[Congressional Record Volume 142, Number 96 (Wednesday, June 26, 1996)]
[House]
[Pages H6950-H6963]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]
PROVIDING FOR CONSIDERATION OF HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION 182, DISAPPROVING
EXTENSIONS OF MOST-FAVORED-NATION STATUS TO PRODUCTS OF PEOPLE'S
REPUBLIC OF CHINA, AND HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION 461, REGARDING THE
PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA
Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, by direction of the Committee on Rules, I
call up House Resolution 463 and ask for its immediate consideration.
The Clerk read the resolution, as follows:
H. Res. 463
Resolved, That upon the adoption of this resolution it
shall be in order to consider in the House the joint
resolution (H.J. Res. 182) disapproving the extension of
nondiscriminatory treatment (most-favored-nation treatment)
to the products of the People's Republic of China. All points
of order against the joint resolution and against its
consideration are waived. The joint resolution shall be
debatable for two hours equally divided and controlled by the
chairman of the Committee on Ways and Means (in opposition to
the joint resolution) and a Member in support of the joint
resolution. Pursuant to sections 152 and 153 of the Trade Act
of 1974, the previous question shall be considered as ordered
on the joint resolution to final passage without intervening
motion. The provisions of sections 152 and 153 of the Trade
Act of 1974 shall not apply to any other joint resolution
disapproving the extension of most-favored-nation treatment
to the People's Republic of China for the remainder of the
One Hundred Fourth Congress.
Sec. 2. After disposition of House Joint Resolution 182
pursuant to the first section of this resolution, it shall be
in order to consider in the House the resolution (H. Res.
461) regarding human rights abuses, nuclear and chemical
weapons proliferation, illegal weapons trading, military
intimidation of Taiwan, and trade violations by the People's
Republic of China and the People's Liberation Army, and
directing the committees of jurisdiction to commence hearings
and report appropriate legislation. The resolution shall be
debatable for one hour equally divided and controlled by
Representative Cox of California or his designee and a Member
opposed to the resolution. The previous question shall be
considered as ordered on the resolution to final adoption
without intervening motion.
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. LaHood). The gentleman from New York
[Mr. Solomon] is recognized for 1 hour.
Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, for the purpose of debate only, I yield the
customary 30 minutes to the gentleman from Massachusetts [Mr. Moakley],
pending which I yield myself such time as I may consume. During
consideration of this resolution, all time yielded is for the purpose
of debate only.
(Mr. SOLOMON asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks and include extraneous material.)
Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, House Resolution 463 is a rule providing
for the consideration of two measures. The first measure is House Joint
Resolution 182, a resolution disapproving the extension of most-
favored-nation treatment to the products of the People's Republic of
China. It was introduced by
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the gentleman from California [Mr. Rohrabacher] on June 13, and it was
ordered reported adversely by the Committee on Ways and Means on June
18 by a vote of 31 to 6.
Although the Trade Act of 1974 already provides procedures for
considering such disapproval resolutions without a special rule, there
are two principal reasons why this rule is necessary.
First, the Trade Act provides for 20 hours of debate on such
disapproval resolutions. This special rule narrows that down to 2
hours, equally divided between a proponent and the chairman of the
Committee on Ways and Means, Mr. Archer, in opposition. The rule also
provides for consideration in the House instead of the Committee of the
Whole as it ordinarily would be.
Second, the Trade Act does not waive points of order against he
disapproval resolutions. This rule waives all points of order against
House Joint Resolution 182 and its consideration. We are aware of only
one need for a waiver, and that is the 3-day availability requirement
for the committee report.
Since the bill and report were only filed yesterday, Tuesday, by the
Committee on Ways and Means, and today is only the first rather than
the third day of its availability, this rule and waiver are necessary.
Under the Trade Act procedures, disapproval resolutions are not
subject to amendment or to a motion to recommit. This rule does not
alter either of those provisions of the statute. Neither does the rule
alter the statutory division of debate time between proponents and
opponents.
After the 2 hours of debate provided by the rule, the previous
question is ordered to final passage without intervening motion,
meaning there will be no amendments and no motion to recommit,
consistent with the statutory provisions of the 1974 Trade Act. We live
by the law.
In addition to the two reasons I have cited for why this rule is
necessary, the rule provides for the consideration of a tandem piece of
legislation following the disposition of the disapproval resolution.
That measure is House Resolution 461, introduced by the gentleman from
California [Mr. Cox] just yesterday.
Under the terms of this rule, the Cox resolution will be debated in
the House for 1 hour, equally divided between Mr. Cox or his designee,
and a Member opposed to the resolution.
As with the disapproval resolution, the rule orders the previous
question on the Cox resolution to final adoption without intervening
motion, meaning no amendments and no motion to recommit. In other
words, on both resolutions this House will be given a straight up-or-
down vote, and that is the fair way to do it.
The Cox resolution is a simple House resolution, meaning that it does
not require Senate approval or Presidential signature for it to be
effective. The resolution contains a number of findings in the preamble
regarding human rights abuses, nuclear and chemical weapon
proliferation, illegal weapons trading, military intimidation of
Taiwan, and trade violations by the People's Republic of China and the
People's Liberation Army.
It then concludes with a single resolving clause that directs the
various committees of jurisdiction, including the Committees on Ways
and means, International Relations, and Banking and Financial Services,
to hold hearings on the matters and concerns addressed in the preamble
and, if appropriate, to report legislation addressing these matters to
the House not later than September 30 of this year.
Mr. Speaker, those are the provisions of this rule. I think they will
provide the House with ample opportunity over the next 4 hours to fully
debate the critical problem of Communist China.
The Committee on Rules had a rather extensive debate on these issues
last night before we reported this rule by a unanimous voice vote. I
hope this rule will receive the same measure of bipartisan support we
had in the Rules Committee.
On the resolutions themselves, I would urge support for both of them,
for one simple reason, and let me say this loud and clear: The policy
of engagement with Communist China has failed, failed, failed.
Despite what some proponents of business as usual will say today, all
one needs to do is read the papers every single day to know that
Communist China is a rogue dictatorship that is running amok and is
absolutely contemptuous of our weak-kneed policy of appeasement. The
examples of abhorrent and dangerous behaviors by this dictatorship are
too numerous to even list. Here are just a few.
First, as we speak there is a vicious crackdown on dissent taking
place in Tibet, and we all ought to keep this in mind as we deliberate
this issue. It is pathetic, Mr. Speaker, It is so sad.
We must remember that we are talking about a Communist dictatorship
that commits crimes against its own people every single day.
Mr. Speaker, we also must remember that Communist China represents a
growing threat to the national security interests of this country, and
that will be brought out during the next 4 hours of debate. Backed by
its rapidly growing military power, Communist China has begun to throw
its weight around in East Asia, bullying our democratic friends in
Taiwan and acting very aggressively in the Spratly Islands.
Most of all, we should be very concerned about recent attempts by
China to acquire SS-18 intercontinental nuclear missiles from Russia
which could directly threaten the American people.
Now, Mr. Speaker, turning to proliferation matters, well, here the
proponents of appeasement have really got some explaining to do. Hardly
a day goes by when we do not read about things like Chinese nuclear
ring magnet shipments to places like Pakistan, chemical weapons
technology transfers to Iran, cruise missile shipments to Iran, uranium
processing technology to Iran, plutonium processing technology to
Pakistan, and the list goes on and on and on. I could stand here for 20
minutes and continue reading these kind of rogue activities by this
government.
Mr. Speaker, the real issue here today, though, is jobs, jobs, jobs,
issues that our China policy really hits home on. Once again, our trade
deficit with Communist China has surged, and now stand at $34 billion.
I wish every one of the men here in this body would take off their
shirts and show me the label in the collar on their shirts. I bet them
dollars to doughnuts there is not one made in the United States of
America.
Mr. Speaker, Communist China does not grant fair access to our goods,
period. Meanwhile, we continue to give China carte blanche in our
markets with most-favored-nation trading status.
Mr. Speaker, this so-called relationship with Communist China that
some people are obsessed with maintaining destroys American jobs, and
this has got to stop. We have the power, especially the economic power,
with 250 million Americans with the highest standard of living in the
world and that buying power to bring pressure to bear on these tyrants,
and we ought to use that, without firing a shot. We do it economically.
Terminating MFN is the 2 by 4 we need to get their attention. When
the vast American market for Communist Chinese goods is shut off, even
temporarily, these greedy dictators will start to show a little bit of
flexibility. That is the only kind of language they understand.
So let us use it today by voting ``aye'' on the Rohrabacher
resolution of disapproval of most-favored-nation trading status for
Communist China. It does not have to be for a year, it does not have to
be for 6 months. It can be for only 30 days. We would see them sit down
at the table and start negotiating fair trading practices with America.
Mr. Speaker, after we pass the Cox resolution directing four
committees of this House to hold hearings and report legislation on how
to deal with this problem, those committees ought to report only
substantive legislation which takes punitive measures against this
outlaw regime which is in fact an enemy of the United States of America
and certainly of every working American.
Mr. Speaker, at this point I include the following extraneous
material for the Record:
[From the Weekly Standard, June 3, 1996]
Most Favored Nation--or Most Appeased?
(By Robert Kagen)
Bill Clinton's announcement last week that he will seek
unconditional renewal of China's most-favored-nation status
is the
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latest evidence of a metamorphosis remarkable even for this
president. Though he relentlessly attacked the Bush
administration's China policy as bereft of human-rights
concerns during his 1992 candidacy, in office Clinton has
become the spiritual godson of Henry Kissinger. After a very
brief flirtation with risky originality, Clinton has sought
safety in the conventional wisdom of the bipartisan foreign
policy and business elite, in which he stands shoulder to
shoulder with his presidential rival, Bob Dole.
Incoherence on China is not unique to Bill Clinton's
foreign policy. It has been a problem for politicians of both
parties since the late 1980s. The collapse of the Soviet
Union and its Communist empire swept away the original
foundation on which the Sino-American rapprochement was built
in the early 1970s. America's interests and priorities have
shifted as policymakers must now grapple with how to manage a
world in which the United States is the sole superpower. At
the same time, China's place in the constellation of global
powers has shifted; from its position as the weakest side of
the Sino-Soviet-American triangle as recently as 10 years
ago, China seems poised over the coming decade to become the
principal challenger to American dominance of the world
order.
The lack of clarity and resolve in American policy toward
China today is due to the failure of policymakers to
recognize these changes and reorient American strategy to
deal with them. The result has been worse than incoherence.
American policies these days are starting to look a lot like
the kind of appeasement that eventually leads to disaster.
Twenty-five years ago, the logic of the U.S.-China
relationship was clear. At a time when American power seemed
in Vietnam-saturated decline, Richard Nixon and Henry
Kissinger were searching for quick and easy ways of
redressing the increasingly unfavorable U.S.-Soviet balance
while shoring up Nixon's political standing at home. Playing
the ``China card'' looked like a brilliant strategic gambit,
a simple matter, as Kissinger recalled in his memoirs, of
``align[ing] oneself with the weaker of two antagonistic
partners, because this acted as a restraint on the
stronger.'' Kissinger did not share the view of State
Department Sinophiles that good relations with China were a
worthy end in themselves; he considered them a means to the
end of shaping Soviet behavior and inducing Soviet leaders to
accept the outstretched hand of detente. Indeed, as former
Kissinger aide Peter W. Rodman has noted, the real purpose of
``triangular diplomacy'' was not to forge a permanent
strategic partnership with China against Russia but ``to
secure better relations with both.''
The shift to a more enduring strategic partnership with
China came during the Carter administration under the
direction of national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski.
Alarmed at the Soviet Union's increasing adventurousness in
the Third World from Africa to Southeast Asia, Brzezdinski
sought to involve the Chinese more directly on the U.S. side
in the worldwide anti-Soviet struggle. Kissinger aimed at
playing both Communist giants against each other, but
Brzezinski in 1978 traveled to Beijing to tell Deng Xiaoping
that the United States had ``made up its mind'' and had
chosen China. The price the Carter administration willingly
paid for this new strategic partnership was the completion of
the process of normalization Nixon had begun, including the
revocation of U.S. recognition of Taiwan. In American foreign
policy circles, Brzezinski's actions firmly established the
still-extant bipartisan consensus on the overriding strategic
importance of U.S.-Chinese relations.
The world of the 1970s looked very different from today's,
however. The West was suffering from a paralyzing loss of
confidence in its institutions and its liberal values.
Communism still seemed to many around the world, and even to
some in the United States, a viable if not superior
alternative to capitalism. The great, resurgent successes of
liberal capitalism--the Reagan boom here, the rise of the
economic ``tigers'' in East Asia--lay in the future. The
policymakers of the 1970s could not even have begun to
imagine the worldwide democratic revolution that began in
the 1980s in Latin America and Asia and then spread to
Central and Eastern Europe and Russia. Instead, the United
States was surrounded by dictatorships in its own
hemisphere and maintained supportive relations with them
and many others around the world.
In such a world, the strategic value of American
rapprochement and then partnership with a Communist China
seemed to outweigh the sacrifice of American ideals such a
relationship required. Churchill had been willing to ``sup
with the devil'' in order to defeat Hitler; few questioned
the logic of closer U.S.-Chinese ties in a world where
democracy and capitalism seemed to be imperiled by an
expanding Soviet empire. In a world filled with dictatorships
of both the left- and right-wing varieties, moreover, few
believed the United States could afford to be picky about how
its allies governed themselves.
Which is not to say that everyone in the United States was
enthusiastic about the new partnership with Communist China.
Conservative Republicans, including the old ``China Lobby''
with its bitter memories of 1949 and the ``betrayal'' of
Chiang Kaishek, opposed some elements of the new course--
especially when it was conducted by the Democratic
administration of Jimmy Carter. Thus Robert Dole, although a
devoted supporter of Nixon, vigorously opposed Carter's
normalization of relations with China at the end of 1978.
After normal ties were established, as Jim Mann of the Los
Angeles Times has recently noted, Dole called on the White
House to invite the president of Taiwan to Washington. From
the floor of the Senate in 1979, he insisted that the Taiwan
Relations Act must not leave America's old ally undefended
against aggression by America's new ally. And when Carter
proposed extending most-favored-nation status to China in
1980, Dole led the opposition and introduced legislation
denying it to any nation that, like China, had not yet signed
the nuclear nonproliferation treaty.
Despite these efforts by its Republican allies, however,
the authoritarian regime in Taiwan had a difficult time
winning much support in the United States. The dominant view
of American policymakers in both parties was that holding the
prized China card was essential to America's strategic well-
being and that other issues--like sentimental ties to Taiwan,
like the sharp ideological differences between China and the
United States--had to be set aside.
The resurgence of American power and will under Ronald
Reagan ought to have changed this and many other
calculations. And to some extent during the 1980s, it did.
Reagan, who had achieved preeminence in the Republican party
partly by leading a crusade against the Nixon-Kissinger
foreign policy, did not share Kissinger's and Brzezinski's
strong attachment to the China card. Reagan himself was a
longtime supporter of Taiwan, and as Peter Rodman points out,
in the Reagan administration ``even the younger officials
making Asia policy . . . thought that the Nixon, Ford, and
Carter administration had all gone overboard in their
sentimentality about China.''
There was also strategic logic to the Reagan
administration's de-emphasis of the relationships with China.
At a time when Reagan was determined to challenge the Soviets
directly on all fronts, both militarily and ideologically, a
China policy born in a time of strategic weakness was less
compelling. Reagan simply didn't believe he needed China as
much as Nixon and Carter had.
The worldwide ideological offensive that Reagan launched at
the start of his second year in office, moreover, could
not fail to affect the nature of relations between the
United States and China. By the mid-1980s, much of the
world appeared to be moving steadily in the direction of
liberal economics and liberal government. The dire
circumstances that had given birth to the U.S.-China
strategic partnership in the 1970s were rapidly giving way
in the 1980s to a new international situation that
required a recalculation of the value of close ties
between the two global powers.
Finally, the beginning of the collapse of the Soviet empire
in 1989 and the emergence of the United States as the world's
dominant military, economic, cultural, and ideological power
utterly shattered the original rationale for Sino-American
partnership. In the post-Cold War era it was ludicrous to
speak of playing the China card, as Kissinger had, to
convince Moscow to embrace detente; or as Brzezinski had, to
combat Soviet aggression in the Third World. It was no longer
possible to describe U.S.-China relations as ``align[ing]
oneself with the weaker of two antagonistic partners,'' given
the Soviet Union's free fall and China's explosive economic
growth.
China itself had appeared to be part of the global trend
toward freedom throughout the 1980s. The ``Four
Modernization,'' begun under the leadership of Deng Xiaoping
in the late 1970s helped produce the Chinese economic miracle
we know today. A Chinese ``democracy movement'' soon emerged,
calling for a ``Fifth Modernization,'' free elections, and in
some instances openly praising American-style democracy.
Though it was subject to government harassment, the existence
of the democracy movement suggested to many American
observers that political reform in China was the inevitable
next step after Doug's economic reforms.
The massacre at Tiananmen Square in 1989 and the subsequent
suppression of dissidents, which continues to this day,
dashed these hopes. It could hardly have been better timed to
force the United States to reconsider the unpleasant bargain
it had made with its conscience in the 1970s. At the same
time the old strategic rationale for the U.S.-China
partnership was vanishing, the Chinese government cast a
bright light on the acute ideological differences between the
two countries. Indeed, after Tianenmen, China emerged as the
most powerful opponent of American liberal principles in the
world.
In the ensuing years, China would significantly increase
its military spending, even as both Soviet and American
defense spending declined, and with the clear aim of using
its growing military power to enhance its influence abroad.
the fruits of these efforts have been apparent in recent
years, as china, in the words of Sen. John McCain, has
increasingly been ``displaying very aggressive behavior''--in
the South China Sea, against a newly democratic Taiwan, and
in a growing propensity to make arms sales to many of the
world's rogue states.
Under these new circumstances, it would seem to make little
sense to continue pursuing the old Cold War policies toward
China. Yet remarkably, that is just what the Bush
administration tried to do after 1989, and
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what the purveyors of the bipartisan consensus, including
most recently the Clinton administration, have been trying to
do ever since. Even after the Cold War, the United States
maintained ``overriding strategic interests in engaging
China,'' former secretary of state James Baker declares in
his memoirs, but nowhere does he explain exactly what those
``overriding strategic interests'' are.
In fact, the most common explanations of the strategic
importance of the U.S.-China relationship today are fraught
with contradictions. American business leaders, and their
supporters in the administration and Congress, constantly
point to China's potentially vast market for American goods.
But it is striking how unimpressive the economic numbers
really are. Last year, American merchandise exports to China
amounted to $12 billion, about 2 percent of overall exports.
By comparison, American exports to Taiwan, with a population
one-sixtieth as large as the mainland's, were $19 billion.
Meanwhile, China has amassed a $34 billion trade surplus with
the United States, enough to send Patrick Buchanan into fits
of protectionist hysteria. Well might the boosters of the
U.S.-China trade relationship insist, like Rep. Toby Roth,
that ``the key is not where China is today. What is important
is where China is headed.'' But how impressive does the
future look? Roth boasts that ``in just 15 years, China will
be our 13th largest export market.'' Now there's a strategic
imperative!
In the late 19th century, many American businessmen
succumbed to what some historians now call ``the myth of the
China market.'' The businessmen, the politicians, and the
policymakers of the day could see only the unimaginable
bounty that lay in the future of such a populous country--
even though earnings in the near-term proved minuscule and
businesses had to suffer losses in an effort to wheedle
their way into the good graces of the Chinese powers that
controlled foreign trade. A full century later, the bounty
is still elusive, but the myth is just as potent.
And today's proponents of the China trade on strategic
grounds have adopted another 19th-century nostrum as well:
the conviction that increasing trade is the solvent for all
the problems of mankind. Nations that trade with one another,
the theory goes, will not let clashing strategic interests
get in the way of making a buck. After all, Rep. Roth
insists, ``Economic strength, not military might, determines
the world's great powers today.'' In testimony before
Congress recently, Clinton administration official Stuart
Eizenstat defended the renewal of most-favored-nation status
for China on the grounds that the ``commercial relationship
provides one of the strongest foundations for our
engagement.'' Argues undersecretary of state Peter Tarnoff:
``Our economic and commercial relations increase China's
stake in cooperating with us and in complying with
international norms.'' Robert Dole, once the mainland's foe,
now agrees: In a May 9 speech, he argued that `'extension of
most-favored-nation status [is] the best way to promote our
long-term interests in China. . . . In China, continuing
trade offers the prospect of continuing change.''
Is that true? Few Republicans and conservatives would say
that trade will reform Castro's Cuba. Nor would they be
likely to forget that during the Cold War, the Jackson-Vanik
restrictions on trade with the Soviet Union did not prevent
political liberalization. On the contrary, the denial of
most-favored-nation status to the Soviets may have encouraged
reform by forcing the Communist leaders in Moscow to
undertake political liberalization as the prerequisite for
economic growth.
The view that economics is paramount while military,
strategic, and political issues are of declining importance--
so-called Manchester liberalism--was rampant in the 19th and
early 20th centuries, right up until the outbreak of World
War I. It is as dangerous a misconception today as it was
then. Nevertheless, this assumption now lies at the heart of
American China policy. We need to engage so we can trade, say
the businessmen; yes, say the China experts, and we need to
trade so we can engage.
In their search for a new rationale for preserving a close
relationship between the United States and China, the
adherents of today's bipartisan consensus have had to employ
such logic constantly. Indeed, the logic of the U.S.-China
relationship today has turned in on itself. In the 1970s, the
case for strategic partnership with China was that it was
necessary to meet the threat posed by the Soviet Union.
Today, it seems, strategic partnership with China is
necessary to meet the threat posed by China. Secretary of
State Warren Christopher put the case best in his speech on
May 17. He noted the ``importance of China to our future
security and well-being.'' And what, in addition to the lure
of the market, is that importance? The answer is that ``China
can tip the balance in Asia between stability and conflict.''
In other words, we need a good relationship with China
because China is dangerous. Or as Eizenstat put it, ``It is
when China's policies are the most difficult that engagement
becomes the most essential.''
It's a nice racket the Chinese have going. By the current
circular logic of American policy, the more trouble the
Chinese make--whether in Taiwan, or on trade, or in the South
China Sea, or in weapons sales to rogue states--the harder
the United States has to work to ``engage.'' There is no
dispute on this point now between the leading figures of both
parties. Henry Kissinger, in an op-ed piece a few weeks ago,
declared that ``after Chinese leaders had been pilloried and
threatened with sanctions for years,'' what was needed now
was ``a serious strategic and political dialogue, . . . a
sustained effort to define a common assessment of the future
of Asia.'' Christopher soon after announced his intention to
``develop a more regular dialogue between our two
countries.'' The idea is that regular consolations will
``facilitate a candid exchange of views, provide a more
effective means for managing specific problems, and allow us
to approach individual issues within the broader strategic
framework of our overall relationship.''
We may be forgiven for doubting whether such candid talks
will make a big difference. After all, it's not as if efforts
at assiduous diplomacy haven't been tried. After the massacre
in Tiananmen Square in 1989, President Bush and his secretary
of state saw their man task as protecting the important
strategic relationship with China from American outrage at
Beijing's massive abuse of individual rights. According to
Baker, President Bush's first reaction upon hearing of the
assault at Tiananmen was: ``It's going to be difficult to
manage this problem.'' And indeed it was, as Baker's
memoirs amply demonstrate. Baker employed precisely the
negotiating style that the China experts insist is the
only kind capable of producing results--quiet
negotiations, no public threats, none of the ``spasmodic
harassment'' Kissinger finds so detrimental, and constant
attention to the fact that, as Baker writes, ``face is
unusually important to [the Chinese], so an interlocutor
must negotiate a delicate balance that nudges them toward
a preferred course without embarrassing them in the
process.'' Despite all this subtle diplomacy, the Chinese
gave Baker absolutely nothing for his troubles. Chinese
officials, Baker recalls, ``had no compunction about
asking for American concessions while simultaneously
ignoring my request for `visible and positive Chinese
steps' to make it easier to allay congressional and public
anger with Beijing.'' Throughout the four years of the
Bush administration, Baker acknowledges, ``the Chinese
relationship essentially treaded water.''
Under present policies, in the years to come the United
States will continue to tread water, or worse. The truth is,
our posture today is, simply, plain old appeasement. One bit
of proof is that we are not supposed even to use the word
``containment'' to describe our policy toward China lest we
suggest to the Chinese that in some way we may consider them
adversaries. The United States ``should not, and will not,
adopt a policy of containment towards China,'' declares
Undersecretary Tarnoff. Why not? Because ``we would gain
nothing and risk much if China were to become isolated and
unstable.'' In other words, even if it were necessary to
contain China, it would be too dangerous to attempt the task.
This is Kissinger's view, as well. Any attempt to pursue a
policy of ``containment'' of China, Kissinger has argued, is
``reckless'' and a ``pipe dream.''
Such a skittish approach to another world power might be
forgivable if our own nation were weak. But the same people
who fear a policy of ``containment'' often boast that China
needs the United States more than the United States needs
China. In a trade war, for instance, Eizenstat argues that
``China has a lot more to lose than we do.'' Like that $34
billion trade surplus, for instance. According to Baker, the
Chinese ``need our help to sustain their economic growth.''
And Baker, who got nowhere in four years if subtle diplomacy
with Beijing, even believes that the Chinese understand
toughness: ``Strength inevitably irritates the Chinese, but
they understand it. And the absence of resolve in dealing
with them can lead to serious miscalculation on their part.''
And yet ``the absence of resolve'' would seem to be the
best characterization of the policy that the Bush
administration and now the Clinton administration have chosen
to pursue toward China. When Baker negotiated with the
Chinese during the Bush years, he always went out of his way
to make clear that the Bush administration was entirely
``committed to maintaining the relationship,'' that it was
always ``seeking ways to reconcile our estrangement.'' Little
wonder that, according to Baker, the Chinese ``seemed utterly
oblivious to our concerns.'' It is axiomatic that if the
United States enters all negotiations with China with the
mutual understanding that ultimately American leaders will
not allow an estrangement in the relationship, then the
Chinese will win in most of the negotiations.
In every relationship between nations there is a horse and
a rider, Bismarck once noted, and one should endeavor to be
the rider. American policy toward China today almost
guarantees that we will be the horse.
How can the United States restore the resolve that James
Baker believes is so essential to effective dealings with
China? This week Congress is debating and voting on the
renewal of most-favored-nation status for China. It will
surely pass, and perhaps it ought to. The fact of U.S.-China
relations should not rest on this relatively narrow issue.
The problem with our China policy goes deeper than simple
trade rules. Dealing with an increasingly powerful and
ambitious China over the coming years will require a strong
and determined America willing either to engage or to contain
China, depending on Chinese behavior.
Still, most-favored-nation status has become a symbol of
China's whip hand over us.
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Our unwillingness to pay what is still a relatively small
economic price in terms of lost trade opportunities; our fear
that any crisis in U.S.-Chinese relations that might result
from denial of most-favored-nation status is too dangerous to
risk; our concern that in any confrontation it is we, not
they, who will be most likely to blink--these are all sizable
cracks in our armor the Chinese can exploit, have exploited,
and, indeed, are exploiting.
Thus one can only conclude that before we can conduct a
successful strategy of compelling China to ``play by the
rules of the international system,'' in the words of Bob
Dole, we will have to break our addiction to the China-market
myth. And that can only come about if policymakers,
economists, and businessmen begin to look at the hard truth
and stop allowing their dreams of a gold rush to outweight
more vital concerns--not only America's strategic interests,
but the basic liberties of more than a billion people living
beneath the yoke.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. MOAKLEY. Mr. Speaker, I thank my colleague from New York, Mr.
Solomon, for yielding me the customary half hour and I yield myself
such time as I may use.
Mr. Speaker, I want to make two things clear at the beginning of this
debate.
First of all, the people's Republic of China has one of the worst
human rights records in the world. The unconscionable mistreatment of
the Chinese citizens is completely abhorrent. And we, the United States
of America, need to do absolutely everything we can to change it.
Second, most-favored-nation status is not special treatment. Most-
favored-nation trading status is the status this country accords to 181
countries, nearly every country in the world.
Only seven nations are not granted MFN trade status with the United
States.
Since February 1, 1980, China has received MFN status under the 1974
Trade Act. The particulars of this law, the so-called Jackson-Vanik
amendment, requires nonmarket economies--or communist countries--to
have their trade status reconsidered each year.
Jackson-Vanik passed in 1974 and is based entirely on an outdated
cold war strategy--that was put into effect 22 years ago, Mr. Speaker.
Today, Communism continues to crumble around the globe. Each time a
country embraces democracy it is thanks entirely to our diplomatic
efforts. And we shouldn't stop now.
Because, Mr. Speaker, one quarter of the world's population live in
China--1.2 billion people. And very single one of them deserves their
chance at freedom and democracy. Just as other people enjoy.
The choice is isolationism or direct engagement. And we accomplished
very little with isolationism.
So unless we maintain normal trade relations with China--we lose the
chance to show those 1.2 billion people how great democracy is. We lose
the chance to end the unspeakable human rights abuse and the horrifying
population control efforts that take place in China.
This is our chance to lift the iron curtain of oppression and show
one quarter of our world what democracy is like.
And, Mr. Speaker, we've tried it the other way. We tried isolating
China 20 years ago. It didn't work then and I don't think it will work
today. In fact, I would argue that it actually made the oppression
worse.
It's time to try something else. Because every day that these abuses
take place; every day a baby girl is abandoned or worse; every day a
student fighting for freedom is jailed--we share in some of the guilt.
I for one believe we must do every thing we can to end these abuses and
end them here and end them now.
If we do not take this chance we wash our hands of the lives of the
Chinese people. We pass on the opportunity to negotiate with them on
human rights. We pass on the chance to negotiate on nuclear weapons.
If we pass on the chance to talk to China, Mr. Speaker, we got no one
to blame but ourselves when they don't listen.
MFN status will help the people of China by bringing businesses into
the country, increasing wages, and putting increased pressure on the
Chinese Government to improve their human rights record.
I think it's a good idea, It is a good rule, and I urge my colleagues
to support it.
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Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from
Arizona [Mr. Salmon], who is an outstanding freshman Member of this
body. He has spent a lot of time in China and Taiwan.
Mr. SALMON. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for giving me this
opportunity. This is something that every one of us has struggled with.
I know I have probably spent more time on this issue in the last 6
months than I have any other issue, because it really cuts to the core
of our values.
Of course we decry the human rights abuses that have happened in
China. They are terrible, they are vile. Of course we are very sick and
saddened by the nonproliferation issues that continue to be violated in
China. Of course we are saddened and we are upset by the fact that they
are pirating our software and our music and we are losing billions of
dollars because of that. Of course we are sickened and saddened, me
especially; having served a mission for my church in Taiwan, nobody was
angrier than I to see friends and loved ones over there that I worked
so long with for the 2 years, that I was there being threatened by
missiles in the Taiwan Strait when that occurred. When we look at all
of these terrible, terrible atrocities that are being committed in
China, I think the gut instinct is let us come down hard, let us show
them that we mean business. Let us get back to what John Wayne would do
and be tough with these guys and make them learn a lesson. But I fear
that throwing the baby out with the bath water is the worst thing that
we could possibly do.
Think about it. Has there ever been any relationship in your life
that you have improved upon or imparted your values to by walking away
from that relationship? Severing MFN with China would be tantamount to
a declaration of war, I believe, and would lead, I think, ultimately to
a cold war, because relationships would quickly deteriorate and
ultimately most sides would end up not communicating.
We in our Western understanding of things believe that we know that
the right thing to do is to be tough with these people, but let us look
at the idea of saving face that is so important to the Chinese culture.
I believe that the freedoms that we enjoy, the values that we hold
dearly, will only come to pass in China when the people in China rise
up and make it so. A great philosopher once said, more powerful than
any invading army or any tactic is an idea whose time has come. I
believe the idea of freedom is an idea whose time has come in China, as
it was in Taiwan about 20 years ago.
When I lived in Taiwan, it was an oppressive regime. You could not
speak out against the government. Freedom of the press was nonexistent.
But economic reform spurred political reform, and the same thing will
happen in China. But we have got to be articulate in our values. I
think the administration can do a better job, a much better job
articulating our values, but we will not improve anything if we walk
away from the table, and the very things that we care so deeply about
will be harmed irreparably if we walk away from this relationship.
Mr. MOAKLEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield 6 minutes to the gentlewoman from
California [Ms. Pelosi].
Mr. PELOSI. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from Massachusetts for
yielding me the time and rise in opposition to the rule, with all the
greatest regard for the chairman of the Committee on Rules and our
distinguished ranking member.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to the rule for the following
reason. This issue before the House of Representatives this evening is
a very important one to the American people. Nothing less is at stake
than our economic future, our democratic principles, and our national
security. That is why I oppose this rule, because this rule says that
tomorrow, while Members are away during a funeral and votes are not
going to happen until 3 o'clock, we will have our chance to debate the
rule while Members are not here. Then, after Members return, we will be
given 15 minutes to make our case against MFN for China. I cannot
support the
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curbing of debate that is happening in the House of Representatives
under this rule.
I know the distinguished chairman of the Rules Committee did his
best, but I think that this rule is an arrogant act on the part of the
Republican leadership to stifle debate here on this issue. What are
they afraid of? Are they afraid of the truth? Are the afraid of the
American people weighing in? Are they afraid, as we had hoped, that
this debate would take place when it always has in July? Are they
afraid of 100,000 young people who gathered in Golden Gate Park to
promote freedom of expression in Tibet, who heard from a monk who had
been imprisoned by the Chinese for 33 years describe his torture by the
Chinese, and who was freed only by international pressure led by the
Italian government? Are they afraid of those people?
Why can we not have this debate while Members who here in Congress?
Why can we not have the appropriate time, as we have always had, for
the grassroots people to weigh in? They believe, and I hope they are
always right, that their opinion makes a difference to their Member of
Congress and that they should have the opportunity for public comment
that the fast track of MFN allows, provides for, but that this
leadership in this House of Representatives has decided to curtail.
That is why I oppose the rule.
Let us talk about what is at stake. The previous speaker talked about
economic reform leading to political reform. Well, let us quote
directly from not my word but this administration's own country report
on China, on the subject of repression in China. The State Department
country report says, ``The experience of China in the past few years
demonstrates that while economic growth, trade and social mobility
create an improved standard of living, they cannot by themselves bring
about greater respect for human rights in the absence of a willingness
by political authorities to abide by the fundamental international
norms.'' It went on further to say that by year's end, this is 1995,
almost all public dissent against the public authorities was silenced.
Why is this important also in terms of proliferation? I said first
about our democratic principles being at stake. We talk about
democratic principles. We want to ban investment in Burma, no business
going on there. But when it comes to China, we cannot even raise a
tariff because some businesses might lose a profit on their bottom
line, because it is certainly not about American jobs. This is a job
loser for America.
We can see by this chart, Mr. Speaker, maybe you cannot, the trade
balance with China, when we started this debate in 1989, was reported
for 1988 to be $3,479 million. In that time, it has increased 1,000
percent. The trade deficit for last year as reported in this 7-year
period is $34 billion. Yes, that gives us leverage. It is not about any
country that has human rights abuses, dear ranking member. It is about
a country that has a $34 billion trade deficit with the United States,
which gives us leverage, which should give us leverage.
Certainly we are not going to revoke MFN for China; the President
will not allow it. We should certainly use our voices and our leverage
on that issue to send a strong message from this Congress at least that
we will stand for human rights. It is not enough to say they have merit
or that even they have priority but they are important enough for us to
use our muscle on them, our economic muscle on them.
In addition to this trade deficit, we have the transfer of technology
to China which businesses are doing. We are almost encouraging it so
they can access the market. We have the ripping off of our intellectual
property. That piracy is not even counted of the billions of dollars in
the trade deficit. So it is a better economic future. Where are our
jobs? If Boeing is transferring the production of the tail section of
their planes to China to be produced by workers who make $50 a month,
how can that be a job winner for us?
On the issue of proliferation, I said it undermined our democratic
principles, our moral authority to talk about human rights any place if
we cannot talk about it where some business is at stake.
Second, I talked about how this trade with China is robbing our
economic future. You want to do business in China? You open up a
factory there. You give your technology plans to the government, they
open up factories with your technology plans and tell you to create an
export plan for the products that you make in China.
This isn't about United States products made in China. Only 2 percent
of our exports are allowed into the Chinese market. Over one-third of
China's exports flood United States markets. Is this going to isolate
China? Where are they going to take one-third of their exports? Let us
be reasonable to the American worker.
The third issue is proliferation. I do not have too much time to go
into all of that except to say that this administration and the
administration before it has looked the other way on the proliferation
of missile technology and nuclear technology to Pakistan, of missile
technology, nuclear technology, biological technology and chemical
technology to Iran, at the same time as we are having nice little
resolutions about boycotting Iran and having a secondary boycott on
companies that invest in petroleum in Iran until Iran stops its
production of weapons of mass destruction. But we do not want to go to
the source, the source of that technology to Iran, because some big
businesses might lose a little bit of their access.
So this, I repeat, undermines our democratic principles, threatens
our economic future, and threatens our national security.
Mr. Speaker, I urge our colleagues to vote no on the rule and no on
MFN for China.
Mr. MOAKLEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman from
California [Mr. Matsui].
Mr. MATSUI. Mr. Speaker, first of all, I want to commend the
Committee on Rules for coming up with the rule they have. Obviously the
vote on the motion to disapprove will be allowed tomorrow and, of
course, the other piece of legislation will also be discussed, which
will mandate that the four committees of jurisdiction that have
jurisdiction over the issues that we are concerned about with China
will report back by September 30 after holding hearings and possible
legislation. I think it is a good solution in terms of crafting the
rule. I think we will be able to get to the nub of the issue with that
particular rule.
China is the most important relationship that the United States will
have over the next 25 years. China comprises 22 percent of the world
population. We cannot isolate the Chinese. If we walk away from the
Chinese, the Japanese, the Europeans, the Brazilians, every other
country will go into China.
So we have to engage the Chinese. I think, as the gentleman from
Arizona said, if we cut off MFN, that is tantamount to declaring war
with China. China then will become a very belligerent power. Right now
they are not expansionary, as we saw with the Soviet Union. But if
China should become expansionary and build up their armaments, then the
Japanese, then the South Koreans, then the Indonesians, then all of
Asia will build up arms and we will have a tinderbox in Asia for the
next 10 to 20 years and it will be a threat to world peace and a threat
to our children and grandchildren. That is why this issue is important.
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Now let me address for a moment the issue of the trade deficit. If we
can stop spending 6 months a year on the issue of Most Favored Nation
status with China, we can then get to the issues of opening up the
Chinese market. And we can do it by exercising section 301, just as we
saw last week on the issue of intellectual properties. What we did
there, if my colleagues will recall, is tell the Chinese we will impose
$2.3 billion worth of sanctions against them unless they come to an
agreement with us on the piracy of our intellectual property. They have
agreed with us.
Now, obviously, we are going to have to make sure that agreement is
enforced. But the fact of the matter is that the only way we are going
to be able to deal with the Chinese is by engaging them, not by trying
to isolate them, because that will not work. And the key obviously is
the fact that we must try to bring China into the civilized nations of
the world over time.
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So I would support this rule. I would obviously vote against the
motion that the gentleman of the Committee on Rules will offer, and
certainly support the gentleman's resolution that will require the four
committees to look into this matter, hold hearings and obviously pass
legislation should it become necessary.
Mr. Speaker, I urge adoption of this rule.
Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, I yield such time as he may consume to the
gentleman from California, Mr. Duke Cunningham, a member of the
Committee on National Security.
(Mr. CUNNINGHAM asked and was given permission to revise and extend
his remarks.)
Mr. CUNNINGHAM. Mr. Speaker, I rise in favor of the rule and in
opposition to MFN.
Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, I yield such time as he may consume to the
gentleman from Sanibel, FL [Mr. Goss], another valuable member of the
Committee on Rules.
(Mr. GOSS asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
Mr. GOSS. Mr. Speaker, I thank the distinguished gentleman from Glens
Falls, NY, and I rise in support of this eminently good and wise,
noncontroversial rule, and I am asking to revise and extend my remarks
in deference to my colleagues at this late hour, and I would suggest to
the gentlewoman from California that the problem is scheduling, not
rulemaking.
Mr. Speaker, I thank my friend from Glens Falls, the distinguished
chairman of the Rules Committee, for yielding me time.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of this rule, a rule that will allow
for the timely consideration of a bill to disapprove normalized trade
relations with China. Or, in the archaic language of diplomacy, we are
considering China's Most Favored Nation status, which the President has
recently renewed. MFN for China has become a perennial issue--year
after year we debate whether or not Congress should overrule the
decision to renew normal trade relations--there are no special deals
here--with China, the country with the largest population in the world.
I welcome the debate, but I will again oppose raising additional trade
barriers to one of the world's fastest growing economies. To do so
would cost American jobs and ultimately diminish western democratic
influence in this crucial region. I agree that China's leaders have
acted in bad faith in areas of human rights, arms trades, and
intellectual property. These problems must be addressed--and they will
be --through the proper channels. We cannot ignore our leadership
responsibilities in encouraging democratization and responsible actions
in China, but this is exactly what we would be doing if we quit the
field today. We must stay engaged in China in order to be a part of
the--admittedly slow--process of reform, because many of the reforms in
China that we have witnessed to this point have their roots in the free
flow of commerce between that country and the United States. So, I urge
my colleagues to support the rule, and oppose House Joint Resolution
182.
Mr. MOAKLEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from
Connecticut [Mr. Gejdenson].
Mr. GEJDENSON. Mr. Speaker, I think we have to examine what confronts
us here. It is not simply what the Chinese do, it is the magnitude to
which they can do it. If China was a country of 50, 60, 100 million,
even 200 million people, operating with the kind of system that they
operate under, we might be able to survive it; 50, 100 million people
working in a totally controlled economy, working in prison, slave
wages, slave manufacturing, we might be able to, through contact and
through constant pressures, make some progress here.
This is a country with 1.2 billion people. Before they have an impact
from our economic exchanges they will destroy the economic life of this
country if we do not alter the trading practice.
In the last 20 years we have seen the workweek wage of an average
factory worker in America drop by $60, not go up, but go down by $60 a
week. Sixty percent of Americans have lost ground on their paycheck as
a flood of Chinese goods have come into this country.
We talk about the French. The French would each have to buy $4,000
apiece in goods to replace America's demand to China. Forty-five
billion dollars of sales in this country does but one thing, it puts
American families at risk, it depresses American wages, and it goes on
to do damage to our environment.
We can put scrubbers on our factories and clean up the rivers and the
pollution that goes into the oceans. As China's economy grows, the
pollution it puts into the air and the rivers will continue to
devastate the environment of our globe: Missile technology, biotech
weapons, chemical weapons proliferated by the Chinese to Iran and every
other dangerous corner of the globe.
We were all saddened and frightened by the scene of American
personnel barracks in Saudi Arabia being hit by a traditional bomb.
What will happen when our Chinese trading partners ship to the Iranians
nuclear chemical and biological weapons? What kind of challenges will
confront us for the safety of American personnel and indeed the people
in this country as well?
China, to be dealt with as a normal trading partner in this global
community? Remember the Taiwanese elections a short time ago, as the
Taiwanese citizens went to the polls to exercise their right to vote
for a new congress and a new president? What did the Chinese government
do? They brought their fire power to the straits of Taiwan and tried to
intimidate the Taiwanese from a free election.
We have to defend the principles we believe in and the families we
represent. The only way to do that is to vote down MFN.
Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
Ohio [Mr. Brown].
Mr. BROWN of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from
Massachusetts for yielding me this time. I rise in opposition to the
rule.
As the gentleman from New York, Chairman Solomon, pointed out, this
MFN resolution should be given 20 hours of debate, guaranteed by
statute. But in a phenomenal show of arrogance, the Republican
leadership has said no.
This MFN debate reminds me a little bit of the Medicare debate;
Republicans choking off debate, the Gingrich leadership team cutting
back-room deals with powerful interest groups, consideration of the
legislation in the middle of the night.
This bill will cost millions, will cost millions of American jobs.
Our trade deficit with China, as my friend from California said, almost
nonexistent only a few years ago, has climbed to $32 billion a year and
rising. Within a couple of years it will surpass that of Japan.
MFN is an economic loser for America. We sell more to Belgium. As a
Nation we export more to Belgium than we do to China. Conversely, 40
percent of all of Chinese exports are sold into the United States.
Simply put, China needs us more than we need them.
How much more can China do to its people and how much more can China
do to rest of the world? How many more times can they stick their
thumbs in the eyes of their people and the rest of the world before we
in this body finally say to MFN? Massacring students in Beijing,
selling nuclear technology to rogue nations, slave labor camps,
illegally smuggling 2,000 AK-47s into the United States, forced
abortions and sterilizations, forcible seizure of Tibetan children,
forcing 12-year-old Chinese children to make toys for 12-year-old
American children.
It is time we say no to MFN. It is time we say no to the Chinese
government. It is time we say no to those abuses. Vote no on the rule,
vote no on MFN.
Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume
to say to the previous speaker that the way to be effective on the
floor of this Congress is to be as less partisan as we can.
If the gentleman would notice, even the gentlewoman from California
[Ms. Pelosi], the gentleman from Massachusetts [Mr. Moakley], and
myself and others have been critical of this administration and the
previous administrations. We have been critical of both political
parties. But when the gentleman stands up here and says the arrogance
of the Republican Party by limiting this debate, which should have 20
hours of debate, to 4 hours, let me tell him it was done on a
bipartisan basis and it was done, the same thing, under 15 consecutive
Democrat leaderships. So let us be bipartisan about this and keep it on
a high plane.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from Virginia
[Mr.
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Wolf]. On the highest plane I know, this man has been a leader and
advocate of human rights throughout the entire world for his entire
career here.
Mr. WOLF. Mr. Speaker, I do not even know what to say. I feel so
bound up inside about what we are doing tonight. This is fundamentally
an evil group of people. This is the evil empire of modern times.
They have Catholic priests and bishops in jail as we now speak who
are being tortured. They are torturing Buddhist monks and raping
Buddhist nuns. They have more slave labor gulag camps than they had
when Solzhenitsyn wrote ``Gulag Archipelago.'' They were selling AK-
47's and shoulder missiles that could take 747s out of the sky in
Boston, in Chicago, or in L.A.
This is a fundamentally evil group of people, and I worry that 3 or 4
years from now we will have to deal with those people on a military
basis. I wish we had a better piece of tandem legislation. The piece of
tandem legislation does not do. MFN? If they get it, fine, but we
should have abolished the People's Liberation Army and done all these
things that are important.
The last thing is, having served here since 1980, no Member of
Congress would have had the guts or the courage to come to this floor
during the 1980s, when Scharansky was in Perm Camp 35 and Sakharov was
under house arrest, no Member of Congress would have had the guts or
the courage to stand up and say that we should have given the Soviet
Union MFN. And now we are just clamoring to give it to a regime that is
the evil empire number one of this world.
I oppose the rule, but the rule is important. I just oppose MFN. I
think all of us have to ask ourselves, and the gentleman from New
Jersey, Chris Smith, said it better than anybody, what threshold do we
have in our own conscience that will make us finally say enough is
enough? If they continue to do next year what they have done this year,
raping nuns and imprisoning bishops and priests, what will be enough is
enough? Each person should ask their own conscience that because we
will have to deal with this issue again.
Mr. MOAKLEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from
Indiana [Mr. Roemer].
Mr. ROEMER. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding me this
time, and with all the admiration that I have, both in my head and in
my heart, for the gentleman from Virginia [Mr. Wolf] and the
gentlewoman from California [Ms. Pelosi] who are two very strong
advocates of human rights, it just shows even more strongly what a
tough issue this is for everybody.
I am a strong advocate for MFN. I seem to disagree with Mr. Wolf and
Ms. Pelosi on this particular issue, but it is not because I am not
outraged about MFN, or that I am not upset with the Chinese Government
for orphanages and abortion, or that I am not outraged at the Chinese
for the kinds of things that they do in ring sales and foreign sales to
the Pakistanis or into the Middles East. But I vote for MFN this year
because I vote for the American principles of democracy and human
rights, where we have as our pillar, in our foreign policy, that we
stress human rights more than any other country in the world.
Now, if we walk away from China, do we have confidence that the
Japanese are now going to begin to turn around China? I do not. Korea?
No. Europe? No. The United States, with President Carter and President
Bush and President Clinton, each one of those individuals can and
should do a better job in terms of future Presidents and bilateral
relations, stressing our human rights, but we must engage, we must
argue, we must debate this issue with maybe the most important country
for our citizens in the next 25 to 50 years: 1.3 billion people, the
largest standing army.
So for our principles of human rights, I believe we should engage
this country and not walk away.
Second, it is because MFN is in our best interests. We are not doing
a favor for the Chinese. We create American jobs by doing this. Not
right away, not enough with the trade deficit that we have, but let me
give Members a quick example.
In Indiana we make brakes for Boeing and McDonnell Douglas commercial
airliners. That market is not growing domestically. Our families that
get $16 and $17 an hour making these brakes for these commercial
airliners are not going to have these jobs if we just sell these
airliners to Arizona and California and New Jersey.
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But if we sell these airliners to Russia, to China, to Korea, to
Japan, we will continue to see wages go up for our workers. We will
continue to see better security for our work force, and hopefully it
will not just be airliners, it will be computers, it will be
manufacturing equipment, it will be a host of things. But I have
confidence, Mr. Speaker, that Americans will stand up for human rights
and will stand up and try to create better jobs for American families.
Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman from
Claremont, CA [Mr. Dreier], one of the outstanding free traders in this
Congress for the last, I guess, 16 years, vice chairman of our
Committee on Rules.
(Mr. DREIER asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
Mr. DREIER. Mr. Speaker, I am happy to be on the same side of the
issue with my chairman, the gentleman from New York [Mr. Solomon], in
supporting this rule. I happen to believe that it is a very fair and
balanced rule. It has come up in a very timely manner and, as Chairman
Solomon said earlier, it is following the procedure that we have gone
through in the past.
After 7 years of this debate, there is no question at all that the
membership of this House, even if they have served here for only 18
months, has had the chance to look at the issue of MFN for China.
Cutting off MFN would clearly hurt the United States. It seems to me
that, as we look at this question, ending normal relations with China
would be devastating. We have all acknowledged that we very much want
to do what we can to assist those who have been victimized by
reprehensible human rights violations that we have seen for the past
several years. Weapons transfers, saber rattling with Taiwan,
intellectual property rights violations, Tibet, all of these things are
priority concerns of ours.
The fact of the matter is we need to recognize that over the past
several years, while the situation was horrible on June 4, 1989, with
the Tiananmen Square massacre and many other murders have taken place,
we saw a video in our Republican conference yesterday showing that. But
if we compare the Cultural Revolution that took place under Mao Tse
Tung and the Great Leap Forward and the export of revolution as my
friend, the gentleman from Virginia [Mr. Wolf], discussed that took
place under Mao Tse Tung to the China of today, while it is not
perfect, it is still horrible, it is better than it was. Why? Because
today we are engaged.
We disengaged from China with Chiang Kai-shek in 1949, left for
Taiwan, up until the last several years, when Richard Nixon began that
opening in the 1970's. I will tell my colleagues that, as we look at
this issue, are we going to take a step backward and go back to the
policies where under Mao Tse Tung 60 million Chinese people were
starved, a million people during the Cultural Revolution were killed by
the government? The answer is a resounding ``no''. What we need to do
is we need to recognize that the single most powerful force for change
is the one that my party stands strongly for, and that is the free
market. We believe very strongly in the free market and the power of
it.
It is more powerful than any U.S. Government coercion that we could
possibly apply. The fact of the matter is, we join together, very much
wanting to address these concerns. This rule makes in order a
resolution which will allow us to look at the concerns that we will
allow us to look at the concerns that we all want to address. But to
disengage would be preposterous. The United States of America is the
third most populous Nation on the face of the Earth. Yet the People's
Republic of China has almost five times the population of the United
States.
The gentleman from California, Bob Matsui, my very dear friend, said
it perfectly. Over the next quarter century it is going to be the
single most important relationship that we have. It
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is very important that we maintain those ties. As I got on a plane, I
was stuck in Pittsburgh the night before last. I happened to sit next
to a Chinese American civil engineer from Iowa. He brought the issue up
to me saying: I lived through the cultural revolution. It was very,
very difficult. I saw friends who were victims of the human rights
violations, and people were starving. Today when I talk to my family,
things have improved. Let us not go back to those horrible times in the
past. Let us address our concerns today and move forward.
Support this rule and defeat the resolution of disapproval.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. (Mr. LaHood). The gentleman from New York
[Mr. Solomon] has 12 minutes remaining, and the gentleman from
Massachusetts [Mr. Moakley] has 9 minutes remaining.
Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from
Miami, FL [Mr. Diaz-Balart], another very valuable member of the
Committee on Rules.
Mr. DIAZ-BALART. Mr. Speaker, last week I finished reading a
biography of a Father Maximillian Kolbe, now Saint Maximillian Kolbe.
He died at Auschwitz. Pope John Paul has called him the patron saint of
our century. In that biography, I learned the name of the company that
in August of 1942 was given the contract to build 4 vast crematoria
with gas chambers at Auschwitz. The name of the company was Topf and
Sohne.
The other company that I learned about, I.G. Farbenindustrie, shared
in the profits with the Nazis from the slave labor in the concentration
camps.
I wonder if Hitler had not invaded Poland, maybe even afterwards if
we had been willing to sit down and reach a peace agreement with him,
whether we would not be having tonight's discussion perhaps each year
with regard to MFN with the so-called Third Reich. Could we have
stopped the construction of the crematoriums had there been engagement?
Coexistence with Hitler? Probably not. But would it have been better
for an American company to construct the crematoriums than a German
company or a French company or a Canadian company? I do not believe so,
Mr. Speaker.
I recognize that each situation has its peculiarities in each nation
that we deal with. I recognize that China is geographically distanced
to the United States and economically very powerful. But I cannot and I
will not vote to continue a normal economic relationship with that
government that our colleague, Mr. Wolf, has so eloquently described,
as well as Mr. Solomon, that government of opprobrium.
Mr. MOAKLEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield 4 minutes to the gentlewoman from
Ohio [Ms. Kaptur].
Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, I yield 30 seconds to the gentlewoman from
Ohio [Ms. Kaptur].
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentlewoman from Ohio, [Ms. Kapture] is
recognized for 4 minutes and 30 seconds.
Ms. KAPTUR. Mr. Speaker, I want to thank the gentlemen for yielding
time to me.
I rise in strong opposition to this rule and certainly in strong
opposition to MFN. This rule was concocted late last night in the wee
hours, around midnight, when none of the Members were here except but a
few of us who overheard that there might be a meeting up there in the
third corner, none of the press was around.
What we have here is merely another attempt by Speaker Gingrich and
Mr. Armey to railroad debate in this House on a measure so vital to the
American people as well as to the cause of liberty in China. Under
normal circumstances, I guess it would be said, but I am so outraged
that it is hard to be sad as we consider this here this evening. In
Washington it is now nearly 1 a.m., and most of the membership has gone
home. People here are bleary-eyed, and yet this is what we are
subjected to.
Tomorrow when most of our membership is gone, we will try to attempt
to take up the merits of this.What disrespect we show to Bill Emerson,
our dear colleague, by the manner in which this is being conducted.
I also want to say to my good friend, the gentlewoman from
California, Congresswoman Pelosi, and to the gentleman from Virginia,
Frank Wolf, this Chamber should treat you better. Everyone of our
colleagues who is here and who is a party to this deplorable rule and
the manner in which it is being considered, shame on you. Shame on you.
Shame on you, Speaker Gingrich, wherever you are. You were out here
making noise a few minutes ago, and Mr. Armey, for not showing the
courtesy to the Members who have worked so hard to represent the best
values that we represent as a country.
But do you know what? I have been at this podium before. I have the
benefit of 14 years of seniority in this people's House. I remember
when they railroaded GATT through here. Boy, do I remember that. I
remember standing in this well and saying, American people, remember
this one. I remember some of the Members in here snickered. Do you know
what? They do. And I remember the NAFTA vote. I remember we almost
carried it, and then 63 deals were made. And do you know what? The
American people, they remember that, too.
And now we have got China MFN. It is merely another battle in a war,
but it is out there in the country because the country ultimately
learns what happens here no matter how hard we try to muzzle debate. In
this legislation, the United States becomes the most unfavored nation,
the most unfavored nation.
Take a look here. Every single year that we have had most-favored-
nation, what a misnomer that is, the United States has amassed growing
trade deficits with China. Until this year, we are at a level of over
$40 billion, which translates into an additional loss at home of
800,000 jobs in this country. By names of companies you know: Nike, we
have got Members here who are going to sell out for tennis shoes. We
have got members in this Chamber, why, by golly, they are going to sell
out for Wal-Mart, 700 sweatshops over in China that make that junk that
they send in over to our shores. Well, Bill Clinton gets a lot of money
from Sam Walton's family. I feel sad about that. But I care more about
freedom and the way people are treated.
We have got some Members here who are going to sell out for Barbie
dolls when the vote comes up here tonight and tomorrow. How sad.
You have an accounting to do in a higher life for the votes you will
cast on this issue. Commercialism, that is what has become the basis of
our foreign policy in the post-cold war world in which we are living.
In fact, the words of democracy, the hope for democracy, respect for
the rule of law, the dignity of working people, the promotion of a
sustainable environment, those are all illusions as we stand here in
this Chamber this evening.
We have no evidence that China has done anything to warrant this
favored treatment which will give them a 2 percent tariff level of
goods into our market while they maintain a 30 percent to 40 percent
tariff against our goods. And they now have the second largest amount
of dollars reserves in the world, $70 billion, which they use to buy
weapons pointed at us and at their neighbors. So that is what China MFN
creates.
What a shame. What a shame. Maintaining the status quo by voting for
MFN is a disgrace.
Mr. MOAKLEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from New
Jersey [Mr. Pallone].
Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Speaker, we have heard the arguments over and over:
by engaging with China, we can influence the behavior of the Chinese
Government with regards to fair trade, human and labor rights, and
proliferation. Members on both sides of the aisle have repeatedly
expressed skepticism about this approach, and events continue to prove
us right.
Recently, a disturbing new rationale for denying MFN has come to
light: China has become the major contributor to weapons proliferation
and instability in Asia, with Pakistan being one of the major
recipients of Chinese nuclear technology and delivery systems.
As has been reported in the media recently, there is undeniable
evidence from our own intelligence agencies that Pakistan has deployed
nuclear-capable Chinese M-11 missiles, obtained through a secretive
transfers that both countries have tried to cover up. Yet, incredibly,
despite the overwhelming evidence, the administration seems unwilling
to impose the tough economic that both nations clearly deserve.
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Unfortunately, this is not the first time that the dangerous,
destabilizing transfers of advanced weapons and nuclear technology from
China to Pakistan have gone unpunished. Earlier this year, we failed to
punish China or Pakistan for the transfer of 5,000 ring magnets,
devices used for the production of weapons-grade enriched uranium. We
officially bought into the unbelievable Chinese Government explanation
that they were unaware of the transfer. We also went ahead with the
transfer of $368 million in United States conventional weapons to
Pakistan.
Mr. Speaker, it's time to get tough with China, Pakistan and other
nations contributing to the spread of nuclear weapons. Denying MFN to
China is a good place to start, an effective way to show that we're
serious about nonproliferation.
{time} 0045
Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman
from California [Mr. Rohrabacher], one of the Members of this Congress
I love to listen to because he speaks right from his heart. He is one
of the leading advocates for human rights in this entire Congress.
Mr. ROHRABACKER. Mr. Speaker, I would like to share with Members of
this body a notice that I just received in the mail. It seems that the
Citizens for a Sound Economy are going to count my vote against most-
favored-nation status against me when they are trying to calculate
whether or not they will present to me next year's Jefferson Award.
How about that?
As far as I am concerned, the Citizens for a Sound Economy can take
their award, and they can take it back, and what they can do is they
can rename it the ``Mao Award'' or they can rename it the ``Lenin
Prize'' or the ``Goebbels Award,'' or whatever award they want, but
they are insulting the Members of this Congress by calling it a
Jefferson Award and then counting it against us for voting not to give
world's worst tyranny an advantageous trading relationship with this
country.
Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. ROHRABACHER. I yield to the gentleman from New York.
Mr. SOLOMON. If the gentleman would do me a favor, if he is sending
his back, would he put mine in the same box?
Mr. ROHRABACHER. It is unbelievable.
We have heard today the charge that those of us who are opposed to
most-favored-nation status for China are talking about isolating and
walking away from China. That is not the case. China is not a country
to be ignored, but right now it is being run by tyrants and despots,
and they are not a group of people that we should be providing
advantageous trade relations with our own people.
The question is whether or not Communist China should continue to
enjoy the advantageous trade relationship that it has because it is
enjoying the same trade relationship that we give to democratic
countries. No one is talking about walking away, no one is talking
about an embargo, no one is talking about isolating China, but does any
one really believe we should give these dictators, these people who are
bullying their own neighbors, who are stepping on the faces of their
own people with their combat boots, we should give them advantageous
trade relationship with our country?
Every year since 1989, when the Tiananmen Square democracy advocates
were massacred, we have seen the situation in China to continue to
decline. The theory is, if we engage them, if we trade with them, give
them this most advantageous trade relationship with us, things will get
better. That is nothing more than a theory, and it is being proven
wrong in practice. To continue to have our policies based on a theory
that is not working is totally insane, and we will pay a price. In
fact, the American people are already paying the price for that
insanity.
Granting most-favored-nation status to China while it is going in the
wrong direction is exactly the wrong signal to send to these despots.
What we are doing is encouraging those dictators to continue their
repression, and we are demoralizing those elements in China that want a
better world.
Whose side are we on as we celebrate our fourth of July? Are we on
the side of our own working people, on the side of those people who
struggle for democracy, or are we just on the side of corporate
profits? I do not believe that is what this country was founded on.
Mr. MOAKLEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, at the beginning of this Congress the Republican
majority claimed that the House was going to consider bills under an
open process. I would like to point out that 60 percent of the
legislation this session has been considered under a restrictive
process.
Mr. Speaker, I include the following extraneous material for the
record:
The material referred to is as follows:
FLOOR PROCEDURE IN THE 104TH CONGRESS 1ST SESSION; COMPILED BY THE RULES COMMITTEE DEMOCRATS
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Process used for floor Amendments in
Bill No. Title Resolution No. consideration order
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
H.R. 1*........................ Compliance........ H. Res. 6 Closed................ None.
H. Res. 6...................... Opening Day Rules H. Res. 5 Closed................ None.
Package.
H.R. 5*........................ Unfunded Mandates. H. Res. 38 Restrictive........... N/A.
H.J. Res. 2*................... Balanced Budget... H. Res. 44 Restrictive........... 2R; 4D.
H. Res. 43..................... Committee Hearings H. Res. 43 (OJ) Restrictive........... N/A.
Scheduling.
H.R. 101....................... To transfer a H. Res. 51 Open.................. N/A.
parcel of land to
the Taos Pueblo
Indians of New
Mexico.
H.R. 400....................... To provide for the H. Res. 52 Open.................. N/A.
exchange of lands
within Gates of
the Arctic
National Park
Preserve.
H.R. 440....................... To provide for the H. Res. 53 Open.................. N/A.
conveyance of
lands to certain
individuals in
Butte County,
California.
H.R. 2*........................ Line Item Veto.... H. Res. 55 Open.................. N/A.
H.R. 665*...................... Victim Restitution H. Res. 61 Open.................. N/A.
Act of 1995.
H.R. 666*...................... Exclusionary Rule H. Res. 60 Open.................. N/A.
Reform Act of
1995.
H.R. 667*...................... Violent Criminal H. Res. 63 Restrictive........... N/A.
Incarceration Act
of 1995.
H.R. 668*...................... The Criminal Alien H. Res. 69 Open.................. N/A.
Deportation
Improvement Act.
H.R. 728*...................... Local Government H. Res. 79 Restrictive........... N/A.
Law Enforcement
Block Grants.
H.R. 7*........................ National Security H. Res. 83 Restrictive........... N/A.
Revitalization
Act.
H.R. 729*...................... Death Penalty/ N/A Restrictive........... N/A.
Habeas.
S. 2........................... Senate Compliance. N/A Closed................ None.
H.R. 831....................... To Permanently H. Res. 88 Restrictive........... 1D.
Extend the Health
Insurance
Deduction for the
Self-Employed.
H.R. 830*...................... The Paperwork H. Res. 91 Open.................. N/A.
Reduction Act.
H.R. 889....................... Emergency H. Res. 92 Restrictive........... 1D.
Supplemental/
Rescinding
Certain Budget
Authority.
H.R. 450*...................... Regulatory H. Res. 93 Restrictive........... N/A.
Moratorium.
H.R. 1022*..................... Risk Assessment... H. Res. 96 Restrictive........... N/A.
H.R. 926*...................... Regulatory H. Res. 100 Open.................. N/A.
Flexibility.
H.R. 925*...................... Private Property H. Res. 101 Restrictive........... 1D.
Protection Act.
H.R. 1058*..................... Securities H. Res. 105 Restrictive........... 1D.
Litigation Reform
Act.
H.R. 988*...................... The Attorney H. Res. 104 Restrictive........... N/A.
Accountability
Act of 1995.
H.R. 956*...................... Product Liability H. Res. 109 Restrictive........... 8D; 7R.
and Legal Reform
Act.
H.R. 1158...................... Making Emergency H. Res. 115 Restrictive........... N/A.
Supplemental
Appropriations
and Rescissions.
H.J. Res. 73*.................. Term Limits....... H. Res. 116 Restrictive........... 1D; 3R
H.R. 4*........................ Welfare Reform.... H. Res. 119 Restrictive........... 5D; 26R.
H.R. 1271*..................... Family Privacy Act H. Res. 125 Open.................. N/A.
H.R. 660*...................... Housing for Older H. Res. 126 Open.................. N/A.
Persons Act.
H.R. 1215*..................... The Contract With H. Res. 129 Restrictive........... 1D.
America Tax
Relief Act of
1995.
H.R. 483....................... Medicare Select H. Res. 130 Restrictive........... 1D.
Extension.
H.R. 655....................... Hydrogen Future H. Res. 136 Open.................. N/A.
Act.
H.R. 1361...................... Coast Guard H. Res. 139 Open.................. N/A.
Authorization.
H.R. 961....................... Clean Water Act... H. Res. 140 Open.................. N/A.
H.R. 535....................... Corning National H. Res. 144 Open.................. N/A.
Fish Hatchery
Conveyance Act.
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H.R. 584....................... Conveyance of the H. Res. 145 Open.................. N/A.
Fairport National
Fish Hatchery to
the State of Iowa.
H.R. 614....................... Conveyance of the H. Res. 146 Open.................. N/A.
New London
National Fish
Hatchery
Production
Facility.
H. Con. Res. 67................ Budget Resolution. H. Res. 149 Restrictive........... 3D; 1R.
H.R. 1561...................... American Overseas H. Res. 155 Restrictive........... N/A.
Interests Act of
1995.
H.R. 1530...................... National Defense H. Res. 164 Restrictive........... 36R; 18D; 2
Authorization Bipartisan.
Act; FY 1996.
H.R. 1817...................... Military H. Res. 167 Open.................. N/A.
Construction
Appropriations;
FY 1996.
H.R. 1854...................... Legislative Branch H. Res. 169 Restrictive........... 5R; 4D; 2
Appropriations. Bipartisan.
H.R. 1868...................... Foreign Operations H. Res. 170 Open.................. N/A.
Appropriations.
H.R. 1905...................... Energy & Water H. Res. 171 Open.................. N/A.
Appropriations.
H.J. Res. 79................... Constitutional H. Res. 173 Closed................ N/A.
Amendment to
Permit Congress
and States to
Prohibit the
Physical
Desecration of
the American Flag.
H.R. 1944...................... Recissions Bill... H. Res. 175 Restrictive........... N/A.
H.R. 1868 (2nd rule)........... Foreign Operations H. Res. 177 Restrictive........... N/A.
Appropriations.
H.R. 1977 *Rule Defeated*...... Interior H. Res. 185 Open.................. N/A.
Appropriations.
H.R. 1977...................... Interior H. Res. 187 Open.................. N/A.
Appropriations.
H.R. 1976...................... Agriculture H. Res. 188 Open.................. N/A.
Appropriations.
H.R. 1977 (3rd rule)........... Interior H. Res. 189 Restrictive........... N/A.
Appropriations.
H.R. 2020...................... Treasury Postal H. Res. 190 Open.................. N/A.
Appropriations.
H.J. Res. 96................... Disapproving MFN H. Res. 193 Restrictive........... N/A.
for China.
H.R. 2002...................... Transportation H. Res. 194 Open.................. N/A.
Appropriations.
H.R. 70........................ Exports of Alaskan H. Res. 197 Open.................. N/A.
North Slope Oil.
H.R. 2076...................... Commerce, Justice H. Res. 198 Open.................. N/A.
Appropriations.
H.R. 2099...................... VA/HUD H. Res. 201 Open.................. N/A.
Appropriations.
S. 21.......................... Termination of H. Res. 204 Restrictive........... 1D.
U.S. Arms Embargo
on Bosnia.
H.R. 2126...................... Defense H. Res. 205 Open.................. N/A.
Appropriations.
H.R. 1555...................... Communications Act H. Res. 207 Restrictive........... 2R/3D/3 Bi-
of 1995. partisan.
H.R. 2127...................... Labor/HHS H. Res. 208 Open.................. N/A.
Appropriations
Act.
H.R. 1594...................... Economically H. Res. 215 Open.................. N/A.
Targeted
Investments.
H.R. 1655...................... Intelligence H. Res. 216 Restrictive........... N/A.
Authorization.
H.R. 1162...................... Deficit Reduction H. Res. 218 Open.................. N/A.
Lock Box.
H.R. 1670...................... Federal H. Res. 219 Open.................. N/A.
Acquisition
Reform Act of
1995.
H.R. 1617...................... To Consolidate and H. Res. 222 Open.................. N/A.
Reform Workforce
Development and
Literacy Programs
Act (CAREERS).
H.R. 2274...................... National Highway H. Res. 224 Open.................. N/A.
System
Designation Act
of 1995.
H.R. 927....................... Cuban Liberty and H. Res. 225 Restrictive........... 2R/2D.
Democratic
Solidarity Act of
1995.
H.R. 743....................... The Teamwork for H. Res. 226 Open.................. N/A.
Employees and
Managers Act of
1995.
H.R. 1170...................... 3-Judge Court for H. Res. 227 Open.................. N/A.
Certain
Injunctions.
H.R. 1601...................... International H. Res. 228 Open.................. N/A.
Space Station
Authorization Act
of 1995.
H.J. Res. 108.................. Making Continuing H. Res. 230 Closed................ ..............
Appropriations
for FY 1996.
H.R. 2405...................... Omnibus Civilian H. Res. 234 Open.................. N/A.
Science
Authorization Act
of 1995.
H.R. 2259...................... To Disapprove H. Res. 237 Restrictive........... 1D.
Certain
Sentencing
Guideline
Amendments.
H.R. 2425...................... Medicare H. Res. 238 Restrictive........... 1D.
Preservation Act.
H.R. 2492...................... Legislative Branch H. Res. 239 Restrictive........... N/A.
Appropriations
Bill.
H.R. 2491...................... 7 Year Balanced H. Res. 245 Restrictive........... 1D.
H. Con. Res. 109............... Budget
Reconciliation
Social Security
Earnings Test
Reform.
H.R. 1833...................... Partial Birth H. Res. 251 Closed................ N/A.
Abortion Ban Act
of 1995.
H.R. 2546...................... D.C. H. Res. 252 Restrictive........... N/A.
Appropriations FY
1996.
H.J. Res. 115.................. Further Continuing H. Res. 257 Closed................ N/A.
Appropriations
for FY 1996.
H.R. 2586...................... Temporary Increase H. Res. 258 Restrictive........... 5R.
in the Statutory
Debt Limit.
H.R. 2539...................... ICC Termination... H. Res. 259 Open.................. ..............
H.J. Res. 115.................. Further Continuing H. Res. 261 Closed................ N/A.
Appropriations
for FY 1996.
H.R. 2586...................... Temporary Increase H. Res. 262 Closed................ N/A.
in the Statutory
Limit on the
Public Debt.
H. Res. 250.................... House Gift Rule H. Res. 268 Closed................ 2R.
Reform.
H.R. 2564...................... Lobbying H. Res. 269 Open.................. N/A.
Disclosure Act of
1995.
H.R. 2606...................... Prohibition on H. Res. 273 Restrictive........... N/A.
Funds for Bosnia
Deployment.
H.R. 1788...................... Amtrak Reform and H. Res. 289 Open.................. N/A.
Privatization Act
of 1995.
H.R. 1350...................... Maritime Security H. Res. 287 Open.................. N/A.
Act of 1995.
H.R. 2621...................... To Protect Federal H. Res. 293 Closed................ N/A.
Trust Funds.
H.R. 1745...................... Utah Public Lands H. Res. 303 Open.................. N/A.
Management Act of
1995.
H. Res. 304.................... Providing for N/A Closed................ 1D; 2R.
Debate and
Consideration of
Three Measures
Relating to U.S.
Troop Deployments
in Bosnia.
H. Res. 309.................... Revised Budget H. Res. 309 Closed................ N/A.
Resolution.
H.R. 558....................... Texas Low-Level H. Res. 313 Open.................. N/A.
Radioactive Waste
Disposal Compact
Consent Act.
H.R. 2677...................... The National Parks H. Res. 323 Closed................ N/A.
and National
Wildlife Refuge
Systems Freedom
Act of 1995.
PROCEDURE IN THE 104TH CONGRESS 2D SESSION
H.R. 1643...................... To authorize the H. Res. 334 Closed................ N/A.
extension of
nondiscriminatory
treatment (MFN)
to the products
of Bulgaria.
H.J. Res. 134.................. Making continuing H. Res. 336 Closed................ N/A.
H. Con. Res. 131............... appropriations/
establishing
procedures making
the transmission
of the continuing
resolution H.J.
Res. 134.
H.R. 1358...................... Conveyance of H. Res. 338 Closed................ N/A.
National Marine
Fisheries Service
Laboratory at
Gloucester,
Massachusetts.
H.R. 2924...................... Social Security H. Res. 355 Closed................ N/A.
Guarantee Act.
H.R. 2854...................... The Agricultural H. Res. 366 Restrictive........... 5D; 9R; 2
Market Transition Bipartisan.
Program.
H.R. 994....................... Regulatory Sunset H. Res. 368 Open rule; Rule tabled N/A.
& Review Act of
1995.
H.R. 3021...................... To Guarantee the H. Res. 371 Closed rule........... N/A.
Continuing Full
Investment of
Social Security
and Other Federal
Funds in
Obligations of
the United States.
H.R. 3019...................... A Further H. Res. 372 Restrictive........... 2D/2R.
Downpayment
Toward a Balanced
Budget.
H.R. 2703...................... The Effective H. Res. 380 Restrictive........... 6D; 7R; 4
Death Penalty and Bipartisan.
Public Safety Act
of 1996.
H.R. 2202...................... The Immigration H. Res. 384 Restrictive........... 12D; 19R; 1
and National Bipartisan.
Interest Act of
1995.
H.J. Res. 165.................. Making further H. Res. 386 Closed................ N/A.
continuing
appropriations
for FY 1996.
H.R. 125....................... The Gun Crime H. Res. 388 Closed................ N/A.
Enforcement and
Second Amendment
Restoration Act
of 1996.
H.R. 3136...................... The Contract With H. Res. 391 Closed................ N/A.
America
Advancement Act
of 1996.
H.R. 3103...................... The Health H. Res. 392 Restrictive........... N/A.
Coverage
Availability and
Affordability Act
of 1996.
H.J. Res. 159.................. Tax Limitation H. Res. 395 Restrictive........... 1D
Constitutional
Amendment.
H.R. 842....................... Truth in Budgeting H. Res. 396 Open.................. N/A.
Act.
H.R. 2715...................... Paperwork H. Res. 409 Open.................. N/A.
Elimination Act
of 1996.
H.R. 1675...................... National Wildlife H. Res. 410 Open.................. N/A.
Refuge
Improvement Act
of 1995.
H.J. Res. 175.................. Further Continuing H. Res. 411 Closed................ N/A.
Appropriations
for FY 1996.
H.R. 2641...................... United States H. Res. 418 Open.................. N/A.
Marshals Service
Improvement Act
of 1996.
H.R. 2149...................... The Ocean Shipping H. Res. 419 Open.................. N/A.
Reform Act.
H.R. 2974...................... To amend the H. Res. 421 Open.................. N/A.
Violent Crime
Control and Law
Enforcement Act
of 1994 to
provide enhanced
penalties for
crimes against
elderly and child
victims.
H.R. 3120...................... To amend Title 18, H. Res. 422 Open.................. N/A.
United States
Code, with
respect to
witness
retaliation,
witness tampering
and jury
tampering.
H.R. 2406...................... The United States H. Res. 426 Open.................. N/A.
Housing Act of
1996.
H.R. 3322...................... Omnibus Civilian H. Res. 427 Open.................. N/A.
Science
Authorization Act
of 1996.
H.R. 3286...................... The Adoption H. Res. 428 Restrictive........... 1D; 1R.
Promotion and
Stability Act of
1996.
H.R. 3230...................... Defense H. Res. 430 Restrictive........... 41 amends;
Authorization 20D; 17R; 4
Bill FY 1997. bipartisan
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H.R. 3415...................... Repeal of the 4.3- H. Res. 436 Closed................ N/A.
Cent Increase in
Transporation
Fuel Taxes.
H.R. 3259...................... Intelligence H. Res. 437 Restrictive........... N/A.
Authorization Act
for FY 1997.
H.R. 3144...................... The Defend America H. Res. 438 Restrictive........... 1D.
Act.
H.R. 3448/H.R. 1227............ The Small Business H. Res. 440 Restrictive........... 2R.
Job Protection
Act of 1996, and
The Employee
Commuting
Flexibility Act
of 1996.
H.R. 3517...................... Military H. Res. 442 Open.................. N/A.
Construction
Appropriations FY
1997.
H.R. 3540...................... Foreign Operations H. Res. 445 Open.................. N/A.
Appropriations FY
1997.
H.R. 3562...................... The Wisconsin H. Res. 446 Restrictive........... N/A.
Works Waiver
Approval Act.
H.R. 2754...................... Shipbuilding Trade H. Res. 448 Restrictive........... 1R.
Agreement Act.
H.R. 3603...................... Agriculture H. Res. 451 Open.................. N/A.
Appropriations FY
1997.
H.R. 3610...................... Defense H. Res. 453 Open.................. N/A.
Appropriations FY
1997.
H.R. 3662...................... Interior H. Res. 455 Open.................. N/A.
Appropriations FY
1997.
H.R. 3666...................... VA/HUD H. Res. 456 Open.................. N/A.
Appropriations.
H.R. 3675...................... Transportation H. Res. 460 Open.................. N/A.
Appropriations FY
1997.
H.J. Res. 182/H.Res 461........ Disapproving MFN H. Res. 463 Closed................ N/A.
Status for the
Peoples Republic
of China.
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* Contract Bills, 67% restrictive; 33% open. ** All legislation 1st Session, 53% restrictive; 47% open. *** All
legislation 2d Session, 60% restrictive; 40% open. **** All legislation 104th Congress, 56% restrictive; 44%
open. ***** NR indicates that the legislation being considered by the House for amendment has circumvented
standard procedure and was never reported from any House committee. ****** PQ Indicates that previous question
was ordered on the resolution. ******* Restrictive rules are those which limit the number of amendments which
can be offered, and include so-called modified open and modified closed rules as well as completely closed
rules and rules providing for consideration in the House as opposed to the Committee of the Whole. This
definition of restrictive rule is taken from the Republican chart of resolutions reported from the Rules
Committee in the 103d Congress. N/A means not available.
Mr. Speaker, I yield the balance of the time to the outstanding
gentleman from New York [Mr. Rangel], the next chairman of the
Committee on Ways and Means.
(Mr. RANGEL asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
Mr. RANGEL. Now, that was a real introduction.
Mr. Speaker, I thought the name of this game was how to get economic
growth. I now find that this foreign policy, this trade policy, that
normally set by the President with bipartisan support, is now dependent
on just how much we hate these bums that are running China, and If I
had only known that, I would not even know why we are doing business
with Japan. I mean I wan younger then, but it seemed to me that they
were not very nice people then. And Germany; my God, the atrocities
that were committed then. And Italy; they were not considered friends
of ours. My God.
And when it comes to personal experience, those North Koreans, they
were chasing me all around North Korea, and the Chinese shot me. And
still we got sanctions against Cuba, and really they have not bothered
me too much.
But the truth of the matter is, what are sanctions, and what is most-
favored-nation treatment? It is not most favored nation. We are saying,
if the United States does not get there first, then our so-called
friends are going to get there. We also are saying if we get out of
there, our great friends will be in there before we can pull out our
equipment.
And so this is not a question about who you like and who you do not
like, because I am certain that this is not going to be an anti-
Communist type of thing with my friends supporting trade with North
Vietnam, with my friends supporting trade with North Korea. My God, the
Communists, all around us. They are just not shooting us, they are
buying things from us, and they are creating jobs from us, and what
choices do we have?
If we apply sanctions against them and it is a unilateral sanction,
how do we hurt them? We do not have any friends in the United Nations
that can depend on our credibility. We now have already told the United
Nations, ``Elect who you want for a secretary general, we're vetoing
ahead of time.''
We now told people that are doing trade with this little island in
the Caribbean, ``You dare do trade with them,'' or, ``You do trade,
have your companies any place where any Cuban says he has a piece of
land, and we're going to take away your visas and have sanctions
against you.''
Who believes us any more? Why cannot the United States have
credibility? Why cannot we believe in something and say what the name
of the game is? Do we want to find atrocities? Answer: ``You bet your
life.'' And we are doing business in Africa with countries. We say we
are going to have sanctions against Nigeria. Who is joining us with the
sanctions? If we are going to hurt somebody, make certain that we win
and stop teasing around throwing out sanctions or we are not going to
trade with them when other people are going to trade.
I say, ``Don't hurt yourself just because you're dealing with a bunch
of bums. You're dealing with 1.2 billion dollars' worth of good people
led by a bunch of bums. Well, what's your option? You just going to
say, `I quit; I am not going to play the game; you didn't pass the
personality test'?''
It is dollars and cents. It is hard bucks.
They already said we have to balance the budget, and of course my
President now finds it very convenient to adopt most of these ideas. He
says balance the budget. He already said we have to cut revenues, and
my President says, makes some sense, too: We have got to have tax cuts.
He already said that we have to shrink Government. Well, my God,
Government is being shrunk. But a strange thing is happening in this
country, and that is that the old people are living older, and since
they believe the answer to every social ill that we have are
penitentiaries, they are building more jails.
Oh, we are not going to spend on education; leave that to the local
kids. Well, the local kids are failing, they are in the street, they
are jobless, they are ignorant, they have no training, they end up with
drugs, making kids, getting violent, going to jail.
Oh, how are we going to deal with that? Well, the only name that we
have in town is expanding the economy, and the only way we can expand
the economy is not consuming everything that we make but by selling it
to somebody even if we do not like the people we are selling it to.
Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, I am going to be yielding myself the
balance of the time, but in doing so I will yield up to a minute to the
gentleman from California [Mr. Dreier].
Mr. DREIER. Mr. Speaker, I thank my dear friend from Glens Falls for
yielding to me, and I do so simply to respond to the statement that was
made about the Citizens for a Sound Economy and by my very dear friend
from California who reminds me that we agree over 90 percent of the
time on issues, as I do with many of my friends on this side of the
aisle who disagree with me on this question.
Citizens for a Sound Economy feels very strongly about the need to
extend MFN because, if we were to cut off trade with China, we would
clearly be hurting most the people we want to help here in the United
States; the reason being, CSE opposes tax increases. They very much
want to cut the tax burden on those working Americans who benefit from
toys, shoes, and clothing, and what is necessary is for us to do
everything that we can to maintain that. It would be a $600 million tax
increase. CSE stands for free trade and lower taxes, and that is the
reason they have taken the position that they have.
Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself the balance of the time.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from New York [Mr. Solomon] is
recognized for 5 minutes.
Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, I was simply going to urge every Member of
the House to come over here and vote for this rule. It is a fair rule.
It is the kind of rule that we have had for 17 consecutive years when
we continued to renew MFN for China all these years, so there is no
reason for any of us to vote against it, and then I would urge my
colleagues to vote for the resolution of disapproval for all of the
reasons we have said before.
But I just have to respond a little bit because, as I look at this
little note that is going around from the Citizens for a Sound Economy,
and I look at
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what it says, it says that, ``We may not give you this Jefferson Award
again if you vote against giving MFN for China.''
As my colleagues know, to me that is intimidation at its worst. I
wonder if they have PAC checks, and now they are not going to give
Jerry Solomon a PAC check. Well, let me just tell them, ``If you have
them, why don't you keep them? I don't want it; OK?'' And any other
industry who does not want to give Jerry Solomon a PAC check because he
is going to vote for this motion to disapprove MFN for China because he
believes in human rights for decent people and American foreign policy
through all Presidents, whether they be Republican or Democrat, has
always been to promote democracies around the world and to encourage
human rights for all people. That is what this is all about.
I really resent this, and I am going to send mine back along with the
gentleman's, but having said that, let us get back to what I think we
all ought to vote for, this rule, and then take the bill up tomorrow,
and let us vote to disapprove MFN for China, and then let us pass the
resolution that talks about all of the rogue activities of this
dictatorship with arms sales and with all of the activities that they
undertake.
Mr. BEILENSON. Mr. Speaker, I have serious concerns about this rule
and about the bill it makes in order.
I am strongly opposed to the protection that the rule provides for
the legislative provision that freezes fuel economy, or CAFE, standards
for the second year in a row. This is unwarranted protection for a
controversial and major provision which should not be in an
appropriations bill.
This legislative rider is a blatant attack on the environment;
support for the fuel economy standards freeze is, in fact, opposition
to pollution reduction, national energy security, and consumer savings
at the gasoline pump.
By reducing oil consumption, CAFE standards have been enormously
successful in cutting pollution. By preventing the emission of millions
of tons of carcinogenic hydrocarbon into the air we breathe, the
standards have improved air quality, including that in heavily polluted
cities like my own of Los Angeles. But we have a long way to go before
we have clean air.
In addition, CAFE standards have proved to be successful in saving an
estimated 3 million barrels of oil a day, thereby reducing U.S.
dependence on imported oil. There is no doubt that, without these
standards, we would be importing far more oil than we already do. Those
imports account for 52 percent of U.S. oil consumption, while
contributing $60 billion annually to our trade deficit.
And, of direct importance to consumers, CAFE standards result in
savings when they purchase gasoline. Because fuel economy standards
doubled between 1975 and the late 1980's, a new car purchaser saves an
average of $3,300 at the gas pump over the lifetime of a car. CAFE
standards mean over $40 billion in consumer savings annually.
By continuing this freeze, we are preventing full implementation of
the law that was enacted in 1975. Specifically, the freeze is blocking
improvements in the CAFE standards for light trucks. This means that
our constituents who purchase the very popular minivans, sport utility
vehicles, jeeps, and pickups are denied the benefits of existing fuel-
saving technologies.
These vehicles have become the most prevalent example of the gas
guzzlers we have sought to do away with--they now comprise over 40
percent of the new vehicle market, increasing the demand for oil and,
so, increasing pollution as well.
Mr. Speaker, I am also disturbed by some of the other provisions of
this important piece of legislation, which affects, in one way or
another, all Americans.
Specifically, many of us regret that the bill makes such drastic
reductions in Amtrak's funding. Amtrak's capital improvement would be
nearly halved; the fund for improvements in the Northeast corridor
would be eliminated entirely. This is, Mr. Speaker, bad transportation
policy.
Instead of cutting in half this funding for Amtrak, we ought to be
providing funds to improve and expand rail service in the United
States. We are currently making an investment that is totally
inadequate; our rail system is nowhere near so cost-effective or
consumer oriented as it should be. But, instead of providing the funds
to overcome those deficiencies, the action we are taking today
represents a giant step backward.
An effective, efficient rail system is essential to the quality of
life and economic vitality of our Nation, and improving rail service
should be a top priority; instead it has been sadly neglected. Trains
run infrequently; the most popular ones are overcrowded; and passengers
have well-founded fears about safety and the lack of good, reliable
service.
We should be trying to meet the demands of customers--and would-be
customers--by improving our Nation's rail program. Rail service should
not be relegated to the past, or to the bottom of our list of
priorities; it should not be taking a back seat to the enormous amount
of funding we continue to pour into our multibillion-dollar highway
system.
As the respected columnist, Jessica Mathews, pointed out in her
recent Washington Post article, Amtrak has suffered from chronic
underfunding; what it needs most is a guaranteed source of capital, and
more than 3 percent of transportation funds it receives. We have a
transportation system that heavily subsidizes travel by road and air--
but ignores rail--and by doing so, we have serious congestion both on
the ground and in the air.
A great investment in Amtrak would help us solve those serious
problems. I urge my colleagues to consider that as we debate this
appropriations bill.
Mr. Speaker, I commend the article by Jessica Mathews to my
colleagues for their attention, and I include it at this point in the
Record.
[From the Washington Post, June 24, 1996]
Time to Make Plans--and Tracks
(Jessica Mathews)
American visitors to Europe and Japan this summer will have
an experience you cannot have anywhere in America.
They will fly to a major airport like Amsterdam, Paris or
Osaka, collect their bags, push their cart through customs
and a few steps farther, still inside the airport, be at the
doorway of an intercity train.
What's special about this quick and easy connection that
non-Americans take for granted? First, of course, is the
existence of healthy, heavily capitalized rail service, seen
as integral to a national transportation system. Trains keep
air and highway traffic flowing, and nothing competes with
rail in an overall package of speed, cost, comfort,
convenience and use of energy and land for trips in the range
of 100 to 500 miles.
Anyone who thinks that rail travel is a nostalgia trip
should take a look at the investment plans of the booming,
modernization-obsessed Asian economies. China, Taiwan,
Malaysia, South Korea and others are all investing heavily in
high-speed rail.
That's the second characteristic missing for Americans:
existing and planned service is high-speed rail, not
futuristic magnetic levitation technology, but conventional
rails in the here-and-now. After decades of under-
capitalization, ``high-speed'' in the United States means
only 100 mph to 125 mph, whereas France's 200 mph TGV would
make the Washington-New York trip, downtown to downtown, into
a one-hour commute.
The third factor is more subtle. Money can't buy it, and
technology is no substitute. It is the connection: Air
connects to rail, rail to transit, transit to bicycle and
pedestrian options, and all of them are laid out to fit with
the road system. It sounds basic and it is, but such links
are so rare in this country that they're given a fancy name--
intermodal connections. The missing element in the United
States is planning.
Central planning is, of course, a dirty word here, but when
we are serious about doing something well on a national
scale, we plan just like everyone else. You can drive on one
good road from Maine to Florida because the interstate
highway system was laid out as a national system. To overcome
our aversion in the 1950s, we pretended that all this
planning was in the service of national defense (to move
missiles on the roads). In 1996, with tourism/recreation the
world's largest industry (and the United States' second-
largest employer) and trade an ever-rising share of the
global economy, we can no longer afford the hangup.
Missed connections persist at the state and regional level,
even when comprehensive planning is attempted, because
separate transportation trust funds with separate sources of
revenue pit the various modes of travel against each other.
The air, rail, transit and highway industries see themselves
as competitors, not colleagues serving a broader public
interest.
``That half-penny [of the federal gas tax] belongs to
transit,'' says transit's chief lobbyist. ``Why should we use
our money [air ticket-tax funds] on rail?'' asks an airline
spokesman. And so New York's once-great Kennedy Airport lies
gasping out in the suburbs, strangled by clogged highways,
for lack of rail service from downtown. It's not a New York
problem. It is obscenely difficult everywhere in this country
to spend transportation money according to self-evident,
local need.
Two things need to change: the chronic underfunding of rail
and the separate pots of money that stand in the way of
sensible spending. Eventually, the airport and highway trust
funds and other appropriations must be combined into a single
source of money allocated by need rather than mode of
service. That will take some time. Meanwhile, urgent action
is needed to rebuild passenger rail.
What Amtrak needs most of all is a guaranteed source of
capital to buy the rolling stock that will reduce heavy
maintenance costs on the antiquated equipment it inherited,
improve service and attract new passengers. A recent test
vote in the Senate approved a plan to allocate a half-cent of
gasoline taxes, about $500 million per year, for
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that purpose. Last week, both Senate Majority Leader Trent
Lott and Rep. Frank Wolf (R-Va.), in charge of transportation
spending in the House, gave the idea a cautious blessing.
Approval is still far from certain, but it is essential.
Congress and the administration have previously decided that
Amtrak must operate free of public support by 2001--a status
that has no precedent anywhere in the world and
justification. All other modes of transport are subsidized,
roads and highways especially heavily. Why should rail alone
not be publicly supported?
Whatever its wisdom, the goal has been set, at least for
the time being. If there is the slightest chance that it can
be met, capital funding of at least $2.5 billion over five
years is the bare minimum cost.
The evidence is all around us that a transportation system
that pours money into roads and air travel and starves
everything else doesn't work. Spending for airports and
highways soared in the '80s, and now economic losses from
congestion on the ground and in the air are setting records.
In that same time, support for rail declined by a third. It
now gets a bare 3 percent of federal transportation funds.
Undercapitalized businesses fail every day. That could
happen to Amtrak. Or it could succeed with payoffs in quality
of life and national competitiveness out of all proportion to
the federal cost. It's up to Congress.
Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time, and I
move the previous question on the resolution.
The previous question was ordered.
The resolution was agreed to.
A motion to reconsider was laid on the table.
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