[Congressional Record Volume 143, Number 60 (Friday, May 9, 1997)]
[Senate]
[Pages S4261-S4267]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]




                   THE FAMILY FRIENDLY WORKPLACE ACT

  Mr. KENNEDY. Madam President, I welcome the opportunity to make some 
brief comments on the measures which are before us here this morning, 
and that is on the legislation which is, allegedly, the family friendly 
workplace legislation. I will just take a brief time, but I want, just 
at the outset, to indicate where we are in terms of working families in 
this country.
  We have made important progress in the last Congress in increasing 
the minimum wage.
  It was not long ago that we made real progress in trying to provide 
employees who have worked over a long period of time in a plant or a 
factory with notification when there was going to be a plant closing, 
so that men and women who worked years, for some a lifetime, in a 
particular plant would not show up on Monday and find the doors boarded 
up. In the past, individuals like these were often virtually cast out 
into the dark without any kind of notification whatsoever. We tried to 
give, at least for the larger companies that were included in that 
legislation, notice to the employees so that they would be treated more 
respectfully and have more time to find a new job. That law has worked 
very well despite the dire predictions of some in the U.S. Senate.
  Then we had the battle on family and medical leave which gives 
parents who have a sick child the opportunity to take unpaid leave. 
Every other industrial nation in the world has paid leave under those 
circumstances, yet it took a lengthy battle in the U.S. Senate to get 
unpaid leave. We were able to pass it for employers with 50 or more 
employees. I will come back to that issue in just a few moments. That 
battle was led by our friend and colleague, Senator Dodd of 
Connecticut. I welcomed the chance to join with him on that. It was a 
5-year battle in the Senate. Twelve million Americans have taken 
advantage of it, the law has worked very well and most Americans wonder 
why it took us so long.
  Those are just three examples of issues, Madam President, which we 
have fought for on behalf of working men and women. There have been 
many others. What is so interesting is that in each and every one of 
those battles, we faced opposition from the National Association of 
Manufacturers; the Labor Policy Association, which is comprised of many 
different companies and employers; the National Restaurant Association; 
and the NFIB. It is very interesting that now on the floor of the U.S. 
Senate, on legislation that is supposed to protect workers, those four 
organizations are trying to portray themselves as friends of the 
worker.

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  It is very interesting that those groups, and many others that have 
opposed every single protection for workers in the past, are embracing 
S. 4 and are now suddenly going to protect all the employees in 
America.
  As we begin this debate, I think it is worthwhile to examine those 
that are for this legislation and those who are critical of this 
particular legislation. We should ask who has credibility as advocates 
for America's workers and who does not. This bill has been described by 
its authors as ``a Mother's Day gift to America's working women.'' 
Nothing could be further from the truth. It is a Mother's Day hoax. A 
more appropriate description would be the ``Employer Choice and 
Paycheck Reduction Act,'' and it has four fatal flaws.
  First, it would result in a pay cut for many working families. The 
bill eliminates the guarantee of pay for overtime work for 65 million 
employees. Many of them are already struggling to make ends meet. 
Nearly half of those who earn overtime pay have a total income of 
$16,000 a year or less. More than 80 percent of them earn under $28,000 
a year. Employees could allocate all overtime work to employees who 
agree to accept time off instead of extra pay for working overtime. 
Those who insist on receiving overtime pay will no longer get overtime 
work.
  Second, the bill provides no employee choice. Let me repeat that, 
because that is the heart, I think, of this whole debate: Will the 
employee have the right to make the decision to take time off when he 
or she needs it, to go with a child to that school meeting or to that 
play or to the dentist appointment? Or will the employer have the 
ultimate authority and power to say no?
  Under the terms of S. 4, the employer is given the power to dictate 
when workers can use comptime. S. 4 would not let working mothers 
choose when to take their hard-earned comptime. That is the key to what 
is wrong with this bill. It is the heart of the debate: Where is the 
power, who determines when the employee can use the comptime which has 
been earned. This bill provides no employee choice.

  Third, the bill will cut benefits for many workers; because it does 
not count hours of comptime as hours worked. Health and retirement 
benefits are widely based on the number of hours worked by employees. 
But under the Republican bill, comptime hours do not count as hours 
worked. As a result, employees can lose eligibility for health coverage 
while they are working, and lose eligibility for pension benefits when 
they retire.
  And fourth, the Republican proposal effectively abolishes the 40-hour 
workweek. An employer can literally require employees to work up to 80 
hours in a single week without overtime pay. As long as the 2-week 
total does not exceed 80 hours, the workers would not be entitled to 
extra pay. A company can schedule a worker for 60 hours in one week, 
and 20 in the next, all without a penny of overtime pay. That is hardly 
a gift to working mothers, forcing them to try to arrange child care to 
coincide with such an erratic work schedule.
  Madam President, I will just take a moment or two this morning to 
talk about the issue of employee choice. I have listened to the 
eloquent remarks of our friends and colleagues who are supporting this 
proposal. Talk is pretty cheap around here, and it is important that we 
look at the legislative language.
  The bill gives employees, as I mentioned, no right to use the 
comptime when he or she needs it. Instead, the bill makes it easy for 
employers to discourage the use of the comptime during the busy periods 
on the job. The bill says this, Madam President: ``The employee shall 
be permitted to use comptime within a reasonable period after making 
the request if the use of comptime off does not unduly disrupt the 
operations of the employer.''
  The employer gets to decide what is a ``reasonable period'' and what 
``unduly disrupt'' means. The bill does not define those terms. The 
employer, not the employee, makes those judgments. In practice, for 
example, the employee cannot use comptime to go to the school play the 
next afternoon if the employer decides that the employee has not asked 
far enough in advance. Another example, if the employee plans to take a 
child to a dentist appointment during a school vacation, the employer 
can refuse to let the employee use the comptime for that purpose on the 
grounds that the absence would unduly disrupt the employer's business.
  Madam President, the bill also provides no penalty, no enforcement. 
Unless you provide a remedy, you are not giving a right. We have seen 
that time and time again. The bill provides no penalty at all if the 
employer violates this reasonable period/unduly disrupt standard--none.
  If the employer unreasonably denies the employee's request to use the 
comptime, the employee has no recourse. We will hear how in the 
legislation there is going to be a balance between the employer and the 
employee, and the terms will have been agreed upon before the parties. 
But, in reality, that is not the case. We will get back to that in the 
course of the debate.
  One of the problems in the bill is that it can be an oral agreement. 
The employer can say, ``Look, we had an agreement, this employee wanted 
to have time off later on. Don't you remember our conversation around 
the water cooler? You don't remember it? I remember it.'' And the 
employee has the burden of challenging that representation.
  Contrast this with the Family and Medical Leave Act. Under that law, 
if the employer denies the worker's request to take family leave, the 
worker can recover damages, including money spent on child care, 
compensatory damages and the like. The supporters of S. 4 say the 
unduly disrupt standard comes from the Family and Medical Leave Act. 
That is what they say. ``Senator, you don't really understand, the 
unduly disrupt standard is the same language as the Family and Medical 
Leave Act.''
  This is not true, Madam President. The FMLA has two types of medical 
leave, unforeseen serious illness and foreseeable medical treatment. 
For the unforeseen illness, such as hepatitis, pneumonia, or the like, 
the employee has a right to take up to 12 weeks of unpaid medical 
leave. Any disruption to the employer's operation is irrelevant. The 
employee makes the judgment.

  For foreseeable medical treatment, such as elective surgery or 
removal of wisdom teeth, the employee retains the right to take the 
medical leave, but the employee must make a reasonable effort to 
schedule the treatment at a time that does not unduly disrupt the 
employer's operation. If the employee's reasonable efforts fail, the 
worker can still take the time for the surgery. The decision is made by 
the employee under the Family and Medical Leave Act. It has worked and 
worked well. I will come back to that when we have more of a chance to 
debate this. We will go through family and medical leave act and the 
evaluations of it demonstrating that there have not been abuses. 
However, under S. 4 just the opposite is done. The employer makes the 
final judgment on when the comptime can be used.
  The Ashcroft unduly disrupt language differs from the Family and 
Medical Leave Act standard in critical ways. First of all, the Ashcroft 
language gives no right to the employee to take comptime under any 
circumstances, even for unforeseen illness or other uncontrollable 
events. The employer can deny a worker's request to use the comptime if 
a child's babysitter calls in sick at the last moment, docking the 
employee's pay even if she has comptime in the bank. This does not help 
the working families.
  Second, the Ashcroft language deletes the requirement that workers 
make only a reasonable effort to schedule time off so it will not 
unduly disrupt an employer's operation.
  For example, a waitress makes a reasonable effort to schedule her 
child's immunization for the week after Christmas when the restaurant 
business is slow, but the doctor is on vacation that week. The waitress 
wants to use comptime to get the immunization the week after New 
Year's. The employer says no, citing that it will be unduly disruptive. 
The worker does not use comptime, and the child does not get immunized. 
This is not family friendly. This is an outrage.
  Let's talk about who these hourly workers are. They are the workers 
at the lower rung of the economic ladder.

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 Sixty percent of them have only a high school education. Eighty 
percent of them make less than $28,000. A great percentage of them are 
single mothers with children who are depending on that overtime. Many 
of them are already having trouble making ends meet. They need every 
dollar they can earn to support their families.
  The extraordinary comment which a witness from the NFIB made at the 
February 13, 1997 Labor Committee hearing proves that the real goal of 
the business advocates of this bill is to reduce the pay of these 
vulnerable workers:

       [Small businesses] can't afford to pay their employees 
     overtime. This is something they can offer in exchange that 
     gives them a benefit.

  This statement is so harsh and blunt that even supporters of the bill 
have been embarrassed by it, and they are attempting to retract it.
  That says it all, Madam President. When you take away all of the 
rhetoric, that says it all. They do not want to pay hard-working 
Americans who are at the lower rung of the economic ladder overtime. 
That is what this bill is about--not giving the employee the 
opportunity to make the choice, but giving it to the employer. The 
employer has the whip hand under the provisions of S. 4.
  There is a dramatic difference between the flexible credit hour 
provisions applicable to Federal employees in title 5, United States 
Code, and in the flexible credit hour provisions of S. 4.

       The credit hours mean any hours within a flexible schedule 
     which are in excess of the employee's basic workweek which 
     the employee elects to work so as to vary the length of the 
     workweek or workday.

  With Federal employees, who makes the judgment? Is it the employee 
and the employer? It is the employee who makes it with regard to the 
Federal employees. But, that is not the case with S. 4's credit hour 
program. Under this provision, the final say as to when an employee can 
take the time off rests with the employer.
  The heart of the section, page 13, lines 12 through 17, these lines 
provide: ``An employee shall be compensated for flexible hours at the 
employee's regular rate.'' That is, an employee that works 45 hours in 
a week can take 5 hours of flexible credit time at some point in the 
future.
  This, too, is a pay cut. Current law would require the worker to get 
paid time-and-a-half for those 5 hours. But this bill would compensate 
a worker at the straight-time rate for those hours.
  That is another section we will have an opportunity, Madam President, 
to get into in greater detail.
  But the idea that this is giving to the working moms the kind of 
flexibility to meet responsibilities is a hoax.
  What would do it is Senator Murray's amendment to the Family and 
Medical Leave Act to give up to 24 hours of leave per year to be used 
at the employee's discretion. This would allow employees to go to a 
teacher's conference, take their child to the dentist, or go to the 
Christmas play that their children are involved in.
  But Senator Murray's amendment was defeated on a party-line vote in 
the committee. ``No way we're going to take that, Senator Murray. No 
way we're going to let them have 24 hours where the employee--the 
employee--is going to make the decision. No. We're not going to do 
that. No way.'' We are talking about only 24 hours a year. But the 
Republicans say no. We are not going to do that. That is not 
acceptable. We will not include that provision in this bill. We are not 
going to do that for those workers.
  The Republicans are not even going to say to the employees of smaller 
businesses--those with 25 to 50 employees--that they too are entitled 
to the benefits of family and medical leave. This applies to 13 million 
Americans not currently covered by FMLA. They must continue to choose 
between the needs of their family and the demands of their employer. 
No, said the majority, we are not going to give the employees that kind 
of right. Senator Dodd's amendment would lower the threshold of the 
FMLA to apply to employers with at least 25 employees. But the 
Repubicans said, ``No.'' Let us really do something today that can make 
a difference for these workers as it already has for more than 12 
million Americans, mothers and fathers that have used the leave because 
they had a sick child.
  Everyone in this body knows that if you have a parent or a loved one 
that cares for a child who is ill, that child recovers at about 40 to 
50 percent faster than if the child is just isolated and trying to 
recover on his or her own. That is one of the principal reasons for 
family and medical leave--unpaid family medical leave.
  But when we tried with Senator Dodd to reduce the eligibility 
threshold, the Republicans said no way. And they said no to the Murray 
amendment for 24 hours to give the employee the opportunity to attend a 
school event.
  We have to ask ourselves, Madam President, at the beginning of this 
debate, whose side are we on? Whose side are we on? Who are we going to 
say is really protecting the interests and the rights of workers? Is it 
those people who have stood up time and time again on plant closing 
legislation to protect workers, minimum wage, family and medical leave? 
Or are we going to believe that business groups and organizations that 
have opposed every one of those programs for workers are suddenly 
undergoing a conversion and are sincerely interested in employee well-
being?

  Madam President, we will have a chance at a later time to examine in 
detail the other provisions of this legislation. I would just hope as 
we celebrate this Mother's Day, we will tell the truth to America's 
working mothers. S. 4 is a cruel hoax. It will not provide you the time 
off you need when you need it.
  Finally, I would just ask, Madam President, who are the ones that are 
really benefiting from the overtime? About 80 percent of those that 
receive overtime pay are employees that are making less than $28,000 a 
year, and trying to take care of their families. Most of them want to 
work overtime so they can earn the extra pay to look after their kids. 
Let us not lose sight of that.
  Madam President, this is a pay cut bill. This is a pay cut bill.
  Last year, we had 147,000 decisions made by the NLRB about violations 
of even paying overtime. Over $100 million in back wages awarded by the 
Labor Department to workers in 1996. You can imagine if we pass S. 4, 
what do you think they are going to do? You have half the garment shops 
in this country today who are not paying the minimum wage and not 
paying overtime. Industries with records like that cannot be trusted 
with the kind of power this bill would give them.
  So, Madam President, I look forward to this debate, because I believe 
what we have seen in recent years is a growing disparity between the 
resources of those at the top level versus those struggling Americans 
who are the heart and soul of the country--the men and women that clean 
these buildings, clean the companies, are teachers' aides and are 
working in nursing homes and health assistance. They are barely able to 
make it with overtime. We cannot in good conscience take that overtime 
pay away from them.
  I thank the Chair.
  Mr. ASHCROFT addressed the Chair.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. Gregg). The Senator from Missouri is 
recognized.
  Mr. ASHCROFT. Thank you, Mr. President.
  I am pleased we have had the opportunity to begin the debate on the 
Family Friendly Workplace Act. The Senator from Massachusetts has 
referred to this act as a hoax, and indicated that it would not be in 
the best interest of workers. Frankly, it is troublesome to me to find 
that kind of disconnect with what is happening to workers, because I 
have letters from people who are having a tough time making time for 
their families and making time for their jobs. These workers want us to 
address this important issue. Particularly, mothers--who are in the 
work force in increasingly high numbers--need to have flexibility so in 
order to meet the needs of their families, financially by being in the 
workplace, and emotionally by being able to spend time with their 
families.
  There are a couple--as a matter of fact, there are a whole series of 
things that the Senator from Massachusetts stated which are 
substantially inaccuracies as it relates to the bill.
  The suggestion, for instance there is no employee choice. This bill 
is predicated upon employee choice. There is

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no ability of any employer to impose anything on any employee contained 
in this bill. The provisions of this bill are available only--only and 
exclusively--when the employee agrees. If the employer so much as 
suggests that the employee work overtime--the employee would be 
entitled to overtime compensation at one-and-one-half times the 
employees regular rate of pay. Any time the employer goes to an 
employee and asks for additional time beyond the 40-hour week it is 
automatically overtime.
  The difference in this bill is that the employee would have the 
chance to say, ``You know, I would like to take time-and-a-half 
sometime instead of being paid overtime for this work because I'm 
having such a tough time spending enough time with my family.'' That is 
employee choice.
  The Senator went through a long and rather arduous explanation about 
how that was not employee choice. The truth of the matter is, if the 
employee--at any time after the employee has opted for compensatory 
time--if the employee decides, ``well, I think I want the money 
instead, the second level of employee choice arises.'' That is, the 
choice to change his or her mind.
  Employees are not just endowed with the choice originally to ask for 
compensatory time. If an agreement has been reached that compensatory 
time will be allowed, then a second option comes to the employee, the 
option to say, ``Well, I don't think I really wanted to take the time 
off after all. Give me the money.'' You still have the money. This 
suggestion that there are no employee choices in this bill is simply 
not borne out by the bill itself.

  For instance, if the employer asks that the extra time be worked, if 
there is extra time that comes as a result of a request by the 
employer, or if the request is initiated by the employer, it is 
automatically overtime.
  One interesting case that came up really stunned me. During the 
winter of 1996, the Washington, DC area had a big, heavy snowstorm. A 
woman named Arlyce Robinson spoke before the Labor and Human Resources 
and testified that she was called on a Friday morning and told not to 
come to work due to the heavy snowfall. Therefore, Arlyce, along with 
all of her coworkers missed 1 day of work and suffered a 20-percent 
decrease in her salary. She and a couple hundred other people at her 
plant wanted to have that money. They needed the money--their fuel 
bills were going up because of the severe winter. They wanted, during 
the following week, to add 1 hour and 40 minutes a day to their work 
schedule so they could make up for the Friday missed. The current laws 
make it illegal for the employer to allow them to work that extra hour 
and 40 minutes on each of the days the next week in order to make up 
for the time lost on Friday.
  The Senator from Massachusetts is correct, these people are the 
poorest of the people that are working by the hour. They are suffering 
financial stress. If the employer is willing to let them work 
additional hours to make that up, what does the law say? The law says 
it is illegal, we cannot allow that to happen. Our bill would allow the 
employer to let that happen, allow the employer to say you can make up 
time or you can make up time in advance. You can bank flexible hours in 
order to ameliorate these stresses--these stresses that attend the work 
of the most needy of the workers.
  The Senator from Massachusetts kept asking the rhetorical question, 
who are we for? I tell you who we are for; we are for the working 
people here. Guess who already has flextime? The guys in the boardroom 
already have flextime. The guys with the paneled offices already have 
flextime. They never have to worry if they need to take time off to 
watch their son or daughter get an award at the high school.
  When Arlyce Robinson came to talk to us about this bill, she said she 
needed to have time off during the day occasionally to attend those 
responsibilities of her four grandchildren. She said, ``More and more, 
the extracurricular activities are in the daytime because it is safer 
for people to go to extracurricular activities in the daytime, safer 
for the kids if they are scheduled in the day,'' and she wanted to see 
one of her grandchildren play in sports or do other things.
  The guys in the boardroom with the walnut-paneled walls can take the 
time off. The supervisors paid on salary can take the time off. The 
folks who work for the Federal Government have flextime already. We 
have flextime for far more people than those who do not. There are 
about 79 million people in this country who are eligible for flextime 
while the people at the bottom end of the ladder--people who need to be 
able to spend time with their kids--who are trying to make ends meet, 
families where both parents have to be in the work force in order to 
have enough money to make ends meet. This group who does not have 
access to flexible work arrangments includes a large number of the most 
stressed people in this culture--the single parents who must spend the 
time working, they are the ones who desperately need flexible 
schedules.
  Whose side are we on? I tell you whose side we are on. We are not on 
the side of the guys who already have it. Sure, we are glad that 
Federal workers have flextime. If you interview the Federal workers, 
they tell you how well it works. Federal workers interviewed by the 
General Accounting Office--this is not a polling firm going out to get 
one result or another. The chairman of the committee, who has been so 
good in pushing this bill forward, knows the General Accounting Office 
is a governmental agency that just wants to get to the facts and the 
truth. They interviewed the hourly workers at the Federal Government 
who have basically the same components of this plan. What do they say? 
Mr. President, by a 10-to-1 ratio they say, ``This is great. We like 
this. We want this.'' That is whose side we are on.

  The Senator from Massachusetts suggests that the 40-hour work week is 
abolished. I do not know how you can read this bill and come to the 
conclusion that the 40-hour week is abolished. Everything in this bill 
is voluntary. Anyone who does not want to agree--and it takes the 
agreement of both the employer and the employee--cannot be forced to 
working such schedules.
  The single most popular program for Federal workers, the 2.9 million 
Federal workers in the country that enjoy this provision, is the 
ability to take a weekday off every other week so every other Friday or 
every other Monday is off.
  That means if they need to take a child to a doctor or schedule 
things, if they want to go fishing, hunting, or take a day of vacation 
with their children, it is something they can do. It is something they 
can do on their own without taking a pay cut.
  This does not empower employers to demand it. It empowers workers, if 
they can cooperate with their employers, to get it. No employer can 
mandate any provision in this bill. It is that simple. If the employer 
is not cooperating to give people time off the way they would otherwise 
want the time off, what is the choice of the worker? The worker can 
immediately say, ``Give me the money.'' This bill allows the worker to 
cash in any of the banked benefits or compensatory time benefits at any 
time.
  In case someone is worried--we do not want anything that would not 
protect the worker. We have gone to great lengths, we have doubled the 
penalties for abuses under the bill. We have said that at any time the 
employee wants the money instead of the time, they can automatically 
call for it. We have said that at the end of the year if the time has 
not been taken, give them the money. In every respect, any time this is 
not working, the current law prevails, the money is paid at regular 
overtime rates, individuals fall back to the normal 40-hour week. This 
is a voluntary measure.
  Some strange suggestion was made that because this was not exactly 
like family and medical leave, it did not have merit. I would like to 
ask those who would make that argument, like the Senator from 
Massachusetts, whether he believe that this abolishes family and 
medical leave? Every benefit that is available to people under family 
and medical leave will continue to be available to them. After this is 
enacted, after this is signed by the President, people will still have 
family and medical leave, so that all of the obligations available to 
them under that setting and in that situation still will be available 
to them. This is simply an additional way for people to accommodate the 
needs of their families.

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  I do not think we would be getting the kind of letters we are; I do 
not think we would have Working Women's magazine, Working Mother 
magazine say, ``Get this done.'' I do not think newspapers like the New 
York Times, the Chicago Tribune would be endorsing this proposal. I do 
not think we would have people asking us to do something if family and 
medical leave were all that people wanted. This bill does not repeal or 
adjust or otherwise diminish family and medical leave. It simply says 
there are flexibilities that workers need in addition to that.
  There are differences between this and family and medical leave, and 
one of those differences is something that hard working Americans will 
really appreciate. The biggest single difference between this measure 
and family and medical leave is that family and medical leave has 
people taking time off without pay. I think most people would rather 
try to plan their schedules and develop the capacity to make up for 
things in advance so they did not have to take a pay cut every time 
they wanted to take some time off. I think that the people of the 
United States of America really want to be good moms and dads without 
taking a pay cut, because in a very strange way, whenever you take the 
pay cut, you impair your ability to be the kind of parent you want to 
be. Most people have both spouses working so they can meet the 
financial needs of their families. If meeting the needs of your family 
for time means you have less capacity to meet the need of your family 
for finances, it creates undue stress. This is a stress reduction 
matter. I am surprised that the Senator would indicate that somehow 
this competes with family and medical leave. This adds to the options 
of American workers.

  Sure, they are different. There are different standards for this 
iteration or that iteration. The primary difference is that this does 
not require you to take a pay cut to take time off. Family and medical 
leave simply requires you to take a pay cut to take time off.
  It is appropriate we will be getting this bill to the floor. We will 
have the full range of debate on it. It is important we be engaged on 
this matter. I think it is important we understand that workers need 
something more than what we already have. Workers are feeling this 
tension.
  I look at today's Washington Times, and it contains an article that 
said ``Moms of Today Don't Think They Are Doing As Good As Our Own 
Moms, Poll Says.'' I think we all sense the stresses of modern day 
life. It recounts a study that says a substantial number of moms today 
just feel that ``We really have a lot of juggling to do and 
unfortunately * * * our children suffer because of what we have to do * 
* * to maintain a living.'' ``We are doing a worse job than our mothers 
did.'' Well, I think mothers are doing a valiant job, but people are 
feeling the pressure.
  The study also found more than half the mothers who worked full time 
were burdened with time pressures and trying to balance motherhood with 
other aspects of their lives. ``Some of the pressures cited by mothers 
include trying to be in three places at once, making sure they get 
everything done without being stressed out and having enough time for 
themselves.''
  Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent the article from the 
Washington Times regarding mothers be printed in the Record.
  There being no objection, the material was ordered to be printed in 
the Record, as follows:

                [From the Washington Times, May 9, 1997]

 Mothers of Today Don't Think They're Doing as Good as Own Moms, Poll 
                                  Says

       Saundra Watson is a successful professional who has raised 
     a well-adjusted 18-year-old son.
       Still, she is often racked by guilt because she's not there 
     for him when he returns from school to ask how his day was, 
     go over his homework with him and eat dinner with him.
       ``We really have a lot of juggling to do and unfortunately 
     . . . our children suffer somewhat because of what we have to 
     do . . . to maintain a living,'' said Mrs. Watson, 42, an 
     accounting manager. ``We're doing a worse job than our 
     mothers did.''
       Mrs. Watson is not alone in thinking that way. According to 
     a study released yesterday, just before Mother's Day weekend, 
     56 percent of the women surveyed think their mothers were 
     better parents than they are.
       But on a more cheerful note, most mothers said they are 
     mostly or very satisfied with the job they're doing raising 
     their children.
       The study by the Pew Research Center questioned 1,101 
     women, 74 percent of them mothers. Of the total sample 42 
     percent were employed full time, 15 percent part time, 21 
     percent retired and 22 percent not employed outside the home. 
     The study has a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage 
     points.
       The researchers found that the problems and challenges 
     faced by 1990s moms are related to changes in the lives of 
     women and the evolution of the American family.
       Mrs. Watson agrees.
       ``I think that parenting has somewhat taken a back seat to 
     our lives and that should not be,'' said Mrs. Watson. ``A lot 
     of kids are somewhat having to raise themselves.''
       According to the survey, a large proportion of the women 
     favored more traditional family settings.
       Only 17 percent said most divorced couples who split 
     custody of their children can do a good job of parenting; and 
     fewer than 30 percent said most single mothers, stepmothers 
     and couples in which both parents work full time can do a 
     good job.
       The study also found that more than half the mothers who 
     worked full time were burdened with time pressures and trying 
     to balance motherhood with other aspects of their lives 
     compared with 18 percent of mothers who work part time or not 
     at all.
       Some of the pressures cited by mothers include trying to be 
     in three places at once, making sure they get everything done 
     without being stressed out and having enough time for 
     themselves.
       But the survey found that disciplining children is a 
     problem all mothers face whether or not they work outside the 
     house.
       Despite the guilt, the self-recrimination and the worry, 
     Mrs. Watson says, being a mother ``is definitely worth it.''

  Mr. ASHCROFT. This sensitivity is not just felt in polls. It is felt 
in the lives of real individuals. With this Mother's Day weekend in 
view, I will take you through the life of a mother who came to testify 
on this bill. Her job was incredible. People talk about overtime work. 
As far as I am concerned, there is not a mother in the United States of 
America who does not work overtime. I have observed only two mothers 
very closely, my own mother, and my wife, who is the mother of our 
three kids, and working overtime is an understatement. I am sure the 
chairman would agree. It is work all the time. I think it is important 
to provide some flexibility.
  Let me give a little schedule out of the life of Christine 
Korzendorfer, an executive assistant in a TRW's northern Virginia 
office, is one of the individuals who came to talk about the need for 
flexible working arrangements. This is Christine's picture here.
  She gets up at 5:30 in the morning and gets herself together by 
showering and dressing. About 6:30, she gets up her 2-year-old son, 
Ryan, to give him breakfast, yogurt and bananas.
  Those were the days, I remember them, and I am sure the Senator from 
Vermont remembers them. It is one thing to coax a child to eat, but if 
the child decides he is not going to eat, it can ruin your whole day. 
You better be well protected or poorly dressed. You are at the child's 
mercy if he decides not to eat.
  At 6:30 you put the yogurt and bananas together, feed the toddler, 
and you may have to bathe the toddler. I know Christine says she bathes 
the kid before he goes to bed at night, but sometimes a 2-year-old has 
to be bathed again in the morning. Then the 14-year-old in the 
household wakes up. So then from 7 to 7:15--after getting up at 5:30, a 
6:30 feeding, getting up the 2-year-old and helping the 14-year-old get 
things together. At 7 or 7:15 in the morning, strap Ryan into the baby 
seat of the van and drive to the day care center. Of course, you have 
to leave your 14-year-old, at that point, with the right instructions 
and asking for the personal discipline on her part to get ready to go 
to junior high. Christine gets to the day care center and has to partly 
undress the kid she just dressed a short time ago. He is anxious about 
leaving his mom. Christine has to start distracting him, showing him 
something or another that might capture his attention, quiet him as 
much as possible before kissing him goodbye and sneaking out. And 
sometimes the sneak doesn't work. We have all been there, where the 
child clings. We have all had the scratches on the back of our necks or 
on our faces from a child who simply doesn't want to be left. Then, 
from 7:15 from 8 a.m. Christine drives to work. At work, she 
immediately is thrust into the day, sifting through, organizing.

  For Christine, an easy workday is from 8 to 4. She loves her job. Her 
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doing what they need to do, and she works hard to keep from being 
burned out. She eats lunch on the job, with ordered-in food from a 
fast-food chain. At 3:30, her daughter, Jennifer, the 14-year-old, gets 
home from school before Christine even leaves work. So she tries to get 
a call from her daughter. She would like to be home, but she cannot be, 
so she is sort of making up. The stress is there, but she is at least 
checking by phone. On the easy day, she drives home between 4 and 5 
o'clock, picks up Ryan, straps him back into the seat. Sometimes--very 
often--she has to work overtime, but when she doesn't, she arrives home 
at 5 o'clock. Everybody wants a snack right off the bat. They are too 
impatient to wait for dinner. The snacks come first and then the dinner 
begins. Her husband plays with Ryan in the yard; dinner is at 6. Then 
Ryan wants to go back outside and play while mom is cleaning up the 
kitchen. Christine bathes Ryan, maybe, for a second time during the 
day, and everybody tries to go to bed in time to get up again at 5:30 
in the morning.
  All the errands are run on the weekends, which really makes it tough 
because, in that setting, the time we would normally have for repose, 
relaxation, and recovery is spent grocery shopping, clothes shopping, 
running around. The one thing that interrupts the schedule is when the 
junior high student needs the assistance of a parent with homework, and 
it often means that a couple extra hours are injected.
  According to Christine, her daughter Jennifer had to have oral 
surgery a couple of weeks ago. Christine had to take unpaid leave on 
Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday afternoon to take care of Jennifer at 
home. And because Christine has a lot of overtime--we have said that 
her short days are the 8 to 4 days--and she would very much like to 
have been able to spend comptime or flextime for those 3 days. However, 
since those options are not available, Christine had to take a 3-day 
pay cut for her to be the kind of mother she wants to be. This is one 
very conscientious woman. I might add that Christine and her husband 
now are expecting their third child. So this pressure is not likely to 
be abated. During her testimony before the Labor and Human Resources 
Committee's Employment and Training Subcommittee hearing, Christine 
asked the members to hurry up and pass the legislation so she could 
bank some comptime to use at the end of her current pregnancy. Mr. 
President, if we hurry, we might just make it.
  The point I want to make is that, as we approach this Sunday when we 
honor mothers who don't work just overtime, they work all the time, we 
have a responsibility to do what we can to give them at least the 
category of flexibility that the majority of workers in our culture 
enjoy. The boardroom enjoys flextime options; the managers enjoy 
flextime--the ones not paid by the hour, and most of them are not--
Government workers enjoy flextime and comptime, and, frankly, it is 
time for the working mothers of America to enjoy a comptime option.

  Harvard economist Juliet Schor has chronicled the crazy schedules 
that Americans are put through in a 1992 book called ``The Overworked 
American.'' She found that between 1969 and 1987, men worked an average 
of 98 more hours per year at the end of the period than they did at the 
beginning of the period. Here is the staggering statistic: during that 
same period--between 1969 and 1987--the average woman worked 305 more 
hours at the end of the period per year than she did at the beginning 
of the year.
  Not only are we working more, but the demands that we have for our 
families are not less; they may be more. There are more threatening 
influences on our families, I believe, in today's culture than there 
have been in the past. The need for direct parental involvement is 
something I believe the Senator from Massachusetts and I can agree to. 
I think kids do respond to direct parental involvement. He cited the 
fact that children actually recover faster from illness when there is 
more time with parents. I can agree to that. We need to provide a way 
for parents to do that, and we should not ask them to take a pay cut in 
order to be able to spend more time with their children, whether it is 
recovering from an illness or whether it is something else. Again, 305 
additional hours, on the average, women at work in 1987 than there was 
in 1969.
  Working mothers are stressed. Millions of moms wake up at 6, or 
earlier, in the morning to hustle their kids out of bed, make breakfast 
and lunch before sending the kids to the bus or dropping them off at 
day care. After the hectic morning hours, they show up for work ready 
to meet the demands of the day. We enjoy a great standard of living, a 
high level of productivity in the United States of America. There are 
lots of reasons for it, but one of the primary reasons we have the 
standard of living we do is that women work in the marriage. When the 
Fair Labor Standards Act went into effect in the 1930's, only one out 
of six mothers of school-aged children was in the work force. But 
today, about 75 percent--or 9 out of 12--of the mothers of school-aged 
children are in the work force. There is a benefit to the culture in 
that. We have a high standard of living. As a nation, we are 
competitive and productive. To think that somehow we can ignore the 
needs of the people who are the source of that productivity and 
competitive standing is just to have our heads in the stand.
  After 8 or 9 hours of work, women pick up the kids from some 
practice, or a babysitter, and go home to make dinner, sometimes with 
the assistance of the family, sometimes not. Often, each person in the 
family has a different shift, and that makes the schedule even more 
hectic. But there is a real challenge here. I think it is very 
important. The study indicates that, in addition to the 40-plus hours a 
week a working mom puts in on the job, the average mother adds about 25 
to 45 additional hours at home. That is not just overtime, that is 
where we talk about the fact that women are working all the time.
  You know the problems that can exist often in the middle of a school 
day: a school nurse calls to announce a child is ill and needs to be 
picked up. Under today's labor law, a mother who takes Friday afternoon 
off to take her flu-stricken son home can't make up that time on the 
following Monday. She must suffer a pay loss for those hours. We want 
to correct that. She can't go to a ``bank'' of pre-work time and say, I 
have 3 or 4 hours in reserve so that I won't have to have my pay 
disrupted; I can go and I don't have to choose between my paycheck and 
my child. No one wants to do that. No one would choose their paycheck. 
We don't want to put people under that stress. They could just go to an 
account that they would have for flexible working arrangements or 
compensatory time, and employers who understand the value of workers 
are eager to cooperate with workers to help them meet the needs of 
their families.
  The Senator from Massachusetts made a number of remarks that, in my 
judgment, suggest that employers aren't eager to help employees resolve 
these difficulties. I think that may have been the case at some time in 
history. But there are many, many employers who are very eager to help 
their employees do well with both their families and on the job. As a 
matter of fact, Working Women magazine features the 100 best companies 
each year, and companies compete for this. They say, ``You should work 
for us because we have this kind of willingness to work with you, and 
we should be partners in an enterprise that isn't just a business 
enterprise, but the enterprise of helping you be successful.''

  Well, I believe that our ability to add to the arsenal of things that 
can help people meet the needs of their families and the workplace is a 
tremendous responsibility, and we should take that responsibility 
seriously and we should address it. To suggest that to have flexible 
working arrangements means that we can't have or won't have the family 
and medical leave opportunity is simply wrong. To suggest that if these 
new arrangements aren't identical to family and medical leave, they are 
bad, is to ignore the fact that family and medical leave can meet one 
category of demand, and flexible working arrangements can meet another 
category of demand. And to ignore the fact that the category of need 
exists for flexible working arrangements is to ignore the thousands of 
workers that have contacted us, and to ignore the experience of people 
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the boardroom who have been using flexible work approaches for a long 
time.
  I am very grateful to the chairman of the Labor Committee, the 
Senator from Vermont, and to the chairman of the subcommittee, the 
Senator from Ohio, for their excellent work in this respect. I look 
forward to the debate.
  This is not a pay reduction bill. I kind of get the idea that those 
who oppose this bill know that it is not, because this is a way for 
people to take time off without taking the pay cut. I kind of get the 
idea that those who oppose this bill feel like a good offense must be 
their best defense because, frankly, to suggest that this is a pay cut 
bill is to misrepresent it in terms of the thing that makes it most 
strong, and that is this is the ability of people to meet the needs of 
their families, without sacrificing their pay in order to do so.
  It is with that in mind that I look forward to the debate next week 
and to the ultimate passage of this measure by the U.S. Senate. It, 
indeed, would be the very single best Mother's Day gift that this 
Government could extend to the people of America.
  I yield the floor.
  Mr. HUTCHINSON addressed the Chair.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Arkansas is recognized.
  Mr. HUTCHINSON. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent to proceed for 
10 minutes.
  The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
  Mr. HUTCHINSON. Mr. President, I want to commend the Senator from 
Missouri for his eloquent, compassionate statement on behalf of the 
families of America and on behalf of the Mothers of America. I 
appreciate his leadership on this bill.

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