[Congressional Record Volume 143, Number 91 (Wednesday, June 25, 1997)]
[House]
[Pages H4381-H4384]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]
NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT FOR FISCAL YEAR 1998
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to House Resolution 169 and rule
XXIII, the Chair declares the House in the Committee of the Whole House
on the State of the Union for the further consideration of the bill,
H.R. 1119.
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In the Committee of the Whole
Accordingly, the House resolved itself into the Committee of the
Whole House on the State of the Union for the further consideration of
the bill (H.R. 1119) to authorize appropriations for fiscal years 1998
and 1999 for military personnel strengths for fiscal years 1998 and
1999, and for other purposes, with Mr. Young of Florida in the chair.
The Clerk read the title of the bill.
The CHAIRMAN. When the Committee of the Whole rose on Tuesday, June
24, 1997, amendment No. 8 printed in part 1 of House Report 105-137 by
the gentleman from Indiana [Mr. Buyer] had been disposed of.
There being no further amendments in order, the question is on the
committee amendment in the nature of a substitute, as amended.
The committee amendment in the nature of a substitute, as amended,
was agreed to.
Mr. FRELINGHUYSEN. Mr. Chairman, I want to take this opportunity to
commend Chairman Spence and the other members of the National Security
Committee for their efforts in drafting a defense bill that funds our
national security priorities with limited resources. It is a balancing
act that has become even more difficult as a result of the present
administration that asks our men and women in uniform to do more around
the world while subsequently giving them less resources. In fact,
today, our troops are stationed in nearly 100 nations and the world,
more than ever before. Yet, we are spending three time less on defense
as a percentage of our national economy than when John F. Kennedy was
President in 1963.
The defense bill Chairman Spence has crafted uses the resources
available to focus on improving the quality of life for our troops and
their families. The bill improves force readiness and modernizes aging
equipment. Furthermore, Chairman Weldon and the members of the Research
and Development Subcommittee have provided resources to continue the
invaluable research and development efforts for the weapons systems
that give our troops an overwhelming edge on the battlefield. We should
never put our service men and women in harm's way with anything less
than overpowering force and the most advanced technology available.
I would be remiss, however, if I did not add that I remain concerned
about the effect declining defense budgets are having on our ability to
recruit and retain new engineers and scientists who design, maintain,
and upgrade our weapon's systems. Picatinny Arsenal, located in my
congressional district, is home to many of our Nation's best and
brightest weapons engineers. The men and women of Picatinny Arsenal
design warheads for the Patriot missile, the 155mm howitzer for the
Army's revolutionary Crusader artillery system and improvements to the
gun turret of the Comanche helicopter, as well as developing the
weapons of the future for our troops on the frontlines. If the
knowledge that exists at Pacatinny and similar facilities within the
Department of Defense is not passed on to new engineers and scientists,
it will be lost forever. This knowledge cannot be replicated or
replaced. We can only retain it and maintain it by continuing to
recruit bright young men and women and by giving them the resources to
continue their critical work.
Again, I want to commend Chairman Spence and the other members of the
House National Security Committee for their work on this bill.
Mr. SAXTON. Mr. Chairman, I have a noncontroversial amendment to
title 29 of the bill dealing with wildlife conservation on military
lands or, as it is better known, the Sikes Act.
During the past 3 years, my Subcommittee on Fisheries Conservation,
Wildlife and Oceans conducted two hearings on the Sikes Act and the
House, on two separate occasions during the 104th Congress, approved
legislation to extend this landmark statute.
Regrettably, this legislation did not become law and the Department
of Defense [DOD], the Department of the Interior [DOI], and the
International Association of Fish and Wildlife
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Agencies have been engaged in ongoing discussions on the details of a
reauthorization bill.
I am happy to report that those negotiations have now been successful
and that the language contained in my amendment has been endorsed by
DOD, DOI, and the States.
The Sikes Act is the law under which land under the jurisdiction of
the Department of Defense is managed for fish and wildlife-related
conservation and recreational purposes. The Department of Defense
controls nearly 25 million acres of valuable fish and wildlife habitat
at approximately 900 military installations nationwide. These lands,
equal in size to the State of Kentucky, contain a wealth of plant and
animal life, and provide vital habitat for migrating waterfowl and
nearly 100 federally listed threatened or endangered species.
Enacted by Congress in 1960, the Sikes Act provides a mechanism for
cooperative wildlife management on these military installations. It is
time to reauthorize this Act.
Under the terms of my amendment, which I am offering on behalf of
Chairman Don Young, Chairman Joel Hefley, and me, the Sikes Act will be
reauthorized for 5 years; integrated natural resource management plans
will be required on all military installations with significant fish,
wildlife, or natural resources; and certain elements are required for
those plans--including fish and wildlife management, wetland
protection, and fish and wildlife-oriented recreation. The Department
of the Interior and the States will have a meaningful role in the
development of those plans and wildlife-dependent recreation, such as
fishing and hunting, will be facilitated on all military lands, where
appropriate. In addition, the Secretary of Defense shall submit an
annual report to the Congress describing the number of integrated
natural resource management plans in effect, the amount of money
expended on conservation activities, and an assessment on whether these
plans comply with the act.
Finally, this amendment will allow the Department of Defense to
transfer any wildlife conservation fees collected at a military
installation that has been closed to a DOD facility that will remain
open in the future.
Mr. Chairman, I urge the adoption of this noncontroversial amendment
which will not only reauthorize the Sikes Act but will improve its
effectiveness.
Mr. ORTIZ. Mr. Chairman, I rise today to register my opposition to
the provisions of the defense bill inserted by my friend from Ohio
which would put 10,000 United States troops on the United States-Mexico
border.
As a veteran and a former law enforcement officer, I understand the
unique perspectives of those who strive to keep the peace on the
border, and the views of those in this Congress who believe we should
put resources we already have in a place they are needed.
However, this is a very bad idea. For 50 years, the United States
spent our money and our energy on fighting the war against communism
and, in 1989, we saw the Berlin Wall finally come down. It would be a
mistake of enormous proportions if we erected our own wall along our
southern border in the form of our military. At a time when Mexico is
our neighbor, friend, and economic partner, it would be folly to
station troops who are trained to kill on the international border.
There is a huge difference between law enforcement officers trained
to police the civilian population and the military troops who are
trained to kill the enemy.
We have a problem with illegal immigrants and drugs coming across the
border, but the answer to that problem is to increase the Border Patrol
staff along the border, not reinforce it with troops trained to shoot
to kill. Already there have been two incidents along the border in
which the military engaged. As a result, one young U.S. citizen has
died and the Texas Rangers seem to be ready to proceed with a murder
indictment against the marine who fired the shot that killed him.
The reason I support trade treaties like NAFTA and GATT is that they
address the economic foundations of this region by expanding economic
and job opportunities. We are better served as a nation if we address
the economic motivation behind the movement of illegal immigrants and
drugs as opposed to positioning U.S. troops to be our cops.
The CHAIRMAN. Under the rule, the Committee rises.
Accordingly the Committee rose; and the Speaker pro tempore (Mr.
Wicker) having assumed the chair, Mr. Young of Florida, Chairman of the
Committee of the Whole House on the State of the Union, reported that
that Committee, having had under consideration the bill (H.R. 1119) to
authorize appropriations for fiscal years 1998 and 1999 for military
activities for the Department of Defense, to prescribe military
personnel strengths for fiscal years 1998 and 1999, and for other
purposes, pursuant to House Resolution 169, he reported the bill back
to the House with an amendment adopted by the Committee of the Whole.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under the rule, the previous question is
ordered.
Is a separate vote demanded on any amendment to the committee
amendment in the nature of a substitute adopted by the Committee of the
Whole?
Mr. DELLUMS. Mr. Speaker, I demand a separate vote on amendment No.
35 offered by my distinguished colleague from California, Mr.
Rohrabacher, relating to the Nunn-Lugar cooperative threat reduction
funds.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is a separate vote demanded on any other
amendment?
If not, the Clerk will redesignate the amendment on which a separate
vote has been demanded.
The text of the amendment is as follows:
Amendment:
At the end of title XI (page 371, after line 18), insert
the following new section:
SEC. 1112. PROHIBITION ON USE OF FUNDS FOR CERTAIN PURPOSES
IN CASE OF TRANSFER OF MISSILE SYSTEM BY
RUSSIA.
(a) In General.--No fiscal year 1998 Cooperative Threat
Reduction funds may, notwithstanding any other provision of
law, be obligated or expended to carry out a Cooperative
Threat Reduction program in Russia after the date on which it
is made known to the Secretary of Defense that Russia has
transferred to the People's Republic of China an SS-N-22
missile system.
(b) Applicability.--This section shall apply with respect
to any transfer by Russia of an SS-N-22 missile system to the
People's Republic of China that occurs on or after the date
of the enactment of this Act.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the amendment.
The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that
the ayes appeared to have it.
Mr. DELLUMS. Mr. Speaker, I object to the vote on the ground that a
quorum is not present and make the point of order that a quorum is not
present.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Evidently a quorum is not present.
The Sergeant at Arms will notify absent Members.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--yeas 204,
nays 219, not voting 11, as follows:
[Roll No. 235]
YEAS--204
Aderholt
Archer
Armey
Bachus
Baker
Ballenger
Barr
Barrett (NE)
Bartlett
Barton
Bass
Bilbray
Bilirakis
Bliley
Blunt
Boehner
Bonilla
Bono
Brady
Bryant
Bunning
Burr
Burton
Buyer
Callahan
Calvert
Camp
Campbell
Canady
Cannon
Castle
Chabot
Chambliss
Chenoweth
Christensen
Coble
Coburn
Collins
Combest
Condit
Cook
Cooksey
Costello
Cramer
Crapo
Cubin
Cunningham
Danner
Davis (VA)
Deal
DeLay
Diaz-Balart
Dickey
Doolittle
Dreier
Duncan
Dunn
Ehlers
Ehrlich
Emerson
English
Ensign
Everett
Ewing
Fawell
Foley
Forbes
Fowler
Fox
Franks (NJ)
Gallegly
Ganske
Gekas
Gibbons
Gillmor
Gilman
Goode
Goodlatte
Goodling
Goss
Granger
Greenwood
Gutknecht
Hall (TX)
Hansen
Hayworth
Hefley
Herger
Hill
Hilleary
Hobson
Hoekstra
Hostettler
Hulshof
Hunter
Hutchinson
Inglis
Istook
Jenkins
Johnson, Sam
Jones
Kaptur
Kasich
Kelly
Kim
Kingston
Klug
Knollenberg
LaHood
Largent
Latham
LaTourette
Lazio
Leach
Lewis (CA)
Lewis (KY)
Lipinski
Livingston
LoBiondo
Lucas
Manzullo
McCollum
McCrery
McInnis
McIntyre
McKeon
Metcalf
Mica
Miller (FL)
Molinari
Moran (KS)
Myrick
Nethercutt
Ney
Northup
Norwood
Nussle
Packard
Pappas
Parker
Paul
Paxon
Peterson (PA)
Petri
Pickering
Pitts
Pombo
Portman
Poshard
Pryce (OH)
Quinn
Radanovich
Ramstad
Redmond
Regula
Riggs
Riley
Rogan
Rogers
Rohrabacher
Ros-Lehtinen
Roukema
Royce
Ryun
Salmon
Sanford
Saxton
Scarborough
Schaefer, Dan
Schaffer, Bob
Sensenbrenner
Sessions
Shadegg
Shaw
Shimkus
Shuster
Smith (OR)
Smith (TX)
Smith, Linda
Snowbarger
Solomon
Souder
Spence
Stearns
Stump
Sununu
Talent
Tauzin
Taylor (NC)
Thomas
Thune
Tiahrt
Traficant
Upton
Walsh
Wamp
Watkins
Watts (OK)
Weldon (FL)
Weller
Wicker
Wolf
Young (AK)
Young (FL)
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NAYS--219
Ackerman
Allen
Andrews
Baesler
Baldacci
Barcia
Barrett (WI)
Bateman
Becerra
Bentsen
Bereuter
Berman
Berry
Bishop
Blagojevich
Blumenauer
Boehlert
Bonior
Borski
Boswell
Boucher
Boyd
Brown (FL)
Brown (OH)
Capps
Cardin
Carson
Clay
Clayton
Clement
Clyburn
Conyers
Coyne
Cummings
Davis (FL)
Davis (IL)
DeFazio
DeGette
Delahunt
DeLauro
Dellums
Deutsch
Dicks
Dingell
Dixon
Doggett
Dooley
Doyle
Edwards
Eshoo
Etheridge
Evans
Farr
Fattah
Fazio
Filner
Flake
Foglietta
Ford
Frank (MA)
Frelinghuysen
Frost
Furse
Gejdenson
Gephardt
Gilchrest
Gonzalez
Gordon
Graham
Green
Gutierrez
Hall (OH)
Hamilton
Harman
Hastert
Hastings (FL)
Hastings (WA)
Hefner
Hilliard
Hinchey
Hinojosa
Holden
Hooley
Horn
Houghton
Hoyer
Hyde
Jackson (IL)
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Jefferson
John
Johnson (CT)
Johnson (WI)
Johnson, E. B.
Kanjorski
Kennedy (MA)
Kennedy (RI)
Kennelly
Kildee
Kilpatrick
Kind (WI)
King (NY)
Kleczka
Klink
Kolbe
Kucinich
LaFalce
Lampson
Lantos
Levin
Lewis (GA)
Linder
Lofgren
Lowey
Luther
Maloney (CT)
Maloney (NY)
Manton
Markey
Martinez
Mascara
Matsui
McCarthy (MO)
McCarthy (NY)
McDade
McDermott
McGovern
McHale
McIntosh
McKinney
McNulty
Meehan
Meek
Menendez
Millender-McDonald
Miller (CA)
Minge
Mink
Moakley
Mollohan
Moran (VA)
Morella
Murtha
Neal
Oberstar
Obey
Olver
Ortiz
Owens
Oxley
Pallone
Pascrell
Pastor
Payne
Pease
Pelosi
Peterson (MN)
Pickett
Pomeroy
Porter
Price (NC)
Rahall
Rangel
Reyes
Rivers
Rodriguez
Roemer
Rothman
Roybal-Allard
Rush
Sabo
Sanchez
Sanders
Sandlin
Sawyer
Schumer
Scott
Serrano
Shays
Sherman
Sisisky
Skaggs
Skeen
Skelton
Slaughter
Smith (MI)
Smith, Adam
Snyder
Spratt
Stabenow
Stark
Stenholm
Stokes
Strickland
Stupak
Tanner
Tauscher
Taylor (MS)
Thompson
Thornberry
Thurman
Tierney
Torres
Towns
Turner
Velazquez
Vento
Visclosky
Waters
Watt (NC)
Waxman
Weldon (PA)
Wexler
Weygand
White
Whitfield
Wise
Woolsey
Wynn
NOT VOTING--11
Abercrombie
Brown (CA)
Cox
Crane
Engel
McHugh
Nadler
Neumann
Schiff
Smith (NJ)
Yates
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Messrs. SCOTT, TOWNS, HASTERT, WYNN, and SMITH of Michigan changed
their vote from ``yea'' to ``nay.''
Mr. COSTELLO and Mr. KINGSTON changed their vote from ``nay'' to
``yea.''
So the amendment was rejected.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
personal explanation
Mr. ENGEL. Mr. Speaker, I was necessarily absent during rollcall vote
235. If present, I would have voted ``no'' on rollcall 235.
Personal Explanation
Mr. ABERCROMBIE. Mr. Speaker, on rollcall No. 235, the Rohrabacher
amendment, I was unavoidably detained at the Arlington National
Cemetery. Had I been present, I would have voted ``no.''
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The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Wicker). The question is on the
committee amendment in the nature of a substitute, as amended.
The committee amendment in the nature of a substitute, as amended,
was agreed to.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the engrossment and third
reading of the bill.
The bill was ordered to be engrossed and read a third time, and was
read the third time.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on passage of the bill.
The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that
the ayes appeared to have it.
Recorded Vote
Mr. DELLUMS. Mr. Speaker, I demand a recorded vote.
A recorded vote was ordered.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 304,
noes 120, not voting 10, as follows:
[Roll No. 236]
AYES--304
Abercrombie
Aderholt
Allen
Andrews
Archer
Armey
Bachus
Baesler
Baker
Ballenger
Barcia
Barr
Barrett (NE)
Bartlett
Barton
Bass
Bateman
Bentsen
Bereuter
Berry
Bilbray
Bilirakis
Bishop
Blagojevich
Bliley
Blunt
Boehlert
Boehner
Bonilla
Bono
Borski
Boswell
Boucher
Boyd
Brady
Brown (FL)
Bryant
Bunning
Burr
Burton
Buyer
Callahan
Calvert
Camp
Canady
Cannon
Capps
Castle
Chabot
Chambliss
Chenoweth
Christensen
Clement
Clyburn
Coble
Coburn
Collins
Combest
Condit
Cook
Cooksey
Costello
Cramer
Crapo
Cubin
Cunningham
Davis (FL)
Davis (VA)
Deal
DeLauro
DeLay
Diaz-Balart
Dickey
Dicks
Dixon
Dooley
Doolittle
Dreier
Duncan
Dunn
Edwards
Ehrlich
Emerson
Ensign
Etheridge
Everett
Ewing
Fawell
Flake
Foley
Forbes
Ford
Fowler
Fox
Frelinghuysen
Frost
Gallegly
Gejdenson
Gekas
Gibbons
Gilchrest
Gillmor
Gilman
Gonzalez
Goode
Goodlatte
Goodling
Gordon
Goss
Graham
Granger
Green
Greenwood
Gutknecht
Hall (OH)
Hall (TX)
Hamilton
Hansen
Harman
Hastert
Hastings (WA)
Hayworth
Hefley
Hefner
Herger
Hill
Hilleary
Hinojosa
Hobson
Hoekstra
Holden
Horn
Hostettler
Houghton
Hoyer
Hulshof
Hunter
Hutchinson
Hyde
Inglis
Istook
Jefferson
Jenkins
John
Johnson (CT)
Johnson (WI)
Johnson, E. B.
Johnson, Sam
Jones
Kaptur
Kasich
Kelly
Kennedy (RI)
Kennelly
Kildee
Kim
King (NY)
Kingston
Knollenberg
Kolbe
LaHood
Lampson
Largent
Latham
LaTourette
Lazio
Leach
Lewis (CA)
Lewis (KY)
Linder
Lipinski
Livingston
Lucas
Maloney (CT)
Maloney (NY)
Manton
Manzullo
McCollum
McCrery
McDade
McHale
McInnis
McIntosh
McIntyre
McKeon
Meehan
Meek
Metcalf
Mica
Millender-McDonald
Miller (FL)
Mink
Molinari
Mollohan
Moran (KS)
Murtha
Myrick
Nethercutt
Ney
Northup
Norwood
Nussle
Ortiz
Oxley
Packard
Pallone
Pappas
Parker
Pascrell
Pastor
Paxon
Pease
Peterson (MN)
Peterson (PA)
Pickering
Pickett
Pitts
Pombo
Pomeroy
Porter
Portman
Poshard
Price (NC)
Pryce (OH)
Quinn
Redmond
Regula
Reyes
Riggs
Riley
Rogan
Rogers
Rohrabacher
Ros-Lehtinen
Rothman
Roukema
Ryun
Salmon
Sanchez
Sandlin
Sanford
Saxton
Scarborough
Schaefer, Dan
Schaffer, Bob
Scott
Sessions
Shadegg
Shaw
Sherman
Shimkus
Shuster
Sisisky
Skeen
Skelton
Slaughter
Smith (MI)
Smith (OR)
Smith (TX)
Smith, Adam
Smith, Linda
Snowbarger
Snyder
Solomon
Souder
Spence
Spratt
Stearns
Stenholm
Stump
Sununu
Talent
Tanner
Tauscher
Tauzin
Taylor (MS)
Taylor (NC)
Thomas
Thompson
Thornberry
Thune
Thurman
Tiahrt
Tierney
Torres
Traficant
Turner
Upton
Visclosky
Walsh
Wamp
Watkins
Watts (OK)
Weldon (FL)
Weldon (PA)
Weller
Weygand
White
Whitfield
Wicker
Wise
Wolf
Young (AK)
Young (FL)
NOES--120
Ackerman
Baldacci
Barrett (WI)
Becerra
Berman
Blumenauer
Bonior
Brown (CA)
Brown (OH)
Campbell
Cardin
Carson
Clay
Clayton
Conyers
Coyne
Cummings
Danner
Davis (IL)
DeFazio
DeGette
Delahunt
Dellums
Deutsch
Dingell
Doggett
Doyle
Ehlers
Engel
English
Eshoo
Evans
Farr
Fattah
Fazio
Filner
Foglietta
Frank (MA)
Franks (NJ)
Furse
Ganske
Gephardt
Gutierrez
Hastings (FL)
Hilliard
Hinchey
Hooley
Jackson (IL)
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Kanjorski
Kennedy (MA)
Kilpatrick
Kind (WI)
Kleczka
Klink
Klug
Kucinich
LaFalce
Lantos
Levin
Lewis (GA)
LoBiondo
Lofgren
Luther
Markey
Martinez
Mascara
Matsui
McCarthy (MO)
McCarthy (NY)
McDermott
McGovern
McKinney
McNulty
Menendez
Miller (CA)
Minge
Moakley
Moran (VA)
Morella
Neal
Oberstar
Obey
Olver
Owens
Paul
Payne
Pelosi
Petri
Rahall
Ramstad
Rangel
Rivers
Rodriguez
Roemer
Roybal-Allard
Royce
Rush
Sabo
Sanders
Sawyer
Schumer
Sensenbrenner
Serrano
Shays
Skaggs
Stabenow
Stark
Stokes
Strickland
Stupak
Towns
Velazquez
Vento
Waters
Watt (NC)
Waxman
Wexler
Woolsey
Wynn
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NOT VOTING--10
Cox
Crane
Lowey
McHugh
Nadler
Neumann
Radanovich
Schiff
Smith (NJ)
Yates
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The Clerk announced the following pair: On this vote:
Radanovich of California for, with Mr. Yates of Illinois,
against.
Ms. STABENOW and Mr. MARTINEZ changed their vote from ``aye'' to
``no.''
Mr. FORD changed his vote from ``no'' to ``aye.''
So the bill was passed.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
The title of the bill was amended so as to read: ``A bill to
authorize appropriations for fiscal year 1998 for military activities
of the Department of Defense, for military construction, and for
defense activities of the Department of Energy, to prescribe personnel
strengths for such fiscal year for the Armed Forces, and for other
purposes.''.
A motion to reconsider was laid on the table.
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