[Congressional Record Volume 141, Number 200 (Friday, December 15, 1995)]
[House]
[Page H14935]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]




                ''FIGURES DON'T LIE, BUT LIARS FIGURE''

  (Mr. HEFNER asked and was given permission to address the House for 1 
minute and to revise and extend his remarks.)
  Mr. HEFNER. Mr. Speaker, I was hoping that my good friend, the 
gentleman from Ohio [Mr. Kasich], the chairman of the Committee on the 
Budget, would be here and all the people that have spoken that there is 
not a cut in Medicare and Medicaid.
  I am a senior citizen. There are cuts in Medicare and Medicaid.
  If there are not cuts in Medicare and Medicaid, why can we not have 
the tax cut unless they get the Medicare-Medicaid cuts? Unless we score 
the $270 million cuts in Medicare and Medicaid, we cannot have a $245 
billion tax cut. It does not take a space scientist to figure that out.
  There is an old saying in North Carolina, ``figures don't lie, but 
liars figure.''

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