[Congressional Record Volume 144, Number 82 (Monday, June 22, 1998)]
[Senate]
[Pages S6757-S6759]
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SECRET HOLDS ON NOMINATIONS AND LEGISLATION
Mr. WYDEN. Madam President, only 52 legislative days remain in this
session. Dozens of nominations are pending, and more than 400 items are
on the calendar. Being an election year, this
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is a recipe for the explosion of a little-known procedure, but one that
is extraordinarily important as the Senate moves to the end of the
session. I speak today about the issue of secret holds on nominations
and legislation before this body.
Nowhere in the Constitution nor in our Federal statutes is there any
mention of the right of a U.S. Senator to put a secret hold on a bill
or a nomination. Nevertheless, this power is one of the two or three
most significant powers that a Member of the U.S. Senate can have. In
effect, this power allows any Member of the U.S. Senate, in secret, to
block a nomination or a piece of legislation from even being considered
on the floor of this body.
I have talked to citizens at home about this. They are stunned that
any Member of the U.S. Senate would have the power to be able to block
something. But what really galls them is the right to do it in secret
without there being any accountability whatsoever.
I am of the view that it is appropriate that Members of the U.S.
Senate, in efforts to represent our constituents, have the power to
make decisions that are going to affect dramatically the lives of
millions of Americans. But I think that extraordinary power ought to be
accompanied by real responsibility. Certainly if one Member of the U.S.
Senate is going to block this body from even considering a bill or a
nomination, it should be accompanied by public disclosure.
Our friend, Senator Grassley, has come on to the floor. The Presiding
Officer and our colleagues know that for more than a year he and I have
been trying to bring some sunshine to the U.S. Senate. We have been
trying to change the rules so that if a Member does singlehandedly seek
to block a nomination or a bill from coming to this floor, they would
be required, as part of the Standing Order of the Senate, to stipulate
in the Congressional Record that they were, in fact, that individual.
We are moving to that part of the legislative session where the
secret hold is most abused. Very shortly, in this body we will begin a
game that I call legislative hide and seek. We will have holds on
nominations and bills. Outside this Capitol Building there will be
lobbyists trying to figure out who has put a secret hold on a
particular bill or nomination. And this entire process contributes to
the cynicism and skepticism that so many Americans have about our
government today.
Madam President and colleagues, it came to light in the fall of
1997--which, as we all know, wasn't an election year--that there were
42 holds in play at one time. As I mentioned, this game of legislative
hide and seek was underway outside these Chambers.
At that time, Senator Grassley and I were able to win on a voice vote
an amendment to change the Senate's Standing Orders to require public
disclosure of a hold. But then, in what was really the ultimate irony,
our effort to end secret holds was secretly killed in a conference
committee and vanished when the D.C. appropriations bill was brought
back before the Senate.
I hope now with just over 50 legislative days remaining, that the
Senate would on a bipartisan basis change this particular longstanding
tradition--a tradition noted nowhere in the Constitution, our Federal
statutes or Senate rules--and bring some openness and some sunshine to
this body.
The hold started out as simply an effort to try to accommodate our
colleagues. If a Member of the U.S. Senate had a spouse who was ill or
a relative who faced a particular problem, they could, on a Monday,
say, ``I can't be there on Tuesday, would it be possible to hold things
over for a couple of days so I could address a matter that was
important to my constituents?''
That is not what Senator Grassley and I are talking about. We are not
talking about the right of a Senator to be present to discuss an issue
important to them and to their constituents. We are talking about
making sure that when a Member of the U.S. Senate digs in and digs in
to block a particular nomination or a bill from either coming to the
floor or ever being considered at all, that at that point they would be
required to disclose publicly that they are the individual who is
blocking consideration by the Senate.
Under our amendment no Member of the U.S. Senate would lose their
power to place a hold on a bill. A Senator's power would be absolutely
unchanged with respect to the right to place a hold on legislation. All
that Senator Grassley and I are saying is when you put on that hold, be
straight with the American people. Let the Senate and let the American
people know that you are the person who feels strongly about a
particular issue. Make sure that it is possible, then, for us to find
out where in the discussion of a particular nomination or piece of
legislation the Senate is considering there is a problem. This has not
been the case, and this situation is getting increasingly serious.
In the two years since I have been here I have seen more and more
abuse of this process. We are seeing in a number of instances that even
the Senators themselves don't know that a hold is being placed in their
name. I have had Senators come to me and say, ``I learned that one of
my staff''--or someone else's staff--``put a hold on a bill,'' and the
Senator I was working with didn't even know that a hold had been placed
on the legislation.
This ought to be an easy reform for the U.S. Senate. It simply would
require openness, public disclosure, and an opportunity for every
Member of the Senate and for the American people to know who, in fact,
feels sufficiently strongly about that bill, that they are the one
keeping this body from considering it.
A number of public interest organizations and opinion leaders have
come out in favor of the effort being pursued by myself and Senator
Grassley. I will close my opening remarks and then yield my time to
Senator Grassley, with just a quick statement from a Washington Post
editorial that came out in favor of this effort.
The Washington Post said:
It's time members of the Senate stand up and answer to each
other and the public for such actions. What are they scared
of?
That, Madam President, is what this issue is all about. It doesn't
pass the smell test to keep this information from the American people.
There is not a town meeting in our country where it is possible for a
Member of the U.S. Senate to say, ``I'm involved in making decisions
that affect millions of people and billions of dollars, but you know,
I'm not going to tell you anything about it. I'm not going to let you
in on this particular procedure.''
Again, this is a procedure that has evolved over the years, that is
written down nowhere, not in the rules, not in the statutes, and not
even in the Constitution.
Madam President, it is time to ensure that when Senators exercise the
extraordinary powers that we are accorded in the Constitution and the
laws of our land, that those powers be met with responsibility, powers
that make it clear that when there is legislation affecting billions of
dollars and countless Americans that we are going to let the public in
on the way the Senate does its business.
Senator Grassley and I filed our amendment to the Department of
Defense authorization bill. It is our intention to bring this
bipartisan amendment before the Senate at the earliest opportunity. We
want to make it very clear that between now and the fall, when we are
likely to have 60, 70, 80 secret holds and this game of hide and seek
is being played all over the Capitol, Senator Grassley and I want to
have the Senate rules changed so that the public will know at the end
of a session how and when these important decisions are being made.
Before I conclude, let me just say to my colleague from Iowa, who has
joined us on the floor to speak after me this afternoon, I have enjoyed
working with him on many issues. I serve on the Senate Aging Committee,
which he so ably Chairs, but I am particularly appreciative of the
chance to work with him on this issue. We have had a bipartisan team
pursuing this matter for many, many months. We want it understood that
there is absolutely nothing partisan, nothing Democrat, nothing
Republican, about our desire to bring real openness and accountability
to the U.S. Senate. This isn't about partisan politics. This is about
good government. This is about making sure that in the last days of a
Senate session we are no longer playing legislative hide and seek, but
are making decisions in a way that we are accountable to the public,
and that the American people can follow. We want to contribute to
confidence in the way the
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Senate does its business, rather than to what we face today, which is
additional skepticism and cynicism by virtue of the fact that the
Senate does so much business at the end of a session in secret.
I thank my colleague from Iowa, and I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Iowa.
Mr. GRASSLEY. Parliamentary inquiry. Is there any time limits? I know
we vote at 5:00.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senate is in morning business until 5:10,
at which time a vote will occur.
Mr. GRASSLEY. Madam President, before I start to debate this issue, I
should say thank you to my colleague from Oregon for his leadership in
this area. He has worked very hard on it. I have been very happy to be
supportive of him--and I am fully supportive of him. I have told him
how secret holds have affected me and now both he and I practice what
we preach--that is, we declare our intentions to put a hold on a piece
of legislation if we decide to take that action. Obviously, being open
about placing a hold has worked for us and it is a sound practice.
I want to state the proposition that eventually what is right is
going to win out in the Senate. I know that constituents are skeptical
about right winning out in this body, and I suppose sometimes it takes
a long time for right to win out; but I believe if you feel you are in
the right, and that you are pursuing the right course of action and,
particularly, as in this case, when your opponents don't have a lot to
say about what you are trying to do, I think you can be confident that
you are pretty much on the right course. There wasn't much opposition
to this expressed on the floor of the Senate last year. My guess is
that there won't be a lot expressed this year either, and eventually we
will win. I think we will win this year. But if we don't, we are going
to win sometime on this proposition because it is so right and because
we are not going to give up.
I know persistence pays because it took me about 6 years, ending in
1995, to get Congress covered by a lot of legislation that it exempted
itself from. A lot of laws were applicable to the rest of the country
and were not applicable to those of us on Capitol Hill. That was wrong.
It was recognized as being wrong. So I presented the motions to
accomplish the goal of getting Congress to obey the laws everyone else
had to follow. They were hardly ever argued against on the floor of
this assembly. But in the ``dark dungeons'' where conference committees
are held, somehow those provisions were taken out--until after about 6
years of discussing the issue of congressional exemptions, and the
public becoming more aware of this shameful situation, finally there
was enough embarrassment brought to Congress that we could not keep
that exemption from those laws any longer. So we passed the
Congressional Accountability Act early in 1995. It was the first bill
signed that year by the President of the United States. We have ended
those exemptions that were so wrong.
I still remember that, early on in that period of time, how my
colleagues would just say privately to me, ``What a terrible
catastrophe it is going to be for the Congress to have to live under
these laws that apply to the rest of the Nation''--laws like civil
rights laws, worker safety laws, et cetera. We have had to live under
those laws for 3 years now, and it hasn't harmed us at all. It has been
good for the country to have those of us that make laws have to
actually understand the bureaucratic morass and red tape you have to go
through to meet those laws, and some of the conditions on employment,
some of the working conditions in the office, some of the wage and hour
issues that private employers have to go through. We understand those
now. We have to be sympathetic to their arguments more because we have
to live under those laws.
Well, that is one example of right ultimately winning. That brings me
to what is right about this. There are plenty of reasons for holds, and
there is nothing really wrong with holds. There is nothing that our
legislation says is wrong with holds. But the reasons can be purely
political. Sometimes holds are put on for one colleague to use as
leverage with another colleague, to move something that maybe another
individual is blocking. There can be truly flawed legislation, and
maybe there such holds legitimately allow more time to work things out.
However, other holds can be purely a stalling tactic. A hold could be
all could be for all of those reasons and more. It doesn't matter what
the reason is. We don't find fault with those reasons. We only say that
the people that are exercising the hold, for whatever reason, ought to
say so, and why.
It is going to cause the Senate, I think, with our amendment, to be
run more openly and efficiently. It is going to lift one of the veils
of secrecy. It is not going to lift all of the veils of secrecy in a
parliamentary body. I don't know that I would call that all of them be
lifted. I am not sure I could even enumerate all of the layers of
secrecy that might go on. But this is one form of secrecy that is not
legitimate.
As I said, we do not ban holds or the use of them, for whatever
reason they might be made. We just stipulate that they must be made
public so that we know who is putting the hold on. We would like to
know why the hold is being put on, but that is not even a requirement
in our legislation. Just tell who you are. You don't even have to say
why. It is pretty simple. It is pretty reasonable.
A lot of my colleagues, I think, fear retribution. If they are
putting a hold on for a legitimate reason, why should they have to fear
that? Maybe the greater good of the body, the greater good of the
country would be their motivation. They might think they would
experience some sort of retribution and that is why they may not want
their hold to be known. I say that, after 2 or 3 years of practicing
open holds myself, there is no fear of a hold being known. I can tell
you this: I probably was somewhat nervous the first time I announced
that I was going to make public in the Congressional Record why I was
putting a hold on. I thought that maybe I was opening myself up to a
lot of retribution, a lot of trouble that I don't need. I probably
don't use holds very often. You could probably count the number of
times on one hand that I would use a hold in the course of a Congress.
Regardless, the times that I have done it, I can tell you that there is
no pain. No harm came to me. There is no retribution that came to me as
a result of it from any of my colleagues. And 98 others beside Senator
Wyden and myself could do that, and they don't.
I can tell you about the problems I have had finding out who has a
hold, why they have a hold; and then we have had these rotating holds
where somebody has found out and some friend will put a hold on in his
place. You run those things down. It is not a very productive way to be
a Senator. If I can go to the Congressional Record and find out who
doesn't like my proposition, who doesn't like this nominee, et cetera,
I can go to that individual and just talk up front about the reason,
and I think it will even speed up the work of the Senate. If each
Senator can be a little more efficient, then the Senate is going to be
a little more efficient body as a whole.
So this is one of those things that, from every angle--every reason
for making a hold open is a good reason. Look at all of the prospective
opposition to it and the reasons for the opposition. First of all,
people don't very freely express opposition to it. But when they do
express an argument against making holds open, it is not a very good
reason to be against it. When you have these public policy arguments
for making holds open that are good, good, good, why should we waste
any time? They just ought to be adopted; they ought to be a part of the
practice and make the public's business more public. That is what the
Wyden-Grassley amendment is all about. I hope my colleagues will
support us in this effort.
I yield the floor.
Mr. INOUYE addressed the Chair.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Hawaii is recognized.
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