[Congressional Record Volume 141, Number 154 (Friday, September 29, 1995)]
[House]
[Pages H9707-H9709]
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 CONFERENCE REPORT ON H.R. 2126, DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE APPROPRIATIONS 
                               ACT, 1966

  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Florida [Mr. Young] has 5 
minutes remaining.
  Mr. YOUNG of Florida. Mr. Speaker, I yield the balance of my time to 
the gentleman from Louisiana [Mr. Livingston], the distinguished 
chairman of the Committee on Appropriations.
  (Mr. LIVINGSTON asked and was given permission to revise and extend 
his remarks.)
  Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Speaker, I would like to inquire of the gentleman 
from Pennsylvania, if this bill goes down, what does he think the next 
one is going to look like?
  Mr. MURTHA. Mr. Speaker will the gentleman yield?
  Mr. LIVINGSTON. I yield to the gentleman from Pennsylvania.
  Mr. MURTHA. Mr. Speaker, the problem, as I see it, is, we had over 
2000 suggestions and recommendations to the bill. Obviously, we had to 
make a judgment on each of those recommendations as we went through the 
bill. Certainly, it would be a problem because as it gets involved in 
negotiations, there will be less of everything available. So there is 
no question in my mind, that there will be some substantial changes in 
the bill.
  Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman. There was some 
clapping when the gentleman said that. Some Members believe that what 
the gentleman from Pennsylvania said is a good thing. As a matter of 
fact, the gentleman from Wisconsin [Mr. Obey] spoke against the bill. 
He thinks that there is too much spending. The gentleman, various other 
folks on the other side of the aisle and on this side of the aisle have 
spoken against the bill for various reasons.
  We got a letter here from Alice Rivlin, dated today, saying the 
President of the United States is going to veto this bill because it is 
too much spending. I know that that represents a large sentiment in the 
minority, the minority.
  My colleagues, I address these comments to my friends on this side, 
we are the majority. We have been elected to set the agenda. One of the 
planks in the Contract With America was to provide for a strong 
national defense.
  Now, there are those among us who came to Congress with one issue or 
two issues in mind that had nothing whatsoever to do with the strong 
national defense. And I agree with them on those issues. Some want to 
balance the budget. Some believe that the protection of innocent life 
is the most important thing in this world. I agree with them. I have 
got a 100 percent pro-life record. But I also think that we as elected 
Members of the House of Representatives have the responsibility to 
represent our mutual constituents. We have the responsibility of 
representing every live: man, woman and child in our districts, every 
man, woman and child in America. Under the Constitution of the United 
States, one of our primary, if not our primary, responsibilities is to 
provide for an adequate defense for this Nation.
  The House Committee on Appropriations and the Senate Committee on 
Appropriations have met in conference and we have produced a conference 
report in bipartisan fashion which provides for not only an adequate 
defense but for a better defense than the President of the United 
States was prepared to provide if his numbers had governed.
  Last year in the rose garden in front of the White House, the 
President of the United States, surrounded by people with medals of all 
sorts, his Joint Chiefs of Staff, said his plan to reduce the military, 
the pentagon, had gone so far that he was $25 billion short, short in 
his plans to protect the sanctity of the United States to provide for 
the national defense. And, therefore, he was going to recommend that we 
spend $25 billion more.
  Guess what? The check never arrived. It never came. In his budget 
proposal in February, he provided for spending on defense of $7 billion 
less than last year, $7 billion less than last year.
  This conference committee, in conjunction with the Senate, said, no, 
Mr. President. We are going to hold you to your promise. We are going 
to provide exactly, not more, not less, but exactly what we provided 
last year. We are going to stem the flow. We realize that defense has 
been the scapegoat for every domestic program on earth for 11 straight 
years, that for the last 11 years procurement has gone down by almost 
75 percent, that in real terms, spending on defense has gone down by 
nearly 30 percent, and that it is time to stand up for the young men 
and women in uniform in this country and provide the basic services, 
the basic maintenance, the basic operations, the basic training that 
they need to do their job.

                              {time}  1415

  Now the President of the United States, the President of the United 
States, may well come to us in a few weeks and say he wants to send 
25,000, or any number, of troops to Bosnia, and some of my colleagues 
want to put a preemption in there and say, ``No, Mr. President, you 
can't do that.'' I suggest to my colleagues that we can do that, that 
he must come to Congress, that he cannot ignore us, but to take the 
unheard-of-step, unconstitutional step, of binding him before he has 
taken that action, is to play in the hands of the foolish of the world 
who believe that it is in the best interest of the pacifists of the 
world to simply bind the President in future events. How in the world 
can we really seriously say that no matter what happens in this world, 
no matter how much more peaceful in this world the President can make 
Europe by helping Bosnia, that we are going to cut it off today without 
knowing what is going to happen tomorrow and that under no 
circumstances can we put 10 troops in Bosnia, let alone 25,000?
  Let us cross that bridge when we come to it. Let us not 
unconstitutionally bind the President of the United States. Let us pass 
a good defense bill, even with last year. Let us not get hung up on 
pro-life issues that are important to all of us who are pro-life, but 
let us not forget that our first responsibility is to provide for an 
adequate national defense for every man, woman, and child in America 
today.
  This is a good bill. Pass it.
  Mr. WATTS of Oklahoma. Mr. Speaker, I stand before this House and 
offer a pledge of allegiance. However, unlike the pledge we take each 
morning, this pledge of allegiance is to those who are not yet born.
  Simply said, I pledge allegiance to the right to life.
  My belief in the right to life is not debatable, it is not 
contestable, it is not even open to discussion. It is an issue that 
simply offers no compromise and yet, today we face a dilemma.
  That dilemma surrounds our vote on the 1996 Department of Defense 
Appropriations Act conference report. That report contains a provision 
that prohibits funds from being made available to perform abortions at 
DOD medical facilities only if specifically authorized in the National 
Defense Authorization Act. The Appropriations Committee has now placed 
a burden of responsibility squarely on the shoulders of those on the 
authorization committee.
  Well, I accept that responsibility. And as I cast my vote for the 
appropriations conference report, I clearly understand that I must work 
hard to make certain the 1996 DOD authorization language directs that 
those facilities will not be used for abortions. At the same time, a 
vote for the appropriations conference report is a vote of support for 
our national defense and the needs of our Nation's military.
  The correct forum to fight the battle against performing abortions in 
DOD facilities is in the authorization conference committee. As such, I 
encourage my colleagues to support the appropriations conference 
report.
  Vote today for the conference report but I implore each and everyone 
in this chamber to support the design of language that prohibits this 
unacceptable procedure in our 1996 Defense Authorization Act.
  Ms. PELOSI. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to oppose the conference report 
accompanying H.R. 2126, the Defense appropriations bill for fiscal year 
1996. My colleagues, this conference agreement appropriates a total of 
$243.3 billion for defense programs--$6.9 billion more than the 
administration's request 

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and $1.7 billion more than was appropriated in fiscal year 1995.
  When combined with the monies appropriated under the defense-related 
provisions in the energy and water appropriations bill and those 
provided by the military construction appropriations bill, the total 
amount appropriated by the House of Representatives during fiscal year 
1996 for Defense programs will be $264.6 billion.
  Mr. Speaker, I support a level of defense spending adequate to meet 
our legitimate national security needs. However, when we spend billions 
of dollars on elaborate new weapons systems, millions of Americans go 
without health care insurance, decent housing, and an opportunity to 
seek a higher education.
  During the last several months, we have seen funding levels slashed 
for environmental and health protections, student loans, school 
lunches, Medicare, and numerous other governmental programs which make 
up the social welfare safety net. Increasing the funding levels for the 
Department of Defense while inflicting painful cuts on every other item 
in the Federal budget is both inequitable and harmful to our overall 
strength as a Nation.
  Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to join me in opposing this 
conference agreement. This conference agreement offers only a grand 
illusion of greater national security. Vote ``no'' on the conference 
report.
  Mr. HOBSON. Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong support of the fiscal year 
1996 Defense appropriations conference report.
  This agreement provides $243 billion for the Department of Defense 
including $69 billion for military personnel, $81.5 billion for 
operation and maintenance, and $44.4 billion for procurement. Total 
funding is $746 million less than the House-passed bill and $1.7 
billion more than enacted in fiscal year 1995.
  As the No. 2 member of the Budget Committee, I can confirm that the 
Defense appropriations conference report is in line with the balanced 
budget priorities we established in the budget resolution. There should 
be no fiscal objection to this conference agreement. It is one which 
everybody can support.
  As a member of the conference committee, I can attest that the House 
conferees stood up for the priorities established in the House bill, 
especially the military readiness and quality of life improvements 
which our servicemen and women deserve. Readiness is funded at $647 
million more than the President's request and quality of life 
improvements are funded at $332 million more than the President's 
request. These increases are responsible and needed to cover our 
Nation's legitimate military requirements.
  This is a conference report which protects the troops who protect us. 
It has my wholehearted support and should have the support of all my 
colleagues as well.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Bunning). All time has expired.
  Without objection, the previous question is ordered on the conference 
report.
  Mr. YOUNG of Florida. Mr. Speaker, reserving the right to object, I 
want to point out that when the gentleman from Wisconsin [Mr. Obey] 
makes the motion to recommit with instructions, that we intend to 
defeat it.
  Mr. Speaker, I withdraw my reservation of objection.
  The previous question was ordered.


                 motion to recommit offered by mr. obey

  Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, I offer a motion to recommit.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is the gentleman opposed to the conference 
report?
  Mr. OBEY. I am, Mr. Speaker.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Clerk will report the motion to 
recommit.
  The Clerk read as follows:

       Mr. Obey moves to recommit the conference report to 
     accompany the bill H.R. 2126 to the Committee of Conference 
     with instructions to include in the conference report the 
     following modification to Section 8108 of the House bill:
       None of the funds available to the Department of Defense 
     under this Act shall be obligated or expended to pay a 
     contractor under a contract with the Department of Defense 
     for costs of any amount paid by the contractor to an 
     executive or managerial employee when it is made known to the 
     Federal official having authority to obligate or expend such 
     funds that--
       (1) such costs are for a bonus or otherwise in excess of 
     the normal salary paid by the contractor to the employee such 
     as payments under post retirement income plans, payments of 
     deferred compensation, payments under performance incentive 
     compensation plans, and payments pursuant to termination 
     benefit agreements; and
       (2) such costs are part of restructuring costs associated 
     with a business combination resulting from a change in 
     control of the employee's company.

  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Without objection, the previous question is 
ordered on the motion to recommit.
  There was no objection.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the motion to recommit.
  The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that 
the noes appeared to have it.


                             recorded vote

  Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, I demand a recorded vote.
  A recorded vote was ordered.
  The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 176, 
noes 240, answered ``present'' 1, not voting 17, as follows:

                             [Roll No. 699]

                               AYES--176

     Abercrombie
     Ackerman
     Allard
     Baesler
     Baldacci
     Barcia
     Barrett (WI)
     Becerra
     Beilenson
     Bentsen
     Berman
     Bevill
     Bilirakis
     Bonior
     Borski
     Boucher
     Browder
     Brown (OH)
     Bryant (TX)
     Cardin
     Chapman
     Clay
     Clayton
     Clement
     Clyburn
     Coleman
     Collins (MI)
     Condit
     Conyers
     Costello
     Coyne
     Danner
     de la Garza
     DeFazio
     DeLauro
     Dellums
     Dingell
     Dixon
     Doggett
     Doyle
     Duncan
     Durbin
     Edwards
     Ehrlich
     Engel
     Eshoo
     Evans
     Farr
     Fattah
     Fazio
     Filner
     Flake
     Foglietta
     Ford
     Frank (MA)
     Franks (NJ)
     Furse
     Gejdenson
     Gephardt
     Geren
     Gonzalez
     Gordon
     Green
     Gutierrez
     Hall (OH)
     Hall (TX)
     Hastings (FL)
     Hefley
     Hefner
     Hilliard
     Hinchey
     Holden
     Jackson-Lee
     Jacobs
     Johnson (SD)
     Johnston
     Kanjorski
     Kaptur
     Kennedy (MA)
     Kennedy (RI)
     Kennelly
     Kildee
     Kleczka
     LaFalce
     Lantos
     Lazio
     Leach
     Levin
     Lewis (GA)
     Lincoln
     Lipinski
     LoBiondo
     Lofgren
     Lowey
     Luther
     Maloney
     Manton
     Markey
     Martinez
     Martini
     Mascara
     Matsui
     McCarthy
     McDermott
     McInnis
     McKinney
     Meehan
     Menendez
     Mfume
     Miller (CA)
     Minge
     Mink
     Moakley
     Nadler
     Neal
     Oberstar
     Obey
     Olver
     Ortiz
     Orton
     Owens
     Pallone
     Pastor
     Payne (NJ)
     Payne (VA)
     Pelosi
     Peterson (MN)
     Petri
     Pomeroy
     Poshard
     Rahall
     Rangel
     Reed
     Richardson
     Rivers
     Roukema
     Roybal-Allard
     Rush
     Sabo
     Sanders
     Sawyer
     Schroeder
     Schumer
     Scott
     Serrano
     Shays
     Skaggs
     Slaughter
     Spratt
     Stark
     Stenholm
     Stokes
     Studds
     Stupak
     Tanner
     Taylor (MS)
     Thornton
     Thurman
     Torres
     Torricelli
     Towns
     Velazquez
     Vento
     Visclosky
     Volkmer
     Ward
     Waters
     Watt (NC)
     Waxman
     Williams
     Wise
     Woolsey
     Wyden
     Wynn
     Yates
     Zimmer

                               NOES--240

     Andrews
     Archer
     Armey
     Bachus
     Baker (CA)
     Baker (LA)
     Ballenger
     Barr
     Barrett (NE)
     Bartlett
     Barton
     Bass
     Bateman
     Bereuter
     Bilbray
     Bishop
     Bliley
     Blute
     Boehlert
     Boehner
     Bonilla
     Bono
     Brewster
     Brown (FL)
     Brownback
     Bryant (TN)
     Bunn
     Bunning
     Burr
     Burton
     Buyer
     Calvert
     Camp
     Canady
     Castle
     Chabot
     Chambliss
     Chenoweth
     Christensen
     Chrysler
     Clinger
     Coble
     Coburn
     Collins (GA)
     Combest
     Cooley
     Cox
     Cramer
     Crane
     Crapo
     Cremeans
     Cubin
     Cunningham
     Davis
     Deal
     Diaz-Balart
     Dickey
     Dicks
     Dooley
     Doolittle
     Dornan
     Dreier
     Dunn
     Ehlers
     Emerson
     English
     Ensign
     Everett
     Ewing
     Fawell
     Fields (TX)
     Flanagan
     Foley
     Forbes
     Fowler
     Fox
     Franks (CT)
     Frelinghuysen
     Frisa
     Funderburk
     Gallegly
     Ganske
     Gekas
     Gibbons
     Gilchrest
     Gillmor
     Gilman
     Goodlatte
     Goodling
     Goss
     Graham
     Greenwood
     Gunderson
     Gutknecht
     Hamilton
     Hancock
     Hansen
     Harman
     Hastert
     Hastings (WA)
     Hayes
     Hayworth
     Heineman
     Herger
     Hilleary
     Hobson
     Hoekstra
     Hoke
     Horn
     Hostettler
     Houghton
     Hunter
     Hutchinson
     Hyde
     Inglis
     Istook
     Jefferson
     Johnson (CT)
     Johnson, E. B.
     Johnson, Sam
     Jones
     Kasich
     Kelly
     Kim
     King
     Kingston
     Klink
     Klug
     Knollenberg
     Kolbe
     LaHood
     Largent
     Latham
     LaTourette
     Laughlin
     Lewis (CA)
     Lewis (KY)
     Lightfoot
     Linder
     Livingston
     Longley
     Lucas
     Manzullo
     McCollum
     McCrery
     McDade
     McHale
     McIntosh
     McKeon
     McNulty
     Meek
     Metcalf
     Meyers
     Mica
     Miller (FL)
     Molinari
     Mollohan
     Montgomery
     Moorhead
     Moran
     Morella
     Murtha
     Myers
     Myrick
     Nethercutt
     Neumann
     Ney
     Norwood
     Nussle
     Oxley
     Packard
     Parker
     Paxon
     Peterson (FL)
     Pickett
     Pombo
     Portman
     Pryce
     Quinn
     Radanovich
     Ramstad
     Regula
     Riggs
     Roberts
     Roemer
     Rohrabacher
     Ros-Lehtinen
     Rose
     Roth
     Royce
     Salmon
     Sanford
     Saxton
     Scarborough
     Schaefer

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     Schiff
     Seastrand
     Sensenbrenner
     Shadegg
     Shaw
     Shuster
     Sisisky
     Skeen
     Skelton
     Smith (MI)
     Smith (NJ)
     Smith (TX)
     Smith (WA)
     Solomon
     Souder
     Spence
     Stearns
     Stockman
     Stump
     Talent
     Tate
     Tauzin
     Taylor (NC)
     Thomas
     Thornberry
     Tiahrt
     Torkildsen
     Traficant
     Upton
     Vucanovich
     Waldholtz
     Walsh
     Wamp
     Watts (OK)
     Weldon (FL)
     Weldon (PA)
     Weller
     White
     Whitfield
     Wicker
     Wilson
     Wolf
     Young (AK)
     Young (FL)
     Zeliff

                        ANSWERED ``PRESENT''--1

       
     Mineta
       

                             NOT VOTING--17

     Brown (CA)
     Callahan
     Collins (IL)
     DeLay
     Deutsch
     Fields (LA)
     Frost
     Hoyer
     McHugh
     Porter
     Quillen
     Reynolds
     Rogers
     Tejeda
     Thompson
     Tucker
     Walker

                              {time}  1438

  The Clerk announced the following pair:
  On this vote:

       Mr. Deutsch for, with Mr. Porter against.

  Mr. GEJDENSON and Mr. HEFNER changed their vote from ``no'' to 
``aye.''
  So the motion to recommit was rejected.
  The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
  A motion to reconsider was laid on the table.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Bunning of Kentucky). The question is on 
the conference report.
  Pursuant to clause 7 of rule XV, the yeas and nays are ordered.
  The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--yeas 151, 
nays 267, answered ``present'' 1, not voting 15, as follows:

                             [Roll No. 700]

                               YEAS--151

     Abercrombie
     Archer
     Armey
     Bachus
     Baesler
     Baker (LA)
     Ballenger
     Barr
     Bateman
     Bilbray
     Bishop
     Blute
     Boehlert
     Boehner
     Bonilla
     Bono
     Boucher
     Brewster
     Brown (FL)
     Callahan
     Calvert
     Castle
     Chambliss
     Clinger
     Clyburn
     Coleman
     Cox
     Cramer
     Davis
     DeLauro
     DeLay
     Dicks
     Dixon
     Dooley
     Dreier
     Dunn
     Edwards
     Ehrlich
     Everett
     Farr
     Fawell
     Fazio
     Fields (TX)
     Foley
     Fowler
     Franks (CT)
     Frelinghuysen
     Gallegly
     Gejdenson
     Gekas
     Geren
     Gibbons
     Gilchrest
     Gillmor
     Gilman
     Gonzalez
     Goodling
     Goss
     Greenwood
     Gunderson
     Hansen
     Harman
     Hastert
     Hastings (FL)
     Hastings (WA)
     Hefner
     Hobson
     Horn
     Houghton
     Hoyer
     Hunter
     Istook
     Jacobs
     Jefferson
     Johnson (CT)
     Johnson, E. B.
     Johnson, Sam
     Kasich
     Kelly
     Kennedy (RI)
     Kennelly
     Kim
     Klink
     Knollenberg
     Kolbe
     Lazio
     Leach
     Lewis (CA)
     Livingston
     Longley
     Lucas
     Matsui
     McCollum
     McCrery
     McDade
     McHale
     McKeon
     McNulty
     Meyers
     Miller (FL)
     Moakley
     Molinari
     Mollohan
     Montgomery
     Moran
     Murtha
     Neal
     Nethercutt
     Oxley
     Packard
     Paxon
     Peterson (FL)
     Pickett
     Pryce
     Quinn
     Radanovich
     Reed
     Regula
     Rohrabacher
     Rose
     Salmon
     Saxton
     Scarborough
     Schiff
     Scott
     Shaw
     Shuster
     Sisisky
     Skeen
     Skelton
     Smith (MI)
     Smith (TX)
     Solomon
     Spence
     Stenholm
     Stump
     Tanner
     Thomas
     Thornberry
     Thurman
     Torkildsen
     Traficant
     Visclosky
     Waldholtz
     Walsh
     Ward
     Watts (OK)
     Weldon (PA)
     White
     Wilson
     Young (FL)

                               NAYS--267

     Ackerman
     Allard
     Andrews
     Baker (CA)
     Baldacci
     Barcia
     Barrett (NE)
     Barrett (WI)
     Bartlett
     Barton
     Bass
     Becerra
     Beilenson
     Bentsen
     Bereuter
     Berman
     Bevill
     Bilirakis
     Bliley
     Bonior
     Borski
     Browder
     Brown (OH)
     Brownback
     Bryant (TN)
     Bryant (TX)
     Bunn
     Bunning
     Burr
     Burton
     Buyer
     Camp
     Canady
     Cardin
     Chabot
     Chapman
     Chenoweth
     Christensen
     Chrysler
     Clay
     Clayton
     Clement
     Coble
     Coburn
     Collins (GA)
     Collins (MI)
     Combest
     Condit
     Conyers
     Cooley
     Costello
     Coyne
     Crane
     Crapo
     Cremeans
     Cubin
     Cunningham
     Danner
     de la Garza
     Deal
     DeFazio
     Dellums
     Diaz-Balart
     Dickey
     Dingell
     Doggett
     Doolittle
     Dornan
     Doyle
     Duncan
     Durbin
     Ehlers
     Emerson
     Engel
     English
     Ensign
     Eshoo
     Evans
     Ewing
     Fattah
     Filner
     Flake
     Flanagan
     Foglietta
     Forbes
     Ford
     Fox
     Frank (MA)
     Franks (NJ)
     Frisa
     Funderburk
     Furse
     Ganske
     Gephardt
     Goodlatte
     Gordon
     Graham
     Green
     Gutierrez
     Gutknecht
     Hall (OH)
     Hall (TX)
     Hamilton
     Hancock
     Hayes
     Hayworth
     Hefley
     Heineman
     Herger
     Hilleary
     Hilliard
     Hinchey
     Hoekstra
     Hoke
     Holden
     Hostettler
     Hutchinson
     Hyde
     Inglis
     Jackson-Lee
     Johnson (SD)
     Johnston
     Jones
     Kanjorski
     Kaptur
     Kennedy (MA)
     Kildee
     King
     Kingston
     Kleczka
     Klug
     LaHood
     Lantos
     Largent
     Latham
     LaTourette
     Laughlin
     Levin
     Lewis (GA)
     Lewis (KY)
     Lightfoot
     Lincoln
     Linder
     Lipinski
     LoBiondo
     Lofgren
     Lowey
     Luther
     Maloney
     Manton
     Manzullo
     Markey
     Martinez
     Martini
     Mascara
     McCarthy
     McDermott
     McInnis
     McIntosh
     McKinney
     Meehan
     Menendez
     Metcalf
     Mfume
     Mica
     Miller (CA)
     Minge
     Mink
     Moorhead
     Morella
     Myers
     Myrick
     Nadler
     Neumann
     Ney
     Norwood
     Nussle
     Oberstar
     Obey
     Olver
     Ortiz
     Orton
     Owens
     Pallone
     Parker
     Pastor
     Payne (NJ)
     Payne (VA)
     Pelosi
     Peterson (MN)
     Petri
     Pombo
     Pomeroy
     Portman
     Poshard
     Rahall
     Ramstad
     Rangel
     Richardson
     Riggs
     Rivers
     Roberts
     Roemer
     Rogers
     Ros-Lehtinen
     Roth
     Roukema
     Roybal-Allard
     Royce
     Rush
     Sabo
     Sanders
     Sanford
     Sawyer
     Schaefer
     Schroeder
     Schumer
     Seastrand
     Sensenbrenner
     Serrano
     Shadegg
     Shays
     Skaggs
     Slaughter
     Smith (NJ)
     Smith (WA)
     Souder
     Spratt
     Stark
     Stearns
     Stockman
     Stokes
     Studds
     Stupak
     Talent
     Tate
     Tauzin
     Taylor (MS)
     Taylor (NC)
     Thornton
     Tiahrt
     Torres
     Torricelli
     Towns
     Upton
     Velazquez
     Vento
     Volkmer
     Vucanovich
     Wamp
     Waters
     Watt (NC)
     Waxman
     Weldon (FL)
     Weller
     Whitfield
     Wicker
     Williams
     Wise
     Wolf
     Woolsey
     Wyden
     Wynn
     Yates
     Young (AK)
     Zeliff
     Zimmer

                        ANSWERED ``PRESENT''--1

       
     Mineta
       

                             NOT VOTING--15

     Brown (CA)
     Collins (IL)
     Deutsch
     Fields (LA)
     Frost
     LaFalce
     McHugh
     Meek
     Porter
     Quillen
     Reynolds
     Tejeda
     Thompson
     Tucker
     Walker

                              {time}  1457

  The Clerk announced the following pair:
  On this vote:

       Mr. Porter for, with Mr. Deutsch against.

  Messrs. LUTHER, COMBEST, and NEY, Mrs. CUBIN, Mr. WHITFIELD, and Mr. 
SPRATT changed their vote from ``yea'' to ``nay.''
  Mr. FARR and Mr. STENHOLM changed their vote from ``nay'' to ``yea.''
  So the conference report was rejected.
  The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
  A motion to reconsider was laid on the table.

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