[Congressional Record Volume 141, Number 184 (Saturday, November 18, 1995)]
[House]
[Pages H13325-H13333]
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         FURTHER CONTINUING APPRO- PRIATIONS, FISCAL YEAR 1996

  Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Speaker, I move to suspend the rules and pass the 
joint resolution (H.J. Res. 123), making further continuing 
appropriations for fiscal year 1996, and for other purposes.
  The Clerk read as follows:

                             H.J. Res. 123

       Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the 
     United States of America in Congress assembled, That the 
     following sums are hereby appropriated, out of any money in 
     the Treasury not otherwise appropriated, and out of 
     applicable corporate or other revenues, receipts, and funds, 
     for the several departments, agencies, corporations, and 
     other organizational units of Government for the fiscal year 
     1996, and for other purposes, namely:
       Sec. 101. (a) Such amounts as may be necessary under the 
     authority and conditions provided in the applicable 
     appropriations Acts for the fiscal year 1995 for continuing 
     the following projects or activities including the costs of 
     direct loans and loan guarantees (not otherwise specifically 
     provided for in this joint resolution) which were conducted 
     in the fiscal year 1995:
       (1) All projects and activities necessary to provide for 
     the expenses of Medicare contractors under title XVIII of the 
     Social Security Act under the account heading ``Program 
     management'' under the Health Care Financing Administration 
     in the Department of Health and Human Services.
       (2) All projects and activities funded under the account 
     heading ``Limitation on administrative expenses'' under the 
     Social Security Administration.
       (3) All projects and activities necessary to process and 
     provide for veterans compensation, pension payments, 
     dependency and indemnity compensation (DIC) payments, and to 
     provide for veterans medical care under the Department of 
     Veterans Affairs.
       (b) Whenever the amount which would be made available or 
     the authority which would be granted under an Act which 
     included funding for fiscal year 1996 for the projects and 
     activities listed in this section as passed by the House as 
     of October 1, 1995, is different from that which would be 
     available or granted under such Act as passed by the Senate 
     as of October 1, 1995, the pertinent project or activity 
     shall be continued at a rate for operations not exceeding the 
     average of the rates permitted by the action of the House or 
     the Senate under the authority and conditions provided in the 
     applicable appropriations Act for the fiscal year 1995.
       (c) Whenever an Act which included funding for fiscal year 
     1996 for the projects and activities listed in this section 
     has been passed by only the House or only the Senate as of 
     October 1, 1995, the pertinent project or activity shall be 
     continued under the appropriation, fund, or authority granted 
     by the one House at a rate for operations not exceeding the 
     current rate or the rate permitted by the action of the one 
     House, whichever is lower, and under the authority and 
     conditions provided in the applicable appropriations Act for 
     the fiscal year 1995.
       Sec. 102. Appropriations made by section 101 shall be 
     available to the extent and in the manner which would be 
     provided by the pertinent appropriations Act.

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       Sec. 103. No appropriations or funds made available or 
     authority granted pursuant to section 101 shall be used to 
     initiate or resume any project or activity for which 
     appropriations, funds, or other authority were not available 
     during the fiscal year 1995.
       Sec. 104. No provision which is included in an 
     appropriations Act enumerated in section 101 but which was 
     not included in the applicable appropriations Act for fiscal 
     year 1995 and which by its terms is applicable to more than 
     one appropriation, fund, or authority shall be applicable to 
     any appropriation, fund, or authority provided in this joint 
     resolution.
       Sec. 105. Unless otherwise provided for in this joint 
     resolution or in the applicable appropriations Act, 
     appropriations and funds made available and authority granted 
     pursuant to this joint resolution shall be available until 
     (a) enactment into law of an appropriation for any project or 
     activity provided for in this joint resolution, or (b) the 
     enactment of the applicable appropriations Act by both Houses 
     without any provision for such project or activity, or (c) 
     September 30, 1996, whichever first occurs.
       Sec. 106. Appropriations made and authority granted 
     pursuant to this joint resolution shall cover all obligations 
     or expenditures incurred for any program, project, or 
     activity during the period for which funds or authority for 
     such project or activity are available under this joint 
     resolution.
       Sec. 107. Expenditures made pursuant to this joint 
     resolution shall be charged to the applicable appropriation, 
     fund, or authorization whenever a bill in which such 
     applicable appropriation, fund, or authorization is contained 
     is enacted into law.
       Sec. 108. No provision in the appropriations Act for the 
     fiscal year 1996 referred to in section 101 of this joint 
     resolution that makes the availability of any appropriation 
     provided therein dependent upon the enactment of additional 
     authorizing or other legislation shall be effective before 
     the date set forth in section 105(c) of this joint 
     resolution.
       Sec. 109. Appropriations and funds made available by or 
     authority granted pursuant to this joint resolution may be 
     used without regard to the time limitations for submission 
     and approval of apportionments set forth in section 1513 of 
     title 31, United States Code, but nothing herein shall be 
     construed to waive any other provision of law governing the 
     apportionment of funds.


              request to amend house joint resolution 123

  Mr. EDWARDS. Mr. Speaker, in order to ensure that all military 
paychecks go out on time on December 1, I ask unanimous consent that 
the motion be amended to include an amendment in the joint resolution 
on page 2, after line 19, by adding the following new paragraph.
  Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Speaker, I object.
  Mr. DeLAY. Mr. Speaker, reserving the right to object.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Does the gentleman from Louisiana yield for 
the purpose of the unanimous-consent request?
  Mr. LIVINGSTON. No; I do not at this time, Mr. Speaker.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman does not yield.


              request to amend house joint resolution 123

  Mr. MONTGOMERY. Mr. Speaker, 30,000 young veterans did not get their 
GI bill checks this week to go to college. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous 
consent that the motion be amended to include an amendment in the joint 
resolution.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Does the gentleman from Louisiana yield for 
the purpose stated by the gentleman from Mississippi?
  Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Speaker, I do not yield at this time.


              request to amend house joint resolution 123

  Mr. OBEY. I would appreciate it if the gentleman would at least let 
me explain what it is I am doing.
  Mr. LIVINGSTON. Reserving the right to object, Mr. Speaker, I yield 
to the gentleman.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. First, the gentleman will state his 
unanimous-consent request.
  Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that the motion be 
amended to include language which would insert in this bill, in its 
proper place, the agreement on an entire CR that was offered to the 
Republican leadership of the Congress last night by the President of 
the United States.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Does the gentleman from Louisiana reserve 
the right to object?
  Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Speaker, at this point, I would object.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman objects.


              request to amend house joint resolution 123

  Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that the motion be 
amended in the joint resolution on page 2, after line 19, to permit all 
research projects and activities at the National Cancer Institute to 
continue.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Does the gentleman from Louisiana yield for 
that purpose?
  Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Speaker, I maintain an objection for reasons 
which I will state shortly.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman does not yield for that 
purpose.


              request to amend house joint resolution 123

  Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that the motion be 
amended to include an amendment in the joint resolution on page 2, 
after line 19, allowing all nursing homes safety and standards 
enforcement activities to continue.
  Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Speaker, I maintain an objection for reasons 
which I will describe shortly.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman does not yield for the purpose 
requested by the gentleman from Wisconsin.


              request to amend house joint resolution 123

  Mr. WILLIAMS. Mr. Speaker, in order to assure that America's great 
national parks remain open, I ask unanimous consent that the motion be 
amended to include an amendment in the joint resolution on page 2, 
after line 19, by adding the following new paragraph: All activities 
necessary to operate the national parks and monuments.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Does the gentleman from Louisiana yield for 
that purpose?
  Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Speaker, I maintain my objection for reasons 
which I will state shortly.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman does not yield.


              request to amend house joint resolution 123

  Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, I would ask unanimous consent that the motion 
be amended to include an amendment in the joint resolution on page 2, 
after line 19, allowing for the Gallaudet University and the National 
Technical Institute for the Deaf to be funded so that they might not 
have to close in 10 days.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Does the gentleman from Louisiana yield for 
the purpose requested by the gentleman from Wisconsin?
  Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Speaker, I maintain an objection for reasons 
which I will state shortly.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman does not yield.


                        parliamentary inquiries

  Mr. DeLAY. Mr. Speaker, parliamentary inquiry.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman will state it.
  Mr. DeLAY. Mr. Speaker, is it within the rules of the House to make a 
statement when we are making a unanimous-consent request? Is it regular 
order of the House?
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. When regular order is demanded, the Chair 
will ask whether or not the gentleman objects or yields for that 
purpose.
  Mr. DeLAY. Parliamentary inquiry, Mr. Speaker. Am I allowed to ask 
for regular order on unanimous consent requests?
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. That is correct. The gentleman is allowed to 
ask for regular order when there is a reservation.
  Mr. EDWARDS. Mr. Speaker, parliamentary inquiry.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman will state it.
  Mr. EDWARDS. Is a Member allowed to complete his or her unanimous-
consent request before being cutoff by any other Member of the House?
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. It is up to the gentleman making the motion 
to suspend the rules as to whether or not he yields for that request.
  Mr. EDWARDS. Mr. Speaker, in the process of asking the unanimous-
consent request, is it proper that a Member is cutoff before finishing 
the sentence, which is part of the unanimous consent request? When one 
is not making any editorial comment about the request, one is simply 
making the request, is it within the House rules to cut off Members 
from making that request?
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. It is Mr. Livingston's motion, and it is his 
prerogative to yield or not yield. He has 

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permitted all of these unanimous-consent requests to be stated and has 
then objected by refusing to yield. The gentleman is perfectly within 
his right.
  Mr. EDWARDS. So they can be objected to before we finish asking the 
unanimous-consent request?
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman does not have to yield at all.


              request to amend house joint resolution 123

  Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, one last unanimous-consent request.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Wisconsin [Mr. Obey].
  Mr. OBEY. I ask unanimous consent that on page 2, after line 19, that 
the resolution may be amended to allow the continuation of all projects 
and activities of the FBI and the Border Patrol and unemployment 
compensation benefits activities.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Does the gentleman from Louisiana yield for 
the purpose requested by the gentleman?
  Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Speaker, I maintain an objection for reasons 
which I will state shortly.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman does not yield for that 
purpose.
  Pursuant to the rule, the gentleman from Louisiana [Mr. Livingston] 
will be recognized for 20 minutes and the gentleman from Wisconsin [Mr. 
Obey] will be recognized for 20 minutes.
  The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Louisiana [Mr. Livingston].


                             general leave

  Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that all Members 
may have 5 legislative days in which to revise and extend their remarks 
on the joint resolution and that I may include tabular and extraneous 
material.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the request of the 
gentleman from Louisiana?
  There was no objection.
  Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may 
consume.
  (Mr. LIVINGTSON asked and was given permission to revise and extend 
his remarks.)
  Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to bring to the House this 
further continuing House Joint Resolution 123 that would provide 
spending authority for three important functions of our Government, 
while action on appropriations is proceeding.
  I think that it is significant, as I am sure the gentlemen who 
authored the alternative motions might agree, that most of the 
Government has been shut down since last Tuesday; however, we are 
seeing significant progress. The military construction bill has been 
signed into law by the President. The Agriculture bill has been signed 
into law by the President. The Energy and water bill has been signed 
into law by the President. The Transportation appropriations bill has 
been signed into law by the President.
  Today we have the agreement from the administration to sign the 
legislative branch appropriations bill and the Treasury-Postal Service 
appropriations bill.
  Likewise, the House and the Senate have now sent the National 
Security bill down to the President for his signature or his veto, 
whichever comes first.
  It is my great hope, Mr. Speaker, that he will sign that Defense 
bill, because I understand that the President has already indicated his 
intention to deploy as many as 25,000 troops to Bosnia.
  This House went on record just yesterday saying that it has not been 
inclined to support that effort, yet the President says he is not only 
going to send those troops to Bosnia; he says that he thinks that the 
Congress has appropriated too much for the Defense Department.
  Now, which is it, Mr. Speaker? Does the President intend to send 
troops to Bosnia, and if so, how does he intend to pay for them? If he 
does not intend to send the troops to Bosnia, how does he intend to pay 
for the Defense budget? And is he truly concerned about how the troops 
get paid?
  One of the issues that has been raised by one of the gentleman who 
stood up at the well here a few minutes ago was his concern that the 
troops be paid. This Congress in both the House and the Senate has 
completed the National Security appropriations bill. Under that bill, 
all of our troops will be paid.
  Now, if the President is concerned about the welfare of the troops 
that he intends be deployed into harm's way in Bosnia, he will sign 
that bill. He will sign that bill and our troops will be paid. As soon 
as he signs that bill, it will become law. However, if he vetoes that 
bill, he will be saying that not only does he intend to send troops to 
Bosnia to put them in harm's way, but he does not intend to pay them 
while they are there. Now, that is absolutely ludicrous.

  So I appreciate one of the gentlemen who stood up and said that he 
was concerned about the welfare of the troops, but I would urge him not 
to waste time with motions here on the floor and go to the President of 
the United States and say, Mr. President, you should sign that bill, 
sign that national defense bill.
  Now, Mr. Speaker, we all know how hard and how difficult this process 
has been in the last couple of weeks, but we also know how and why this 
has occurred. We also know that many activities of government can 
continue to operate under a determination that they are essential to 
maintaining the public health and safety, even though there is no 
funding authority for those activities which have not yet passed into 
law at this time.
  This continuing resolution would remove the uncertainty of certain 
continued operations for several critical Government functions, and I 
might add, this is the first shot. This is the first rifle shot. If, in 
fact, the Congress and the President of the United States cannot reach 
an agreement in the days ahead, there will be others, there will be 
other attempts to address specific functions, many of which may have 
been approached or suggested by the gentlemen that preceded me with 
those motions.
  Upon the enactment of this continuing resolution, however, these 
activities which I will describe shortly will be removed from any 
involvement in the ongoing budget situation. These activities will be 
able to maintain smooth, effective operations, and the people working 
on them will be able to be paid.
  Mr. Speaker, this continuing resolution provides funding rates at the 
average levels of the House and Senate fiscal year 1996 regular bills 
until the end of the fiscal year or until the regular bill is signed 
into law, whichever is first, for the following items.
  Let me say, the last CR that will be sent down to the President--in 
fact, the last two CR's that have been sent down to the President--
called for a level at the lower of the House or Senate 1995 levels. 
This continuing resolution calls for the average of the House and 
Senate or the House and last year. So this is less restrictive than the 
continuing resolutions have been for these specific functions of 
Government.
  First, all expenses of Medicare contractors to determine claims and 
to pay individuals and hospitals; second, all administrative expenses 
of the Social Security Administration to pay benefits and to process 
claims; third, all expenses to provide for veterans' compensation, 
pensions and medical care, including paying benefits and processing 
claims.
  Mr. Speaker, several of these activities, the Social Security 
Administration and Medicare, are directly linked to trust fund 
activities for which the funding has already been collected, and the 
authority to administer these activities needs to be granted and to not 
involve appropriations from the general fund.
  The other one, the veterans' compensation and pensions section, is an 
appropriated entitlement and, as such, these benefits are required by 
law.
  These are all extremely important functions, as are some of the 
functions that have been detailed by the gentlemen that preceded me in 
their motions. These are very, very important, and they need to 
continue, even though we have currently found ourselves at a budget 
impasse.

  Let me say, Mr. Speaker, that the budget impasse can be over today. 
The President could sign on to a 7-year balanced budget agreement 
whereby the scoring of the numbers would be performed by the 
Congressional Budget Office. He could sign on to that today and this 
impasse would be over.
  He has even said that he was for a 5-year balanced budget, a 10-year 
balanced budget, a 9-year balanced budget, a 7-year balanced budget, an 
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that he was not for a balanced budget at all. In fact, his most 
detailed presentation of a balanced budget, notwithstanding the 
incredibly high levy of taxes that he imposed on the American people 2 
years ago, the most important detailed budget that he has provided to 
the people of America was last February when he gave us a budget that 
called for $200 billion in deficits, this year, next year, the year 
after that, the year after that and as far as the eye can see.

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  The President, of course, we know, has been on all sides of this 
issue.
  We call on him to say, OK, focus your attention, Mr. President, on a 
balanced budget, within 7 years, gives you plenty of time.
  Let us work together toward a balanced budget, within 7 years, let us 
agree on it today, and the rest of this budget impasse will be totally 
and absolutely irrelevant and unnecessary, because we can fund all of 
the functions of government, not just the emergency functions, not just 
the most essential, not just the most important, we can fund all of 
Government on a glide path toward a balanced budget by the year 2002.
  Well, Mr. Speaker, we are here with this rifle shot on these very 
important issues because we are not so sure that is going to happen. We 
think the President just may not meet us halfway and may not see the 
opportunity to agree on a 7-year balanced budget. I cannot explain why 
not, because if it does not happen, we want these three functions of 
government funded.
  When these other gentlemen stand up and talk about these other 
functions of government, we want them funded, too. We would like to get 
the whole Government funded, and the President has it within his hands 
and his opportunity to make sure that that happens. But if it does not 
happen, we will approach, we will consider each one of the other issues 
that were raised a little while ago.
  But right now we want to handle these three issues. We want to make 
sure that these go into law and that the people who need the Medicare 
contractors to determine claims and pay individuals and hospitals, the 
administration expenses of the Social Security Administration to pay 
benefits and process claims, and the people that need veterans' 
compensation benefits and medical care, including benefits and 
processing of claims, the people that need those will get attended to 
without regard to this budget impasse.
  I think that this is a good start toward resolving a temporary crisis 
in certain key areas of government. Let us pass this continuing 
resolution and go on to other things.
  Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from 
Maryland [Mr. Hoyer].
  Mr. HOYER. I thank the gentleman from Wisconsin [Mr. Obey] for 
yielding me the time.
  Mr. Speaker, this resolution points up the politics of what we are 
doing. This resolution points up that we are playing a political game 
and 800,000 people are not working because of that game.
  Hopefully we will pass 2 bills that will put 200,000 of them back and 
send it down to the White House. We have been hearing on this floor 
that the only reason that a resolution should be passed and signed by 
the President is to make sure that we have a balanced budget. That is 
the critical issue, that is the critical issue of the day.
  Guess what? This resolution is a clean resolution. Very easy to do. 
We ought to do it for all of Government.
  The chairman says he wants to see Government, the whole Government, 
funded. That is what the chairman just said. I quoted it and wrote it 
down. I am glad to hear that and I think he does.
  If you read these pages, there is not one word in here about a 
balanced budget. Why? Because this is not the bill on which we will 
establish the balanced budget, any more than a continuing appropriation 
for the entire Government will be. That will be on the reconciliation 
bill.
  And guess what? That bill was pulled today. That bill was taken off 
the calendar today. It was supposed to be considered. That is the bill 
that establishes.
  Not only that, we hear on the CR that we will go to December 3. But, 
guess what? For these objectives, which I will support and are very 
important for our veterans, those receiving Medicare and Social 
Security, they, my friends, will go to the end of the year. Is that not 
a nice political decision?
  But very frankly private contractors who are working for Government 
and whose employees are out in the street are not going to get paid 
next week, or maybe the week thereafter.
  Guess what? This goes to the end of the year. We are not arguing 
about any date. And guess what even further, folks? We are talking 
about funding levels, the lower of this, the lower of that and that is 
why we cannot send a CR down that the President will sign? Average of 
the two.
  Let me tell you, ladies and gentlemen, the American public knows we 
are playing games and they are blaming all of us.
  If we pass this continuing resolution and said do all of Government 
under these terms, I guarantee you the President would sign this bill.
  Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the distinguished 
gentleman from Mississippi [Mr. Montgomery], the ranking Democrat on 
the Committee on Veterans' Affairs.
  (Mr. MONTGOMERY asked and was given permission to revise and extend 
his remarks.)
  Mr. MONTGOMERY. I thank the gentleman from Wisconsin for yielding me 
this time.
  Mr. Speaker, I am going to support this resolution. It protects the 
veterans' compensation and pension recipients so they will receive 
their checks on time, and that is 3 million veterans and survivors who 
have earned these checks. I wish this resolution would have included 
educational benefits for young veterans going to college.
  Mr. Speaker, 30,000 veterans did not get their checks this last week. 
Thirty thousand will not get their checks next week.
  I did not get the chance to even explain my unanimous-consent 
request; it was to protect these educational benefits so that 350,000 
veterans can get their benefits for the rest of the year. They are not 
going to be able to stay in school, Mr. Speaker, if we do not provide 
funds so the VA can pay these benefits.
  If there is another continuing appropriation, which I heard the 
chairman say may occur, I hope the GI bill checks will be included.
  Also, Mr. Speaker, this resolution should have included insurance 
payments to survivors whose loved ones died. Three thousand five 
hundred of these checks were supposed to go to survivors of persons who 
had veterans' life insurance last week. Some of them gave a lot of 
their life to the service, and their survivors cannot get these 
benefits because the VA appropriation bill has not been signed. I hope 
that the next continuing appropriations will include these items.
  Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the distinguished 
gentleman from Texas [Mr. Edwards], a member of the Committee on 
National Security.
  Mr. EDWARDS. Mr. Speaker, 11 words, 5 seconds. Eleven words, 5 
seconds. Today with 11 words and 5 seconds this House could have sent a 
message to every military man and woman serving his or her country, 
whether they are in the United States or in the cold land of Korea that 
you will get your paycheck on December 1--five seconds it would have 
taken.
  The words I was not allowed to say were simply to add with unanimous 
consent, that I had hoped would happen, all Department of Defense 
activities directly related to providing military pay.
  That would have taken care of our military families on their December 
1 paycheck.
  The distinguished chairman of the Committee on Appropriations said, 
quote, we should not waste time on this unanimous-consent request today 
on the floor of the House.
  I would suggest that 5 seconds is not too much to ask to send a clear 
message to our military families that they are going to get their 
paychecks on time on December 1.
  The gentleman can make a point and point the finger at the President, 
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he should sign the appropriations bill. That is his right. I think the 
President should sign the bill.
  But there are some important issues there. The B-2 bomber, the 
antiballistic missile defense system, issues that Republicans in this 
House fought over that the President has the right to consider.
  All I am pleading with to the gentleman is that let us take 5 seconds 
today, let us not fingerpoint. I can point finger at the Republicans, 
you can point your finger at the President. But I am not interested in 
pointing fingers. I am interested in paying the military families of 
this country on time on December 1.
  Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from 
Florida [Mr. Young], the distinguished chairman of the Subcommittee on 
National Security.
  Mr. Speaker, I would ask him to yield to me for one comment.
  Mr. YOUNG of Florida. I yield to the gentleman from Louisiana.
  Mr. LIVINGSTON. I appreciate the gentleman yielding.
  Mr. Speaker, I just want to say, I did not say that we did not have 
time. I just objected to the gentleman's motion because it was 
extraneous for the purpose for which we are here today.
  Mr. YOUNG of Florida. I thank the chairman very much.
  I would like to say, Mr. Speaker, the previous speaker said that 11 
words could solve this problem and he and I both share the same goal. 
We want these people in uniform, their families, and the civilians that 
work for the Department of Defense as well as the other departments to 
get their paycheck, because a lot of them are not going to be able to 
make their mortgage payments and their car payments and their insurance 
payments and their credit card payments and their grocery bills. It is 
not fair that these innocent people are caught up in this. But I want 
to say in all sincerity to my distinguished friend who just spoke, 
there are two words that can solve this problem, and solve it today, 
and those two words are William Clinton. Sign that bill that provides 
the appropriations for the Department of Defense, that was passed by 
this House in a strong bipartisan vote, that was passed by the Senate 
in a strong bipartisan vote. President Clinton ought to sign this bill.
  Here is something that maybe his advisers have not told him. That 
nearly half of the money in the Defense appropriations bill that he 
wants to veto, nearly half of that money goes for salaries and housing 
allowances and medical care, quality of life issues for the people that 
serve in the military and who work as civilians for the Department of 
Defense. It is not all big procurement and big spending on industry. It 
is for the people that are ready to risk their lives to protect freedom 
and to protect this Nation.
  If there are things in the bill that the President does not like, 
listen to this closely, very closely. If the President thinks we funded 
items in this appropriations bill that he does not like, he can send us 
a rescission bill, or he can send us a reprogramming. He has plenty of 
room to work with the Congress, and we have tried to work with him in a 
bipartisan fashion on national defense.
  There is nothing in this argument about Medicare or Medicaid, tax 
increases or tax reductions, balanced budgets or anything else other 
than providing for the national defense and the quality of life for 
those who serve in our military.
  What are some of the things that the President did not ask for and he 
is unhappy because we included them, anyway? We gave him $647 million 
to pay for the contingency in Iraq that he decided to send American 
troops to. We provided the money to pay for that. What is wrong with 
that? That is up front, that is pay-as-you-go.
  Barracks repair. We provided money to repair barracks that are in 
tragic condition. He did not ask for it. We provided it, anyway.
  Training shortfalls because of other contingencies that the President 
spent money on around the world. We provided the money to replace that.
  Breast cancer research, we added that. He did not ask for it. But if 
he does not like any of these, he can send us a rescission bill.
  So two words, William Clinton, will solve this problem with 
everything relating to the national Defense Establishment.
  Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 20 seconds.
  The fact is we have still not heard from that side of the aisle one 
reason why you could not have included these other items including 
military pay. The fact is you are insisting that in order for the 
military to be guaranteed they are going to be getting their pay that 
he ought to sign a bill which makes him spend $7 billion more than he 
wanted to, which makes him buy 40 B-2s rather than the 20 the Pentagon 
wanted, and you are holding him hostage for that. That is nonsense.

                              {time}  1400

  Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the distinguished 
gentleman from Arkansas [Mr. Hutchinson].
  Mr. HUTCHINSON. Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong support of this 
continuing resolution. It is critical for our Nation's veterans.
  The chairman of the Subcommittee on Hospitals and Health Care and I 
are vitally interested in their welfare.
  The 2.2 million veterans receiving compensation for service-connected 
disabilities will know their checks will arrive on time when we do this 
today. The 308,000 widows, children, and other survivors of veterans 
who have died of service-connected disabilities will receive their 
checks on time this December when we pass this continuing resolution. 
The 450,000 veterans who served during wartime receiving pensions will 
get their checks on time when we pass this resolution. It is very, very 
important.
  It also provides that needed medical care and services will be 
available to our veterans and our veterans' hospitals.
  I agree with the gentleman from Mississippi [Mr. Montgomery], the 
distinguished gentleman, I wish the GI bill had been included in this. 
I hope that can be taken care of quickly. Because that is not in here 
does not mean we should not go ahead and take care of these veterans.

  One of the very sad chapters in this whole dispute over veterans has 
been the politicizing of the VA, Veterans' Administration, by the 
Secretary, I believe, in scaring veterans, in causing them to believe 
they are not going to get those checks.
  There is a legal dispute as to whether or not the President could 
have done it. Let us make certain, let us reassure our veterans today 
this Congress cares about them and that we are going to ensure that 
they are protected.
  Our veterans have already sacrificed. We need not ask them to 
sacrifice again. The President could have solved this easily with the 
stroke of his pen, I think, a very clean CR with only the commitment to 
the 7-year balanced budget with real numbers.
  This is not a silly spat as some have suggested. This is a serious 
debate over serious issues confronting our country.
  But let us not let those most vulnerable suffer the pain. Let us 
mitigate it where we can. We will do that by the passage of this CR 
today.
  Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 5 seconds.
  If you want to guarantee that pay, accept the 11 words of the 
gentleman from Texas [Mr. Edwards]. That is the way to do it.
  Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the distinguished gentleman from 
West Virginia [Mr. Mollohan], the ranking Democrat on the State-
Justice-Commerce Appropriations Subcommittee.
  Mr. MOLLOHAN. Mr. Speaker, I thank the ranking member of the 
Committee on Appropriations for yielding me this time.
  Mr. Speaker, I have opposed the two recently passed continuing 
resolutions. I oppose them for fundamentally the same reason that the 
President is forced to be in opposition.
  It is really very simple. They are not clean. Tacked on to them are 
requirements to negotiate upon terms that the gentleman from Georgia 
[Mr. Gingrich] is proposing: a 7-year balanced budget period, along 
with offensive economic assumptions.
  Mr. Speaker, the reason that is offensive to the President, the 
reason that that is offensive, is because it requires cutting too 
deeply programs that are particularly important to the President, like 
cuts in Medicare, Medicaid, education, and veterans.

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  With regard to the limited continuing resolution before us today, Mr. 
Speaker, several minutes ago the distinguished ranking minority member 
of the Committee on Appropriations moved a unanimous consent request 
that: All projects and activities of the Federal Bureau of 
Investigation and the Drug Enforcement Administration and the Border 
Patrol be included. Mr. Speaker, that unanimous consent request was not 
accepted.
  Although law enforcement agencies have been granted a general 
exemption from the governmentwide furlough, there are a significant 
number of FBI and DEA agents who are not working. According to the 
Department of Justice, approximately 25 percent of the FBI and the DEA 
personnel have been furloughed. This equates to approximately 25,000 
people, Mr. Speaker, who are not currently functioning in our front-
line law enforcement agencies.
  The granting of this request would have enabled these people to 
return to work and thereby ensure that 100 percent of our law 
enforcement personnel would be on this job at this time.
  While I am not aware, as I have indicated earlier, Mr. Speaker, the 
law enforcement officials on the front line are not at work, we need a 
team out there, and it is too bad that the continuing resolution could 
not have included these critical functions.
  Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from 
Montana [Mr. Williams].
  Mr. WILLIAMS. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding me this 
time.
  Just a few minutes ago I attempted under a unanimous consent to offer 
a unanimous-consent amendment that would have, within this bill, opened 
America's national parks. Now, I did not do that to embarrass anybody. 
I did not do that to embarrass our colleagues and friends on the 
Republican side. I did it to open America's national parks.
  Today there are hundreds of thousands of citizens on vacation. They 
wanted to go into one of our national parks facilities. On an average 
day in the United States, 726,000 Americans are visiting a national 
park facility. Those facilities are closed. If my simple unanimous-
consent request had been honored, those facilities could be opened very 
soon.
  Some people have said to me, ``Well, Pat, you are from Montana. It's 
snowing out there. Your parks, like Yellowstone and Glacier are closed 
in the winter.'' No, they are not. They are winter wonderlands. 
Yellowstone is open. Many hundreds of thousands of people go to see 
Yellowstone in the winter. Large parts of Glacier are open.
  But there is another point along with the tourists, and that is our 
national parks are in trouble, and the people that take care of them 
have been ruled to not be all that essential in the work force. For 
example, we just, the Federal Government, has just brought wolves into 
Yellowstone National Park. Those wolves are to be collared and 
monitored. That is not happening.
  As Americans know, there is mineral development going on right on the 
perimeter of Yellowstone National Park. The National Park Service is 
working daily to try to protect the park. That is not happening now. 
These parks are threatened. They could have been included, the opening 
of them, in this resolution.
  Again, I want to assure my colleagues I did not do it to embarrass 
anybody. I did it to get the national parks open, and I am sorry my 
Republican colleagues prevented me from opening the national parks.
  Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 30 seconds. If the 
gentleman would remain at the podium, I would like to pose a question 
to him. The gentleman is aware that the Interior appropriations bill 
has been on the floor twice. May I inquire how the gentleman voted on 
the motion to recommit on both of those?
  Mr. WILLIAMS. If the gentleman will yield, because I voted not to 
move the Interior bill through, I offered my unanimous-consent request 
today, and the gentleman objected to it.
  Mr. LIVINGSTON. The gentleman has voted not to open the parks twice 
before today.
  Mr. WILLIAMS. And you objected to my unanimous-consent request to do 
it.
  Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the distinguished 
gentleman from Maryland [Mr. Wynn].
  Mr. WYNN. Mr. Speaker, under this bill, veterans' checks, Social 
Security checks, Medicare checks will go out. That is fine.
  But the important thing is this bill illustrates the game that is 
being played on the American public.
  Because you see, this bill is what is called a clean continuing 
resolution. It has no conditions. It has no time limits. There is 
nothing but the ability to continue running these essential programs, 
and there is a reason for that, because they know that the outcry over 
these programs would be so great if those checks did not arrive that it 
would overwhelm them.
  So, meanwhile, folks at NIH, National Institutes of Health, who are 
doing cancer research are not at work. Folks at NASA are not at work. 
The national parks are closed. The District of Columbia government is 
closed. The GI bill checks are not arriving, and FBI agents are not 
working. That is not fair. That is not right. And that is not 
necessary.
  We should have a clean continuing resolution. The Republicans should 
stop playing this game, this silly charade. We can have a clean CR and 
put the entire Government back to work.
  Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the distinguished 
gentleman from Illinois [Mr. Durbin].
  Mr. DURBIN. Mr. Speaker, could I ask the chairman of the committee to 
answer a question? Would the chairman of the committee, in a spirit of 
bipartisanship, join with me in a unanimous consent request that as of 
Monday morning we open up and continue the research at the National 
Cancer Institutes to look for cures for cancer and for AIDS? Will the 
gentleman agree to that unanimous-consent in this bill?
  Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
  Mr. DURBIN. I yield to the gentleman from Louisiana.
  Mr. LIVINGSTON. The gentleman will not agree to the unanimous-consent 
at this time. However, he may at some time in the future.
  Mr. DURBIN. I hope it is soon. Think about that, ladies and 
gentlemen.
  Can we possibly be debating whether researchers at the National 
Cancer Institute should be on the job Monday? You know, we can count 
the phone calls when people call and say they are upset because they 
did not get their Social Security checks, they did not get their 
veterans' checks. It is that kind of political pressure which has 
resulted in this very measure that we are considering.
  How can we measure the loss to this Nation if the research, the 
medical research which we count on to find cures for diseases to 
alleviate the death and suffering in America is not taking place? That 
is what is at stake in this debate. That is why it goes far beyond 
whether the gentleman from Georgia [Mr. Gingrich] gets an appropriate 
seat on Air Force One, whether or not the President has his exact 
language.
  What we have at stake here are 700,000 Federal employees sitting home 
without pay while Members of Congress still receive their paychecks. 
That is an outrage.
  What we need to hear are the voices of the American people who are 
sick and tired of this political charade. To think that we would even 
debate whether or not the researchers will come to work on Monday to 
proceed at the National Cancer Institute to look for cures for cancer, 
that is shameful.
  I sincerely hope both political parties take a look in a mirror or at 
the image we are projecting to the United States. The political 
pettiness behind this debate has reached Olympic standards.
  Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the distinguished 
gentleman from Virginia [Mr. Wolf], a member of the committee, the 
chairman of the Subcommittee on Transportation.
  Mr. WOLF. I thank the gentleman.
  Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
  Mr. WOLF. I yield to the gentleman from Louisiana.
  Mr. LIVINGSTON. I know the gentleman is aware that the Labor-Health 
and Human Services bill, in which cancer research is funded, has been 
stifled in the Senate by the preceding speaker's party member over in 
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Party in the Senate. That is why the research bill has not gone through 
the House.
  Mr. WOLF. Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of the resolution. I am for 
a balanced budget by the year 2002.
  But let me bring it back to something that people are concerned about 
around the country, and that is the pay issue. I want to read a letter 
that I received from Speaker Gingrich. I want to read it slowly and 
also from Majority Leader Bob Dole.
  He said: ``Dear Frank,'' and my name is Frank.

       We will be sending soon to President Clinton a bill to 
     continue funding for the federal government through December 
     1, 1995. Besides providing for government services, this bill 
     also funds federal workers' salaries.
       If the President decides to veto this vital legislation to 
     keep government operating, the possibility exists that some 
     federal works may be furloughed. In the event that this takes 
     place, it is our commitment that federal employees will not 
     be punished as a direct result of the President's decision to 
     veto funding for their salaries. Should this happen, we are 
     committed to restoring any lost wages in a subsequent funding 
     bill.
       Again, we want to reassure you that if the President vetoes 
     the continuing resolution and requires federal workers to be 
     furloughed, we are committed to restoring any lost wages 
     retroactively.

  I want to say this: A promise made is a promise kept. There has been 
a promise made. There has been a commitment made. And we are obligated 
to keep it. I expect it to be kept.
  I believe it will be kept because it must be kept.
  Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield 30 seconds to the gentleman from Texas 
[Mr. Doggett].
  Mr. DOGGETT. What you have just read is a letter from Speaker 
Gingrich saying that every one of these employees, including all the 
ones that Members on your side of the aisle have said probably were 
really nonessential truly anyway, you are going to pay every one of 
them every penny they would have earned had they been on the job. And 
so my only question to you is: If you are going to pay them anyway, the 
American taxpayer has to foot the bill, why will you not let them work?
  Mr. WOLF. They should be back, and I will tell the gentleman, the 
administration's definition of essential and nonessential really does 
not make any sense.
  Mr. DOGGETT. That begs the question. You are paying these people not 
to work when they ought to be working.

                              {time}  1415

  Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield one minute and five seconds to the 
gentleman from Missouri [Mr. Volkmer].
  (Mr. VOLKMER asked and was given permission to revise and extend his 
remarks.)
  Mr. VOLKMER. Mr. Speaker, while you all were debating here all 
through this day, I was at my home taking care of my wife, but I was 
kind of following everything going on here. I heard some Members get in 
this well talk about compromise and say we need to work toward a 
compromise. I remember the gentleman from Indiana saying that.
  But during one of the votes that we had here, CNN put on a little 
transposition of a press conference this morning that the leader from 
the Senate, from Kansas, and the Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich, 
had this morning. And what did Newt Gingrich say about it, about the CR 
that we should be passing instead of this little one? No compromise. No 
compromise. No compromise. Those are his words, his language. That is 
just what he said. Senator Dole differed a little bit. He said, ``You 
are not speaking for me.''
  Mr. Speaker, there is no question that I know that why we are here 
today was a deliberative act on the Speaker's part to show down the 
government in order to try to get his budget through.
  Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield 30 seconds to the gentleman from 
Virginia [Mr. Moran].
  Mr. MORAN. Mr. Speaker, it has now been a week. I appreciate the fact 
that the Speaker has committed to pay everyone who is not working, but 
are we committed to pay $1 billion for no work performance? The most 
commonsense thing to do is to include everyone in this bill we are 
passing now. Put them back to work, because they are getting paid 
anyway. Then take the lowest of the House or the Senate or the 
President's budget. That is the most commonsense thing to do. We ought 
to start acting with commonsense.
  Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Speaker, I yield 30 seconds to the gentleman from 
California [Mr. Thomas].
  Mr. THOMAS. Mr. Speaker, the gentleman from Illinois indicated that 
we should fund cancer research. I think the record should really show 
he voted against the CR and his President vetoed the CR that would have 
allowed cancer drugs for real cancer patients that are not now paid for 
by Medicare. It would have been breast tumors and it would have been 
prostate cancer. So everyone needs to understand his statements with 
cancer research were done for political reasons. He voted against drugs 
to help real research patients.
  Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Speaker, I yield 15 seconds to the gentleman from 
Indiana [Mr. Burton].
  Mr. BURTON of Indiana. Mr. Speaker, what Speaker Gingrich said this 
morning on CNN, and I watched it very carefully, he said everything was 
on the table except one thing, and that was that we have to have a 
balanced budget in 7 years scored by CBO. That is it. He did not say 
there was no compromise.
  Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from 
California [Mr. Horn].
  Mr. HORN. Mr. Speaker, not only are Government workers affected, so 
are those in private industry. Last night I learned that nationwide 
inspectors of the Department of Defense had been pulled from various 
projects. That happens to include the C-17. Twenty-two world records 
are held by that Globemaster cargo plane.
  Now, what this means is a setback in defense production. There is no 
question, if the President does not sign a commonsense resolution, 7 
years to balance the budget and to use CBO, he will not only be putting 
out of work Government workers, who will be paid, he will be putting 
out of work union and nonunion workers who will not be paid.
  Mr. Speaker, I suggest that the President wake up and start thinking 
about the implications of his lack to come to the table and deal with 
this issue.
  Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself the balance of my time.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Emerson). The gentleman from Wisconsin 
is recognized for 4\1/2\ minutes.
  Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, this proposition is what I would call the I-
can't-take-the-heat amendment. What has happened, and I have turned 
this chart on its side so that people can see it from a little 
different perspective, what has happened is that so far four 
appropriation bills have been passed by the Congress. The White House 
has asked that the Congress send the additional two which are ready to 
be sent up to the White House up to the White House so they can sign 
them.
  That will still leave over 80 percent of the Government unfunded on 
the appropriations side, not because the President did not sign any 
bills, but because the Congress has not sent them to him yet. I do not 
know how the President can be expected to sign bills that have not 
gotten to him yet.
  Then, because of this huge performance gap in this Congress, what the 
Speaker and his allies are doing is saying: OK, Mr. President, because 
we have not done our work, we are going to see to it that these 
hundreds of thousands of Federal workers do not report to their jobs 
until you agree to blackmail, and until you agree to take our 
negotiating position on another piece of legislation.
  Mr. Speaker, it is obvious that Members on the Republican side of the 
aisle are feeling the heat, and so what they have done is produce what 
I consider to be essentially a political document. They say: Well, 
Social Security is a hot button, so, all right, we will let Social 
Security go. VA is a hot button, so we are going to let VA go. Medicare 
is a hot button, so we are going to let some of the activities in 
Medicare go.
  That is, as the gentleman from Maryland [Mr. Hoyer], has said, a good 
political decision. But the right substantive position is to let all of 
those programs go, and let the entire Government function while we work 
out our differences on the other piece of legislation which is not even 
supposed to be involved in this fight.
  Now, last night the President's representatives made a reasonable 
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the Senate, and Mr. Gingrich turned it down. Now Mr. Gingrich and his 
allies are saying it is not negotiable; we must have a 7-year balanced 
budget, on CBO guidelines.
  The President is simply saying: I would like to see a balanced 
budget. But if you fellows are going to insist on whacking Medicare, 
and if you are going to insist on whacking Medicaid, if you are going 
to insist on smashing opportunity for kids who are trying to go to 
college, and if you are going to insist on a huge tax cut, than you 
cannot responsibly get there in 7 years, and so we may have to talk 
about a different timeline.
  Because of that rational difference, you are saying we are going to 
hold up the entire Federal Government. I think this performance has 
been absolutely, incredibly, incredibly disgraceful.
  I would simply like to say this: When the American people voted to 
put you folks in charge in November, I think what they thought they 
were doing is that they were going to force both parties to work 
together. I think they thought they would end gridlock by putting both 
parties in charge of opposite branches of Government so that we had to 
work together.
  Instead, what we are getting is a very different record. I will 
repeat what I said on the floor last week: When I chaired this 
committee last year, all 13 of these appropriation bills were passed on 
time, they were signed by the President, there was no need for a 
continuing resolution, not a single Government worker was held out of 
work.
  Do you know why? Because I had a Speaker who allowed me to cross the 
aisle and talk to the ranking Republican and say ``Let's work this out 
on a bipartisan basis.'' That is exactly what we did, and because we 
had a bipartisan, functioning House, we were able to get that done.
  The reason that has not happened this year and we have this 
performance gap is that we have a different kind of Speaker. We are not 
going to have a different Speaker, but we had better get a different 
attitude out of him if this country is going to survive this petty food 
fight which he has started and insisted on keeping going.
  Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself the balance of my time.
  (Mr. LIVINGSTON asked and was given permission to revise and extend 
his remarks.)
  Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Speaker, we have witnessed an interesting 
spectacle today. It was our original intention to ensure that veterans, 
Social Security recipients and Medicare contractors get some relief in 
this bill.
  Now we find that the same people who opposed the Defense bill all 
year want to pay defense salaries. We find the same people who voted 
twice against the Interior bill want to open the national parks. Now we 
find that the same people whose political party has filibustered the 
Labor-Health and Human Services bill in the Senate now want to pay for 
cancer research, even though they know full well that bill contains 
that cancer research.
  I have a modest proposal here. There is no argument on the worthiness 
of these three items. Let us pass this bill, get these three items 
fully funded, and worry about the rest. If you vote against this bill, 
you are against putting all of these good people to work on these 
worthy programs.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the motion offered by the 
gentleman from Louisiana [Mr. Livingston] that the House suspend the 
rules and pass the joint resolution, House Joint Resolution 123.
  The question was taken.
  Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, I object to the vote on the ground that a 
quorum is not present and make the point of order that a quorum is not 
present.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Evidently a quorum is not present.
  The Sergeant at Arms will notify absent Members.
  The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--yeas 416, 
nays 0, now voting 16, as follows:

                             [Roll No. 818]

                               YEAS--416

     Abercrombie
     Ackerman
     Allard
     Andrews
     Archer
     Armey
     Bachus
     Baesler
     Baker (CA)
     Baldacci
     Ballenger
     Barcia
     Barr
     Barrett (NE)
     Barrett (WI)
     Bartlett
     Barton
     Bass
     Bateman
     Becerra
     Beilenson
     Bentsen
     Bereuter
     Berman
     Bevill
     Bilbray
     Bilirakis
     Bishop
     Bliley
     Blute
     Boehlert
     Boehner
     Bonilla
     Bonior
     Bono
     Borski
     Boucher
     Browder
     Brown (CA)
     Brown (FL)
     Brown (OH)
     Brownback
     Bryant (TN)
     Bryant (TX)
     Bunn
     Bunning
     Burr
     Burton
     Buyer
     Calvert
     Camp
     Canady
     Cardin
     Castle
     Chabot
     Chambliss
     Chapman
     Chenoweth
     Christensen
     Chrysler
     Clay
     Clayton
     Clement
     Clinger
     Clyburn
     Coble
     Coburn
     Coleman
     Collins (GA)
     Collins (IL)
     Collins (MI)
     Combest
     Condit
     Conyers
     Cooley
     Costello
     Cox
     Coyne
     Cramer
     Crane
     Crapo
     Cremeans
     Cubin
     Cunningham
     Danner
     Davis
     de la Garza
     Deal
     DeFazio
     DeLauro
     DeLay
     Dellums
     Deutsch
     Diaz-Balart
     Dickey
     Dicks
     Dingell
     Dixon
     Doggett
     Dooley
     Doolittle
     Doyle
     Dreier
     Duncan
     Dunn
     Durbin
     Edwards
     Ehlers
     Ehrlich
     Emerson
     Engel
     English
     Ensign
     Eshoo
     Evans
     Everett
     Ewing
     Farr
     Fattah
     Fawell
     Fazio
     Fields (TX)
     Filner
     Flake
     Flanagan
     Foglietta
     Foley
     Forbes
     Ford
     Fowler
     Fox
     Frank (MA)
     Franks (CT)
     Franks (NJ)
     Frelinghuysen
     Frisa
     Frost
     Funderburk
     Furse
     Gallegly
     Ganske
     Gejdenson
     Gekas
     Gephardt
     Geren
     Gibbons
     Gilchrest
     Gillmor
     Gilman
     Gonzalez
     Goodlatte
     Goodling
     Gordon
     Goss
     Graham
     Green
     Greenwood
     Gunderson
     Gutierrez
     Gutknecht
     Hall (OH)
     Hall (TX)
     Hamilton
     Hancock
     Hansen
     Harman
     Hastert
     Hastings (FL)
     Hastings (WA)
     Hayworth
     Hefley
     Hefner
     Heineman
     Herger
     Hilleary
     Hilliard
     Hinchey
     Hobson
     Hoekstra
     Hoke
     Holden
     Horn
     Hostettler
     Houghton
     Hoyer
     Hunter
     Hutchinson
     Hyde
     Inglis
     Istook
     Jackson-Lee
     Jefferson
     Johnson (CT)
     Johnson (SD)
     Johnson, E. B.
     Johnson, Sam
     Johnston
     Jones
     Kanjorski
     Kaptur
     Kasich
     Kelly
     Kennedy (MA)
     Kennedy (RI)
     Kennelly
     Kildee
     Kim
     King
     Kingston
     Kleczka
     Klink
     Klug
     Knollenberg
     Kolbe
     LaFalce
     LaHood
     Lantos
     Largent
     Latham
     LaTourette
     Laughlin
     Lazio
     Leach
     Levin
     Lewis (CA)
     Lewis (GA)
     Lewis (KY)
     Lightfoot
     Lincoln
     Linder
     Lipinski
     Livingston
     LoBiondo
     Lofgren
     Longley
     Lowey
     Lucas
     Luther
     Maloney
     Manton
     Manzullo
     Markey
     Martinez
     Martini
     Mascara
     Matsui
     McCarthy
     McCollum
     McDade
     McHale
     McHugh
     McInnis
     McIntosh
     McKeon
     McKinney
     McNulty
     Meehan
     Meek
     Menendez
     Metcalf
     Meyers
     Mfume
     Mica
     Miller (CA)
     Miller (FL)
     Minge
     Mink
     Moakley
     Molinari
     Mollohan
     Montgomery
     Moorhead
     Moran
     Morella
     Murtha
     Myers
     Myrick
     Nadler
     Neal
     Nethercutt
     Ney
     Norwood
     Nussle
     Oberstar
     Obey
     Olver
     Ortiz
     Orton
     Owens
     Packard
     Pallone
     Parker
     Pastor
     Paxon
     Payne (NJ)
     Payne (VA)
     Pelosi
     Peterson (FL)
     Peterson (MN)
     Petri
     Pickett
     Pombo
     Pomeroy
     Porter
     Portman
     Poshard
     Quillen
     Quinn
     Radanovich
     Rahall
     Ramstad
     Rangel
     Reed
     Regula
     Richardson
     Riggs
     Rivers
     Roberts
     Roemer
     Rogers
     Rohrabacher
     Ros-Lehtinen
     Rose
     Roth
     Roukema
     Roybal-Allard
     Royce
     Rush
     Sabo
     Salmon
     Sanders
     Sanford
     Sawyer
     Saxton
     Scarborough
     Schaefer
     Schiff
     Schroeder
     Schumer
     Scott
     Seastrand
     Sensenbrenner
     Serrano
     Shadegg
     Shaw
     Shays
     Shuster
     Sisisky
     Skaggs
     Skeen
     Skelton
     Slaughter
     Smith (MI)
     Smith (NJ)
     Smith (TX)
     Smith (WA)
     Solomon
     Souder
     Spence
     Spratt
     Stark
     Stearns
     Stenholm
     Stockman
     Stokes
     Studds
     Stump
     Stupak
     Talent
     Tanner
     Tate
     Tauzin
     Taylor (MS)
     Taylor (NC)
     Tejeda
     Thomas
     Thompson
     Thornberry
     Thornton
     Thurman
     Tiahrt
     Torkildsen
     Torres
     Torricelli
     Towns
     Traficant
     Upton
     Velazquez
     Vento
     Visclosky
     Volkmer
     Vucanovich
     Waldholtz
     Walker
     Walsh
     Wamp
     Ward
     Waters
     Watt (NC)
     Watts (OK)
     Weldon (FL)
     Weller
     White
     Whitfield
     Wicker
     Williams
     Wise
     Wolf
     Woolsey
     Wyden
     Wynn
     Yates
     Young (AK)
     Young (FL)
     Zeliff
     Zimmer

                             NOT VOTING--16

     Baker (LA)
     Brewster
     Callahan
     Dornan
     Fields (LA)
     Hayes
     Jacobs
     McCrery
     McDermott
     Neumann
     Oxley
     Pryce
     Tucker
     Waxman
     Weldon (PA)
     Wilson

                              {time}  1444

  So, (two-thirds having voted in favor thereof) the rules were 
suspended and the joint resolution was passed.
  The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
  A motion to reconsider was laid on the table.
  
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                           MOTION TO ADJOURN

  Mr. LINDER. Mr. Speaker, I move that the House do now adjourn.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Emerson). The question is on the motion 
offered by the gentleman from Georgia [Mr. Linder].
  The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that 
the ayes appeared to have it.
  Mr. MORAN. Mr. Speaker, on that I demand the yeas and nays.
  The yeas and nays were ordered.
  The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--yeas 32, 
nays 361, answered ``present'' 1, not voting 38, as follows:

                             [Roll No. 819]

                                YEAS--32

     Barton
     Bliley
     Bunning
     Burr
     Clinger
     Coble
     Combest
     Dreier
     Ehrlich
     Greenwood
     Gutknecht
     Hastert
     Hostettler
     Houghton
     Knollenberg
     Largent
     Linder
     Myers
     Nussle
     Packard
     Porter
     Radanovich
     Roberts
     Roth
     Shuster
     Smith (TX)
     Souder
     Talent
     Thomas
     Thornberry
     Waldholtz
     Young (AK)

                               NAYS--361

     Abercrombie
     Allard
     Andrews
     Archer
     Armey
     Baesler
     Baker (CA)
     Baldacci
     Ballenger
     Barcia
     Barr
     Barrett (NE)
     Barrett (WI)
     Bartlett
     Bass
     Bateman
     Becerra
     Beilenson
     Bentsen
     Bereuter
     Berman
     Bevill
     Bilbray
     Bishop
     Blute
     Boehner
     Bonilla
     Bonior
     Bono
     Borski
     Boucher
     Browder
     Brown (CA)
     Brown (FL)
     Brown (OH)
     Brownback
     Bryant (TN)
     Bryant (TX)
     Bunn
     Burton
     Calvert
     Camp
     Canady
     Cardin
     Castle
     Chabot
     Chambliss
     Chapman
     Chenoweth
     Christensen
     Chrysler
     Clayton
     Clement
     Clyburn
     Coburn
     Coleman
     Collins (GA)
     Collins (IL)
     Collins (MI)
     Condit
     Conyers
     Cooley
     Costello
     Cox
     Coyne
     Cramer
     Crapo
     Cremeans
     Cubin
     Cunningham
     Davis
     de la Garza
     Deal
     DeFazio
     DeLauro
     DeLay
     Dellums
     Deutsch
     Dickey
     Dicks
     Dingell
     Dixon
     Doggett
     Dooley
     Doolittle
     Doyle
     Duncan
     Dunn
     Durbin
     Edwards
     Ehlers
     Emerson
     Engel
     English
     Ensign
     Eshoo
     Evans
     Everett
     Ewing
     Farr
     Fattah
     Fawell
     Fazio
     Fields (TX)
     Filner
     Flake
     Flanagan
     Foglietta
     Foley
     Forbes
     Ford
     Fox
     Frank (MA)
     Franks (CT)
     Franks (NJ)
     Frelinghuysen
     Frisa
     Frost
     Funderburk
     Furse
     Gallegly
     Ganske
     Gekas
     Gephardt
     Geren
     Gibbons
     Gilchrest
     Gillmor
     Gilman
     Gonzalez
     Goodlatte
     Goodling
     Gordon
     Goss
     Graham
     Green
     Gunderson
     Gutierrez
     Hall (OH)
     Hall (TX)
     Hamilton
     Hancock
     Hansen
     Harman
     Hastings (FL)
     Hastings (WA)
     Hayworth
     Hefley
     Hefner
     Heineman
     Herger
     Hilleary
     Hilliard
     Hinchey
     Hobson
     Hoekstra
     Hoke
     Holden
     Horn
     Hoyer
     Hunter
     Hutchinson
     Hyde
     Istook
     Jackson-Lee
     Jefferson
     Johnson (CT)
     Johnson (SD)
     Johnson, E. B.
     Johnson, Sam
     Johnston
     Jones
     Kanjorski
     Kaptur
     Kasich
     Kelly
     Kennedy (MA)
     Kennedy (RI)
     Kennelly
     Kildee
     Kim
     King
     Kleczka
     Klink
     Klug
     Kolbe
     LaFalce
     LaHood
     Lantos
     Latham
     LaTourette
     Lazio
     Leach
     Levin
     Lewis (CA)
     Lewis (GA)
     Lewis (KY)
     Lightfoot
     Lincoln
     Lipinski
     Livingston
     LoBiondo
     Lofgren
     Longley
     Lowey
     Lucas
     Luther
     Maloney
     Manton
     Manzullo
     Markey
     Martinez
     Martini
     Mascara
     Matsui
     McCarthy
     McCollum
     McDade
     McHale
     McHugh
     McInnis
     McIntosh
     McKeon
     McKinney
     McNulty
     Meehan
     Meek
     Menendez
     Metcalf
     Meyers
     Mfume
     Mica
     Miller (CA)
     Miller (FL)
     Minge
     Mink
     Molinari
     Mollohan
     Montgomery
     Moorhead
     Moran
     Morella
     Murtha
     Myrick
     Nadler
     Neal
     Nethercutt
     Ney
     Norwood
     Oberstar
     Obey
     Olver
     Ortiz
     Orton
     Owens
     Pallone
     Parker
     Pastor
     Paxon
     Payne (NJ)
     Payne (VA)
     Pelosi
     Peterson (FL)
     Peterson (MN)
     Petri
     Pickett
     Pombo
     Pomeroy
     Portman
     Poshard
     Quillen
     Rahall
     Ramstad
     Rangel
     Reed
     Regula
     Richardson
     Riggs
     Rivers
     Roemer
     Rogers
     Rohrabacher
     Ros-Lehtinen
     Rose
     Roybal-Allard
     Royce
     Rush
     Sabo
     Salmon
     Sanford
     Sawyer
     Saxton
     Scarborough
     Schaefer
     Schiff
     Schroeder
     Schumer
     Scott
     Seastrand
     Sensenbrenner
     Serrano
     Shadegg
     Shays
     Sisisky
     Skaggs
     Skeen
     Skelton
     Slaughter
     Smith (MI)
     Smith (NJ)
     Smith (WA)
     Spence
     Spratt
     Stark
     Stearns
     Stenholm
     Stockman
     Stokes
     Studds
     Stump
     Stupak
     Tanner
     Tate
     Tauzin
     Taylor (MS)
     Tejeda
     Thompson
     Thornton
     Thurman
     Tiahrt
     Torkildsen
     Torres
     Torricelli
     Towns
     Traficant
     Upton
     Velazquez
     Vento
     Visclosky
     Volkmer
     Vucanovich
     Walker
     Walsh
     Ward
     Waters
     Watt (NC)
     Watts (OK)
     Weldon (FL)
     Weller
     White
     Whitfield
     Wicker
     Williams
     Wise
     Wolf
     Woolsey
     Wyden
     Wynn
     Young (FL)
     Zeliff
     Zimmer

                        ANSWERED ``PRESENT''--1

       
     Buyer
       
       

                             NOT VOTING--38

     Ackerman
     Bachus
     Baker (LA)
     Bilirakis
     Boehlert
     Brewster
     Callahan
     Clay
     Crane
     Danner
     Diaz-Balart
     Dornan
     Fields (LA)
     Fowler
     Gejdenson
     Hayes
     Inglis
     Jacobs
     Kingston
     Laughlin
     McCrery
     McDermott
     Moakley
     Neumann
     Oxley
     Pryce
     Quinn
     Roukema
     Sanders
     Shaw
     Solomon
     Taylor (NC)
     Tucker
     Wamp
     Waxman
     Weldon (PA)
     Wilson
     Yates

                              {time}  1513

  Ms. ROS-LEHTINEN, Mrs. KELLY, Messrs. EVERETT, BRYANT of Tennessee, 
and BONILLA, Mrs. VUCANOVICH, Messrs. KASICH, SAXTON, LaHOOD, BURTON of 
Indiana, JONES, and STUMP, Mrs. JOHNSON of Connecticut, Messrs. FRANKS 
of Connecticut, SMITH of New Jersey, QUILLEN, DUNCAN, and HANSEN, Mrs. 
CUBIN, and Messrs. SENSENBRENNER, FAWELL, BARTLETT of Maryland, SHAYS, 
BARRETT of Nebraska, BASS, ZIMMER, ZELIFF, COOLEY, ROGERS, and FIELDS 
of Texas changed their vote from ``yea'' to ``nay.''
  So the motion to adjourn was rejected.
  The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.

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