[Congressional Record Volume 141, Number 204 (Tuesday, December 19, 1995)]
[House]
[Pages H15116-H15130]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]




PROVIDING FOR CONSIDERATION OF HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION 122, REVISED 
   BUDGET RESOLUTION REFLECTING THE PRESIDENT'S MOST RECENT PROPOSAL

  Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, by direction of the Committee on Rules, I 
call up House Resolution 309 and ask for its immediate consideration.
  The Clerk read the resolution, as follows:

                              H. Res. 309

       Resolved, That upon the adoption of this resolution it 
     shall be in order without intervention of any point of order 
     to consider in the House the concurrent resolution (H. Con. 
     Res. 122) setting forth a revised congressional budget for 
     the United States Government for the fiscal years 1996, 1997, 
     1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, and 2002. The concurrent resolution 
     shall be debatable for two hours equally divided and 
     controlled by the chairman and ranking minority member of the 
     Committee on the Budget. The previous question shall be 
     considered as ordered on the concurrent resolution to final 
     adoption without intervening motion or demand for division of 
     the question.

  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from New York [Mr. Solomon] is 
recognized for 1 hour.
  Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, for the purposes of debate only, I yield 30 
minutes to the gentleman from Massachusetts [Mr. Moakley], pending 
which I yield myself such time as I may consume. During consideration 
of the resolution, all time yielded is for debate purposes only.
  (Mr. SOLOMON asked and was given permission to revise and extend his 
remarks and include extraneous material.)
  Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, House Resolution 309 is a closed rule 
providing for consideration in the House of House Concurrent Resolution 
122, a revised budget resolution for fiscal years 1996 through 2002. 
The resolution is based on the Congressional Budget Office scoring of 
the most recent budget proposal of the President as laid before the 
Congress last Friday, December 15. The rule provides for 2 hours of 
general debate, equally divided between the chairman and ranking 
minority member of the Committee on the Budget.

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  The rule provides that the previous question is ordered to final 
adoption without intervening motion.
  Now, Members, what that means is that there will not be a motion to 
recommit. That is consistent with the existing provision of the Budget 
Act, which prohibits recommitting a budget resolution.
  Mr. Speaker, and as Members will recall, last spring I wrote to the 
President and offered him the opportunity to present to us an 
alternative 7-year balanced budget that we could make in order during 
consideration of the congressional budget resolution, along with other 
alternatives we would bring to the floor for debate. If Members will 
recall, all of those resolutions were balanced budgets that were 
brought to the floor.
  At that time, we received no response from the President. By its lack 
of response to my request, the administration was, in my opinion, 
indicating that it was not interested in even trying to achieve a 
balanced budget within 7 years or within any other time.
  Mr. Speaker, the President subsequently, later on, suggested that it 
might be possible to offer a balanced budget in 10 years, then maybe in 
9 years, he said, then 8 years, and, finally, only recently, maybe he 
could do it in 7 years.
  But, still, unfortunately, the President has not been willing to use 
Congressional Budget Office estimates as required, and this is so 
important for the press and for Members back in their offices, he was 
not willing to use Congressional Budget Office estimates as required by 
the law and signed by President Clinton himself as part of the 
continuing appropriations resolution.
  Mr. Speaker, the purpose of this rule today is to give the House an 
opportunity to decide whether it wants to proceed with the President's 
7-year budget that is not in balance. Let me repeat that. To proceed 
with the President's 7-year budget that he has given us last Friday, 
December 15, that is not in balance, according to CBO. That is the 
Congressional Budget Office.
  What that budget shows, when we factor in all the off-budget items, 
is that the President is still some $87 billion in deficit after 7 
years, compared to $3 billion in surplus in the Balanced Budget Act 
recently passed by this Congress, that means both Houses, and sent to 
the President, and which he vetoed that bill.
  Mr. Speaker, a commitment was made by both the President and the 
Congress to enact a 7-year balanced budget using nonpartisan 
Congressional Budget Office estimates and to do so this year. There is 
no question about the meaning or requirements of that language that 
both branches have committed to by law; that the President has 
committed to by law. But the administration has, thus far, refused to 
agree to CBO estimates in bringing their budget request into balance by 
fiscal year 2002.
  Yesterday, the House overwhelmingly reaffirmed, by a vote of 351 to 
40, its commitment to the 7-year, CBO-scored balanced budget. Today, 
the House will have an opportunity to decide the same question from a 
different angle. Today's resolution will give this House a straight up 
or down vote on the President's $87 billion deficit in fiscal year 
2002. That is what this vote will be all about here today on this 
floor.
  If the House agrees that we should accept the President's priorities 
and estimates, then we will proceed with budget negotiations based on 
those assumptions. That means the President's assumptions and the 
President's priorities.
  If the House decides to, however, stick to its guns and stick by the 
law, incidentally that we enacted, that says we really do want to 
balance the budget in 7 years, scored by the nonpartisan Congressional 
Budget Office, then we can, hopefully, get back to the negotiating 
table with that clear statement of our intent. Again, that is what that 
vote is all about on this floor today.

  Mr. Speaker, we cannot proceed to negotiate from different tables. 
Either we are at the CBO table or the OMB table. But the people want us 
to sit down again at the same table, and they want us to make sure that 
that table is on the level and that everything is on the level and on 
the table. That is what this is all about. That is what we are asking 
today.
  Mr. Speaker, I know it is sometimes difficult for the American people 
to follow all this talk about CBO and OMB. They have trouble even 
understanding what that is all about. It is more beltway talk or 
alphabet soup than anything else. But what they may recall, Mr. 
Speaker, is that the President, and Members should listen to this 
because it is so important, the President declared in 1993, in his 
first State of the Union Address, and I have it over here for Members 
if they want to see the actual quotations, the President said in his 
first State of the Union Address that we should use the more reliable 
numbers of the Congressional Budget Office in scoring his budget in 
that year. That was this President Clinton that said that.
  In that address on February 17, 1993, the President asked this 
Congress to score his budget using, and I quote, ``the independent 
numbers of the Congressional Budget Office.'' And he went on to say, 
and this is a continuation of his quote, ``I will point out that the 
Congressional Budget Office was normally more conservative in what was 
going to happen and closer to the right than previous Presidents have 
been.''
  What could be more simple and honest than that admission? Therefore, 
Mr. Speaker, I was just shocked, I was aghast to hear on Sunday's TV 
talk show the President's Chief of Staff, Mr. Panetta, and he is a 
former chairman of this House Committee on the Budget and former 
Director of the Office of Management and Budget, and he tried to wiggle 
out of the commitment to use CBO economic estimates in scoring the 
President's budget proposals as required, again, by law. It is the law 
that we do that.
  Instead, what he proposed was that somehow we should begin without 
using anybody's assumptions; we should proceed to negotiate a budget 
agreement; and then, and only then, score the agreement by some kind of 
negotiated compromise between CBO and OMB. That is smoke and mirrors at 
its worst.
  Mr. Speaker, that is the most mind-boggling, mind-blowing, mind-
bending suggestion that I have ever heard coming out of someone with 
the experience of Mr. Panetta.
  The President of the United States is talking about compromising the 
integrity of the independent Congressional Budget Office, formerly 
touted by that President, which I just read my colleagues, in saying 
that economic projections should be a matter of political negotiations 
after the fact.
  Members of the House, the President is coming across like the 300-
pound man who has promised his wife he will lose 100 pounds by the end 
of the year. But when it comes to the end of the year, and he has only 
lost 25 pounds, he asks his wife to renegotiate the meaning of the 100 
pounds so that it conforms to the 25 pounds he actually lost. That is 
how ridiculous this whole argument is. It is outrageous.
  Mr. Speaker, I do not think the question of a real balanced budget 
should be a matter that is subject to negotiation just to conform to 
the appetites of government and those that want to spend, spend, spend. 
It should, instead, conform to the American taxpayers' pocketbook, as 
we would like to see it, and that is in balance.
  Mr. Speaker, just as a rose, is a rose, is a rose, a balanced budget, 
is a balanced budget, is a balanced budget. And just as a rose by any 
other name would still smell as sweet, an unbalanced budget by any 
other name would still smell rotten.
  Members, is it any wonder that the American people are so fed up and 
holding their noses over the smells emanating from this President's 
attempt to portray an unbalanced budget as balanced? What could be more 
transparent than a gilded rose that still smells like a skunk cabbage? 
And do Members know what a skunk cabbage is? My friends, try smelling 
one one time.
  Mr. Speaker, the charge was made in the Committee on Rules that this 
rule and this budget resolution it makes in order is political. Well, 
Mr. Speaker, I would simply point out that we are now engaged in the 
political process, in a political body that is the Congress, under a 
political system that is established by our Constitution. Politics is 
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about setting priorities, making choices. That is what this Congress is 
all about.
  Yes, this is politics in the most honorable and defining sense of 
that term. We are indeed engaged in the most important political debate 
of our generation, over whether we are willing to put our political and 
financial House in order by living within our means. That is something 
the American people do. They expect us to do it.
  This debate will define for the next generation whether we were 
willing to face up to that challenge of balancing the budget and 
providing a brighter future for our children and our grandchildren, and 
I have four of them, or whether we will be too cowardly to do that and, 
instead, consign these people, these children of ours, and our 
posterity to deeper debt, stagnation and failure. We just cannot do 
that.
  This is about politics in its finest sense of that term, the politics 
of making tough, hard choices. That is what we have to do if we are to 
balance the budget, but they are choices that will determine the future 
direction of this Nation and what kind of legacy we will leave to our 
posterity.
  I urge support of this rule and defeat of the President's unbalanced 
budget that will be on this floor in just a few minutes so that we can 
get back on the course we and the President, by law, committed to, and 
that is achieving a truly balanced budget in the next 7 years; and 
getting back to a common negotiating table that is on the level with 
everything on it. That is what this is all about.
  Mr. Speaker, Members should come over here, vote for this rule, and 
then defeat this unbalanced budget so that we can get on with what we 
have all agreed to, and that is bringing some fiscal sanity to this 
Government of ours.
  Mr. Speaker, I include for the Record, a document entitled ``The 
Amendment Process Under Special Rules Reported By The Rules Committee, 
103rd Congress v. 104th Congress (As of December 18, 1995).''

  THE AMENDMENT PROCESS UNDER SPECIAL RULES REPORTED BY THE RULES COMMITTEE,\1\ 103D CONGRESS V. 104TH CONGRESS 
                                            [As of December 19, 1995]                                           
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                  103d Congress                        104th Congress           
              Rule type              ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                       Number of rules    Percent of total   Number of rules    Percent of total
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Open/Modified-open\2\...............                 46                 44                 57                 65
Modified Closed\3\..................                 49                 47                 20                 23
Closed\4\...........................                  9                  9                 11                 12
                                     ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Total.........................                104                100                 88                100
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\1\This table applies only to rules which provide for the original consideration of bills, joint resolutions or 
  budget resolutions and which provide for an amendment process. It does not apply to special rules which only  
  waive points of order against appropriations bills which are already privileged and are considered under an   
  open amendment process under House rules.                                                                     
\2\An open rule is one under which any Member may offer a germane amendment under the five-minute rule. A       
  modified open rule is one under which any Member may offer a germane amendment under the five-minute rule     
  subject only to an overall time limit on the amendment process and/or a requirement that the amendment be     
  preprinted in the Congressional Record.                                                                       
\3\A modified closed rule is one under which the Rules Committee limits the amendments that may be offered only 
  to those amendments designated in the special rule or the Rules Committee report to accompany it, or which    
  preclude amendments to a particular portion of a bill, even though the rest of the bill may be completely open
  to amendment.                                                                                                 
\4\A closed rule is one under which no amendments may be offered (other than amendments recommended by the      
  committee in reporting the bill).                                                                             


                          SPECIAL RULES REPORTED BY THE RULES COMMITTEE, 104TH CONGRESS                         
                                            [As of December 19, 1995]                                           
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                                                                 Disposition of 
    H. Res. No. (Date rept.)         Rule type           Bill No.              Subject                rule      
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
H. Res. 38 (1/18/95)...........  O................  H.R. 5...........  Unfunded Mandate        A: 350-71 (1/19/ 
                                                                        Reform.                 95).            
H. Res. 44 (1/24/95)...........  MC...............  H. Con. Res. 17..  Social Security.......  A: 255-172 (1/25/
                                                    H.J. Res. 1......  Balanced Budget Amdt..   95).            
H. Res. 51 (1/31/95)...........  O................  H.R. 101.........  Land Transfer, Taos     A: voice vote (2/
                                                                        Pueblo Indians.         1/95).          
H. Res. 52 (1/31/95)...........  O................  H.R. 400.........  Land Exchange, Arctic   A: voice vote (2/
                                                                        Nat'l. Park and         1/95).          
                                                                        Preserve.                               
H. Res. 53 (1/31/95)...........  O................  H.R. 440.........  Land Conveyance, Butte  A: voice vote (2/
                                                                        County, Calif.          1/95).          
H. Res. 55 (2/1/95)............  O................  H.R. 2...........  Line Item Veto........  A: voice vote (2/
                                                                                                2/95).          
H. Res. 60 (2/6/95)............  O................  H.R. 665.........  Victim Restitution....  A: voice vote (2/
                                                                                                7/95).          
H. Res. 61 (2/6/95)............  O................  H.R. 666.........  Exclusionary Rule       A: voice vote (2/
                                                                        Reform.                 7/95).          
H. Res. 63 (2/8/95)............  MO...............  H.R. 667.........  Violent Criminal        A: voice vote (2/
                                                                        Incarceration.          9/95).          
H. Res. 69 (2/9/95)............  O................  H.R. 668.........  Criminal Alien          A: voice vote (2/
                                                                        Deportation.            10/95).         
H. Res. 79 (2/10/95)...........  MO...............  H.R. 728.........  Law Enforcement Block   A: voice vote (2/
                                                                        Grants.                 13/95).         
H. Res. 83 (2/13/95)...........  MO...............  H.R. 7...........  National Security       PQ: 229-100; A:  
                                                                        Revitalization.         227-127 (2/15/  
                                                                                                95).            
H. Res. 88 (2/16/95)...........  MC...............  H.R. 831.........  Health Insurance        PQ: 230-191; A:  
                                                                        Deductibility.          229-188 (2/21/  
                                                                                                95).            
H. Res. 91 (2/21/95)...........  O................  H.R. 830.........  Paperwork Reduction     A: voice vote (2/
                                                                        Act.                    22/95).         
H. Res. 92 (2/21/95)...........  MC...............  H.R. 889.........  Defense Supplemental..  A: 282-144 (2/22/
                                                                                                95).            
H. Res. 93 (2/22/95)...........  MO...............  H.R. 450.........  Regulatory Transition   A: 252-175 (2/23/
                                                                        Act.                    95).            
H. Res. 96 (2/24/95)...........  MO...............  H.R. 1022........  Risk Assessment.......  A: 253-165 (2/27/
                                                                                                95).            
H. Res. 100 (2/27/95)..........  O................  H.R. 926.........  Regulatory Reform and   A: voice vote (2/
                                                                        Relief Act.             28/95).         
H. Res. 101 (2/28/95)..........  MO...............  H.R. 925.........  Private Property        A: 271-151 (3/2/ 
                                                                        Protection Act.         95).            
H. Res. 103 (3/3/95)...........  MO...............  H.R. 1058........  Securities Litigation   .................
                                                                        Reform.                                 
H. Res. 104 (3/3/95)...........  MO...............  H.R. 988.........  Attorney                A: voice vote (3/
                                                                        Accountability Act.     6/95).          
H. Res. 105 (3/6/95)...........  MO...............  .................  ......................  A: 257-155 (3/7/ 
                                                                                                95).            
H. Res. 108 (3/7/95)...........  Debate...........  H.R. 956.........  Product Liability       A: voice vote (3/
                                                                        Reform.                 8/95).          
H. Res. 109 (3/8/95)...........  MC...............  .................  ......................  PQ: 234-191 A:   
                                                                                                247-181 (3/9/   
                                                                                                95).            
H. Res. 115 (3/14/95)..........  MO...............  H.R. 1159........  Making Emergency Supp.  A: 242-190 (3/15/
                                                                        Approps.                95).            
H. Res. 116 (3/15/95)..........  MC...............  H.J. Res. 73.....  Term Limits Const.      A: voice vote (3/
                                                                        Amdt.                   28/95).         
H. Res. 117 (3/16/95)..........  Debate...........  H.R. 4...........  Personal                A: voice vote (3/
                                                                        Responsibility Act of   21/95).         
                                                                        1995.                                   
H. Res. 119 (3/21/95)..........  MC...............  .................  ......................  A: 217-211 (3/22/
                                                                                                95).            
H. Res. 125 (4/3/95)...........  O................  H.R. 1271........  Family Privacy          A: 423-1 (4/4/   
                                                                        Protection Act.         95).            
H. Res. 126 (4/3/95)...........  O................  H.R. 660.........  Older Persons Housing   A: voice vote (4/
                                                                        Act.                    6/95).          
H. Res. 128 (4/4/95)...........  MC...............  H.R. 1215........  Contract With America   A: 228-204 (4/5/ 
                                                                        Tax Relief Act of       95).            
                                                                        1995.                                   
H. Res. 130 (4/5/95)...........  MC...............  H.R. 483.........  Medicare Select          A: 253-172 (4/6/
                                                                        Expansion.              95).            
H. Res. 136 (5/1/95)...........  O................  H.R. 655.........  Hydrogen Future Act of  A: voice vote (5/
                                                                        1995.                   2/95).          
H. Res. 139 (5/3/95)...........  O................  H.R. 1361........  Coast Guard Auth. FY    A: voice vote (5/
                                                                        1996.                   9/95).          
H. Res. 140 (5/9/95)...........  O................  H.R. 961.........  Clean Water Amendments  A: 414-4 (5/10/  
                                                                                                95).            
H. Res. 144 (5/11/95)..........  O................  H.R. 535.........  Fish Hatchery--         A: voice vote (5/
                                                                        Arkansas.               15/95).         
H. Res. 145 (5/11/95)..........  O................  H.R. 584.........  Fish Hatchery--Iowa...  A: voice vote (5/
                                                                                                15/95).         
H. Res. 146 (5/11/95)..........  O................  H.R. 614.........  Fish Hatchery--         A: voice vote (5/
                                                                        Minnesota.              15/95).         
H. Res. 149 (5/16/95)..........  MC...............  H. Con. Res. 67..  Budget Resolution FY    PQ: 252-170 A:   
                                                                        1996.                   255-168 (5/17/  
                                                                                                95).            
H. Res. 155 (5/22/95)..........  MO...............  H.R. 1561........  American Overseas       A: 233-176 (5/23/
                                                                        Interests Act.          95).            
H. Res. 164 (6/8/95)...........  MC...............  H.R. 1530........  Nat. Defense Auth. FY   PQ: 225-191 A:   
                                                                        1996.                   233-183 (6/13/  
                                                                                                95).            
H. Res. 167 (6/15/95)..........  O................  H.R. 1817........  MilCon Appropriations   PQ: 223-180 A:   
                                                                        FY 1996.                245-155 (6/16/  
                                                                                                95).            
H. Res. 169 (6/19/95)..........  MC...............  H.R. 1854........  Leg. Branch Approps.    PQ: 232-196 A:   
                                                                        FY 1996.                236-191 (6/20/  
                                                                                                95).            
H. Res. 170 (6/20/95)..........  O................  H.R. 1868........  For. Ops. Approps. FY   PQ: 221-178 A:   
                                                                        1996.                   217-175 (6/22/  
                                                                                                95).            
H. Res. 171 (6/22/95)..........  O................  H.R. 1905........  Energy & Water          A: voice vote (7/
                                                                        Approps. FY 1996.       12/95).         
H. Res. 173 (6/27/95)..........  C................  H.J. Res. 79.....  Flag Constitutional     PQ: 258-170 A:   
                                                                        Amendment.              271-152 (6/28/  
                                                                                                95).            
H. Res. 176 (6/28/95)..........  MC...............  H.R. 1944........  Emer. Supp. Approps...  PQ: 236-194 A:   
                                                                                                234-192 (6/29/  
                                                                                                95).            
H. Res. 185 (7/11/95)..........  O................  H.R. 1977........  Interior Approps. FY    PQ: 235-193 D:   
                                                                        1996.                   192-238 (7/12/  
                                                                                                95).            
H. Res. 187 (7/12/95)..........  O................  H.R. 1977........  Interior Approps. FY    PQ: 230-194 A:   
                                                                        1996 #2.                229-195 (7/13/  
                                                                                                95).            
H. Res. 188 (7/12/95)..........  O................  H.R. 1976........  Agriculture Approps.    PQ: 242-185 A:   
                                                                        FY 1996.                voice vote (7/18/
                                                                                                95).            
H. Res. 190 (7/17/95)..........  O................  H.R. 2020........  Treasury/Postal         PQ: 232-192 A:   
                                                                        Approps. FY 1996.       voice vote (7/18/
                                                                                                95).            
H. Res. 193 (7/19/95)..........  C................  H.J. Res. 96.....  Disapproval of MFN to   A: voice vote (7/
                                                                        China.                  20/95).         
H. Res. 194 (7/19/95)..........  O................  H.R. 2002........  Transportation          PQ: 217-202 (7/21/
                                                                        Approps. FY 1996.       95).            
H. Res. 197 (7/21/95)..........  O................  H.R. 70..........  Exports of Alaskan      A: voice vote (7/
                                                                        Crude Oil.              24/95).         
H. Res. 198 (7/21/95)..........  O................  H.R. 2076........  Commerce, State         A: voice vote (7/
                                                                        Approps. FY 1996.       25/95).         
H. Res. 201 (7/25/95)..........  O................  H.R. 2099........  VA/HUD Approps. FY      A: 230-189 (7/25/
                                                                        1996.                   95).            
H. Res. 204 (7/28/95)..........  MC...............  S. 21............  Terminating U.S. Arms   A: voice vote (8/
                                                                        Embargo on Bosnia.      1/95).          
H. Res. 205 (7/28/95)..........  O................  H.R. 2126........  Defense Approps. FY     A: 409-1 (7/31/  
                                                                        1996.                   95).            

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H. Res. 207 (8/1/95)...........  MC...............  H.R. 1555........  Communications Act of   A: 255-156 (8/2/ 
                                                                        1995.                   95).            
H. Res. 208 (8/1/95)...........  O................  H.R. 2127........  Labor, HHS Approps. FY  A: 323-104 (8/2/ 
                                                                        1996.                   95).            
H. Res. 215 (9/7/95)...........  O................  H.R. 1594........  Economically Targeted   A: voice vote (9/
                                                                        Investments.            12/95).         
H. Res. 216 (9/7/95)...........  MO...............  H.R. 1655........  Intelligence            A: voice vote (9/
                                                                        Authorization FY 1996.  12/95).         
H. Res. 218 (9/12/95)..........  O................  H.R. 1162........  Deficit Reduction       A: voice vote (9/
                                                                        Lockbox.                13/95).         
H. Res. 219 (9/12/95)..........  O................  H.R. 1670........  Federal Acquisition     A: 414-0 (9/13/  
                                                                        Reform Act.             95).            
H. Res. 222 (9/18/95)..........  O................  H.R. 1617........  CAREERS Act...........  A: 388-2 (9/19/  
                                                                                                95).            
H. Res. 224 (9/19/95)..........  O................  H.R. 2274........  Natl. Highway System..  PQ: 241-173 A:   
                                                                                                375-39-1 (9/20/ 
                                                                                                95).            
H. Res. 225 (9/19/95)..........  MC...............  H.R. 927.........  Cuban Liberty & Dem.    A: 304-118 (9/20/
                                                                        Solidarity.             95).            
H. Res. 226 (9/21/95)..........  O................  H.R. 743.........  Team Act..............  A: 344-66-1 (9/27/
                                                                                                95).            
H. Res. 227 (9/21/95)..........  O................  H.R. 1170........  3-Judge Court.........  A: voice vote (9/
                                                                                                28/95).         
H. Res. 228 (9/21/95)..........  O................  H.R. 1601........  Internatl. Space        A: voice vote (9/
                                                                        Station.                27/95).         
H. Res. 230 (9/27/95)..........  C................  H.J. Res. 108....  Continuing Resolution   A: voice vote (9/
                                                                        FY 1996.                28/95).         
H. Res. 234 (9/29/95)..........  O................  H.R. 2405........  Omnibus Science Auth..  A: voice vote (10/
                                                                                                11/95).         
H. Res. 237 (10/17/95).........  MC...............  H.R. 2259........  Disapprove Sentencing   A: voice vote (10/
                                                                        Guidelines.             18/95).         
H. Res. 238 (10/18/95).........  MC...............  H.R. 2425........  Medicare Preservation   PQ: 231-194 A:   
                                                                        Act.                    227-192 (10/19/ 
                                                                                                95).            
H. Res. 239 (10/19/95).........  C................  H.R. 2492........  Leg. Branch Approps...  PQ: 235-184 A:   
                                                                                                voice vote (10/ 
                                                                                                31/95).         
H. Res. 245 (10/25/95).........  MC...............  H. Con. Res. 109.  Social Security         PQ: 228-191 A:   
                                                    H.R. 2491........   Earnings Reform.        235-185 (10/26/ 
                                                                       Seven-Year Balanced      95).            
                                                                        Budget.                                 
H. Res. 251 (10/31/95).........  C................  H.R. 1833........  Partial Birth Abortion  A: 237-190 (11/1/
                                                                        Ban.                    95).            
H. Res. 252 (10/31/95).........  MO...............  H.R. 2546........  D.C. Approps..........  A: 241-181 (11/1/
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H. Res. 257 (11/7/95)..........  C................  H.J. Res. 115....  Cont. Res. FY 1996....  A: 216-210 (11/8/
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H. Res. 258 (11/8/95)..........  MC...............  H.R. 2586........  Debt Limit............  A: 220-200 (11/10/
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H. Res. 259 (11/9/95)..........  O................  H.R. 2539........  ICC Termination Act...  A: voice vote (11/
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H. Res. 261 (11/9/95)..........  C................  H.J. Res. 115....  Cont. Resolution......  A: 223-182 (11/10/
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H. Res. 262 (11/9/95)..........  C................  H.R. 2586........  Increase Debt Limit...  A: 220-185 (11/10/
                                                                                                95).            
H. Res. 269 (11/15/95).........  O................  H.R. 2564........  Lobbying Reform.......  A: voice vote (11/
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H. Res. 270 (11/15/95).........  C................  H.J. Res. 122....  Further Cont.           A: 229-176 (11/15/
                                                                        Resolution.             95).            
H. Res. 273 (11/16/95).........  MC...............  H.R. 2606........  Prohibition on Funds    A: 239-181 (11/17/
                                                                        for Bosnia.             95).            
H. Res. 284 (11/29/95).........  O................  H.R. 1788........  Amtrak Reform.........  A: voice vote (11/
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H. Res. 287 (11/30/95).........  O................  H.R. 1350........  Maritime Security Act.  A: voice vote (12/
                                                                                                6/95).          
H. Res. 293 (12/7/95)..........  C................  H.R. 2621........  Protect Federal Trust   PQ: 223-183 A:   
                                                                        Funds.                  228-184 (12/14/ 
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H. Res. 303 (12/13/95).........  O................  H.R. 1745........  Utah Public Lands.....                   
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Codes: O-open rule; MO-modified open rule; MC-modified closed rule; C-closed rule; A-adoption vote; D-defeated; 
  PQ-previous question vote. Source: Notices of Action Taken, Committee on Rules, 104th Congress.               


  Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. MOAKLEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume. 
Mr. Speaker, the truth is this is not even the President's budget. It 
was put together by a Republican staff without consulting the White 
House and without consulting OMB. So let us get that matter straight.
  Mr. Speaker, once again, the House of Representatives is spending 
time on a matter that is a complete waste of time. Today is the 10th 
day this year that the U.S. Government has been closed.
  Today 383,000 people will be turned away from National Park Service 
facilities. Today 80,000 people will be turned away from the 
Smithsonian Institutions and the National Zoo. Today the January 1 
benefit checks for 3.3 million veterans will be threatened. Today 
20,000 students who apply for loans will not have their applications 
processed, and may not be able to pay for college.
  Mr. Speaker, my Republican colleagues have been in control of the 
Congress for almost a year.
  On October 1, 10 months into their reign, the Republican Congress 
should have finished the 13 appropriations bills so that the Federal 
Government wouldn't shut down and these things wouldn't happen.
  So, Mr. Speaker, here we are. It's nearly Christmas and we haven't 
even sent all the appropriations bills to the President yet. The 
American people will feel it.
  That's why my Republican colleagues are negotiating with the 
President today. That's why it's so important to keep those 
negotiations open instead of playing these type of political games.
  This bill today is just an attempt to embarrass the President, and it 
is a waste of time; and, so I said, it is a waste of time.
  Last week my Republican colleagues dismissed this proposal out of 
hand. They refuse to reconsider their own Medicare and Medicaid cuts to 
pay for tax breaks for the rich. They refuse to keep their end of the 
contract and propose a budget that protects Medicare, education, and 
the environment.
  So why on Earth is this out-of-date negotiating offer on the floor 
now? and why haven't my Republican colleagues put together their own 
alternative?
  If Congress and the President are in the midst of negotiating then 
negotiate. Keep going until you get it right. The American people are 
getting tired of these silly political games, and I just don't blame 
them.
  Mr. Speaker let's get a deal the House can vote on, or at least let's 
get the appropriations bills on the floor. Mr. Speaker, I urge my 
colleagues to defeat this rule. The resolution is a waste of time, and 
Congress shouldn't be playing these games. Let's stop the politics and 
give the American people their Government back.
  Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.

                              {time}  1245

  Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, I will be glad to respond to the 
gentleman's remark, in my closing remarks.
  Mr. Speaker, I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman from Claremont, CA 
[Mr. Dreier], one of the outstanding Members of this body, and a member 
of the Committee on Rules.
  Mr. DREIER. Mr. Speaker, I thank my friend from Glens Falls, the 
distinguished chairman of the Committee on Rules, for yielding me this 
time.
  Mr. Speaker, I rise to strong support of this rule, believing that we 
should, in fact, keep out promises. That is really what this comes down 
to, very simply and basically, Mr. Speaker.
  We made a commitment on September 27, 1994, that we would move ahead 
with the Contract With America. Within that plan, we called for 
balancing the Federal budget. We all read the newspaper. We watch 
television. We know that there is a very low level of support right now 
for Republicans in the U.S. Congress. But guess what? To a Member, we 
have found on our side of the aisle a very strong commitment to the 
promise that was made. That commitment is to balance the Federal budget 
within 7 years.
  Mr. Speaker, I have been criticized for this in the past. I am going 
to say it again. I want to help Bill Clinton become a better President. 
The gentleman from New York [Mr. Solomon] has ridden me for saying 
that, and several others have.
  Do my colleagues know why I want to make Bill Clinton a better 
President? Because he is our Commander in Chief and we only have one 
President at a time. I believe that we can make him a better President 
by helping him keep the promises that he made back in 1992 when he was 
a candidate.
  He said that he would balance the budget within 5 years. Just a few 
months after he won that election, he stood right here, as the 
gentleman from New York [Mr. Solomon] has said, and he said on February 
17, 1993, in his state of the union message, that he wanted us to use 
the reliable Congressional Budget Office scoring procedure.
  Mr. Speaker, he has also said time and time again that he wants to 
reduce the size and scope of Government. He does not want to make cuts 
in Medicare and Medicaid. Mr. Speaker, we are doing every single one of 
those things. But unfortunately, unfortunately, the President is going 
down the road toward further deficit spending.
  He is claiming that we are cutting Medicare and Medicaid when, in 
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we all know we are bringing about a 63-percent increase in the level of 
spending for Medicare over the next 7 years and we are dramatically 
increasing Medicaid and allowing the States to have the opportunity to 
establish their priorities.
  Unfortunately, as we look at where we are headed, the President's 
plan calls for deficits as far as the eye can see, and as the gentleman 
from New York said, $87 billion in the year 2002.
  Mr. Speaker, one of the things that has not been talked about much as 
been the fact that we are putting into place an economic growth package 
here. The gentleman from Massachusetts [Mr. Moakley], my pal from south 
Boston, talked about tax breaks for the rich, when in fact he knows, 
and even President Clinton acknowledges, that if we were to reduce the 
top rate on capital gains we could stimulate economic growth.
  Mr. Speaker, we also know that an overwhelming majority of the 
benefits for reducing the top rate on capital gains goes toward working 
Americans. Many of the people who are categorized as rich have a low 
level of income the year before they take their appreciated asset; that 
small business, or their home, and realize it. And the year after, they 
are also making $30,000 or $40,000 a year. But the 1 year they look at 
this asset, they are categorized as the rich, when in fact they are 
working Americans who have simply been aspiring to attain the American 
dream: The success of a business, owning a home, and the chance to pass 
on to their children and grandchildren some of the benefits of their 
very hard work.

  Mr. Speaker, if we were to reduce the top rate on capital gains, it 
is not a drain on the Treasury. Every single time in the history of 
this country that we have seen the top rate on capital gains reduced, 
we have seen economic growth and, yes, an increase in the flow of 
revenues to the Federal Treasury.
  In fact, if we were to have a 15 percent rate on capital gains, we 
would, over a 7-year period, see an increase of $200 billion in 
revenues to the Federal Treasury.
  This is a very balanced package. We should support this rule, and 
move forward and, in fact, defeat the President's budget. We all know 
that it is smoke and mirrors and it is really an abrogation of the 
responsibility the President was given when he was elected in 1992.
  Mr. MOAKLEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from 
Wisconsin [Mr. Obey], ranking minority member on the Committee on 
Appropriations.
  Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, I hope that no one here thinks that anything 
real is going on, because it is not and that is a disgrace. It is a 
downright shame.
  Mr. Speaker, as everyone knows, the President and the Republican 
leadership in the Congress have a ``slightly'' different view about 
what budget priorities ought to be, about what tax priorities ought to 
be, and they have reached an impasse, apparently.
  So, to try to gain more brownie points politically, what is now 
happening is that the Republican leadership of the House is bringing a 
bill to the floor which they pretend is the President's budget.
  Mr. Speaker, it is not the President's budget. It is their own 
concoction, their own political concoction designed to create another 
vehicle by which they can rhetorically beat up on the President for a 
couple of hours, rather than sitting down seriously and talking about 
real program differences on budget negotiations.
  Mr. Speaker, they also are planning later today, apparently, at least 
they have been, to bring up a continuing resolution to allow the 
Government of the District of Columbia to proceed, but not to allow the 
Federal Government to reopen. I also find that position ludicrous and 
unreal.
  What we need to have happen here is for the political rhetoric to 
stop. What we need to have happen is for the Republican leadership of 
the Congress to sit down and negotiate with the President with no 
preconditions. What we need is for all of us to stop attacking each 
other rhetorically because we are not about to do anything real.
  Mr. Speaker, we ought to be doing something that is real. What we 
ought to be doing is to try to find ways to bridge differences, not to 
find rhetorical arguments that will expand those differences. Why 
should we have a closed rule on this budget to allow only this so-
called President's budget to come up, when it is not even the 
President's budget? He is not even asking that you do it. Why should 
the coalition budget not be up? Why should a number of other options 
not be up on the floor?
  All this is is a narrow political exercise that substitutes rhetoric 
for real action. What has happened in plain view is that the majority 
party has taken so much heat in the polls for their budgets which have 
squashed Medicare, squashed Medicaid, squashed education, that they are 
trying to divert attention from that.
  To do that, first of all they engineer an unneeded Government 
shutdown, an artificially created crisis, and then they bring this joke 
to the floor. They should be ashamed of themselves. We have better 
things to do with our time than this dog and pony act.
  Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 15 seconds just to say to 
the gentleman from Wisconsin [Mr. Obey], the Committee on the Budget 
made a request to the Office of Management and Budget to bring their 
figures, to bring their budget here. They flatly refused to do it. The 
only way we could smoke out the President's budget is to take what he 
has been saying through the media.
  Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the distinguished gentleman from 
Sanibel, FL [Mr. Goss], a member of the Committee on Rules.
  (Mr. GOSS asked and was given permission to revise and extend his 
remarks.)
  Mr. GOSS. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from Glens Falls, NY 
[Mr. Solomon], my friend, the distinguished chairman of the Committee 
on Rules, for yielding.
  Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of the rule, but in strong opposition 
to the underlying resolution.
  Some may wonder why we are taking the time to debate this budget 
resolution, when it so clearly does not meet the simple test that the 
President signed into law just last month: A balanced budget in 2002. 
The reason is that people need to know the President is unwilling to 
come to the table with a real balanced budget proposal. It seems the 
only way to get through the spin zone at the White House is to force 
the issue--put his numbers up to the test and watch the plan fall of 
its own weight.
  Once a majority of this House rejects the President's cooked-book 
numbers then maybe the President will drop his pretenses and come to 
the table in good faith. We've given him four chances to meet this 
goal: His first two budgets, including his first so-called balanced 
budget would have resulted in $200 billion in deficits in 2002, 
according to CBO. The President's third and fourth budgets--submitted 
after he signed into law a commitment to achieve a balanced budget in 7 
years--still come up short by some $87 billion in the final year. This 
is absolutely unacceptable--to the American people, and to a bipartisan 
majority of this House.
  Yesterday the House of Representatives voted overwhelmingly in favor 
of balancing the budget in 7 years using real numbers: 351 Members, 
including a majority of the Democratic Party recognize the overwhelming 
need to balance the budget.
  Mr. Speaker, the time has come for the President to realize that he 
cannot have it both ways--he must come to the table in good faith, or 
put at risk the future of not just our children, but--according to the 
bipartisan commission on entitlement and tax reform--our entire Federal 
safety net. I am disappointed that we have come to this expose today, 
but it must be done. Support the rule; vote down the President's 
unbalanced budget and invite him to work realistically on accomplishing 
balance by 2002. Let's do what we must before 1996 arrives.
  Mr. MOAKLEY, Mr. Speaker, I yield 6 minutes to the gentleman from 
Missouri [Mr. Volkmer].
  (Mr. VOLKMER asked and was given permission to revise and extend his 
remarks.)
  Mr. VOLKMER. Mr. Speaker, well, we have got a big joke here today. We 
have got a bunch of adults acting as children. I can remember back when 
I was a youngster and the circus would come to town, Ringling Brothers/
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Show on Earth.'' Well, Mr. Speaker, this is the greatest show on Earth 
today.
  It is unbelievable that we would have grown people playing games that 
are being played here today, knowing that the resolution that they are 
going to offer is not the President's budget; it is one that they made 
up, what they say is based on what the President proposed way back 
when, not today, and they are playing games. They are trying to fool 
the public.
  Mr. Speaker, it is really just a plain old show. That is all it is, 
with no real purpose as far as legislators are concerned.
  Mr. Speaker, I have been a legislator in the State legislature and in 
this Congress for 29 years. I have never, in my history, ever seen an 
act like this. We do not see an act this good on Broadway. I do not 
know why we do not sell tickets for this big show, because that is all 
it is.
  Who is the ringmaster? Well, the Speaker is. There is no question in 
my mind. The Speaker has divined that this is the greatest show, and we 
have seen the shows that the Speaker has presented in the past.
  So come one, come all. Come and visit the show, because that is all 
it is. At the end, this whole proposal will not hardly get a vote, if 
one, in this whole Congress.
  So what is the purpose? The whole purpose? The purpose is they want a 
show. What it is is all part of a game. It is all part of the game that 
started not just yesterday, not a week ago, not a month ago. This game 
started way back in the spring when the majority decided that they were 
not going to pass the appropriation bills in time for September 30, so 
the Government would run, because they wanted to use the shutdown of 
the Government in order to force the President and the Democrats to 
accept their budget.
  Mr. Speaker, one has nothing to do with the other. Appropriation 
bills are separate bills that should have been passed, but they did not 
want to. They decided that they could force the President, in order to 
not shut down the Government.
  Mr. Speaker, I say to the President, ``Mr. President, I want to tell 
you, and I want to tell this House, you stand firm for your principles. 
I will stay with you right to the end.''

  When is the end? Maybe sometime next year when these people finally 
realize on the other side of the aisle what they have done not only to 
Government employees, but what they have done unmercifully, mean-
spirited, radical, revolution to this country, this great country of 
ours.
  Mr. Speaker, they say they are patriots. They are not patriots when 
they are willing to shut down Wall Street; when they are willing to 
shut down the bond market. They are not patriots when they are willing 
to tell investors that their money is not worth anything when they get 
down to the bond market, because we could very well get there on the 
road we are going and the at attitude that has been taken by the 
majority.

                              {time}  1300

  How long, Mr. President, I say, Mr. President, you stand with your 
principles as long as it takes until the majority realizes that you are 
not going to cave in to their blackmail. That is all it is, pure 
blackmail, pure threats. Do not cave in. I ask my Democratic friends 
not to cave in. Stand firm. Stand firm for our principles. If they want 
to ruin the country, let them ruin the country.
  I would like to say one other thing. At the time that I was off from 
here and when my wife was ill, I used to watch the news. I did not have 
time to play silly games. I listened to people like Tom Brokaw and 
Peter Jennings and Dan Rather, read the Washington Post, Wall Street 
Journal, and other noteworthy newspapers.
  Not one of those people know what is really going on here in this 
House, not a one of them. They are ignorant. I never saw such major 
commentators in the media with such major influence in this country, 
that do not realize what the majority, under Newt Gingrich, is planning 
to do to this country in order to try to force the President and the 
Democrat Members to accept their priorities and what they believe in.
  They do not believe in compromise. The Speaker has said there is no 
compromise. Ask any one of them to take the tax cuts out of the bill, 
ask them. They will not do it. They could have a balanced budget in 7 
years if they just take their tax cuts out. That is all they have to 
do. Then we can work through the rest of it.
  Members have seen a budget. We voted on it in this House, the 
coalition budget. That was the best budget that has ever been offered 
to either one of these bodies. Yet the Republican Members say ``no,'' 
they will not take it because it does not have that tax cut for the 
rich.
  Well, folks that tells you something. It is a tax cut for the rich 
that they are after.
  Mr. MOAKLEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from 
Utah [Mr. Orton].
  (Mr. ORTON asked and was given permission to revise and extend his 
remarks.)
  Mr. ORTON. Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to this rule and urge my 
colleagues to defeat the previous question so that in fact we could 
bring the coalition budget to the floor of the House for debate. 
Obviously the parties do not wish to negotiate in what is supposed to 
be taking place in negotiations between the House and Senate leadership 
and the President. It appears that they wish to negotiate the budget 
here on the floor of the House by bringing this particular resolution. 
If we are going to do that, then bring the coalition budget to the 
floor and let us present it also. If we are going to negotiate here, 
bring all of the options to the floor of the House under an open rule 
without time limits and let us, all of us, stay right here in this 
House without recessing, without closing the doors until we battle it 
out and come to an agreement.
  If that is what my colleagues want to do here on the floor, then open 
it up and let us do it. But to bring this kind of a closed rule 
forward, all it is is lobbing hand grenades back and forth between the 
Hill and the White House. It is very nonproductive, and the people in 
the country are getting tired of it.
  Rather than lobbing grenades, if we really wanted to do something 
real, last night we brought a resolution to this floor to restate the 
parameters of the negotiations that are supposed to be taking place but 
are not. And we said it has to be under CBO scoring. I stood up and 
said, fine, but we could make this resolution better by expanding it to 
say, let us get the negotiations going and keep them going until there 
is a resolution and let us keep the Government operating while 
negotiations are going on in good faith.
  Do Members know what happened? My colleagues in the majority objected 
to that addition to the resolution. They object to allowing us to bring 
the coalition budget to the floor, to talk about what is really a 
middle-of-the-road plan.
  Let us decide where we are going to negotiate. If we are going to 
negotiate in S. 207 with the President, with the leaders of the House 
and Senate, then let them negotiate and let us stop bringing each offer 
to the floor to try to bash it and say what is wrong with that and 
criticize it. That is not the way you conduct negotiations. If you 
conducted negotiations that way out in the real world, you would never 
negotiate with anybody.
  So if in fact we are going to conduct those negotiations, let us let 
them do their work but let us pass the resolution to help them. Let us 
try and find ways to come together with real solutions instead of just 
lobbing grenades back and forth.
  I submit to my colleagues that, if we could bring the coalition 
budget to the floor along with all of the other budget alternatives, 
close the doors in this place and keep everybody in here until we come 
to a resolution, we could find agreement. It would be an agreement that 
would have bipartisan support, but that agreement would have to start 
from the middle of this body and move out, not from either opposite 
pole, and move toward the center.
  Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 15 seconds.
  I say to my good friend we have had the coalition budget on the 
floor. We have had the Republican alternative on the floor. The only 
alternative we cannot get on the floor is the President's, and that is 
why we have had to take his proposals, even though it is not a budget, 
put it in the form of a budget, and bring it to the floor today. 

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  Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Glenwood 
Springs, CO [Mr. McInnis], a very distinguished member of the Committee 
on Rules.
  Mr. McINNIS. Mr. Speaker, it is all very, very simple. The President 
made a deal, and the people of America expect the President to stick to 
his deal.
  Granted, the President does not have a very good track record. I 
looked in the Wall Street Journal today and they have got an ad. Let me 
repeat what that ad says.
  ``Without a balanced budget, the party is over, no matter which party 
you are in. There are moments in history when a single choice can make 
the difference between vastly differing futures, one a bright future, 
the other a dark. We believe that you, the political leaders of this 
country, are now confronting such a choice in your deliberations over a 
plan to balance the Federal budget.''
  It comes back to a balanced budget. The President made that promise 
to the American people. All of us saw it. All of us rejoiced because 
this President said he would agree to a 7-year balanced budget, which 
surprised all of us, because, as you remember, he went to 5 to 9, 8, 
but he agreed in writing to a 7-year budget scored by the CBO.
  Yesterday he put a bunch of children behind him, kind of as props and 
attacks everybody who is expecting him to keep his word.
  It is very simple. Mr. President, keep your word to the American 
people. When you talk to those children, talk to them about Scout's 
honor, talk to them about the importance of keeping your word. That is 
what it all comes down to.
  Mr. ABERCROMBIE. Mr. Speaker, the President is being maligned. That 
is against the rules of the House.
  Mr. Speaker, I demand that those words be taken down.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman will suspend. The clerk will 
report the words.

                              {time}  1308

  Mr. ABERCROMBIE. Mr. Speaker, I object to Mr. Walker's contention to 
me. Mr. Speaker, the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. Walker] just 
stated on the floor the gentleman has been maligned, so that is 
equivalent to the President.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Hawaii will suspend. No 
business is in order until the Clerk has reported the words.
  Mr. ABERCROMBIE. If that is the case, Mr. Speaker, somebody should 
have taken down the words.
  Mr. McINNIS. Order in the House, Mr. Speaker.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Hawaii will suspend.
  Mr. CUNNINGHAM. Mr. Speaker, parliamentary inquiry. The gentleman 
should not be----
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The House must first deal with the matter 
before it.
  Mr. WALKER. The gentleman should not be at the desk.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Clerk will report the words.
  The Clerk read as follows:

       Yesterday he puts a bunch of children behind him kind of as 
     props and attacks everybody who is expecting him to keep 
     his word. It is very simple. Mr. President, keep your word 
     to the American people. When you talk to those children, 
     talk to them about scout's honor, talk to them about the 
     importance of keeping your word. That is what it all comes 
     down to.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. In the opinion of the Chair, this is not an 
improper personal reference to the President.


                        parliamentary inquiries

  Mr. VOLKMER. Mr. Speaker, I have a parliamentary inquiry.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman will state his parliamentary 
inquiry.
  Mr. VOLKMER. Were not those words just read a direct statement to the 
President of the United States? Read them again. That is not, under the 
rules of the House, permitted.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. That is not a parliamentary inquiry.
  Mr. ABERCROMBIE. Mr. Speaker, parliamentary inquiry.
  Mr. VOLKMER. That was directed right at the President.
  Mr. ABERCROMBIE. Mr. Speaker, parliamentary inquiry.
  Mr. VOLKMER. Not to the Speaker.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Member should not directly address the 
President.
  Mr. VOLKMER. They were, too. Read them.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. While the Chair will remind all Members to 
address the Speaker, not the President, the words were not a pejorative 
reference to the President.
  Mr. ABERCROMBIE. Parliamentary inquiry, Mr. Speaker.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Hawaii will state his 
parliamentary inquiry.
  Mr. ABERCROMBIE. Did I understand you correctly, just before your 
last sentence, that you did indicate that the words taken down were not 
out of order, question No. 1; and, No. 2, question No. 2, did you make 
an admonition to the body not to make direct references to the 
President?
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Members are to direct their remarks to 
the Chair, and not to the President, and the Chair did not declare that 
the remarks were otherwise out of order.
  Mr. ABERCROMBIE. A parliamentary inquiry, Mr. Speaker, is it in order 
to direct remarks from this floor to the President?
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Members have been reminded that it is 
proper to direct their remarks to the Speaker and not to the President.
  Mr. ABERCROMBIE. I thank the Chair very much.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Chair recognizes the gentleman from 
Colorado [Mr. McInnis].
  Mr. McINNIS. Prior to the distraction, we got back to the key issue 
here, and the key issue is we have got to reach a balanced budget. That 
is what the American people expect, and that is what this Congress 
should deliver, and in a few moments, we are going to get an 
opportunity to vote on the proposal the President calls a balanced 
budget.
  I would venture to say very few Republicans are going to support 
that, excuse me, very few Democrats are going to support that, because 
they know, as we know, that his proposal will not balance the budget.
  Mr. MOAKLEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from 
California [Mr. Miller].
  (Mr. MILLER of California asked and was given permission to revise 
and extend his remarks.)
  Mr. MILLER of California. Mr. Speaker, the reason we are here talking 
about a Republican proposal that they want to pretend is the 
President's budget is because what the Republicans do not want to talk 
about is their budget, because this may be the most unpopular budget in 
the history of this country because the American people have discovered 
over the last several months that the Republicans are set on a course 
which is to devastate the Medicare Program of this Nation, to remove 
that health care protection from our seniors, to devastate the Medicaid 
and abolish the Medicaid Program that provides health care to poor 
women and poor children of this Nation, to people who have lost their 
jobs, and that devastates the environment of this country by removing 
the environmental protections, and it devastates the education programs 
of this country by savaging the cuts and the support for education.
  This is not the President's budget. But, again, the Republicans would 
rather talk about this than talk about what is in their budget. They do 
not want to talk about the fact that they have not kept the agreement 
with the President, that the budget that would come from that agreement 
would protect Medicare, would protect Medicaid, would protect 
education, and would protect the environment. They have not met that 
test.
  So what did they do? They shut down the Government because they do 
not want to discuss the fact that they have failed the test to protect 
Medicare and Medicaid. They have not met that test.
  What are they going to talk about today? They have decided they would 
try and talk about the President of the United States, as opposed to 
their budget.
  They should not be let off the hook so cheaply. The fact of the 
matter is that not only do the Democrats reject this Republican budget, 
but overwhelming numbers of the American citizenry reject this budget. 
Why? Because they know now what it means to their families. They know 
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parents and their grandparents. They know what it means to their 
family's health security should they lose their job.
  It is the Republican budget that devastates those programs, and the 
Republicans do not want to talk about it.
  Mr. MOAKLEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from 
Texas [Mr. Stenholm].
  (Mr. STENHOLM asked and was given permission to revise and extend his 
remarks.)
  Mr. STENHOLM. Mr. Speaker, at first glance today I thought that this 
was not going to be a very helpful exercise, and with some of the tone, 
I think that was proven right.
  But let us get back to taking a lemon and let us try to make some 
lemonade out of it. I am on the nonnegotiating team. We have spent the 
last 2 weeks plus trying to get to the table and discuss the policy 
differences, and we have been denied that day after day after day. We 
have been denied the opportunity to sit down and talk about the honest 
policy differences.
  So I look at this as an opportunity. I ask every Member of this body 
to oppose the previous question. Oppose the previous question and let 
us spend the next 3 hours discussing the coalition budget under an open 
rule in which any Member of this body on either side of the House can 
sit down and talk about what we like and dislike about the policy that 
has been presented by the coalition. If we defeat this previous 
question, we can do that, and I say in the spirit of Christmas and 
fairness, instead of spending the next 3 hours debating a budget which 
really has never been presented, which will get no votes, and that is 
what it should, let us spend the next 3 hours dealing with policy 
differences where we have some agreement on both sides of the aisle and 
some disagreement.
  You know, this budget agreement and why we have been unable to 
negotiate has been painful to me because I read and re-read the 
President has agreed to support a 7-year balanced budget CBO scored. 
What he has not agreed was to present this final offer in the beginning 
of the negotiating process.
  What the President has argued for is let us have consultation and 
negotiation, and that is something that I sense because I have talked 
to enough friends on the Republican side of the aisle as well as my 
colleagues on the Democratic side of the aisle that we would love to 
get to doing. But the rule before us does not allow that. It is not 
helpful, and it is not constructive. It certainly is not in keeping 
with the Christmas spirit.
  Let us defeat the previous question. If we defeat the previous 
question, we will put the coalition budget on the floor under an open 
rule, not a closed rule, and we can spend 3 hours of constructive 
discussions and see whether we might not be able to bridge some of the 
differences before us.
  Our Government is shut down for no good reason. There is no good 
reason for us to have our employees out on the streets before 
Christmas. We cannot bring ourselves to sit down as intelligent men and 
women and discuss the policy differences when we have already agreed in 
the end there will be a balanced budget CBO scored, 7 years, that will, 
in fact, be passed and certified.
  I ask the defeat of the previous question, and let us have a 
productive 3 hours of discussion.
  Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from 
Pennsylvania [Mr. Clinger], one of the most respected Members of this 
body, chairman of the Committee on Government Reform and Oversight.
  Mr. CLINGER. Mr. Speaker, today we have before us Clinton IV--the 
President's fourth attempt this year to balance the Federal budget, 
Unfortunately, despite the rhetoric coming from the White House, this 
budget--like its three predecessors--never reaches balance
  When the President signed the last continuing resolution into law 30 
days ago, he gave his word to Congress and the American people that he 
would work in good faith to balance the budget in 7 years using honest 
CBO numbers. However, since then, the White House has given very little 
indication that it truly wants a balanced budget.
  The latest White House budget is evidence of the President's lack of 
commitment to balancing the budget because it once again relies on 
overly optimistic economic projections to balance the budget.
  The Clinton administration has decided to cook the books and use 
accounting gimmicks to give the illusion of a balanced budget. But in 
reality, Clinton IV falls $487 billion short of a balanced budget, 
leaving us with a deficit or $87 billion in 2002.
  Mr. Speaker, we all know there are only two ways to balance the 
budget. We can reduce outlays or increase revenues. In laymen's terms, 
that means we can either cut Federal spending or raise taxes.
  Assuming the White House is working in good faith, it's my 
understanding the President can't find any more savings in the Federal 
budget beyond what is in Clinton IV.
  Mr. Speaker, that's fine with me. I take the President at his word 
that he can't cut any more wasteful, unnecessary spending in the 
Federal Government's $1.5 trillion annual budget.
  I accept the fact that he can't find anymore budgetary savings by 
reducing the size of Government and making it more efficient.
  And, I believe him and other White House officials when they say that 
this is the President's best attempt to balance the budget while 
protecting his priorities.
  However, the fact still remains that the President's budget never 
reaches balance. And if he can't cut any more spending, then he only 
has one other option--to raise taxes.
  To me, this sounds an awful lot like the Clinton budget of 1993--the 
largest tax increase in U.S. history--the one the President said was a 
mistake just several weeks ago.
  It appears the President wants to raise taxes $487 billion to balance 
the budget in 7 years. If it is, it's time you square with the American 
people and admit that you can't find any more Government to cut and 
you'll have to raise their taxes, again.
  Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to reject the newest, largest 
record-breaking tax increase in U.S. history.
  Mr. MOAKLEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman 
from Texas [Mr. Coleman].
  (Mr. COLEMAN asked and was given permission to revise and extend his 
remarks.)
  Mr. COLEMAN. Mr. Speaker, I guess the question a lot of us had when 
we saw that this was on the calendar, what exactly or from what numbers 
are we working? I did not get a budget sent to my office like I got 
when the President first submitted his budget, nor did I get one when I 
saw the Republican budget like that. I retrieved from the desk of the 
gentleman from New York [Mr. Solomon] there a copy.
  I was wondering what happened in the transportation and related 
provisions section, as the ranking member on that particular 
subcommittee. I wonder if you might be able to give me some idea about 
what this balanced budget proposal by the administration did to the 
minimum allocation program.
  Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
  Mr. COLEMAN. I yield to the gentleman from New York.
  Mr. SOLOMON. There is a 2-hour general debate coming up in which the 
gentleman from Ohio [Mr. Kasich] has the entire outline. We would be 
very glad to answer your question. The truth is that document you have 
there is $87 billion out of balance in the year 2002.
  Mr. COLEMAN. No, excuse me. Reclaiming my time, the gentleman from 
New York makes that claim. But he is on the Committee on Rules. Should 
we not wait for the gentleman from Ohio [Mr. Kasich] to tell us it is 
$87 billion out of whack? I mean, the gentleman from Ohio [Mr. Kasich] 
has all the knowledge in this arena, does he not? I understood that he, 
reclaiming my time, if the gentleman will permit me, I understood it 
was the gentleman from Ohio [Mr. Kasich] who knew best what, where to 
go, to look for dollars and exactly which numbers we should be using. 
My understanding of that is that we have all agreed CBO, most of us 
have agreed, CBO is the proper place to look.
  Yet I am not sure that the gentleman from Ohio [Mr. Kasich], who is 
putting his pencil to this, has an accurate number at all. Certainly, 
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Rules does not. You are taking the word of the gentleman from Ohio [Mr. 
Kasich] only. Is that correct?
  Mr. SOLOMON. If the gentleman will yield further, I am taking the 
word of the Committee on the Budget. When you look at this document, 
again it is $87 billion out of whack.
  Mr. COLEMAN. Reclaiming my time, because I am going to run out of 
time, that is not true either, I say to the gentleman from New York. 
You are taking the word of the Committee on the Budget. This document 
right here, let me point out, reclaiming my time, Mr. Speaker, looking 
at this document, it says right on the top of it, and this is what is 
amazing about this waste of time under this rule, that we are all being 
put upon, ``Prepared by the majority staff of the House Committee on 
the Budget.'' That means only the Republican staff prepared this. And 
that is what the reality of all of this is. This does not mean anything 
else but that.
  Members, Members from the majority and the minority were probably not 
even party to this. Certainly not from the minority, not even the 
minority staff. I think that what you are asking us to do, I say to the 
gentleman from New York [Mr. Solomon] is ridiculous.
  Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 15 seconds. The gentleman 
failed to read the next line of the document before. It says, 
``Incorporating updated Congressional Budget Office estimates.'' That 
is what is here. The gentleman knows that.
  Mr. MOAKLEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from 
Mississippi [Mr. Taylor].
  Mr. TAYLOR of Mississippi. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for 
yielding me this time.
  I, along with the gentleman from Texas [Mr. Stenholm], urge that we 
defeat the previous question, defeat the rule, bring the coalition 
budget to the floor under an open rule.
  Folks, we have not had a President submit a balanced budget probably 
in my lifetime. President Reagan never came within $100 billion. 
President Bush never came within $200 billion. President Clinton has 
stayed more or less in that league, between $200 billion and $300 
billion. This is nothing new, neither Democratic nor Republican.
  There are folks out of work. It is a week before Christmas. We are 80 
days behind on our schedule to submit a budget for next year, this 
year. Let us cut the nonsense out.
  I know the President's budget is a nonstarter. You know it is a 
nonstarter.
  So many of you who have come up to me privately in different places 
and said let us get the coalition budget on the floor, if you have some 
parts of it you think are too high, offer an amendment to cut it. If 
there are parts you think are too low, offer an amendment to increase 
it. Let us just come to the floor with some ground rules where we have 
to be at the end of the day, so we do not end up with a $270 billion 
annual operating deficit next year under the Republican budget, I say 
to the gentleman from New York [Mr. Solomon], or an $80 billion-
something budget deficit in 2002 under the President's budget.
  Let us fix it. We are legislators. It is a week before Christmas, and 
people are wondering whether or not they are going to get paid. 
Veterans are wondering whether or not they are going to get their 
checks.
  Let us act like human beings. Let us act like statesmen. Let us 
defeat the previous question. Let us bring the coalition budget to the 
floor under an open rule, and let us pass a budget that the people of 
the United States want us to do and will be proud of us for doing.
  Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Mt. 
Holly, NJ [Mr. Saxton], the vice chairman of our Joint Economic 
Committee.

                              {time}  1330

  Mr. SAXTON. Mr. Speaker, I would just say to my good friend from 
Mississippi, Mr. Taylor, who just explained that Presidents have not 
traditionally offered balanced budgets, that is what makes this 
Republican conference different. We offered and passed a balanced 
budget. Today we are here to look at the President's latest proposal. I 
rise in opposition to it because it will increase the national debt and 
it fails to provide tax incentives to create economic growth.
  I believe the President's real objective is political. But sooner or 
later, the American people will realize that the President is not 
serious about a balanced budget and he is not serious about a middle-
class tax cut either.
  Look, economic growth is brought about through a good tax policy, and 
that is not a partisan issue. It is bipartisan. Jack Kennedy knew so in 
1963 and he said so, and the Republicans in this House know it today as 
well.
  Also, the President's latest budget proposals fail to balance the 
budget. In fact, this proposal will add $1 trillion to the national 
debt. It is important that the American people know were the President 
is and it is important that he knows where the Congress is.
  The excessive level of Federal spending is a serious drag on economic 
growth, and that is beyond question. According to a Joint Economic 
Committee study, which I will release soon, for every dollar of 
projected spending, the economy is reduced by 38 cents. In other words, 
for every $100 billion in projected Federal spending growth, the 
economy will shrink by $38 billion.
  The Republican approach would reverse this process and for the first 
time in decades we have an opportunity to balance the budget, and it is 
not through this proposal.
  Mr. MOAKLEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from 
North Carolina [Mr. Watt].
  Mr. WATT of North Carolina. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for 
yielding me this time.
  Mr. Speaker, this is not rocket science that is going on here; it is 
kind of like when you have done something that you do not want to talk 
about and you try to change the subject. That is exactly what my 
Republican colleagues are trying to do.
  They have got a budget that an overwhelming majority of the American 
public does not like, and they do not want to talk about their budget. 
So they bring something to the floor that has no relevance to what is 
going on to all, and they try to change the subject. That is what this 
debate is all about. It is a waste of time.
  Before I came to this body, I used to practice law, and I used to get 
so frustrated when we had domestic cases and the party with the money 
would say ``I am not even going to support my children while we have 
got a debate going on, while we have got differences between the wife 
and the husband.''
  That is exactly what is happening in this body as we speak. We have 
got people out of work, the Government shut down, our children are 
starving, and the parties are saying ``We don't care about it, because 
we have got a dispute going on.'' The people with the money, the 
majority party, has said we will not even give you a continuing 
resolution to feed the children of America while this dispute is going 
on, because we do not like you and we do not like your proposals.
  Reject this rule and this resolution.
  Mr. MOAKLEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from 
Hawaii [Mr. Abercrombie].
  Mr. ABERCROMBIE. Mr. Speaker, in asking that we reject this rule, I 
want to reiterate that the proposition before us has been prepared by 
the majority staff. It purports to utilize Congressional Budget Office 
projections, and perhaps something of what the President has proposed 
in one form or another. But I would submit to you, Mr. Speaker, that 
the real agenda here today is to do the following, in the guise of 
balancing the budget: To actually undermine and in fact to subvert 
Medicare and Medicaid and to see to it that a tax giveaway goes to the 
very wealthy people in ths country, and ultimately to privatize Social 
Security.
  That is the real agenda, I believe, behind the whole argument about 
the balanced budget, because this balanced budget is nothing but an 
illusion. As the gentleman from Mississippi [Mr. Taylor] indicated 
previously, from a copy of a letter I have from the Congressional 
Budget Office in 1996, the deficit under the Republican budget proposal 
is $260 billion. Reject the rule and the resolution.
  Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from 
Tennessee [Mr. Bryant], an outstanding new Member.
  Mr. BRYANT of Tennessee. Mr. Speaker, I thank the chairman for 
yielding me time.
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  agreeing to balance the budget in 7 years, using good, real numbers, 
CBO numbers, and for the first 3 weeks or so of that 30 days, his team 
sat on the bench on their hands and did nothing in this.
  In the last few days of this 30 days, before the Government shutdown, 
they came forward with something I thought was a budget. They said it 
was a budget, I understood it was a budget, but it was not scored by 
CBO numbers. I today understand that my colleagues on the other side 
are saying, ``This is not a budget and we do not want anything to do 
with it, and instead let us bring forth the coalition budget.''
  The coalition budget was brought forth about 2 months ago and was 
voted on, and the Democrats voted on their own budget there. Sixty-
eight people voted for it, and 128 of their own people rejected that 
budget. So now they are trying to distance themselves from the 
President's budget and go back to the coalition budget, which they 
rejected soundly last October. But the President's budget falls short 
$87 billion at the year 2002.
  Now the current position of the President and his people is ``We 
don't think we can do it in 7 years, and we don't want to use CBO 
numbers.'' But, know what? The American people that sent me to 
Washington want us to balance the budget, they want us to do it this 
year, and they want us to do it with good numbers, not cookbook 
numbers.
  The results of yesterday's vote in this House indicates that most 
Members in this House want it done that way; 351 people voted to do it 
with CBO numbers in 7 years. Only 40 people voted against it. I cannot 
imagine 40 people voting against it.
  Yesterday, the stock market, as a result of the lack of confidence in 
this President to balance the budget, fell 100 points.
  I simply would say to this Congress and to those in Washington that 
Santa Claus no longer drops down from the Rotunda; that the people that 
sent me to Washington last year, in November of 1994, want us to send a 
message that Santa Claus does not live in Washington anymore, he moved 
to the North Pole.
  Mr. MOAKLEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from 
Texas [Ms. Jackson-Lee].
  (Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas asked and was given permission to revise 
and extend her remarks.)
  Mr. COLEMAN. Mr. Speaker, will the gentlewoman yield?
  Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas. I yield to the gentleman from Texas.
  Mr. COLEMAN. Mr. Speaker, I wanted to be sure, the last speaker in 
the well had his metaphors wrong. It was the Easter Bunny that was 
supposed to pass down. You all were supposed to pass the budget back in 
April.
  Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas. Mr. Speaker, reclaiming my time, I thank 
the ranking member of the Committee on Rules for helping me to 
understand what we are doing this afternoon. I have got a document here 
that my Republican friends say is somebody's budget. I do not know what 
it is. It has handwritten numbers. I think the American people should 
really know whether we are serious. They are handwritten numbers in a 
document they tell me is supposed to be the President's budget.
  But I would ask the gentleman from Massachusetts [Mr. Moakley] if he 
would answer a question, because we need to be about the people's 
business. As the former chairman of this committee, if the Committee on 
Rules was presenting a real serious intent to balance the budget, would 
we put forward a budget that no one knows where it came from, with no 
opportunity for input, amendment, or offering of alternatives? Is that 
something that has likely happened to the gentleman's knowledge during 
the time of his tenure here.
  Mr. MOAKLEY. Mr. Speaker, will the gentlewoman yield?
  Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas. I yield to the gentleman from 
Massachusetts.
  Mr. MOAKLEY. Mr. Speaker, this is not the President's budget. It was 
put together by the Republican majority and brought out without the 
President's knowledge. He has not seen it. OMB has not seen it. If we 
are going to put out a bill to really attack the budget, we would have 
had one or two or three alternatives. This is not the way to do it.
  Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas. Mr. Speaker, reclaiming my time, I thank 
the gentleman for his wisdom and as well his knowledge.
  Let me suggest that with a budget that has nothing but handwritten 
numbers, no prior notice to this body this is not a budget. Let me tell 
you what we are really fighting about, a Republican budget that denies 
5 million low income elderly access to Medicare, a Republican budget 
that denies 1.3 million people the Medicaid they need, a Republican 
budget that denies 3.8 million children the Medicaid they need. What we 
need to do is pass a clean continuing resolution to allow a real debate 
on protecting Medicare, Medicaid, the environment, and education along 
with a Balanced Budget.
  We have not been sent here to be obstructionists to keep the 
Government's doors closed, to burden the people working in the 
Government to provide services to the American people. This is a 
falsehood. This is a document that has handwritten numbers on it. It is 
not realistic.
  Let us pass a clean continuing resolution, open the Government, sit 
down at the table of negotiation and pass a budget that the Republicans 
were supposed to pass in April of this year that balance the budget 
while protecting Medicare, Medicaid, education, jobs, and the 
environment.
  Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from 
Delmar, CA, Mr. Duke Cunningham, one of the people I admire most in 
this body, a former fighter pilot.
  Mr. CUNNINGHAM. Mr. Speaker, everything that both sides are arguing 
about boils down to power. For 40 years the Democrats had the power to 
spend money out of the Federal Government, which improved their chances 
to get reelected. They are not handling being in the minority very 
well, and they are doing everything they can to get the power and the 
ability to spend money.
  They do not want a balanced budget, because it limits their ability 
to get reelected. Let me give you two different ways. One, let us take 
a look at education. Two principles: One is the power in the Federal 
Government, the other is back to the people.
  Let us look at the President's direct lending program. It cost $1 
billion more than sending it down to the private industries to do it. 
$1 billion, and that does not even include what it costs to take the 
money back, because it takes seven years to find that out. But yet we 
turn it back to private enterprise and save $1 billion.
  We increase the amount of money going to education, but we cut out 
the Federal bureaucracy, the power orientation in Washington, DC. We 
increase Pell grants to the highest rates. We increase student loans by 
50 percent. Yet the other side says you are destroying education. What 
we are destroying is your ability to disburse money down out of the 
Federal Government
  Let us look at Goals 2000. We only get about 23 cents out of every 
dollar back into education because of the bureaucracy. Logically, you 
would want to increase education by getting more money down to the 
people and to education. Goals 2000 at the Federal level, absolutely, 
we killed it out of the Federal level. We send the money back to the 
States. They do not have the rules, the regulations. That 7 percent of 
the Federal Government education budget requires over 50 percent of the 
rules and regulations, 75 percent of the paperwork. It is not effective 
to do it that way. But yet you still want the power, the power to 
disburse money, so you can get reelected, and that is wrong, and that 
is what this whole fight is about.
  Mr. MOAKLEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield 30 seconds to the gentleman from 
Michigan [Mr. Dingell], the former chairman.
  (Mr. DINGELL asked and was given permission to revise and extend his 
remarks.)
  Mr. DINGELL. Mr. Speaker, this is a political exercise. It does not 
have anything to do with dealing with the budget or the balancing of 
the budget. The proposal has never been read, it has never been exposed 
to the light of day. My Republican colleagues know as much about the 
Russian budget as they know about what is in this legislation. The bill 
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committee, there is no opportunity to amend. There is not even a motion 
to recommit made available under this rule.
  Mr. Speaker, this is a sorry charade. Only a scoundrel would say or a 
fool would say that this is a fair process, and only a fool would 
believe that this is a fair process. This is a mechanism simply to get 
my Republican colleagues off the hook because they have closed down the 
Federal Government.
  Mr. MOAKLEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
  (Mr. MOAKLEY asked and was given permission to revise and extend his 
remarks.)
  Mr. MOAKLEY. Mr. Speaker, I submit the following material for the 
Record.

  Previous Question Amendment to House Resolution 309 To Consider the 
                  Coalition Budget Under an Open Rule

       At the end of the resolution, add the following:
       Upon disposition of House Concurrent Resolution 122, the 
     House shall immediately resolve itself into the Committee of 
     the Whole to consider a concurrent resolution consisting of 
     the text of the amendment in the nature of a substitute 
     numbered 1 and printed in the Congressional Record of May 16, 
     1995. General debate shall not exceed three hours, equally 
     divided and controlled by the proponent and an opponent 
     thereto. After the conclusion of consideration of the 
     concurrent resolution for amendment, the committee shall rise 
     and report the concurrent resolution to the House with such 
     amendments as may have been adopted. The previous question 
     shall be considered as ordered on the concurrent resolution 
     and amendments thereto to final adoption without intervening 
     motion. The concurrent resolution shall not be subject to a 
     demand for a division of the question of its adoption.

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H.R. 1*........................  Compliance........  H. Res. 6            Closed................           None.
H. Res. 6......................  Opening Day Rules   H. Res. 5            Closed; contained a              None.
                                  Package.                                 closed rule on H.R. 1                
                                                                           within the closed                    
                                                                           rule.                                
H.R. 5*........................  Unfunded Mandates.  H. Res. 38           Restrictive; Motion               N/A.
                                                                           adopted over                         
                                                                           Democratic objection                 
                                                                           in the Committee of                  
                                                                           the Whole to limit                   
                                                                           debate on section 4;                 
                                                                           Pre-printing gets                    
                                                                           preference.                          
H.J. Res. 2*...................  Balanced Budget...  H. Res. 44           Restrictive; only              2R; 4D.
                                                                           certain substitutes.                 
H. Res. 43.....................  Committee Hearings  H. Res. 43 (OJ)      Restrictive;                      N/A.
                                  Scheduling.                              considered in House                  
                                                                           no amendments.                       
H.R. 2*........................  Line Item Veto....  H. Res. 55           Open; Pre-printing                N/A.
                                                                           gets preference.                     
H.R. 665*......................  Victim Restitution  H. Res. 61           Open; Pre-printing                N/A.
                                  Act of 1995.                             gets preference.                     
H.R. 666*......................  Exclusionary Rule   H. Res. 60           Open; Pre-printing                N/A.
                                  Reform Act of                            gets preference.                     
                                  1995.                                                                         
H.R. 667*......................  Violent Criminal    H. Res. 63           Restrictive; 10 hr.               N/A.
                                  Incarceration Act                        Time Cap on                          
                                  of 1995.                                 amendments.                          
H.R. 668*......................  The Criminal Alien  H. Res. 69           Open; Pre-printing                N/A.
                                  Deportation                              gets preference;                     
                                  Improvement Act.                         Contains self-                       
                                                                           executing provision.                 
H.R. 728*......................  Local Government    H. Res. 79           Restrictive; 10 hr.               N/A.
                                  Law Enforcement                          Time Cap on                          
                                  Block Grants.                            amendments; Pre-                     
                                                                           printing gets                        
                                                                           preference.                          
H.R. 7*........................  National Security   H. Res. 83           Restrictive; 10 hr.               N/A.
                                  Revitalization                           Time Cap on                          
                                  Act.                                     amendments; Pre-                     
                                                                           printing gets                        
                                                                           preference.                          
H.R. 729*......................  Death Penalty/      N/A                  Restrictive; brought              N/A.
                                  Habeas.                                  up under UC with a 6                 
                                                                           hr. time cap on                      
                                                                           amendments.                          
S. 2...........................  Senate Compliance.  N/A                  Closed; Put on                   None.
                                                                           Suspension Calendar                  
                                                                           over Democratic                      
                                                                           objection.                           
H.R. 831.......................  To Permanently      H. Res. 88           Restrictive; makes in              1D.
                                  Extend the Health                        order only the                       
                                  Insurance                                Gibbons amendment;                   
                                  Deduction for the                        Waives all points of                 
                                  Self-Employed.                           order; Contains self-                
                                                                           executing provision.                 
H.R. 830*......................  The Paperwork       H. Res. 91           Open..................            N/A.
                                  Reduction Act.                                                                
H.R. 889.......................  Emergency           H. Res. 92           Restrictive; makes in              1D.
                                  Supplemental/                            order only the Obey                  
                                  Rescinding                               substitute.                          
                                  Certain Budget                                                                
                                  Authority.                                                                    
H.R. 450*......................  Regulatory          H. Res. 93           Restrictive; 10 hr.               N/A.
                                  Moratorium.                              Time Cap on                          
                                                                           amendments; Pre-                     
                                                                           printing gets                        
                                                                           preference.                          
H.R. 1022*.....................  Risk Assessment...  H. Res. 96           Restrictive; 10 hr.               N/A.
                                                                           Time Cap on                          
                                                                           amendments.                          
H.R. 926*......................  Regulatory          H. Res. 100          Open..................            N/A.
                                  Flexibility.                                                                  
H.R. 925*......................  Private Property    H. Res. 101          Restrictive; 12 hr.                1D.
                                  Protection Act.                          time cap on                          
                                                                           amendments; Requires                 
                                                                           Members to pre-print                 
                                                                           their amendments in                  
                                                                           the Record prior to                  
                                                                           the bill's                           
                                                                           consideration for                    
                                                                           amendment, waives                    
                                                                           germaneness and                      
                                                                           budget act points of                 
                                                                           order as well as                     
                                                                           points of order                      
                                                                           concerning                           
                                                                           appropriating on a                   
                                                                           legislative bill                     
                                                                           against the committee                
                                                                           substitute used as                   
                                                                           base text.                           
H.R. 1058*.....................  Securities          H. Res. 105          Restrictive; 8 hr.                 1D.
                                  Litigation Reform                        time cap on                          
                                  Act.                                     amendments; Pre-                     
                                                                           printing gets                        
                                                                           preference; Makes in                 
                                                                           order the Wyden                      
                                                                           amendment and waives                 
                                                                           germaneness against                  
                                                                           it.                                  
H.R. 988*......................  The Attorney        H. Res. 104          Restrictive; 7 hr.                N/A.
                                  Accountability                           time cap on                          
                                  Act of 1995.                             amendments; Pre-                     
                                                                           printing gets                        
                                                                           preference.                          
H.R. 956*......................  Product Liability   H. Res. 109          Restrictive; makes in          8D; 7R.
                                  and Legal Reform                         order only 15 germane                
                                  Act.                                     amendments and denies                
                                                                           64 germane amendments                
                                                                           from being considered.               
H.R. 1158......................  Making Emergency    H. Res. 115          Restrictive; Combines             N/A.
                                  Supplemental                             emergency H.R. 1158 &                
                                  Appropriations                           nonemergency 1159 and                
                                  and Rescissions.                         strikes the abortion                 
                                                                           provision; makes in                  
                                                                           order only pre-                      
                                                                           printed amendments                   
                                                                           that include offsets                 
                                                                           within the same                      
                                                                           chapter (deeper cuts                 
                                                                           in programs already                  
                                                                           cut); waives points                  
                                                                           of order against                     
                                                                           three amendments;                    
                                                                           waives cl 2 of rule                  
                                                                           XXI against the bill,                
                                                                           cl 2, XXI and cl 7 of                
                                                                           rule XVI against the                 
                                                                           substitute; waives cl                
                                                                           2(e) od rule XXI                     
                                                                           against the                          
                                                                           amendments in the                    
                                                                           Record; 10 hr time                   
                                                                           cap on amendments. 30                
                                                                           minutes debate on                    
                                                                           each amendment.                      
H.J. Res. 73*..................  Term Limits.......  H. Res. 116          Restrictive; Makes in           1D; 3R
                                                                           order only 4                         
                                                                           amendments considered                
                                                                           under a ``Queen of                   
                                                                           the Hill'' procedure                 
                                                                           and denies 21 germane                
                                                                           amendments from being                
                                                                           considered.                          
H.R. 4*........................  Welfare Reform....  H. Res. 119          Restrictive; Makes in         5D; 26R.
                                                                           order only 31                        
                                                                           perfecting amendments                
                                                                           and two substitutes;                 
                                                                           Denies 130 germane                   
                                                                           amendments from being                
                                                                           considered; The                      
                                                                           substitutes are to be                
                                                                           considered under a                   
                                                                           ``Queen of the Hill''                
                                                                           procedure; All points                
                                                                           of order are waived                  
                                                                           against the                          
                                                                           amendments.                          
H.R. 1271*.....................  Family Privacy Act  H. Res. 125          Open..................            N/A.
H.R. 660*......................  Housing for Older   H. Res. 126          Open..................            N/A.
                                  Persons Act.                                                                  
H.R. 1215*.....................  The Contract With   H. Res. 129          Restrictive; Self                  1D.
                                  America Tax                              Executes language                    
                                  Relief Act of                            that makes tax cuts                  
                                  1995.                                    contingent on the                    
                                                                           adoption of a                        
                                                                           balanced budget plan                 
                                                                           and strikes section                  
                                                                           3006. Makes in order                 
                                                                           only one substitute.                 
                                                                           Waives all points of                 
                                                                           order against the                    
                                                                           bill, substitute made                
                                                                           in order as original                 
                                                                           text and Gephardt                    
                                                                           substitute.                          
H.R. 483.......................  Medicare Select     H. Res. 130          Restrictive; waives cl             1D.
                                  Extension.                               2(1)(6) of rule XI                   
                                                                           against the bill;                    
                                                                           makes H.R. 1391 in                   
                                                                           order as original                    
                                                                           text; makes in order                 
                                                                           only the Dingell                     
                                                                           substitute; allows                   
                                                                           Commerce Committee to                
                                                                           file a report on the                 
                                                                           bill at any time.                    
H.R. 655.......................  Hydrogen Future     H. Res. 136          Open..................            N/A.
                                  Act.                                                                          
H.R. 1361......................  Coast Guard         H. Res. 139          Open; waives sections             N/A.
                                  Authorization.                           302(f) and 308(a) of                 
                                                                           the Congressional                    
                                                                           Budget Act against                   
                                                                           the bill's                           
                                                                           consideration and the                
                                                                           committee substitute;                
                                                                           waives cl 5(a) of                    
                                                                           rule XXI against the                 
                                                                           committee substitute.                
H.R. 961.......................  Clean Water Act...  H. Res. 140          Open; pre-printing                N/A.
                                                                           gets preference;                     
                                                                           waives sections                      
                                                                           302(f) and 602(b) of                 
                                                                           the Budget Act                       
                                                                           against the bill's                   
                                                                           consideration; waives                
                                                                           cl 7 of rule XVI, cl                 
                                                                           5(a) of rule XXI and                 
                                                                           section 302(f) of the                
                                                                           Budget Act against                   
                                                                           the committee                        
                                                                           substitute. Makes in                 
                                                                           order Shuster                        
                                                                           substitute as first                  
                                                                           order of business.                   
H.R. 535.......................  Corning National    H. Res. 144          Open..................            N/A.
                                  Fish Hatchery                                                                 
                                  Conveyance Act.                                                               
H.R. 584.......................  Conveyance of the   H. Res. 145          Open..................            N/A.
                                  Fairport National                                                             
                                  Fish Hatchery to                                                              
                                  the State of Iowa.                                                            
H.R. 614.......................  Conveyance of the   H. Res. 146          Open..................            N/A.
                                  New London                                                                    
                                  National Fish                                                                 
                                  Hatchery                                                                      
                                  Production                                                                    
                                  Facility.                                                                     
H. Con. Res. 67................  Budget Resolution.  H. Res. 149          Restrictive; Makes in          3D; 1R.
                                                                           order 4 substitutes                  
                                                                           under regular order;                 
                                                                           Gephardt, Neumann/                   
                                                                           Solomon, Payne/Owens,                
                                                                           President's Budget if                
                                                                           printed in Record on                 
                                                                           5/17/95; waives all                  
                                                                           points of order                      
                                                                           against substitutes                  
                                                                           and concurrent                       
                                                                           resolution; suspends                 
                                                                           application of Rule                  
                                                                           XLIX with respect to                 
                                                                           the resolution; self-                
                                                                           executes Agriculture                 
                                                                           language.                            
H.R. 1561......................  American Overseas   H. Res. 155          Restrictive; Requires             N/A.
                                  Interests Act of                         amendments to be                     
                                  1995.                                    printed in the Record                
                                                                           prior to their                       
                                                                           consideration; 10 hr.                
                                                                           time cap; waives cl                  
                                                                           2(1)(6) of rule XI                   
                                                                           against the bill's                   
                                                                           consideration; Also                  
                                                                           waives sections                      
                                                                           302(f), 303(a),                      
                                                                           308(a) and 402(a)                    
                                                                           against the bill's                   
                                                                           consideration and the                
                                                                           committee amendment                  
                                                                           in order as original                 
                                                                           text; waives cl 5(a)                 
                                                                           of rule XXI against                  
                                                                           the amendment;                       
                                                                           amendment                            
                                                                           consideration is                     
                                                                           closed at 2:30 p.m.                  
                                                                           on May 25, 1995. Self-               
                                                                           executes provision                   
                                                                           which removes section                
                                                                           2210 from the bill.                  
                                                                           This was done at the                 
                                                                           request of the Budget                
                                                                           Committee.                           
H.R. 1530......................  National Defense    H. Res. 164          Restrictive; Makes in      36R; 18D; 2
                                  Authorization Act                        order only the            Bipartisan.
                                  FY 1996.                                 amendments printed in                
                                                                           the report; waives                   
                                                                           all points of order                  
                                                                           against the bill,                    
                                                                           substitute and                       
                                                                           amendments printed in                
                                                                           the report. Gives the                
                                                                           Chairman en bloc                     
                                                                           authority. Self-                     
                                                                           executes a provision                 
                                                                           which strikes section                
                                                                           807 of the bill;                     
                                                                           provides for an                      
                                                                           additional 30 min. of                
                                                                           debate on Nunn-Lugar                 
                                                                           section; Allows Mr.                  
                                                                           Clinger to offer a                   
                                                                           modification of his                  
                                                                           amendment with the                   
                                                                           concurrence of Ms.                   
                                                                           Collins.                             
H.R. 1817......................  Military            H. Res. 167          Open; waives cl. 2 and            N/A.
                                  Construction                             cl. 6 of rule XXI                    
                                  Appropriations;                          against the bill; 1                  
                                  FY 1996.                                 hr. general debate;                  
                                                                           Uses House passed                    
                                                                           budget numbers as                    
                                                                           threshold for                        
                                                                           spending amounts                     
                                                                           pending passage of                   
                                                                           Budget.                              
H.R. 1854......................  Legislative Branch  H. Res. 169          Restrictive; Makes in        5R; 4D; 2
                                  Appropriations.                          order only 11             Bipartisan.
                                                                           amendments; waives                   
                                                                           sections 302(f) and                  
                                                                           308(a) of the Budget                 
                                                                           Act against the bill                 
                                                                           and cl. 2 and cl. 6                  
                                                                           of rule XXI against                  
                                                                           the bill. All points                 
                                                                           of order are waived                  
                                                                           against the                          
                                                                           amendments.                          

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H.R. 1868......................  Foreign Operations  H. Res. 170          Open; waives cl. 2,               N/A.
                                  Appropriations.                          cl. 5(b), and cl. 6                  
                                                                           of rule XXI against                  
                                                                           the bill; makes in                   
                                                                           order the Gilman                     
                                                                           amendments as first                  
                                                                           order of business;                   
                                                                           waives all points of                 
                                                                           order against the                    
                                                                           amendments; if                       
                                                                           adopted they will be                 
                                                                           considered as                        
                                                                           original text; waives                
                                                                           cl. 2 of rule XXI                    
                                                                           against the                          
                                                                           amendments printed in                
                                                                           the report. Pre-                     
                                                                           printing gets                        
                                                                           priority (Hall)                      
                                                                           (Menendez) (Goss)                    
                                                                           (Smith, NJ).                         
H.R. 1905......................  Energy & Water      H. Res. 171          Open; waives cl. 2 and            N/A.
                                  Appropriations.                          cl. 6 of rule XXI                    
                                                                           against the bill;                    
                                                                           makes in order the                   
                                                                           Shuster amendment as                 
                                                                           the first order of                   
                                                                           business; waives all                 
                                                                           points of order                      
                                                                           against the                          
                                                                           amendment; if adopted                
                                                                           it will be considered                
                                                                           as original text. Pre-               
                                                                           printing gets                        
                                                                           priority.                            
H.J. Res. 79...................  Constitutional      H. Res. 173          Closed; provides one              N/A.
                                  Amendment to                             hour of general                      
                                  Permit Congress                          debate and one motion                
                                  and States to                            to recommit with or                  
                                  Prohibit the                             without instructions;                
                                  Physical                                 if there are                         
                                  Desecration of                           instructions, the MO                 
                                  the American Flag.                       is debatable for 1 hr.               
H.R. 1944......................  Recissions Bill...  H. Res. 175          Restrictive; Provides             N/A.
                                                                           for consideration of                 
                                                                           the bill in the                      
                                                                           House; Permits the                   
                                                                           Chairman of the                      
                                                                           Appropriations                       
                                                                           Committee to offer                   
                                                                           one amendment which                  
                                                                           is unamendable;                      
                                                                           waives all points of                 
                                                                           order against the                    
                                                                           amendment.                           
H.R. 1868 (2nd rule)...........  Foreign Operations  H. Res. 177          Restrictive; Provides             N/A.
                                  Appropriations.                          for further                          
                                                                           consideration of the                 
                                                                           bill; makes in order                 
                                                                           only the four                        
                                                                           amendments printed in                
                                                                           the rules report (20                 
                                                                           min. each). Waives                   
                                                                           all points of order                  
                                                                           against the                          
                                                                           amendments; Prohibits                
                                                                           intervening motions                  
                                                                           in the Committee of                  
                                                                           the Whole; Provides                  
                                                                           for an automatic rise                
                                                                           and report following                 
                                                                           the disposition of                   
                                                                           the amendments.                      
H.R. 1977 *Rule Defeated*......  Interior            H. Res. 185          Open; waives sections             N/A.
                                  Appropriations.                          302(f) and 308(a) of                 
                                                                           the Budget Act and cl                
                                                                           2 and cl 6 of rule                   
                                                                           XXI; provides that                   
                                                                           the bill be read by                  
                                                                           title; waives all                    
                                                                           points of order                      
                                                                           against the Tauzin                   
                                                                           amendment; self-                     
                                                                           executes Budget                      
                                                                           Committee amendment;                 
                                                                           waives cl 2(e) of                    
                                                                           rule XXI against                     
                                                                           amendments to the                    
                                                                           bill; Pre-printing                   
                                                                           gets priority.                       
H.R. 1977......................  Interior            H.Res. 187           Open; waives sections             N/A.
                                  Appropriations.                          302(f), 306 and                      
                                                                           308(a) of the Budget                 
                                                                           Act; waives clauses 2                
                                                                           and 6 of rule XXI                    
                                                                           against provisions in                
                                                                           the bill; waives all                 
                                                                           points of order                      
                                                                           against the Tauzin                   
                                                                           amendment; provides                  
                                                                           that the bill be read                
                                                                           by title; self-                      
                                                                           executes Budget                      
                                                                           Committee amendment                  
                                                                           and makes NEA funding                
                                                                           subject to House                     
                                                                           passed authorization;                
                                                                           waives cl 2(e) of                    
                                                                           rule XXI against the                 
                                                                           amendments to the                    
                                                                           bill; Pre-printing                   
                                                                           gets priority.                       
H.R. 1976......................  Agriculture         H. Res. 188          Open; waives clauses 2            N/A.
                                  Appropriations.                          and 6 of rule XXI                    
                                                                           against provisions in                
                                                                           the bill; provides                   
                                                                           that the bill be read                
                                                                           by title; Makes Skeen                
                                                                           amendment first order                
                                                                           of business, if                      
                                                                           adopted the amendment                
                                                                           will be considered as                
                                                                           base text (10 min.);                 
                                                                           Pre-printing gets                    
                                                                           priority.                            
H.R. 1977 (3rd rule)...........  Interior            H. Res. 189          Restrictive; provides             N/A.
                                  Appropriations.                          for the further                      
                                                                           consideration of the                 
                                                                           bill; allows only                    
                                                                           amendments pre-                      
                                                                           printed before July                  
                                                                           14th to be                           
                                                                           considered; limits                   
                                                                           motions to rise.                     
H.R. 2020......................  Treasury Postal     H. Res. 190          Open; waives cl. 2 and            N/A.
                                  Appropriations.                          cl. 6 of rule XXI                    
                                                                           against provisions in                
                                                                           the bill; provides                   
                                                                           the bill be read by                  
                                                                           title; Pre-printing                  
                                                                           gets priority.                       
H.J. Res. 96...................  Disapproving MFN    H. Res. 193          Restrictive; provides             N/A.
                                  for China.                               for consideration in                 
                                                                           the House of H.R.                    
                                                                           2058 (90 min.) And                   
                                                                           H.J. Res. 96 (1 hr).                 
                                                                           Waives certain                       
                                                                           provisions of the                    
                                                                           Trade Act.                           
H.R. 2002......................  Transportation      H. Res. 194          Open; waives cl. 3 0f             N/A.
                                  Appropriations.                          rule XIII and section                
                                                                           401 (a) of the CBA                   
                                                                           against consideration                
                                                                           of the bill; waives                  
                                                                           cl. 6 and cl. 2 of                   
                                                                           rule XXI against                     
                                                                           provisions in the                    
                                                                           bill; Makes in order                 
                                                                           the Clinger/Solomon                  
                                                                           amendment waives all                 
                                                                           points of order                      
                                                                           against the amendment                
                                                                           (Line Item Veto);                    
                                                                           provides the bill be                 
                                                                           read by title; Pre-                  
                                                                           printing gets                        
                                                                           priority. *RULE                      
                                                                           AMENDED*.                            
H.R. 70........................  Exports of Alaskan  H. Res. 197          Open; Makes in order              N/A.
                                  North Slope Oil.                         the Resources                        
                                                                           Committee amendment                  
                                                                           in the nature of a                   
                                                                           substitute as                        
                                                                           original text; Pre-                  
                                                                           printing gets                        
                                                                           priority; Provides a                 
                                                                           Senate hook-up with                  
                                                                           S. 395.                              
H.R. 2076......................  Commerce, Justice   H. Res. 198          Open; waives cl. 2 and            N/A.
                                  Appropriations.                          cl. 6 of rule XXI                    
                                                                           against provisions in                
                                                                           the bill; Pre-                       
                                                                           printing gets                        
                                                                           priority; provides                   
                                                                           the bill be read by                  
                                                                           title.                               
H.R. 2099......................  VA/HUD              H. Res. 201          Open; waives cl. 2 and            N/A.
                                  Appropriations.                          cl. 6 of rule XXI                    
                                                                           against provisions in                
                                                                           the bill; Provides                   
                                                                           that the amendment in                
                                                                           part 1 of the report                 
                                                                           is the first                         
                                                                           business, if adopted                 
                                                                           it will be considered                
                                                                           as base text (30                     
                                                                           min.); waives all                    
                                                                           points of order                      
                                                                           against the Klug and                 
                                                                           Davis amendments; Pre-               
                                                                           printing gets                        
                                                                           priority; Provides                   
                                                                           that the bill be read                
                                                                           by title.                            
S. 21..........................  Termination of      H. Res. 204          Restrictive; 3 hours               ID.
                                  U.S. Arms Embargo                        of general debate;                   
                                  on Bosnia.                               Makes in order an                    
                                                                           amendment to be                      
                                                                           offered by the                       
                                                                           Minority Leader or a                 
                                                                           designee (1 hr); If                  
                                                                           motion to recommit                   
                                                                           has instructions it                  
                                                                           can only be offered                  
                                                                           by the Minority                      
                                                                           Leader or a designee.                
H.R. 2126......................  Defense             H. Res. 205          Open; waives cl.                  N/A.
                                  Appropriations.                          2(l)(6) of rule XI                   
                                                                           and section 306 of                   
                                                                           the Congressional                    
                                                                           Budget Act against                   
                                                                           consideration of the                 
                                                                           bill; waives cl. 2                   
                                                                           and cl. 6 of rule XXI                
                                                                           against provisions in                
                                                                           the bill; self-                      
                                                                           executes a strike of                 
                                                                           sections 8021 and                    
                                                                           8024 of the bill as                  
                                                                           requested by the                     
                                                                           Budget Committee; Pre-               
                                                                           printing gets                        
                                                                           priority; Provides                   
                                                                           the bill be read by                  
                                                                           title.                               
H.R. 1555......................  Communications Act  H. Res. 207          Restrictive; waives        2R/3D/3 Bi-
                                  of 1995.                                 sec. 302(f) of the          partisan.
                                                                           Budget Act against                   
                                                                           consideration of the                 
                                                                           bill; Makes in order                 
                                                                           the Commerce                         
                                                                           Committee amendment                  
                                                                           as original text and                 
                                                                           waives sec. 302(f) of                
                                                                           the Budget Act and                   
                                                                           cl. 5(a) of rule XXI                 
                                                                           against the                          
                                                                           amendment; Makes in                  
                                                                           order the Bliely                     
                                                                           amendment (30 min.)                  
                                                                           as the first order of                
                                                                           business, if adopted                 
                                                                           it will be original                  
                                                                           text; makes in order                 
                                                                           only the amendments                  
                                                                           printed in the report                
                                                                           and waives all points                
                                                                           of order against the                 
                                                                           amendments; provides                 
                                                                           a Senate hook-up with                
                                                                           S. 652.                              
H.R. 2127......................  Labor/HHS           H. Res. 208          Open; Provides that               N/A.
                                  Appropriations                           the first order of                   
                                  Act.                                     business will be the                 
                                                                           managers amendments                  
                                                                           (10 min.), if adopted                
                                                                           they will be                         
                                                                           considered as base                   
                                                                           text; waives cl. 2                   
                                                                           and cl. 6 of rule XXI                
                                                                           against provisions in                
                                                                           the bill; waives all                 
                                                                           points of order                      
                                                                           against certain                      
                                                                           amendments printed in                
                                                                           the report; Pre-                     
                                                                           printing gets                        
                                                                           priority; Provides                   
                                                                           the bill be read by                  
                                                                           title.                               
H.R. 1594......................  Economically        H. Res. 215          Open; 2 hr of gen.                N/A.
                                  Targeted                                 debate. makes in                     
                                  Investments.                             order the committee                  
                                                                           substitute as                        
                                                                           original text.                       
H.R. 1655......................  Intelligence        H. Res. 216          Restrictive; waives               N/A.
                                  Authorization.                           sections 302(f),                     
                                                                           308(a) and 401(b) of                 
                                                                           the Budget Act. Makes                
                                                                           in order the                         
                                                                           committee substitute                 
                                                                           as modified by Govt.                 
                                                                           Reform amend                         
                                                                           (striking sec. 505)                  
                                                                           and an amendment                     
                                                                           striking title VII.                  
                                                                           Cl 7 of rule XVI and                 
                                                                           cl 5(a) of rule XXI                  
                                                                           are waived against                   
                                                                           the substitute.                      
                                                                           Sections 302(f) and                  
                                                                           401(b) of the CBA are                
                                                                           also waived against                  
                                                                           the substitute.                      
                                                                           Amendments must also                 
                                                                           be pre-printed in the                
                                                                           Congressional record.                
H.R. 1162......................  Deficit Reduction   H. Res. 218          Open; waives cl 7 of              N/A.
                                  Lock Box.                                rule XVI against the                 
                                                                           committee substitute                 
                                                                           made in order as                     
                                                                           original text; Pre-                  
                                                                           printing gets                        
                                                                           priority.                            
H.R. 1670......................  Federal             H. Res. 219          Open; waives sections             N/A.
                                  Acquisition                              302(f) and 308(a) of                 
                                  Reform Act of                            the Budget Act                       
                                  1995.                                    against consideration                
                                                                           of the bill; bill                    
                                                                           will be read by                      
                                                                           title; waives cl 5(a)                
                                                                           of rule XXI and                      
                                                                           section 302(f) of the                
                                                                           Budget Act against                   
                                                                           the committee                        
                                                                           substitute. Pre-                     
                                                                           printing gets                        
                                                                           priority.                            
H.R. 1617......................  To Consolidate and  H. Res. 222          Open; waives section              N/A.
                                  Reform Workforce                         302(f) and 401(b) of                 
                                  Development and                          the Budget Act                       
                                  Literacy Programs                        against the                          
                                  Act (CAREERS).                           substitute made in                   
                                                                           order as original                    
                                                                           text (H.R. 2332), cl.                
                                                                           5(a) of rule XXI is                  
                                                                           also waived against                  
                                                                           the substitute.                      
                                                                           provides for                         
                                                                           consideration of the                 
                                                                           managers amendment                   
                                                                           (10 min.) If adopted,                
                                                                           it is considered as                  
                                                                           base text.                           
H.R. 2274......................  National Highway    H. Res. 224          Open; waives section              N/A.
                                  System                                   302(f) of the Budget                 
                                  Designation Act                          Act against                          
                                  of 1995.                                 consideration of the                 
                                                                           bill; Makes H.R. 2349                
                                                                           in order as original                 
                                                                           text; waives section                 
                                                                           302(f) of the Budget                 
                                                                           Act against the                      
                                                                           substitute; provides                 
                                                                           for the consideration                
                                                                           of a managers                        
                                                                           amendment (10 min.)                  
                                                                           If adopted, it is                    
                                                                           considered as base                   
                                                                           text; Pre-printing                   
                                                                           gets priority.                       
H.R. 927.......................  Cuban Liberty and   H. Res. 225          Restrictive; waives cl           2R/2D
                                  Democratic                               2(L)(2)(B) of rule XI                
                                  Solidarity Act of                        against consideration                
                                  1995.                                    of the bill; makes in                
                                                                           order H.R. 2347 as                   
                                                                           base text; waives cl                 
                                                                           7 of rule XVI against                
                                                                           the substitute; Makes                
                                                                           Hamilton amendment                   
                                                                           the first amendment                  
                                                                           to be considered (1                  
                                                                           hr). Makes in order                  
                                                                           only amendments                      
                                                                           printed in the report.               
H.R. 743.......................  The Teamwork for    H. Res. 226          Open; waives cl                   N/A.
                                  Employees and                            2(l)(2)(b) of rule XI                
                                  managers Act of                          against consideration                
                                  1995.                                    of the bill; makes in                
                                                                           order the committee                  
                                                                           amendment as original                
                                                                           text; Pre-printing                   
                                                                           get priority.                        
H.R. 1170......................  3-Judge Court for   H. Res. 227          Open; makes in order a            N/A.
                                  Certain                                  committee amendment                  
                                  Injunctions.                             as original text; Pre-               
                                                                           printing gets                        
                                                                           priority.                            
H.R. 1601......................  International       H. Res. 228          Open; makes in order a            N/A.
                                  Space Station                            committee amendment                  
                                  Authorization Act                        as original text; pre-               
                                  of 1995.                                 printing gets                        
                                                                           priority.                            
H.J. Res. 108..................  Making Continuing   H. Res. 230          Closed; Provides for    ..............
                                  Appropriations                           the immediate                        
                                  for FY 1996.                             consideration of the                 
                                                                           CR; one motion to                    
                                                                           recommit which may                   
                                                                           have instructions                    
                                                                           only if offered by                   
                                                                           the Minority Leader                  
                                                                           or a designee.                       
H.R. 2405......................  Omnibus Civilian    H. Res. 234          Open; self-executes a             N/A.
                                  Science                                  provision striking                   
                                  Authorization Act                        section 304(b)(3) of                 
                                  of 1995.                                 the bill (Commerce                   
                                                                           Committee request);                  
                                                                           Pre-printing gets                    
                                                                           priority.                            
H.R. 2259......................  To Disapprove       H. Res. 237          Restrictive; waives cl              1D
                                  Certain                                  2(l)(2)(B) of rule XI                
                                  Sentencing                               against the bill's                   
                                  Guideline                                consideration; makes                 
                                  Amendments.                              in order the text of                 
                                                                           the Senate bill S.                   
                                                                           1254 as original                     
                                                                           text; Makes in order                 
                                                                           only a Conyers                       
                                                                           substitute; provides                 
                                                                           a senate hook-up                     
                                                                           after adoption.                      
H.R. 2425......................  Medicare            H. Res. 238          Restrictive; waives                 1D
                                  Preservation Act.                        all points of order                  
                                                                           against the bill's                   
                                                                           consideration; makes                 
                                                                           in order the text of                 
                                                                           H.R. 2485 as original                
                                                                           text; waives all                     
                                                                           points of order                      
                                                                           against H.R. 2485;                   
                                                                           makes in order only                  
                                                                           an amendment offered                 
                                                                           by the Minority                      
                                                                           Leader or a designee;                
                                                                           waives all points of                 
                                                                           order against the                    
                                                                           amendment; waives cl                 
                                                                           5 of rule                 
                                                                           XXI (\3/5\                           
                                                                           requirement on votes                 
                                                                           raising taxes).                      
H.R. 2492......................  Legislative Branch  H. Res. 239          Restrictive; provides             N/A.
                                  Appropriations                           for consideration of                 
                                  Bill.                                    the bill in the House.               
H.R. 2491......................  7 Year Balanced     H. Res. 245          Restrictive; makes in               1D
H. Con. Res. 109...............   Budget                                   order H.R. 2517 as                   
                                  Reconciliation                           original text; waives                
                                  Social Security                          all pints of order                   
                                  Earnings Test                            against the bill;                    
                                  Reform.                                  Makes in order only                  
                                                                           H.R. 2530 as an                      
                                                                           amendment only if                    
                                                                           offered by the                       
                                                                           Minority Leader or a                 
                                                                           designee; waives all                 
                                                                           points of order                      
                                                                           against the                          
                                                                           amendment; waives cl                 
                                                                           5 of rule                 
                                                                           XXI (\3/5\                           
                                                                           requirement on votes                 
                                                                           raising taxes).                      
H.R. 1833......................  Partial Birth       H. Res. 251          Closed................            N/A.
                                  Abortion Ban Act                                                              
                                  of 1995.                                                                      

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H.R. 2546......................  D.C.                H. Res. 252          Restrictive; waives               N/A.
                                  Appropriations FY                        all points of order                  
                                  1996.                                    against the bill's                   
                                                                           consideration; Makes                 
                                                                           in order the Walsh                   
                                                                           amendment as the                     
                                                                           first order of                       
                                                                           business (10 min.);                  
                                                                           if adopted it is                     
                                                                           considered as base                   
                                                                           text; waives cl 2 and                
                                                                           6 of rule XXI against                
                                                                           the bill; makes in                   
                                                                           order the Bonilla,                   
                                                                           Gunderson and                        
                                                                           Hostettler amendments                
                                                                           (30 min.); waives all                
                                                                           points of order                      
                                                                           against the                          
                                                                           amendments; debate on                
                                                                           any further                          
                                                                           amendments is limited                
                                                                           to 30 min. each.                     
H.J. Res. 115..................  Further Continuing  H. Res. 257          Closed; Provides for              N/A.
                                  Appropriations                           the immediate                        
                                  for FY 1996.                             consideration of the                 
                                                                           CR; one motion to                    
                                                                           recommit which may                   
                                                                           have instructions                    
                                                                           only if offered by                   
                                                                           the Minority Leader                  
                                                                           or a designee.                       
H.R. 2586......................  Temporary Increase  H. Res. 258          Restrictive; Provides               5R
                                  in the Statutory                         for the immediate                    
                                  Debt Limit.                              consideration of the                 
                                                                           CR; one motion to                    
                                                                           recommit which may                   
                                                                           have instructions                    
                                                                           only if offered by                   
                                                                           the Minority Leader                  
                                                                           or a designee; self-                 
                                                                           executes 4 amendments                
                                                                           in the rule; Solomon,                
                                                                           Medicare Coverage of                 
                                                                           Certain Anti-Cancer                  
                                                                           Drug Treatments,                     
                                                                           Habeas Corpus Reform,                
                                                                           Chrysler (MI); makes                 
                                                                           in order the Walker                  
                                                                           amend (40 min.) on                   
                                                                           regulatory reform.                   
H.R. 2539......................  ICC Termination...  H. Res. 259          Open; waives section    ..............
                                                                           302(f) and section                   
                                                                           308(a).                              
H.J. Res. 115..................  Further Continuing  H. Res. 261          Closed; provides for              N/A.
                                  Appropriations                           the immediate                        
                                  for FY 1996.                             consideration of a                   
                                                                           motion by the                        
                                                                           Majority Leader or                   
                                                                           his designees to                     
                                                                           dispose of the Senate                
                                                                           amendments (1 hr).                   
H.R. 2586......................  Temporary Increase  H. Res. 262          Closed; provides for              N/A.
                                  in the Statutory                         the immediate                        
                                  Limit on the                             consideration of a                   
                                  Public Debt.                             motion by the                        
                                                                           Majority Leader or                   
                                                                           his designees to                     
                                                                           dispose of the Senate                
                                                                           amendments (1 hr).                   
H. Res. 250....................  House Gift Rule     H. Res. 268          Closed; provides for                2R
                                  Reform.                                  consideration of the                 
                                                                           bill in the House; 30                
                                                                           min. of debate; makes                
                                                                           in order the Burton                  
                                                                           amendment and the                    
                                                                           Gingrich en bloc                     
                                                                           amendment (30 min.                   
                                                                           each); waives all                    
                                                                           points of order                      
                                                                           against the                          
                                                                           amendments; Gingrich                 
                                                                           is only in order if                  
                                                                           Burton fails or is                   
                                                                           not offered.                         
H.R. 2564......................  Lobbying            H. Res. 269          Open; waives cl.                  N/A.
                                  Disclosure Act of                        2(l)(6) of rule XI                   
                                  1995.                                    against the bill's                   
                                                                           consideration; waives                
                                                                           all points of order                  
                                                                           against the Istook                   
                                                                           and McIntosh                         
                                                                           amendments.                          
H.R. 2606......................  Prohibition on      H. Res. 273          Restrictive; waives               N/A.
                                  Funds for Bosnia                         all points of order                  
                                  Deployment.                              against the bill's                   
                                                                           consideration;                       
                                                                           provides one motion                  
                                                                           to amend if offered                  
                                                                           by the Minority                      
                                                                           Leader or designee (1                
                                                                           hr non-amendable);                   
                                                                           motion to recommit                   
                                                                           which may have                       
                                                                           instructions only if                 
                                                                           offered by Minority                  
                                                                           Leader or his                        
                                                                           designee; if Minority                
                                                                           Leader motion is not                 
                                                                           offered debate time                  
                                                                           will be extended by 1                
                                                                           hr.                                  
H.R. 1788......................  Amtrak Reform and   H. Res. 289          Open; waives all                  N/A.
                                  Privatization Act                        points of order                      
                                  of 1995.                                 against the bill's                   
                                                                           consideration; makes                 
                                                                           in order the                         
                                                                           Transportation                       
                                                                           substitute modified                  
                                                                           by the amend in the                  
                                                                           report; Bill read by                 
                                                                           title; waives all                    
                                                                           points of order                      
                                                                           against the                          
                                                                           substitute; makes in                 
                                                                           order a managers                     
                                                                           amend as the first                   
                                                                           order of business, if                
                                                                           adopted it is                        
                                                                           considered base text                 
                                                                           (10 min.); waives all                
                                                                           points of order                      
                                                                           against the                          
                                                                           amendment; Pre-                      
                                                                           printing gets                        
                                                                           priority.                            
H.R. 1350......................  Maritime Security   H. Res. 287          Open; makes in order              N/A.
                                  Act of 1995.                             the committee                        
                                                                           substitute as                        
                                                                           original text; makes                 
                                                                           in order a managers                  
                                                                           amendment which if                   
                                                                           adopted is considered                
                                                                           as original text (20                 
                                                                           min.) unamendable;                   
                                                                           pre-printing gets                    
                                                                           priority.                            
H.R. 2621......................  To Protect Federal  H. Res. 293          Closed; provides for              N/A.
                                  Trust Funds.                             the adoption of the                  
                                                                           Ways & Means                         
                                                                           amendment printed in                 
                                                                           the report. 1 hr of                  
                                                                           general debate.                      
H.R. 1745......................  Utah Public Lands   H. Res. 303          Open; waives cl                   N/A.
                                  Management Act of                        2(l)(6) of rule XI                   
                                  1995.                                    and sections 302(f)                  
                                                                           and 311(a) of the                    
                                                                           Budget Act against                   
                                                                           the bill's                           
                                                                           consideration. Makes                 
                                                                           in order the                         
                                                                           Resources substitute                 
                                                                           as base text and                     
                                                                           waives cl 7 of rule                  
                                                                           XVI and sections                     
                                                                           302(f) and 308(a) of                 
                                                                           the Budget Act; makes                
                                                                           in order a managers'                 
                                                                           amend as the first                   
                                                                           order of business, if                
                                                                           adopted it is                        
                                                                           considered base text                 
                                                                           (10 min).                            
H. Res. 304....................  Providing for       N/A                  Closed; makes in order          1D; 2R
                                  Debate and                               three resolutions;                   
                                  Consideration of                         H.R. 2770 (Dornan),                  
                                  Three Measures                           H. Res. 302 (Buyer),                 
                                  Relating to U.S.                         and H. Res. 306                      
                                  Troop Deployments                        (Gephardt); 1 hour of                
                                  in Bosnia.                               debate on each.                      
H. Res. 309....................  Revised Budget      H. Res. 309          Closed; provides 2                N/A.
                                  Resolution.                              hours of general                     
                                                                           debate in the House.                 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
*Contract Bills, 67% restrictive; 33% open. **All legislation, 56% restrictive; 44% open. ***Restrictive rules  
  are those which limit the number of amendments which can be offered, and include so called modified open and  
  modified closed rules as well as completely closed rules and rules providing for consideration in the House as
  opposed to the Committee of the Whole. This definition of restrictive rule is taken from the Republican chart 
  of resolutions reported from the Rules Committee in the 103rd Congress. ****Not included in this chart are    
  three bills which should have been placed on the Suspension Calendar. H.R. 101, H.R. 400, H.R. 440.           


  Mr. MOAKLEY. Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to vote against the 
previous question so that we may bring an alternative rule to the 
floor. The rule would make in order the coalition budget proposal under 
an open rule as well as any other substitute budget that Members may 
wish to offer.
  Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.
  Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself the balance of my time.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from New York is recognized 
for 1 minute and 15 seconds.

                              {time}  1345

  Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself the balance of my time.
  Why are we here today with the President's budget? Let me just read a 
quote from today's newspaper.

       White House press secretary Mike McCurry said Republicans 
     would have to drop their insistence that we produce a 7-year 
     balanced budget.

  Ladies and gentlemen, that is why we are here. I just heard Members 
complain that the Washington Monument is closed today because the 
President vetoed a bill saying that we did not spend enough on it. He 
vetoed a bill yesterday that said we do not spend enough money on EPA.
  How are we going to balance the budget? Look at this. Last year he 
gave us a 5-year projection of his spending budgets totaling another 
$900 billion added to the deficit. This year he gave us one adding 
almost a trillion dollars. Ladies and gentlemen, this is the most 
serious problem facing this country today. That is why we have already 
had the minority's coalition budget on the floor, we have already had 
the Republican majority budget on the floor, and now we want the 
President's. Let us have a vote on it, up or down.
  Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time, and I move the 
previous question.
  The previous question was ordered.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Bunn of Oregon). The question is on 
ordering the previous question.
  The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that 
the ayes appeared to have it.
  Mr. MOAKLEY. Mr. Speaker, I object to the vote on the ground a quorum 
is not present and make the point of order a quorum is not present.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Evidently, a quorum is not present.
  The Sergeant at Arms will notify absent Members.
  Pursuant to provisions of clause 5, rule XV, the Chair announces he 
will reduce to a minimum of 5 minutes the period of time within which a 
vote by electronic device, if ordered, will be taken on the question of 
the passage of the resolution.
  The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--yeas 230, 
nays 188, not voting 15, as follows:

                             [Roll No. 867]

                               YEAS--230

     Allard
     Archer
     Armey
     Bachus
     Baker (CA)
     Baker (LA)
     Ballenger
     Barr
     Barrett (NE)
     Bartlett
     Barton
     Bass
     Bateman
     Bereuter
     Bilbray
     Bilirakis
     Bliley
     Blute
     Boehlert
     Boehner
     Bonilla
     Bono
     Brownback
     Bryant (TN)
     Bunn
     Bunning
     Burr
     Burton
     Buyer
     Callahan
     Calvert
     Camp
     Campbell
     Canady
     Castle
     Chabot
     Chambliss
     Chenoweth
     Christensen
     Chrysler
     Coble
     Coburn
     Collins (GA)
     Combest
     Cooley
     Cox
     Crane
     Crapo
     Cremeans
     Cubin
     Cunningham
     Davis
     Deal
     DeLay
     Diaz-Balart
     Dickey
     Doolittle
     Dornan
     Dreier
     Duncan
     Dunn
     Ehlers
     Ehrlich
     Emerson
     English
     Ensign
     Everett
     Ewing
     Fawell
     Fields (TX)
     Flanagan
     Foley
     Forbes
     Fowler
     Fox
     Franks (CT)
     Franks (NJ)
     Frelinghuysen
     Frisa
     Funderburk
     Gallegly
     Ganske
     Gekas
     Gilchrest
     Gillmor
     Gilman
     Goodlatte
     Goodling
     Goss
     Graham
     Greenwood
     Gunderson
     Gutknecht
     Hancock
     Hansen
     Hastert
     Hastings (WA)
     Hayes
     Hayworth
     Hefley
     Heineman
     Herger
     Hilleary
     Hobson
     Hoekstra
     Hoke
     Horn
     Hostettler
     Houghton
     Hunter
     Hutchinson
     Hyde
     Inglis
     Istook
     Johnson (CT)
     Johnson, Sam
     Jones
     Kasich
     Kelly
     Kim
     King
     Kingston
     Klug
     Knollenberg
     Kolbe
     LaHood
     Largent
     Latham
     LaTourette
     Laughlin
     Lazio
     Leach
     Lewis (CA)
     Lewis (KY)
     Lightfoot
     Linder
     Livingston
     LoBiondo
     Longley
     Lucas
     Manzullo
     Martini
     McCollum
     McCrery
     
[[Page H15129]]

     McDade
     McHugh
     McInnis
     McIntosh
     McKeon
     Metcalf
     Meyers
     Mica
     Miller (FL)
     Molinari
     Moorhead
     Morella
     Myers
     Myrick
     Nethercutt
     Neumann
     Ney
     Norwood
     Nussle
     Oxley
     Packard
     Parker
     Paxon
     Petri
     Pombo
     Porter
     Portman
     Quillen
     Quinn
     Radanovich
     Ramstad
     Regula
     Riggs
     Roberts
     Rogers
     Rohrabacher
     Roth
     Roukema
     Royce
     Salmon
     Sanford
     Saxton
     Schaefer
     Schiff
     Seastrand
     Sensenbrenner
     Shadegg
     Shaw
     Shays
     Shuster
     Skeen
     Smith (MI)
     Smith (NJ)
     Smith (TX)
     Smith (WA)
     Solomon
     Souder
     Spence
     Stearns
     Stockman
     Stump
     Talent
     Tate
     Tauzin
     Taylor (NC)
     Thomas
     Thornberry
     Tiahrt
     Torkildsen
     Upton
     Vucanovich
     Waldholtz
     Walker
     Walsh
     Wamp
     Watts (OK)
     Weldon (FL)
     Weldon (PA)
     Weller
     White
     Whitfield
     Wicker
     Wolf
     Young (FL)
     Zeliff
     Zimmer

                               NAYS--188

     Abercrombie
     Ackerman
     Andrews
     Baesler
     Baldacci
     Barcia
     Barrett (WI)
     Becerra
     Beilenson
     Bentsen
     Bevill
     Bishop
     Bonior
     Borski
     Boucher
     Brewster
     Browder
     Brown (CA)
     Brown (FL)
     Brown (OH)
     Bryant (TX)
     Cardin
     Clay
     Clayton
     Clement
     Clyburn
     Coleman
     Collins (IL)
     Collins (MI)
     Condit
     Conyers
     Costello
     Coyne
     Cramer
     Danner
     DeFazio
     DeLauro
     Dellums
     Deutsch
     Dicks
     Dingell
     Dixon
     Doggett
     Dooley
     Doyle
     Durbin
     Engel
     Eshoo
     Evans
     Farr
     Fattah
     Fazio
     Fields (LA)
     Filner
     Flake
     Foglietta
     Ford
     Frank (MA)
     Frost
     Furse
     Gejdenson
     Gephardt
     Geren
     Gibbons
     Gonzalez
     Gordon
     Green
     Gutierrez
     Hall (OH)
     Hall (TX)
     Hamilton
     Harman
     Hastings (FL)
     Hefner
     Hilliard
     Hinchey
     Holden
     Hoyer
     Jackson (IL)
     Jackson-Lee (TX)
     Jacobs
     Jefferson
     Johnson (SD)
     Johnson, E. B.
     Johnston
     Kanjorski
     Kennedy (MA)
     Kennedy (RI)
     Kennelly
     Kildee
     Kleczka
     Klink
     LaFalce
     Levin
     Lewis (GA)
     Lincoln
     Lipinski
     Lofgren
     Lowey
     Luther
     Maloney
     Manton
     Markey
     Martinez
     Mascara
     Matsui
     McCarthy
     McDermott
     McHale
     McKinney
     McNulty
     Meehan
     Meek
     Menendez
     Miller (CA)
     Minge
     Mink
     Moakley
     Mollohan
     Montgomery
     Moran
     Murtha
     Nadler
     Neal
     Oberstar
     Obey
     Olver
     Ortiz
     Orton
     Owens
     Pallone
     Pastor
     Payne (NJ)
     Payne (VA)
     Pelosi
     Peterson (FL)
     Peterson (MN)
     Pickett
     Pomeroy
     Poshard
     Rahall
     Rangel
     Reed
     Richardson
     Rivers
     Roemer
     Rose
     Roybal-Allard
     Sabo
     Sanders
     Sawyer
     Schroeder
     Schumer
     Scott
     Serrano
     Sisisky
     Skaggs
     Skelton
     Slaughter
     Spratt
     Stark
     Stenholm
     Stokes
     Studds
     Stupak
     Tanner
     Taylor (MS)
     Thompson
     Thornton
     Thurman
     Torres
     Torricelli
     Towns
     Traficant
     Velazquez
     Vento
     Visclosky
     Volkmer
     Ward
     Waters
     Watt (NC)
     Williams
     Wilson
     Wise
     Woolsey
     Wyden
     Wynn
     Yates

                             NOT VOTING--15

     Berman
     Chapman
     Clinger
     de la Garza
     Edwards
     Kaptur
     Lantos
     Mfume
     Pryce
     Ros-Lehtinen
     Rush
     Scarborough
     Tejeda
     Waxman
     Young (AK)

                              {time}  1405

  Mr. SERRANO changed his vote from ``yea'' to ``nay.''
  Mr. HAYES and Mr. LEWIS of California changed their votes from 
``nay'' to ``yea.''
  So the previous question was ordered.
  The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Bunn of Oregon). The question is the 
resolution.
  The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that 
the ayes appeared to have it.


                             recorded vote

  Mr. MOAKLEY. Mr. Speaker, I demand a recorded vote.
  A recorded vote was ordered.
  The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 229, 
noes 189, not voting 15, as follows:

                             [Roll No. 868]

                               AYES--229

     Allard
     Archer
     Armey
     Bachus
     Baker (CA)
     Baker (LA)
     Ballenger
     Barr
     Barrett (NE)
     Bartlett
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                             NOT VOTING--15

     Berman
     Chapman
     Clinger
     Davis
     de la Garza
     Edwards
     Kaptur
     Lantos
     Mfume
     Pryce
     Ros-Lehtinen
     Rush
     Scarborough
     Tejeda
     Young (AK)

                              {time}  1416

  The Clerk announced the following pair:
  On this vote:

       Ms. Ros-Lehtinen for, with Mr. Edwards against.

  Mr. WALSH and Mr. EWING changed their vote from ``no'' to ``aye.''
  So the resolution was agreed to.
  
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  The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
  A motion to reconsider was laid on the table.

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