[Congressional Record Volume 141, Number 188 (Tuesday, November 28, 1995)]
[House]
[Pages H13682-H13690]
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                    LOBBYING DISCLOSURE ACT OF 1995

  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to House Resolution 269 and rule 
XXIII, the Chair declares the House in the Committee of the Whole House 
on the State of the Union for the further consideration of the bill, 
H.R. 2564.

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                     in the committee of the whole

  Accordingly the House resolved itself into the Committee of the Whole 
House on the State of the Union for the further consideration of the 
bill (H.R. 2564) to provide for the disclosure of lobbying activities 
to influence the Federal Government, and for other purposes, with Mr. 
Kolbe in the chair.
  The Clerk read the title of the bill.
  The CHAIRMAN. When the Committee of the Whole rose on Thursday, 
November 16, 1995, the amendment offered by the gentleman from Illinois 
[Mr. Weller] had failed by voice vote and a request for a recorded vote 
had been postponed.
  Pursuant to the order of the House of today, there will be a period 
of further debate on the following amendments on which further 
proceedings were postponed on Thursday, November 16, 1995:
  No. 1, the amendment by the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. Fox].
  Second, the amendment by the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. 
Clinger.]
  Third, the amendment by the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. 
English].
  Fourth, the amendment by the gentleman from Illinois [Mr. Weller].
  Further debate on each amendment will be limited to 5 minutes equally 
divided and controlled by the proponent and the gentleman from Florida 
[Mr. Canady]. Such further debate shall occur at the point of the 
debate.


              amendment offered by mr. fox of pennsylvania

  The CHAIRMAN. It is now in order to debate the subject matter of the 
amendment offered by the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. Fox].
  The gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. Fox] will be recognized for 2 
\1/2\ minutes, and the gentleman from Florida [Mr. Canady] will be 
recognized for 2 \1/2\ minutes.
  The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. Fox].
  Mr. FOX of Pennsylvania. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I 
may consume.
  My colleagues, we have a very important mission tonight to look at 
some important amendments. I regard the first rule of safety in any 
matter as self-defense, and my amendment provides that security in a 
bipartisan fashion.
  We passed a rule not long ago which requires that we not take gifts 
from lobbyists. My amendment makes sure lobbyists do not give us gifts 
so that we are not caught in a catch-22, being guilty of receiving 
gifts, not knowing about it, not disclosing it, having an ethics 
violation, when in fact it should not exist.
  Now, there have been some erroneous arguments presented by the 
gentleman from Florida [Mr. Canady], my good friend, and I would like 
to explain why they are not correct. My amendment will not derail this 
important legislation, it will strengthen it so that we can finally 
attain lobby reform in a strong and logical way, and this will make 
sure we have true gift reform as well.
  It is necessary because a ban of lobbyists presenting gifts to 
Members of Congress will protect Members of Congress from an 
unintentional failure to reject gifts. It is consistent with the Gift 
Reform Act that we passed under House Resolution 250. My amendment will 
provide reform without risk, and any differences there can be clarified 
within the conference committee.
  It is fair because it makes lobbyists and Members equally 
responsible, and it makes sure that in fact they will be protected. As 
representatives of the people, we need to give the kind of reforms not 
only for lobbyists but for ourselves which the public wants.
  Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. CANADY of Florida. Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute to the 
gentleman from Massachusetts [Mr. Frank].
  Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentleman from 
Florida [Mr. Canady] for yielding me this time and for his 
contributions on this important issue.
  The issue here is whether or not we are going to have a lobbying 
bill. We have a history here of legislation getting killed because it 
gets caught up in House-Senate fights. I have filed a bill today, along 
with the gentleman from Texas and the gentleman from Connecticut, it is 
bipartisan, leaders in this fight, that take many of the amendments 
that will be offered that have a lot of merit and make them into a 
separate bill. Because if we amend this bill, the certainty is that it 
goes to the Senate; and the likelihood then is that no bill emerges and 
it becomes a way to kill it.
  Mr. Chairman, the preferable way is to send this first very good step 
to the President and have him sign it and then for us to deal with this 
amendment and others in a vehicle that will soon follow.
  I would ask the gentleman from Florida [Mr. Canady], the chairman of 
the subcommittee, who has done such a good leadership job in this, if 
he would agree, as he has told me, that we would have such a vehicle.
  Mr. CANADY of Florida. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield?
  Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. I yield to the gentleman from Florida.
  Mr. CANADY of Florida. Mr. Chairman, I would say to the gentleman 
that I am committed to moving forward with other aspects of this reform 
issue early next year, and I will certainly work with the gentleman 
from Massachusetts and other Members who are concerned about 
strengthening this bill at the right time and the right place.
  Mr. FOX of Pennsylvania. Mr. Chairman, I yield 30 seconds to the 
gentleman from Illinois [Mr. Weller].
  Mr. WELLER. Mr. Chairman, I rise in support of this amendment.
  Mr. Chairman, very often we have good bills that come to the floor 
and the chairman and the ranking members and many others have worked 
well to come forward with a bill that is a good bill. We have an 
amendment here which improves the bill, and frankly, my colleagues of 
the House, this is an amendment to protect Members of the House.

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  We all know that there are those out there who want to set up and 
entrap Members of Congress and their staff. This amendment will protect 
Members of Congress and their staff from entrapment by our political 
enemies who solely want to file ethics charges for campaign purposes.
  Mr. Chairman, I say to my colleagues, I urge a ``yes'' vote. The 
gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. Fox] is right on the mark.
  Mr. CANADY of Florida. Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my 
time.
  Mr. FOX of Pennsylvania. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I 
may consume.
  Mr. Chairman and my colleagues of the House, I especially understand 
the importance of the lobby disclosure bill, and all Americans want to 
see us pass it, but I think also they want to see that we do it right 
with the gift ban.
  When we pass a rule, there is nothing like teeth in a bill like this 
bill, making it better, making sure that lobbyists do not try to give 
us gifts: and, frankly, this is what the American people want. We want 
to make sure we have true reform that is meaningful. This amendment is 
necessary, it is consistent, it clarifies, it is fair, and it will help 
make the Canady bill better, not worse.
  Mr. Chairman, I ask for passage of this bill and this amendment.
  Mr. CANADY of Florida. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I 
may consume.
  Mr. Chairman, let me first say that I have the utmost respect for the 
gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. Fox]. He is a valuable Member of the 
House. However, I believe that the amendment before the House today is 
a seriously flawed amendment, and Members should pay close attention to 
its flaws.
  The definition of gift contained in the amendment is different from 
the definition of gift contained in the gift reform rule adopted by the 
House. Look at the two versions and you will see they are different. 
This inconsistency will create a mess for Members. It will not protect 
Members.
  For example, under the gift reform rule, Members may accept food or 
refreshments of a nominal value, other than as part of a meal. However, 
under the Fox amendment, lobbyists would be banned from providing such 
food and refreshments of nominal value.
  Under the Fox amendment, lobbyists are permitted to make donations of 
home State products to Members, but under the gift reform rule, Members 
are prohibited from accepting gifts of home State products.
  These and other inconsistencies will only lead to confusion and 
trouble for Members, not to protection for Members.
  Even more troubling, and I ask the Members to pay close attention to 
this, is the double standard set up by this amendment under which 
lobbyists who give unlawful gifts will face a civil penalty of up to 
$50,000, while Members are exempt from any civil penalty, no matter how 
many prohibited gifts they accept. Is that what we want to do in this 
House today? It is patently unfair.
  How can we explain to the American people that we will hammer 
lobbyists with fines for giving gifts while we are exempt from the same 
fines if we accept gifts? Any attempt at an explanation to the American 
people will fall on deaf ears. The double standard should be rejected. 
This amendment should be rejected.
  The CHAIRMAN. All time has expired.


                    amendment offered by mr. clinger

  The CHAIRMAN. It is now in order to debate the subject matter of the 
amendment offered by the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. Clinger].
  The gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. Clinger] will be recognized for 
2\1/2\ minutes, and the gentleman from Florida [Mr. Canady] will be 
recognized for 2\1/2\ minutes.
  The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. Clinger].
  Mr. CLINGER. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself 1 minute.
  Mr. Chairman, the amendment we are considering at this point is an 
important amendment, and it is a commonsense amendment. I would not be 
offering this amendment, obviously, if this were a closed rule, and it 
would not be allowable for me to offer that, but this is an open rule.
  Second, if this were not a germane amendment, I would not be offering 
it. They are asking for waivers, but it is a germane amendment.
  The fact is I think all of us know that we have a problem in this 
area. Too many Federal agencies, both now and in the past, have been 
using taxpayer dollars to produce propaganda, lobbying material in the 
form of brochures and folders and flyers, et cetera, which then are 
disseminated out into the grassroots, out into the field and come back 
to us in the form of grassroots lobbying. That clearly is an 
impermissible activity. It is clearly one that should be illegal; and, 
in fact, it is illegal.
  Under a law passed in 1919, it is a criminal offense to do just that, 
but nobody, nobody, no agency has ever been prosecuted under that 
criminal offense. What we would propose to do in this amendment is 
create a civil problem in saying, look, it is a civil offense; you 
cannot do this.
  Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. CANADY of Florida. Mr. Chairman, I yield 30 seconds to the 
gentleman from Illinois [Mr. Flanagan].
  Mr. FLANAGAN. Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentleman for yielding me 
this time.
  Mr. Chairman, with great respect to the gentleman from Pennsylvania 
[Mr. Clinger], and there is no greater foe of Astroturf lobbying and 
abuses of grassroots lobbying on the floor than myself, having spoken 
on it several times, but I would still urge a no vote on this amendment 
and every amendment to this, because the purpose we have today is to 
try and get a clean bill through to the President.
  We can handle it in separate legislation, offered in a bipartisan 
way. We can amend what will be a law later to include great ideas like 
this. There are many ways that we can have these sorts of advances in 
the law without having to do it by clogging up this bill and actually 
stopping the process cold today. I urge a ``no'' vote.
  Mr. CANADY of Florida. Mr. Chairman, I yield 30 seconds to the 
gentleman from Texas [Mr. Bryant].
  (Mr. BRYANT of Texas asked and was given permission to revise and 
extend his remarks.)

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  Mr. BRYANT of Texas. Mr. Chairman, I urge Members to vote against 
this.
  We have asked all Members to vote against these amendments so we can 
send a clean bill to the President and be signed.
  This amendment would in effect say that the President of the United 
States and the Cabinet members are the only ones that could communicate 
on television about any matter of public importance.
  What it in effect says is that they would have to answer every single 
press inquiry and nobody in the agency could legally talk to a radio or 
television reporter or to the press.
  I think it is very, very overbroad, it is probably unconstitutional, 
and if it is important enough and deserves our action, the bill is now 
in the committee of the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. Clinger]. He 
could bring the bill to the floor standing alone.
  Vote against the amendment.
  Mr. CLINGER. Mr. Chairman, I yield 30 seconds to the gentleman from 
Louisiana [Mr. Tauzin], a strong supporter of this amendment.
  Mr. TAUZIN. Mr. Chairman, I rise in strong support of the amendment. 
This is the right bill for this amendment.
  This bill is about inappropriate lobbying. If there is a form of 
inappropriate lobbying that is most pernicious, it is the use of 
taxpayer dollars, which are supposed to be spent to carry out 
Government programs, instead using those taxpayer dollars to lobby this 
Congress and to work in collusion with outside groups to lobby this 
Congress. That is an act that ought to be prohibited in the civil 
statutes just as it is in the criminal statutes.
  By the way, this practice is not a Democrat or Republican one. It has 
been going on for years. We need to make it illegal.
  Mr. CLINGER. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself the balance of my time just 
to underscore a couple of points the gentleman from Louisiana made.
  No. 1, this has been accused of being a partisan effort. It is not. 
Clearly this activity has gone on in many administrations. I can cite 
examples from the Reagan administration.

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  It is an amendment that will continue to be alive and well in the 
next administration, which those of us hope will be a Republican 
administration.
  Second, we cannot worry always about what the other body is going to 
do. If we were going to circumscribe our activity by what the other 
body was going to do, we would never do anything over on this side. I 
think that is somewhat of a spurious argument.
  This amendment is strongly supported by NFIB, the Chamber of 
Commerce, the National Taxpayers Union, Citizens Against Government 
Waste, and the House leadership, I might point out.
  I would suggest, Mr. Chairman, that it is a good amendment, an 
amendment that clearly fits within this bill. It has to do with lobby 
reform, it has to do with inappropriate lobbying. Nothing could be 
more inappropriate in the way of lobbying than to have an 
administrative/executive branch agency producing documents which then 
are used in the field for grassroots lobbying. Let us put a stop to it. 
Let us vote for this amendment.

  Mr. CANADY of Florida. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself the balance of my 
time.
  Although offered with the very best of intentions to address a real 
problem, I believe that the Clinger amendment is the wrong approach at 
the wrong time.
  I am afraid to say that it is a poorly drafted proposal which will 
have an exceptionally broad impact. For example, under the Clinger 
amendment, agency press officers would not be allowed to answer 
inquiries from the press regarding the agency's position on legislative 
proposals. Do we really want to do that?
  Agency press secretaries would not be allowed to issue press releases 
regarding pending information. Do we really want to do that?
  Agency legislative liaison personnel would be prohibited from making 
public statements regarding the merits of legislative proposals. Do we 
really want to do that?
  No hearings have been conducted on this proposal even though the 
issue is within the jurisdiction of the gentleman from Pennsylvania, 
the committee that he chairs.
  This proposal involves a conflict between the legislative branch and 
the executive branch and is calculated to provoke a Presidential veto. 
Although there have been lobbying abuses by Federal agencies, we all 
understand that, it has been a bipartisan matter, the Clinger amendment 
simply goes to far. The proposal of the gentleman from Pennsylvania 
[Mr. Clinger] should be considered and refined by the Committee on 
Government Reform and Oversight which the gentleman from Pennsylvania 
chairs. It should not be allowed to threaten this Lobbying Disclosure 
Reform Act. We have waited too long.
  I urge Members to vote against this amendment so that we can end 40 
years of gridlock and send a lobbying disclosure reform bill to the 
President for his signature.


            amendment offered by mr. english of pennsylvania

  The CHAIRMAN. It is now in order to debate the subject matter of the 
amendment offered by the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. English].
  The gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. English] and the gentleman from 
Florida [Mr. Canady] each will be recognized for 2\1/2\ minutes.
  The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. English].
  Mr. ENGLISH of Pennsylvania. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself 1\1/4\ 
minutes.
  Mr. Chairman, I rise in strong support of the English-Traficant 
amendment and ask that the House do the right thing and slam the 
revolving door for all U.S. trade officials who then try to go to work 
for foreign interests.
  The underlying bill here, which I strongly support, includes a life 
ban on people leaving the position of U.S. trade representative or 
deputy trade representative and going to work for foreign interests. It 
also applies a ban on individuals being hired for those positions who 
have previously worked for foreign interests.
  I believe that it is very important that we extend this restriction 
to the Secretary of Commerce and to the members of the International 
Trade Commission. This is a clear conflict of interest. I think this is 
a fundamental reform necessary to protect American companies and 
American workers and preserve the integrity of U.S. trade law 
enforcement.
  Mr. Chairman, we cannot allow these people to serve on one side of 
the table negotiating on our behalf, learn our secrets, learn our 
strategies, learn the inside, and then move over to the other side.
  Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. CANADY of Florida. Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute to the 
gentleman from Texas [Mr. Doggett].
  Mr. DOGGETT. Mr. Chairman, this legislation presents us with a rare 
opportunity in this Congress to work together as people of good will, 
Democrats and Republicans, in a bipartisan effort to provide reform 
that people really want. We know that this is a statute that has not 
been significantly rewritten since 1946 when it was enacted. There has 
been one failed effort after another.
  Now is not the time to let the perfect become the enemy of the good. 
This particular amendment is not a bad idea. In fact, I would support 
it as a freestanding piece of legislation, and there are numerous 
opportunities to put this kind of legislation on other legislation. But 
to put it on this particular bill at this time is to cripple and to 
defeat this bill.
  There is only one way to get this legislation passed and to avoid the 
never-never land of a perfect bill, and that is to defeat this and 
every other amendment and to put this bill on the President's desk now 
and get it in place and signed into law by January. That is what we 
need to do tonight.
  Mr. ENGLISH of Pennsylvania. Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute to the 
gentleman from Youngstown, OH [Mr. Traficant], one of the most 
distinguished trade warriors in this Chamber.
  Mr. TRAFICANT. Mr. Chairman, I have heard the discussion that now is 
not the time, we can add this to some other piece of legislation. There 
is no other legislation. We will not see it.
  Let me make this point. If a Government official left the Department 
of Defense to go to work for our enemies during war, they would in fact 
be jailed and charged with espionage and treason. But today high-
ranking officials, once they leave our service, work on behalf of 
foreign interests.
  Now the bill recognizes that. With a lifetime ban, U.S. Trade 
Representative and other deputy representatives. What about the 
Secretary of Commerce? What about the members of the International 
Trade Commission, folks?
  I think this amendment speaks right to the point. There have been 
people wheeling and dealing in high places and when they leave, they go 
right to work for our competitors.
  This is the bill, this is germane, this is the time to pass it. 
Support this amendment. It makes sense.
  Mr. ENGLISH of Pennsylvania. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself the balance 
of my time.
  Mr. Chairman, I think it is essential for American workers and 
American companies that every Member of this Chamber who supports fair 
trade, who supports protecting our economic interests, who opposes 
economic quislings supports this amendment. It is essential. Ladies and 
gentlemen, let us get this one done.
  Mr. CANADY of Florida. Mr. Chairman, I yield such time as he may 
consume to the gentleman from Texas [Mr. Bryant].
  (Mr. BRYANT of Texas asked and was given permission to revise and 
extend his remarks.)
  Mr. BRYANT of Texas. Mr. Chairman, I urge Members to vote ``no'' on 
an amendment that I would on any other day in any other situation 
support.
  I strongly support the English of Pennsylvania and the Fox of 
Pennsylvania amendments to the lobby reform bill. I strongly agree with 
the purposes of these amendments. I have supported the concepts 
contained in them for years and I continue to do so.
  But I deeply regret I am compelled to urge Members to vote against 
them--just as we have urged Members to oppose all amendments to the 
bill--so we can send the bill on to the President to be signed into 
law.
  We know any amendment to this bill--even those as meritorious as 
these two--will doom the bill to conference with the Senate, where it 
will surely die as all other attempts to reform lobbying for over 40 
years have died. 

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  Make no mistake about it, if we have to go to conference again on 
this bill, we will be stuck there--just as we were stuck at the 
adjournment of the last Congress when the original bill died. This bill 
is too important to meet the same fate in this Congress.
  The chairman of the Constitution Subcommittee, Mr. Canady, and its 
ranking member, Mr. Frank, have promised to move a separate lobby 
reform bill through the Judiciary Committee early next year. I will 
cosponsor that bill and will do everything I can to ensure it becomes 
law with these two amendments in it.
  Mr. CANADY of Florida. Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute to the 
gentlewoman from Washington [Mrs. Smith].
  Mrs. SMITH of Washington. Mr. Chairman, I think what we see before us 
today is what some of us call loving a bill to death.
  In the State legislature, we used to call it Christmas treeing. You 
get enough on the Christmas tree that it crumbles by its own weight. 
Loving it to death just means that you keep doing good things to the 
bill until it dies.
  Today we could be loving this bill to death if we pass any of these 
very good amendments. What we have got is some amendments that are good 
but at the wrong time. If we pass amendments on this bill, the chances 
of the underlying bill not becoming law go up substantially.
  I believe inside, and from what I am hearing from the Senate and the 
President, there is a good chance that we will kill this legislation by 
hanging one amendment on it.
  Since I have gotten here, I have found that a lot of people say a lot 
of good things about reform but then they find a lot of good ways to 
kill it. Do not kill this bill. Vote ``no'' on all the amendments.
  Mr. CANADY of Florida. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself the balance of my 
time.
  I rise in opposition to this amendment, although I am very 
sympathetic to the goal of this amendment and I believe that the 
amendment has substantial merit. This proposal and others relating to 
representation of foreign interests will be considered by the 
Subcommittee on the Constitution early next year.
  I do not believe, however, that it should be allowed to interfere 
with the passage of this bill and sending this bill to the President 
for his signature. We have waited 40 years and we should not allow this 
good proposal to get in the way of our goal of enacting lobbying 
disclosure reform.


                    amendment offered by mr. weller

  The CHAIRMAN. It is now in order to debate the subject matter of the 
amendment offered by the gentleman from Illinois [Mr. Weller].
  The gentleman from Illinois [Mr. Weller] and the gentleman from 
Florida [Mr. Canady] will each be recognized for 2\1/2\ minutes.
  The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Illinois [Mr. Weller].

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  Mr. WELLER. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself 1 minute.
  Mr. Chairman, this is basically a pretty simple issue on this 
amendment, and that is: Do taxpayers have the right to know?
  Earlier this year there was a poll that was taken, and the national 
news media was actually held in lower esteem by the taxpayers than the 
Congress. I believe that the public deserves the right to know.
  This amendment gives the public the opportunity to know that 
journalists are being paid speaking fees and honoraria by special 
interests. The Senate has already made clear its intentions by urging 
members of the media to disclose it.
  Well, this amendment places the burden on the lobbyists when they 
disclose their paperwork every year. All they have to do is say what 
honoraria they pay to which journalists and when they pay it. It still 
allows journalists to collect the fees. It still allows journalists the 
right to go out and speak. It just gives the public the right to know.
  I ask for a ``yes'' vote.
  Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. CANADY of Florida. Mr. Chairman, I yield 30 seconds to the 
gentleman from Oregon [Mr. DeFazio].
  Mr. DeFAZIO. Mr. Chairman, I was to offer an amendment tonight that 
would require disclosure of paid lobbyists' contacts with Members. I 
thought it would be extraordinarily valuable to the public and the 
lobbyist community. But in the interests of getting this bill passed 
and getting some improvement in this situation here in Washington, I 
will withhold that amendment tonight and would urge everybody to oppose 
all amendments because it is a ruse to kill the bill.
  We have got to get this bill, begin reform, and then we can come back 
with more significant reforms later in a second piece of legislation 
that we will bring up after the first of the year.
  Mr. WELLER. Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from 
Washington [Mr. Tate].
  Mr. TATE. Mr. Chairman, I want to commend the gentleman from Illinois 
for his leadership in regards to reform issues.
  This Congress has truly been cleaning house about rebuilding faith in 
our institutions. We have already done many of these reforms. There is 
more to be done.
  There are some in the media, as was stated, that do receive honoraria 
for their speaking engagements. They then get the opportunity to report 
in regard to these industries on television.
  The public has the right to know who these industries are. This 
amendment does not prohibit, does not limit. It simply requires the 
disclosure by the lobbyists who provide this honoraria.
  The taxpayers have a right to know. We owe it to them.
  Mr. CANADY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from 
Connecticut [Mr. Shays].
  Mr. SHAYS. Mr. Chairman, if Members want to kill lobby disclosure, 
just amend it. Find the best amendment and just amend it, and you have 
killed lobby disclosure.
  The last meaningful bill we had was in 1946. Then the Senate gutted 
lobby disclosure. We have 660,000 to 780,000 people who lobby. Only 
6,000 are registered lobbyists.
  I urge my Members to wake up and see what is happening here. This is, 
in the end, an attempt to kill lobby disclosure.
  Defeat all amendments. Send this to the President. Get this signed 
into law, and then bring out these bills after they have had public 
hearings.
  Mr. WELLER. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself the balance of my time.
  Mr. Chairman, I stand in strong support of the bill the gentleman 
from Florida [Mr. Canady] has brought forward. He is my friend. He has 
worked hard on this. I understand his intent.
  Let us make a good bill better. I believe the process works. We need 
to add good amendments.
  I also believe the American public has the right to know when those 
who are providing information and determining what information is 
shared with the American public on issues that are so important to 
American taxpayers that those who are the gatekeeper on information are 
receiving speaking fees or honoraria.
  Let us give the public the right to know. What this amendment does is 
require a registered lobbyist to disclose speaking fees and honoraria 
that they pay to journalists, when it was paid, how it was paid and how 
much, and let the public know. Otherwise, journalists can continue 
receiving these fees.
  It does not prevent them from being on the speaking circuit. It just 
gives the public the right to know journalists are receiving speaking 
fees up to $60,000.
  Mr. CANADY of Florida. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself the balance of my 
time.
  Mr. Chairman, I urge a vote against the Weller amendment on the 
grounds it raises serious first amendment concerns.
  I believe that targeting the media in the way that this amendment 
does is not something we should do, and would urge Members to vote 
against it on that basis.
  But I would also urge Members, focus on what is at stake here. 
Tonight the House has a historic opportunity to end 40 years of 
gridlock, 40 years of inaction and stalemate and 40 years of failure. 
The bill we are considering is identical to the bill which passed the 
Senate 98 to zero. The President has said he will sign it.
  It is time we got the job done. The American people want lobbying 
reform. We should listen to them. We should listen to them. We should 
not let this opportunity pass us by.
  Let us send a bill to the President, no more delay, no more promises, 
no more excuses. Let us give the American people lobbying reform 
tonight.
  I urge that the Members vote against all the amendments and support 
this bill.
  Mr. WYDEN. Mr. Speaker, lobbying reform needs to be enacted now. If 
there is any delay, it may be another 40 years before anything gets 
done. 

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  The United We Stand organization has written all of us that 
amendments on this bill should be opposed so that lobbying reform does 
not get caught up again in legislative gridlock. My colleagues Smith, 
Bryant, Canady, Frank, and others have argued passionately and 
convincingly that amendments would only mean that once again the 
enemies of lobbying reform would prevail. This is why I chose to oppose 
any amendments to this legislation.
  I do want to emphasize, however, that under any other circumstances, 
I would support the Fox amendment to prohibit lobbyists from giving 
gifts to Members of Congress. Already, as of January 1, 1996, Members 
will be prohibited from accepting gifts, and we ought to make this a 
two-way street.
  Additionally, I would strongly support Representative English's 
amendment which would impose a lifetime ban on the Secretary of 
Commerce and the Commissioner of the International Trade Commission 
from lobbying for a foreign interest.
  Representative Canady has promised that these amendments will be 
brought up in a second piece of legislation. I intend to be a part of 
the effort to move these amendments and will work for their passage.
  While I think there are many ways to further improve lobbying reform 
legislation, it is time to end the gridlock on lobbying reform. The 
time is now. The place is here. At long last, let's send a lobbying 
reform bill to the President.
  Mr. BOEHNER. Mr. Speaker, I support the amendment offered by 
Representative Bill Clinger to put an end to the lobbying activities of 
executive branch employees.
  Too much of the information the executive branch distributes is 
designed not to educate or inform but to generate public opposition or 
support for matters before Congress. Currently, there is a law on the 
books to prohibit such political lobbying activity. However, the 
statute is so vague, no one has ever been held accountable.
  The Clinger amendment clarifies the existing law to make sure that 
Federal employees are administering Federal programs and assisting the 
American people rather than spending their time involved in partisan 
politics. Executive branch officials such as the President, Vice 
President, and officials approved by the Senate are exempted, but other 
public servants involved in the day-to-day operations of this Nation 
would be prohibited from playing politics with taxpayer money.
  I have witnessed first-hand this irresponsible and inappropriate 
behavior by Ohio employees of the Department of Agriculture [USDA]. 
Ohio State directors of USDA programs issued a press release making 
outrageous claims mimicking the shrill, partisan attacks we have heard 
from full time politicians in Washington.
  The antics of these employees, at taxpayer expense, degrade the term 
``public servants.'' These politically appointed bureaucrats with the 
USDA should have been spending their time and our tax dollars helping 
Ohio's farmers instead of attacking for partisan gain efforts to 
balance the budget. No administration, Democrat or Republican, should 
be allowed to use publicly paid employees to further blatantly partisan 
and political agendas.
  I urge my colleagues to support the Clinger amendment.
  Mrs. COLLINS of Illinois. Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to the 
amendment.
  Mr. Chairman, my Republican colleagues are a little thin-skinned. 
They do not like criticism. Faced with it, their instinctive reaction 
is to try and silence it.
  That is what the Istook amendment was all about--silencing the 
criticism of the Red Cross, the Girl Scouts, the Boy Scouts, the YMCA, 
and countless other nonprofit groups that oppose Republican cuts in 
education, nutritional programs, and health care.
  They especially wanted to silence the National Council of Senior 
Citizens that had the nerve to oppose Speaker Gingrich's cuts in 
Medicare and Medicaid. Republicans even went as far as to have senior 
citizens arrested when they tried to make their views known at a 
committee meeting.
  The amendment of my colleague from Pennsylvania is also aimed at 
silencing opposition--this time it's the opposition of Federal 
agencies.
  Isn't it interesting that the Republicans, who are so fond of 
reminding us that the Government belongs to the people, propose in this 
amendment to prohibit, I repeat prohibit, Federal agencies from talking 
to anyone except Congress? I ask my Republican colleagues, why do you 
want to prevent the people's Government from speaking to the people?
  This amendment strictly prohibits, and I quote, ``the preparation, 
publication, distribution, or use of any kit, pamphlet, booklet, public 
presentation, news release, radio, television, or film presentation, 
video, or other written or oral statement, that is intended to promote 
public support or opposition to any legislative proposal * * * on which 
congressional action is not complete.'', end of quote.
  Mr. Chairman, we had a President, not so long ago, who prided himself 
on being a great communicator. President Reagan took his case directly 
to the people. He had his whole administration out convincing the 
people of the correctness of his policies.
  He went around Congress in order to build public support for his 
legislative agenda, and without that public support he would never have 
gotten Congress to do what he wanted.
  I sincerely doubt President Reagan, the great communicator, would 
have wanted his administration restricted to communicating with 
Congress. While I was not a fan of many of President Reagan's policies, 
I firmly believe that he, and every President, not only has the right, 
but the duty to make his case directly to the people.
  Mr. Chairman, let's get one other thing clear, too. The amendment we 
are now considering seeks to remedy a nonexistent problem.
  Federal law already prohibits agencies from using appropriated funds 
to engage in lobbying.
  If the proponents of this amendment believe agencies have engaged in 
grassroots lobbying, then they can take action under existing laws that 
already prohibit this activity.
  So, why are new restrictions needed?
  Mr. Chairman, the answer is: they are not.
  I urge my colleagues to vote no on this amendment. True democracy can 
only exist where trust, not deceit, binds the people to their 
government and the government to its people.
  Mr. LEACH. Mr. Chairman, I rise to explain a series of votes on lobby 
reform under consideration today. Amendments, several of which meet 
thorough-going commonsense standards, have been introduced which I 
expect to vote against because they will precipitate the bill going to 
conference where those leading the reform movement are convinced I will 
be buried.
  National organizations from Common Cause to Ralph Nader's advocacy 
groups, as well as major newspapers such as the New York Times, 
Washington Post, and Des Moines Register have expressed concern that 
unless this lobby disclosure bill is passed without amendment exactly 
as the Senate has already approved it, lobby disclosure will wither in 
this Congress.
  Hence, it is my intention to vote against amendments to this bill 
with the understanding that I would expect to support the precepts 
underlying them in discreet, separate bills which can be brought to the 
floor at another time.
  As for now, if we pass this bill unamended, it can go to the 
President's desk for signature this week. If we amend it with any of 
the well-intentioned amendments before us, a strong possibility exists 
that the underlying bill will never become law. Let us thus pass the 
bill as is and then bring forth the approaches contained in the 
amendment in another context at another time.
  Mr. POMEROY. Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong support of the Lobbying 
Disclosure Act of 1995 and in opposition to the amendments that will be 
offered for consideration today.
  Mr. Speaker, the bill before us today is identical to the legislation 
passed by the Senate by unanimous vote. If we approve this legislation 
without amendment, the bill will be sent to the President and signed 
into law. If, on the other hand, the House adopts even a single 
amendment, the bill must be sent to conference, where history has 
taught us that the enemies of lobbying reform will delay, obstruct and 
effectively kill this breakthrough legislation.
  Therefore, I will vote against the amendments offered today not 
because the bill is perfect or because all of the amendments are 
without merit, but because Congress can no longer afford to delay 
meaningful lobbying reform.
  I appreciate the commitment of Chairman Canady and Mr. Frank to 
strongly advocate for the expeditious consideration these amendments in 
separate legislation. In this way, Congress will have the opportunity 
to evaluate the merit of these amendments without endangering the 
enactment of lobbying reform.
  I congratulate the chairman and ranking minority member for their 
work on this legislation and strongly urge its adoption.
  The CHAIRMAN. All time for further debate on these amendments has 
expired.
  Pursuant to the order of the House of Tuesday, November 16, 1995, 
proceedings will now resume on those amendments on which further 
proceedings were postponed in the following order: The amendment 
offered by the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. Fox], the amendment 
offered by the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. Clinger], the amendment 
offered by the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. English], and the 
amendment offered by the gentleman from Illinois [Mr. Weller].
  The Chair would advise Members that he will reduce to a minimum of 5 

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  minutes the time for any electronic vote after the second vote in this 
series. The first and second votes will be 15-minute votes. The last 
two will be 5-minute votes.


              amendment offered by mr. fox of pennsylvania

  The CHAIRMAN. The unfinished business is the demand for a recorded 
vote on the amendment offered by the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. 
Fox], on which further proceedings were postponed and on which the noes 
prevailed by voice vote.
  The Clerk will designate the amendment.
  The text of the amendment is as follows:

       Amendment offered by Mr. Fox of Pennsylvania: Page 23, 
     insert after line 2 the following:
       (d) Prohibition on Gifts.--
       (1) In general.--No lobbyist who is registered under 
     section 4 may provide any gift to a Member of the House of 
     Representatives, a Senator, or an officer or employee of the 
     House of Representatives or the Senate unless the lobbyist is 
     related to the Member, Senator, or officer or employee.
       (2) Definition.--For the purpose of paragraph (1), the term 
     ``gift'' means any gratuity, favor, discount, entertainment, 
     hospitality, loan, forbearance, or other item having monetary 
     value. The term includes gifts of services, training, 
     transportation, lodging, and meals, whether provided in kind, 
     by purchase of a ticket, payment in advance, or reimbursement 
     after the expense has been incurred.
       (3) Exception.--The restriction in paragraph (1) shall not 
     apply to the following:
       (A) Anything for which the Member, Senator, officer, or 
     employee pays the market value, or does not use and promptly 
     returns to the donor.
       (B) A contribution, as defined in section 301(8) of the 
     Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 (2 U.S.C. 431 et seq.) 
     that is lawfully made under that Act, a contribution for 
     election to a State or local government office limited as 
     prescribed by section 301(8)(B) of such Act, or attendance at 
     a fundraising event sponsored by a political organization 
     described in section 527(e) of the Internal Revenue Code of 
     1986.
       (B) A gift from a relative as described in section 109(5) 
     of title I of the Ethics in Government Act of 1978 (Public 
     Law 95-521).
       (C)(i) Anything provided by an individual on the basis of a 
     personal friendship unless the Member, Senator, officer, or 
     employee has reason to believe that, under the circumstances, 
     the gift was provided because of the official position of the 
     Member, Senator, officer, or employee and not because of the 
     personal friendship.
       (ii) In determining whether a gift is provided on the basis 
     of personal friendship, the Member, Senator, officer, or 
     employee shall consider the circumstances under which the 
     gift was offered, such as:
       (I) The history of the relationship between the individual 
     giving the gift and the recipient of the gift, including any 
     previous exchange of gifts between such individuals.
       (II) Whether to the actual knowledge of the Member, 
     Senator, officer, or employee the individual who gave the 
     gift personally paid for the gift or sought a tax deduction 
     or business reimbursement for the gift.
       (III) Whether to the actual knowledge of the Member, 
     Senator, officer, or employee the individual who gave the 
     gift also at the same time gave the same or similar gifts to 
     other Members, officers, or employees.
       (D) A contribution or other payment to a legal expense fund 
     established for the benefit of a Member, Senator, officer, or 
     employee that is otherwise lawfully made in accordance with 
     the restrictions and disclosure requirements of the Committee 
     on Standards of Official Conduct.
       (E) Any gift from another Member, Senator, officer, or 
     employee of the Senate or the House of Representatives.
       (F) Food, refreshments, lodging, and other benefits--
       (i) resulting from the outside business or employment 
     activities (or other outside activities that are not 
     concerned to the duties of the Member, Senator, officer, or 
     employee as an officeholder) of the Member, Senator, officer, 
     or employee, or the spouse of the Member, Senator, officer, 
     or employee, if such benefits have not been offered or 
     enhanced because of the official position of the Member, 
     Senator, officer, or employee and are customarily provided to 
     others in similar circumstances;
       (ii) customarily provided by a prospective employer in 
     connection with bona fide employment discussions; or
       (iii) provided by a political organization described in 
     section 527(e) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 in 
     connection with a fundraising or campaign event sponsored by 
     such an organization.
       (G) Pension and other benefits resulting from continued 
     participation in an employee welfare and benefits plan 
     maintained by a former employee.
       (H) Informational materials that are sent to the office of 
     the Member, Senator, officer, or employee in the form of 
     books, articles, periodicals, other written materials, 
     audiotapes, videotapes, or other forms of communication.
       (I) Awards or prizes which are given to competitors in 
     contests or events open to the public, including random 
     drawings.
       (J) Honorary degrees (and associated travel, food, 
     refreshments, and entertainment) and other bona fide, 
     nonmonetary awards presented in recognition of public service 
     (and associated food, refreshments, and entertainment 
     provided in the presentation of such degrees and awards).
       (K) Donations of products from the State that the Member 
     represents that are intended primarily for promotional 
     purposes, such as display or free distribution, and are of 
     minimal value to any individual recipient.
       (L) Training (including food and refreshments furnished to 
     all attendees as an integral part of the training) provided 
     to a Member, Senator, officer, or employee, if such training 
     is in the interest of the Senate or House of 
     Representatives.
       (M) Bequests, inheritances, and other transfers at death.
       (N) Any item, the receipt of which is authorized by the 
     Foreign Gifts and Decorations Act, the Mutual Educational and 
     Cultural Exchange Act, or any other statute.
       (O) Anything which is paid for by the Federal Government, 
     by a State or local government, or secured by the Government 
     under a Government contract.
       (P) A gift of personal hospitality (as defined in section 
     109(14) of the Ethics in Government Act) of an individual 
     other than a registered lobbyist or agent of a foreign 
     principal.
       (Q) Free attendance at a widely attended convention, 
     conference, symposium, forum, panel discussion, dinner, 
     viewing, reception, or similar event provided by the sponsor 
     of the event.
       (R) Opportunities and benefits which are--
       (i) available to the public or to a class consisting of all 
     Federal employees, whether or not restricted on the basis of 
     geographic consideration;
       (ii) offered to members of a group or class in which 
     membership is unrelated to congressional employment;
       (iii) offered to members of an organization, such as an 
     employees' association or congressional credit union, in 
     which membership is related to congressional employment and 
     similar opportunities are available to large segments of the 
     public through organizations of similar size;
       (iv) offered to any group or class that is not defined in a 
     manner that specifically discriminates among Government 
     employees on the basis of branch of Government or type of 
     responsibility, or on a basis that favors those of higher 
     rank or rate of pay;
       (v) in the form of loans from banks and other financial 
     institutions on terms generally available to the public; or
       (vi) in the form of reduced membership or other fees for 
     participation in organization activities offered to all 
     Government employees by professional organizations if the 
     only restrictions on membership relate to professional 
     qualifications.
       (S) A plaque, trophy, or other item that is substantially 
     commemorative in nature and which is intended solely for 
     presentation.
       (T) Anything for which, in an unusual case, a waiver is 
     granted by the Committee on Standards of Official Conduct.


                             recorded vote

  The CHAIRMAN. A recorded vote has been demanded.
  A recorded was ordered.
  The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 171, 
noes 257, not voting 4, as follows:

                             [Roll No 824]

                               AYES--171

     Abercrombie
     Allard
     Andrews
     Archer
     Armey
     Bachus
     Baesler
     Baker (CA)
     Baldacci
     Ballenger
     Barr
     Bartlett
     Barton
     Bishop
     Bliley
     Boehner
     Bono
     Boucher
     Brewster
     Bryant (TN)
     Bunn
     Bunning
     Burr
     Burton
     Buyer
     Camp
     Chabot
     Chambliss
     Christensen
     Clinger
     Coburn
     Collins (GA)
     Combest
     Cooley
     Costello
     Crane
     Cremeans
     Cubin
     Danner
     de la Garza
     DeFazio
     Dickey
     Dornan
     Doyle
     Duncan
     Dunn
     Durbin
     Edwards
     Ehlers
     Ehrlich
     English
     Evans
     Fields (LA)
     Fields (TX)
     Filner
     Forbes
     Fox
     Frisa
     Funderburk
     Gallegly
     Gekas
     Gillmor
     Goodling
     Gordon
     Green
     Gutierrez
     Gutknecht
     Hall (TX)
     Hastert
     Hastings (WA)
     Hayworth
     Hefley
     Heineman
     Herger
     Hilleary
     Holden
     Horn
     Hostettler
     Istook
     Jefferson
     Johnson (CT)
     Johnson (SD)
     Johnson, Sam
     Jones
     Kanjorski
     Kasich
     Kelly
     Kim
     Kingston
     Klink
     LaHood
     Largent
     LaTourette
     Lewis (CA)
     Lipinski
     LoBiondo
     Lucas
     Manton
     Manzullo
     Mascara
     McDade
     McInnis
     McIntosh
     McKeon
     McNulty
     Metcalf
     Mica
     Miller (CA)
     Molinari
     Moorhead
     Myers
     Myrick
     Nethercutt
     Neumann
     Ney
     Norwood
     Oxley
     Parker
     Pastor
     Paxon
     Peterson (MN)
     Porter
     Poshard
     Pryce
     Quillen
     Radanovich
     Rahall
     Ramstad
     Reed
     Regula
     Riggs
     Rogers
     Rohrabacher
     Roth
     Royce
     Salmon
     Saxton
     Scarborough
     Schaefer
     Schumer
     Seastrand
     Shadegg
     Skelton
     Smith (MI)
     Solomon
     Souder
     Stearns
     Stenholm
     Stockman
     Stupak
     Talent
     Tanner
     Tate

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     Tauzin
     Taylor (MS)
     Taylor (NC)
     Thornberry
     Thurman
     Tiahrt
     Traficant
     Walker
     Wamp
     Watts (OK)
     Weldon (FL)
     Weldon (PA)
     Weller
     White
     Whitfield
     Wicker
     Williams
     Young (AK)

                               NOES--257

     Ackerman
     Baker (LA)
     Barcia
     Barrett (NE)
     Barrett (WI)
     Bass
     Bateman
     Becerra
     Beilenson
     Bentsen
     Bereuter
     Berman
     Bevill
     Bilbray
     Bilirakis
     Blute
     Boehlert
     Bonilla
     Bonior
     Borski
     Browder
     Brown (CA)
     Brown (FL)
     Brown (OH)
     Brownback
     Bryant (TX)
     Callahan
     Calvert
     Canady
     Cardin
     Castle
     Chapman
     Chenoweth
     Chrysler
     Clay
     Clayton
     Clement
     Clyburn
     Coble
     Coleman
     Collins (IL)
     Collins (MI)
     Condit
     Conyers
     Cox
     Coyne
     Cramer
     Crapo
     Cunningham
     Davis
     Deal
     DeLauro
     DeLay
     Dellums
     Deutsch
     Diaz-Balart
     Dicks
     Dingell
     Dixon
     Doggett
     Dooley
     Doolittle
     Dreier
     Emerson
     Engel
     Ensign
     Eshoo
     Everett
     Ewing
     Farr
     Fattah
     Fawell
     Fazio
     Flake
     Flanagan
     Foglietta
     Foley
     Ford
     Frank (MA)
     Franks (CT)
     Franks (NJ)
     Frelinghuysen
     Frost
     Furse
     Ganske
     Gejdenson
     Gephardt
     Geren
     Gibbons
     Gilchrest
     Gilman
     Gonzalez
     Goodlatte
     Goss
     Graham
     Greenwood
     Gunderson
     Hall (OH)
     Hamilton
     Hancock
     Hansen
     Harman
     Hastings (FL)
     Hayes
     Hilliard
     Hinchey
     Hobson
     Hoekstra
     Hoke
     Houghton
     Hoyer
     Hunter
     Hutchinson
     Hyde
     Inglis
     Jackson-Lee
     Jacobs
     Johnson, E. B.
     Johnston
     Kaptur
     Kennedy (MA)
     Kennedy (RI)
     Kennelly
     Kildee
     King
     Kleczka
     Klug
     Knollenberg
     Kolbe
     LaFalce
     Lantos
     Latham
     Laughlin
     Lazio
     Leach
     Levin
     Lewis (GA)
     Lewis (KY)
     Lightfoot
     Lincoln
     Linder
     Livingston
     Lofgren
     Longley
     Lowey
     Luther
     Maloney
     Markey
     Martinez
     Martini
     Matsui
     McCarthy
     McCollum
     McCrery
     McDermott
     McHale
     McHugh
     McKinney
     Meehan
     Meek
     Menendez
     Meyers
     Mfume
     Miller (FL)
     Minge
     Mink
     Moakley
     Mollohan
     Montgomery
     Moran
     Morella
     Murtha
     Nadler
     Neal
     Nussle
     Oberstar
     Obey
     Olver
     Ortiz
     Orton
     Owens
     Packard
     Pallone
     Payne (NJ)
     Payne (VA)
     Pelosi
     Peterson (FL)
     Petri
     Pickett
     Pombo
     Pomeroy
     Portman
     Quinn
     Rangel
     Richardson
     Rivers
     Roberts
     Roemer
     Ros-Lehtinen
     Rose
     Roukema
     Roybal-Allard
     Rush
     Sabo
     Sanders
     Sanford
     Sawyer
     Schiff
     Schroeder
     Scott
     Sensenbrenner
     Serrano
     Shaw
     Shays
     Shuster
     Sisisky
     Skaggs
     Skeen
     Slaughter
     Smith (NJ)
     Smith (TX)
     Smith (WA)
     Spence
     Spratt
     Stark
     Stokes
     Studds
     Stump
     Tejeda
     Thomas
     Thompson
     Thornton
     Torkildsen
     Torres
     Torricelli
     Towns
     Upton
     Velazquez
     Vento
     Visclosky
     Vucanovich
     Waldholtz
     Walsh
     Ward
     Waters
     Watt (NC)
     Waxman
     Wilson
     Wise
     Wolf
     Woolsey
     Wyden
     Wynn
     Yates
     Young (FL)
     Zeliff
     Zimmer

                             NOT VOTING--4

     Fowler
     Hefner
     Tucker
     Volkmer

                              {time}  1909

  Messrs. BARCIA, LATHAM, and LAZIO of New York changed their vote from 
``aye'' to ``no.''
  Messrs. PORTER, CHAMBLISS, SCHUMER, WILLIAMS, MILLER of California, 
and DeFAZIO changed their vote from ``no'' to ``aye.''
  So the amendment was rejected.
  The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.


                    AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. CLINGER

  The CHAIRMAN. The unfinished business is the demand for a recorded 
vote on the amendment offered by the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. 
Clinger] on which further proceedings were postponed and on which the 
ayes prevailed by voice vote.
  The Clerk will designate the amendment.
  The text of the amendment is as follows:

       Amendment offered by Mr. Clinger: Beginning on page 25, 
     redesignate sections 8 through 24 as sections 9 through 25, 
     respectively, strike ``this Act'' each place it occurs and 
     insert ``this Act (other than section 8)'', and insert after 
     line 2 the following:

     SEC. 8. PROHIBITION ON USE OF APPROPRIATIONS FOR LOBBYING.

       (a) In General.--Subchapter III of chapter 13 of title 31, 
     United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the 
     following new section:

     ``Sec. 1354. Prohibition on lobbying by Federal agencies

       ``(a) Prohibition.--Except as provided in subsection (b), 
     until or unless such activity has been specifically 
     authorized by an Act of Congress and notwithstanding any 
     other provision of law, no funds made available to any 
     Federal agency, by appropriation, shall be used by such 
     agency for any activity (including the preparation, 
     publication, distribution, or use of any kit, pamphlet, 
     booklet, public presentation, news release, radio, 
     television, or film presentation, video, or other written or 
     oral statement) that is intended to promote public support or 
     opposition to any legislative proposal (including the 
     confirmation of the nomination of a public official or the 
     ratification of a treaty) on which congressional action is 
     not complete.
       ``(b) Construction.--
       ``(1) Communications.--Subsection (a) shall not be 
     construed to prevent officers or employees of Federal 
     agencies from communicating directly to Members of Congress, 
     through the proper official channels, their requests for 
     legislation or appropriations that they deem necessary for 
     the efficient conduct of the public business or from 
     responding to requests for information made by Members of 
     Congress.
       ``(2) Officials.--Subsection (a) shall not be construed to 
     prevent the President, Vice President, any Federal agency 
     official whose appointment is confirmed by the Senate, any 
     official in the Executive Office of the President directly 
     appointed by the President or Vice President, or the head of 
     any Federal agency described in paragraph (2) or (3) of 
     subsection (d), from communicating with the American public, 
     through radio, television, or other public communication 
     media, on the views of the President for or against any 
     pending legislative proposal. The preceding sentence shall 
     not permit any such official to delegate to another person 
     the authority to make communications subject to the exemption 
     provided by such sentence.
       ``(c) Comptroller General.--
       ``(1) Assistance of inspector general.--In exercising the 
     authority provided in section 712, as applied to this 
     section, the Comptroller General may obtain, without 
     reimbursement from the Comptroller General, the assistance of 
     the Inspector General within whose Federal agency activity 
     prohibited by subsection (a) of this section is under review.
       ``(2) Evaluation.--One year after the date of the enactment 
     of this section, the Comptroller General shall report to the 
     Committee on Government Reform and Oversight of the House of 
     Representatives and the Committee on Governmental Affairs of 
     the Senate on the implementation of this section.
       ``(3) Annual report.--The Comptroller General shall, in the 
     annual report under section 719(a), include summaries of 
     investigations undertaken by the Comptroller General with 
     respect to subsection (a).
       ``(d) Definition.--For purpose of this section the term 
     `Federal agency' means--
       ``(1) any executive agency, within the meaning of section 
     105 of title 5; and
       ``(2) any private corporation created by a law of the 
     United States for which the Congress appropriates funds.''
       (b) Conforming Amendment.--The table of sections for 
     chapter 13 of title 31, United States Code, is amended by 
     inserting after the item relating to section 1353 the 
     following new item:

       ``1354. Prohibition on lobbying by Federal agencies.''
       ``(c) Applicability.--The amendments made by this section 
     shall apply to the use of funds after the date of the 
     enactment of this Act, including funds appropriated or 
     received on or before such date.


                             recorded vote

  The CHAIRMAN. A recorded vote has been demanded.
  A recorded vote was ordered.
  The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 190, 
noes 238, not voting 4, as follows:

                             [Roll No. 825]

                               AYES--190

     Allard
     Archer
     Armey
     Bachus
     Baker (CA)
     Ballenger
     Barr
     Barrett (NE)
     Bartlett
     Barton
     Bass
     Bereuter
     Bliley
     Boehner
     Bonilla
     Bono
     Brewster
     Bryant (TN)
     Bunn
     Bunning
     Burr
     Burton
     Buyer
     Callahan
     Camp
     Chabot
     Chambliss
     Chenoweth
     Christensen
     Chrysler
     Clinger
     Coble
     Coburn
     Collins (GA)
     Combest
     Condit
     Cooley
     Cox
     Crane
     Crapo
     Cremeans
     Cubin
     Cunningham
     de la Garza
     DeLay
     Dickey
     Doolittle
     Dornan
     Dreier
     Duncan
     Dunn
     Ehlers
     Ehrlich
     Emerson
     English
     Ensign
     Everett
     Ewing
     Fields (TX)
     Forbes
     Fox
     Franks (CT)
     Frisa
     Funderburk
     Gallegly
     Gekas
     Gillmor
     Gilman
     Goodling
     Gordon
     Green
     Greenwood
     Gutknecht
     Hall (TX)
     Hancock
     Hansen
     Hastert
     Hastings (WA)
     Hayes
     Hayworth
     Hefley
     Heineman
     Herger
     Hilleary
     Hobson
     Horn
     Hostettler
     Houghton
     Hunter
     Istook
     Jacobs
     Johnson (CT)
     Johnson, Sam
     Jones
     Kasich
     Kelly
     Kim
     Kingston
     Klug
     Knollenberg
     Largent
     Latham
     LaTourette
     Laughlin
     Lazio
     Lewis (CA)
     Lewis (KY)
     Lightfoot
     Linder
     Livingston
     LoBiondo
     Longley
     Lucas
     Manzullo
     McCrery
     McDade
     McHugh
     McInnis
     McIntosh
     McKeon
     McNulty
     Metcalf
     Mica
     Molinari
     Moorhead
     Myers

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     Myrick
     Nethercutt
     Neumann
     Ney
     Norwood
     Nussle
     Oxley
     Packard
     Parker
     Paxon
     Peterson (MN)
     Pombo
     Porter
     Portman
     Pryce
     Quillen
     Radanovich
     Ramstad
     Regula
     Riggs
     Roberts
     Rogers
     Rohrabacher
     Roth
     Royce
     Salmon
     Scarborough
     Schaefer
     Seastrand
     Shadegg
     Shuster
     Skeen
     Smith (MI)
     Solomon
     Souder
     Spence
     Stearns
     Stenholm
     Stockman
     Stump
     Talent
     Tanner
     Tate
     Tauzin
     Taylor (MS)
     Taylor (NC)
     Thomas
     Thornberry
     Tiahrt
     Traficant
     Upton
     Vucanovich
     Waldholtz
     Walker
     Wamp
     Watts (OK)
     Weldon (FL)
     Weldon (PA)
     Weller
     White
     Whitfield
     Wicker
     Young (AK)
     Zeliff

                               NOES--238

     Abercrombie
     Ackerman
     Andrews
     Baesler
     Baker (LA)
     Baldacci
     Barcia
     Barrett (WI)
     Bateman
     Becerra
     Beilenson
     Bentsen
     Berman
     Bevill
     Bilbray
     Bilirakis
     Bishop
     Blute
     Boehlert
     Bonior
     Borski
     Boucher
     Browder
     Brown (CA)
     Brown (FL)
     Brown (OH)
     Brownback
     Bryant (TX)
     Calvert
     Canady
     Cardin
     Castle
     Chapman
     Clay
     Clayton
     Clement
     Clyburn
     Coleman
     Collins (IL)
     Collins (MI)
     Conyers
     Costello
     Coyne
     Cramer
     Danner
     Davis
     Deal
     DeFazio
     DeLauro
     Dellums
     Deutsch
     Diaz-Balart
     Dicks
     Dingell
     Dixon
     Doggett
     Dooley
     Doyle
     Durbin
     Edwards
     Engel
     Eshoo
     Evans
     Farr
     Fattah
     Fawell
     Fazio
     Fields (LA)
     Filner
     Flake
     Flanagan
     Foglietta
     Foley
     Ford
     Frank (MA)
     Franks (NJ)
     Frelinghuysen
     Frost
     Furse
     Ganske
     Gejdenson
     Gephardt
     Geren
     Gibbons
     Gilchrest
     Gonzalez
     Goodlatte
     Goss
     Graham
     Gunderson
     Gutierrez
     Hall (OH)
     Hamilton
     Harman
     Hastings (FL)
     Hilliard
     Hinchey
     Hoekstra
     Hoke
     Holden
     Hoyer
     Hutchinson
     Hyde
     Inglis
     Jackson-Lee
     Jefferson
     Johnson (SD)
     Johnson, E.B.
     Johnston
     Kanjorski
     Kaptur
     Kennedy (MA)
     Kennedy (RI)
     Kennelly
     Kildee
     King
     Kleczka
     Klink
     Kolbe
     LaFalce
     LaHood
     Lantos
     Leach
     Levin
     Lewis (GA)
     Lincoln
     Lipinski
     Lofgren
     Lowey
     Luther
     Maloney
     Manton
     Markey
     Martinez
     Martini
     Mascara
     Matsui
     McCarthy
     McCollum
     McDermott
     McHale
     McKinney
     Meehan
     Meek
     Menendez
     Meyers
     Mfume
     Miller (CA)
     Miller (FL)
     Minge
     Mink
     Moakley
     Mollohan
     Montgomery
     Moran
     Morella
     Murtha
     Nadler
     Neal
     Oberstar
     Obey
     Olver
     Ortiz
     Orton
     Owens
     Pallone
     Pastor
     Payne (NJ)
     Payne (VA)
     Pelosi
     Peterson (FL)
     Petri
     Pickett
     Pomeroy
     Poshard
     Quinn
     Rahall
     Rangel
     Reed
     Richardson
     Rivers
     Roemer
     Ros-Lehtinen
     Rose
     Roukema
     Roybal-Allard
     Rush
     Sabo
     Sanders
     Sanford
     Sawyer
     Saxton
     Schiff
     Schroeder
     Schumer
     Scott
     Sensenbrenner
     Serrano
     Shaw
     Shays
     Sisisky
     Skaggs
     Skelton
     Slaughter
     Smith (NJ)
     Smith (TX)
     Smith (WA)
     Spratt
     Stark
     Stokes
     Studds
     Stupak
     Tejeda
     Thompson
     Thornton
     Thurman
     Torkildsen
     Torres
     Torricelli
     Towns
     Velazquez
     Vento
     Visclosky
     Walsh
     Ward
     Waters
     Watt (NC)
     Waxman
     Williams
     Wilson
     Wise
     Wolf
     Woolsey
     Wyden
     Wynn
     Yates
     Young (FL)
     Zimmer

                             NOT VOTING--4

     Fowler
     Hefner
     Tucker
     Volkmer

                              {time}  1926

  So the amendment was rejected.
  The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.


                      announcement by the chairman

  The CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to the order of the House of Thursday, 
November 16, 1995, the Chair announces that he will reduce to a minimum 
of 5 minutes the period of time within which a vote by electronic 
device may be taken on each additional amendment on which the Chair has 
postponed further proceedings.


            amendment offered by Mr. English of Pennsylvania

  The CHAIRMAN. The unfinished business is the demand for a recorded 
vote on the amendment offered by the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. 
English] on which further proceedings were postponed and on which the 
noes prevailed on voice vote.
  The Clerk will designate the amendment.
  The text of the amendment is as follows:

       Amendment offered by Mr. English of Pennsylvania: Page 39, 
     line 9, strike ``REPRESENTATIVE'' and insert ``OFFICIAL''.
       Page 39, line 13, strike ``or'' and insert a comma and in 
     line 14 insert before the close quotation marks a comma and 
     the following: ``Secretary of Commerce, or Commissioner of 
     the International Trade Commission''.
       Page 39, line 18 strike ``Appointment'' through 
     ``Representative'' in line 20 and insert ``Appointments.''
       Page 40, line 4, strike ``or as a'' and insert a comma and 
     insert before the first period in line 5 a comma and the 
     following: ``Secretary of Commerce, or Commissioner of the 
     International Trade Commission''.
       Page 40, line 8, strike ``or as a'' and insert a comma and 
     in line 9 insert before ``on'' a comma and the following: 
     ``Secretary of Commerce, or Commissioner of the International 
     Trade Commission''.


                             recorded vote

  The CHAIRMAN. A recorded vote has been demanded.
  A recorded vote was ordered.
  The CHAIRMAN. This will be a 5-minute vote.
  The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 204, 
noes 221, not voting 7, as follows:

                             [Roll No. 826]

                               AYES--204

     Abercrombie
     Allard
     Andrews
     Archer
     Armey
     Bachus
     Baker (CA)
     Baker (LA)
     Baldacci
     Ballenger
     Barcia
     Barr
     Barrett (NE)
     Bartlett
     Barton
     Bass
     Bereuter
     Bliley
     Boehlert
     Boehner
     Bono
     Boucher
     Brewster
     Bryant (TN)
     Bunn
     Bunning
     Burr
     Burton
     Buyer
     Callahan
     Calvert
     Camp
     Chabot
     Chambliss
     Christensen
     Chrysler
     Clinger
     Coble
     Coburn
     Collins (GA)
     Combest
     Condit
     Cooley
     Costello
     Cox
     Crane
     Cremeans
     Cubin
     Cunningham
     Danner
     DeFazio
     DeLay
     Dickey
     Doolittle
     Dornan
     Doyle
     Duncan
     Dunn
     Durbin
     Edwards
     Ehlers
     Emerson
     English
     Ensign
     Evans
     Everett
     Fields (LA)
     Fields (TX)
     Forbes
     Fox
     Franks (CT)
     Franks (NJ)
     Frisa
     Funderburk
     Gallegly
     Gekas
     Geren
     Gillmor
     Gilman
     Goodlatte
     Goodling
     Gordon
     Green
     Greenwood
     Gutknecht
     Hall (TX)
     Hancock
     Hastings (WA)
     Hayes
     Hayworth
     Hefley
     Heineman
     Herger
     Hilleary
     Hobson
     Horn
     Hostettler
     Hunter
     Istook
     Jacobs
     Johnson (CT)
     Johnson (SD)
     Johnson, Sam
     Jones
     Kasich
     Kelly
     Kim
     Kingston
     Klug
     Largent
     Latham
     LaTourette
     Laughlin
     Lazio
     Lewis (CA)
     Lewis (KY)
     Lightfoot
     Lincoln
     Lipinski
     LoBiondo
     Longley
     Lucas
     Mascara
     McCrery
     McDade
     McHugh
     McInnis
     McIntosh
     McKeon
     McNulty
     Menendez
     Metcalf
     Mica
     Molinari
     Moorhead
     Myers
     Myrick
     Nethercutt
     Neumann
     Ney
     Norwood
     Nussle
     Obey
     Oxley
     Packard
     Parker
     Paxon
     Peterson (MN)
     Pombo
     Portman
     Poshard
     Quillen
     Ramstad
     Reed
     Regula
     Roemer
     Rogers
     Rohrabacher
     Roth
     Royce
     Salmon
     Saxton
     Scarborough
     Schaefer
     Schumer
     Seastrand
     Shadegg
     Shuster
     Sisisky
     Skeen
     Skelton
     Smith (MI)
     Solomon
     Souder
     Stearns
     Stenholm
     Stockman
     Stump
     Talent
     Tanner
     Tate
     Tauzin
     Taylor (MS)
     Taylor (NC)
     Thomas
     Thornberry
     Thurman
     Tiahrt
     Torricelli
     Traficant
     Upton
     Visclosky
     Vucanovich
     Walker
     Wamp
     Watts (OK)
     Weldon (FL)
     Weldon (PA)
     Weller
     White
     Whitfield
     Wicker
     Young (AK)
     Zeliff

                               NOES--221

     Ackerman
     Baesler
     Barrett (WI)
     Becerra
     Beilenson
     Bentsen
     Berman
     Bevill
     Bilbray
     Bilirakis
     Bishop
     Blute
     Bonilla
     Bonior
     Borski
     Browder
     Brown (CA)
     Brown (FL)
     Brown (OH)
     Brownback
     Bryant (TX)
     Canady
     Cardin
     Castle
     Chapman
     Chenoweth
     Clay
     Clayton
     Clement
     Clyburn
     Coleman
     Collins (IL)
     Collins (MI)
     Conyers
     Coyne
     Cramer
     Crapo
     Davis
     de la Garza
     Deal
     DeLauro
     Dellums
     Deutsch
     Diaz-Balart
     Dicks
     Dingell
     Dixon
     Doggett
     Dooley
     Dreier
     Ehrlich
     Engel
     Eshoo
     Ewing
     Farr
     Fattah
     Fawell
     Fazio
     Filner
     Flake
     Flanagan
     Foglietta
     Foley
     Ford
     Frank (MA)
     Frelinghuysen
     Frost
     Furse
     Ganske
     Gejdenson
     Gephardt
     Gibbons
     Gilchrest
     Gonzalez
     Goss
     Graham
     Gunderson
     Gutierrez
     Hall (OH)
     Hamilton
     Hansen
     Harman
     Hastert
     Hastings (FL)
     Hilliard
     Hinchey
     Hoekstra
     Hoke
     Holden
     Houghton
     Hoyer
     Hutchinson
     Hyde
     Inglis
     Jackson-Lee
     Jefferson
     Johnson, E. B.
     Johnston
     Kanjorski
     Kaptur
     Kennedy (MA)
     Kennedy (RI)
     Kennelly
     Kildee
     King
     Kleczka
     Klink
     Knollenberg
     Kolbe
     LaFalce
     LaHood
     Lantos
     Leach
     Levin
     Lewis (GA)
     Linder
     Lofgren
     Lowey
     Luther
     Maloney
     Manton
     Manzullo
     Markey
     Martinez
     Martini
     Matsui
     McCarthy
     McCollum
     McDermott

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     McHale
     McKinney
     Meehan
     Meek
     Meyers
     Mfume
     Miller (CA)
     Miller (FL)
     Minge
     Mink
     Moakley
     Mollohan
     Montgomery
     Moran
     Morella
     Murtha
     Nadler
     Neal
     Oberstar
     Olver
     Ortiz
     Orton
     Owens
     Pallone
     Pastor
     Payne (NJ)
     Payne (VA)
     Pelosi
     Peterson (FL)
     Petri
     Pickett
     Pomeroy
     Porter
     Pryce
     Quinn
     Radanovich
     Rahall
     Rangel
     Richardson
     Riggs
     Rivers
     Roberts
     Ros-Lehtinen
     Rose
     Roukema
     Roybal-Allard
     Rush
     Sabo
     Sanford
     Sawyer
     Schiff
     Schroeder
     Scott
     Sensenbrenner
     Serrano
     Shaw
     Shays
     Skaggs
     Slaughter
     Smith (NJ)
     Smith (TX)
     Smith (WA)
     Spence
     Spratt
     Stark
     Stokes
     Studds
     Stupak
     Tejeda
     Thompson
     Thornton
     Torkildsen
     Torres
     Towns
     Velazquez
     Vento
     Waldholtz
     Walsh
     Ward
     Waters
     Watt (NC)
     Waxman
     Williams
     Wilson
     Wise
     Wolf
     Woolsey
     Wyden
     Wynn
     Yates
     Young (FL)
     Zimmer

                             NOT VOTING--7

     Bateman
     Fowler
     Hefner
     Livingston
     Sanders
     Tucker
     Volkmer

                              {time}  1934

  Mr. GUTIERREZ changed his vote from ``aye'' to ``no.''
  Mr. FRANKS of Connecticut changed his vote from ``no'' to ``aye.''
  So the amendment was rejected.
  The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.


                          personal explanation

  Mr. BATEMAN. Mr. Chairman, on rollcall No. 826, I was detained and 
missed the vote on the English amendment. Had I been present, I would 
have voted ``no.''


                    amendment offered by mr. weller

  The CHAIRMAN. The unfinished business is the demand for a recorded 
vote on the amendment offered by the gentleman from Illinois [Mr. 
Weller], on which further proceedings were postponed and on which the 
noes prevailed by voice vote.
  The Clerk will designate the amendment.
  The text of the amendment is as follows:

       Amendment offered by Mr. Weller: Page 21, line 9, strike 
     ``and'', in line 14 strike the period and insert ``; and'', 
     and after line 14 insert the following:
       (5) a report of honoraria (as defined in section 505(3) of 
     the Ethics in Government Act of 1978) paid to a media 
     organization or a media organization employee, including when 
     it was provided, to whom it was provided, and its value.

                             recorded vote

  The CHAIRMAN. A recorded vote has been demanded.
  A recorded vote was ordered.
  This is a 5-minute vote.
  The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 193, 
noes 233, not voting 6, as follows:

                             [Roll No. 827]

                               AYES--193

     Abercrombie
     Allard
     Archer
     Armey
     Baesler
     Baker (CA)
     Baker (LA)
     Ballenger
     Barr
     Bartlett
     Bass
     Bliley
     Boehner
     Bonilla
     Bono
     Boucher
     Brewster
     Bryant (TN)
     Bunn
     Bunning
     Burr
     Burton
     Buyer
     Callahan
     Camp
     Chambliss
     Chenoweth
     Christensen
     Chrysler
     Clay
     Clinger
     Coble
     Coburn
     Coleman
     Collins (GA)
     Collins (MI)
     Combest
     Condit
     Cooley
     Costello
     Cox
     Crane
     Crapo
     Cremeans
     Cubin
     Cunningham
     Danner
     de la Garza
     DeFazio
     DeLay
     Dickey
     Dingell
     Doolittle
     Dornan
     Doyle
     Duncan
     Durbin
     Edwards
     Ehlers
     Ehrlich
     Emerson
     English
     Eshoo
     Everett
     Ewing
     Farr
     Fields (LA)
     Fields (TX)
     Filner
     Forbes
     Fox
     Frisa
     Funderburk
     Gallegly
     Gillmor
     Gilman
     Goodling
     Graham
     Greenwood
     Gutierrez
     Hall (TX)
     Hancock
     Hansen
     Hastert
     Hastings (WA)
     Hayes
     Hefley
     Heineman
     Herger
     Hilleary
     Hobson
     Holden
     Horn
     Hostettler
     Hunter
     Istook
     Jacobs
     Johnson (SD)
     Johnson, Sam
     Jones
     Kanjorski
     Kelly
     Kingston
     Klink
     LaHood
     Largent
     Latham
     LaTourette
     Laughlin
     Lewis (CA)
     Lightfoot
     Lincoln
     Lipinski
     Longley
     Lucas
     Maloney
     Manton
     Manzullo
     Mascara
     McInnis
     McIntosh
     McKeon
     McNulty
     Metcalf
     Mica
     Miller (CA)
     Molinari
     Moorhead
     Murtha
     Myers
     Myrick
     Nethercutt
     Neumann
     Ney
     Norwood
     Nussle
     Obey
     Ortiz
     Oxley
     Packard
     Parker
     Pastor
     Paxon
     Pelosi
     Peterson (MN)
     Pombo
     Porter
     Poshard
     Quillen
     Radanovich
     Regula
     Rogers
     Rohrabacher
     Roth
     Salmon
     Schaefer
     Schumer
     Seastrand
     Shadegg
     Shuster
     Skeen
     Slaughter
     Smith (MI)
     Solomon
     Souder
     Stearns
     Stenholm
     Stockman
     Stokes
     Stump
     Tanner
     Tate
     Taylor (MS)
     Taylor (NC)
     Tejeda
     Thomas
     Thompson
     Tiahrt
     Torricelli
     Traficant
     Upton
     Visclosky
     Vucanovich
     Walker
     Wamp
     Watts (OK)
     Weldon (FL)
     Weldon (PA)
     Weller
     Whitfield
     Wicker
     Young (AK)
     Zeliff

                               NOES--233

     Ackerman
     Andrews
     Baldacci
     Barcia
     Barrett (NE)
     Barrett (WI)
     Barton
     Bateman
     Becerra
     Beilenson
     Bentsen
     Bereuter
     Berman
     Bevill
     Bilbray
     Bilirakis
     Bishop
     Blute
     Boehlert
     Bonior
     Borski
     Browder
     Brown (CA)
     Brown (FL)
     Brown (OH)
     Brownback
     Bryant (TX)
     Calvert
     Canady
     Cardin
     Castle
     Chabot
     Chapman
     Clayton
     Clement
     Clyburn
     Collins (IL)
     Conyers
     Coyne
     Cramer
     Davis
     Deal
     DeLauro
     Dellums
     Deutsch
     Diaz-Balart
     Dicks
     Dixon
     Doggett
     Dooley
     Dreier
     Dunn
     Engel
     Ensign
     Evans
     Fattah
     Fawell
     Fazio
     Flake
     Flanagan
     Foglietta
     Foley
     Ford
     Frank (MA)
     Franks (CT)
     Franks (NJ)
     Frelinghuysen
     Frost
     Furse
     Ganske
     Gejdenson
     Gekas
     Gephardt
     Geren
     Gibbons
     Gilchrest
     Gonzalez
     Goodlatte
     Gordon
     Goss
     Green
     Gunderson
     Gutknecht
     Hall (OH)
     Hamilton
     Harman
     Hastings (FL)
     Hayworth
     Hilliard
     Hinchey
     Hoekstra
     Hoke
     Houghton
     Hoyer
     Hutchinson
     Hyde
     Inglis
     Jackson-Lee
     Jefferson
     Johnson (CT)
     Johnson, E. B.
     Johnston
     Kaptur
     Kasich
     Kennedy (MA)
     Kennedy (RI)
     Kennelly
     Kildee
     Kim
     King
     Kleczka
     Klug
     Knollenberg
     Kolbe
     LaFalce
     Lantos
     Lazio
     Leach
     Levin
     Lewis (GA)
     Lewis (KY)
     Linder
     LoBiondo
     Lofgren
     Lowey
     Luther
     Markey
     Martinez
     Martini
     Matsui
     McCarthy
     McCollum
     McCrery
     McDade
     McDermott
     McHale
     McHugh
     McKinney
     Meehan
     Meek
     Menendez
     Meyers
     Mfume
     Miller (FL)
     Minge
     Mink
     Moakley
     Mollohan
     Montgomery
     Moran
     Morella
     Nadler
     Neal
     Oberstar
     Olver
     Orton
     Owens
     Pallone
     Payne (NJ)
     Payne (VA)
     Peterson (FL)
     Petri
     Pickett
     Pomeroy
     Portman
     Pryce
     Quinn
     Rahall
     Ramstad
     Rangel
     Reed
     Richardson
     Riggs
     Rivers
     Roberts
     Roemer
     Ros-Lehtinen
     Rose
     Roukema
     Roybal-Allard
     Royce
     Rush
     Sabo
     Sanders
     Sanford
     Sawyer
     Saxton
     Scarborough
     Schiff
     Schroeder
     Scott
     Sensenbrenner
     Serrano
     Shaw
     Shays
     Sisisky
     Skaggs
     Skelton
     Smith (NJ)
     Smith (TX)
     Smith (WA)
     Spence
     Spratt
     Stark
     Studds
     Stupak
     Talent
     Tauzin
     Thornberry
     Thornton
     Thurman
     Torkildsen
     Torres
     Towns
     Velazquez
     Vento
     Waldholtz
     Walsh
     Ward
     Waters
     Watt (NC)
     Waxman
     White
     Williams
     Wilson
     Wise
     Wolf
     Woolsey
     Wyden
     Wynn
     Yates
     Young (FL)
     Zimmer

                             NOT VOTING--6

     Bachus
     Fowler
     Hefner
     Livingston
     Tucker
     Volkmer

                              {time}  1941

  So the amendment was rejected.
  The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
  Mr. CANADY of Florida. Mr. Chairman, I move that the Committee do now 
rise.
  The motion was agreed to.
  Accordingly the Committee rose; and the Speaker pro tempore (Mr. 
Chrysler) having assumed the chair, Mr. Kolbe, Chairman of the 
Committee of the Whole House on the State of the Union, reported that 
that Committee, having had under consideration the bill (H.R. 2564) to 
provide for the disclosure of lobbying activities to influence the 
Federal Government, and for other purposes, had come to no resolution 
thereon.

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