[Congressional Record Volume 143, Number 90 (Tuesday, June 24, 1997)]
[House]
[Pages H4320-H4328]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]




                              THE ECONOMY

  The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Jones). Under the Speaker's announced 
policy of January 7, 1997, the gentleman from Wisconsin [Mr. Neumann] 
is recognized for 60 minutes as the designee of the majority leader.
  Mr. NEUMANN. Mr. Speaker, I planned on rising tonight to talk about 
our debt and deficit and how we will balance the budget and how 
important it is to our children's future that we do balance the budget 
and talk also about a bill that we will be introducing about paying 
down the debt, but before I do that, I have been listening to the 
debate here tonight and I would like to open this evening by reminding 
the American people that 3 or 4 short years ago this debate was not 
about how much we could reduce taxes.
  In 1993, I hope everyone remembers, the other side was in control. 
But the discussion was not about how much and which taxes should be 
reduced. In 1993, we passed the largest tax increase in American 
history. This debate has changed entirely. And whether we agree or 
disagree with all the different aspects of the tax bill, I think it is 
very, very important that when we look back on 1993 and we remember the 
other side was in control at that time, the debate was about entirely 
different topics.
  It was not about how much or which taxes to cut. Instead it was about 
which taxes to increase and how far should we raise them.
  You remember the gasoline tax? They said it was only a tax increase 
on the wealthy, but you were wealthy if you had an automobile and you 
stopped at the gas pump and filled up your car. Or if you were on 
Social Security earning $34,000 a year, your taxes were increased.
  Somehow in this debate tonight we have totally lost sight of the fact 
that a few short years ago, with the other side in control, the entire 
debate was about how much higher taxes had to be to even begin to 
reduce the deficit. The debate tonight is about which taxes we should 
reduce and how much should they go down as we reach a balanced budget.
  How far we have come in 4 short years, really since 1995, when there 
was a change out here. The American people dictated that there was to 
be a change. I think in the next election the American people should 
really remember this difference and remember this debate tonight and 
remember the entire discussion out here and think about whether they 
want to go back to the 1993 model, where the debate is about how much 
your taxes should be raised and which ones should be raised, or whether 
they like this 1997 debate much better.
  As we get into this debate and even as we may disagree with each 
other a little bit, would you prefer the 1997 debate? We are actually 
balancing the budget. And at the same time we are balancing the budget, 
we have curtailed the growth of government spending to a point where we 
can both balance the budget and reduce taxes at the same time.

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  So in my opinion this is a great debate to have and we should be 
having this sort of debate before the American people. Which taxes 
should be reduced and how far should they be did reduced.
  I heard a lot of numbers over there. They talked about 91 million and 
this million and that million and these people and those people. I 
guess I have to look at the tax cuts in a little different way. When I 
go to church on Sunday and I talk to my friends on the way out from 
church and they have got three kids, one of them is heading off to 
college, we had this discussion recently, one of them is heading off to 
college and when they go to college they qualify for the college tax 
tuition credit. They get half of up to $3,000 of the tuition. That 
means $1,500 coming back in their family. They have still got two kids 
at home.
  These are middle income folks that get up every morning and go to 
work for a living. They are earning $40-, and $50,000 between the two 
incomes in their house. They get that $1,500 to send the oldest to 
college, but the oldest is still expected to work and earn part of the 
money that it costs to go to college. That is called personal 
responsibility. And for the two kids they still have at home, they are 
going to get another $1,000 back.
  I do not understand all that stuff about 91 million or this many 
million or that many million. But I sure as shootin' understand that 
when I am talking about folks back home that are getting up every 
morning and going to work with $40- or $50,000 or $30,000 coming into 
their house, the concept of being able to keep $1,500 to send that 
oldest kid to school and another $1,000 for the other two that are 
still at home, they understand that they are going to get to keep 
$2,500 more, and they do not understand all this class warfare rhetoric 
about who is rich and who is not rich. But they sure understand that 
their hard work is going to pay off by being allowed to keep more of 
their own money in their own pocket instead of sending it on out here 
to Washington. That really is the framework this whole debate should be 
in.
  Part of this debate also tonight, and I think it is real important 
for the American people to understand, we were hearing things like if 
you are earning $20,000 a year that you are not going to get a tax cut. 
There is a very good reason that a family of four earning $20,000 a 
year is not going to get a tax cut. They do not pay any Federal taxes.
  This entire debate is about whether or not people who pay no taxes 
can get a tax cut. In Wisconsin we have a little hard time with this. 
When we think about this situation in Wisconsin and when I ask the 
people back home, do you think somebody who is not paying any Federal 
taxes can get a tax cut? And they start laughing at the question, 
because they understand that if you are not paying any taxes you cannot 
get a tax cut.
  So what is this debate really about? This debate is really about 
whether or not people who are paying no taxes to start with should 
receive an additional check. Some people would say if you are not 
paying any taxes to start with and you get a check that, in fact, that 
is not a tax cut but that is a form of welfare.

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  So I have to put this debate again in the proper context. There are 
some people in this country, as a matter of fact, if you are a family 
of four and you are at minimum wage or thereabouts earning over $12,000 
a year, not only do you not pay tax into the Federal Government, but 
the Federal Government writes your family a check for $2,500 already.
  So when we put this debate into proper context, the debate is not 
about who qualifies for the tax cut but the debate is rather about, if 
you are not paying any taxes to start with, is it reasonable to think 
you are going to get a tax cut? And forgive me, I am here in 
Washington, this question is being asked. Out in Wisconsin, we kind of 
laugh at that question. Because it is pretty obvious, if you are not 
paying any taxes, it is pretty tough to get a tax cut. So again, I 
think we need to put that part of the debate into proper perspective.
  I think I have heard a lot about children and how important the 
children are in this Nation, and I am going to devote a lot of the rest 
of the hour to that particular discussion. Because when I look at this 
picture and I think of our families of five today, with our national 
debt being what it is, being responsible to pay $580 a month to do 
nothing but pay interest on the Federal debt, let us think that number 
again. It is $580 a month to do nothing but pay interest on the Federal 
debt.
  I feel a lot of people out there going ``I do not pay that much in 
taxes.'' But the reality is, every time you walk in a grocery store and 
buy a loaf of bread, the store owner makes a small profit on that loaf 
of bread and part of that profit gets sent on out here to Washington.
  So one way or the other, when you add up all the taxes you are paying 
between the gasoline tax and when you buy your groceries at the store 
and store owners makes a small profit, you send some of that profit out 
here to Washington, when you are done adding all that up, one way or 
the other, you are in fact, as a family of five, are paying $580 to do 
nothing but pay interest on the Federal debt.
  So when I think about the children of this Nation, I like to think 
about our kids as they start their own families, as they get married 
and start having their own families; and I think the best thing we can 
do for this Nation is pay off the Federal debt so they do not have an 
interest payment.
  So instead of sending that money down here to Washington to do 
nothing but pay interest on the Federal debt, instead they can keep it 
in their own homes and maybe buy a better home or better car or provide 
a better education for their children.
  I was just talking, too, to a single mother who happened to be here 
on the House floor this evening, and she is in the room just off the 
House floor, and she was just telling me her story. Single mom, raised 
her kids by herself. And she was looking at this tax bill and she was 
saying, ``I am not sure there is anything in this tax bill that is 
going to actually benefit me.''
  She is not 55 yet, so she is not at retirement age. Her 21-year-old 
means she does not qualify for the $500-per-child tax credit. And she 
said to me, ``Mark, what I really want to do is I want to sell my 
house, because with my son gone, I no longer have to own that house and 
I can cut back on my expenses and start saving up for my retirement. 
That is really what I want to do. I wish the tax package would have 
done something for me.''
  When I talked to her and I noted the fact that if you are in that 
case, where you raised your children and maybe they are gone now but 
you decided you are not 55 but maybe you would like to sell your home 
and you feel kind of trapped in that home because if you sell the home, 
you got to pay the tax on the profit and if you wait until 55 you do 
not have to.
  And I explained to her in this tax bill, the way it is currently 
written, instead of having the 55 age bracket in there, where the 
Government dictates what year you can have this tax benefit, you can 
now sell it at any age. And she perked up considerably, understanding 
that this tax bill would have something for her too.
  And I would suggest she has got a pension plan, and in that pension 
plan there are probably some mutual funds; and when she cashes that 
pension fund in, those mutual funds are going to have gained a profit 
of some sort. We are not talking about wealthy people here. We are 
talking about hard-working people.
  I know how many hours they put in back there. We are talking about 
the hard-working people that come to work every day of the week and 
they have got a pension fund of some sort. So when they reach 
retirement and they sell that pension fund, the capital gains 
reduction, of course, is going to benefit them directly.
  There is one other thing that I think we ought to turn our attention 
to, and that is that discussion before about whether people not paying 
taxes should in fact receive a tax cut. I think, instead of having that 
debate, what we should have a debate about is whether it is fair for 
people that get married should pay more taxes than people who do not 
get married.
  Did you know that, in the United States of America today, if you have 
got four people working in the same job, earning exactly the same 
money,

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and two of those people are married to each other, and the other two 
people are not married to each other, the two people that are married 
to each other earning exactly the same money pay more taxes than the 
two people that are not married to each other. There is something wrong 
with that.
  So if we want to talk about reallocating this, I will give you one of 
my personal preferences; and that would be that we eliminate the 
marriage tax penalty. So rather than talk about giving tax cuts to 
people who are not giving any taxes, why do we not talk about 
strengthening the family ties in our Nation and end the marriage tax 
penalty. If we can improve on this bill, certainly that should be one 
we ought to think about improving upon.
  I could spend the rest of the night talking about tax cuts, but I 
really came over this evening to talk about some other issues that are 
really very, very important to the future of this country.
  This chart really shows why I left the private sector and came out 
here. Before 1989, I had never been to a political event. I voted 
pretty regular, but really was not actively involved in politics at 
all. But we started watching the growth of the Federal debt, and that 
is what this chart shows.
  My colleagues will notice that from 1960 to 1980, the debt did not 
grow very much. But from 1980 forward, that debt just started growing 
right off the chart. I would point out that we are about here in this 
picture right now tonight as we speak. It is a very serious situation.
  By the way, for all the Democrats listening tonight, when I said 1980 
and you all started nodding your heads and you said that was the year 
Reagan took over and for all the Republicans listening and I said 1980 
and you started nodding your heads and said that is when the Democrats 
were still in control of this place, well, I would like to point out 
that in 1980 we did have a Republican President and a Democrat 
Congress. And rather than pass the blame to one party or the other, do 
my colleagues not think it is time that we, as the American people, 
recognize this problem and do something about it?
  And that really is what I would like to devote the rest of my hour 
here this evening, or at least most of it. This is a very serious 
problem. I would like to point out how big that number is to help us 
comprehend just exactly how large and how significant the problem is.
  We currently stand $5.3 trillion in debt. The number looks like this. 
And that number is too big for anybody to understand, it really is. So 
what I did, and this is what we used to do in my old math class back 
when I was teaching math, I divided the debt by the number of people. 
For every man, woman, and child in the United States of America, our 
Government has borrowed $20,000. For a family of five, like mine, they 
borrowed $100,000.
  Let me put that another way. Our Federal Government has effectively 
spent $100,000 more than it collected in taxes, basically, over the 
last 15 years for a family of five, like mine. They have spent $100,000 
more than they collected in taxes, basically, over the last 15 years.

  Here is the kicker. I mean, those are still all numbers on this 
board. This bottom one is what really means something. This is what we 
mentioned before. A family of five in the United States of America 
today, to do nothing but pay the interest on this debt, needs to send a 
check to the Federal Government, $580 a month.
  Again I go back to, a lot of folks do not think they are paying that 
much. But every time you walk in a store and buy anything, whether it 
is at a gas station and you are buying gas or whether at a clothes 
store and you are buying an article of clothing or at a food store and 
you buy a loaf of bread, when you buy something, that store owner makes 
a small profit on what you bought. And when they make that profit, part 
of that profit gets sent out here to Washington. One you way or 
another, this Government is collecting an average of $580 a month to do 
nothing but pay the interest on the Federal debt for an average family 
of five.
  Well, what has been done about this? I think that is a reasonable 
question for folks to start asking. And I want to start with the past. 
Then I want to move into the present. And then I want to talk about the 
future. And I want to start talking about the past.
  I heard my colleagues on the other side of the floor this evening 
doing an awful lot of class warfare and demagoguing. I am going to 
start talking about the past and what is going on here, and I will 
define the past this evening to be before 1995, because in the 1994 
election, they sent a whole new group of people here in 1995. So what 
we are talking about here in the past is pre-1995. Think about pre-
1995.
  I suspect most everyone listening this evening remembers Gramm-
Rudman-Hollings. In middle of the late 1980s, the Gramm-Rudman-Hollings 
bill promised the American people a balanced budget and they laid out a 
deficit stream. The deficit stream is this blue line in the chart. They 
promised the American people they would get to a balanced budget, and 
that deficit stream would follow the blue line.
  The problem is, when they followed that deficit stream, what actually 
happened is the deficits ballooned and they did not keep their promises 
to the American people. And, for some reason, the American people got 
upset. So the people in Washington knew what to do about that. The 
people in Washington said well, since we cannot keep that one because 
the deficit is ballooning and we want to keep spending the taxpayers' 
money because we here in Washington know how to do that better than the 
people know how to do it for themselves, so what we will do is give 
them a new Gramm-Rudman-Hollings bill. And they gave us a new one in 
1987 and that promised to get to a balanced budget following this blue 
line and reaching balance in the year 1993.
  Except the same thing happened. So you see, when we look at past 
promises made to the American people, those promises were not kept. 
And, in fact, while they promised a balanced budget, the deficits 
exploded and the promises just absolutely were not kept to the American 
people.
  You know what really puzzles me out here in this community. For some 
reason, the people in Washington have a hard time understanding why the 
people in America are cynical. I do not have any problem at all. This 
is what was going on in the late 1980s, when we were making a decision 
to leave the private sector, to leave a very good business, and to 
leave a very happy family life, where I could actively be involved in 
all the things my children were doing. When they went to a basketball 
game or volleyball game or track meet for Tricia, I could go to those 
things.
  This is what was going on out here in Washington. I was one of those 
people who got very upset as they promised one thing and did something 
different. The American people do not believe in Washington because the 
promises that have been made from Washington have repeatedly been 
broken in the past. And again I emphasize, this is a picture of the 
past.
  So let us bring us up a little more current. Let us go to 1993. 
Because in 1993, there were a lot of people who started talking 
seriously about trying to reduce the deficit. And the discussion in 
1993 was this deficit has to be brought under control. And they started 
wringing their hands in this city, because when the deficit was going 
to be brought under control, there was really only one of two things 
they could do. They could either raise taxes, taking more money out of 
the pockets of the American people and getting it here in Washington so 
they could control more of your life, that was one option, or they 
could curtail the growth of Government spending.
  We all know what happened in 1993. In 1993, by a single, solitary 
vote here in the House of Representatives, they passed the largest tax 
increase in American history. And over in the Senate it went. And in 
the Senate also, by one single, solitary vote, they again passed the 
largest tax increase in American history.
  So what are we saying the past is all about here? The past is about a 
series of promises that were made to the people and they were broken. 
The past is about a decision that, rather than curtailing the growth of 
Government spending in Washington, we would allow that Government 
spending to keep growing and take more money out of the pockets of the 
people and try to achieve a balanced budget. That is the past, and that 
ended in 1994.

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  Because after they have passed that tax increase on the American 
people, by a single vote in the House and a single vote in the Senate, 
after they passed that tax increase, the American people said, we have 
had enough of this. We do not think Washington should take more money 
out of our pockets. We think Washington already has enough of our 
money. And, in fact, we honestly believe that, instead of sending the 
money to Washington we kept it in our own homes, we could do a better 
job deciding what is in the best interests of our own families and we 
can make better decisions about education and about what we should be 
doing to help our children.
  So this change that occurred, it occurred in 1994 when the American 
people said enough is enough. They were sick of the broken promises, 
and they were tired of the concept that the only way to do anything 
about the deficit was to reach into their pockets and take more money 
out.
  And I have got to believe that every time they stopped at the gas 
pump and filled up with gas, knowing that the Government had raised 
their taxes at the gasoline pump, that they figured out this whole tax 
debate that you heard so much about earlier this evening about whether 
this was a tax on the wealthy or not, I think they figured out in 1993, 
when they said they were only going to raise taxes on the wealthy 
people, and the wealthy people were anybody that stopped at a gas pump 
to fill their car up because they paid higher gasoline tax, I think 
they figured out way back then what this is all about.
  What it is all about is getting to a point where, instead of breaking 
promises and raising taxes, taking more money out the pockets of people 
and getting it here in Washington, it is all about keeping promises and 
seeing if we cannot both balance the budget and reduce taxes on the 
American people by curtailing the growth of Government spending.
  They could have done that in 1993. Make absolutely no mistake about 
it. In 1993, they could have done that. So as we move forward now, 
1980s, 1990s, promises made, we were supposed to get to a balanced 
budget, it did not happen. 1993 conclusion: Raise taxes on American 
people instead of curtailing the growth of Government spending. That is 
the past.
  Let me kind of move, then, to what we inherited in 1995, when I first 
was elected and came out here. I see I have been joined by my good 
friend from Colorado [Mr. Bob Schaffer]. The American people have done 
a great job sending us some wonderful freshmen this time around, also.
  But this is what we inherited when we got here. When we got to 
Washington, we inherited this deficit line. If we had come out here and 
played golf and basketball instead of doing our job, this is where the 
deficit was headed if we did absolutely nothing. In the first 12 
months, in 1995, we had the 100 days, we had the Contract, we had all 
of those good things going on; and through the fights that we went 
through, it came down to this yellow line.

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  That is if we had done nothing after 1995, the yellow line is where 
we were going. The green line, that was our promise made to the 
American people. I would call Members' attention back to this because 
the American people have almost forgotten that in 1995 the group of 
people that are here today, we also made a series of promises to the 
American people. We said we were going to get to a balanced budget 
because we knew how important that was if we were going to preserve 
Social Security and Medicare. We knew how important that was to future 
generations of Americans to not let this debt continue to explode. So 
we laid a plan into place to balance the budget. It is this green line. 
But there is a big difference between the Gramm-Rudman-Hollings of the 
past and what started happening in 1995. The blue line is what actually 
happened. My colleagues will notice the red line up here where we were. 
This is where we got after 12 months. This is what we hoped to do. But 
my colleagues will notice this line is below the green line. It is 
absolutely different than the Gramm-Rudman-Hollings. In Gramm-Rudman-
Hollings the targets were not met and the people were misled. We are in 
our third year of a 7-year plan to balance the budget and we are not 
only on track, we are ahead of schedule. Something is different in this 
community.
  I want to show this in another way to make this as crystal clear as I 
can possibly make it. This red column that I am showing here, this is 
how much money we promised the American people the deficit would be 
down to in the year 1996. So when we laid out this plan in 1995, we 
projected a deficit in fiscal year 1996. That is this red column. This 
blue column is what we actually achieved. I again point out the 
difference. This is what was promised, this is what the deficit 
actually was. Notice in the first year of our 7-year plan to balance 
the budget, we were not only on target but we were actually about $50 
billion ahead of schedule. This is the second year of our plan to 
balance the budget. What we promised. This was a promise we made back 
in 1995 to the American people. This is where we said it would be. This 
is where it is. In fact we were not only $50 billion ahead of schedule 
in year 2, we were over $100 billion ahead of schedule in year 2.
  Let me put this in perspective so it makes little more sense. When 
the government did not spend this extra $100 billion, that meant that 
instead of going into the private sector and borrowing this money and 
getting it out here in Washington, that the money stayed available in 
the private sector. When there is more money available in the private 
sector, in this case the $100 billion the government did not borrow, 
when that money is available out there in the private sector, what 
happens is the interest rates stay down. In an average State like 
Wisconsin, 1/50th of that is $2 billion. Translation, 2,000 million 
dollars was available floating around out there in the State of 
Wisconsin. With more money available, of course the interest rates 
stayed down. When the interest rates stayed down, people started buying 
more houses and cars. When they bought more houses and cars, of course 
someone had to go to work building the houses and cars. That meant 
there were job opportunities so they did not have to stay on the 
welfare rolls. That is the Republican model that was initiated in 1995. 
Instead of going the route of reaching into your pockets, taking more 
taxes out here to Washington, the idea was curtail the growth of 
government spending, and when they spend less, of course, they borrow 
less. When they borrow less, there is more money available in the 
private sector. More money available means lower interest rates. Lower 
interest rates meant people bought more houses and cars. That meant 
they left the welfare rolls and went to work. That is why we see in 
year 2 we were ahead of schedule as well.
  Here is where we are right now. We are in year 3. Again the red 
column is what was promised to the American people. The blue column is 
what is actually happening. My colleagues will notice again in year 3, 
the third year of this plan, we are once again ahead of schedule. Think 
back to how different this is from 1988 and the Gramm-Rudman-Hollings 
bill. We are not only on track but we are ahead of schedule in 
balancing the budget. Again our model, different than the idea of 
reaching into the pockets of the American people and getting more money 
out here in Washington to make it look good, was a very different 
model. This red column here shows how fast spending was growing before, 
in the past, before 1995. My colleagues will notice the red column is 
5.2 percent. It is bigger than the blue column. We have in fact 
curtailed the growth of government spending. This is how fast it was 
growing before. This blue column shows how fast it is growing now. We 
have in fact curtailed the growth of government spending to get this 
monster called the deficit under control. Very, very different than 
what was going on in 1993.
  Again think back to 1993. Into your pockets, how much more money can 
we send to Washington, DC because, after all, Washington, DC could not 
possibly curtail the growth of government spending. The new people, 
1995 and forward, and I am happy to have a freshman join me here, this 
is the new Republican, the new Republican has balanced the budget by 
curtailing the growth of government spending. In fact it has been so 
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now not only on track to a balanced budget by 2002, we will probably 
balance the budget even sooner.
  Let me translate this into real meaning for real people in the United 
States of America. What this means for our folks in Wisconsin is that 
we can not only balance the budget but because we have curtailed the 
growth of government spending, not draconian cuts like the other side 
would have my colleagues believe but curtailed the growth of government 
spending, because we have curtailed the growth of government spending 
we can both balance the budge and reduce taxes on the American people 
at the same time. In fact it is happening right now as we speak.
  Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gentleman from Colorado, [Mr. Bob 
Schaffer].
  Mr. BOB SCHAFFER of Colorado. I thank the gentleman for yielding.
  Mr. Speaker, I have been listening to the debate and came over here 
on the floor because I really wanted to get to this whole issue that we 
have been hearing day after day after day about how our tax plan 
supposedly only benefits a small sector of the economy, the taxpayers, 
and those somehow are the rich. I really wanted to focus in on that 
because I think when the American people begin to understand the 
numbers and the statistics that underlie that whole flawed philosophy, 
this silly notion that our tax cuts benefit only the rich, I think when 
the American public begins to understand that, first of all they get a 
glimpse of how things work in Washington, how the deception and the 
deceit is at an all-time high around here by those on the far left who 
are really afraid of this tax cut package because they understand the 
real numbers, I believe, they understand that we really are moving 
ourselves as a Nation toward a balanced budget, we are doing it not 
only by exercising fiscal sanity when it comes to balancing and 
spending but we are also focusing on ways to improve the performance of 
the economy by allowing those who work hardest and those who are able 
to apply the principles of the free market and the principles of 
success, those individuals are in fact becoming more productive, 
becoming more energetic and they really are becoming liberated by a tax 
policy which taxes them less and rewards greater productivity, be it in 
home businesses, small businesses or in the workplace.
  Our tax package, the one the gentleman described just a moment ago, 
distributes 75 percent of those tax cuts to the middle class. These are 
people who earn $75,000 a year or less. Those are the individuals who 
are the target of our plan.
  Mr. NEUMANN. If you are a family of 5 and you are earning, say, 
$35,000 a year and let us just say you have got one headed off to 
college that is going to pay about $5,000 a year, could the gentleman 
help our colleagues this evening to understand if you are in a family 
of 5, 3 kids and got one headed off to college, how much would they 
benefit under this tax package?
  Mr. BOB SCHAFFER of Colorado. With the one going to college.
  Mr. NEUMANN. That is half of the $3,000, or about $1,500 if they are 
paying that much, assuming they are paying that much.
  Mr. BOB SCHAFFER of Colorado. I actually have the whole rundown here 
under this paper somewhere. I would love to go through that.
  Before I do that, though, and move on from that, I want to focus in 
on how it is that middle-class taxpayers are considered rich by the 
liberals and the Democrats here in Washington, because then I think it 
makes it easier for us to apply the Republican tax package to the 
average family. Realize that we really are talking about average 
families in America.
  There is a term that we are beginning to hear here. I heard it just a 
few weeks ago. It is called family economic income. This is an 
important one for taxpayers to remember, because this is not the income 
that we earn or that pay taxes on. This is a calculation that is an 
invention, really, by the Treasury Department, which has been adopted 
by the liberal Democrats here in Washington because family economic 
income suggests that we make more money as taxpayers than we really do.
  Here is how they do that. Again, I have only learned about this last 
week when I began looking into this term and this number and hearing 
these wild statistics that we are somehow only providing tax benefits, 
tax relief, for the rich.
  This category, family economic income, is a way to magically 
transform a family making $45,000 a year into a family making $75,000 a 
year. This is how they do it. My father used to warn me about these 
get-rich-quick schemes; overnight you become wealthy or you become a 
millionaire. Usually they are not true. In this case it is also the 
case that it is just not true.
  Here is how they do it. They take that $45,000 that a family may make 
and they add $12,000 for the rent you could get if you did not live in 
your home and you rented it out. It is $12,000 a year. Since your home, 
again, may generate $12,000 a year in rental income if you moved out 
and somebody else moved in, that $12,000 is added to your $45,000 in 
real income. That is the first step.
  Mr. NEUMANN. If you moved out of your house and rented it out so you 
collected that $12,000 more a year, so that your income went up by 
$12,000, where would you live? And would that not cost you money?
  Mr. BOB SCHAFFER of Colorado. This is a question that did not occur 
to the Treasury Department, apparently. It is really the fallacy in 
these numbers. This is imputed income, or imputed rent as they call it. 
This is just one way they bump up your income.
  Right now we are up to $57,000. The $45,000 family now, according to 
the Treasury Department and liberal Democrats, makes $57,000 a year 
because they may be able to get rental income on their house if they 
moved out and rented their home to somebody else. Bear in mind this is 
not money they are really making; it is just an estimate. I am not 
kidding. I first thought they were kidding when I heard about this. But 
let me continue. $12,000 for rent you could get if you did not live in 
your home. That is the first addition.
  Next they add $5,500 for the family health insurance that your 
employer provides. Again, if you are working and your employer provides 
a health insurance benefit, they assume that you are making an 
additional $5,500 over what your paycheck suggests you make.
  Next, they add $1,000 for something that they call unreported or 
underreported income. It is unclear as to what underreported or 
unreported income might be. It is never really assumed. They just throw 
that additional $1,000 in to bump the number up more. I continue. There 
really is more here.
  Next they add $10,000 for your share of the Wall Street paper 
profits. How is that for money you did not even know you had?
  Next they add another $5,000 for your teenager's part-time summer 
job. If the student that you mentioned before happens to work in the 
summer, that is added to what the Democrats believe to be your family 
income.
  Mr. NEUMANN. Would the gentleman give us the $10,000 Wall Street one 
again? I have not heard this list before.
  Mr. BOB SCHAFFER of Colorado. Paper profits.
  Mr. NEUMANN. A pension fund, maybe?
  Mr. BOB SCHAFFER of Colorado. Could be pension funds. Could be the 
savings account that you have or the checking account that you have at 
home, the notion that there is some financial value in the various 
savings of the income that you have already earned and paid taxes on. 
If you save it or invest it in one place or another, just the financial 
services that you are receiving, the fact that you have got dollars 
invested, there is an imputed value associated with just finances in 
general that may or may not affect a family.
  Again, it is not treated as income anywhere else except in this tax 
discussion here on the floor. These are invented revenues that a family 
supposedly has, according to the liberal Democrats, who are very 
frustrated that the American public loves our tax relief package that 
the Republicans are planning.
  Next they add $2,000 for your IRA deduction. They add $3,000 for the 
unrealized buildup in your pension or IRA. Who needs smoke and mirrors 
when you can just make this stuff up? They add $1,500 for unrealized 
buildup in your life insurance policy. Unrealized buildups. This is 
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funds, but you have the potential to do that over time, so they impute 
that into your present day income.
  Here is the real kicker, proving that those who like to suggest that 
these tax cuts only occur to the rich have no shame. By taking a 
family's $45,000 income figure, adding all of the above numbers, and 
then add on that a final $600 into the calculation for things like your 
parking space at work, because there is presumably some value 
associated with a parking space that you have out there. It goes on.
  But this is how the Democrats come to suggest that the $45,000 in a 
family's income is over and above $75,000 in income, and, therefore, 
you are rich. Everybody who went to bed last night thinking they were 
middle-class taxpayers wakes up today and finds out that many people in 
their government believe them to be the beneficiaries of some kind of 
obscene wealth and therefore unworthy of a tax break. But we really are 
talking about middle-class families.
  People know what their income is. They can see the paycheck when they 
bring it home. It is those individuals, the middle-class hardworking 
Americans who go to work every day, who toil to pay their taxes, stay 
within the confines of the law, go to see an accountant just to make 
sure they did not make some mistake on their IRS tax form because they 
are in fear of an IRS tax agent showing up at their homes, those are 
the folks we have in mind as Republicans.
  Those are the folks we want to assist, the folks we want to allow to 
keep more of their hard-earned income and wealth, not steal it from 
them and confiscate it from them and bring it here to Washington D.C. 
so it can be spent on all these goofy programs that we spend millions 
and billions on every day. We really are concerned about the middle-
class families. Seventy-five percent of the individuals who benefit 
from our Republican tax package are middle-class wage earners earning 
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  Mr. NEUMANN. Could we talk a little bit more about that family 
earning $45,000 a year that actually gets paid $45,000 a year, but with 
their imputed tax under the liberal Democrat plan that goes all the way 
to $75,000? Would it be fair to say that they would have a very 
difficult time finding the $75,000 in cash?
  Mr. BOB SCHAFFER of Colorado. Well, it does not exist. It truly does 
not exist.
  Now you know people who think I am joking, I would urge them to just 
call the Treasury Department and get a calculation of their explanation 
of family economic income. This is the term they use. They have a full 
description of it. All of these items that I went through, the costs of 
the parking space, the imputed rent on the home that you do not rent, 
the $12,000 that they assume you benefit from, things like that; all of 
that is described and listed there. I would encourage people to call 
the Clinton White House, the Treasury Department and see it for 
themselves because I know there are many people who really do not 
believe it, but when you see it, it is a sad occasion, I assure you.
  Mr. NEUMANN. Can I go back again?
  I keep going back to this family who has actually got $45,000 a year. 
It probably means both spouses are working in the house and are 
probably getting up in the morning and doing everything they can to get 
those kids off to school and in the summertime maybe getting the kids 
off to work, and they are the folks that we were talking about before 
where if they got one headed off to college and two kids still home, 
and I see these families in church every Sunday. I mean they are 
sitting there with three kids and one of them is off in college and two 
of them are still home. If their college tuition is $3,000 a year, they 
get $1,500 tax credit under this proposal, and in addition to that they 
get to keep $500 per child for the kids that are still at home. The net 
impact for a family earning 30 or 35 or $40,000 a year, the families 
that are working, probably both spouses, the net effect is they get to 
keep $2,500 a year more of their own money in their own home instead of 
sending it out here to Washington where people here in Washington 
control what they do with it.
  And see, this is really the difference between that discussion you 
heard earlier this evening from the other side and the liberal Democrat 
view and the new people that are here, the present, as I was talking 
about before. The past; we are in the present now, since 1995.
  The view goes like this. People are better able to spend their own 
money in their own homes themselves than people out here in Washington 
are able to do it for them. It is a very, very simple concept: Who is 
best able to spend the money that the people at work every day earn? 
And one side believes that it is the people back there in their own 
homes, and that is why there is $2,500 a month coming to this $45,000 a 
year family that we are talking about, this family with 2 kids, that 
they are working hard to make sure they get a good education and the 
third one headed off to college. That is why the tax cut is aimed at 
those folks, and they can talk about millions and billions and all the 
different people and everything else, but I know for a fact that when I 
talk to people who are in this middle income, they know they are in the 
middle income, they understand earning 30 to 45 or $50,000 a year, and 
they know good and well that when they get to keep an extra $2,500, 
that is $200 a month, they know that means better things for themselves 
and their family, that means they can afford a better education for 
their kids and it means they can afford maybe a better car or better 
house.
  It is all part of the American dream. It is a very basic fundamental 
belief that the people out there in America are better able to make 
good decisions of what to do with their own hard-earned money than the 
people out here in this community in Washington, DC, and that is what 
this is all about.
  Mr. BOB SCHAFFER of Colorado. I met a young woman just right over 
here off to the side of the Chamber. She is from North Carolina. She is 
16 years old. And I asked her--she was observing this debate and 
watching the whole discussion on tax, on the extent to which Congress 
ought to provide tax relief to the American taxpayers, and I asked her. 
I said what do you think about this whole debate? She said that if 
people are willing to work hard and earn more money and apply 
themselves in a way that allows them to provide for their family that 
they ought to be permitted to keep more of their income for themselves.
  That is quite a statement. She is 16 years old. She says she expects 
to major in English and maybe be a writer, possibly a teacher and has 
hopes and dreams like many 16-year-olds across this country, and she 
happens to be from North Carolina, and there are millions of young 
people just like this in Colorado and in your State, I am sure, and 
throughout the country who really do look forward to a day when they 
are going to be self-sufficient, be able to work hard, be able to bring 
home the majority of the income that they earn, put it toward their 
family, their self-sufficiency, buying a home, buying a car, living the 
American dream and contributing to our economy.
  It is their ambition, it is their hope for the future that helps us 
get to this balanced budget quite frankly, and I think after generation 
after generation after generation of people who have entered the work 
force to be taxed more and more and more, is it any wonder that there 
are those who choose not to work? Is it any wonder that there are those 
who in the end do the calculation, as all Americans do, and come to the 
conclusion that sometimes it is easier not to work than it is to apply 
yourself and use your God-given talents to bolster an economy like 
ours?
  I think the greatest thing we can do for the future generation is 
restore hope, restore the energy and the enthusiasm for being a 
participant in a free market economy by taxing families less by 
allowing people to keep more of what they earn, to send less money to 
us here in Washington and allow them to keep it at home and spend it on 
the private charities of their choice at home, spend it on their church 
or synagogue, spend it in their school, spend it on their children, 
spend it in a way that reinvigorates and restores the American dream to 
all young people and all individuals throughout our country.
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future, and earlier this evening before you got into the Chamber here 
we were discussing the past and the Gramm-Rudman-Hollings and this 
vision of Republicans of what we do not want right now, Gramm-Rudman-
Hollings promises that were not kept, and the deficits exploded, and 
the promises were not kept to balance the budget in 1993 where the 
decision was made not to lower taxes or have tax cuts, and it is 
amazing to see the fight now on both sides of the aisle about which 
taxes should be cut because in 1993 before that change in 1995 in that 
past they raised taxes, they did not lower taxes, and the discussion is 
about which taxes are now high.
  That was the past, and then we moved into the present, and we talked 
about the fact that we are in the third year of a 7-year plan to 
balance the budget, and we are not only on track, but we are ahead of 
schedule, and you have kind of turned the discussion now to the future. 
In the present here we have curtailed the growth of Government spending 
to a point where we are virtually at a balanced budget or very close to 
it right now, and we are able to both balance the budget and reduce 
taxes because we have curtailed the growth of Government spending. This 
is a Republican vision where we do not want to go back to the broken 
promises of the past and the tax increases. We are in the present where 
we have got both a balanced budget, we are on track and ahead of 
schedule, in our third year here now and we are also reducing taxes at 
the same time as the President.
  Now let us move to the future a little bit and let us talk about this 
Republican vision for the future of this great Nation we live in. You 
see even after we balance the budget, after we get it to a balance, 
whether it is 2000 or 2002, we still have this $5 trillion debt hanging 
over our heads, and if we do not do anything about that, that means we 
pass this Nation on to our children with a $5 trillion debt knowing 
full well that when they have their families, they are going to have to 
send $600 a month on out here to Washington to pay interest on the debt 
just like our families today have to do.

  Let me give you a new vision for the future. Present vision: Balance 
the budget, reduce taxes. Vision for the future: Let us pay off the 
Federal debt. And a lot of people out here go, well, we cannot pay off 
the Federal debt, but let us just talk about this vision for a minute.
  It is a vision of a balanced budget paying off the Federal debt so we 
can pass this Nation on to our children debt free, and when we pass 
this Nation on debt free and we pay that debt back we are also putting 
the money back into the Social Security trust fund. So this new vision 
is a restored Medicare, a balanced budget and a future that is debt 
free for our children.
  Now a lot of people say I cannot do that, that is not possible, that 
cannot happen out here. Well, I would like to spend a little bit of the 
rest of the time here this evening pointing out that we have introduced 
a bill. It is called a National Debt Repayment Act, and I believe you 
are an original cosponsor with me on this. The National Debt Repayment 
Act is a relatively simple bill. It says that after we balance we will 
simply cap the growth of Government spending at a rate 1 percent below 
the rate of revenue growth. So once we are in balance we cap the growth 
of Government spending 1 percent below revenue growth.
  Well, if we are in balance and revenues grow by 5 percent, that would 
mean spending could only grow by 4 percent. That little bit of extra in 
there, that is the surplus we are talking about, and that surplus is 
going to allow us to literally pay off the entire debt by the year 
2026. So if we just cap the growth of Government spending 1 percent 
below the rate of revenue growth, we can literally pay off the entire 
debt by the year 2026 and give this Nation to our children debt free.
  The second part of the National Debt Repayment Act, it defines what 
exactly to do with that surplus. First part, it caps the growth of 
spending 1 percent below revenue growth. That creates our surplus. The 
second part of the bill says that one-third of that surplus goes to 
additional tax cuts. It recognizes that even after this tax cut bill is 
through the American people are still sending too much money out here 
to Washington.
  So the second thing this bill does is it takes one-third of that 
surplus and provides for additional tax cuts to our American families, 
and I would like to suggest that the next tax cut we make, it should be 
to eliminate the marriage penalty taxes we discussed earlier this 
evening.
  So the first thing then that it does in the second part of the bill 
is it reduces taxes. One-third of the money goes to additional tax 
deductions, two-thirds goes to paying off the Federal debt.
  So one more time through the National Debt Repayment Act, it caps the 
growth of Government spending at a rate 1 percent below the rate of 
revenue growth. If we do that, there will be a surplus. With the 
surplus we take one-third for additional tax cuts, two-thirds to pay 
off the Federal debt. If we do this by the year 2026, the entire 
Federal debt will be paid and we in our generation, the people that 
have run up this debt, will have done what is right and responsible for 
future generations of Americans. Since we ran up this bill we are also 
going to fulfill our obligation and pay it back.
  And again under the National Debt Repayment Act we would develop the 
surplus, one-third for additional tax cuts, two-thirds goes to paying 
off the debt. The debt would be repaid in its entirety by the year 
2026, and we can pass this Nation on to our children debt free.
  There is another side thing here that happened that I think is very 
important. The Social Security system collects more money today than 
what it pays back out to our senior citizens in benefits. That extra 
money is supposed to be in a savings account. When it is not collecting 
enough, it can still make good on its payments to seniors. Well, that 
money that is supposed to be in a savings account, it is not really 
theirs, it has been spent, and I guess that is no real surprise to 
folks that look at Washington, D.C. When Washington saw this extra 
money coming in, more than what were paid out to seniors in benefits, 
what they did is spent the money on other Government programs and put 
IOU's in the trust fund.
  Now the trust fund, that IOU is all part of the Federal debt, so 
under the National Debt Repayment Act, as we are paying off the Federal 
debt, we would also be restoring the solvency of the Social Security 
trust fund so our seniors could once again rely on the solvency of the 
Social Security system and know they are going to keep getting their 
Social Security checks.
  So again I kind of go to the future now on this whole discussion, and 
we look past the balanced budget. I mean all of the good things that 
are happening right now, restoring Medicare for a decade, reducing 
taxes on the American people, a balanced budget; let us move to the 
next phase now on the Republican vision. Beyond the next phase is to 
pay off the Federal debt. By implementing the National Debt Repayment 
Act it caps that. Once we reach balance, it caps the growth of Federal 
spending at a rate 1 percent below the rate of revenue growth. That 
creates a small surplus. That surplus, one-third goes to tax cuts, two-
thirds goes to repaying the Federal debt. If we enact this bill, we pay 
off the entire Federal debt by the year 2026 and we get to give our 
children a nation that is debt free, and what is most important about 
that is by then they will be having their own families, and they will 
have a few kids, too, I hope. I hope they will get married, and I hope 
they are happily married, and I hope they have kids, and instead of 
sending their money down here to Washington to do nothing but pay the 
interest on the Federal debt, they will be able to then keep that money 
because we will have paid the debt off.
  Seventeen percent of the entire budget does nothing but pay the 
interest on the Federal debt. We will not need that money. They can 
keep it in their own homes and get a better education case for their 
kids or buy a nicer home, live the American dream.
  That is what this should be all about.
  So we have got this vision. We have looked at the past, the broken 
promises of Gramm-Rudman-Hollings and the tax increases of 1993. We 
have rejected that, and when people rejected that, the American people 
rejected that in 1994. The new group that came here in 1995 said enough 
of that stuff. We are going to balance the budget by curtailing the 
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  We are now in the third year of our 7-year plan to balance the 
budget, and we are not only on track, we are ahead of schedule. We have 
curtailed the growth of Government spending to the point where we are 
not only going to balance the budget but also reduce taxes on the 
American people, and that is what this tax cut debate is all about this 
evening.
  The third part of this vision is for the future, and it envisions a 
future in this great Nation we live in that is debt free, where we pass 
this country on to future generations without this burden of a debt 
hanging over their heads, and it envisions a nation where when we 
collect money for the Social Security system, the money is actually 
there in the Social Security system as opposed to spent on other 
programs.
  So this vision is passed. We do not want it. Present, it is going 
pretty good when the third year of a 7-year plan and we are on track 
and ahead of schedule. We have curtailed the growth of Government 
spending to a point where we can both balance the budget and reduce 
taxes in a future where we do not stop at a balanced budget, but we 
also pay off the Federal debt so we can give this country to our 
children debt free.
  Mr. BOB SCHAFFER of Colorado. Let me contrast that future that you 
just described to what would happen if we do nothing, if we really do 
what the left wing in Washington wants, which is no tax cuts, which is 
not to balance the budget, which is to continue running this Government 
on auto pilot as if there is not a care in the world and no problems 
down the road.
  You know the statistic that I hope Americans remember is that a child 
born today owes approximately $20,000 to the debt that we have today. 
Now as with the Federal debt, it is no different than any debt that 
anybody has on the mortgage on their home or their car loan or 
whatever. You have to pay interest on that, the cost of the cash that 
you use for whatever purpose. There is a cost associated with the debt 
that we have now, and the interest on the debt just continues to build 
and build and build unless we decide now to get serious about it.

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  That $20,000 that a child born today owes to the Federal debt, over 
the course of that child's working life becomes a debt of upwards of 
$200,000 once we calculate the interest associated with that.
  Now, think of that. A child born today, with the budget scenario that 
we have in the current law, has an obligation to the Federal Government 
of $200,000. That is what they are faced with.
  Mr. Speaker, we talked a little earlier about the hope and the 
opportunity and the excitement that we hope to build into the future of 
every young American, and getting at reducing that $200,000 debt over 
the course of a child's working life is something that we are very 
serious about here in Washington. This new wave of conservative 
budgeting, conservative tax policy that the gentleman mentioned, 
started in 1994 and really got to work here in 1995; I think was 
reinforced in the 1996 election with those of us who came in my class; 
is offering the real prospect of getting a budget balanced.
  The numbers that we have seen are very clear. They are very exciting. 
By seeing these charts and graphs which show us that we are on a 
glidepath toward not only balancing the budget, but a plan beyond that, 
even beyond that, to start looking at what do we do with the savings, 
what do we do with the economic prosperity in America after that? 
Getting that burden off of every child's back, that $200,000 obligation 
to the debt, and removing that by 2026, is something that is great 
cause for optimism to, I am sure, everybody who has children, every 
middle class family, and certainly those of us here who are dedicated 
and committed to working so hard, to seeing these three stages of our 
tax relief, our balanced budget relief and our debt repayment relief 
plan enacted.
  Mr. NEUMANN. Can the gentleman imagine, just go back to the past here 
for just a second, and let us say that in the past they envisioned a 
surplus occurring. What does the gentleman suppose the first thought in 
Washington would have been in the past if a surplus occurred?
  Mr. BOB SCHAFFER of Colorado. Where do we spend it?
  Mr. NEUMANN. And what new government program can we enact, and how 
fast can we get it into place to make sure we get the taxpayers' money 
spent? Because we know if they spend it in Washington, the people in 
Washington can do a much better job spending the people's money than 
the people could if they kept it in their own pocket.
  Now, contrast that past to where we are today. Instead of talking 
about spending that money on other government programs, we are here 
this evening saying that as the surplus develops, one-third for 
additional tax cuts and two-thirds to do the responsible thing, to 
start paying down the Federal debt so that our children can inherit 
this Nation debt-free, and so that the money that is supposed to be in 
the Social Security Trust Fund actually gets there, that is what this 
is all about.
  What a stark contrast in vision from where we were in the past and 
what would have happened, to where we are today in our vision for the 
future that includes a balanced budget, a restored Medicare system; not 
only a balanced budget, but paying off the Federal debt so that our 
kids inherit this Nation debt-free, and the hope and the opportunity 
and all of the things that go with this vision for the future. That is 
what the future of this country is about, and that is what our service 
here in Washington should be about. What a wonderful change it is from 
a couple short years saying.
  Mr. BOB SCHAFFER of Colorado. Mr. Speaker, it really is. Again, I 
have to say, the way we see certain folks responding to this plan, once 
they realize that it really is going to work, that the numbers are 
real, that the glidepath towards a balanced budget is something that we 
really can touch and get our hands around, those who oppose that 
notion, those who really do want us to spend more and tax more and 
continue business as usual, they are screaming like a bag of cats on 
the way to the river, because they realize the power of this particular 
plan and that the American people really do embrace it.
  That is why they come up with these phoney numbers about how our tax 
cuts only benefit the rich. They do not. They benefit middle class. 
Those numbers are very clear, very solid. The Joint Committee on 
Taxation tells us very directly, 75 percent of these tax cuts go to 
households with incomes below $75,000 in real income, the income that 
people bring home from their jobs and their work everyday and as 
calculated from their paychecks, not some phoney income that makes us 
all millionaires overnight.
  Mr. NEUMANN. Mr. Speaker, that is also why in this tax cut package, 
and we heard the debate earlier in the evening to try to provide tax 
cuts for people who are not paying any taxes. They have somehow lost 
sight of this, and we see as this is all developing and we have this 
bright picture and this very large change from what was going on in the 
past, from the broken promises and the mistargets and no hope of a 
balanced budget and the tax increases, we have now moved into the 
present where we are actually going to balance the budget and we have 
curtailed the growth of government spending, so that we are not only 
balancing the budget but reducing those taxes, that change is so 
substantial and they are struggling to get back to that old way.
  So while we do not want to cut taxes for people who are not paying 
any taxes, they want to create a new social welfare program and give 
them a check even if they are not paying taxes. Somehow there is 
something not quite right about that. It just does not flow that one 
cannot get a tax cut if one is not paying taxes.
  Mr. Speaker, one more thing. A lot of the folks viewing this, our 
colleagues viewing this this evening are struggling to understand just 
how far we have come from the old Gramm-Rudman-Hollings days and the 
tax increases, to the present where we are not only on track, we are in 
the third year of our plan, and we have in fact curtailed the growth of 
government spending so that we can provide both tax cuts and a balanced 
budget.
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to make another prediction that the budget is balanced by the year 
2000, maybe even 1999 unless we go into another recession. To show just 
how far we have come, the revenue to the Federal Government has grown 
by an average 7.3 percent. If we look at how much came in last year and 
then this year, the average growth over the last three years was 7.3. 
Over the last 5 years the average growth was 7.3. Over the last 10 
years it was 6.2, and over the last 17 years it was 6.8.
  I throw all of these numbers out there just so the folks can see how 
fast revenue has been growing. In the budget we are projecting we are 
only projecting growth, not 7.3 or 6.8, only 4 percent. So I ask the 
question, the question goes like this: What if revenues grow by 6 
percent? Still not as fast as they have been growing at 7.3, but what 
if revenues grow by 6 percent and we hold the line on spending. We do 
the spending projections on what we have just agreed to. In fact, if 
revenues grow by 6 percent and we meet our spending targets, we will in 
fact have a balanced budget and run our first surplus in the year 2000. 
What that means, if we can get the National Debt Repayment Act passed, 
that means in the year 2000, two-thirds of that $40 billion goes to 
debt repayment and another one-third goes to additional tax reductions.
  So the tax cuts are not over. We have the possibility to go the next 
step and provide additional tax relief to the American people. I 
personally believe that anything we can do to allow the American people 
to keep more of their own money in their own homes and in their own 
decision-making realm, instead of sending it out here to Washington 
where it gets in the hands of people here to decide what to do with 
that, the more we can leave it in their own hands to make their own 
decisions, the better off we are going to be. That is why I find this 
so exciting, because by the year 2000 if we can get the National Debt 
Repayment Act into place, and I think we are going to, we can look at 
the next round of tax cuts for our working families in this great 
Nation we live in.
  That is exciting to think about. I challenge the people that are 
going to get up early tomorrow morning and go to work, I challenge them 
to think about the next paycheck that they get, being able to keep an 
extra 50 bucks for the week in their own home because we reached this 
goal, because that is what this really means. We are now ready to go 
the next step and allow the American people to keep even more of their 
hard-earned money instead of sending it here to Washington. This is a 
tremendous change from where we were in the past and it is a very 
bright future for the future generations of America.

  Mr. BOB SCHAFFER of Colorado. Mr. Speaker, it is a powerful plan for 
the Republican Party that is moving this forward. It signals a day when 
we have moved the politics of pork out of Washington and put the 
American family first.
  We are going to balance the budget in short order. If we have a 
strong economy, my colleague is right, we are going to see this budget 
balanced before the turn of the century. We are going to provide tax 
cuts for middle class families, we are going to offer hope and 
prosperity for those young children who are saddled today with a 
$200,000 obligation, long-term, to the current Federal deficit. We are 
going to resolve that for them before they get into their 30s.
  It is a very powerful plan and program that the Republican Party has 
moved forward, and I hope that those handful of Democrats who are 
sincere about putting American families ahead of pork barrel politics 
find the courage to join us in this plan. Mr. Speaker, I am confident 
that some of them will, but we just need to keep talking about this 
over and over and over again. The American people are smart enough to 
figure out that this is to their advantage and they are going to be 
with us.
  Mr. NEUMANN. Mr. Speaker, will it not be great as we go forward now 
toward the next election cycle, instead of having the discussion of 
class warfare that we heard earlier this evening, if instead of having 
that discussion, we talk about the failures of the past and how 
different it is today.
  We are in the third year of our plan to balance the Federal budget. 
We are not only on track, but we are ahead of schedule. We have in fact 
curtailed the growth of government spending rather than raising taxes, 
and by doing that we are now in a position where we reach a balanced 
budget, probably sooner than projected, probably even sooner than the 
year 2002, and we are reaching the balanced budget while at the same 
time letting the American people keep more of their own money that they 
have earned. This is not a gift from Washington, it is their money.
  What a wonderful vision. We have balanced the budget, we have 
preserved Medicare for future generations, and we are looking at 
additional tax cuts as we go forward. We look forward to a Nation where 
we not only have a balanced budget and reduced taxes, but we also pay 
off the Federal debt so we can pass this Nation on to our children debt 
free. I can think of no higher goal for our service here in Washington 
DC.

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