[Congressional Record Volume 143, Number 160 (Thursday, November 13, 1997)]
[House]
[Pages H10790-H10793]
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PROVIDING FOR AN EXCEPTION FROM THE LIMITATION OF CLAUSE 6(d) OF RULE X 
          FOR THE COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT REFORM AND OVERSIGHT

  Mr. LINDER. Mr. Speaker, by direction of the Committee on Rules, I 
call up House Resolution 326 and ask for its immediate consideration.
  The Clerk read the resolution, as follows:

                              H. Res. 326

       Resolved, That upon the adoption of this resolution the 
     Committee on Government

[[Page H10791]]

     Reform and Oversight may have not more than eight 
     subcommittees for the duration of the One Hundred Fifth 
     Congress, notwithstanding clause 6(d) of rule X.

  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Georgia [Mr. Linder] is 
recognized for 1 hour.
  Mr. LINDER. Mr. Speaker, for the purpose of debate only, I yield the 
customary 30 minutes to the gentlewoman from New York [Ms. Slaughter], 
pending which I yield myself such time as I may consume. During 
consideration of this resolution, all time yielded is for the purpose 
of debate only.
  (Mr. LINDER asked and was given permission to revise and extend his 
remarks and include extraneous material.)
  Mr. LINDER. Mr. Speaker, this rule provides for an exception from the 
limitation of clause 6(d) of House rule X to permit the Committee on 
Government Reform and Oversight to temporarily establish an eighth 
subcommittee for the remainder of the 105th Congress.
  When the House adopted the opening day rules package for the 104th 
Congress, it amended clause 6(d) of House rule X to require that no 
House committee shall have more than five subcommittees. As a result of 
this change, the number of subcommittees of standing committees fell 
from 118 in the 103d Congress to 84 in the 104th Congress.
  However, the rule made an exception for the Committee on Government 
Reform and Oversight. The panel was authorized by the rule to have no 
more than seven subcommittees. The committee was granted the exception 
because it absorbed the functions of two standing committees, the 
District of Columbia Committee and the Post Office and Civil Service 
Committee, which the House also abolished as part of the opening day 
package of reforms.
  The issues which were consolidated in the government reform panel are 
important, complex, and often contentious. This is particularly so with 
respect to the Census Bureau's plans for conducting the year 2000 
decennial census. It is an issue that is so complex and contentious 
that it has held up passage of the Commerce, Justice, State 
appropriations bill until the very last day of this session.
  The Committee on Government Reform and Oversight believes that the 
type of oversight that is needed over issues such as sampling, 
questionnaire content, and continuous measurement cannot be done 
effectively by the full committee or by its other subcommittees. Thus, 
the resolution will allow the committee to establish an eighth 
subcommittee to accommodate the need for extensive oversight over the 
census.
  I share the concerns of some in the minority that we resist the 
temptation to expand the number of subcommittees in the House. Some 
will suggest that oversight of the census can be achieved by 
transferring that responsibility to another subcommittee, or by 
consolidating subcommittees to make room for a census subcommittee 
under the existing limit.
  As I mentioned, the committee feels that effective oversight cannot 
be conducted under the existing subcommittee structure, and I am 
inclined to give the committee the benefit of the doubt.
  But to protect against a permanent expansion of the committee 
bureaucracy, this resolution does not change the limitations of clause 
6(d) of rule X. It simply provides for what will essentially be a 1-
year exception for the purposes I just outlined.
  I also believe that, irrespective of this temporary exemption, 
additional subcommittee downsizing is achievable, and that it would 
facilitate more integrated approaches to policymaking and oversight.
  Further, it is my hope that the expenses needed to establish this 
temporary new subcommittee will, to the extent possible, be derived 
from the existing resources of the Committee on Government Reform and 
Oversight.
  Given the unique nature of the request for this additional 
subcommittee and the safeguards against a permanent increase in 
committee bureaucracy, I urge the adoption of this rule.
  Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding me the 
customary 30 minutes, and I yield myself such time as I may consume.
  Mr. Speaker, in the 103d Congress, as the chair of the Democratic 
caucus committee on oversight, study, and review, I was responsible for 
drafting the Democratic caucus rules that implemented most of the 
current limitations on the number of subcommittees that any committee 
may have. While working on this issue, I had the opportunity to review 
the history of the House on the issue of the number of committees and 
subcommittees. I found that in each major reorganization, the number of 
committees and subcommittees was reduced. However, in each case soon 
thereafter the number of each began to creep upward again. Therefore, 
it is of little surprise to me that the majority is beginning to 
retreat from its self-proclaimed reforms. What I do find surprising is 
that they are making this exception with so little thought and 
displaying a notable lack of planning and foresight.
  At last night's Committee on Rules meeting, only the chair of the 
subcommittee that currently has oversight over the census testified. He 
was unable to tell us how much the additional subcommittee would cost. 
He was unable to tell us where the extra funds would come from. He was 
unable to tell us why the committee chose not to reorganize their seven 
subcommittees so that the subcommittee with the census would have fewer 
other areas of jurisdiction. He did not tell us why the committee's 
leadership when organizing the subcommittee for this Congress did not 
take into account the increased activity on the census. The decennial 
census does not take any of us by surprise. As my friends in the 
majority often remind us, the census is mandated in article I, section 
2 of the Constitution. Did the committee leadership forget the census 
was coming up in the year 2000 when it organized? Or do we have a 
multitude of new issues regarding the conduct of the census?
  Mr. Speaker, I testified at a 1989 hearing on the census. My 
testimony centered on the problems of the census undercount and its 
implications for a representative government such as ours. And what was 
the controversial topic at that time? This is 1989. Whether sampling 
should be used to correct the undercount.
  Mr. Speaker, as Members can see, these issues, while very important, 
are neither new nor unable to be anticipated when the Committee on 
Government Reform and Oversight organized earlier this year. Perhaps 
the committee is forming an eighth subcommittee to request more 
resources from the House. If this were the case, one would hope that 
they would at least know how much they would need. But last night's 
testimony was that they did not know. We should remember that this 
committee, the Committee on Government Reform and Oversight, already 
has the largest budget and the largest staff of any of the committees 
funded through the legislative appropriations bill. Surely within its 
more than $20 million budget, which is an increase of 47 percent over 
the 104th Congress, and within its more than 134 employees, it could 
simply reallocate resources to the effort. But, no, we are told that we 
must make an exemption from the subcommittee limitation rule for the 
Committee on Government Reform and Oversight, a committee that already 
has two more subcommittees than most legislative committees. As the 
Member who for 4 years had the responsibility of reviewing changes in 
caucus and House rules, I know that sometimes flexibility is required. 
Exceptional, unforeseen circumstances can and do occur. However, this 
proposal does not meet any of the criteria that might warrant a rules 
exception. The census was clearly foreseeable. The committee has both 
the ability and the resources to reallocate jurisdiction among its 
current seven subcommittees to adjust for the increasing census 
workload. A proposal worthy of a change in House rules would include a 
proposed budget and staffing needs. From testimony at the Rules hearing 
last night, this proposed change has not been thought out even as to 
those basic, minimal requirements.

  Mr. Speaker, this rules change itself is not that important. However, 
it does reveal the propensity shown by this supposedly conservative 
majority to simply change the House rules or, for that matter, the U.S. 
Constitution for convenience or for politics. A true conservative would 
join me in demanding a rigorous analysis of the need to change either. 
Certainly this proposal

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does not meet that test. I ask my colleagues to reject this hasty, ill-
conceived exemption from the House rules.
  Mr. Speaker, I urge a ``no'' vote on the previous question. If it is 
defeated, I will offer an amendment to guarantee the House a separate 
vote on additional funding to what already is the most expensive 
committee in this House. I ask that the amendment be printed 
immediately before the vote on the previous question.
  Mr. Speaker, I ask my colleagues to live up to their promises of 
accountability. Do not tap the slush fund. Vote ``no'' on the previous 
question so that the House will vote on additional funding.
  Mr. Speaker, I include material on ordering the previous question, as 
follows:

       This vote, the vote on whether to order the previous 
     question on a special rule, is not merely a procedural vote.
       A vote against ordering the previous question is a vote 
     against the Republican majority agenda and a vote to allow 
     the opposition, at least for the moment, to offer an 
     alternative plan.
       It is a vote about what the House should be debating.
       The vote on the previous question on a rule does have 
     substantive policy implications. It is one of the only 
     available tools for those who oppose the Republican 
     majority's agenda to offer an alternative plan.

  The text of the proposed amendment is as follows:

Previous Question for H. Res. 326--Amending Clause 6(d), Rule X--Adding 
                          an 8th Subcommittee

       At the end of the resolution, add the following new 
     section:
       ``Sec.   . Any funding provided pursuant to this resolution 
     must be approved by the House.''

  Mr. RANGEL. Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of H.R. 867, the Adoption 
and Safe Families Act of 1997 because I believe it can improve the 
lives of many children who find themselves in foster care. 
Congresswoman Barbara Kennelly and Congressman David Camp deserves our 
thanks for pulling together a bill that enjoys broad bipartisan 
support--and for negotiating a good compromise with our Senate 
colleagues.
  H.R. 867 makes commonsense improvements in our child welfare and 
foster care laws. It makes clear that, in making a reasonable efforts 
to reunify a family, the child's is paramount. It reauthorizes the 
capped entitlement funds that we have set aside to preserve and reunify 
families and promote adoption. It extends health insurance to those 
children with special needs who cannot be adopted without such 
coverage. And, it creates an incentive system that will reward those 
States that increase the number of children who are adopted out of 
foster care. These are all good reforms, and long overdue.
  H.R. 867 may have an even more dramatic effect on the lives of 
children in foster care. Its success depends, in large measure, on how 
the States implement the provisions of this new law. It can reduce the 
number of children in foster care if State's take seriously our 
instruction to begin proceedings to terminate parental rights sooner 
under certain circumstances. But, handled the wrong way, this new 
requirement could just as easily spell disaster.
  If the end result of this requirement is to flood the courts with 
requests to terminate parental rights, we will have done little to help 
these children. And, if States make excessive use of their authority to 
ignore these requirements when there is a compelling reason to do so, 
little will have been accomplished. A delicate balancing act is 
required, for each and every child, to make certain that we have done 
all that we can to assure that these children have the happiest, 
healthiest home environment possible.
  Let me also comment on the provision of the bill that addresses 
adoption of children across State lines. The folklore would have it 
that States hold on to children who could otherwise be adopted out of 
State because they don't want to give up the Federal foster care 
payment. More likely, they fear that they cannot adequately monitor 
these placements. Whatever, the reason, this bill makes clear that 
geographically alone should not be a barrier to adoptive placement.
  This provision deliberately does not mirror the language of the 
Multi-Ethnic Placement Act--which calls for States to follow a first 
come, first served approach to adoptions, turning a blind eye to race 
and ethnicity. My views on that act are clear. Our paramount concern 
should be what is best for the child, not what is best for the adults 
who may be waiting to adopt that child.
  H.R. 867 makes clear that we are not applying this shortsighted, 
first come, first served approach to adoptive placements across State 
lines. We leave in the hands of the professionals decisions about what 
the best placement is for the child and instruct States to take steps 
to eliminate any arbitrary barriers to adoption across State lines. 
This, in my view, is a far more responsible, and practical approach 
that was taken in the Multi Ethnic Placement Act.
  Mr. Speaker, more than half a million of our children are in foster 
care today, twice as many as were in care in the mid 1980's. With a 
little support from us, most of these children will return home. For 
those that cannot, the adoption provisions of H.R. 867 can make a 
difference. A happy, healthy permanent home is our goal--for every one 
of these children.
  Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.
  Mr. LINDER. Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time, and I 
move the previous question on the resolution.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on ordering the previous 
question.
  The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that 
the ayes appeared to have it.
  Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, I object to the vote on the ground that a 
quorum is not present and make the point of order that a quorum is not 
present.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Evidently a quorum is not present.
  The Sergeant at Arms will notify absent Members.
  Pursuant to clause 5 of rule XV, the Chair will reduce to 5 minutes 
the minimum time for electronic voting, if ordered, on the question of 
adoption of the resolution.
  The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--yeas 220, 
nays 194, not voting 18, as follows:

                             [Roll No. 633]

                               YEAS--220

     Aderholt
     Archer
     Armey
     Bachus
     Baker
     Ballenger
     Barr
     Barrett (NE)
     Bartlett
     Barton
     Bass
     Bateman
     Bereuter
     Bilbray
     Bilirakis
     Bliley
     Blunt
     Boehlert
     Boehner
     Bonilla
     Bono
     Brady
     Bryant
     Bunning
     Burr
     Burton
     Buyer
     Callahan
     Calvert
     Camp
     Campbell
     Canady
     Cannon
     Castle
     Chabot
     Chambliss
     Chenoweth
     Christensen
     Coble
     Coburn
     Collins
     Cook
     Cooksey
     Cox
     Crane
     Crapo
     Cunningham
     Davis (VA)
     Deal
     DeLay
     Diaz-Balart
     Dickey
     Doolittle
     Dreier
     Duncan
     Dunn
     Ehlers
     Ehrlich
     Emerson
     English
     Ensign
     Everett
     Ewing
     Fawell
     Foley
     Forbes
     Fossella
     Fowler
     Fox
     Franks (NJ)
     Frelinghuysen
     Gallegly
     Ganske
     Gekas
     Gibbons
     Gilchrest
     Gillmor
     Gilman
     Goodlatte
     Goodling
     Goss
     Graham
     Granger
     Greenwood
     Gutknecht
     Hansen
     Hastert
     Hastings (WA)
     Hayworth
     Hefley
     Herger
     Hill
     Hilleary
     Hobson
     Hoekstra
     Horn
     Hostettler
     Hulshof
     Hunter
     Hutchinson
     Hyde
     Inglis
     Istook
     Jenkins
     Johnson (CT)
     Johnson, Sam
     Jones
     Kasich
     Kelly
     Kim
     King (NY)
     Kingston
     Klug
     Knollenberg
     Kolbe
     LaHood
     Largent
     Latham
     LaTourette
     Lazio
     Leach
     Lewis (CA)
     Lewis (KY)
     Linder
     Livingston
     LoBiondo
     Lucas
     Manzullo
     McCollum
     McCrery
     McDade
     McHugh
     McInnis
     McIntosh
     McKeon
     Metcalf
     Mica
     Miller (FL)
     Moran (KS)
     Morella
     Myrick
     Nethercutt
     Neumann
     Ney
     Northup
     Norwood
     Nussle
     Oxley
     Packard
     Pappas
     Parker
     Paul
     Paxon
     Pease
     Peterson (PA)
     Petri
     Pickering
     Pitts
     Pombo
     Porter
     Portman
     Pryce (OH)
     Quinn
     Radanovich
     Ramstad
     Redmond
     Regula
     Rogan
     Rogers
     Rohrabacher
     Ros-Lehtinen
     Roukema
     Royce
     Ryun
     Salmon
     Sanford
     Saxton
     Scarborough
     Schaefer, Dan
     Schaffer, Bob
     Sensenbrenner
     Sessions
     Shadegg
     Shaw
     Shays
     Shimkus
     Shuster
     Skeen
     Smith (MI)
     Smith (NJ)
     Smith (TX)
     Smith, Linda
     Snowbarger
     Solomon
     Souder
     Spence
     Stearns
     Stump
     Sununu
     Talent
     Tauzin
     Taylor (NC)
     Thomas
     Thornberry
     Thune
     Tiahrt
     Traficant
     Upton
     Walsh
     Wamp
     Watkins
     Watts (OK)
     Weldon (FL)
     Weldon (PA)
     Weller
     Whitfield
     Wicker
     Wolf
     Young (AK)
     Young (FL)

                               NAYS--194

     Abercrombie
     Ackerman
     Allen
     Andrews
     Baesler
     Baldacci
     Barcia
     Barrett (WI)
     Becerra
     Bentsen
     Berman
     Berry
     Bishop
     Blagojevich
     Blumenauer
     Bonior
     Borski
     Boswell
     Boucher
     Boyd
     Brown (CA)
     Brown (FL)
     Brown (OH)
     Cardin
     Carson
     Clay
     Clayton
     Clement
     Clyburn
     Condit
     Conyers
     Costello
     Coyne
     Cramer
     Cummings
     Danner
     Davis (FL)
     Davis (IL)
     DeFazio
     DeGette
     Delahunt
     DeLauro
     Dellums
     Deutsch
     Dicks
     Dingell
     Dixon
     Doggett

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     Dooley
     Doyle
     Edwards
     Engel
     Eshoo
     Etheridge
     Evans
     Farr
     Fattah
     Fazio
     Filner
     Ford
     Frank (MA)
     Frost
     Furse
     Gejdenson
     Goode
     Gordon
     Green
     Gutierrez
     Hall (OH)
     Hall (TX)
     Hamilton
     Harman
     Hastings (FL)
     Hefner
     Hilliard
     Hinchey
     Hinojosa
     Holden
     Hooley
     Hoyer
     Jackson (IL)
     Jackson-Lee (TX)
     Jefferson
     John
     Johnson (WI)
     Kanjorski
     Kaptur
     Kennedy (MA)
     Kennedy (RI)
     Kennelly
     Kildee
     Kilpatrick
     Kind (WI)
     Kleczka
     Klink
     Kucinich
     LaFalce
     Lampson
     Lantos
     Levin
     Lewis (GA)
     Lipinski
     Lofgren
     Lowey
     Luther
     Maloney (CT)
     Maloney (NY)
     Manton
     Markey
     Martinez
     Mascara
     McCarthy (MO)
     McCarthy (NY)
     McDermott
     McGovern
     McHale
     McIntyre
     McKinney
     McNulty
     Meehan
     Meek
     Menendez
     Miller (CA)
     Minge
     Moakley
     Mollohan
     Moran (VA)
     Murtha
     Nadler
     Neal
     Oberstar
     Obey
     Olver
     Ortiz
     Owens
     Pallone
     Pascrell
     Pastor
     Payne
     Peterson (MN)
     Pickett
     Pomeroy
     Poshard
     Price (NC)
     Rahall
     Rangel
     Reyes
     Rivers
     Rodriguez
     Roemer
     Rothman
     Roybal-Allard
     Rush
     Sabo
     Sanchez
     Sanders
     Sandlin
     Sawyer
     Schumer
     Serrano
     Sherman
     Sisisky
     Skaggs
     Skelton
     Slaughter
     Smith, Adam
     Snyder
     Spratt
     Stabenow
     Stenholm
     Stokes
     Strickland
     Stupak
     Tanner
     Tauscher
     Taylor (MS)
     Thompson
     Thurman
     Tierney
     Torres
     Towns
     Turner
     Velazquez
     Vento
     Visclosky
     Waters
     Watt (NC)
     Waxman
     Wexler
     Weygand
     Wise
     Woolsey
     Wynn
     Yates

                             NOT VOTING--18

     Combest
     Cubin
     Flake
     Gephardt
     Gonzalez
     Houghton
     Johnson, E. B.
     Matsui
     Millender-McDonald
     Mink
     Pelosi
     Riggs
     Riley
     Schiff
     Scott
     Smith (OR)
     Stark
     White

                              {time}  1147

  Mr. SHAYS changed his vote from ``nay'' to ``yea.''
  So the previous question was ordered.
  The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Miller of Florida). The question is on 
the resolution.
  The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that 
the ayes appeared to have it.


                             Recorded Vote

  Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Speaker, I demand a recorded vote.
  A recorded vote was ordered.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Chair announces that this will be a 15-
minute vote, and, without objection, the vote on the motion to suspend 
the rules and agree to House Resolution 327 will be a 5-minute vote.
  There was no objection.
  The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 219, 
noes 195, not voting 18, as follows:

                             [Roll No. 634]

                               AYES--219

     Aderholt
     Archer
     Armey
     Bachus
     Baker
     Ballenger
     Barr
     Barrett (NE)
     Barton
     Bass
     Bateman
     Bereuter
     Bilbray
     Bilirakis
     Bliley
     Blunt
     Boehlert
     Boehner
     Bonilla
     Bono
     Brady
     Bryant
     Bunning
     Burr
     Burton
     Callahan
     Calvert
     Camp
     Campbell
     Canady
     Cannon
     Castle
     Chabot
     Chambliss
     Chenoweth
     Christensen
     Coble
     Coburn
     Collins
     Cook
     Cooksey
     Cox
     Crane
     Crapo
     Cunningham
     Davis (VA)
     Deal
     DeLay
     Diaz-Balart
     Dickey
     Doolittle
     Duncan
     Dunn
     Ehlers
     Ehrlich
     Emerson
     English
     Ensign
     Everett
     Ewing
     Fawell
     Foley
     Forbes
     Fossella
     Fowler
     Fox
     Franks (NJ)
     Frelinghuysen
     Gallegly
     Ganske
     Gekas
     Gibbons
     Gilchrest
     Gillmor
     Gilman
     Goodlatte
     Goodling
     Goss
     Graham
     Granger
     Greenwood
     Gutknecht
     Hansen
     Hastert
     Hastings (WA)
     Hayworth
     Hefley
     Herger
     Hill
     Hilleary
     Hobson
     Hoekstra
     Horn
     Hostettler
     Hulshof
     Hunter
     Hutchinson
     Hyde
     Inglis
     Istook
     Jenkins
     Johnson (CT)
     Johnson, Sam
     Jones
     Kasich
     Kelly
     Kim
     King (NY)
     Kingston
     Klug
     Knollenberg
     Kolbe
     LaHood
     Largent
     Latham
     LaTourette
     Lazio
     Leach
     Lewis (CA)
     Lewis (KY)
     Linder
     Livingston
     LoBiondo
     Lucas
     Manzullo
     McCollum
     McCrery
     McDade
     McHale
     McHugh
     McInnis
     McIntosh
     McKeon
     Metcalf
     Mica
     Miller (FL)
     Moran (KS)
     Morella
     Myrick
     Nethercutt
     Neumann
     Ney
     Northup
     Norwood
     Nussle
     Oxley
     Packard
     Pappas
     Parker
     Paul
     Paxon
     Pease
     Peterson (PA)
     Petri
     Pickering
     Pitts
     Pombo
     Porter
     Portman
     Pryce (OH)
     Quinn
     Radanovich
     Ramstad
     Redmond
     Regula
     Riggs
     Rogan
     Rogers
     Rohrabacher
     Ros-Lehtinen
     Roukema
     Royce
     Ryun
     Salmon
     Sanford
     Saxton
     Scarborough
     Schaefer, Dan
     Schaffer, Bob
     Sensenbrenner
     Sessions
     Shadegg
     Shaw
     Shays
     Shimkus
     Shuster
     Skeen
     Smith (MI)
     Smith (NJ)
     Smith (TX)
     Smith, Linda
     Snowbarger
     Solomon
     Souder
     Spence
     Stearns
     Stump
     Sununu
     Talent
     Tauzin
     Taylor (NC)
     Thomas
     Thornberry
     Thune
     Tiahrt
     Traficant
     Upton
     Walsh
     Wamp
     Watkins
     Watts (OK)
     Weldon (FL)
     Weldon (PA)
     Weller
     Whitfield
     Wicker
     Wolf
     Young (AK)
     Young (FL)

                               NOES--195

     Abercrombie
     Ackerman
     Allen
     Andrews
     Baesler
     Baldacci
     Barcia
     Barrett (WI)
     Becerra
     Bentsen
     Berman
     Berry
     Bishop
     Blagojevich
     Blumenauer
     Bonior
     Borski
     Boswell
     Boucher
     Boyd
     Brown (CA)
     Brown (FL)
     Brown (OH)
     Cardin
     Carson
     Clay
     Clayton
     Clement
     Clyburn
     Condit
     Conyers
     Costello
     Coyne
     Cramer
     Cummings
     Danner
     Davis (FL)
     Davis (IL)
     DeFazio
     DeGette
     Delahunt
     DeLauro
     Dellums
     Deutsch
     Dicks
     Dingell
     Dixon
     Doggett
     Dooley
     Doyle
     Dreier
     Edwards
     Engel
     Eshoo
     Etheridge
     Evans
     Farr
     Fattah
     Fazio
     Filner
     Ford
     Frank (MA)
     Frost
     Furse
     Gejdenson
     Goode
     Gordon
     Green
     Gutierrez
     Hall (OH)
     Hall (TX)
     Hamilton
     Harman
     Hastings (FL)
     Hefner
     Hilliard
     Hinchey
     Hinojosa
     Holden
     Hooley
     Hoyer
     Jackson (IL)
     Jackson-Lee (TX)
     Jefferson
     John
     Johnson (WI)
     Kanjorski
     Kaptur
     Kennedy (MA)
     Kennedy (RI)
     Kennelly
     Kildee
     Kilpatrick
     Kind (WI)
     Kleczka
     Klink
     Kucinich
     LaFalce
     Lampson
     Lantos
     Levin
     Lewis (GA)
     Lipinski
     Lofgren
     Lowey
     Luther
     Maloney (CT)
     Maloney (NY)
     Manton
     Markey
     Martinez
     Mascara
     McCarthy (MO)
     McCarthy (NY)
     McDermott
     McGovern
     McIntyre
     McKinney
     McNulty
     Meehan
     Meek
     Menendez
     Miller (CA)
     Minge
     Moakley
     Mollohan
     Moran (VA)
     Murtha
     Nadler
     Neal
     Oberstar
     Obey
     Olver
     Ortiz
     Owens
     Pallone
     Pascrell
     Pastor
     Payne
     Pelosi
     Peterson (MN)
     Pickett
     Pomeroy
     Poshard
     Price (NC)
     Rahall
     Rangel
     Reyes
     Rivers
     Rodriguez
     Roemer
     Rothman
     Roybal-Allard
     Rush
     Sabo
     Sanchez
     Sanders
     Sandlin
     Sawyer
     Schumer
     Serrano
     Sherman
     Sisisky
     Skaggs
     Skelton
     Slaughter
     Smith, Adam
     Snyder
     Spratt
     Stabenow
     Stenholm
     Stokes
     Strickland
     Stupak
     Tanner
     Tauscher
     Taylor (MS)
     Thompson
     Thurman
     Tierney
     Torres
     Towns
     Turner
     Velazquez
     Vento
     Visclosky
     Waters
     Watt (NC)
     Waxman
     Wexler
     Weygand
     Wise
     Woolsey
     Wynn
     Yates

                             NOT VOTING--18

     Bartlett
     Buyer
     Combest
     Cubin
     Flake
     Gephardt
     Gonzalez
     Houghton
     Johnson, E. B.
     Matsui
     Millender-McDonald
     Mink
     Riley
     Schiff
     Scott
     Smith (OR)
     Stark
     White

                              {time}  1205

  So the resolution was agreed to.
  The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
  A motion to reconsider was laid on the table.

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