[Congressional Record Volume 142, Number 43 (Tuesday, March 26, 1996)]
[Senate]
[Pages S2841-S2844]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]
THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD
Mr. DORGAN. Mr. President, let me claim my 15 minutes, and I ask the
Chair to notify me when I have consumed 10 of the minutes.
Mr. President, I came to the floor today with Senator Reid from
Nevada to discuss a preliminary report that has been completed, after
some 2 years of work, by the General Accounting Office. This report
takes an extensive look into the activities and operations of the
Federal Reserve Board and its regional banks. The Federal Reserve was
created in 1913. It is kind of a dinosaur in our Government in an age
of openness, an institution shrouded in great secrecy. But in 1913, the
Congress created the Federal Reserve Board. That was the year in which
Henry Ford built the first assembly line for the Model-T and paid
people $5 a day to work to construct automobiles.
That was a long time ago, but some things do not change very much.
The Federal Reserve still exists. It still sits as a house on a hill
with a large fence around it and invites no one to peer in to see what
they are doing. They make a substantial amount of money. They make
their own spending decisions, and they are accountable only to
themselves.
Senator Reid and I asked the GAO to do an investigation and
evaluation of
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how the Fed works: What does it spend its money on? How well does it
spend its money? How accountable is it?
We have some 200 pages in a report that represents the work of nearly
2 years by the GAO. This is not a final report. It is a preliminary
report that is now awaiting comment by the Federal Reserve Board.
The Senator from Nevada and I decided to release it now only because
last week it was made available to us, and this week the Senate
scheduled a hearing on Chairman Greenspan's renomination. We felt that
the Senate Banking Committee at least ought to have the benefit of what
is in this report prior to the hearing.
Let me discuss a couple of points in this report and ask Senator Reid
to discuss a couple of other points, because I think this will provide
a substantial amount of information that the American public will be
interested in.
You talk about the Federal Reserve Board and people's eyes start
glazing over, and there starts to develop a large fog around the
subject. This is largely because it is a central bank, accountable
largely only to itself. It conducts monetary policy by itself and does
so behind closed doors, with great secrecy.
Now, what did the GAO find? A couple of things. First of all, let me
discuss the surplus account that exists at the Federal Reserve Board.
The Federal Reserve Board has a surplus account of about $3.7 billion.
In fact, the surplus account has increased well over 70 percent in the
last 6 years. They have increased their surplus, which they set aside
to absorb potential losses, by 79 percent over this period. So they
have a cash stash of $3.7 billion in a surplus account.
This account presumably is to cover their losses. But the Federal
Reserve Board has not lost money in 79 consecutive years and is not
going to lose money in the future. Last year, it had a $20 billion-plus
profit, it had expenses of about $2 to $3 billion, and it turns the
rest back to the Treasury. But it still keeps a small surplus--small by
their definition, large by my definition. I come from a town of only
300 people, and there billions mean something.
What does the GAO say about that? The GAO talks about this surplus
account by suggesting that the downward adjustment to the size of the
surplus account, or perhaps its elimination, would result in a positive
budgetary impact, and so on and so forth. Then they point out that when
they asked the Federal Reserve Board why they had this and how they
determined what they needed, they said it is arbitrary. There is really
no criteria used by the Fed to how much they need in the surplus
account. They just squirrel away as much as they want.
This is the taxpayers' money, $3.7 billion squirreled away in a
concrete edifice that houses the Fed. The GAO recommends, and I
recommend--and we will introduce legislation--that this money be
returned to American taxpayers and not stashed as a surplus in an
institution that has not had a loss in 79 years and is not going to
have a loss in the next 79 years.
There are other areas in this GAO report that also describe the
operation of the overall Federal Reserve system. The Federal Reserve
Board largely conducts monetary policy. While I disagree with its
monetary policies these days, I do not think that the monetary policy
ought to exist here in the well of the Congress. I think it ought to be
separate and apart.
But I do not agree with the Fed when it believes its mission in life
is to be a set of human brake pads designed to slow down the American
economy. They happen to believe the American economy should not grow
more than 2.5 percent. If it grows more than that, somehow we are going
to produce more inflation they think.
They are dead wrong. In the global economy, inflation is going down,
not up; wages are going down, not up. So I think their monetary policy
is wrong, and they are inhibiting growth in this country and slowing
down the American economy.
However, that is not what the GAO looked at. The GAO evaluated the
other functions of the Fed. What does it spend its money on? Less than
10 percent of the activities of the Federal Reserve System are spent on
monetary policy activities. The rest of it is bank supervision, check
clearing, and a whole range of other things.
The Fed has counseled this country to cut its expenditures, slim
down, downsize, and streamline. What has the Fed done? The Fed has
counseled that America go on a diet and it has decided to over-eat.
Here you have a circumstance where this shows what has happened between
1988 and 1994 according to the GAO: Personnel compensation up 53
percent. Benefits, that is, benefits per employee, increased about 90
percent during the same period; equipment and software up; buildings
up.
In fact, they built one building, and they estimated when they
decided to build the building they would need a 7,000-square-foot
lobby. That is a pretty good-sized lobby. When they finished the
building, they had a 27,000-square-foot lobby. You ought to see a
picture of this lobby with no chairs--27,000 square foot. And that also
is in the GAO report.
If you take a look at the expenditures of the Fed, you will see this
line, which is the blue line, and from 1988 to 1994, the Fed, which
writes its own checks and decides how much it wants to spend--nobody is
suggesting that it ought to do this or ought not to do this. It decides
how much of its money it wants to keep--had a 48 percent increase in
expenditures, according to the GAO. During the same period, the
Consumer Price Index increased 25 percent--almost double the Consumer
Price Index in terms of the increase in costs down at the Fed.
I just indicated a couple of those items, but the cost per employee
of the increases in benefits, employee benefits of the Fed increased 90
percent during the 6-year term.
So again, the suggestion by the Fed that the rest of the Government
tighten its belt is apparently advice lost on the Fed itself. If you
take a look at a whole range of these issues, the amount of money spent
on personnel, on buildings, on benefits, and a whole series of issues
like that, what you will find is a Federal Reserve Board that has not
had a previous audit but a board for which an audit would discover that
it seems to be growing while the rest of the Government is shrinking.
Maybe we ought to bring the Federal Reserve Board into the same
realm. I am not talking about bringing monetary policy functions into
this realm, but maybe the non-monetary policy functions of the Federal
Reserve ought to be subject to annual appropriations just as are all of
the other functions of Government.
Certainly, we ought to now proceed, based on what we will find in
this report, to decide there should be every year, each and every year,
an independent audit of the Federal Reserve Board. We ought to, based
on what we have discovered in this report, decide that we should have
this $3.7 billion taken out of the surplus account that has been
squirreled away by the Fed itself and brought back into the stream of
income that is available to the American taxpayers. Those are the
things that we ought to do together. There are a whole series of
recommendations that Senator Reid and I will jointly employ in the
decision on future legislation as a result of this GAO report.
Let me conclude my portion of this where I began. The Federal Reserve
Board is a dinosaur; in the rest of Government, we are now discussing
openness. In the Federal Reserve Board, we still have the shroud of
secrecy. In the rest of the Government, we have the requirement for
financial accountability. At the Federal Reserve Board, it is: We will
spend what we need to spend, and we will make that judgment.
While the rest of the Federal Government is shrinking with fewer
employees, fewer now than at any time during the Government's history
going back to John F. Kennedy, the Federal Reserve Board system is
growing. That is why I think this GAO audit suggests it is out of step
and does need some correction.
Mr. President, let me yield the floor. My colleague, Senator Reid,
from Nevada, will discuss some of the other results of this GAO
evaluation.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Nevada is recognized.
Mr. REID. Mr. President, will the Chair advise me when I have used 12
minutes of my time.
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Mr. President, this report that was released yesterday has taken
about 2 years for the General Accounting Office to conduct. The
findings of this report, if centered on a Member of Congress or an
agency of the Federal Government, would be, for lack of a better word,
scandalous.
It is interesting to note the apologists that are around this country
for the Federal Reserve Board. Take, for example, the Wall Street
Journal. They wrote an article on the release of this report today, but
it was an apology for the Federal Reserve Board. The Wall Street
Journal looks at the Members of Congress and Federal agencies and
anything they do, they do not dot an ``i'' on the right place on the
page, do not cross the ``t,'' they not only report it, but they write
an editorial about it.
This $3.7 billion? The huge cost overruns? Not a word said in today's
Wall Street Journal, but it is very typical for that newspaper.
This report raises legitimate questions about fiscal management
within the Federal Reserve System. Some important questions should be
answered as we proceed, Senator Dorgan and I, with our legislative
agenda as it relates to this General Accounting Office report. And I
think there should be some questions asked during the confirmation
proceedings relating to Alan Greenspan.
We have been told by the General Accounting Office that this is the
most in-depth study they have ever done of the Federal Reserve Board.
In all the time I have been in Congress, certainly it is the most in-
depth study by far that has ever been done of the Federal Reserve
Board.
I agree the Federal Reserve should be independent, and I think that I
will do what I can to make sure it is independent, but that does not
mean the Federal Reserve Board and system does not need accountability.
It needs accountability, as indicated in this 200-page report that has
taken 2 years to prepare by the General Accounting Office.
Mr. President, I think what the Federal Reserve Board has been saying
is, ``Do not do as I do, do as I say,'' because they say that
Government has to cut back. What do they do? They significantly
increase their spending in all areas. Take, for example, the operating
costs of the Federal Reserve System. Supervision and regulation, from
1988 to 1994, increased 102 percent--102 percent. An annual audit
certainly is the least we should get out of this. We should know what
is happening in the Federal Reserve System. A ray of sunlight should
begin shining on the Federal Reserve System. It may not need to be part
of our sunshine laws that were so popular a decade or two ago, but it
needs a ray of sunshine shining on it. It would instill greater public
confidence in our banking system. It is important.
I have talked only a little bit about the increased operating costs,
but the costs certainly have skyrocketed. And we are talking about big
money. From 1988 to 1994, the costs have gone up from $1.3 billion to
$2 billion. That is a lot of money. Operating costs for the Federal
Reserve have grown at twice the rate of inflation. Fed operating costs
jumped 50 percent between 1988 and 1994.
Mr. President, I have behind me here a visual aid, and I think it is
pretty clear, if we look at what has happened with travel within the
Federal Reserve System, it has gone up 66 percent. We see what has
happened to the Federal Government. It has gone up 4 percent; staffing
levels of the Federal Government, minus 2 percent. We see what has
happened with the Federal Reserve System. It is incredible.
These costs are a story in and of themselves. From 1988 to 1994, the
Fed salary costs increased by 44 percent. Interestingly, also, salaries
of reserve bank presidents are significantly greater than the Chairman.
They vary. Somebody in San Francisco makes more than somebody in St.
Louis. It is interesting; there is no conformity as to how much they
make. They can kind of pay themselves, I guess, what they want. And 120
top Fed officials earn more than the Chairman of the Federal Reserve
System, Alan Greenspan. Within the Federal Reserve System, their
benefits increased by 89 percent. Whereas in the rest of the Federal
Government, we have been reining in the costs, theirs have gone up
almost 90 percent.
I might say, when we talk about the travel expenses increasing by 66
percent--but they travel in style. In 1994, the Fed's travel
expenditures were over $42 million. They are permitted to be reimbursed
however they feel they should be reimbursed: They can be reimbursed per
diem, they can be reimbursed actual costs. How would this institution
work if, in fact, every Member of Congress could be reimbursed for
travel costs, whatever they felt was appropriate? There needs to be
some uniformity. Because the policy varied from bank to bank, these
costs could easily be contained by a uniform, more taxpayer-friendly
policy.
Senator Dorgan has talked about the double standard, and certainly
there is a double standard. When we also understand that 93.25 percent
of all of the work that the Fed does has nothing to do with monetary
policy--only a little over 6.5 percent of what they do relates to
monetary policy--that is why I agree wholeheartedly with my friend, the
junior Senator from North Dakota, that in fact they should be subject
to the appropriation process. They should be.
I am a member of the Appropriations Committee. We spend most of our
time trying to figure out a way to downsize, to cut budgets, to
eliminate programs. At the same time the Fed is telling us that we need
to do this, their costs are spiraling. The rest of the Government
underwent necessary belt tightening. The Fed enjoyed a smorgasbord of
growth; they picked whatever they wanted. While the Federal
Government's overall staffing level declined by 2 percent, the Fed's
staffing level increased 6 percent over that.
So we know there needs to be better internal management. The General
Accounting Office found this. I have gone around the State of Nevada.
People ask questions about the Fed. I have introduced legislation in
the past to have an annual audit of the Federal Reserve System. It has
gotten nowhere. It has gotten from being introduced to the garbage can.
But now there are facts to indicate that what I have been talking about
is absolutely necessary; that we do need to have an annual report, we
do need better management control within the Fed.
We do not know how costs have gone up in the last year and a half or
so, but between 1988 and 1994, personnel compensation increased 54
percent, equipment and software expenditures increased 85 percent,
building expenditures increased 34 percent, and, as I already talked
about, travel expenditures increased by 66 percent. There is very
little in the Fed to keep these under control. The Fed is not subject
to the same cost reduction pressures that have affected both public and
private agencies.
The $3.7 billion slush fund that they have, that they keep around for
losses that may occur--we have not had any that occurred in 79 years. I
am on the Appropriations Committee. We are now in conference, trying to
work out the disputes we have. We badly need a few more dollars to
allow this omnibus bill to be signed, these five appropriations bills.
It could be done if we had the Fed's money that is sitting there,
gathering dust. We would solve the problem. The Federal Government
would be financed. We would not need any more continuing resolutions.
So we know, as the Senator from North Dakota has indicated, that we
need to do something legislatively. We first must have the $3.7 billion
returned to the Treasury. We need to require an annual audit, an
independent audit. We need to institute uniform procurement and
contracting practices. We need to institute executive branch policies
relating to travel, benefits and security. We certainly need to do
that, at a minimum.
I think it would be well that we tied the salaries of Fed executives
to similarly situated Government personnel, and we need to subject the
Fed's nonmonetary policy operations to the appropriations process. That
is the least we can do.
I think it also says a lot when we realize that the Federal Reserve,
as described by my friend from North Dakota, has had this beautiful
home. We can just see the top of that home. We cannot see it all
because there is a huge fence around it. We know we have
responsibilities for the structure, the landscaping in there, but we
cannot see it.
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All we are asking is let us find out what is going on. It is
important. They conduct important functions of this Government, and we
should know more about what they do. We have to do away with the shroud
of secrecy. We have to peel back this cloak that they covered
themselves with since 1913. This rainy-day fund they have set up is not
a rainy-day fund, it is for a hurricane. They have this spending free-
for-all attitude. That has to stop. They have a blank check mentality.
I would like to know who is minding the shop, because 1913 accounting
practices must be put to a stop.
Several Senators addressed the Chair.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from North Dakota.
Mr. DORGAN. Mr. President, how much time do I have remaining?
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from North Dakota has 4\1/2\
minutes remaining.
Mr. REID. And the Senator from Nevada?
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Nevada has 2\1/2\.
Mr. DORGAN. Mr. President, let me use a couple of these minutes by
trying to put this in perspective.
There is the policy issue with respect to the Federal Reserve Board,
how it behaves, what it does, how it impacts this country's economy.
Then there is the issue that we raised with respect to the GAO
evaluation of the Fed. That is what we are discussing before the Senate
today.
This 200-page evaluation of the Federal Reserve Board and its
operations is the most significant look inside the Fed in 70 or 80
years. What it shows, as we have indicated, is they have stashed away
$3.7 billion for a surplus, despite the fact they have not had a loss
in 79 consecutive years. They are spending more and more during times
when others in the Federal Government are being told they ought to
tighten their belts. Those issues are issues the Congress ought to deal
with. The Federal Reserve Board ought to be subjected to an annual
independent audit. We ought to have information and knowledge about
what is going on behind that fence. That is the reason we want to make
sure our colleagues, the relevant committees, and others will be able
to evaluate the wealth of information that exists in this draft GAO
report.
Let me, finally, say a word about the policies of the Federal Reserve
Board itself, which are different, separate and apart from the issues
we have been discussing. I have very serious reservations about the
monetary policies pursued by the Fed. As I have indicated, the Federal
Reserve Board has seemed to feel, now, for some long while, that this
country cannot have economic growth rates above 2.5 percent. If they
fancied themselves as a set of human brake pads whose mission in life
is to slow down the American economy, I say they have succeeded. Give
them a trophy.
That is not what this country needs. The global economy means wages
are falling, not rising. It means inflation is going down, not up. And
it means this country can have a higher rate of growth. There are
Democrats and Republicans who believe very strongly that a 2.5 percent
growth rate for our economy is anemic and cannot provide the kind of
opportunity and expansion that we need in this country.
I hope, in addition to the discussion we will have about what the Fed
is doing, how it runs its operations, how it spends its money--in
addition to that, and we should have that discussion as a result of
this report, I hope we will also have a discussion about the Fed's
monetary policies, and whether they are appropriate to try to produce
the kind of economic future that we want in this country. In my
judgment, they are not.
Two years ago, we saw the Federal Reserve Board increase interest
rates seven times. Why? Because they were heading off the fires of
inflation, they suggested. But inflation was not going up, inflation
was going down, and it continues to go down.
What they managed to do with those interest rate increases was to
slow down the American economy. That is not such a significant talent.
My Uncle Joe can slow down the American economy. Just bring Uncle Joe
to town, and I am sure he can figure out how to throw a wrench in the
crank case. It does not take a special talent to slow down the economy.
The question is, how do we get the economy moving again, a vigorous
economy with new jobs and new opportunities for all Americans, without
raising the specter of additional inflation? That is the task for all
of us.
The Federal Reserve Board sees itself on a singular mission: Keep
economic growth somewhere in the range of 2.5 percent. That is not
enough growth for this country. No one ought to be satisfied with that.
It does not produce the jobs or the opportunities this country needs.
Mr. President, I hope that even as we discuss the report about what
the Fed does and how it spends its money, we will alternatively discuss
Federal policies, especially in the area of monetary policy.
Mr. President, I yield the floor.
Mr. LOTT. Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll.
The legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
Mr. LOTT. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for
the quorum call be rescinded.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
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