[Congressional Record Volume 143, Number 107 (Friday, July 25, 1997)]
[House]
[Pages H5793-H5798]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]
ENERGY AND WATER DEVELOPMENT APPROPRIATIONS ACT, 1998
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Pease). Pursuant to House Resolution 194
and rule XXIII, the Chair declares the House in the Committee of the
Whole House on the State of the Union for the further consideration of
the bill, H.R. 2203
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In the Committee of the Whole
Accordingly the House resolved itself into the Committee of the Whole
House on the State of the Union for the further consideration of the
bill (H.R. 2203] making appropriations for energy and water development
for the fiscal year ending September 30, 1998, and for other purposes,
with Mr. Oxley in the chair.
The Clerk read the title of the bill.
The CHAIRMAN. When the Committee of the Whole rose on Thursday, July
24, 1997, the bill was open for amendment at any point.
Mr. FAZIO of California. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last
word.
Mr. Chairman, I would like to divide the 5 minutes between myself and
the gentleman from Oregon [Mr. DeFazio] in order to briefly discuss the
amendment that is about to be voted on.
Mr. Chairman, I yield to the gentleman from Oregon [Mr. DeFazio].
Mr. DeFAZIO. Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentleman for yielding to me.
Members will want to listen. This debate occurred late last night. It
is confusing and they need to know what is happening. The gentleman
from California [Mr. Fazio] offered an amendment to the DeFazio-Petri
amendment, which on its face would seem to restrict the expenditure of
funds on the Animas-La Plata project, which a majority in this House
voted last year to not fund.
The Animas-La Plata project, and many of my colleagues have heard of
it, is a proposed $400 million plus water project with a .36 to 1 cost-
benefit ratio. It is purported to provide a settlement to tribes. It
does not. It is purported to do many other things it does not. But it
does spend a lot of money.
What we did, Petri-DeFazio, last night was offered an amendment to
say, no more funds should be expended on this project which has even
been abandoned by its proponents. Its proponents have offered an
alternative. The alternative has not had any hearings. It is not
authorized. It has not been reviewed by the Bureau of Reclamation. That
is progress. They have admitted this $440 million boondoggle should not
go forward.
What the Fazio amendment actually does is require that that project
go forward. If read carefully, it starts out with a limitation, but
what it does is limit funds to be expended for current authorized
purposes, which is the $440 million Animas-La Plata project, which even
the proponents now admit should not go forward. There is almost $9
million unspent at the Bureau of Reclamation, more than enough to go
forward with the planning process, more than enough to develop an
alternative.
Surely it cannot cost more than $8 or $9 million to have a planning
process and develop an alternative to this project that will meet the
obligations to the tribes and be more responsible.
Mr. PETRI. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. FAZIO of California. I yield to the gentleman from Wisconsin.
Mr. PETRI. Mr. Chairman, just to summarize, the issue that we will be
voting on is whether we should continue to spend money on this project
pending an agreement on a new scaled back project, or whether we should
suspend acquisition and just have money for planning until the new
project is agreed on.
If Members do not want to spend money until we have a new project,
vote against Fazio and then vote for the underlying amendment, Petri-
DeFazio. If they want to keep spending money, even though we do not
have agreement and negotiations are going on, then vote for the
substitute.
I urge Members to vote against the substitute and for the underlying
amendment.
Mr. DeFAZIO. Mr. Chairman, if the gentleman will continue to yield,
the gentleman is correct. Anybody who last year voted in the majority
to not appropriate further funds for Animas-La Plata will want to vote
against Fazio, I know this is a little confusing, and then vote for
DeFazio-Petri, Petri-DeFazio.
This obfuscation, the wording of the Fazio amendment is obfuscation.
It starts out with a limitation but it limits nothing. Having the
gentleman from California [Mr. Fazio] be the principal sponsor is even
more confusing, and Members should in principle vote ``no'' on the
Fazio amendment.
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Mr. FAZIO of California. Mr. Chairman, I think this debate will once
and for all, contrary to a rumor circulating on the floor, this
amendment is not an attempt to clarify the pronunciation of the
gentleman's name and mine, but it is the Fazio substitute to the
DeFazio-Petri amendment that we are about to vote on.
I am offering this on behalf of the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr.
McDade] and on behalf of the gentleman from Colorado [Mr. Skaggs] and
the gentleman from Colorado [Mr. McInnis].
This is an attempt to allow a process undergoing success in Colorado,
the so-called Roemer-Shoettler process, to downsize and change the
Animas-La Plata water project. It will assuredly reduce the cost of
this project by over $400 million. But we have ongoing responsibilities
to the Ute and Mountain Ute Indian tribes.
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Those tribal water rights need to be honored. We need to complete
this process. We need to have a bill that can be supported broadly on
this floor.
The gentlemen from Colorado, Mr. McInnis and Mr. Skaggs, would not be
supporting this if they did not believe this process was working to the
benefit of their constituents.
My view is that this amendment, offered by the gentleman from
Wisconsin [Mr. Petri] and the gentleman from Oregon [Mr. DeFazio], will
interfere with that process and not allow us to accept the results of
it and move to completion of an endless legal hassle which has kept
these native Americans from getting their water rights.
Mr. DeLAY. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. FAZIO of California. I yield to the gentleman from Texas.
Mr. DeLAY. Mr. Chairman, I appreciate the gentleman yielding to me,
and I want to clear up the confusion between the two names and ask the
gentleman a question.
If our side of the aisle wanted to help our newest Member from New
Mexico, Mr. Bill Redmond, we should vote for the Fazio substitute to
the DeFazio amendment.
Mr. FAZIO of California. Reclaiming my time, Mr. Chairman, I think
the gentleman from Colorado [Mr. McInnis] would agree with that.
Mr. McINNIS. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. FAZIO of California. I yield to the gentleman from Colorado.
Mr. McINNIS. Mr. Chairman, that is absolutely correct. Vote ``yes''
on the Fazio amendment.
Mr. HEFLEY. Mr. Chairman, I rise in strong opposition to this
amendment.
This project seems to have become the poster child for all those who
wish to show that they're environmentally sensitive though fiscally
prudent. That though they're willing to make tough choices on spending,
they still are moved by the sight of a tree or free-flowing water. In
short, it is offered by people who have never been the Four Corners
area of the Southwest and are not willing to know the history involved
there.
This project is intended to deliver water to the Ute Mountain Ute
Tribe and fulfill a treaty obligation between this country and that
tribe.
Now it had been charged that the A-LP project would deliver more
water to non-Indians than Indians and that this was all a smoke screen.
So the people in that area changed the project. They cut the project's
cost by $400 million. Two-thirds of the water will go to Indians. it
will satisfy tribal water rights claims.
Naturally, A-LP opponents still don't like the project. They say they
want more time to study the new plan but environmentalists have already
criticized it. They can't see why the Indians can't buy water elsewhere
and not build a project at all. Sure, let 'em buy Evian water.
Lt. Gov. Gail Shoettler has been trying to broker a compromise on the
A-LP since January. This amendment would essentially block that from
going forward. Which is what opponents want; they certainly don't want
a settlement. Instead, they can say they've killed a water project.
But lost in all of this will be the Ute Mountain Utes. Their
reservation is located in one of the most arid areas of the country.
Mesa Verde National Park commemorates the ancient inhabitants of that
site. Those inhabitants disappeared, probably because they ran out of
water.
The Utes now live there and, I think, their tribal unemployment rate
is 40 percent. They'd like this water to develop agriculture and
improve their standard of living. So, basically this amendment says
they should do without this water, just like their predecessors. It
says they should be satisfied with tourism and handouts.
This amendment's supporters will say they want the Shoettler
negotiations to go forward. But don't kid yourself; next year, we'll be
back here for another amendment to kill what's left of this project.
And its supporters can pat themselves on the back and say they've saved
money.
But the reality is we'll have broken yet another promise to these
Indians and, I suspect, left ourselves open to a lawsuit somewhere down
the road.
Therefore, I strongly urge your opposition to this amendment.
Mr. FAZIO of California. Mr. Chairman, reclaiming my time, I urge
Members to support the chairman, the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr.
McDade], and myself.
Sequential Votes Postponed in Committee of the Whole
The CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to House Resolution 194, proceedings will now
resume on those amendments on which further proceedings were postponed,
in the following order:
The amendment offered by the gentleman from Wisconsin [Mr. Klug], the
amendment offered by the gentleman from Massachusetts [Mr. Markey], and
the amendment offered by the gentleman from California [Mr. Fazio] as a
substitute for the amendment offered by the gentleman from Wisconsin
[Mr. Petri].
The Chair will reduce to 5 minutes the time for any electronic vote
after the first vote in this series.
Amendment Offered by Mr. Klug
The CHAIRMAN. The unfinished business is the demand for a recorded
vote on the amendment offered by the gentleman from Wisconsin [Mr.
Klug] on which further proceedings were postponed and on which the noes
prevailed by voice vote.
The Clerk will designate the amendment.
The text of the amendment is as follows:
Amendment offered by Mr. Klug:
Page 29, line 20, after the dollar amount, insert
``(reduced by $90,000,000)''.
Recorded Vote
The CHAIRMAN. A recorded vote has been demanded.
A recorded vote was ordered.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 97,
noes 328, not voting 9, as follows:
[Roll No. 326]
AYES--97
Andrews
Archer
Armey
Barcia
Bass
Bereuter
Blagojevich
Camp
Campbell
Cannon
Castle
Chabot
Christensen
Coble
Coburn
Condit
Cox
Crane
Cunningham
Davis (FL)
DeGette
Delahunt
DeLay
Doggett
Dunn
Ehlers
Ehrlich
Ensign
Foley
Furse
Ganske
Goss
Hall (TX)
Harman
Hayworth
Hefley
Hill
Hooley
Hostettler
Hulshof
Inglis
Istook
Johnson, Sam
Kasich
Kennedy (MA)
Kind (WI)
Kingston
Kleczka
Klug
Largent
Luther
Maloney (CT)
Manzullo
Markey
McCarthy (MO)
McCollum
McIntosh
McKeon
Meehan
Miller (FL)
Minge
Morella
Neumann
Nussle
Oxley
Pappas
Paul
Paxon
Peterson (MN)
Porter
Ramstad
Rohrabacher
Roukema
Royce
Ryun
Salmon
Sanford
Schaffer, Bob
Sensenbrenner
Sessions
Shadegg
Shaw
Shays
Sherman
Shimkus
Skaggs
Smith (MI)
Smith, Linda
Souder
Stearns
Sununu
Talent
Thune
Tiahrt
Upton
White
Wolf
NOES--328
Abercrombie
Ackerman
Aderholt
Allen
Bachus
Baesler
Baker
Baldacci
Ballenger
Barr
Barrett (NE)
Barrett (WI)
Bartlett
Barton
Bateman
Becerra
Bentsen
Berman
Berry
Bilbray
Bilirakis
Bishop
Bliley
Blunt
Boehlert
Boehner
Bonilla
Bonior
Bono
Borski
Boswell
Boucher
Boyd
Brady
Brown (CA)
Brown (FL)
Brown (OH)
Bryant
Bunning
Burr
Burton
Buyer
Callahan
Calvert
Canady
Capps
Cardin
Carson
Chambliss
Chenoweth
Clay
Clayton
Clement
Clyburn
Collins
Combest
Conyers
Cook
Cooksey
Costello
Coyne
Cramer
Crapo
Cubin
Cummings
Danner
Davis (IL)
Davis (VA)
Deal
DeFazio
DeLauro
Dellums
Deutsch
Diaz-Balart
Dickey
Dicks
Dingell
Dixon
Dooley
Doolittle
Doyle
Dreier
Duncan
Edwards
Emerson
Engel
English
Eshoo
Etheridge
Evans
Everett
Ewing
Farr
Fattah
Fawell
Fazio
Filner
Flake
Foglietta
Forbes
Ford
Fowler
Fox
Frank (MA)
Franks (NJ)
Frelinghuysen
Frost
Gallegly
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Gejdenson
Gekas
Gephardt
Gibbons
Gilchrest
Gillmor
Gilman
Goode
Goodlatte
Goodling
Gordon
Graham
Granger
Green
Greenwood
Gutierrez
Gutknecht
Hall (OH)
Hamilton
Hansen
Hastert
Hastings (FL)
Hastings (WA)
Hefner
Herger
Hilleary
Hilliard
Hinchey
Hinojosa
Hobson
Hoekstra
Holden
Horn
Houghton
Hoyer
Hunter
Hutchinson
Hyde
Jackson (IL)
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Jefferson
Jenkins
John
Johnson (CT)
Johnson (WI)
Johnson, E.B.
Jones
Kanjorski
Kaptur
Kelly
Kennedy (RI)
Kennelly
Kildee
Kilpatrick
Kim
King (NY)
Klink
Knollenberg
Kolbe
Kucinich
LaFalce
LaHood
Lampson
Lantos
Latham
LaTourette
Lazio
Leach
Levin
Lewis (CA)
Lewis (GA)
Lewis (KY)
Linder
Lipinski
Livingston
LoBiondo
Lofgren
Lowey
Lucas
Maloney (NY)
Manton
Mascara
Matsui
McCarthy (NY)
McCrery
McDade
McDermott
McGovern
McHale
McHugh
McInnis
McIntyre
McKinney
McNulty
Meek
Menendez
Metcalf
Mica
Millender-McDonald
Mink
Moakley
Mollohan
Moran (KS)
Moran (VA)
Murtha
Myrick
Nadler
Neal
Nethercutt
Ney
Northup
Norwood
Oberstar
Obey
Olver
Ortiz
Owens
Packard
Pallone
Parker
Pascrell
Pastor
Payne
Pease
Pelosi
Peterson (PA)
Petri
Pickering
Pickett
Pitts
Pombo
Pomeroy
Portman
Poshard
Price (NC)
Pryce (OH)
Quinn
Radanovich
Rahall
Rangel
Redmond
Regula
Reyes
Riggs
Riley
Rivers
Rodriguez
Roemer
Rogan
Rogers
Ros-Lehtinen
Rothman
Roybal-Allard
Rush
Sabo
Sanchez
Sanders
Sandlin
Sawyer
Saxton
Scarborough
Schaefer, Dan
Schumer
Scott
Serrano
Shuster
Sisisky
Skeen
Skelton
Slaughter
Smith (OR)
Smith (TX)
Smith, Adam
Snowbarger
Snyder
Solomon
Spence
Spratt
Stabenow
Stenholm
Stokes
Strickland
Stump
Stupak
Tanner
Tauscher
Tauzin
Taylor (MS)
Taylor (NC)
Thomas
Thompson
Thornberry
Thurman
Tierney
Torres
Towns
Traficant
Turner
Velazquez
Vento
Visclosky
Walsh
Wamp
Waters
Watkins
Watt (NC)
Watts (OK)
Waxman
Weldon (FL)
Weldon (PA)
Weller
Wexler
Weygand
Whitfield
Wicker
Wise
Woolsey
Wynn
Yates
Young (FL)
NOT VOTING--9
Blumenauer
Gonzalez
Martinez
Miller (CA)
Molinari
Schiff
Smith (NJ)
Stark
Young (AK)
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Messrs. NETHERCUTT, BALDACCI, HOEKSTRA, and OLVER changed their vote
from ``aye'' to ``no.''
Messrs. WOLF, SHERMAN, and MARKEY changed their vote from ``no'' to
``aye.''
So the amendment was rejected.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
Announcement by the Chairman
The CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to House Resolution 194, the Chair announces
that he will reduce to a minimum of 5 minutes the period within which a
vote by electronic device will be taken on each additional amendment on
which the Chair has postponed further proceedings.
Amendment Offered by Mr. Markey
The CHAIRMAN. The unfinished business is the demand for a recorded
vote on the amendment offered by the gentleman from Massachusetts [Mr.
Markey] on which further proceedings were postponed and on which the
noes prevailed by voice vote.
The Clerk will designate the amendment.
The text of the amendment is as follows:
Amendment offered by Mr. Markey:
Insert at the end before the short title the following:
Sec. 502. (a) Limitation.--No funds shall be made available
under this Act for--
(1) nuclear technology research and development programs to
continue the study of treating spent nuclear fuel using
electrometallurgical technology; or
(2) the demonstration of the electrometallurgical
technology at the Fuel Conditioning Facility.
(b) Reduction.--Under the heading ``Department of Energy-
Energy Programs-Energy Supply'' insert after the dollar
figure the following ``(reduced by $33,000,000)'' and under
the heading ``Department of Energy-Atomic Energy Defense
Activities-Other Defense Activities'' insert after the dollar
figure the following: ``(reduced by $12,000,000)''.
Recorded Vote
The CHAIRMAN. A recorded vote has been demanded.
A recorded vote was ordered.
The CHAIRMAN. This will be a 5-minute vote.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 134,
noes 290, not voting 10, as follows:
[Roll No. 327]
AYES--134
Abercrombie
Ackerman
Allen
Andrews
Baldacci
Barrett (WI)
Bass
Becerra
Blunt
Boehlert
Bonior
Borski
Boswell
Brown (OH)
Capps
Cardin
Castle
Chabot
Coble
Condit
Conyers
Coyne
Cunningham
Davis (FL)
DeFazio
DeGette
Delahunt
DeLauro
Dellums
Deutsch
Doggett
Duncan
Engel
Eshoo
Etheridge
Evans
Farr
Fattah
Filner
Foglietta
Foley
Ford
Frank (MA)
Franks (NJ)
Furse
Ganske
Gejdenson
Gephardt
Hall (OH)
Hefner
Hinchey
Hooley
Kasich
Kennedy (MA)
Kennedy (RI)
Kennelly
Kildee
Kilpatrick
Kind (WI)
Kingston
Kleczka
Klug
Kucinich
LaFalce
Levin
Lewis (GA)
LoBiondo
Lowey
Luther
Maloney (CT)
Maloney (NY)
Markey
Matsui
McCarthy (MO)
McCarthy (NY)
McDermott
McGovern
McKinney
McNulty
Meehan
Menendez
Miller (FL)
Minge
Mink
Moakley
Morella
Nadler
Neal
Obey
Olver
Owens
Pallone
Pascrell
Paul
Payne
Pelosi
Peterson (MN)
Pomeroy
Portman
Price (NC)
Rahall
Ramstad
Rangel
Rivers
Roemer
Rothman
Roybal-Allard
Royce
Sabo
Sanchez
Sanders
Sanford
Scarborough
Schumer
Sensenbrenner
Serrano
Shays
Sherman
Skaggs
Smith, Adam
Snyder
Spratt
Stabenow
Stokes
Strickland
Sununu
Tierney
Velazquez
Vento
Walsh
Waxman
Wexler
Weygand
Woolsey
NOES--290
Aderholt
Archer
Armey
Bachus
Baesler
Baker
Ballenger
Barcia
Barr
Barrett (NE)
Bartlett
Barton
Bateman
Bentsen
Bereuter
Berman
Berry
Bilbray
Bilirakis
Bishop
Blagojevich
Bliley
Boehner
Bonilla
Bono
Boucher
Boyd
Brady
Brown (CA)
Brown (FL)
Bryant
Bunning
Burr
Burton
Buyer
Callahan
Calvert
Camp
Campbell
Canady
Cannon
Carson
Chambliss
Chenoweth
Christensen
Clay
Clayton
Clement
Clyburn
Coburn
Collins
Combest
Cook
Cooksey
Costello
Cox
Cramer
Crane
Crapo
Cubin
Cummings
Danner
Davis (IL)
Davis (VA)
Deal
DeLay
Diaz-Balart
Dickey
Dicks
Dingell
Dixon
Dooley
Doolittle
Doyle
Dreier
Dunn
Edwards
Ehlers
Ehrlich
Emerson
English
Ensign
Everett
Ewing
Fawell
Fazio
Flake
Forbes
Fowler
Fox
Frelinghuysen
Frost
Gallegly
Gekas
Gibbons
Gilchrest
Gillmor
Gilman
Goode
Goodlatte
Goodling
Gordon
Goss
Graham
Granger
Green
Greenwood
Gutierrez
Gutknecht
Hall (TX)
Hamilton
Hansen
Harman
Hastert
Hastings (FL)
Hastings (WA)
Hayworth
Hefley
Herger
Hill
Hilleary
Hilliard
Hinojosa
Hobson
Hoekstra
Holden
Horn
Hostettler
Houghton
Hoyer
Hulshof
Hunter
Hutchinson
Hyde
Inglis
Istook
Jackson (IL)
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Jefferson
Jenkins
John
Johnson (CT)
Johnson (WI)
Johnson, E. B.
Johnson, Sam
Jones
Kanjorski
Kelly
Kim
King (NY)
Klink
Knollenberg
Kolbe
LaHood
Lampson
Lantos
Largent
Latham
LaTourette
Lazio
Leach
Lewis (CA)
Lewis (KY)
Linder
Lipinski
Livingston
Lofgren
Lucas
Manton
Manzullo
Mascara
McCollum
McCrery
McDade
McHale
McHugh
McInnis
McIntosh
McIntyre
McKeon
Meek
Metcalf
Mica
Millender-McDonald
Mollohan
Moran (KS)
Moran (VA)
Murtha
Myrick
Nethercutt
Neumann
Ney
Northup
Norwood
Nussle
Oberstar
Ortiz
Oxley
Packard
Pappas
Parker
Pastor
Paxon
Pease
Peterson (PA)
Petri
Pickering
Pickett
Pitts
Pombo
Porter
Poshard
Pryce (OH)
Quinn
Radanovich
Redmond
Regula
Reyes
Riggs
Riley
Rodriguez
Rogan
Rogers
Rohrabacher
Ros-Lehtinen
Roukema
Rush
Ryun
Salmon
Sandlin
Sawyer
Saxton
Schaefer, Dan
Schaffer, Bob
Scott
Sessions
Shadegg
Shaw
Shimkus
Shuster
Sisisky
Skeen
Skelton
Slaughter
Smith (NJ)
Smith (OR)
Smith (TX)
Smith, Linda
Snowbarger
Solomon
Souder
Spence
Stearns
Stenholm
Stump
Stupak
Talent
Tanner
Tauscher
Tauzin
Taylor (MS)
Taylor (NC)
Thomas
Thompson
Thornberry
Thune
Thurman
Tiahrt
Torres
Towns
Traficant
Turner
Upton
Visclosky
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Wamp
Waters
Watkins
Watt (NC)
Watts (OK)
Weldon (FL)
Weldon (PA)
Weller
White
Whitfield
Wicker
Wise
Wolf
Wynn
Yates
Young (FL)
NOT VOTING--10
Blumenauer
Gonzalez
Kaptur
Martinez
Miller (CA)
Molinari
Schiff
Smith (MI)
Stark
Young (AK)
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Messrs. CUMMINGS, NEUMANN, FORBES, and MORAN of Virginia changed
their vote from ``aye'' to ``no.''
Mr. MATSUI, Mr. WALSH and Ms. STABENOW changed their vote from ``no''
to ``aye.''
So the amendment was rejected.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
Amendment Offered by Mr. Fazio of California as a Substitute for the
Amendment Offered by Mr. Petri
The CHAIRMAN. The unfinished business is the demand for a recorded
vote on the amendment offered by the gentleman from California [Mr.
Fazio] as a substitute for the amendment offered by the gentleman from
Wisconsin [Mr. Petri] on which further proceedings were postponed and
on which the ayes prevailed by voice vote.
The Clerk will designate the amendment.
The text of the amendment is as follows:
Amendment offered by Mr. Fazio of California as a
substitute for the amendment offered by Mr. Petri:
At the end of the bill, insert after the last section
(preceding the short title the following new section:
None of the funds made available in this act to pay the
salary of any officer or employee of the Department of
Interior may be used for the Animas-La Plata Project, in
Colorado and New Mexico, except for (1) activities required
to comply with the applicable provisions of current law; and
(2) continuation of activities pursuant to the Colorado Ute
Indian Water Rights settlement Act of 1988 (Pub L. 100-585).
Recorded Vote
The CHAIRMAN. A recorded vote has been demanded.
A recorded vote was ordered.
The CHAIRMAN. This is a 5-minute vote.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 223,
noes 201, not voting 10, as follows:
[Roll No. 328]
AYES--223
Abercrombie
Ackerman
Aderholt
Archer
Armey
Baesler
Baker
Baldacci
Ballenger
Barr
Barrett (NE)
Bartlett
Barton
Bateman
Bereuter
Bilbray
Bilirakis
Bishop
Bliley
Blunt
Boehner
Bonilla
Bono
Borski
Boyd
Brady
Bryant
Bunning
Burr
Burton
Callahan
Calvert
Camp
Canady
Cannon
Carson
Chenoweth
Christensen
Combest
Conyers
Cooksey
Cox
Crane
Crapo
Cubin
Cunningham
Davis (VA)
DeLay
Diaz-Balart
Dickey
Dicks
Dooley
Doolittle
Doyle
Dreier
Dunn
Edwards
Emerson
English
Ensign
Everett
Ewing
Fattah
Fawell
Fazio
Flake
Foglietta
Ford
Fowler
Frelinghuysen
Frost
Furse
Gallegly
Gekas
Gibbons
Gillmor
Goodling
Gordon
Goss
Graham
Granger
Green
Gutknecht
Hall (TX)
Hamilton
Hansen
Harman
Hastert
Hastings (WA)
Hayworth
Hefley
Hefner
Herger
Hill
Hilleary
Hilliard
Hinojosa
Holden
Hostettler
Hoyer
Hunter
Hyde
Istook
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Jefferson
Jenkins
John
Johnson, E. B.
Johnson, Sam
Jones
Kanjorski
Kennedy (RI)
Kildee
Kilpatrick
King (NY)
Kingston
Klink
Knollenberg
Kolbe
LaFalce
LaHood
Lampson
Latham
LaTourette
Lewis (CA)
Lewis (KY)
Linder
Livingston
Lucas
Mascara
McCrery
McDade
McHale
McHugh
McInnis
McIntosh
McIntyre
McKeon
Mica
Mink
Moakley
Mollohan
Moran (KS)
Moran (VA)
Murtha
Myrick
Nethercutt
Nussle
Ortiz
Oxley
Packard
Parker
Pastor
Paxon
Pease
Peterson (PA)
Pickering
Pickett
Pitts
Pombo
Pomeroy
Porter
Pryce (OH)
Quinn
Radanovich
Rahall
Redmond
Regula
Reyes
Riley
Rodriguez
Rogan
Rogers
Rohrabacher
Ros-Lehtinen
Roukema
Sandlin
Sawyer
Scarborough
Schaefer, Dan
Schaffer, Bob
Sessions
Shadegg
Shaw
Shimkus
Shuster
Sisisky
Skaggs
Skeen
Skelton
Smith (OR)
Smith (TX)
Smith, Linda
Snowbarger
Snyder
Solomon
Spence
Spratt
Stenholm
Stump
Talent
Tauzin
Taylor (NC)
Thomas
Thornberry
Thune
Thurman
Tiahrt
Traficant
Turner
Visclosky
Walsh
Wamp
Watkins
Watts (OK)
Weldon (FL)
Weller
White
Wicker
Wise
Wolf
Wynn
Young (FL)
NOES--201
Allen
Andrews
Bachus
Barcia
Barrett (WI)
Bass
Becerra
Bentsen
Berman
Berry
Blagojevich
Boehlert
Bonior
Boswell
Boucher
Brown (CA)
Brown (FL)
Brown (OH)
Campbell
Capps
Cardin
Castle
Chabot
Chambliss
Clay
Clayton
Clement
Clyburn
Coble
Coburn
Collins
Condit
Cook
Costello
Coyne
Cramer
Cummings
Danner
Davis (FL)
Davis (IL)
Deal
DeFazio
DeGette
Delahunt
DeLauro
Dellums
Deutsch
Dingell
Dixon
Doggett
Duncan
Ehlers
Ehrlich
Engel
Eshoo
Etheridge
Evans
Farr
Filner
Foley
Forbes
Fox
Frank (MA)
Franks (NJ)
Ganske
Gejdenson
Gephardt
Gilchrest
Gilman
Goode
Goodlatte
Greenwood
Gutierrez
Hall (OH)
Hastings (FL)
Hinchey
Hobson
Hoekstra
Hooley
Horn
Houghton
Hulshof
Hutchinson
Inglis
Jackson (IL)
Johnson (CT)
Johnson (WI)
Kasich
Kelly
Kennedy (MA)
Kennelly
Kim
Kind (WI)
Kleczka
Klug
Kucinich
Lantos
Largent
Lazio
Leach
Levin
Lewis (GA)
Lipinski
LoBiondo
Lofgren
Lowey
Luther
Maloney (CT)
Maloney (NY)
Manton
Manzullo
Markey
Matsui
McCarthy (MO)
McCarthy (NY)
McCollum
McDermott
McGovern
McKinney
McNulty
Meehan
Meek
Menendez
Metcalf
Millender-McDonald
Miller (FL)
Minge
Morella
Nadler
Neal
Neumann
Ney
Northup
Norwood
Oberstar
Obey
Olver
Owens
Pallone
Pappas
Pascrell
Paul
Payne
Pelosi
Peterson (MN)
Petri
Portman
Poshard
Price (NC)
Ramstad
Rangel
Riggs
Rivers
Roemer
Rothman
Roybal-Allard
Royce
Rush
Ryun
Sabo
Salmon
Sanchez
Sanders
Sanford
Saxton
Schumer
Scott
Sensenbrenner
Serrano
Shays
Sherman
Slaughter
Smith (MI)
Smith (NJ)
Smith, Adam
Souder
Stabenow
Stearns
Stokes
Strickland
Stupak
Sununu
Tanner
Tauscher
Taylor (MS)
Thompson
Tierney
Torres
Towns
Upton
Velazquez
Vento
Waters
Watt (NC)
Waxman
Weldon (PA)
Wexler
Weygand
Whitfield
Woolsey
Yates
NOT VOTING--10
Blumenauer
Buyer
Gonzalez
Kaptur
Martinez
Miller (CA)
Molinari
Schiff
Stark
Young (AK)
{time} 1153
Messrs. SMITH of Michigan, CLYBURN, FOX of Pennsylvania, and SMITH of
New Jersey changed their vote from ``aye'' to ``no.''
Mr. JOHN changed his vote from ``no'' to ``aye.''
So the amendment offered as a substitute for the amendment was agreed
to.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
The CHAIRMAN. The question is on the amendment offered by the
gentleman from Wisconsin [Mr. Petri], as amended.
The amendment, as amended, was agreed to.
Mrs. ROUKEMA. Mr. Chairman, I rise in strong support of this
important legislation and want to take this opportunity to thank
Chairman McDade for his continued support for projects like the Ramapo
River at Oakland Flood project and the tritium production program that
are so important to the residents of New Jersey.
As a long-time supporter of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers' Oakland
Flood Protection Project, I am committed to seeing that this project
becomes a reality. Flooding along the Ramapo River has occurred 15
times in the past 24 years. The 330 families that live along the 3.3-
mile stretch cannot continue to endure the repeated hardship and
personal turmoil that the flood waters bring.
The principal problems along the Ramapo River are flooding caused by
the backwater effect produced by the Pompton Lake Dam, the hydraulic
constrictions produced by bridges crossing the river, and insufficient
channel capacity.
The project is now ready to move into the construction stage. The
overall cost of the project through construction is estimated at $12.2
million. This cost is shared by the Federal Government, 75 percent and
the State, 25 percent.
Last year, $250,000 was included in the fiscal year 1997
appropriations bill to complete the planning phase of this project. But
we now face the battle of getting past a project on paper and putting
shovels into the ground.
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The Army Corps of Engineers has indicated that it could use $3.5
million in fiscal year 1998. This capability would allow construction
to advance by one year and substantially complete the first piece of
the project. The completion of the first piece, the channel widening,
would provide immediate flood reduction benefits to Oakland.
Flood protection is about more than money. The emotional price of
being forced from your home by raging flood waters and returning only
to find your most prized possessions ruined with mud and water goes far
beyond the economic price.
I am acutely aware of how difficult it is to craft a balanced fair
bill that meets not only the national needs but addresses various
parochial demands. That is why I am so grateful for the $1.5 million
included in the bill for my Oakland residents.
Finally, as we work with the other body to prepare a final bill for
the President's signature, I would ask the chairman to support efforts
to secure additional funds for this project. We must take the necessary
steps to complete this project before the residents in Oakland are
forced to endure yet another flood.
Mrs. MORELLA. Mr. Chairman, although I am very sensitive to the
economic needs of our neighbors who live in the Appalachian corridor of
Maryland, West Virginia, Virginia, and adjacent States, I support the
Klug amendment to delete the money, $90 million, specifically targeted
for highway construction in the Appalachian corridor. This program is
duplicative, and it is more appropriately addressed when the House
considers ISTEA funding.
In addition, there is convincing evidence that a highway corridor
could have very severe environmental consequences to the region. A 100-
mile corridor through the sparsely populated mountains in West Virginia
would cross 41 streams, go through two national forests, impact two
Civil War battlefields, and take some of the State's best farmland for
sprawl development. This is not a wise investment.
I thank Congressman Klug for offering this amendment and urge my
colleagues to join me in support of it.
Mr. SABO. Mr. Chairman, I would like to bring to the attention of the
House a matter that was not included in the energy and water
appropriations bill, but which I believe deserves further
consideration, perhaps in conference.
Our Nation's electrical transmission grid is strained to the point
where blackouts and brownouts are occurring at critical times. This is
a matter of life and death for older people and those in poor health,
whose life can be threatened when faced with high temperatures and a
lack of air-conditioning.
There is a potential solution to this transmission problem. A
consortium of utilities and high technology companies have developed
new transmission cables that can carry twice the electricity of today's
cables, thereby alleviating the overload problem without having to
install new rights-of-ways. The technology is called aluminum matrix
composites, and I hope that the final bill will give the Department of
Energy enough flexibility to consider funding this project.
Mr. OLVER. Mr. Chairman, I rise in support of the bill.
I congratulate the chairman and ranking member and their staffs for
producing a solid bipartisan bill.
I would also like to thank the chairman and ranking member for the
report language directing FERC [Federal Energy Regulatory Commission]
to give priority to the processing of hydroelectric licenses for which
there are compelling applications.
This language is important to the city of Holyoke to prevent any
delay in FERC's review of competing dam license applications. Such a
delay may place an undue burden on the city of Holyoke.
I would also ask that the chairman hold the House language in
conference, as it is more precise then the language in the Senate bill.
Again, I thank the chairman for his assistance and I look forward to
supporting the bill.
The CHAIRMAN. If there are no further amendments, under the rule, the
Committee rises.
Accordingly, the Committee rose; and the Speaker pro tempore (Mr.
LaTourette) having assumed the chair, Mr. Oxley, Chairman of the
Committee of the Whole House on the State of the Union, reported that
that Committee, having had under consideration the bill (H.R. 2203)
making appropriations for energy and water development for the fiscal
year ending September 30, 1998, and for other purposes, pursuant to
House Resolution 194, he reported the bill back to the House with
sundry amendments adopted by the Committee of the Whole.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under the rule, the previous question is
ordered.
Is a separate vote demanded on any amendment? If not, the Chair will
put them en gros.
The amendments were agreed to.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the engrossment and third
reading of the bill.
The bill was ordered to be engrossed and read a third time, and was
read the third time.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the passage of the bill.
Pursuant to clause 7 of rule XV, the yeas and nays are ordered.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--yeas 418,
nays 7, not voting 9, as follows:
[Roll No. 329]
YEAS--418
Abercrombie
Ackerman
Aderholt
Allen
Andrews
Archer
Armey
Bachus
Baesler
Baker
Baldacci
Ballenger
Barcia
Barr
Barrett (NE)
Barrett (WI)
Bartlett
Barton
Bass
Bateman
Becerra
Bentsen
Bereuter
Berman
Berry
Bilbray
Bilirakis
Bishop
Blagojevich
Bliley
Blunt
Boehlert
Boehner
Bonilla
Bonior
Bono
Borski
Boswell
Boucher
Boyd
Brady
Brown (CA)
Brown (FL)
Brown (OH)
Bryant
Bunning
Burr
Burton
Buyer
Callahan
Calvert
Camp
Campbell
Canady
Cannon
Capps
Cardin
Carson
Castle
Chabot
Chambliss
Chenoweth
Christensen
Clay
Clayton
Clement
Clyburn
Coble
Coburn
Collins
Combest
Condit
Conyers
Cook
Cooksey
Costello
Cox
Coyne
Cramer
Crane
Crapo
Cubin
Cummings
Cunningham
Danner
Davis (FL)
Davis (IL)
Davis (VA)
Deal
DeFazio
DeGette
Delahunt
DeLauro
DeLay
Dellums
Deutsch
Diaz-Balart
Dickey
Dicks
Dingell
Dixon
Doggett
Dooley
Doolittle
Doyle
Dreier
Duncan
Dunn
Edwards
Ehlers
Ehrlich
Emerson
Engel
English
Eshoo
Etheridge
Evans
Everett
Ewing
Farr
Fattah
Fawell
Fazio
Filner
Flake
Foglietta
Foley
Forbes
Ford
Fowler
Fox
Frank (MA)
Franks (NJ)
Frelinghuysen
Frost
Furse
Gallegly
Ganske
Gejdenson
Gekas
Gephardt
Gilchrest
Gillmor
Gilman
Goode
Goodlatte
Goodling
Gordon
Goss
Graham
Granger
Green
Greenwood
Gutierrez
Gutknecht
Hall (OH)
Hall (TX)
Hamilton
Hansen
Harman
Hastert
Hastings (FL)
Hastings (WA)
Hayworth
Hefley
Hefner
Herger
Hill
Hilleary
Hilliard
Hinchey
Hinojosa
Hobson
Hoekstra
Holden
Hooley
Horn
Hostettler
Houghton
Hoyer
Hulshof
Hunter
Hutchinson
Hyde
Inglis
Istook
Jackson (IL)
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Jefferson
Jenkins
John
Johnson (CT)
Johnson (WI)
Johnson, E. B.
Johnson, Sam
Jones
Kanjorski
Kaptur
Kasich
Kelly
Kennedy (MA)
Kennedy (RI)
Kennelly
Kildee
Kilpatrick
Kim
Kind (WI)
King (NY)
Kingston
Kleczka
Klink
Knollenberg
Kolbe
Kucinich
LaFalce
LaHood
Lampson
Lantos
Largent
Latham
LaTourette
Lazio
Leach
Levin
Lewis (CA)
Lewis (GA)
Lewis (KY)
Linder
Lipinski
Livingston
LoBiondo
Lofgren
Lowey
Lucas
Luther
Maloney (CT)
Maloney (NY)
Manton
Manzullo
Markey
Mascara
Matsui
McCarthy (MO)
McCarthy (NY)
McCollum
McCrery
McDade
McDermott
McGovern
McHale
McHugh
McInnis
McIntosh
McIntyre
McKeon
McKinney
McNulty
Meehan
Menendez
Metcalf
Mica
Millender-McDonald
Miller (FL)
Minge
Mink
Moakley
Mollohan
Moran (KS)
Moran (VA)
Morella
Murtha
Myrick
Nadler
Neal
Nethercutt
Neumann
Ney
Northup
Norwood
Nussle
Oberstar
Obey
Olver
Ortiz
Owens
Oxley
Packard
Pallone
Pappas
Parker
Pascrell
Pastor
Paxon
Payne
Pease
Pelosi
Peterson (MN)
Peterson (PA)
Petri
Pickering
Pickett
Pitts
Pombo
Pomeroy
Porter
Portman
Poshard
Price (NC)
Pryce (OH)
Quinn
Radanovich
Rahall
Ramstad
Rangel
Redmond
Regula
Reyes
Riggs
Riley
Rivers
Rodriguez
Roemer
Rogan
Rogers
Rohrabacher
Ros-Lehtinen
Rothman
Roukema
Roybal-Allard
Rush
Ryun
Sabo
Salmon
Sanchez
Sanders
Sandlin
Sanford
Sawyer
Saxton
Scarborough
Schaefer, Dan
Schaffer, Bob
Schumer
Scott
Serrano
Sessions
Shadegg
Shaw
Shays
Sherman
Shimkus
Shuster
Sisisky
Skaggs
Skeen
Skelton
Slaughter
Smith (NJ)
Smith (OR)
Smith (TX)
Smith, Adam
Smith, Linda
Snowbarger
Snyder
Solomon
Souder
Spence
Spratt
Stabenow
Stearns
Stenholm
Stokes
Strickland
Stump
Stupak
Sununu
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Talent
Tanner
Tauscher
Tauzin
Taylor (MS)
Taylor (NC)
Thomas
Thompson
Thornberry
Thune
Thurman
Tiahrt
Tierney
Torres
Towns
Traficant
Turner
Upton
Velazquez
Vento
Visclosky
Walsh
Wamp
Waters
Watkins
Watt (NC)
Watts (OK)
Waxman
Weldon (FL)
Weldon (PA)
Weller
Wexler
Weygand
White
Whitfield
Wicker
Wise
Wolf
Woolsey
Wynn
Yates
Young (FL)
NAYS--7
Ensign
Gibbons
Klug
Paul
Royce
Sensenbrenner
Smith (MI)
NOT VOTING--9
Blumenauer
Gonzalez
Martinez
Meek
Miller (CA)
Molinari
Schiff
Stark
Young (AK)
{time} 1213
So the bill was passed.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
A motion to reconsider was laid on the table.
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