[Congressional Record Volume 143, Number 150 (Friday, October 31, 1997)]
[Senate]
[Pages S11513-S11515]
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FAST TRACK
Mr. DORGAN. Mr. President, a few moments ago the majority leader came
to the floor and filed a cloture motion on what is called the motion to
proceed to the fast-track trade authority legislation that we will
consider beginning next week in the U.S. Senate. I want to make comment
about that, on the issue of fast-track authority.
It seems to me it does not serve well the interests of this country
to try to fit into a small crevice, at the end of the first session of
this Congress with only days left, a debate about international trade.
What is our situation in trade in this country? Well, it is not a
very pretty picture. We have the largest trade deficit in the history
of this country right now. We have huge and growing trade deficits with
Japan. This year, it is expected to total between $60 billion to $65
billion. We have a mushrooming trade deficit with China, this year
expected to reach close to $50 billion. We have an ongoing trade
deficit with Mexico and Canada. We have a flood of subsidized goods
coming into our country that I am convinced violates the antidumping
laws of this country, undercutting our producers and undercutting our
farmers. Yet, nothing is done about it.
We are not winning in world trade. First of all, I think we are
losing because our trade agreements have been negotiated largely as
foreign policy instruments. Secondly, the trade agreements that do
exist, which could be beneficial to this country, are not enforced. You
can point to trade agreement after trade agreement with Japan, for
example, and discover that no matter what the agreement is, it is not
complied with by the Japanese and not enforced by the United States.
The reason I take the time to mention this today is that we face very
significant trade problems in this country. We have a daunting, growing
trade deficit which has contributed now in the aggregate to about $2
trillion in our current accounts deficit. This deficit will be and must
be repaid at some point in the future with a lower standard of living
in this country.
This is the other deficit. We have spent many months and many years
talking about the budget deficit, and have wrestled that budget deficit
to the ground. But this other deficit, the trade deficit, is growing.
Nobody seems to care about that.
The request comes now to Congress for fast track from the President
saying: Let us go out and negotiate new trade agreements. I say let's
solve the trade problems that exist from the old trade agreements
before we rush off to make new trade agreements.
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In recent years, we made a free trade agreement with Canada. What
happened? A flood of Canadian grain has come down our back door,
undercutting our farmers. This is costing North Dakota alone, according
to a recent North Dakota State University study, $220 million a year in
lost revenue. This grain is coming from a state trading enterprise in
Canada that would be illegal in this country.
We had a trade agreement with Mexico. Prior to that, we had a $2
billion trade surplus with Mexico. Now it is apparently a $16 billion
trade deficit with Mexico. We now import more automobiles from Mexico
to the United States than we export to all of the rest of the world. A
recent study by the Economic Policy Institute says that we have lost
395,000 jobs in America as a result of the trade agreement with Mexico
and Canada called NAFTA. This trade of ours is not moving in the right
direction. It is moving in the wrong direction.
We should have a debate about trade policy, but it ought not be a
debate that is tried to be fit into a narrow crevasse at the end of
this session. I will bet as I stand here today that we will see the
majority leader come to the floor in the days ahead trying to restrict
amendments, limit amendments and debate, and shortchange the American
people on the opportunity to have a full, thorough, and thoughtful
debate about this country's trade policy. Just as sure as I am standing
here, I know in a matter of 1, 2, 3, or 4 days, we will hear them on
the floor saying, ``We don't want amendments. We can't have you taking
up that much time.''
In fact, when the fast-track trade authority bill was passed out of
the Senate Finance Committee, I am told it was done in 2 minutes. No
amendments. Just minutes, no amendments, no debate. That is not the way
this body ought to deal with the important subject of international
trade. This is a critically important question to the economic health
of this country. It is a question of who will have the jobs in the
future, which economies will grow in the future, and who will have
opportunity in the years ahead?
I hope that, as we head toward next week and begin discussing this,
we can prevail upon the majority leader and others to understand that
this must be a full debate. I have plenty of amendments I want to
offer. I know other colleagues have some, and I expect and hope we will
have that opportunity in the coming week.
Mr. BYRD. Mr. President, will the Senator yield?
Mr. DORGAN. I will be happy to yield.
Mr. BYRD. The Senator has indicated that the administration wants to
go out and negotiate additional agreements. What is to keep them from
it? They have that authority now. They can go out and negotiate. They
are negotiating now. There is nothing here that anybody is doing to
keep the administration from negotiating additional agreements, is
there?
Mr. DORGAN. The Senator is absolutely correct. This administration
says they have negotiated nearly 200 trade agreements in the last 5
years--200 of them. Well, why didn't they need fast track to do that?
Because those agreements were mostly bilateral trade agreements in
which they weren't trying to change underlying U.S. law. Fast track
gives them the opportunity to go out someplace with some negotiators
and close the door, have a negotiation outside the purview of the
public and propose changing underlying U.S. law. Then fast track says
when you come back here to the U.S. Senate, nobody, no Member of this
body, has an opportunity to have a voice in changing that agreement
that was made behind closed doors.
Mr. BYRD. So the fast track has to do with the operations here within
the Senate and the House.
Mr. DORGAN. The Senator is absolutely correct about that.
Mr. BYRD. The administration has the authority right now to negotiate
additional agreements and is negotiating additional agreements.
Mr. DORGAN. That's correct. The administration talks about an
agreement with Chile. Go negotiate an agreement with Chile. Get an
airplane ticket for 1 o'clock. You can do that. Nothing prevents a
negotiation on trade with Chile--not this fast-track authority or lack
of it. You can negotiate a trade agreement with Chile if you want to.
But, if you want to change underlying law, you have to bring it back
to the Congress and get the permission of Congress to do that. The
Senator makes an important point. There is nothing that prevents trade
negotiations from occurring without fast-track authority. In fact, the
administration says it has now completed over 200 trade agreements in
the last 5 years.
Mr. BYRD. The fast track means that the Senate and the House are
supposed to bind and gag themselves and not talk and not offer
amendments, is that correct?
Mr. DORGAN. That is the procedure. That is correct.
Mr. BYRD. No amendments in this body. That is not what the
Constitution says. The Constitution says that the Senate may offer
amendments to revenue bills, as on other bills, as on other
legislation. So that is where the fast track comes in.
Do we want to bind and gag ourselves and not be able to speak for our
constituents and speak for our country? Do we want to illuminate the
listening public as to what is really going on here? Is that what we
are talking about? Fast track means we will hear nothing, say nothing,
see nothing, right? We will offer no amendments. We can't do that on
behalf of our constituents in the next 5 years; is that right? Am I
right?
Mr. DORGAN. Yes, the Senator is exactly right. Fast-track authority
means that the Congress says to a President, you negotiate a trade
treaty or agreement, bring it back to the Congress, and we agree to
restrict ourselves to be unable to offer any changes or any amendments
of any kind. That is what the Congress is doing.
Mr. BYRD. Right.
Mr. DORGAN. To give you an example of that, they negotiated a trade
agreement with Canada under fast track. I was then serving in the other
body on the House Ways and Means Committee, which has 35 votes. They
brought that trade agreement to the Ways and Means Committee. The vote
was 34-1 to approve it. I was the only one to vote to disapprove it. We
weren't able to offer any amendments. It went to the floor of the
House, and I led the opposition to it. I lost by 20 or 30 votes. No
amendments.
Now, what happened in the last 4 or 5 years with Canada? The deficit
has doubled. We have a flood of this unfairly subsidized grain coming
in, undercutting our producers. Everybody understands it is unfair
trade, and you can't do a thing about it. We have folks that crow about
it from time to time, but they don't lift a finger to do anything about
it.
That is what is wrong with these kinds of procedures. We should have
been able to amend that treaty to make sure that if a trade agreement
with Canada is contemplated, we have the ability to solve a problem if
a problem exists. But they have pulled all the teeth now, so there are
no teeth in this ability to reconcile and deal with problems. Now we
have these trade agreements where the deficits keep ratcheting up. We
have unfair competition for our producers, and jobs are leaving our
country. As I said 395,000 jobs left our country to Mexico and Canada.
It doesn't make any sense for us to tie our hands in this way.
Mr. BYRD. In a manner, this is just a continuation of the siphoning
off of the legislative powers, as we saw in the Line-Item Veto Act. It
was siphoned away. As a matter of fact, we just gave legislative power
to the President. Aside from that subject, that is what is being done
here. We are being asked to give up the people's power under the
Constitution to legislate, to amend, and to debate. In other words, we
are just to buy a pig in a poke and are not even supposed to look
inside the poke --just rubberstamp whatever the administration sends up
here.
Mr. DORGAN. But we know there is a pig in the poke.
Mr. BYRD. There is something in the poke; I am not sure what is in
the poke. But I am not willing to bind and gag myself. I will be forced
to do that, of course; they will do that, but we will be kicking and
screaming.
This administration wants more and more power, and other
administrations have been the same. They have all been the same in
wanting this fast track. But I compliment the Senator. I salute him for
leading this fight. I am opposed
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to fast track, and I will be there when the roll is called. I thank the
Senator.
I ask unanimous consent that the time I have taken of the Senator's
10 minutes not be charged against the Senator.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. DORGAN. Mr. President, the Senator from West Virginia has long
been concerned and interested in international trade. I very much value
and appreciate his support. It is not the case that the Senator from
West Virginia, myself, and others, who believe that fast track is
inappropriate and our trade strategy has not worked believe we should
put walls around our country or restrict international trade. I think
we ought to expand it.
I say this to those folks who talk about fast track: If you want to
be fast about something, do something fast, put on your Speedo trunks
and do something quickly, and start to quickly solve the trade problems
we have. I can cite a dozen of them that undercut American jobs and
American producers, workers, and farmers. If you want to be fast about
something, let's be fast about starting to solve a few of these
problems.
Just demonstrate that you can solve one; it doesn't have to be all of
them. Demonstrate that this country has the nerve and will to stand up
and say to other countries: If our market is open to you, then your
market has to be open to us. We pledge to you that we will be involved
in fair trade with you. We demand and insist that you be involved with
fair trade practices with us. If not, this country has the will and the
nerve to take action.
That is all I ask. If you want to be fast, don't come around here
with fast track, come around with fast action to solve trade problems.
Show me that you can solve one of them just once. Then let's talk about
trade once again.
Mr. DORGAN addressed the Chair.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from North Dakota is recognized.
(The remarks of Mr. Dorgan pertaining to the introduction of S. 1357
are located in today's Record under ``Statements on Introduced Bills
and Joint Resolutions.'')
Mr. KERREY addressed the Chair.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Nebraska.
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