[Congressional Record Volume 144, Number 69 (Tuesday, June 2, 1998)]
[Senate]
[Pages S5529-S5541]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]
NATIONAL TOBACCO POLICY AND YOUTH SMOKING REDUCTION ACT
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Under the previous order, the Senate will now
resume consideration of S. 1415, which the clerk will report.
The assistant legislative clerk read as follows:
A bill (S. 1415) to reform and restructure the processes by
which tobacco products are manufactured, marketed, and
distributed, to prevent the use of tobacco products by
minors, to redress the adverse health effects of tobacco use,
and for other purposes.
The Senate resumed consideration of the bill.
Pending:
Gregg/Leahy amendment No. 2433 (to amendment No. 2420), to
modify the provisions relating to civil liability for tobacco
manufacturers.
Gregg/Leahy amendment No. 2434 (to amendment No. 2433), in
the nature of a substitute.
Gramm motion to recommit the bill to the Committee on
Finance with instructions to report back forthwith, with
Amendment No. 2436, to modify the provisions relating to
civil liability for tobacco manufacturers, and to eliminate
the marriage penalty reflected in the standard deduction and
to ensure the earned income credit takes into account the
elimination of such penalty.
Daschle (for Durbin) amendment No. 2437 (to amendment No.
2436), relating to reductions in underage tobacco usage.
Daschle (for Durbin) amendment No. 2438 (to amendment No.
2437), of a perfecting nature.
Mr. McCAIN addressed the Chair.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Arizona.
Mr. McCAIN. Mr. President, lately we have heard a lot of hyperbole
from the opponents of tobacco legislation, particularly regarding the
notion that the bill should be killed because it concocts new
bureaucracies. Last week, one Senator gave the number of 17 new
bureaucracies and another said 30 new bureaucracies; and the Senator
from Missouri used a very busy chart diagraming previous tobacco
legislation which, unfortunately, did not represent the measure we are
debating. The industry is certainly determined that this is an
effective tool to divert the issue in trying to kill the bill.
Interestingly, Mr. Goldstone, the CEO of RJR, has been passing out
the outdated diagram that was manufactured by one of our colleagues, a
development I find to be quite curious and rather discouraging. It is
the type of thing that reinforces the public's perception about the
relationship between the Congress and the tobacco industry. In fact,
Mr. President, Mr. Goldstone was out in my home State of Arizona to
speak to a local civic club and passed out this same chart to many of
my constituents, of course, whom I do not expect to know that that
chart was outdated when it was printed. But it is an interesting
symbiotic relationship that is developing between the opponents of the
bill and the tobacco industry.
So, Mr. President, we developed a little chart here of our own. It
does not take enormous skills--you do not have to be a genius nor be
employed at the space agency to figure out a chart. But I thought it
would be enlightening to my colleagues to look at a chart that has to
do with what exactly happens when we do not pass tobacco legislation--I
emphasize ``when we do not.''
Of course, we begin with tobacco campaign contributions, which have
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been $30 million since 1987 to the U.S. Congress. Now, if we stopped at
tobacco legislation there, a result of inaction would be--the number of
kids who are smoking is up 32.4 percent since 1991. The average young
person smoker begins at age 13, and 90 percent of our adult smokers in
America begin before the age of 18. That might help my colleagues
understand better why we are trying to attack the problem of youth
smoking.
Adult smoking, that costs a lot of money to us who do not smoke. In
fact, it is $50 billion a year in increased taxes on nonsmokers as well
as smokers to pay for Medicare and Medicaid bills that are incurred as
a direct result of treating the illnesses associated with smoking.
Again, I think it is important to remember, 90 percent of the adults
who smoke in America began before the age of 18. That is why the
critical focus is on kids smoking. Ten million smoking-related deaths
have occurred since the first Surgeon General report was issued in
1964--10 million.
Mr. President, I have a chart around here someplace, which I will
show later on, which shows the relationship between tobacco-related
illness and all other causes of death in America. Smoking-related
deaths are by far--by far--the highest. So when my colleagues say,
``Then you are going to move on to alcohol and hamburgers, and then you
are going to move on to whatever,'' they may; I cannot predict the
future; but I can argue that if you just looked at the number of
smoking-related deaths in America, you would see that they dwarf all
other causes themselves.
And 430,730 deaths, or 20 percent of all deaths in America--430,700
deaths, 20 percent of all deaths in America, are, guess what, smoking-
related deaths. Premature deaths of smokers who are under age 18, in
1995, were 5 million. The combined potential life lost is 64 million
years. And one-third--one-third--of all deaths by cancer in America are
attributed to tobacco.
Mr. President, these are not my figures; these are the Surgeon
General's, the Centers for Disease Control's, and other Government and
nongovernmental organizations.
And there are 136,000 lung cancer deaths every year. There are
136,000 lung cancer deaths every year. Mr. President, that should be
disturbing enough. But what is more disturbing is that youth smoking is
on the rise in America--not on the decline, it is on the rise. If
136,000 people are dying of lung cancer every year and there are
430,700 deaths every year, those deaths eventually are going to go up.
And your taxes are going to go up. The American people's taxes are
going to go up, because we have to pay to treat the tobacco-related
illnesses.
So when I keep hearing this malarkey about a big tax bill, my
friends, we are paying a big tax bill as we speak, a huge tax bill,
that is going to get a lot bigger if we do not attack this problem.
So I would ask my colleagues who keep buying and parroting the
tobacco advertisements--according to the New York Times, now $60
million has been spent--please keep in mind the big tax bill that is
paid every day of every year in this country to treat tobacco-related
illnesses, not to mention the big human tax that results from premature
death. Every day, today--today--3,000 kids will start to smoke, and
1,000 of them will die early. One thousand of them will die from lung
cancer--emphysema, pneumonia, influenza, and other terrible causes of
death.
There are 200,000 heart disease deaths per year. One-fifth of all the
deaths attributed to heart disease are directly attributed to tobacco.
There are 90,000 coronary heart disease deaths a year.
There are 3,000 lung cancer deaths a year due to secondhand smoke.
There are 84,000 lung disease deaths every year, from pneumonia,
influenza, bronchitis and emphysema, and 90 percent of all emphysema
cases in America--90 percent--are attributed to smoking--90 percent.
Mr. President, one of the most heartwrenching things I have ever seen
in my life is to go down to the VA in Phoenix, AZ, and see veterans
outside, because they are no longer allowed to smoke inside, sitting
outside with oxygen tanks and taking the mask away and smoking a
cigarette. Mr. President, if there was ever a living, breathing example
of the addictive aspects of nicotine, it is that terrible sight.
And 163,100 fires were caused by smoking in 1992. That is the latest
information we have on that. And 2,000 deaths were caused by smoking-
related fires.
Mr. President, that is the result of inaction on the issue of
tobacco. That is the result. I will not go through them again, but I
think it should be pretty compelling. So 430,700 deaths, or 20 percent
of all deaths for all other causes, are directly related to smoking and
tobacco.
The American taxpayer, Mr. President, through the costs of Medicare
and Medicaid--the tobacco-related costs are $130 billion, and the
health care costs alone are $50 billion; that is Medicaid, Medicare,
private health insurance and small business insurance.
Loss of economic productivity is $80 billion. Smokers cause $501
billion in excess health care costs in America.
Maternal smoking costs in medical expenditures are $661 million, and
6,200 children die every year as a result of parents smoking. Forty
percent to 60 percent of children's asthma, bronchitis, and wheezing is
due to secondhand smoke--an extra 160,000 cases of asthma and an extra
79,000 cases of bronchitis, and an extra 172,000 cases of wheezing.
Prenatal smokers raise health care costs by $175 extra per child
under the age of 2, and smoking-related fires cost $500 million.
Complicated births, $1 billion per year. Pregnant women smokers are 50
percent more likely to have a mentally handicapped child. Prenatal
smokers cause 48,000 low birth weights per year. Between 150,000 and
300,000 children under 1\1/2\ years must be hospitalized for secondhand
smoke: bronchitis, pneumonia, ear infection, and asthma. Developmental
difficulties for complicated deliveries in low-weight babies costs $4
billion a year for children of women who smoke.
There are two enormous costs associated with smoking and tobacco use
in America. Both of them are pretty compelling. One, obviously, is the
huge number of deaths, 20 percent of all the deaths in America that are
attributed to it. And the problem is not getting better; it is bound to
be getting worse. Of course, these enormous costs go to the taxpayers,
as well.
When we are arguing this debate, and sometimes it gets a little
emotional, I think we ought to keep in mind what we are talking about
here. It is a compelling and very emotional situation when so many
young Americans are afflicted with this addiction.
In Arizona, State medical costs, total medical costs from tobacco are
$559 million; Pennsylvania, $1.982 billion. Those are the total medical
costs, as a result of tobacco, to the States.
Mr. President, according to the New York Times on May 22:
More than a third of high school students who try
cigarettes develop a daily smoking habit before they
graduate, the Government said today.
In a survey of more than 16,000 students nationwide, nearly
36 percent who had ever smoked said their smoking had
escalated to at least a cigarette a day, the Centers for
Disease Control and Prevention said.
Nearly 73 percent of the students with a daily habit said
they had tried to quit. Of those who tried to quit, 13.5
percent were successful, the agency said.
Seventy percent of students surveyed said they had tried
cigarettes at least once. The percentage is probably higher
among teen-agers over all because the survey did not include
dropouts [Mr. Eriksen said]. Previous studies had estimated
that 33 percent to 50 percent of people who experiment with
cigarettes become regular smokers.
I just went through the costs per State of tobacco costs. Probably
far more compelling than that is the number of kids currently under 18
who will die prematurely from a tobacco-related disease. In my home
State of Arizona, 98,516 children will die prematurely--98,516. That is
a lot of young people. I think that, obviously, we have an obligation
to do something about it.
Title I of the bill provides the Food and Drug Administration with
authority over tobacco, tobacco products, and nicotine. The FDA is not
a new bureaucracy. It is a fairly old agency with an important mission
that most Americans fully support--to protect public health and risk to
our food supply, drugs, and other substances ingested into the human
body, including cigarettes. The FDA already serves as authority over
cigarettes under their current power, something in large part
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upheld in the courts. This was not made up by the bill's authors. In
fact, the industry agreed to broad FDA authority over tobacco products
last June. So those who argue that this bill grants large, huge new
powers to the FDA, please remember, as in many other aspects of this
bill, it was modeled after the June 20 agreement last year between the
tobacco industry and the 40 attorneys general themselves. It provided
broad new authority over tobacco products, as does this bill.
What nefarious activities will the FDA undertake with authority over
tobacco--which I reemphasize the industry agreed the FDA should
exercise? First, the FDA will oversee ingredients to ensure that
cigarettes are not adulterated with ``putrid or poisonous substances.''
Most Americans, including smokers, don't like the idea that tobacco
companies have put additives such as ammonia into cigarettes to
increase addictiveness. Two, the FDA will oversee branding to ensure
health and other claims are true, establish youth access rules, and
oversee marketing to stop appeals to children, accept performance
standards to better protect health without creating demand for
contraband, and medically assist the developing and marketing of safer
tobacco products.
The courts have already upheld that the FDA has most of these
authorities under current law. This bill wisely places those
authorities into a separate body of law so that nontobacco foods, drugs
and devices are not affected by rules that should be targeted solely to
cigarettes and the regulation of nicotine. I want to emphasize, those
who worry about the expansion of FDA authority into other products,
this is a separate chapter. This is a separate body of law.
I find it curious that those who believe FDA should have no such
authority seek greater protection for the tobacco industry than the
industry itself which agreed to broad overall FDA oversight last June.
So, we are not talking about any new bureaucracies here.
Title II sets underage tobacco use reduction targets. Again, not
something concocted by the bill's authors. The targets are the same as
what the industry agreed to last year, entailing no new bureaucracies.
Part (b) of title II establishes a State retailing licensing program
with respect to tobacco products. Retail licensing was requested by the
40 States attorneys general and agreed to by the industry last June. It
is designed to hold sellers accountable and to better enforce the
prohibition in every single State against selling tobacco products to
minors.
According to the Centers for Disease Control, 256 million packs of
cigarettes are illegally sold each year to underage youth--the same
youth that the industry so vigorously targeted in its marketing.
Representatives of the National Association of Convenience Stores have
assured me they support licensing. They don't want bad actors selling
to kids, and licensure, in the same manner we do with alcohol, is a
means of achieving that goal.
This brings me to another aspect of the attack on this bill, and that
is the issue of black market and contraband. Why is it we are able to
pretty well prevent, if not totally eradicate, black market or
contraband as far as alcohol is concerned? One of the major reasons is
because we license the sale of alcohol. So those who are concerned
about the increase in contraband, the so-called black market, might
support rather than oppose this bill because of the licensing
provisions associated with it.
Earlier I submitted for the Record a letter from the Convenience
Store Association expressing no opposition to this legislation. I also
submitted a letter from the National Governors' Association expressing
appreciation that the licensing program is flexible. It respects States
rights and is paid for by the tobacco bill. We have heard much scorn
and outrage expressed about the licensing provision, even though it is
basically the same mechanism in place for alcohol sales. Do Senators
who find tobacco licensing to be such an abomination believe we should
have one standard for alcohol and another for tobacco when tobacco
kills far more people every year and over 90 percent of smokers begin
long before they are of legal age? Does it matter that over a quarter
of a billion packs of cigarettes are sold to minors every year?
Part (c) of title II provides for the distribution of tobacco money
for smoke cessation and prevention activities by the Secretary of
Health and Human Services. HHS already has an office of smoking and
health--not a new bureaucracy. Over 90 percent of these moneys are
block granted to the States and will use existing public and private
nonprofit organizations--not new bureaucracies.
Do the opponents of this bill and those opposed collectively to
settling the State suits truly believe we should not provide smoking
prevention and cessation activities?
Again, these are the essential elements of stopping 3,000 kids a day
from taking up a habit that will kill a third of them --activities that
the industry agreed to and that were contemplated in the June 20
agreement.
Mr. President, I want to emphasize again that every public health
group in America and every living Surgeon General back to 1973--every
expert in the Centers for Disease Control and the National Institutes
of Health--every single one of them says that if you want to stop kids
from smoking or reduce the number of children who smoke in America, you
have to have a comprehensive approach. Part 1: Raise the price of a
pack of cigarettes which, by the way, the tobacco industry agreed to
last June 20--not as much as contemplated in this bill, but they agreed
to it. The second is active cessation programs. You can't do that
without a comprehensive bill.
Mr. President, there is an organization of people called the ENACT
Coalition. They are a major public health organization; they formed a
coalition called ENACT to promote effective national action to control
tobacco. This growing coalition has pledged to work with Congress and
the administration, the public health community, and the American
people to pass comprehensive, sustainable, effective well-funded
national tobacco legislation.
Mr. President, let me tell you who is in this coalition. They are the
Allergy and Asthma Network; American Academy of Child and Adolescent
Psychiatry; American Academy of Family Physicians; American Academy of
Pediatrics; American Association of Respiratory Care; American
Association of Physicians of Indian Origin; American Cancer Society;
American College of Cardiology; American College of Chest Physicians;
American College of Occupational and Environmental Medicine; American
College of Physicians; American College of Preventive Medicine;
American Dental Association; American Heart Association; American
Medical Association; American Psychiatric Association; American
Psychological Association; American School Health Association; American
Society of Anesthesiologists; American Society of Clinical Oncology;
American Society of Internal Medicine; Association of American Medical
Colleges; Association of Black Cardiologists; Association of Maternal
and Child Health Programs; Association of Schools of Public Health;
Association of State and Territorial Health Officials; Association of
Teachers of Preventive Medicine; Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids;
Children's Defense Fund; College on Problems of Drug Dependence;
Community Antidrug Coalitions of America; Council of State and
Territorial Epidemiologists; Family Voices; Federation of Behavioral,
Psychological and Cognitive Sciences; HMO group; Inter-religious
Coalition on Smoking and Health; Latino Council on Alcohol and Tobacco;
National Association of Children's Hospitals; National Association of
County and City Health Officials; National Association of Local Boards
of Health; National Hispanic Medical Association; National Mental
Health Association; Oncology Nursing Society; Partnership for
Prevention; Society of Public Health Education; Society for Research on
Nicotine and Tobacco; Society of Behavioral Medicine, and the Summit
Health Coalition.
Mr. President, I would have to submit that this is a fairly reputable
and respectable group of experts on the issue of health care in
America. This is a very impressive coalition. I have not seen one quite
like it. And for us to ignore their plea for a comprehensive
settlement, I think, would be a great disservice not only to them, but
to the people that they represent.
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Surgeon General Koop and Dr. Kessler--and I have a letter from every
living Surgeon General, Republican, Democrat, liberal conservative--are
saying that we have to enact this bill.
Mr. President, this part of the bill also provides health research
money to the National Institutes of Health, the Centers for Disease
Control, and the National Science Foundation, all of which are well-
established, respected and world-renowned health research
institutions--not new bureaucracies.
We are at a critical stage in history, on the brink of breakthrough
treatments and cures and treatments for scourges such as breast and
lung cancer, heart disease, and countless other devastating human
illnesses. I am sorry that some of my colleagues prefer to ignore the
possibilities and opt instead for loaded buzzword attacks to change the
subject.
Finally, this title of the bill calls for a comprehensive tobacco
counteradvertising campaign, as agreed to by the attorneys general,
public health advocates, and the industry last year, and is among the
most important weapons in stopping kids from smoking. Every tobacco
bill that has been introduced, including alternative measures being
prepared by opponents of the pending legislation contemplates a large
investment in counteradvertising.
I tell my colleagues that the advertising section does include what
some have characterized as a ``new bureaucracy.'' The ``bureaucracy''
is known as the Tobacco-Free Education Board, a part-time, bipartisan,
unsalaried advisory committee designed to help formulate and execute a
nationwide antismoking advertising campaign.
So if you want to call that a new bureaucracy, guilty as charged.
The alternative to this advisory panel would be to give millions of
dollars to a political appointee to determine, unfettered, how such
public appeal campaigns should be designed and executed--powers that
neither Republicans or Democrats are eager to hand over to the other.
Even opponents of the bill who have expressed outrage about
``bureaucracies'' and might otherwise dedicate themselves to ridding
the Nation of the terrible burden imposed by a part-time advisory panel
probably would not prefer the alternative.
Title III of the bill provides for an array of new tobacco warnings
and calls for the public disclosure of cigarette ingredients--something
most cigarette smokers deserve and would like to know. Both items were
agreed to by the industry and, again, require no new bureaucracies.
Title IV creates a single trust fund to receive and disburse revenues
generated by the bill. The fund would be administered by the Secretary
of the Treasury--a position that has been in existence since the Nation
was founded, and it does not constitute a new bureaucracy. The bulk of
the money will go to States to reimburse their taxpayers for Medicaid
losses. Half of the State money, which represents the Federal share of
Medicaid, may be used on a menu of seven options, from drug-free school
initiatives to children's health care, each of which is an existing
program--not a new bureaucracy.
Title V contains new standards for exposure to secondary smoke. The
40 States attorneys general who were part of the June 20 agreement
called for a mandatory national environmental smoke standard to be
enforced federally and by the States. This bill allows the State to opt
out of the Federal program if it adopts and enforces its own. The
establishment and enforcement of standards can be done through existing
agencies--not new bureaucracies.
Title VI of the bill deals with Indian tribes and ensures that
reservations don't become a safe haven for youth access to tobacco.
Price increasing will affect reservations as they do all other areas of
the Nation. This section allows tribes to receive smoking prevention
and cessation grants as States--in the same vein that we administer all
other Federal grant programs. None of this entails new bureaucracies,
but simply fulfills our obligation to tribes and Native Americans to
whom the Federal Government has a trust responsibility.
Title VII, as amended, contains various civil liability provisions,
including an initiative that assists individual plaintiffs in seeking
and obtaining just commendation--no new bureaucracies.
Title VIII calls on the industry to submit an annual report on how
the companies are meeting their obligations under this act in the State
settlement decrees, and calls on existing Federal authorities,
including the Surgeon General, to evaluate that progress. This section
also protects industry whistleblowers from threats and workplace
retaliation--not any new bureaucracies.
Title IX calls on the industry to make available to the public
documents they have been illegally hiding to avoid disclosure of their
misdeeds and data on the health risks of tobacco products. A panel of
sitting judges will make determinations on the propriety of attorney-
client privilege assertions. Calling on sitting judges to perform a
judicial task is not--I repeat, not--a new bureaucracy.
Title X contains the farm provisions which include various grant
programs and farm community assistance initiatives. Some feel strongly
opposed, but let us not lose sight of the fact that the debate between
the LEAF Act and the Lugar alternative is not about whether we will
have these assistance programs. It is a debate over how much we will
spend on them and whether buyouts should be concluded at a time
certain.
Title XI contains provisions related to international marketing,
smuggling, and vending machines. In the international arena, the bill
calls for multilateral and bilateral agreements regarding tobacco
marketing and advertising to kids. These agreements can be consummated
through existing authorities--not new bureaucracies.
To address concerns raised by many of our colleagues that our Nation
should not simply export the problem of kids smoking to children
overseas, this section does authorize an international tobacco control
awareness program which is subject to appropriations and, if funded,
can operate through existing institutions.
Antismuggling initiatives are also contained in this section,
including a call for tobacco package markers to distinguish licensed
products from contraband, requiring licensure of manufacturers and
wholesalers, and recordkeeping for large transactions. Will this entail
additional law enforcement activities? I suspect so. But we have heard
a number of our colleagues express concern about black market and
contraband. These provisions will address those concerns.
Unfortunately, many have not yet grasped the reality that with or
without this legislation the cost of cigarettes will increase
dramatically. If every State settles under the same terms as Minnesota,
we might well anticipate increases of $2 per pack.
The June 20 settlement called for a per pack increase of 65 cents
and, I might point out, agreed to by the administration--65 cents. Some
of the most vociferous opponents of this bill on the basis of black
market and contraband are preparing alternatives that would impose an
excise tax of 75 cents per pack. So I trust that antismuggling
activities is not among the bureaucracy about which we are hearing.
Also included in this title is a non-Federal, private corporation to
reimburse vending machine owners for losses due to banned cigarette
machines, a major conduit of tobacco to children. Again, some of those
who have decried bureaucracy were among those most adamant about
ensuring a mechanism to compensate vending machine owners. We do this
without creating a new Federal bureaucracy.
Title XII authorizes appropriations from the trust fund to compensate
asbestos victims whose conditions were exacerbated by tobacco use
should Congress under separate legislation establish such a process for
so doing as the Supreme Court invited. No new bureaucracies.
Title XIII permits the Veterans Administration to sue tobacco
manufacturers to recoup the loss for treating veterans for smoking-
related illnesses, a power some believe the VA already has and includes
no new bureaucracies.
Finally, title XIV contains the process by which those manufacturers
that wish to formally settle their State suits must agree to, including
the up-front payment, additional advertising restrictions, et cetera,
and no new bureaucracies.
So, Mr. President, I hope we are keeping an eye on the ball about
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this is all about in addition to the bureaucracy red herring.
We have heard from opponents who object to this bill because it will
increase the price of tobacco. Let us stop kidding ourselves. If we
fail to pass this bill, the States will go back to court to win in
judgment or settlement what we might more efficiently accomplish with
national legislation and the price of cigarettes will increase. It was
recently announced by the tobacco companies as a result of the
Minnesota settlement there would be an increase in the price of a pack
of cigarettes in Minnesota.
The experts say a price increase is a critical component--not the
only component but a critical component--in the effort to stop 3,000
kids from starting to smoke. We have heard from opponents who say the
bill is about ``tax and spend.'' Providing $195 billion to States in
settlement of their cases so that State taxes can be lowered and half
of it can be used for a menu of public health-related options agreed to
by the Nation's Governors is not ``tax and spend.''
Do opponents of this bill suggest that we should not dedicate a
portion of tobacco settlement money for health research as agreed to in
the June 20 agreement? Should we not have additional resources for
smoking prevention, cessation, and counteradvertising as agreed to on
June 20? Should we not assist tobacco farmers and farm communities that
will be affected by changes in tobacco consumption, the same people who
have been urged to grow tobacco by the Federal Government for years?
And let me point out that one of the most scurrilous activities of
the tobacco industry is to go to the farmers and say that the passage
of this legislation will harm you. If they were concerned about the
farmers, why is it that in the June 20 agreement they made with 40
attorneys general there was no provision for the tobacco farmers of
America--none, not one word. It is remarkable. It is remarkable that
they should go to the tobacco farm communities and now oppose this
legislation when they had no provision to take care of the farmers in
their agreement of last June 20.
Should we not dedicate a portion of tobacco settlement money to
assist veterans suffering from smoking-related illnesses when the
Federal Government handed out cigarettes in their mess kits?
I ask my friends why we are not talking more about the real ``tax and
spend'' associated with tobacco--tax and spend that tobacco companies
impose on the American people every year in the form of $50 billion in
smoking-related health care costs including Medicare and Medicaid--
almost $455 for every household in America? Every household in America,
whether they smoke or not, pays $455 a year in taxes every single year,
and that is going up, to treat tobacco-related illnesses.
This is a tax of epic proportion paid by every taxpayer, every hard-
working American who must purchase health insurance for his or her
family and every small business struggling to provide employees with
affordable health care coverage. Do the tobacco companies worry about
taxpayers as they entice their ``youth market'' to begin a lifetime
habit that sickens and kills hundreds of thousands a year, the cost of
which others must bear? I don't think so. This bill intends to stop
some of that and stop it immediately.
We have heard from opponents who say we don't need a comprehensive
bill to stop kids from smoking. With all due respect to my colleagues
who are so wise and expert in so many areas, prudence and good sense
dictates that the Nation take the advice of the experts who maintain
unanimously that only a comprehensive bill will address what they refer
to as a ``pediatric epidemic,'' including every living Surgeon General,
Republican and Democrat, the American Medical Association, and the
organizations that I just quoted.
For those who wish to kill this bill, let us examine what we are
really talking about. We are talking about 418,000 Americans a year who
die of smoking-related diseases, the number one cause of preventable
disease and death in America by far.
I had the privilege of hearing a speech by the head of the National
Cancer Society who put it into perspective:
Among a graduating high school class of 1,000, 6 will die
from violence, 12 will die from motor vehicle accidents, 250
will die in mid life from a smoking-related disease and
another 250 will die later in life but far earlier than
necessary from smoking-related illness.
Let me just repeat that.
Among a graduating high school class of 1,000--
This from the head of the National Cancer Society--
6 will die from violence, 12 will die from motor vehicle
accidents, 250 will die in mid life from a smoking-related
disease and another 250 will die later in life but far
earlier than necessary from smoking-related illness.
So I have great respect for my colleagues who oppose the bill, and
everybody is entitled to their opinion, but they are not entitled to
the facts. It all comes down to this very simple premise: The tobacco
companies target kids to sustain their cigarette sales. Kids take the
hook; 3,000 a day start the habit, and that number is increasing.
Smoking is the single greatest killer in the United States by far. What
physicians call a ``pediatric epidemic'' won't change unless we do
something. This bill is a bipartisan opportunity to act. If it fails,
the industry will go away happy but the death march will continue. I
ask my colleagues, which it is going to be?
Finally, let me make one more additional comment. I know my friend
from Massachusetts wants to speak as well.
Mr. President, over the last week or so in the formulation of the
highway bill, some very bad things were done to the veterans of
America. I am ashamed and embarrassed. These men and women who have
served our country deserve better than what they got out of that
highway bill. In fact, some of the money earmarked to treat their
illness is now going to highways and bridges.
I know that fewer and fewer of my colleagues have had time in the
military. Those of us who are a little older have a vivid memory of
smoke breaks, of C-rations that contained cigarettes, of the end of the
chow line where cigarettes were given out for free. If there is any
group of Americans that deserves to be reimbursed for tobacco-related
illness, it is the veterans of America.
We used to call, as my friend from Massachusetts recalls, smoke
breaks. We would have smoke breaks all the time. In times of tension in
combat, cigarettes were smoked for relaxation, for relief of tension.
And the Armed Forces and our Government encouraged those men and women
in the military to smoke.
At the appropriate time, the Senator from Massachusetts and I, along
with the Senator from West Virginia, Senator Rockefeller, who has
played a very important role, will propose an amendment to put
approximately $3 billion into treatment of veterans for tobacco-related
illness. I urge my colleagues to support such a move. We intend to have
some debate on that particular amendment, and I believe it should pass
overwhelmingly.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that debate only be in order
prior to the Senate reconvening at 2:15 today.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. McCAIN. I yield the floor.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Massachusetts.
Mr. KERRY. Mr. President, I thank my colleague, the Senator from
Arizona, for his review of this legislation and for his summary of
where we find ourselves today. I also, obviously, particularly thank
him for his laying out the important agenda with respect to veterans
and what happened in the course of the last week or so. I will join
with the Senator, as others will, I know, in trying to remedy that
impact, and I am confident that the U.S. Senate will do so.
I also recall, not just the degree to which there was a kind of
dependency built into the system that both of us were in in the Navy,
but often at the end of a particular exercise, or General Quarters, the
announcement would come over the loudspeaker on the ship saying, ``The
smoking lamp is lit,'' and there was this sort of automatic rush to
smoke. It was part of the doctrine, if you will--the ethic. And an
awful lot of veterans, as a consequence of that and other things, many
other things
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through the course of life, are today suffering. They are suffering as
a consequence of that. So I think the Senator is right on target in his
desire to address that.
I also thank Senator McCain for his long efforts with respect to this
particular bill. In all of the debate on the floor of the Senate, it
has been lost that this is a bill that was reported out of committee by
a vote of 19 to 1, reflecting a considerable consensus about at least a
beginning, a starting place. I think most people would agree, as a
reflection of the vote that took place on the floor of the Senate
regarding the cap on liability, that the bill which came to the floor
moved significantly in the direction that the Senate ultimately decided
it wanted to move, by eliminating all of the restraints on class
actions and other limitations on liability, with the sole exception of
the $8 billion a year. The Senate, in its wisdom, decided to remove
that.
But the point is, this is a bill that I think has been improved, at
least in its starting point, and hopefully in the next days we can
improve it further. I listened carefully to the Senator from Oklahoma
last week, and I took the time last night to reread his criticisms of
this legislation. I think here and there there were some good points
that he made. There are ways, in amendments which I am confident the
Senator from Arizona and I and others are willing to accept, that those
issues could be remedied. So my hope is that in the next days we are
going to be able to move to do that.
But the most important thing, as we reflect on where we are going, is
to remain focused on the positive ways, the constructive ways, in which
this bill helps to save children's lives. That is the purpose of this
debate. There is not anything else that we are really trying to do
here.
There is a reason that there is a tobacco legislative effort taking
place. There is a fundamental reason that we have come to the floor of
the Senate, recognizing the work of the attorneys general around the
country who brought suit because of this. There is a reason they
brought suit. There is a reason that the suits are settling. There is a
reason the tobacco companies are coming to the table and agreeing to
settle those lawsuits. They are settling them and agreeing to do the
very things that we are seeking to codify in this legislation, but on a
national basis, so we can save time, save money, and save lives. That
is the purpose of this legislation.
One cannot ignore the fact that, in Minnesota, if you extrapolate the
cost of what the tobacco companies have agreed to in Minnesota, and
take that out on a State-by-State basis across the country, you
actually have a greater expenditure than you would have under this
legislation. So the tobacco companies have accepted, at least in the
legal process, what is being fought here in the national legislative
process. I think the truth is that ultimately we are going to come to
an agreement that recognizes that fact.
The bottom line is that the entire legislative agenda we are engaged
in here is to break the cycle of addiction that is hooking 3,000
children a day on a deadly drug. It is a very simple debate
fundamentally. Yesterday, the Senator from Texas agreed that you do
have to raise the price, and he is prepared to raise the price in order
to try to reduce the access. At least we are sort of chipping away at
the arguments here and slowly beginning to expose the truth, the facts,
as the Senator from Arizona talked about. You can make the arguments
politically on the floor, but you cannot make up the facts. The fact is
that 3,000 kids a day get addicted to this drug and, as a consequence
of that addiction, a third of those young children will die early of
throat cancer, larynx cancer, esophagus cancer, kidney disease--some
kind of disease that will be initiated and enhanced as a consequence of
the addiction to this drug.
So we should not be diverted by the side issues here. The side issues
are purposefully being used to obfuscate what the real focus of this
legislation is. There is only one reason for raising the price. The one
reason for raising the price is that every single expert, including the
tobacco companies themselves, have said if you raise the price you
reduce the access of young people to cigarettes.
If this were merely a debate about an adult habit, I guess you would
hear a lot of discussion about willpower, about adult choice, about
taking responsibility for your actions. If this were just a debate
about dangerous adult behavior, whether it is smoking or drinking or
driving too fast, we would not be talking it out on the floor of the
Senate, I suspect. Fundamentally, we wouldn't be. But it is not a
debate about adults; it is a debate about people who did not make a
rational adult decision to start smoking. It is a debate about
children. And the underlying reality is that 86 percent of smokers
begin while they are children. Mr. President, 86 percent of America's
40 to 50 million--what is the number?--45 million Americans who are
deemed addicted to cigarettes, 86 percent of them began as teenagers.
They began as children. So this is a discussion about underage smoking
and that underage smoking fundamentally leads to a very sad and tragic,
slow suicide.
Some of my colleagues have raised concerns about raising the price. I
am glad the Senator from Texas has accepted the notion. I think other
colleagues may ultimately do that, because the concept of raising the
price is not something that was initiated with some Senator who came
down and said, ``Boy, wouldn't this be a great idea? Wouldn't it be
wonderful? Here is another way to raise some revenue.'' That is not
where it came from. It came, quite simply, from all of the analyses,
studies, research, polling data, focus groups, all of the experts have
come together and said, ``If we raise the price, we can reduce the
number of children who are smoking.'' We can't eliminate it--we all
understand that--but we can significantly reduce the access of young
people to cigarettes.
I ask my colleagues not to ask Senator McCain or myself or Senator
Kennedy or Senator Conrad or any of the other advocates of this
legislation to be trusted in their word that somehow that is going to
happen. I ask them to look at the economic analyses --at the Treasury
analysis, the CBO analysis--all of the analyses that have been done.
Among the 39,000 documents--and this is perhaps one of the most
interesting bases for making this judgment--among the 39,000 documents
that were subpoenaed over the years as the tobacco cases slowly made
their way through the courts, we find a Philip Morris document that
says, quite simply, the following:
It is clear that price has a pronounced effect on the
smoking prevalence of teenagers.
That is a Philip Morris document. You will find an R. J. Reynolds
document, and it says as follows:
A key finding is that younger adult males are highly
sensitive to price. This suggests that the steep rise in
prices expected in the coming months could threaten the long-
term vitality of the industry by drying up the supply of new
younger adult smokers entering the market. It could also
undermine the long-range growth potential of brands which
rely on new younger smokers, including Marlboro and Newport.
That is one of the most extraordinary documents we can ever conceive
of reading after all of the protestations to the contrary of tobacco
executives who came before the Congress and raised their hands and
swore under oath that they don't target young people. Here is an R. J.
Reynolds document talking about how price would affect their targeting
of younger smokers, how price was going to reduce the industry's
capacity to grow by depending on its ability to reach the younger
smokers and get them addicted, particularly to Marlboro and to Newport.
One might wonder why the tobacco industry conspired, therefore, for
years to keep those internal memos under lock and key. The secret, I
think, in those documents is not that price correlates strongly with
sales, but it does. That is not the secret. The secret is that the
number of young smokers, which we know translates too often into 13 and
14-year-old smokers, is going to go down dramatically if cigarette
prices go up. Thus spoke the industry itself.
That is why we are here in the U.S. Senate arguing about whether or
not it is appropriate on a national basis to raise the price of
cigarettes, and the cigarette companies themselves have told us in two
ways: One, in these memos it is appropriate and it will work; and they
have told it to us in the
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settlements in Minnesota and in Mississippi and elsewhere where they
have agreed to those kinds of increases, and in the national settlement
where they agreed to raise the price of cigarettes, albeit not to the
$1.10, but they agreed to raise the price. They did that because they
understood that was a component of reducing teenage smoking.
So this is not an idea cooked up in the U.S. Senate. Don't come to
the floor of the U.S. Senate and start suggesting that this is some
Democrat or some large-scale tax-and-spend issue. This is an idea that
the tobacco industry itself has written about for years. This is an
idea that the health care industry itself has known for years would
work. Public health experts are united in the consensus that raising
the price of cigarettes is going to reduce youth smoking. Dr. Koop and
Dr. Kessler said:
Data indicate that children and youth are more price
sensitive than adults and that pricing has a strong and
immediate impact on reducing sales of tobacco products
overall.
The Congressional Research Service said:
Most of the evidence suggests that teenagers are about
three times more sensitive to cigarette prices as are adults.
For every 10 percent price increase, the number of underage
smokers drops by 5 to 7 percent.
According to the Treasury Department:
Substantial real price increases are the best way to combat
youth smoking.
According to the National Cancer Institute:
An increase in the cigarette excise tax may be the most
effective single approach to reducing tobacco use by youths.
According to the Centers for Disease Control:
Tobacco use prevention activities should be designed to
prevent the use of all tobacco products. Such activities
should include increasing tobacco prices.
That is an extraordinary consensus--a consensus of the industry, a
consensus of independent health analysis, a consensus of our economic
advisers and economic analysts. I think that speaks volumes.
Mr. President, I urge my colleagues to also listen to someone who is
suffering from a lifetime of smoking. Listen to any of the people who
in their twenties and thirties have already begun to feel the impact,
and they will tell you how easy it is to buy a pack of cigarettes at
age 12 and 13 when it only costs as much as four or five candy bars.
Talk to women who will tell you that when they were adolescents, they
gladly made that choice about how to spend the change in their pockets
because cigarettes were going to keep them thin and candy bars would
not.
That is the story of Pamela Lafland, a 27-year-old mother of two who
lives in Boston. Several weeks ago, I met her, and I thank her for
sharing her story with me.
When Pam was 11 years old, she had a lot of the same dreams that most
young women have: She wanted to be attractive; she wanted to be
successful; and she wanted to, while she was younger, look older sooner
so that she could start making what she thought were grown-up decisions
in a grown-up life.
She took her pocket change down to the corner grocery store and she
bought cigarettes. She got hooked. At 11, she was already dreaming of
having children some day, and at age 22, she had her kids. At age 24,
because of juvenile emphysema, she was now raising them from a
wheelchair. At age 26, she had a lung transplant, and today her body is
rejecting her lung. Her medical bills have exceeded $200,000, and she
has found out, as she says herself, that when she was young, cigarettes
were cheap, they were readily available, she didn't know to the
contrary, and today she knows she could never measure the cost of a
pack of cigarettes in quarters and dimes and nickels.
For Pam, the cost has been her health, and in many ways, the
structure of her life, the quality of her life. Pam tells me that
raising the price of cigarettes would have made a difference to her and
will spare children today from a price system that allows children to
make the grown-up decisions that all but guarantee that when they do
grow up, they are not going to have a lot to look forward to.
I think we ought to listen to Pam, and we ought to listen to a lot of
people like Pam who are similarly suffering in some stage of their life
as the consequence of the ready accessibility in the United States of
what we know to be a killer narcotic substance.
We have heard a few Members of the Senate coming to the floor and
suggesting that raising the price of cigarettes is going to hurt low-
income people. Mr. President, there is a certain question mark, I
guess, to put it politely, that raises when some of those people who
have opposed health care for children, who have opposed day care, who
have opposed raising the minimum wage, who have opposed student loans
for people who are struggling--all of these things--are all of a sudden
here on the floor, those very same people are the ones standing up in
defense of ``poor people'' who are going to be hurt because the pack of
cigarettes is going to cost more.
Leaving aside that question mark about what brings them to the floor
suddenly as the protectors of the poor in this instance is the fact
that it suggests that somehow poor people do not care about their
children's smoking, that it is OK to protect getting cancer on the
cheap, that what we are going to do is somehow protect the notion that
if we keep cigarettes cheap, poor people can buy them and get cancer,
since more and more people in poor areas of America, in urban areas,
are the ones in whom we see the highest increase in smoking today.
So the argument is, we are going to protect you from the increase in
the pack of cigarettes, which is going to make it cheaper for you to
get cancer, cheaper for you to have your kids' lives ruined. It is an
insult to poor people to suggest that they are not just as supportive
of raising the price of cigarettes so their kids will not go down and
buy them with whatever pocket change they have. We ought to recognize
that. We should not be making it easier for a pack of cigarettes to be
accessible to people for whom those cigarettes have become one of the
better alternatives to some of the other problems that they have in
their lives.
In poll after poll--in poll after poll--a large majority of those
people with incomes below $30,000 a year favor raising the price of
tobacco, the price of cigarettes. And they do it because they do care
about their kids and because they do want to have an opportunity to
have those kids grow up healthy and capable of enjoying the fullness of
their lives. Low-income people, just like wealthier people, understand
that we have to reduce youth smoking.
They also support raising the price because they recognize that
spending on tobacco represents about less than 2 percent in spending in
any income category. It isn't an issue of income or class; it has
nothing to do with your occupation or the size of your family budget.
It boils down to a consensus that by far most Americans want the U.S.
Senate to do the right thing, which is to take cigarettes out of the
hands of children. And the way you take cigarettes out of the hands of
children is partly to raise the price, which has been deemed to be the
most effective method, but also to engage in counteradvertising,
research on addiction, cessation programs, and other things that I will
talk about in a minute.
So I believe this bill hits that mark. Senator McCain has reviewed
each section of this legislation and laid out the ways in which it
helps to prevent youth from smoking.
Studies have shown that low-income smokers in Great Britain on
average reduced their expenditures on cigarettes in response to a
tobacco tax increase there. We ought to look to other countries and
take the example from them. I think that is very significant, and the
reason is that a significant percentage of low-income smokers quit
smoking entirely in response to the price increase. Hooray. That is
precisely what we want to achieve.
So if we can induce a whole group of people--which is part of what is
factored into the volume adjustments of this bill--if we can induce
large numbers of people to quit, then, again, also the country will be
better off. So the policy works.
I think my colleagues need to be wary of those companies that have
actually targeted people in the past now coming to us and fostering
some kind of egalitarian argument when their
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lack of a sense of egalitarian sensitivity drove them to
actually target people in low-income communities to become addicted.
You cannot have it both ways. All of a sudden, this new concern is
obviously a concern which will continue to allow people to become
addicted and to buy cheap cancer. The only reason tobacco companies
oppose the higher prices is that they know it will diminish the number
of people who smoke.
Mr. President, I hope the U.S. Senate is going to be united in the
effort to reduce youth smoking. We are convinced by all the scientific
evidence and by decades of precedent, even by the secret--now not
secret--memos of the tobacco industry itself, that an increase in
cigarette price will reduce youth smoking. So we ought to end the
debate on the floor of the Senate about ``tax and spend.'' This did not
originate in the Senate, did not originate with Democrats, did not
originate as an idea of some political party that wanted to find
revenue. It originated out of scientific analysis and economic analysis
that tells us to a certainty that if the price of cigarettes goes up,
then the number of people who smoke goes down.
Then the next question for the Senate is, all right, if you have
raised the price, and you have X amount of new revenue coming in, what
is the best way to use that to continue to be able to reduce teenage
smoking and to have an impact on the impact of smoking itself? That is
what we are doing. That is precisely what this bill seeks to have an
impact on. It is not, in the final analysis, a regressive burden on
low-income families; it is a progressive idea that literally sends a
generation of American kids into a world that will be healthier and
safer no matter how much money their parents earn. It helps relieve all
Americans of $130 billion that we lose each year in medical costs, lost
wages, sick days, and all of the fallout from smoking.
As my colleagues come to the floor of the Senate and talk about the
cost of this bill--the cost of this bill is the cost of trying to limit
young people from smoking. The cost of not doing that is $130 billion a
year that every American is paying--even nonsmokers. Every single
American is required to fork out of their tax dollars every year at
least $1,370 per person in America to pay for the costs of other people
smoking. That is what we pay now. The hidden tax on America is the tax
of smoking itself for all of the diseases and trauma that come as a
consequence of that.
It helps--this bill--I believe, to relieve an individual smoker of
over $19,000, on average, in lifetime smoking-related medical costs--
more than double the average amount of a year of tuition at a public
university.
I want to point, Mr. President, to the chart here that talks about
the annual costs of smoking. We have 1 million kids who begin smoking
every single year. There are already 45 million smokers in the United
States. And, as we know, those 45 million smokers, 86 percent of them
started right here as young children smoking. The costs of this break
down to 420,000 deaths a year--a year. Those are people in a hospital
bed, in a pulmonary ward, with tubes sticking out of them, can't
breathe, oxygen, around-the-clock nursing, extraordinary medical
costs--420,000 deaths a year; more people, as we know now, than died in
all of World War II, all of Korea, Vietnam, Desert Storm, put together,
every year--every year--in the United States.
We have an opportunity to do something about that, and we are sitting
here playing politics about it rather than trying to find the best way
of doing something about it--420,000 deaths every single year directly
related to smoking; $80 billion in lost productivity to the country as
a consequence of the sickness and the disease that people pay the price
for as a consequence of smoking; $80 billion in just total health care
costs. That is just the cost for caring for 420,000 people dying and
for the people who are not dying or are not yet dead in the
outyears. There are 420,000 people who die a year as a result, but in
the preceding year--and the preceding years--they are just sick, but
very sick, and cost enormous amounts of money.
So we are spending $80 billion a year because 86 percent of those
adults got hooked when they were kids. Here we are in the U.S. Senate
with an opportunity to stop them from getting hooked as kids, reducing
the number of adults smoking, reducing the amount of health care,
reducing the number of deaths. There is $24 billion just in Medicaid
and Medicare costs that come out of the pocket of every American. That
is the cost.
You want to talk about taxes? It is the cigarette tax on every
American that is obscene because most Americans didn't ask for that. At
least raising the pack of cigarettes is voluntary. You can choose
whether you are going to go in and buy them. You can choose whether you
will buy one pack or one carton. You can choose how much you will pay
out of your own pocket. But these costs, no American gets a choice
about these costs. These are forced on every American. These are put to
every American as a consequence of our allowing a narcotic drug to be
sold over the counter in America. It is time we did something about it.
Now, some have suggested that we ought to take some of this money and
reduce the marriage penalty. I would like to reduce the marriage
penalty. Even though some Americans who get married aren't affected by
it, some are. We need to find a way to balance, how to do it smartly.
But if we take this money and don't put it into the effort of
researching addiction and don't put it into our children in terms of
confidence building, all of the things they need for self-esteem to
make judgments not to smoke, to help with child care, to help with the
after-school times, which is when most of these kids go out and start
smoking, when there is no parent home--when school lets out at 2
o'clock in the afternoon and they are hanging out on the street corner
with their friends and we don't have enough time to give them something
constructive to do--that is when it happens.
Instead of providing that kind of constructive oversight with this
money, some want to get rid of the marriage penalty. You get rid of the
marriage penalty and you will not have done anything to reduce these
kids from smoking. I am for getting rid of the marriage penalty, but
don't take it out of the ``hide'' of the effort to get our kids
unhooked from cigarettes. That doesn't make sense. That is not the
smartest tradeoff we have been presented with in the U.S. Senate.
Surely we could find a way to agree to vote on the marriage penalty--
and I will vote to get rid of it--at the appropriate time.
If we can't do that, then let us at least whittle down some kind of
sensible tax rebate to the people who we are supposedly expressing the
greatest concern about--poor people--who are going to be paying more
because they are buying cigarettes, and target that in some kind of
responsible way. If we did that, then, I think, we really would be
consistent with the effort to try to reduce teenage smoking. That is
what we have to keep focused on here. Every time we get diverted, let
us come back to what this is about: It is only about stopping our
children from smoking, finding the way to reduce the numbers of kids
who smoke. And we have to find the most sensible ways to try to do
that.
Now, it seems to me that what the Senator from Arizona has described
in his opening statement really lays out a series of things that we
believe are able to try to do that. In the inner cities of our country,
there is a 78-percent likelihood that a child is going to start smoking
before the age of 18. What does that mean? It means you will have a
young woman who is more than two times more likely than a woman who
doesn't smoke to have a low-birth-weight child. It means you will have
the highest rates of juvenile emphysema and asthma in our urban
centers. It means we will have a generation on the road to cancer of
the mouth, throat, larynx, esophagus, pancreas, bladder, and kidney.
Cigarettes are killing more children than ever before in our most
underserved communities. The obligation of this legislation is to find
a way to try to reduce that.
What do we do in this bill? We hear people coming out here and
talking about ``bureaucracy and government.'' We have left most of the
options here to the States. In fact, there are minimal numbers of
mandates. The mandates are simply sort of a Federal effort to say we
want to make sure they
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stay on the target of trying to reduce kids from smoking but gives the
States a pretty fair recipe as to how to do that. And it leaves the
States the option of giving a tax cut. As the Senator from Arizona
said, they can make their own choice. The big hand of Washington
doesn't have to step in and tell them what to do. If they decide they
want to take some of the money that comes back from this revenue and
give them a tax cut, they can do that. We don't stop them.
So it seems there is ample opportunity here. But most importantly,
this bill sets up a structure for some cessation programs for
counteradvertising, for research. Every single one of those are related
to stopping children from smoking. We don't know all that science can
tell us about addiction yet. Therefore, we have laid out a certain
component of funding here to fund additional research on a national
basis to try to learn more. Maybe we can come up with some kind of
vaccine, Mr. President. Maybe we will come up with some kind of a
magical combination of education and early input that makes it
exceedingly difficult for people to make the choice to smoke. Maybe
there is some easy antidote. We don't know yet. Whatever it is that
triggers the mechanism in the chemical structure that makes people
addicted, we ought to be researching. That is what we do. We put money
into research so we can reduce the impact on our society of the $80
billion a year of medical costs. We have counteradvertising. We have
learned that is a very, very significant way of reducing people from
smoking. There are very significant evidences of that. It seems to me
that we ought to keep our eye focused on that.
Let me try to document that a little bit with an example. In
Massachusetts, we were able to fight our State's addiction to
cigarettes by a combination of raising tobacco prices and funding
tobacco-control programs, exactly what we are talking about doing in
this legislation. In 1992, Massachusetts voters approved Question 1, a
ballot initiative, to increase the excise tax on cigarettes by 25
cents. The funds from that 25 cents were spent on cessation, outreach,
a Smoker's Quitline, media campaigns about the dangers of tobacco, as
well as research. The Smoker's Quitline, which is 1-800-TRY-TO-STOP,
received over 35,000 calls through June 1996. It distributed 23,000
cessation materials. The media campaign is entitled ``It's Time We Made
Smoking History'' and it reached 94 percent of the children in my
State. The Tobacco Education Clearinghouse distributed over 2 million
pieces of tobacco information literature in English, Portuguese,
Spanish, Vietnamese, and other languages, and 66 primary health care
sites have provided smoking cessation programs with individual
cessation counseling and advice to 36,000 patients. Forty-nine youth
tobacco education programs sponsored 2,570 community tobacco education
events, which reached 950,000 Massachusetts youth. Thirty-three
population at-risk programs provided tobacco education and cessation
activities to targeted racial, ethnic, and gender groups.
What were the results of these efforts? The annual per person
cigarette consumption in Massachusetts dropped by approximately 30
percent from 1992 to 1997. The plan is working. There is no denying
that. So what we are talking about in this bill is not pie in the sky,
it is not some made-up notion of a do-good/feel-good concept. It works.
It has proven to work. The only question before the U.S. Senate is
whether we are prepared to maximize our efforts to reduce young people
smoking and reduce the tax on Americans of smoking that occurs today,
even for those who don't smoke and haven't asked for that tax.
The research shows that we are not talking about some Massachusetts--
this is not a miracle or pie-in-the-sky. This can work all around the
country. In the last 10 years, States from Minnesota to California to
Arizona have invested in similar community-based antismoking campaigns.
The American Stop Smoking Intervention Study for Cancer Prevention has
provided funding to 17 States for smoking prevention programs, and they
have managed to cut tobacco consumption by 10 percent in just 4 years.
So, Mr. President, here you have it. In our State, we have a 30-
percent reduction. In California, Minnesota, and Arizona, where they
have made these efforts, small as they are, there has been a 10-percent
reduction. What we are saying in this legislation is that if we can
take this tobacco revenue and apply it to teenage smoking reduction
efforts, we will reduce the number of Americans who are addicted, we
will reduce the number of Americans who die each year because of this,
we will reduce the amazing cost to our society of the burden of our
health care, and we will reduce the Medicare and Medicaid component
that is associated with it, the tax burden.
This is a tax cut plan. This will reduce the cost to America over
time, and that is why it makes sense. We also know that
counteradvertising works. We need to be empowered--and this legislation
seeks to do that--to reach millions of young kids in ways that will
change their attitudes about smoking.
I know that my colleague from Oklahoma expressed concern last week
about the increase in marijuana use in the United States and the
increase in smoking. I share that concern with him. There is an
inexcusable rise in the level of marijuana smoking taking place. One of
the reasons is that there has been a fallback on the commitment that
was made a number of years ago to the kinds of proactive efforts of
sports stars, role models, advertising, and other efforts that are so
essential to helping kids perform the roles and attitudes necessary not
to smoke.
For decades, we have had the tobacco industry pushing cigarettes that
taste sweet. I read a Wall Street Journal article where a former
tobacco sales representative is quoted as arguing, ``This cigarette is
for somebody who likes the taste of candy, if you know what I'm
saying.'' Well, we know exactly what he means, Mr. President. What we
ought to be doing is empowering local communities who know what he is
saying to deliver a countermessage against youth smoking.
Mr. President, in States where they have run messages against youth
smoking--places like Arizona--it has worked. It has brought children
out of risk. Nationally, I don't think any one of us will ever forget
some of the ads we have seen, like the Marlboro Man dying in a hospital
bed from lung cancer. He was the guy who was sitting on the horse with
the hat on and moustache, looking so macho, selling a generation of
cigarettes. He died from lung cancer last year, regretting the smoking
and regretting the image that he portrayed, and he made an
advertisement about it. That is effective. There was an advertisement
of a cigarette addict who lost her larynx to smoking through her
tracheotomy. I have talked with teenagers who quit smoking the day they
saw those ads. Can anybody say that the effect is going to be the same
the day we get rid of the marriage penalty?
Come on, Mr. President, let's face it. The reality is that everybody
understands if we can run an effective national effort in order to try
to counter the impact on our children, we will make a difference. It is
up to the U.S. Senate to make that difference now. We have a choice
about our priorities. We can come down here and continue to wage the
fight against the tobacco companies who continue to stand in opposition
to a bill that tries reasonably to deal with the problem of smoking. I
say to my colleagues, where it isn't reasonable, let's amend it. Let's
come down to the floor with an appropriate substitute or amendment and
let's pass it, if it is worthy. If it isn't, let's complete work on
this legislation and do what we ought to do to reduce the access of
smoking to our children.
It seems to me that it is not hard to discern that the purpose of
this bill is genuine and it is simple: It saves children's lives. It
could save a generation. And it does so with minimal bureaucracy,
minimal intrusiveness, and minimal interference. I am open to any ideas
that anybody has which will sustain a counteradvertising program,
sustain the cessation programs, sustain research into addiction, but at
the same time do it somehow with less ``bureaucracy'' or intrusiveness.
I am confident the Senator from Arizona and I would accept an amendment
if it did so in a way that sustained the fundamental purposes of this
legislation.
So we have this opportunity, and there is no higher priority in the
agenda of this Nation, there is no higher
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priority in the business of the U.S. Senate. It is hard sometimes to
make the words as meaningful as one wants to, hard to find a way to get
over the partisan tug-of-war that takes place here, and it is hard
sometimes to get the full measure of what this is about. The full
measure of what this is about is not the measure of a price of a pack
of cigarettes, it is the measure of a child's life, it is the measure
of what it is like to have emphysema and be in a hospital because you
haven't made the decision that was cognitive when you were young. It is
the measure of our responsibility as adults and as citizens to be able
to reach our children at a stage when they are most impressionable and
subject to making these kinds of mistakes. That is the measure of what
we are doing here. I hope the U.S. Senate will measure up and do what
every American understands is in the interest of our Nation and in the
interest of our children.
I yield the floor.
Mr. McCAIN addressed the Chair.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Arizona is recognized.
Mr. McCAIN. Mr. President, I thank the Senator from Massachusetts for
his important statement and the important comments he has made. I will
yield the floor in a minute to Senator Wellstone, who is waiting.
I want to make a couple additional points here. One of the aspects of
this bill that has been raised is, of course, the legal fees. There is
no doubt that that issue has to be addressed. The President tried to
address it in one of his amendments, which I supported. I believe that
he and others are working together to try to guarantee that most of the
money goes to the public and would still leave the lawyers plenty of
room to get rich. That is our goal here, and I think we can achieve
that without too much difficulty on a consensus basis.
On the issue of the look-back, the so-called Durbin amendment that we
are specifically debating, let me point out that if the so-called look-
back provisions are made strictly company-specific--remembering that in
the bill we have an uncapped company-by-company surcharge of $1,000 per
youth smoker--there can be wild gyrations in the cost of a pack of
cigarettes, which would really drive those specific companies out of
business. If it were strictly company by company, if one company did
not achieve the goals and had to increase its payments by a significant
amount, those costs would have to be passed on, as we know, to the
consumer. That would drive the tobacco company out of business.
I repeat, we are not trying to drive the tobacco companies out of
business, we are trying to drive them out of the business of marketing
to kids. What you would really end up doing if we adopted the Durbin
amendment is basically cause wild gyrations in the cost of a pack of
cigarettes and drive companies out of business. Mr. President, what we
have done in the managers' amendment is basically strike a compromise
between an overall penalty to the industry, but also a specific penalty
of $1,000 per youth smoker, which, by the way, is double the amount a
young person spends on cigarettes per year.
That is a very significant penalty. I would point out that the Durbin
amendment would also increase the cost to about $7 billion where ours
is approximately $4 billion.
Mr. President, I do not see the Senator from Massachusetts in the
Chamber, but I think it is important for us to recognize something else
here, too, that has been going on. I know that many of my colleagues
dislike the tobacco companies. I have to say, in all candor, I have
grown to like them less as I have been seeing my name splashed all over
newspapers, television and listened to it on radio for about the last
month, but let us not forget what we are trying to do here. Are we
trying to just drive tobacco companies out of business, which probably
would not upset me if I did not believe and know that 40 million adult
Americans would still smoke.
If American tobacco companies went out of business, two things would
happen: One, there would be a Marlboro or a Camel or another coming out
of Mexico, El Salvador, whatever; they would be exporting cigarettes
into the United States, which we would not have nearly as much control
over. So people would not stop smoking immediately if we drove all the
tobacco companies out of business. So it is not in our interest to
drive all the tobacco companies out of business, particularly since we
would also be deprived of the funds to be used to try to convince
children in America not to smoke.
So with all due respect to my colleague, what I see going on here,
interestingly, from both ends of the political spectrum is such
punitive amendments that we will drive the tobacco companies out of
business. Now, we will feel good; we will be able to go back and tell
our constituents: I voted for this amendment; I voted for that
amendment; I took away any protection that they had; I voted to
increase the price of a pack of cigarettes; I voted to make those
punitive provisions stronger and, by God, I showed those tobacco
companies.
Well, that may be a short-term gain, but it will not solve the
problem of kids smoking. That is why this bill had better not get too
far out of kilter. Now, I do rely on the experts. I do rely on their
opinion. I am not an expert. I am not an expert on smoking. I freely
admit that. But I listened to the Treasury Department. I listened to
the public health groups. I listened to the experts who told me that if
it becomes too punitive, too big in penalties, too big a price for the
tobacco companies to pay, they will do what the asbestos companies did
and that is declare bankruptcy and go out of business. So it may feel
real good to vote for an amendment that punishes the tobacco companies
further.
Now, I will admit, Mr. President, I have some subjectivity here
because I spent weeks and my staff spent hundreds, thousands of hours
sitting down saying, what is the best, carefully balanced package we
can come up with which achieves our goal. And that is why we received a
19-to-1 vote through the committee--because it had balance. We are in
danger of knocking this thing way out of balance, if we haven't
already.
Now, again, I will stop because the Senator from Minnesota is on the
floor, but we could sit here day after day, week after week, if we want
to, voting for amendments that punish the tobacco companies more and
more. But that will not stop a kid from smoking. Every day that goes by
3,000 kids will start smoking. Today 3,000 kids will start smoking.
Tomorrow 3,000 kids will start smoking.
So I urge my colleagues to understand what our goal here is--not to
drive the tobacco companies out of business, but to stop kids from
smoking. If you drive the tobacco companies out of business, which may
make one feel good, one, you are still going to have 40 million adult
smokers in America and probably kids smoking, too; and, two, you are
not going to effectively address this problem that we are trying to
through this legislation which was addressed on last June 20.
So I hope my colleagues will keep that in mind as we vote for
amendments and show how macho and tough we are on the tobacco
companies.
Mr. President, I yield the floor.
Mr. WELLSTONE addressed the Chair.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Minnesota.
Mr. WELLSTONE. Mr. President, first of all, let me say to my
colleague from Arizona I had a chance yesterday to speak in the
Chamber, and I have been wanting to say this while he is in the
Chamber. I read a very eloquent and really beautiful piece in the
Washington Post he had written about Senator Goldwater, who was, I
suppose, on the opposite side of the spectrum from where I stand, but I
talked about how especially in recent years--I never knew Senator
Goldwater, never had a chance to talk with him, but in recent years as
I have read about him and seen some of the things he said, I have so
much respect for the way in which he kind of tied together personal,
intellectual and political integrity.
I say to my colleague from Arizona, who will probably disagree with
the rest of what I say over the next several minutes, I do believe when
it comes to conscience and integrity we do have somebody who lives up
to that very high standard Senator Goldwater set. And that is Senator
McCain from Arizona. The only thing I didn't agree with in the article
the Senator wrote was when Senator McCain said he will
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just be a mere footnote in Senate history. I do not agree with that. I
think Senator McCain is an enormously important force here in the
Senate and in the country, and I better not go any further with that
because I am about to disagree with the rest of what he said.
Privilege of the Floor
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that David Vang, who as an
intern in his last day in our office, be allowed to be in the Chamber
during the debate today on this piece of legislation.
The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Sessions). Without objection, it is so
ordered.
Mr. WELLSTONE. I thank the Chair.
Mr. President, I agree with really what both my colleagues have had
to say, the Senator from Massachusetts, Mr. Kerry, and Senator McCain,
about what our goal is with this legislation, that we ought to keep our
eye on the prize. The goal is to reduce youth smoking and to save the
lives of children in our country and, I would argue, also children
throughout the world.
In that regard, from my perspective, not from the point of view of
being macho, I say to my colleague from Arizona, but from a point of
view of what I think would be the best public policy that would make a
difference, I think we took a step backwards when we did not raise the
price increase of cigarettes to $1.50 per pack. Senator Kennedy's
amendment, I think, was on the mark because I think if we had done that
over 3 years, demand, indeed, being elastic, would have gone down in a
very significant way especially with young people.
But regardless of the debate on that amendment, we move forward.
Senator McCain has labored long and hard to make this a good bill. So
have other Senators--Senator Kerry and Senator Hollings and others. But
again we all agree that the reduction of youth smoking and the
protection of children's lives should be the primary goal of this
legislation. So let us just say we are in agreement in that goal.
Now, we are forced to come to the floor of the Senate--and I am going
to speak about Senator Durbin's look-back provisions--and fight hard
for children and young people for some protection because big tobacco
for decades has employed legions of marketers who were paid to find
ways in which they could addict our children and procure them as future
long-term customers.
That is exactly what it has been all about. That was the mandate that
the advertising agents received from the tobacco industry. This
industry poured a tremendous amount of its wealth and its talent in
what they viewed as their mission. And, oh boy, were they successful.
We have heard it many times now; we hear it every day. Senator McCain
just recited the same statistic; 3,000 kids start smoking each day in
our country alone, and a third of them, at least a third of them, will
die a premature death due to tobacco-related illness. So these tobacco
companies know how to market and they know how to do it well. They are
experts. They have been experts at whispering in our children's ear and
seducing them to smoke. So let us now get these companies to use their
expertise to change the tenor of these whispers and to have them induce
our children not to smoke. For a long, long, long time--too long a
time--they targeted our children, they whispered in their ears, they
seduced them to smoke. They have the expertise. Now what we are going
to do is provide them with incentives to, in fact, get our children not
to smoke. These companies are responsible, or have been responsible,
for what Dr. David Kessler calls the ``pediatric disease of smoking.''
Let me repeat that, ``the pediatric disease of smoking.''
That is what the look-back provisions are all about. They are to make
the tobacco companies responsible for meeting certain youth-reduction
goals, and they hold them financially accountable if they fail to reach
these goals. Senator McCain is to be commended for the inclusion of
look-back provisions in the bill which we have before us today. But I
think, not from the point of view of trying to destroy the industry but
from the point of view of how we can, in fact, make sure we have the
right incentives to get these companies to make an all-out effort not
to target children and, in fact, reduce the number of children who are
smoking, I think we have to have stronger and better incentives. That
is why I come to the floor to support the Durbin-DeWine amendment.
I think what this amendment does, which is most important, is that it
makes the payments or the penalties for missing the youth-reduction
targets more company specific as opposed to primarily industry-wide.
I am worried about the industry-wide approach for a couple of
different reasons. First of all, I think what will probably happen is
that the industry, as a whole, will just simply say: Look, there is no
particular incentive for any one company to really go all-out to reduce
teenage smoking and we will just kind of share the additional cost.
But, you know what? In the long run, it will be more profitable to do
that.
The problem is that there is a negative incentive for companies to
try to live up to our goal. After all the goal is to reduce teenage
smoking. The goal is to dramatically reduce this addiction. The goal is
to dramatically reduce the death of people in our country. Therefore,
it would seem to me that if some companies are doing all they can to
meet that goal but other companies are not, and the industry as a whole
doesn't do the job, then everybody ends up having to pay a penalty, and
there is simply no incentive for a company to do right. The way it
stands now, if a certain company does make the effort to stop children
from smoking their cigarettes, but the rest of the industry doesn't,
then the company that did make the positive attempt is punished more
than any other. First, they are hit by the industry wide look back
payments even though they made every good-faith effort to do the right
thing. And, second of all, by doing the right thing they are
financially burdened by the loss of their youth market.
So it seems to me the look-back provisions in the bill as they now
stand are flawed, and I think to make the incentives or disincentives
more company-based, more specific-company focused, is a much more
effective public policy way of reaching our goal, which is to have a
dramatic reduction of teenage smoking.
The Durbin-DeWine amendment is also, I think, a strong improvement
because it raises the 10-year reduction goal from 60 percent to 67
percent. In our committee, the Labor and Human Resources Committee,
which for a short period of time had jurisdiction over this
legislation, Senator Kennedy had an amendment which passed the
committee which would have raised the goal to 80 percent, an 80-percent
reduction in youth smoking. We heard from any number of different
experts who said you can do that. We can do that and we should. This is
truly one place where we ought to set the bar as high as we can because
we are talking about children's lives. Children's lives are precious to
all of us. So I think by going to 67 percent, we have made a solid
improvement that is easily doable and I think we should set the goal
this high.
Let me just finish up this way. I now come back to why I come to the
floor to support the Durbin-DeWine amendment, which I think is a much
more effective way of reducing youth smoking. I think the look-back
provisions as they now stand are flawed. I do not think they are going
to work well. So we want to have a piece of legislation which will be
as strong as possible and will work well.
I say to my colleague from Arizona, no company gets put out of
existence. Every single company that makes a good-faith, all-out effort
to reach these achievable goals and reaches them, will not have any
problem at all. Those companies will have no look-back payments to
make. It is simple. There is no reason, no inherent reason in this
amendment that Senator Durbin and Senator DeWine have brought to the
floor, why any companies would have to worry about going out of
existence if, in fact, they make a commitment to live up to these
goals. And that is what it is all about.
I think the language of money is, in fact, the only language to which
this industry has responded. While the pleas of parents and children
and dying victims might fall on deaf ears, and they have for a long
time, the clinking of coins is a sound to which they are most surely
attuned.
So I think right now we have some provisions in the legislation that
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not think will work that well. I think this amendment that Senator
Durbin and Senator DeWine have brought to the floor makes a lot more
sense. Because if companies choose to use their marketing powers to
discourage teenagers from smoking, which is exactly what this look-back
provision will encourage them to do, they will avoid any look-back
payments and at the same time they will improve America's long-term
health. I think that is what this legislation is all about.
Since I have some additional time here, I want to let my colleagues
know that I will be introducing an amendment to extend the advertising
protections that children here in the United States will enjoy, to
extend those protections to children around the world. My understanding
is that the amendment tree is filled right now, but I want to talk a
little bit about this amendment. Again, as I have already said, the
purpose of this legislation is the reduction of youth smoking. I
believe the amendment I will introduce will further that goal and
because it will it should have strong support from this body. What I am
concerned about are some of the provisions in the legislation that deal
with the international activities of this renegade industry. I think
those provisions are inadequate.
What I want to do is to make sure that the advertising and marketing
restrictions that we have in this legislation also apply to the
international scope of these tobacco companies just the way Senator
McCain's bill was written when it passed out of Commerce Committee by a
19-to-1 vote. So, for example, if we are going to say: Look, industry,
you are not going to be able to use cartoon characters to market your
deadly products here in the United States of America; I would like to
say to these companies: You are not going to be able to use these
cartoon characters to market these deadly products in any market
overseas.
I'd like to provide a little context for my colleagues. I will
address this subject in more depth later on, but I wanted to draw from
some interesting documents my State of Minnesota was able to obtain
when Minnesota forced the tobacco industry to disgorge documents so
revealing that the industry has been hiding them for years. An R.J.
Reynolds document, penned in 1976, reads:
Evidence is now available to indicate that the 14-18 year
old group is an increasing segment of the smoking population.
RJR-(tobacco) must soon establish a successful new brand in
this market if our position in the industry is to be
maintained in the long term.
Or this from Philip Morris, in 1981:
Today's teenager is tomorrow's potential regular customer,
and the overwhelming majority of smokers first begin to smoke
while still in their teens . . . The smoking patterns of
teenagers are particularly important to Philip Morris.
The amendment I will introduce will basically say we need to put our
foot down. We ought to say: No more. No more addicting of children.
Tobacco industry, you need to cease and desist from diabolic marketing
tactics which target children, which addict children, and which
ultimately lead to the premature death of too many people, here and
abroad.
Some statistics about what Dr. Kessler has called the pediatric
disease of smoking. The World Health Organization projects a staggering
global death and disease burden related to tobacco use. The WHO
estimates that one-third of the world's population over the age of 15
currently smokes--one-third. This is equal to 1.1 billion smokers. Of
those 1.1 billion smokers, over 90 percent live outside the United
States and over 70 percent live in developing countries.
Let me simply mention a couple of other interesting statistics that I
will again get a chance to develop in this argument a little later on.
I will give just a few examples. Over the last decade in which U.S.
sales have declined by 17 percent, U.S. cigarette exports have grown by
a staggering 260 percent.
In 1996 alone, U.S. manufacturers exported a record 243.9 billion
cigarettes--243.9 billion cigarettes. I have to say to my colleague
from Arizona, I am not out here to bash, but I honestly and truthfully
believe and can marshal evidence--and I will when we get to debate this
amendment--that big tobacco has been absolutely shameless in its
efforts to addict children, not only in our country but abroad as well.
For example, if we are going to say, look, this is about reducing
teenage smoking, this is about saving children's lives, I think a child
is a child. We are talking about all of God's children. These
advertisements have been shameful. They have been irresponsible. But,
unfortunately, they also have been very successful.
It is no surprise that when U.S. companies go into overseas markets,
teenage smoking rates quickly climb. In Russia, from 1992 to 1993
smoking rates among 13 to 16-year-olds increased from 31.5 percent to
42.5 percent as a result of targeting efforts by tobacco companies.
Smoking rates among male Korean teenagers rose from 18 percent to 30
percent in just 1 year after the entry of U.S. tobacco companies. Let
me repeat that: Smoking rates among male Korean teenagers rose from 18
to 30 percent in just 1 year after the entry of U.S. tobacco companies.
Just 2 years after Taiwan's cigarette market was opened to U.S.
companies, the smoking rate among high school students increased 50
percent. In both Taiwan and Japan, U.S. brands jumped from 1 percent to
20 percent of the market in less than 2 years.
The United States National Cancer Policy Board has noted that the
introduction of U.S. cigarettes in Japan ``had the regrettable effect
of contributing to an increase in overall tobacco consumption,
especially among those under the age of 20.'' That is from the U.S.
National Cancer Policy Board.
My amendment will simply state that American tobacco companies, and
those they control, are prohibited from selling, distributing or
marketing tobacco products to children overseas, just as they will be
prohibited from such activities in the United States.
I have to say to you, Mr. President, that the good news is the bill
that was passed by the Commerce Committee by a 19-to-1 vote had
basically the same language as this amendment. And I say let us get
that language back in the bill.
My concern, as a United States Senator from Minnesota, is how can we
dramatically reduce smoking among teenagers, among young people? How
can we stop this shameless targeting of kids? Again, we had document
after document after document. I know my colleague who is presiding has
debated this. He has raised important questions--I always give that to
him--and he argues his case forcefully about lawyers and lawyers' fees
and all the rest. Fair enough. We have debated that, and we will debate
it again.
I will say this: In the Minnesota court case which was recently
settled, it is incredible the number of documents and the amount of
information we were able to get out before the public.
Those documents tell a very disturbing story of an industry which in
a very shameless way targeted kids and went all out to addict children.
What I will be doing with this amendment that I will offer is to say,
look, if we are going to be concerned about marketing to children in
our country, then we also ought to be concerned about it with children
abroad. The United States of America ought not to be known around the
world, especially in these poor developing countries, as a country with
an industry that is a leading exporter of death. That ought not to be
our identity with people in those countries. I think the same marketing
restrictions should apply. You no longer can use cartoon characters to
push the buttons of children and addict them to tobacco in our country,
and you are not going to do it in other countries either. That will be
the gist of the amendment I intend to introduce.
Mr. President, I do not see any colleagues on the floor, so I suggest
the absence of a quorum.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll.
The assistant legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
Mr. REED. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for
the quorum call be rescinded.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. REED. I rise today to speak on the amendment proposed by Senators
Durbin and DeWine which would, in fact, strengthen the look-back
penalty with respect to the tobacco legislation which we are
considering today on the floor.
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The key element to changing the tobacco legislation is providing for
a very strong, very tough, and a very appropriate look-back provision
which essentially would extract additional payments from the tobacco
industry if they fail to meet the goals in reducing teenage smoking.
This is at the heart and soul of the whole tobacco debate--preventing
children from getting easy access to tobacco products, preventing them
from engaging in an addiction which will lead to their premature death
in too many cases.
When the tobacco industry announced their initial agreement a year
ago with the attorneys general, they indicated a sincere desire, we
hoped, to change the culture of tobacco, to change the culture of the
way they deal with this product. Unfortunately, for many, many years,
perhaps the whole history of the tobacco industry, they have been
targeting young people as a means to boost their sales, as a means to
enlist and, indeed, addict a whole generation of young people to be
their customers. This approach, this marketing approach over many,
many, many years, has led to the premature deaths of thousands of
Americans. We have the opportunity now to stop that, if we do, in fact,
legislate strong protections like a good, solid look-back provision.
The tobacco industry has, as I indicated, spent billions of dollars
trying to ensure that children become addicted to tobacco. In many
respects, sadly, the tobacco industry has become addicted to children.
They just can't seem to thrive economically without them. We want to
change that addiction. We want to change the addiction that affects
children, and we would like to change the addiction that has affected
the industry. We would like them, if they are to market their product,
to do so to adults.
At the core of ensuring this happens is the requirement of having
stiff assessments against the industry if they fail to meet the goals
we have set out. That is at the core of the amendment proposed by
Senator Durbin and Senator DeWine. I commend them for this amendment.
It would strengthen significantly the protections and strengthen
significantly the look-back assessments that the industry would pay if
they fail to meet the goals of reducing teenage smoking.
We have seen, over the course of many, many years, the deliberate
attempt on the part of the industry to attract young people, to attract
teenagers, to get them smoking early, so that by the time they thought
about it, they were already addicted to tobacco products.
The most revealing source of information about the industry's tactics
has been the industry itself. In various litigation proceedings around
the country, documents have been discovered and released publicly that
indicate the systematic and very deliberate attempts by the industry to
addict children. Documents obtained through the Mangini litigation
further document these efforts. A presentation from a C.A. Tucker, vice
president of marketing for RJR Industries, concluded, ``This young
adult market, the 14 to 24 age group, represents tomorrow's business.''
Only, I think, would the industry think of ``young adults'' as 14-year-
old children. And it is quite clear and quite obvious they were
targeting these young children. They have done it in so many different
ways.
They have also indicated in documents released by the Mangini
litigation that they conducted extensive surveys of smoking habits of
teenagers. They were trying to find out essentially what makes
teenagers tick and how they can use those psychological forces to
addict children to cigarette smoking. This hasn't changed and won't
change this until we have a good, strong look-back provision.
The improvements which Senator Durbin and Senator DeWine are
suggesting are just the right approach to make this look-back
assessment a positive and forceful one. For example, they will move
away from the industry-wide assessment contained in the underlining
McCain bill and have more company-specific assessment. This makes
sense, because if a company thinks that they can act inappropriately,
they can take chances, play loose with the rules, market to kids, and
their competitors will help bail them out because the penalty is
assessed across all the companies--the good and the bad equally--there
will be no real incentive to change the behavior of individual
companies, to change the marketing approaches, to change the
advertising approaches, to assume and to ensure that what we have is a
situation where children are no longer subject to this type of
advertising.
This company-specific approach is going to be, I think, the key. That
is what is so critical about this amendment. If we don't have an
industry-wide standard for the look-back assessment, we will never
effectively change the behaviors of these companies. And, frankly, that
is what we should be about. This legislation should not be about simply
racking up huge payments from the industry. It should not be about how
we spend those payments, necessarily. It should be quite a bit about
changing behavior and the incentive of the industry so they stop trying
to market tobacco products to children.
Another important aspect of this amendment that is critical is that
this amendment would increase the target the industry must reach in 10
years from 60 percent to 67 percent. In essence, this amendment would
require a 67-percent reduction in teenage smoking in 10 years. That is
comparable to what the industry itself agreed to when they settled with
the attorneys general. These two provisions--the company-specific
approach, together with increasing the target reduction rate for teen
smoking--are absolutely essential to having comprehensive tobacco
legislation that will work and actually produce results. They will save
the lives of thousands and perhaps hundreds of thousands of young
people today, who otherwise will continue to be the targets of tobacco
advertising, will continue to be the targets of the industry and will,
I fear, fall under the sway of this tobacco addiction prematurely,
shortening their lives and impacting the public health of America.
I urge my colleagues to do all they can to ensure that this amendment
passes, and that we move from this amendment to consider other
amendments that will also control the access of information that kids
have about tobacco. I will propose an amendment that will condition the
receipt of tax deductibility of advertising expenditures in compliance
with the FDA rules for advertising. These amendments, together, are
steps that we can and should take immediately to ensure that we succeed
in changing the culture of the tobacco industry, that we succeed in
ensuring that we take historic steps so that children in America will
no longer be the victims of an industry that has preyed on them for too
long.
I urge my colleagues to join myself, Senator Durbin, Senator DeWine,
and the other cosponsors, in passing this act.
I yield the floor and suggest the absence of a quorum.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll.
The legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
Mr. CRAIG. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for
the quorum call be rescinded.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
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