[Congressional Record Volume 142, Number 101 (Wednesday, July 10, 1996)]
[House]
[Page H7244]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]
THE ESSENTIAL 30-DAY COMMENT PERIOD IN WISCONSIN BEFORE ACTION ON
WELFARE REFORM WAIVER REQUEST
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a previous order of the House, the
gentleman from Wisconsin [Mr. Obey] is recognized for 5 minutes.
Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, I have the following one-word reply to the
gentleman who just spoke: Baloney. A two-word reply: Double baloney.
I represent Wisconsin. I take a back seat to no one in wanting to see
massive welfare reform. I know that taxpayers are tired of seeing
people collect money on welfare who are not willing to work to earn it,
and I know that people are tired, and justifiably so, of seeing people
in this society who often have their hand out but who are not willing
to go to work in order to improve their own condition. I believe in
personal responsibility, and I believe that people ought to be willing
to accept the consequences of their own actions in their own lives.
But I want to make a few remarks that correct some of the wildly
inaccurate statements just made by the previous speaker. There is no
30-day deadline for the President to consider Wisconsin's W2 program.
There is simply, thanks to the fact that the Congress did not eliminate
it, as the majority party tried to do, there is still the protection in
law that allows every single one of my constituents in Wisconsin to
have at least 30 days to comment on the deal that the politicians put
together at the State level in Wisconsin. That 30-day requirement is
simply a 30-day minimum requirement during which the public has a right
to speak out before the politicians and the bureaucrats make their
final decisions. I make no apology for insisting that that 30-day
public comment period be retained. My citizens have the same right to
comment that citizens from every other State have had before waivers
were granted for their welfare reform proposals.
I wonder if the gentleman knows that in the original W2 waiver
request which this party demanded that we pass, sight unseen, without
any Member having read it on this floor, I wonder if the gentleman
knows that Wisconsin later had to, at least the Governor and the
welfare director, had to indicate they made a mistake in the
presentation they made to the national government, and they recognized
it needed to be amended.
Why? Because the press discovered during that 30-day public comment
period that they tried to wipe out on that side of the aisle, the press
in Wisconsin discovered that the W2 waiver proposal would have allowed
employers to cut the hours of their regular workers, to cut the
benefits of their regular workers, in order to make room for welfare
workers in those plants.
It also inadvertently would have allowed employers to cancel
promotions for their regular workers and, instead, give those promoted
jobs to welfare recipients newly hired by the company. The State
admitted that that was a mistake, but that mistake would not have been
corrected if this House had rammed through the Senate the legislation
which the majority party tried to ram through.
You bet workers are tired of seeing tax dollars gobbled up by people
on welfare who will not work. You bet taxpayers are tired of that. But
I can tell the Members something taxpayers do not want to see even
more. They do not want to see their jobs gobbled up by welfare
recipients.
So if we are going to solve welfare reform, let us solve it by
correcting the behavior of people whose behavior needs to be corrected.
Let us not solve it by whacking the ability of workers to maintain
their wages, to maintain their hours, to maintain their benefits at
work, and to maintain their rights to be considered for promotion
before newly hired workers who just the day before were on the welfare
rolls.
I would simply say that I want Wisconsin's welfare program to be
approved, but only after my constituents have had ample time to examine
that waiver request to make certain there are no other mistakes which
wind up threatening the welfare of workers.
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