[Congressional Record Volume 146, Number 68 (Tuesday, June 6, 2000)]
[Senate]
[Pages S4510-S4514]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]
LEGISLATIVE AGENDA
Mr. DURBIN. Mr. President, in the time that remains in morning
business, which I will share with my colleague from California, we will
address several of the issues which still remain before this session of
Congress. Many of us are just returning from a Memorial Day break which
we spent with our families back in our States, trying to acquaint
ourselves with the concerns of people and the concerns about issues we
face here in Washington.
One of the concerns in the State of Illinois and in the city of
Chicago continues to be gun violence. This is still a phenomenon which
is almost uniquely American and which is tragic in its proportion. To
think we lose 12 or 13 children every day to gun violence, that is a
sad reminder of what happened at Columbine High School in Littleton,
CO, a little over a year ago, when some 13 students were killed at that
school. It is merely one instance of a situation which repeats itself
every single day.
It has been more than a year since that tragedy, but still this
Congress refuses to act on sensible gun safety legislation. I remind
those who are following this debate, the proposal for this gun safety
legislation is hardly radical. If people are going to buy a gun from a
gun dealer in America, they are subjected to a background check. We
want to know if they are criminals. We want to know if they have a
history of violent crime or violent mental illness or if they are too
young to buy a gun--basic questions. I understand that, as of last
year, over 250,000 would-be purchasers of guns were denied that
opportunity as a result of a simple background check.
Did they turn around and buy a gun on the street? It is possible. But
we should not make it easy for them. It should not be automatic. In
fact, I hope in many instances, having been denied at a gun dealer,
they could not find a gun nor should they have been able to. We believe
applying the same standard of gun safety legislation to gun shows just
makes common sense.
So that is part of the gun safety legislation we passed in the Senate
by a vote of 49-49, and a tie-breaking vote was cast by Vice President
Al Gore. That bill left the Senate over 8 months ago, went over to the
House of Representatives where it was emasculated by the gun lobby,
where the National Rifle Association would not accept the basic idea
that we should check on the backgrounds of people who buy guns at gun
shows.
The National Rifle Association believes those who go into gun shows
should be able to buy a gun with no questions asked. That is just
fundamentally unfair and ignorant. That position prevailed in the House
of Representatives. The matter went to a conference committee where it
has languished ever since.
Since Columbine High School, thousands of Americans have been killed
by gunfire. Until we act, Democrats in the Senate will, each day, read
the names of some, just some, who lost their lives to gun violence in
the past year and will continue to do so every day the Senate is in
session.
In the names of those who died, we will continue this fight, and in
the names of their families who still grieve their losses, we will
continue to remember these victims of gun violence.
Following are the names of some of the people who were killed by
gunfire 1 year ago today, on June 6, 1999, at a time after the Senate
passed gun safety legislation:
Earnest Barnes, 38, Atlanta, GA; Quentin A. Brown, 29, Chicago, IL;
Dexter J. Caruthers, 46, Gary, IN; George Cook, 19, Minneapolis, MN;
Don Ferguson, 80, Oakland, CA; Juan J. Gonzales, 28, Oklahoma City, OK;
Mark S. Hansher, 33, Madison, WI; Joseph Jainski, 34, Philadelphia, PA;
Maurice Lewis, 29, Philadelphia, PA; Donald Norrod, 67, Akron, OH;
Allen Ringgold, 23, Baltimore, MD; Lawanza Robertson, 18, Detroit, MI;
Agapito Rodriquez, 32, Dallas, TX; Jonathan Shields, 31, Washington,
DC; Clarence Veasley, 44, St. Louis, MO; Kirk Watkins, Detroit, MI.
In addition, since the Senate was not in session this year from May
26 to June 5, I ask unanimous consent the names be printed in the
Record of some of those who were killed by gunfire last year on the
days from May 26 through June 5:
There being no objection, the material was ordered to be printed in
the Record, as follows:
may 26, 1999
Demarcus Clark, 22, Atlanta, GA.
Delmar Guyton, 23, Detroit, MI.
Shawn Timothy Hamilton, 35, Washington, DC.
James Johnson, 24, Denver, CO.
William Partlow, 26, Charlotte, NC.
Shayne Worcester, San Francisco, CA.
may 27, 1999
Steve T. Fleming, 27, New Orleans, LA.
Bruce Harvard, 19, Pittsburgh, PA.
Kewan McKinnie, 19, Detroit, MI.
Victorria Moore, 41, San Antonio, TX.
Bobby Piggle, 39, Kansas City, MO.
Ramona Richins, 47, Salt Lake City, UT.
Kevin Sellers, 25, Baltimore, MD.
Termell Wollen, 31, Detroit, MI.
Unidentified male, 24, Norfolk, VA.
Unidentified male, 25, Norfolk, VA.
may 28, 1999
Raymond Adams, 30, Philadelphia, PA.
Carrillo Ambbrocio, 32, Houston, TX.
Luz Balbona, 59, Miami-Dade County, FL.
Jimmy Cottingham, 30, Washington, DC.
Armando Garcia, 16, San Bernardino, CA.
Ignacio Gonzalez, Sr., 42, Chicago, IL.
Terrell Hatfield, 21, Seattle, WA.
Donnell Holmes, 25, Miami-Dade County, FL.
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Jose Reyes, 18, Hempstead, NY.
Angela Yglesias, 18, Detroit, MI.
may 29, 1999
David D. Adams, 36, New Orleans, LA.
Michael Cal Andretti, 29, St. Paul, MN.
William Berry, 56, Philadelphia, PA.
Vincent Domingeuez, 42, Louisville, KY.
Alayito Finney, 30, Detroit, MI.
Bruce Goldberg, 39, Philadelphia, PA.
Joseph Jenkins, 22, Charleston, SC.
Dil Kahn, 57, Houston, TX.
Roberto Lauret, 30, Miami-Dade County, FL.
Craig Nelson, 34, Philadelphia, PA.
Gregory Ramseth, 33, Seattle, WA.
James Thurston, III, 19, Miami-Dade County, FL.
Roger Vincent, 44, Mesquite, TX.
Unidentified male, 35, Long Beach, CA.
may 30, 1999
Lawrence Albeniaic, 45, New Orleans, LA.
Ryan Bailey, 19, Baltimore, MD.
Maxine Bedell, 82, Rochester, NY.
Melco Botache, 33, Miami-Dade County, FL.
Henry Carter, 48, Detroit, MI.
Savatore Damico, 33, Baltimore, MD.
Lovell Daniely, 27, Philadelphia, PA.
David Davidson, 38, St. Louis, MO.
Frank Evans, 18, Chicago, IL.
Rico Montgomery, 24, Detroit, MI.
Antonio Munoz, 17, Providence, RI.
Phyllis Robinson, 38, Chicago, IL.
Brandy Smith, 18, Houston, TX.
may 31, 1999
Elizabeth K. Burlan, 55, New Orleans, LA.
Anthony Clay, 40, Atlanta, GA.
Gregory Clay, 40, Atlanta, GA.
Edward Meno, 26, Oakland, CA.
Daron D. Mitchell, 18, Akron, OH.
Miriam Moses, 78, Miami-Dade County, FL.
Shane Newton, 26, Detroit, MI.
Curtis Smith, 26, Cincinnati, OH.
Anthony Wilson, 40, Philadelphia, PA.
Unidentified male, 18, Newark, NJ.
June 1, 1999
Jouvito Bravo, 19, Houston, TX.
Allen R. Darrington, 17, Kansas City, MO.
Martha Enrichez, 21, Dallas, TX.
Antoine Fowler, 21, Charlotte, NC.
Bruce Green, 36, Baltimore, MD.
Jewel Harvey, 49, Dallas, TX.
Johnny Howard, 26, Atlanta, GA.
Stephen Karawan, 53, Miami-Dade County, FL.
Michael Kitchins, 36, Dallas, TX.
Eric Lewis, 21, Detroit, MI.
Jamont Simmons, 22, Rochester, NY.
Jerona Stewart, 15, Washington, DC.
D'Andre Tizeno, San Francisco, CA.
Irene Zaragoza, 47, Houston, TX.
Unidentified male, 39, Honolulu, HI.
Unidentified male, 26, Nashville, TN.
June 2, 1999
Corey Ball, 28, San Antonio, TX.
Clarence A. Bellinger, 30, Chicago, IL.
Barbara Clark, 35, Chicago, IL.
Carlton Copeland, 23, Atlanta, GA.
Felipe Cruz, 26, Dallas, TX.
William Floyd, 18, Washington, DC.
Raymond Gonzales, 33, San Bernardino, CA.
Fairway Huntington, 41, Memphis, TN.
Craig Kallevig, 41, Minneapolis, MN.
Seven Lomax, 30, Philadelphia, PA.
Brian Meridith, 36, Mesquite, TX.
James Nelson, 23, Baltimore, MD.
Cecilia Pagaduan, 44, Daly City, CA.
Edwin Pagaduan, 44, Daly City, CA.
Mario Anthony Phillips, 26, St. Paul, MN.
Ricky Salizar, 12, Roswell, NM.
Kahlil J. Smith, 19, Memphis, TN.
June 3, 1999
Alberto Acosta, 36, Miami-Dade County, FL.
Scott Hughes, 24, Dallas, TX.
Samuel C. Johnson, 51, Seattle, WA.
Chang Dae Kim, Detroit, MI.
Rodney Nelson, 17, Detroit, MI.
Sammy Tate, 35, Chicago, IL.
Mario Wright, 19, Philadelphia, PA.
June 4, 1999
Recardo Aguilar, 23, Pittsburgh, PA.
Donald Carver, 43, Toledo, OH.
Carlos Casaway, 23, Detroit, MI.
Christopher Earl, 26, Knoxville, TN.
Fitzroy Farguharson, 35, Miami-Dade County, FL.
Al Jenkins, 28, Oakland, CA.
Derek D. Miller, 24, Memphis, TN.
Cesar Quevedo, 24, Pittsubrgh, PA.
Juan D. Rodriguez, 48, Houston, TX.
Earl Roos, 25, Oakland, CA.
Jose J. Santoyo, 20, Chicago, IL.
Abimbola Whitlock, 20, Oakland, CA.
June 5, 1999
Nancy Linda Akers, 45, Washington, DC.
Jeffrey Blash, 24, Miami-Dade County, FL.
Mary Kathleen Brady, 35, Cincinnati, OH.
Franco D. Davis, 22, Chicago, IL.
Patrick Dewar, 35, Philadelphia, PA.
Anthony Fletcher, 45, Macon, GA.
Walter Hill, 38, Detroit, MI.
Alice Hough, 54, Miami-Dade County, FL.
Maurice Jiles, 18, Gary, IN.
Fernando Perez, 29, Houston, TX.
Joseph Swinnie, 18, Washington, DC.
Victor Temores-Martinez, 30, Chicago, IL.
Shaun Tilghman, 24, Boston, MA.
Mr. DURBIN. Mr. President, at the National Rifle Association
convention, when it was brought up as an issue that so many young
people are killed every single day by gunfire in America, in addition
to those who are not so young, the people at the National Rifle
Association dismissed it and said these are teenage gang bangers and
drug criminals and you just have to expect, in the culture in which
they live, they are going to kill one another.
As I read this list of people ranging in age from 80 years to 18, it
is clear that the victims of gun violence are not just those who were
involved in crime in the inner city. Frankly, it involved Americans
across the board; Americans--black, white, and brown--of virtually
every age group. To dismiss this, as the National Rifle Association
did, as something we should not care about I think is evidence of their
insensitivity to this issue of gun violence.
Mrs. BOXER. Will the Senator yield for a couple questions?
Mr. DURBIN. I am happy to yield to the Senator from California.
Mrs. BOXER. I thank the Senator from Illinois for reading these names
into the Record, for putting a human face on what is a national
tragedy. He experienced this at home, and I did as well in California.
People are wondering just exactly what we are doing. Since Columbine,
we agreed to five sensible gun amendments, one of them to close the gun
show loophole, which would make it very difficult, if not impossible,
for criminals and children and people who are mentally unbalanced to
buy guns at gun shows; also, for example, to make sure that all
handguns are sold with safety locks, so if kids get hold of a gun,
there is no discharge of a bullet.
I want to engage my friend in a little colloquy. While we were gone
last week, there were two horrific stories, just two that made the
national news. God knows there were more.
One of them involved a student who was acting out on the last day of
school. He was throwing water balloons. And the teacher said: Listen,
you are just going to have to leave school. You don't belong here. We
don't have tolerance for this kind of behavior.
The child left school, went home; he told someone he was going to get
a gun. The child who was told this didn't believe it. Sure enough, he
went to his grandfather's stash of guns and got one. It had no safety
lock on it. He returned, and he killed a very wonderful, kind family
man, a teacher at the prime of his life, in his thirties.
Then we had the incident in Queens where a disgruntled employee
essentially executed people who worked at a Wendy's.
What do we do here? Nothing. We do nothing. I am listening for the
majority leader. We already passed these amendments in the Senate, and
the amendments are languishing in the committee. I say to my friend,
what are the American people to think about this inaction? I would like
him to comment on that. Then I have another question about the NRA
convention.
If my friend could comment, because he feels so strongly about this,
what are the American people thinking about the Senate and Congress,
controlled by Republicans, who do nothing about the issue of the
killing of our people at a far greater rate than our soldiers died in
Vietnam? We have a war in our streets. What do you think they should do
about it?
Mr. DURBIN. I can say to the Senator from California, as people
across the Nation refuse to vote in elections and lose respect for
those who are elected to public office, it is a clear indication, as
far as I am concerned, that they do not believe we are responsive. They
do not believe we are listening. They do not believe the problems that
families face across America are problems we share. They think we are
some sort of political elite that really is out of touch with the
world.
They understand in the cities and the suburbs across Illinois that
gun violence is an issue that affects so many lives. They wonder how
people can be elected to the Senate and not try to do something about
it.
I know the Senator from California agrees with me that even passing
this gun safety legislation will not eliminate gun violence, but we
hope it will reduce it.
It is a commonsense approach to reducing the ownership of guns by
people who should not own them. I believe--and I am sure the Senator
from California does, too--those who use guns legally and safely, such
as sportsmen and hunters, should be allowed to do so, but I do not
agree with the National
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Rifle Association of basically giving guns to everyone, no questions
asked, and hope for the best, and wants to see concealed weapons in
every place. Governor Bush decided he wanted concealed weapons to be
carried in churches and synagogues in the State of Texas. That strikes
me as a ridiculous situation.
Mrs. BOXER. Amusement parks as well.
Mr. DURBIN. Amusement parks. Think about the situation and wonder how
in the world can we have a safer America if we have this proliferation
of guns that is, obviously, supported by Governor Bush, as well as the
National Rifle Association. Democrats and Republicans should be
listening to families across this country.
To think gun violence has become so commonplace that we have accepted
it is a sad testament on this great Nation. If one looks at gun
violence statistics and says ``that is life,'' no, it is not. That is
life in America. That is not life in any other country in the world.
Virtually every civilized country in the world has basic gun safety
laws and gun control laws to keep guns out of the hands of those who
would misuse them and out of the hands of children. We live in a
country where a disgruntled 13- or 14-year-old goes home and finds
grandpa's gun, goes back to school, and kills a teacher. That is not
commonplace anyplace in the world but for the United States, which I do
not think we should accept, and our failure to do anything about it
feeds into the cynicism of America's voters and citizenry who think we
are elected to solve problems in this country. When we do not respond,
it is no wonder they lose faith in the process.
Mrs. BOXER. I say to my friend, what is extremely frustrating is the
talk we hear: Gee, it does not make any difference who gets elected. I
want to make a point straight from the shoulder, and I am known for
that. The fact is, every single Democrat voted for these sensible gun
measures, except one, and we had just a few on the other side join us.
There is a difference. I ask my friend if he happened to hear the NRA
convention speeches that were made or if he read them, and, if so, what
he thought. I was, frankly, stunned at the all-out personal attack on
Al Gore that I heard. I have no objection to people having differences.
If they want everyone to carry a concealed weapon, that is their choice
to make that decision. I do not think we want to see an America that is
a shootout at the OK Corral. I do not think that is going to make our
country great. But if somebody thinks that we all ought to pack a
weapon, that is their right, but to personally attack the Vice
President because he supports sensible gun control laws--which, by the
way, are supported by 80 percent of the people--to make this a
personal, vicious attack on Al Gore--and I read Wayne LaPierre's speech
and I read Charlton Heston's speech. They named Al Gore in the most
vicious way and attacked him in the most personal way.
I ask my friend if he would like to see this debate elevated above
these personalities. It is dangerous to start attacking people in such
a way, and I hope we can keep our disagreements over the issues rather
than attack a Vice President who is simply reflecting the views of 80
percent of the people.
When we hear the NRA executive say: When George Bush is elected, we
are going to operate out of the White House--that sends chills up and
down my spine. No group should operate out of the White House, whether
it is Sarah and Jim Brady's gun control group or the NRA. For them to
say when George Bush is elected they are going to work out of the White
House is a frightening thought to me.
I hope the American people will tune in to this and not say all the
candidates are alike and not say all of us are alike. They are not
going to find us perfect, that is for sure. No one is perfect. Doesn't
my friend believe this is an issue where there are serious differences
between the two parties?
Mr. DURBIN. I say to the Senator from California that she has
answered her own question: Why is the National Rifle Association
attacking the Democratic candidate for President? They made it clear.
The chairman of their organization, a gentleman from Iowa whose name I
do not have handy, made this announcement--in fact, it has been
videotaped and replayed--where he said: Listen, the choice for the
National Rifle Association in this Presidential race is clear. If
George Bush is elected President of the United States, the National
Rifle Association will have its man in the White House.
The Senator from California does not exaggerate. That is exactly what
he said.
What does it mean to have your person in the White House next to the
President? It means gun safety legislation does not have a chance. Not
a single thing is going to be passed by Congress that will not be
vetoed by George W. Bush.
Secondly, I hope the Senator from California will also reflect on
this, and that is, it is likely in the next Presidency two or three
Supreme Court Justices will be nominated. The National Rifle
Association is going to have its voice in that process if George Bush
is elected President. They will decide whether or not the Supreme Court
Justice nominee passes their litmus test, which basically says we
should sell guns in this country with no questions asked.
That is not a decision for 4 years; it is a decision for decades
because if the Supreme Court has a majority of that point of view, that
is going to affect the laws that are approved virtually across the
board at the State and Federal level.
When the National Rifle Association at their convention starts
ranting and raving about their choice for President, it is because they
are sick and tired of President Clinton, who has stood up for gun
safety as long as he has been in the White House. They are frightened
by the prospect of Vice President Gore becoming President and
continuing that tradition of supporting sensible gun safety
legislation. They want George W. Bush. They want their man in the White
House. They want to help pick the Supreme Court. You can bet as an
American, I am concerned that will increase the incidence of gun
violence in our country.
Mrs. BOXER. I thank my friend for raising the issue of the Supreme
Court. I should have raised it myself. He is so right on that point.
The Supreme Court up to now has, in fact, said it is OK for Congress to
work on gun laws that keep guns out of the hands of criminals and
children, and that it is not, in fact, a violation of the second
amendment because we say: Sure, if you are responsible and you need to
have a gun and you have a reason to have it--for recreation or to
defend your family--and you are a responsible gun owner, that is one
situation. But if you are a criminal, you are mentally unbalanced, if
you walk in and buy a gun, by the way, when you are high on drugs or
alcohol, this is not going to be good for this Nation. The Supreme
Court up to now has upheld our ability to regulate.
There is no question that with the NRA operating out of the George
Bush White House, we are going to see in the Congress not only a lack
of future progress on controlling these guns and who has these guns,
but we are going to see the Supreme Court tilt and say: Congress, you
have no business dealing with this issue.
I ask my friend this: If we have no other role to play, shouldn't it
be that we protect the health and the safety of the people of this
country? I know we are trying to get a Patients' Bill of Rights. This
is another issue for which we are fighting hard because that is our
sacred obligation, if nothing else.
We can have the greatest economy in the world, the best economy in
the world, people can be working and thriving, but if some child goes
home and gets his grandpa's gun and shoots a beautiful teacher in the
head, if some disgruntled employee who has a criminal record can get a
gun at a gun show, what good does it do if you have the best job and
the best future in the world?
My friend has read the names of people shot down in the prime of
their lives. We are supposed to live to our seventies, and a lot of
these people are shot down in their teens, in their twenties, or in
their thirties.
My friend is so right to raise this issue of the Supreme Court. I
thank him so much for engaging in this colloquy.
I know this talk is hard talk. By the way, it certainly raises our
names to the NRA; and that is not easy for us,
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either. But the fact is, I believe in my heart that the NRA gives a lot
of money to people in Government but there has to be some of us who
stand up. I am proud to say every single Democrat, many of whom
absolutely believe, as we do, in the right to gun ownership, have stood
strong and said we must keep guns out of the hands of children, the
mentally unbalanced, and people with criminal records.
I say this to my friend: This is a fight we are going to wage on this
floor. We are not going to let George Bush hide behind the fact that he
says nice things. I am amazed that the polls don't reflect that people
know what he stands for, making it possible to carry a concealed weapon
into a church--we had a horrible massacre in a Texas church--or into
hospitals. Why do you need a gun in a hospital--explain that to me--a
place of healing, a place of peaceful recuperation?
Why do you need a gun in a church? Why do you need a gun in a
hospital? What about an amusement park where there are so many kids
around? This makes no sense. He did it because the NRA wanted it done.
We have to speak the truth here if we are worth anything.
I thank my friend for speaking the truth, for reading the names of
those who died, and for bringing this issue day after day to the floor
of the Senate. I will be by his side.
Mr. DURBIN. I thank the Senator from California. She has made a
point, too, that I would like to follow up on. We have addressed this
issue of the safety of American families, to make sure that we try to
do everything that is reasonable to reduce gun violence.
There is also an issue of health not only related to gun violence but
in a larger context. We have several measures that are pending on
Capitol Hill that have been languishing for months: prescription drug
benefits, which we support. We believe that under Medicare the elderly
and the disabled should have a prescription drug benefit. To accomplish
that, it is certainly going to involve bipartisan cooperation. But we
have seen no leadership, none whatsoever, in this Congress.
What are they waiting for? We are now in the month of June. We are
talking about resolving a lot of the major issues before our August
recess for the conventions. In this short period of time, can we find
the political will to address a prescription drug benefit?
Let me add another that has been languishing for months: the
Patients' Bill of Rights, which basically says that each one of us, as
individuals and members of a family, should be able to walk into a
doctor's office and listen carefully to that medical professional,
receive their diagnosis and their recommendation, and follow it and not
be second-guessed by some insurance company.
I think that is so fundamental and so basic--that a woman who has an
obstetrician following her pregnancy, who wants to stay with the person
in whom she has confidence, will not lose that right because her
company decides to change its health insurance carrier; that someone
who wants to be involved in a clinical trial of a new experimental drug
for cancer, for example, that might save their life, cannot be denied
that opportunity by a health insurance company; that our access to
emergency rooms will not be denied because of the decisions of health
insurance company clerks.
We had a vote on the floor of the Senate. Overwhelmingly, the
American people support what I have said. We lost the vote but not
because we did not have support for our position. Three hundred
organizations supported the Democratic position on the Patients' Bill
of Rights, every major medical group in America. The nurses supported
our position. The doctors supported our position. Hospitals supported
our position. Yet we lost because one special interest group on the
other side prevailed--the insurance companies. They are the ones that
are making the profit out of these decisions that take quality care
away from families, which exalt the bottom line of profits, and ignore
basic health care needs.
This miserable bill that passed out of the Senate is headed over to
the House of Representatives. I am happy to report to you that a
substantial number of House Republicans said they were not going to
scrape and bow to the insurance industry; that they would stand with
American families and medical professionals so we have rights, a
Patients' Bill of Rights for America.
They passed a good bill, the Dingell-Norwood bill. John Dingell of
Michigan is legendary here on Capitol Hill. Congressman Charlie Norwood
is relatively new but is a Republican who has had the courage to stand
up and say: I think it is only right to say no to the insurance
companies and yes to American families on a Patients' Bill of Rights.
Let me read to you what Congressman Norwood said a few days ago about
the situation that has occurred where the Senate passed the insurance
industry bill and the House passed one that will help American
families; and nothing has happened since. This is what he said on May
25:
I'm here today to say time's up on the conference
committee. We've waited eight months for this committee to
approve a compromise bill. Senate Republicans--
This is a Congressman who is a Republican who is saying this about
his colleagues in the Senate:
Senate Republicans have yet to even offer a compromise
liability proposal--they have only demanded that the House
Conferees abandon their position.
He goes on to say:
If we don't get a bill, or at least a tentative agreement
in writing by the week we come back from Memorial Day, we
must move past the conference.
Congressman Norwood said:
Starting today, I am working as if that will be the case. I
am willing to pass this measure through any means necessary.
I say congratulations to this Republican Congressman who is standing
up to the Republican majority in the Senate, who is standing up to the
insurance industry, who is standing with the Democrats and with
American families. As on gun safety legislation, this health
legislation, important to families across America, has been stalled and
blockaded by the Senate Republican leadership. They do not want to even
address the issues that families across America care about.
You step back and say: Why in the world do men and women run to be
Members of this Senate if they are not willing to at least debate the
major issues, if not pass legislation to help families? But time and
time and time again, the Senate majority has blockaded, stopped, and
stalled every effort to deal with issues of health and safety.
And those are not the only ones. As to an increase in the minimum
wage, this is one of the most disgraceful things that has happened to
Congress in the last 10 or 12 years. It used to be when it came time
for an increase in the minimum wage--under President Reagan, for
example, it was done with little fanfare and little debate. It was done
on a bipartisan basis. We all believed that the men and women who got
up and went to work every day in America for a basic minimum wage
deserved an increase periodically to reflect the cost of living.
But the Republican-dominated Congress refuses to allow us to increase
this minimum wage. And 350,000 people in my State of Illinois got up
this morning and went to work for a minimum wage--$5.15 an hour--with
virtually no benefit protection.
I agree with Senator Kennedy, Senator Daschle, and so many others,
that we should increase this minimum wage as a matter of basic decency
a dollar an hour--50 cents a year for 2 years--so people who are trying
to keep their families together, trying to maintain their own standard
of living, have a chance to do it with an increased minimum wage.
Again, the Republican leadership in Congress refuses to let us bring up
this issue of the minimum wage.
Time and time again--gun safety legislation, a prescription drug
benefit under Medicare, a Patients' Bill of Rights to protect families
when they have the most basic and fundamental concerns about their
health, and a minimum wage--these issues have been stalled because the
Republican leadership refuses to bring them up for a vote. They know
the American people support it but there are special interest groups
that oppose each and every one of them.
The National Rifle Association has told them: Put the bar on the
door. We don't want any gun safety legislation. The insurance companies
have told
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them: We don't want a Patients' Bill of Rights. We are making a lot of
money under the current system. We don't want the doctors and the
nurses to make medical decisions. We want businesspeople to make them
based on profits. The pharmaceutical industry has told them they don't
want a prescription drug benefit to help the elderly and the disabled
pay for drugs they need to survive. When it comes to the minimum wage,
some people in the business community have said: We don't want to pay
anything more than $5.15 an hour. And we don't care what impact it has
on the employees.
That is the state of play that reflects the values and reflects the
choice the American people will have in this coming election as to
whether they want to see the Republican majority continue in Congress
and stop this basic legislation so important to every American family.
Mrs. BOXER. Will my friend yield on that point?
Mr. DURBIN. I am happy to yield.
Mrs. BOXER. Again, I thank my friend for connecting the dots. To
those Americans who say there is no difference between the parties,
there are no issues in this election, that it is a matter of who has
the best smile, I say that is not what it is about.
It is about issues that impact millions and millions of Americans;
30,000 Americans die every year of gunshots. My friend pointed out that
about 13 a day of those are children--children. The Democrats are
saying we need sensible gun laws, and our Republican friends are saying
we don't need anything, just hang it up in the conference committee and
say a few words here and let's move on. We will not let that issue die,
if you will, nor the Patients' Bill of Rights and prescription drugs.
Again, it is about millions of people.
What always fascinates me is my friends on the Republican side--oh,
they are tough on law and order. And I agree with them. I am as tough
as they come. I will support the death penalty for heinous crimes. But
when an HMO kills a patient because they won't approve the appropriate
test--and I have seen it time and time again in my State, where tests
for cancer were denied because they were expensive diagnostic tests,
and HMOs wind up essentially killing a patient because they got
treatment too late--they let them off the hook: We don't want the right
to sue. Let these people just walk away with maybe a slap on their
wrists.
Where is the outrage? Where is the outrage when people die because of
medical malpractice or an HMO not willing to invest in our people?
Take the issue of minimum wage, where people are actually living in
poverty. For goodness' sake, some in our military are on food stamps.
Yet our friends on the other side will vote for luxury jets to ferry
around the generals. I don't know where the shame is. I don't know
where the outrage is. I can only say that this is where it is today. It
is reflected in the Presidential race, and it is reflected in the
Senate races and in the congressional races.
I only ask the American people to wake up, regardless of what party
they are in, because that doesn't matter to me. These are not partisan
issues. These are issues of right and wrong. These are issues of
fairness.
I really think my friend has connected the dots on several of these
issues--the gun issue, the Patients' of Bill of Rights, prescription
drugs, minimum wage. What do these have in common? They are all issues
that matter to America's families, the way we live, and the kind of
life we have. They are crucial issues. No matter what happens in the
Senate when the majority leader brings legislation forward--or
doesn't--whether we do nothing or we do something, we are going to come
home with these issues and talk about them, and we are going to
organize around these issues. Otherwise, I don't think we deserve to be
here if we are silent in the face of inaction.
I thank my friend again for taking this time and for engaging in this
colloquy.
(Mr. ENZI assumed the chair.)
Mr. DURBIN. We have not only addressed the major legislative issues
bottled up and stalled in this Republican Congress--gun safety
legislation, Patients' Bill of Rights, prescription drug benefits,
increasing the minimum wage. We should listen as well to the rhetoric
coming from the Republican candidate for President, George W. Bush, who
is suggesting a massive tax cut of over $2 trillion over 9 years. He is
also now suggesting a change in Social Security that will cost over
$800 billion over 9 years--$2.8 trillion that he has suggested we spend
over the next 9 years, when we are told by experts in Washington that
the surplus we have to deal with is about $800 billion. What the
Presidential candidate on the Republican side is suggesting is that he
wants to return to the era of deficit spending, where we will, over 9
years, go $2 trillion more in debt.
We can all recall that when President Reagan was elected in 1980, we
started on this course of action which led to increasing our national
debt to over $6 trillion. We had more debt accumulated during the
Reagan-George Herbert Walker Bush years than we had in the entire
previous history of the United States. Now to carry on this fine
tradition, Gov. George W. Bush is suggesting we go back to deficit
spending, $2 trillion more in debt, to give tax breaks to wealthy
people, to change Social Security in a risky way.
I think that is another fundamental issue. If we are going to deal
with America's economy to keep it moving forward, if we are going to
bring about the changes we need to make America a better place to live,
we certainly don't need to return to deficit spending. I think that is
a critical issue that affects everything we do on Capitol Hill.
Mrs. BOXER. Again, my friend raises a very crucial issue. I have the
paperwork here, and my friend is right on target. George W. Bush's tax
cut proposal is $1.7 trillion from 2002 to 2010, and going to his
privatized plan for Social Security will cost $1 trillion. My friend
said $800 billion; it is $1 trillion. The projected on-budget surplus,
if the economy continues to do well--and you never can count on that,
but we certainly hope so--is $877 billion, which leaves a $2.7 trillion
deficit. We are going to go back into the bad days.
So not only are George W. Bush and the Republican Party not wanting
to act and make life better by moving forward on the issues about which
we talked--the gun issue, prescription drugs, the Patients' Bill of
Rights, and the minimum wage. So not only won't they change for the
good, they want to go back, and we are going to be facing these
horrific deficits, a national debt that will start to soar again, the
markets will react with high interest rates, and we will be back into
the deepest trouble. We will be bailing ourselves out.
I have to say again that by looking at this entire choice we have in
this election, it is very interesting. As I listen to my friend, I
realize what we face. We face a situation where either we are going to
go forward on certain issues but keep fiscal responsibility, or not
move on crucial issues that are really life-and-death issues and go
back to the days of horrible economic times.
We all remember when President Bush went to Japan and threw up his
hands and said: What are we going to do? We are in deep trouble. Help
us.
That was not a high point in American life. Now, with the Clinton-
Gore team, we are leading the world, but we will only continue if we
don't go back to those bad old days of deficits.
I thank my friend.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator's time has expired. The next hour
is under the control of the Senator from Wyoming.
The Senator from Wyoming is recognized.
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