[Congressional Record Volume 142, Number 112 (Friday, July 26, 1996)]
[House]
[Page H8595]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]




                   NEED TO END PARTIAL-BIRTH ABORTION

  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a previous order of the House, the 
gentleman from Texas [Mr. Stockman] is recognized for 5 minutes.
  Mr. STOCKMAN. Mr. Speaker, I want to say to the gentleman from 
California, it is always a joy to hear my good friend from California 
speak as he speaks from the heart and he speaks the truth. And if there 
is one thing that the gentleman has taught me, is that speaking the 
truth does not make you popular, but it is for the record and for the 
people to hear, and I want to thank my good friend from California.
  Mr. DORNAN. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
  Mr. STOCKMAN. I yield to the gentleman from California.
  Mr. DORNAN. Mr. Speaker, I think I scare some liberals when I get 
passionate. Have you ever seen me carry that passion or any ill will in 
the Speaker's lobby or in the Cloakroom or anywhere in the Halls of 
this place?
  Mr. STOCKMAN. No, absolutely not. I think you are respected for your 
passion toward both sides of the aisle.
  Mr. DORNAN. You are a freshman. When I was a freshman, I hit the 
ground running like you, like your whole wonderful nonextremist 
mainline class. And I loved Tip O'Neill, the Speaker of the House. He 
sat with me alone in his office for 1 hour with my uncle, Jack Haley, 
the Tin Man in the Wizard of Oz, and that Irish actor and that Irish 
politician were dealing in first names about friends and people they 
had not seen in 40 and 50 years.
  But Tip O'Neill indicated to me, for speaking out in the well on the 
Panama Canal and the B-1 bomber, and on three issues he told me he 
disliked, this is Tip O'Neill, ``Man of the House,'' I just mentioned 
his book, abortion, busing, and Koreagate. Koreagate, if you recall, 
way before your time, was a scandal with people going around here with 
bags of money corrupting Congressmen and, of course, it was 
uncomfortable to him. But to not talk about it would have been 
blindsiding the American people. Busing was a cultural issue that was 
tearing communities apart.
  Mr. STOCKMAN. Which now we realized we spent more money on busing and 
we should have been spending it on schools.
  Mr. DORNAN. Right, and how could a good Irish Catholic politician 
tell me not to talk about abortion, the chief moral issue? And now we 
are debating homosexual sodomy marriage and killing a baby by 
puncturing his head and taking its brains out when his arms and legs 
are out in the world moving and it is four-fifths born. That, as the 
Pope says and Billy Graham says, is infanticide.
  Mr. STOCKMAN. That is exactly why I came to the well to day to talk 
about. Bob, are you getting these little green cards from your 
constituents? They are put out by the Catholic Church and Mr. Speaker 
they are putting them in----

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