[Congressional Record Volume 143, Number 76 (Thursday, June 5, 1997)]
[House]
[Pages H3516-H3519]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]




    FOREIGN RELATIONS AUTHORIZATION ACT, FISCAL YEARS 1998 AND 1999

  The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Bonilla). Pursuant to House Resolution 
159 and rule XXIII, the Chair declares the House in the Committee of 
the Whole House on the State of the Union for the further consideration 
of the bill, H.R. 1757.

                              {time}  1530


                     In the Committee of the Whole

  Accordingly the House resolved itself into the Committee of the Whole 
House on the State of the Union for the further consideration of the 
bill (H.R. 1757) to consolidate international affairs agencies, to 
authorize appropriations for the Department of State and related 
agencies for fiscal years 1998 and 1999, and for other purposes, with 
Mr. LaHood (Chairman pro tempore) in the chair.
  The Clerk read the title of the bill.
  The CHAIRMAN pro tempore. When the Committee of the Whole rose 
earlier today, the amendment offered by the gentlewoman from Florida 
[Ms. Brown] had been disposed of.


          Sequential Votes Postponed in Committee of the Whole

  The CHAIRMAN pro tempore. Pursuant to House Resolution 159, 
proceedings will now resume on those amendments on which further 
proceedings were postponed in the following order:
  The perfecting amendment offered by the gentleman from California 
[Mr. Campbell] to the amendment offered by the gentleman from New 
Jersey [Mr. Smith]; and a recorded vote on the amendment by the 
gentleman from New Jersey [Mr. Smith], if requested.
  Proceedings on the other postponed amendments will resume at a later 
time.
  The Chair will reduce to 5 minutes the time for the electronic vote 
after the first vote in this series.


Amendment Offered by Mr. Campbell to the Amendment Offered by Mr. Smith 
                             of New Jersey

  The CHAIRMAN pro tempore. The pending business is the demand for a 
recorded vote on the amendment offered by the gentleman from California 
[Mr. Campbell] to the amendment offered by the gentleman from New 
Jersey [Mr. Smith] on which further proceedings were postponed and on 
which the noes prevailed by voice vote.

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  The Clerk will designate the amendment.
  The Clerk designated the amendment.


                             Recorded vote

  The CHAIRMAN pro tempore. A recorded vote has been demanded.
  A recorded vote was ordered.
  The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 200, 
noes 218, not voting 16, as follows:

                             [Roll No. 167]

                               AYES--200

     Abercrombie
     Ackerman
     Allen
     Baesler
     Baldacci
     Barrett (WI)
     Bass
     Becerra
     Bentsen
     Berman
     Berry
     Bilbray
     Bishop
     Blagojevich
     Blumenauer
     Boehlert
     Boswell
     Boucher
     Boyd
     Brown (CA)
     Brown (FL)
     Brown (OH)
     Campbell
     Capps
     Cardin
     Carson
     Castle
     Clay
     Clayton
     Clement
     Clyburn
     Condit
     Coyne
     Cramer
     Cummings
     Danner
     Davis (VA)
     DeFazio
     DeGette
     Delahunt
     DeLauro
     Dellums
     Dicks
     Dingell
     Dixon
     Doggett
     Dooley
     Edwards
     Ehrlich
     Engel
     Eshoo
     Etheridge
     Evans
     Fattah
     Fawell
     Fazio
     Filner
     Flake
     Foglietta
     Foley
     Ford
     Fowler
     Frank (MA)
     Franks (NJ)
     Frelinghuysen
     Frost
     Furse
     Gejdenson
     Gephardt
     Gibbons
     Gilchrest
     Gilman
     Gonzalez
     Gordon
     Green
     Greenwood
     Gutierrez
     Hamilton
     Harman
     Hastings (FL)
     Hefner
     Hilliard
     Hinchey
     Hinojosa
     Hobson
     Hooley
     Horn
     Houghton
     Hoyer
     Jackson (IL)
     Jackson-Lee (TX)
     Johnson (CT)
     Johnson (WI)
     Johnson, E. B.
     Kelly
     Kennedy (MA)
     Kennedy (RI)
     Kennelly
     Kilpatrick
     Kind (WI)
     Kleczka
     Klug
     Kolbe
     Lampson
     Lazio
     Leach
     Levin
     Lewis (GA)
     Lofgren
     Lowey
     Luther
     Maloney (CT)
     Maloney (NY)
     Markey
     Matsui
     McCarthy (MO)
     McCarthy (NY)
     McDermott
     McGovern
     McHale
     McKinney
     McNulty
     Meehan
     Meek
     Menendez
     Millender-McDonald
     Miller (CA)
     Minge
     Mink
     Moakley
     Molinari
     Moran (VA)
     Morella
     Nadler
     Neal
     Obey
     Olver
     Owens
     Pallone
     Pascrell
     Pastor
     Payne
     Pelosi
     Pickett
     Pomeroy
     Porter
     Price (NC)
     Pryce (OH)
     Ramstad
     Rangel
     Regula
     Reyes
     Rivers
     Rodriguez
     Rothman
     Roukema
     Roybal-Allard
     Rush
     Sabo
     Sanchez
     Sanders
     Sandlin
     Sawyer
     Schumer
     Scott
     Serrano
     Shaw
     Shays
     Sherman
     Sisisky
     Skaggs
     Slaughter
     Smith, Adam
     Snyder
     Spratt
     Stabenow
     Stark
     Stokes
     Strickland
     Tanner
     Tauscher
     Thomas
     Thompson
     Thurman
     Tierney
     Torres
     Towns
     Upton
     Velazquez
     Vento
     Visclosky
     Waters
     Watt (NC)
     Waxman
     Wexler
     White
     Wise
     Woolsey
     Wynn
     Yates

                               NOES--218

     Aderholt
     Archer
     Armey
     Bachus
     Baker
     Ballenger
     Barcia
     Barr
     Barrett (NE)
     Bartlett
     Barton
     Bateman
     Bereuter
     Bilirakis
     Bliley
     Blunt
     Boehner
     Bonilla
     Bonior
     Bono
     Borski
     Brady
     Bryant
     Bunning
     Burr
     Buyer
     Callahan
     Calvert
     Camp
     Canady
     Cannon
     Chabot
     Chambliss
     Chenoweth
     Christensen
     Coble
     Coburn
     Collins
     Combest
     Conyers
     Cook
     Cooksey
     Costello
     Cox
     Crane
     Crapo
     Cubin
     Cunningham
     Davis (IL)
     Deal
     DeLay
     Dickey
     Doolittle
     Doyle
     Dreier
     Duncan
     Dunn
     Ehlers
     Emerson
     English
     Ensign
     Everett
     Ewing
     Forbes
     Fox
     Gallegly
     Ganske
     Gekas
     Gillmor
     Goodlatte
     Goodling
     Goss
     Graham
     Granger
     Gutknecht
     Hall (OH)
     Hall (TX)
     Hansen
     Hastert
     Hastings (WA)
     Hayworth
     Hefley
     Herger
     Hill
     Hilleary
     Hoekstra
     Holden
     Hostettler
     Hulshof
     Hunter
     Hutchinson
     Hyde
     Inglis
     Istook
     Jenkins
     John
     Johnson, Sam
     Jones
     Kanjorski
     Kaptur
     Kasich
     Kildee
     Kim
     King (NY)
     Kingston
     Klink
     Knollenberg
     Kucinich
     LaFalce
     LaHood
     Largent
     Latham
     LaTourette
     Lewis (CA)
     Lewis (KY)
     Linder
     Lipinski
     Livingston
     LoBiondo
     Lucas
     Manton
     Manzullo
     Martinez
     Mascara
     McCollum
     McCrery
     McDade
     McHugh
     McInnis
     McIntyre
     McKeon
     Metcalf
     Mica
     Miller (FL)
     Mollohan
     Moran (KS)
     Murtha
     Myrick
     Nethercutt
     Ney
     Northup
     Norwood
     Oberstar
     Ortiz
     Oxley
     Packard
     Pappas
     Parker
     Paul
     Paxon
     Pease
     Peterson (MN)
     Peterson (PA)
     Petri
     Pitts
     Pombo
     Portman
     Poshard
     Quinn
     Radanovich
     Rahall
     Redmond
     Riggs
     Riley
     Roemer
     Rogan
     Rogers
     Rohrabacher
     Ros-Lehtinen
     Royce
     Ryun
     Salmon
     Sanford
     Saxton
     Scarborough
     Schaefer, Dan
     Schaffer, Bob
     Sensenbrenner
     Sessions
     Shadegg
     Shimkus
     Shuster
     Skeen
     Skelton
     Smith (NJ)
     Smith (OR)
     Smith (TX)
     Smith, Linda
     Snowbarger
     Solomon
     Souder
     Spence
     Stearns
     Stenholm
     Stump
     Stupak
     Sununu
     Talent
     Tauzin
     Taylor (MS)
     Taylor (NC)
     Thornberry
     Thune
     Tiahrt
     Traficant
     Walsh
     Wamp
     Watkins
     Watts (OK)
     Weldon (FL)
     Weldon (PA)
     Weller
     Weygand
     Whitfield
     Wicker
     Wolf
     Young (AK)
     Young (FL)

                             NOT VOTING--16

     Andrews
     Burton
     Davis (FL)
     Deutsch
     Diaz-Balart
     Farr
     Goode
     Jefferson
     Lantos
     McIntosh
     Neumann
     Nussle
     Pickering
     Schiff
     Smith (MI)
     Turner

                              {time}  1548

  So the amendment to the amendment was rejected.
  The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.


                          personal explanation

  Mr. DAVIS of Kansas. Mr. Chairman, on rollcall No. 167, I tried to 
record ``yes'' on this vote but the system did not register my vote. 
Please let the Record reflect I intended to vote ``yes'' on this 
amendment.


                          personal explanation

  Mr. SMITH of Michigan. Mr. Chairman, on rollcall No. 167, I was 
seconds late to cast my vote. Had I been present, I would have voted 
``no.''


                          personal explanation

  Mr. DIAZ-BALART. Mr. Chairman, on rollcall No. 167, the Campbell 
amendment to H.R. 1757, I was absent. Had I been present, I would have 
voted ``no.''
  The CHAIRMAN pro tempore (Mr. BARRETT of Nebraska). The question is 
on the amendment offered by the gentleman from New Jersey [Mr. Smith].
  The question was taken; and the Chairman pro tempore announced that 
the ayes appeared to have it.


                             Recorded Vote

  Mr. SMITH of New Jersey. Mr. Chairman, I demand a recorded vote.
  A recorded vote was ordered.
  The CHAIRMAN pro tempore. This will be a 5-minute vote.
  The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 232, 
noes 189, not voting 13, as follows:

                             [Roll No 168]

                               AYES--232

     Aderholt
     Archer
     Armey
     Bachus
     Baker
     Ballenger
     Barcia
     Barr
     Barrett (NE)
     Bartlett
     Barton
     Bateman
     Bereuter
     Berry
     Bilirakis
     Bliley
     Blunt
     Boehner
     Bonilla
     Bonior
     Bono
     Borski
     Brady
     Bryant
     Bunning
     Burr
     Burton
     Buyer
     Callahan
     Calvert
     Camp
     Canady
     Cannon
     Chabot
     Chambliss
     Chenoweth
     Christensen
     Coble
     Coburn
     Collins
     Combest
     Cook
     Cooksey
     Costello
     Cox
     Cramer
     Crane
     Crapo
     Cubin
     Cunningham
     Danner
     Deal
     DeLay
     Dickey
     Doolittle
     Doyle
     Dreier
     Duncan
     Dunn
     Ehlers
     Emerson
     English
     Ensign
     Everett
     Ewing
     Foley
     Forbes
     Fowler
     Fox
     Gallegly
     Ganske
     Gekas
     Gibbons
     Gillmor
     Goodlatte
     Goodling
     Goss
     Graham
     Granger
     Gutknecht
     Hall (OH)
     Hall (TX)
     Hamilton
     Hansen
     Hastert
     Hastings (WA)
     Hayworth
     Hefley
     Herger
     Hill
     Hilleary
     Hoekstra
     Holden
     Hostettler
     Hulshof
     Hunter
     Hutchinson
     Hyde
     Inglis
     Istook
     Jenkins
     John
     Johnson, Sam
     Jones
     Kanjorski
     Kaptur
     Kasich
     Kildee
     Kim
     King (NY)
     Kingston
     Kleczka
     Klink
     Knollenberg
     Kucinich
     LaFalce
     LaHood
     Largent
     Latham
     LaTourette
     Lewis (CA)
     Lewis (KY)
     Linder
     Lipinski
     Livingston
     LoBiondo
     Lucas
     Manton
     Manzullo
     Mascara
     McCollum
     McCrery
     McDade
     McHugh
     McInnis
     McIntosh
     McIntyre
     McKeon
     Metcalf
     Mica
     Miller (FL)
     Moakley
     Molinari
     Mollohan
     Moran (KS)
     Murtha
     Myrick
     Nethercutt
     Neumann
     Ney
     Northup
     Norwood
     Nussle
     Oberstar
     Obey
     Ortiz
     Oxley
     Packard
     Pappas
     Parker
     Paul
     Paxon
     Pease
     Peterson (MN)
     Petri
     Pitts
     Pombo
     Portman
     Poshard
     Quinn
     Radanovich
     Rahall
     Redmond
     Regula
     Riggs
     Riley
     Roemer
     Rogan
     Rogers
     Rohrabacher
     Ros-Lehtinen
     Royce
     Ryun
     Salmon
     Sanford
     Saxton
     Scarborough
     Schaefer, Dan
     Schaffer, Bob
     Sensenbrenner
     Sessions
     Shadegg
     Shaw
     Shimkus
     Shuster
     Skeen
     Skelton
     Smith (MI)
     Smith (NJ)
     Smith (OR)
     Smith (TX)
     Smith, Linda
     Snowbarger
     Solomon
     Souder
     Spence
     Stearns
     Stenholm
     Stump
     Stupak
     Sununu
     Talent
     Tauzin
     Taylor (MS)
     Taylor (NC)
     Thornberry
     Thune
     Tiahrt
     Traficant
     Walsh
     Wamp
     Watkins

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     Watts (OK)
     Weldon (FL)
     Weldon (PA)
     Weller
     Weygand
     Whitfield
     Wicker
     Wolf
     Young (AK)
     Young (FL)

                               NOES--189

     Abercrombie
     Ackerman
     Allen
     Baesler
     Baldacci
     Barrett (WI)
     Bass
     Becerra
     Bentsen
     Berman
     Bilbray
     Bishop
     Blagojevich
     Blumenauer
     Boehlert
     Boswell
     Boucher
     Boyd
     Brown (CA)
     Brown (FL)
     Brown (OH)
     Campbell
     Capps
     Cardin
     Carson
     Castle
     Clay
     Clayton
     Clement
     Clyburn
     Condit
     Conyers
     Coyne
     Cummings
     Davis (FL)
     Davis (IL)
     Davis (VA)
     DeFazio
     DeGette
     Delahunt
     DeLauro
     Dellums
     Dicks
     Dingell
     Dixon
     Doggett
     Dooley
     Edwards
     Ehrlich
     Engel
     Eshoo
     Etheridge
     Evans
     Fattah
     Fawell
     Fazio
     Filner
     Flake
     Foglietta
     Ford
     Frank (MA)
     Franks (NJ)
     Frelinghuysen
     Frost
     Furse
     Gejdenson
     Gephardt
     Gilchrest
     Gilman
     Gonzalez
     Gordon
     Green
     Greenwood
     Gutierrez
     Harman
     Hastings (FL)
     Hefner
     Hilliard
     Hinchey
     Hinojosa
     Hobson
     Hooley
     Horn
     Houghton
     Hoyer
     Jackson (IL)
     Jackson-Lee (TX)
     Johnson (CT)
     Johnson (WI)
     Johnson, E. B.
     Kelly
     Kennedy (MA)
     Kennedy (RI)
     Kennelly
     Kilpatrick
     Kind (WI)
     Klug
     Kolbe
     Lampson
     Lazio
     Leach
     Levin
     Lewis (GA)
     Lofgren
     Lowey
     Luther
     Maloney (CT)
     Maloney (NY)
     Markey
     Martinez
     McCarthy (MO)
     McCarthy (NY)
     McDermott
     McGovern
     McHale
     McKinney
     McNulty
     Meehan
     Meek
     Menendez
     Millender-McDonald
     Miller (CA)
     Minge
     Mink
     Moran (VA)
     Morella
     Nadler
     Neal
     Olver
     Owens
     Pallone
     Pascrell
     Pastor
     Payne
     Pelosi
     Pickett
     Pomeroy
     Porter
     Price (NC)
     Pryce (OH)
     Ramstad
     Rangel
     Reyes
     Rivers
     Rodriguez
     Rothman
     Roukema
     Roybal-Allard
     Rush
     Sabo
     Sanchez
     Sanders
     Sandlin
     Sawyer
     Schumer
     Scott
     Serrano
     Shays
     Sherman
     Sisisky
     Skaggs
     Slaughter
     Smith, Adam
     Snyder
     Spratt
     Stabenow
     Stark
     Stokes
     Strickland
     Tanner
     Tauscher
     Thomas
     Thompson
     Thurman
     Tierney
     Torres
     Towns
     Upton
     Velazquez
     Vento
     Visclosky
     Waters
     Watt (NC)
     Waxman
     Wexler
     Wise
     Woolsey
     Wynn
     Yates

                             NOT VOTING--13

     Andrews
     Deutsch
     Diaz-Balart
     Farr
     Goode
     Jefferson
     Lantos
     Matsui
     Peterson (PA)
     Pickering
     Schiff
     Turner
     White

                              {time}  1558

  Mr. FORD changed his vote from ``aye'' to ``no.''
  Mr. MOAKLEY changed his vote from ``no'' to ``aye.''
  So the amendment was agreed to.
  The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.


                          personal explanation

  Mr. PETERSON of Pennsylvania. Mr. Chairman, on rollcall No. 168, I 
was unavoidably detained and missed the vote by seconds. Had I been 
present, I would have voted ``yes.''


                          personal explanation

  Mr. DIAZ-BALART. Mr. Chairman, on rollcall No. 168, the Smith of New 
Jersey amendment to H.R. 1757, I was absent. Had I been present, I 
would have voted ``yes.''
  Mr. PAYNE. Mr. Chairman, I want to raise an issue in regard to the 
Foreign Relations Authorization Act.
  Sudan is located south of Egypt with its eastern boundary facing the 
Red Sea. It is one of the largest countries in Africa in terms of 
geographical area, approximately the size of one quarter of the United 
States with a population of some 29 million people.
  Almost from the very time of independence from Britain and Egypt in 
1956 the country has been divided by ethnic and religious differences. 
The largely Arabic Muslim North against the Sub-Sahara African 
Christian and Animist South.
  Guerilla warfare in the south has persisted for at least 32 years of 
their 41 years of independence. But, not until 1983 when the Sudan 
People's Liberation Army [SPLA] was created were substantial gains made 
in capturing towns from the control of the Khartoum Northern 
Government. The SPLA is under the leadership of Col. John Garang, a 
military officer, trained in the United States.
  Following the 1989 coup, the relative free press was put under strict 
censorship.
  I say all of this because the geostrategic importance of the Sudan is 
vital to our national interest. And Sudan's stability is vital to the 
region's stability. I too support sanctions which our administration 
already has put on them. Economic sanctions, military sanctions, visa 
restrictions on the government and its forces should be enforced; 
however, this places restrictions on humanitarian assistance that 
affects the poor and the innocent.
  I went to southern Sudan in January of this year and meet with John 
Garang, the leader of the Sudanese Peoples Liberation Movement in the 
south and they seem to be conquering much of the northern territory.
  As much as I believe that the Sudanese Government should not operate 
with immunity, we can not at this time in good faith cancel all the 
assistance to the men, women, and children that so badly need this. I 
agree that we should use sticks with the Sudan in that they have 
exhausted all of their carrot options. Yet this is not a stick, this 
hurts. It hurts the wrong people.
  Mr. RADANOVICH. Mr. Chairman, thank you for the opportunity to stand 
beside Mr. Pallone in offering this important amendment to H.R. 1757, 
the Foreign Affairs Authorization Act.
  As with everything we do in this House, expenditures for foreign aid 
must be evaluated to ensure fiscal discipline. H.R. 1757 makes great 
strides toward reducing wasteful spending, and proposes to make a vital 
shift in how the United States meets its foreign policy challenges.
  One of the significant shifts will be to improve the operations of 
the State Department by consolidating into its structure two Federal 
agencies--the U.S. Information Agency and the Arms Control Disarmament 
Agency. As we proceed with these long overdue changes in the U.S. 
foreign affairs establishment, we must not lose sight of our Nation's 
ability to affect change abroad. The United States must remain engaged 
and sensitive to our strategic interests in ambitious but fragile 
democracies like Armenia.
  Armenia finds itself at a crossroads. The young republic is in a 
delicate rebuilding process and struggles to reconstruct itself after 
having its growth impeded by harmful policies of the former Soviet 
Union. Armenia is striving to establish the type of government and 
free-market economy which will enable it to more easily integrate 
itself into the region. Regional integration in the Caucasus is of 
vital importance of U.S. foreign policy. Integration will yield 
additional economic stability for the region and help it to become a 
more attractive sector for U.S. investment. We must take action which 
facilitates the process.
  Therefore, Mr. Chairman, I am, with Congressman Pallone, offering 
this reasonable amendment which encourages the President to seek 
cooperation from the governments of Armenia, Azerbaijan, and Turkey, as 
well as private companies with an interest in developing Azerbaijan's 
Caspian Sea petroleum reserves.
  This amendment serves to encourage the construction of a pipeline 
route from Azerbaijan through Armenia. This pipeline would likely 
extend to Turkey and Mediterranean sea ports. No doubt, such an effort 
will improve relations between the neighboring countries by spreading 
the seeds of cooperation. The venture will serve the overall objectives 
the United States has for peace and prosperity in this region.
  I encourage my colleagues to support this amendment.
  Mr. FARR of California. Mr. Chairman, as the House of Representatives 
debates the Foreign Relations Authorization Act, I wish to raise 
several issues that I believe deserve our close attention.
  We must not neglect foreign affairs. As a former Peace Corps 
volunteer, I have seen first hand the tremendous need of people in 
other countries for basic assistance, and the enormous value of even 
our most modest assistance programs overseas. Unfortunately, our 
foreign assistance budget has suffered severely in our efforts to 
balance the budget. Development aid, disaster assistance, hunger and 
malnutrition programs, educational assistance, conflict resolution, and 
medical aid have all been cut drastically over the past several years, 
with serious consequences for the poorest and neediest people of the 
world.
  I especially urge that we maintain our support of the United Nations. 
Although our country's many complaints about the United Nations receive 
the most attention, we rarely hear of the United Nation's tremendous 
good work: peacekeeping, assistance to children, conflict resolution, 
nuclear non-proliferation, and development assistance are just a few. 
Part of our support must include repaying our enormous debt to the 
United Nations, and I urge my colleagues to work to meet our unpaid 
U.N. obligations.
  I also urge that we keep our focus on Latin America. Although the 
area has made great progress in democratization and free elections, 
less attention has been paid to the increasing problem of human rights 
abuses. Colombia and southern Mexico are just two areas where 
increasing militarization has led to greater violence and has put 
serious political and social pressure on local governments. We should 
give close examination to this problem and determine ways that the 
United States can help these countries demilitarize and reduce the 
level of violence.
  Unfortunately, as in past years, this year's bill has become a battle 
over a woman's right

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to choose. I must express my strong opposition to any amendments to 
this bill that would restrict the reproductive rights of women or, in 
an attempt to do so, limit or end all funding for international family 
planning. Earlier this year, a majority of the House recognized the 
importance of family planning to the health and welfare of our planet 
and voted to maintain U.S. family planning programs. Let us not go back 
on our own commitment to these important programs.
  I thank my colleagues in the House and look forward to working with 
them to address these important issues.
  Mr. GILMAN. Mr. Chairman, I move that the Committee do now rise.
  The motion was agreed to.
  Accordingly the Committee rose; and the Speaker pro tempore (Mr. 
Barrett of Nebraska) having assumed the chair, Mr. LaHood, Chairman pro 
tempore of the Committee of the Whole House on the State of the Union, 
reported that that Committee, having had under consideration the bill 
(H.R. 1757) to consolidate international affairs agencies, to authorize 
appropriations for the Department of State and related agencies for 
fiscal years 1998 and 1999, and for other purposes, had come to no 
resolution thereon.

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