which is an-all time low, but
also the mechanics putting those parts in.
Our pilot retention in the Navy right now is below 20 percent. It
costs between $6 million and $9 million to train each one of them. Yet
over 80 percent of them are leaving and not taking the second full tour
of duty. The mechanics fixing the planes are leaving, too. I have
talked to these people, and they say this country has lost its sense of
mission. It is not keeping its strength. We can't buy bullets for guns.
Talk to the Air Force people who go out to the red flag exercises at
Nellis in the desert. They have cut them down so they don't believe
they are getting the necessary training to be combat ready and to
compete.
Look at our modernization program. Now we have been cutting back on
the Crusader Program, which the Army believes is the crown jewel--that
thing we have to have for our launching capability on the ground. Look
at our modernization program in airplanes. I was never more proud of a
four-star general than I was the other day when he stood up and said
America needs to know that the Russians now have the SU-34, an air-to-
air, air combat vehicle
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that is better than anything we have, including the F-15.
The average American would say we are fine and we have the very best
of equipment. We used to, but we don't now. Look at the ranges we have
now. We are faced with an issue of having to close--temporarily, I
hope--the firing range on Vieques. That is going to have a dramatic
effect on which installations to keep open. We won't have anyplace to
have live fire training. We will lose such ranges as Cape Wrath in
Scotland, Capo Teulada in southern Sardinia. Why? Because there is no
justification to allow us to fire our artillery if we are not willing
to do it on our own lands.
All of these things form a crisis. When I said I look back wistfully
at the days of the cold war, it isn't just me. I was redeemed the other
day at our subcommittee meeting when we had George Tenet, the Director
of Central Intelligence, there. This happened to be telecast live on C-
SPAN. I said:
Right now, we are in the most threatened position that we
have been in as a Nation in the history of this country since
the Revolutionary War. Would you respond to that?
He said:
Absolutely correct. We are in the most threatened position.
It is because of the combined reasons of deployments, force strength
and, of course, not having the national missile defense systems. All
those will be elements of rebuilding. Who knows what our needs are
going to be when we start this rebuilding. I hope the next President
will be a Republican, and that we will be in a position to rebuild our
defense system. When that happens, we don't know what the elements of
that system are going to be.
Lastly--and I don't want to overdo the time here--we are asked this
question by the distinguished Senator from Arizona: I challenge my
colleagues to name any military expert who says we should not have
another BRAC round.
You can name a lot of them.
The Assistant Secretary of Defense under Ronald Reagan said in an
article in the Washington Post on May 14, 1998, when we were having the
same debate, that Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen is correct when
he says that the Department of Defense needs the support of Congress to
have a cost-effective national defense. But the Secretary is blaming
Congress for problems that are not of its making. More importantly,
Cohen is ignoring the administration's own complicity in creating
funding difficulties for defense and vastly is exaggerating the
potential problems that could occur if Congress fails to heed his
advice. Cohen wants Congress to authorize two new rounds of base
closures to free up an additional $3 billion a year for buying badly
needed new weapons. But what Cohen has not stated is that these savings
would not begin until a decade from now.
I think that is the significant thing. These savings would set in
after a period of time that we would be going through this rebuilding
process.
I hold him up as one expert who says we should not do a round at this
time.
Another is the Commandant of the Marine Corps, Gen. Jim Jones, who
said that he knew of no Marine installation he would recommend for
closure. He said: We cannot give it away or we will never get it back.
I don't think anyone is going to say that Gen. Jim Jones is not a
military expert. He has one of the most distinguished careers of any of
them.
Adm. Jay L. Johnson, the CNO, said his view was ``not far'' from that
of Jones. He said he is concerned about permanently losing training
ranges, air space, and access to the sea.
The Chief of the Army, General Shinseki, said he would support some
closures in the future but said that the Army needs to decide what its
future force level is going to be before it can judge base
consolidation with certainty.
We have three of the four chiefs of our services saying if we are
going to do it we should wait and do it after we determine what our
force strength should be in the future and not do it before that time.
For the combination of those reasons, there is certainly no rush to
do it and do it in this bill. Certainly I would be willing to talk
about this after the next administration comes in. It wouldn't make any
difference anyway because the first round wouldn't be until 2003.
I think Dick Armey did a wonderful job back in 1987. I think it
served a very useful purpose--particularly the first three BRAC rounds
that we were able to accomplish. They saved a lot of money. We are now
enjoying some of the savings. However, the amounts that we saved have
far exceeded what we lost by the cleanup costs. I don't think those
estimates would be anymore accurate if we were to go through two new
rounds.
Keep in mind that every succeeding round is going to yield fewer
benefits than the round before. I certainly think the Senator from
Rhode Island, with his background and experience, knows that if you are
going to start a closing process, you pick off the cherries to start
with and accumulate those savings.
I conclude by saying that we need to look at them in the next
administration after we find out what our force strength is going to
be, and after we find out what degree of rebuilding we will have to
undergo in order to protect America and meet the minimum expectations
of the American people.
I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Rhode Island.
Mr. REED. Mr. President, I seek to be recognized under the time of
Senator McCain.
Mr. LEVIN. Mr. President, I am authorized to yield the Senator from
Rhode Island whatever time he may need.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Rhode Island.
Mr. REED. Thank you, Mr. President.
Mr. President, I rise in support of this amendment to authorize two
rounds of base closings in the years 2003 and 2005. I commend
particularly Senator McCain and Senator Levin, the prime sponsors of
this legislation.
We all realize that base closing is a very sensitive issue because it
affects dramatically all of the communities that have military
installations. My home State, as some States, has not been immune to
base closings. We had a significant presence of the Navy in
Narragansett Bay. That presence has been diminished over the last
several years. But we still have a strong and vibrant naval presence in
the form of the Naval War College, and the Naval Underseas Warfare
Laboratory. All of these contribute significantly not only to our
national defense but to our economy in Rhode Island.
We approach this understanding that it is a very sensitive issue. But
it is an issue that we must address. It is an issue that requires
determination at this point so we can, indeed, free up the resources
that are necessary for the modernization of our services.
The reality is quite compelling that we have excess capacity in our
military establishment in terms of infrastructure. We have reduced the
force structure by 36 percent since 1989. Yet we only managed to reduce
the infrastructure--the buildings and the facilities--by 21 percent.
This mismatch is obvious. This mismatch causes us to continue to spend
in maintenance and operational expenses hundreds of millions of dollars
a year minimally for facilities that we don't need. As a result, I
think we have to recognize that we should authorize another round of
base closings. The Department of Defense estimates they are maintaining
23 percent of excess infrastructure which is sapping resources that
they could use for a host of critical needs--modernization, training,
and quality of life for servicemen and servicewomen throughout our
military.
Indeed, we hear so often that one of the persistent complaints is
that Government should be as business; that Government should be run as
efficiently as business. No business would suggest that it reduce its
personnel dramatically and not make comparable reductions in the
infrastructure and the facilities that have been in place for more than
50 years, in many cases.
We still have the residue of the World War II buildup. There were so
many posts put up because we had to at that point train millions of
soldiers, sailors, airmen, and coastguardsmen to staff an Army that was
many, many times larger than it is today and a Navy that was comparably
larger. Yet those facilities are still on our rolls because we had been
unable to effectively initiate base-closing rounds after our first few
rounds.
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We know that the base-closing process yields savings. It has been
estimated by the Department of Defense that past closures will produce
net savings of about $14 billion by the end of the fiscal year 2001,
and they estimate annual savings thereafter will be about $5.7 billion.
This is the result of decisions we already made, base-closing rounds
that have already taken place, and the bases that have already been
closed. That is a lot of money, particularly as we all are concerned
about additional resources for defense.
Another way to look at that is to consider how much more difficult it
would be to buy new platforms, to provide pay increases, and to enhance
the quality of life through improved houses and through improved health
care if we were still maintaining and spending billions of dollars on
these facilities that have been closed.
The Department of Defense estimates that two additional rounds of
base closings would generate annual savings of about $23 billion after
they are implemented. Again, those are significant resources that can
be used for programs that we consider to be critical to the defense of
the Nation and the well-being of our men and women in uniform.
Both the Congressional Budget Office and the GAO agree that the
Department of Defense continues to maintain excess capacity and that
base closings will result in substantial savings. These are objective
analyses of the current situation with respect to bases in our country.
The argument has been made that, well, we go out and we close these
bases, and all of the savings are just eaten up by environmental
remediation. I remind everyone that the requirement to remediate the
environment is not a function of closing the bases. It is an ongoing
responsibility of the Department of Defense. It is mandated regardless
of whether a base remains open or closed. It is part of our lore.
The Defense Department, as every other Federal entity and private
entity, has responsibilities to restore degraded environment.
What happens in a base closing is, as part of the process not only to
close the base but also to make the base useful for civilian pursuits
and community economic development, this environmental cleanup is
accelerated. One could argue that accelerated environmental cleanup
simply discharges a duty that already exists and also, importantly,
makes these facilities much more amenable to economic development and
private benefit for the local communities, which is a plus, not a
minus.
The issue before the Senate should be addressed, as we so often
address it, in the context of advice we have received from individuals
charged with the administration of our military policy. The Secretary
of Defense, the service secretaries, and many others have commented
upon the desirability of the additional base closing rounds. In his
testimony before the Armed Services Committee on February 8 of this
year, General Shelton, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs stated: We continue
to have excess infrastructure, and any funds applied toward maintaining
unneeded facilities diminish our capacity to redirect those funds
towards higher priority modernization programs.
At the same hearing, Secretary of Defense Cohen requested funding to
implement two more BRAC rounds, so that: scarce defense dollars will
not continue to be spent on excess infrastructure; rather, on the vital
needs of our Armed Forces.
Some of my colleagues argue that the base-closing process is
appropriate, the need is there, but the base-closing process in 1994
was politically tainted; that politics and not sound defense policy
dictated what would stay open, what would be closed, and the schedule
for closures.
This amendment clearly obviates the potential for that by declaring
that the base-closing rounds will take place in the year 2003 and in
2005. There will be a new administration. Any aspersions to the
operations of this administration should have no effect whatever when
we consider the legislation included in this amendment.
I believe we can go forward with the notion that if we act today, we
will have a much firmer picture of our strategic challenges, our
strategic posture by the year 2003, so that we will in fact be
anticipating those strategic decisions by giving our military leaders,
both civilian and military, the tools to implement their concepts to
meet the new challenges, the new threats we see all around the world.
This issue, as I said, is difficult. It impinges on the communities
we all represent. Anytime we authorize a base closing round,
essentially we put all of our facilities in play. We all run the risk
of losing a facility which is a vital part of our community, disrupting
our community. But that is the very narrow view, a very parochial view.
The broader national view is that we need to eliminate the excess
capacity. We need to free up resources for higher priority initiatives
of the Department of Defense. We need, also, to move away from this
essentially still World War II infrastructure to a much more reduced
but more efficient logistical and facility base for the future of this
new century. Until we are able to eliminate some of these older posts,
some of these posts that were designed for and that were extremely
important in World War II and throughout the cold war years, we will
not have the resource to do what we have to do to face the future.
I suggest we adopt this amendment because it gives us the ability to
fund higher priority functions. It gives us the ability to eliminate
unnecessary facilities. We simply can't have it both ways. We can't
continue to argue for modernization, for enhancement of the quality of
life for our troops, for additional training dollars, and still cling
to facilitates that are not needed, still insist that we maintain a
World War II and cold war infrastructure as we face the challenges of
this new century.
I urge my colleagues to support this amendment, give our defense
leaders the tools to reduce their overhead as they have reduced the
force structure, so that we have a more efficient, more effective
military force for this new century.
I yield the floor.
Mr. LEVIN. How much time do the proponents have?
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Eight minutes.
Mr. LEVIN. I yield 6 minutes to the Senator from Ohio.
Mr. VOINOVICH. I rise today to support the amendment offered by my
distinguished colleagues, Senator McCain and Senator Levin.
Between fiscal year 2000 and fiscal year 2001, defense spending in
our Nation will increase by more than 6 percent, nearly three times the
rate of inflation. Under normal circumstances, I would likely oppose
legislation that would increase defense spending at such a rate.
However, we have a crisis in the military right now with respect to
readiness, recruitment, retention, procurement, modernization; and the
crisis must be met immediately. I will support more money for defense.
Having said that, I believe in the long term the Defense Department
must focus on those activities that will help bring down their overall
costs. Part of the problem we run into in this body is our inability to
admit that priorities can and should be established by the Department
of Defense. We need to focus on ways in which the Department can cut
back on some of its expenditures and use the moneys allocated more
wisely. In other words, we need to get a bigger bang for our buck. We
need to work harder and smarter, and we need to do more with less.
One of the ways we can do that is to eliminate those military
facilities that no longer serve a useful purpose. I know that is not
easy. We have experienced the pain of closing bases in Ohio with the
closure of Newark Air Force Base, Rickenbacker Air National Guard Base,
and the Defense Electronic Supply Center. Even with the closures and
the pain we went through, we understood that it was necessary if we
were going to allocate resources where they were really needed in the
Department of Defense.
According to a 1998 Department of Defense report, and as stated by
Secretary of Defense William Cohen, our Armed Forces currently have 23
percent more military base capacity than is needed in this Nation.
Think of that, 23 percent. Keeping this much extra capacity adds up.
Right now, we spend billions of dollars annually. We will keep on
spending that money until we
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acknowledge that we have excess capacity and exercise the will to shut
it down.
As difficult as this may sound, we have been through this process
before. We know that. The Department of Defense reports that because of
the base closings that have been conducted, we will have saved $14
billion a year by the end of 2001. The projected net savings, annual
savings, for the first four rounds have been estimated at nearly $5.7
billion in fiscal year 2001, a savings that should occur annually. We
have that money, and it has been reallocated.
This amendment initiates another two rounds of base closings in 2003
and 2005. In his testimony earlier this year before the Armed Services
Committee, Secretary Cohen stated that if we initiate two more rounds
of base closings, this will save about $3 billion per year that we can
use for some of the needs we have today in our Defense Department.
I am here today to urge my colleagues to support this amendment. I
think there are those who say we ought not to do it at this time. I
think we all know that if we don't get started now and start the
procedure and do it today, do it this year, we are not going to be able
to move forward in 2003 and 2005 when we project the base closings will
occur.
I say again, I know this is a tough amendment to support for some of
my colleagues, but for the good of our Nation I urge my colleagues to
support this amendment.
Ms. SNOWE. Mr. President, I rise today in strong opposition to this
amendment that seeks to authorize two additional BRAC rounds in fiscal
years 2003 and 2005.
I have been a steadfast opponent to future BRAC proposals. This
Administration has proposed BRAC legislation for the last 3 years. Each
year, this administration has asked us to address the same issue. Yet
over the last three years, nothing has changed.
First, the estimated savings achieved by closing bases are just
that--estimated; and second, the inconsistent application of the BRAC
process--which this Administration so readily demonstrated after the
1995 round, will result in lost training areas or access to airspace or
the sea space by our military forces. This will result in degraded
force readiness and will be to the overall detriment of our Armed
Forces.
Advocates of base closures allege that billions of dollars will be
saved, despite the fact that there is no consensus on the numbers among
different sources. These estimates vary because, as the Congressional
Budget Office explains, BRAC savings are really ``avoided costs.''
Because these avoided costs are not actual expenditures and cannot be
recorded and tracked by the DoD accounting systems, they cannot be
validated which has lead to inaccurate and overinflated estimates.
For example, as revealed by the General Accounting Office, land sales
from the first base closure round in 1988 were estimated by Pentagon
officials to produce $2.4 billion in revenue, however, as of 1995, the
actual revenue generated was only $65.7 million. That is about 25
percent of the expected value. And what was the real up-front cost to
generate these so called savings? No one really knows.
This type of overly optimistic accounting establishes a very poor
foundation for initiating a policy that will have a permanent impact on
both the military and the civilian communities surrounding these bases.
I also want to address the issue of the up-front costs involved in
the base closure process. This appears to be noticeably absent from the
debate. The facts reveal that there are billions of dollars in costs
incurred to close a base.
This includes over $1 billion in Federal financial assistance
provided to each affected community--a cost paid by the Federal
Government, not through BRAC budget accounts, and therefore is not
counted in the estimates. And more significantly, there is $9.6 billion
in environmental cleanup costs as a result of the first four BRAC
rounds--a conservative figure according to a December 1998 GAO report--
a number that will continue to grow.
The administration and proponents of additional BRAC rounds are quick
to point out that reducing infrastructure has not kept pace with our
post cold war military force reductions. They say that bases must be
downsized proportionate to the reduction in total force strength.
However, this thinking is based on the 1997 Quadrennial Defense
Review. Since the end of the cold war we have reduced the military
force structure by 36 percent and have reduced the defense budget by 40
percent. But now I ask you how much are we employing that force?
Let me point out that although the size of the armed services has
decreased, the number of contingencies that our service members have
been called upon to respond to has dramatically increased--the Navy/
Marine Corps team alone responded to 58 contingency missions between
1980 and 1989, and between 1990 and 1999 they responded to 192--a
remarkable threefold increase!
During the cold war, the U.N. Security Council rarely approved the
creation of peace operations. The U.N. implemented only 13 such
operations between 1948 and 1978, and none from 1979 to 1987. Since
1988, by contrast, 38 peace operations have been established--nearly
three times as many than the previous 40 years.
In hearing after hearing this year, the Armed Services Committee has
heard from our leaders in uniform how our current military forces are
being stretched too thin, and that estimates predicted in the fiscal
year 1997 QDR underestimated how much the United Sates would be using
its military. Clearly, the benefits of the peace dividend are not being
realized.
So, we are seeing first hand that the 1997 QDR force levels
underestimated how much our military force was intended to be used,
that our military force is being called upon now more than what
military strategies estimated, and that our forces are being stretched
to cover a wide range of operations.
These force levels have to be revisited, and if the trend for current
deployments remains true, I would expect that these force levels may
have to be increased. So would we then go and buy back this property
that we have given up in future BRAC rounds to build new bases--I think
not.
Before we legislate defense-wide policy that will reduce the size and
number of training areas critical to our force readiness, the
Department of Defense needs a comprehensive plan that identifies the
operational and maintenance infrastructure required to support the
services national security requirements. The peacekeeping and
humanitarian missions clearly require a greater force structure than
expected.
It has become clear that we are committing more military forces--and
more often--than we had planned or anticipated. There is no straight
line corollary between the size of our forces and the infrastructure
required to support them.
We must realize that once property is given up and remediated, it is
permanently lost as a military asset for all practical purposes. In the
words of the Chief of Naval Operations, ``we cannot give it away or we
will never get it back''.
In the full committee hearings and the subcommittee hearings that the
Armed Services Committee held this past year, the Chief of Naval
Operations and fleet commanders testified that the QDR established
force levels are not sufficient to support their operational
requirements. A report released earlier this year by the Chairman of
the Joint Chiefs of Staff concluded that the submarine force levels
needed to be raised from the 1997 Quadrennial Defense Review and I
anticipate that the next QDR will support an increase in the ``300
ship'' Navy as well.
Therefore, given the elasticity in the QDR numbers, it would be
premature and costly to base permanent BRAC decisions on estimates that
we know are not being realized.
Finally, it would be hypocritical to say that opponents of additional
BRAC rounds are politicizing the process. Politics weigh heavily on
both sides of the debate. In December 1998, the General Accounting
Office reported that of the 499 recommendations made by the four BRAC
commissions, 48 were amended and removed from the closure list. And we
are all well aware of the Administration's ``intervention'' in the last
round that resulted in the ``privatization-in-place'' of the McClellan
and Kelly Air Force Base depots instead of their closure.
I want to protect the military's critical readiness and operational
assets. I
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want to protect the home port berthing for our ships and submarines,
the airspace that our aircraft fly in and the training areas and ranges
that our armed forces require to support and defend our Nation. We
cannot degrade the readiness of our armed forces by chasing illusive
savings.
I reaffirm my opposition to legislation authorizing additional BRAC
rounds and encourage my colleagues to join me to vote against it. I
urge my colleagues to defeat this amendment.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Virginia.
Mr. WARNER. Mr. President, Senator Inhofe, I believe, desires some
time, and then I will yield to Senator Hatch for 10 minutes.
Mr. INHOFE. Mr. President, if I can respond to a couple of the
statements of the Senator from Ohio and the Senator from Rhode Island,
first of all, I know the Senator from Rhode Island is sincere when he
says this would not take place until 2003; it would be a new
administration. But we have to keep in mind that administration could
very well be a Gore administration. It was Vice President Gore who was
very instrumental in politicizing the system before. I think that is
significant.
I would say also to my friend from Ohio, while there are savings that
would be effected, the savings, according to Secretary Cohen, would not
even start until 2008. By that time, we are hoping we will have been
able to use every available dollar to get us out of the situation we
are in right now. I think that is very significant. Our crisis is now.
Our crisis is a rebuilding program for the next 4 to 5 years.
I yield.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Utah.
Mr. HATCH. Mr. President, as somebody who lived through the last BRAC
process, and lived through it in a very intensive way, I have to say
the process did not work. Everyone lost: the taxpayers, the workers in
Utah, as well as those in the losing states of California and Texas,
and the Air Force's state of military readiness. The process was too
politicized, as I elaborate upon in my later remarks. It was a pitiful
exercise, in many respects.
There were some good things about it, I have to acknowledge, but most
of it was not.
Utah had the Air Force's highest rated air logistics command in the
nation, bar none. Nobody could compare with it. It was listed No. 1. It
made the top of every chart. The workforce and its achievements were
models of efficiency. But, after the President finished tampering with
the BRAC results, we had to fight like dogs against raging wolves to
prove repeatedly what the BRAC had already determined.
No sooner did we get through all that process--time after time
appearing at hearings, appearing at major meetings considering BRAC,
and considering what should be done, making our case over and over, and
winning, winning, winning--this administration came in and immediately
undertook questionable steps to sully the BRAC process.
My experience gives me little confidence in this process. And it's
not done yet: we won't have the process completed until late 2001, six
years after the BRAC decision. I do not care who is in charge. When you
politicize the base closing process, it just leads to the type of
anquish I and my colleagues are expressing here today.
How can we forget the major problems between San Antonio and
McClellan, both of which were installations important to their
respective States but did not reach the high standards of Utah's Hill
Air Force Base. If Hill Air Force Base had come in last, I would not be
here arguing today, nor back then, to keep it alive.
Let's not forget that we need high military readiness--it is a
deterrent that allows for peace through strength. But that means having
a system that accentuates everything that is good about our military,
like Hill Air Force Base. I would not back a base that was not doing
the job.
But in this particular case, McClellan had been judged by the Air
Force and the BRAC commssion as deficient, as was the San Antonio Air
Logistics Center at Kelly Air Force Base, Texas. Yet, we wanted to help
Kelly, if we could, because it had a high percentage of Hispanic
workers. But the brutal facts showed that Kelly could not measure up.
Neither did McClellan.
Then came the administration's misguided and downright wrongful
attempts to save some of those jobs.
Mr. President, Ronald Reagan immediately comes to mind when I
consider today's debate on BRAC . . . ``Here we go again.'' We're being
asked to engage in the same type of taxpayer deception that
characterized the 1995 BRAC. We promise savings, and deliver nothing.
All BRAC produces is a politicized outcome that makes a mockery of the
independent commission process.
We need to remind ourselves why we sought a BRAC in the first place:
It was because we did not feel Congress could be trusted. In fact, it
was the President who couldn't be trusted. Let's look at some facts,
facts especially painful to states which lost bases, and those that had
to defend what they had won again, again and again. I refer to Utah's
Ogden Air Logistics Center at Hill AFB--three times we had to compete
for workloads that the BRAC awarded us, but which the President delayed
sending to Utah.
The President intervened in the BRAC 95 process to secure
California's 54 electoral votes in the 1996 election. My good friends
from California--Senators Boxer and Feinstein--publicly stated that
they would get relief from the White House after BRAC decided to close
McClellan Air Force Base in Sacramento. They succeeded, and at the cost
of work that ought to have gone to Georgia and Utah, but which was
delayed.
The President called the BRAC decision to close McClellan an
``outrage'', in a Rose Garden statement. He actually rejected the
decision of his own independent commission. In its place, the President
put great pressure on the Air Force to sully an already messy
situation. He called this ``privatization in place.'' He attempted to
keep the jobs which were intended to be distributed to Utah, Oklahoma
and Georgia in California by forcing a public-private competition that
GAO rejected as unfair. It had the effect of leaving in California as
many as 3,200 jobs for as long as six years after the BRAC decision, or
conveniently after the year 2000 presidential election.
The BRAC monies designated to move jobs and equipment to Utah and
elsewhere were mismanaged. They were spent to improve the very
facilities at McClellan AFB that the BRAC had intended to close! This,
the President and his gang thought, would make it easier for the base
to attract private contractors to perform the privatized work in place.
The delay caused by this contrived competition cost the taxpayers an
additional $500 million, according to GAO, to sustain the bases'
workloads in place, despite the decision of BRAC to ship the workloads
to the other Air Force depots.
In May 1998, as many of you will remember, the Secretary of the Air
Force was embarrassed by a memo written by his office urging that the
Lockheed-Martin bid for the California work win the award. This
behavior, to my mind, remains one of the most egregious violations of
the Ethics Reform Act I have seen in my 24 years in the Senate. This
act prohibits precisely the type of collusion in which the Secretary of
the Air Force participated.
It was so outrageous that Secretary Bill Cohen, to his everlasting
credit, removed the Secretary of the Air Force from the selection team
that would oversee the public-private competition for the McClellan
workload.
But this was not the end of the Clinton Administration's meddling:
they directed the Air Force to deny the GAO, the congressional watchdog
agency responsible for overseeing the expenditure of taxpayers' funds,
access to the cost-data and other information used by the Air Force to
put together competition for the McClellan workload.
As might be expected, the long-term effect of this mischievous
meddling had a cost on readiness. Delays in workload transfer were
directly responsible for a severe F-16 parts shortage in 1999. Also,
there is a suspicious relationship between the delayed workload
transfer and the KC-135 tanker problems early this year when the fleet
was grounded because of a rear stabilizer malfunction, a problem akin
to the cause of the Alaskan Airline aircraft off the California coast.
My personal inquiry into the KC-135 issue demonstrated that if the
entire KC-135 team responsible for
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the repair of this part of the aircraft had been transferred to Utah in
a timely way, as directed by the BRAC, the design flaw would probably
never have occurred.
There is an answer to BRAC: let Congress endorse the decisions of the
military services, without the filter of presidential intervention,
whether by a BRAC-like commission or any other procedure. The military
services know better than any other body the best and the worst of
their installations, the ones that pay their own way, and the ones that
drain the taxpayers' pockets. After my state's experience with the BRAC
process, I am more inclined to trust this body to evaluate the
services' recommendations.
I see that we have a very important guest. I will be happy to yield
the floor at this time for Senator Helms.
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