[Congressional Record Volume 141, Number 110 (Monday, July 10, 1995)]
[House]
[Pages H6714-H6723]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]
ELECTION OF MEMBER TO THE COMMITTEE ON WAYS AND MEANS
Mr. BOEHNER. Mr. Speaker, by direction of the Republican Conference,
I offer a privileged resolution (H. Res. 183) and ask for its immediate
consideration.
The Clerk read the resolution, as follows:
H. Res. 183
Resolved, that the following named Member be, and he is
hereby, elected to the following standing committee of the
House of Representatives:
Committee on Ways and Means: Mr. Laughlin of Texas, to rank
following Mr. Portman of Ohio.
Mr. DOGGETT. Mr. Speaker, pursuant to clause 3 of rule XVI, I raise
the question of consideration.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is: Will the House now consider
House Resolution 183.
The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that
the noes appeared to have it.
Mr. BOEHNER. Mr. Speaker, on that I demand the yeas and nays.
The yeas and nays were ordered.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--yeas 220,
nays 176, not voting 38, as follows:
[Roll No. 470]
YEAS--220
Allard
Armey
Bachus
Baker (CA)
Baker (LA)
Ballenger
Barr
Barrett (NE)
Bartlett
Barton
Bass
Bateman
Bereuter
Bilbray
Bilirakis
Bliley
Blute
Boehlert
Boehner
Bonilla
Bono
Brownback
Bryant (TN)
Bunn
Bunning
Burr
Burton
Buyer
Callahan
Calvert
Camp
Canady
Castle
Chabot
Chambliss
Chenoweth
Christensen
Chrysler
Coble
Coburn
Collins (GA)
Combest
Cooley
Cox
Crane
Crapo
Cremeans
Cubin
Cunningham
Davis
Deal
DeLay
Diaz-Balart
Dickey
Doolittle
Dornan
Dreier
Duncan
Dunn
Ehlers
Ehrlich
Emerson
English
Everett
Ewing
Fawell
Flanagan
Foley
Forbes
Fowler
Fox
Franks (CT)
Franks (NJ)
Frelinghuysen
Frisa
Funderburk
Gallegly
Ganske
Gekas
Gilchrest
Gillmor
Gilman
Goodlatte
Goodling
Goss
Greenwood
Gunderson
Gutknecht
Hall (TX)
Hancock
Hansen
Hastert
Hayworth
Hefley
Heineman
Herger
Hilleary
Hobson
Hoekstra
Hoke
Horn
Hostettler
Houghton
Hutchinson
Hyde
Inglis
Istook
Johnson (CT)
Johnson, Sam
Jones
Kasich
Kelly
Kim
King
Kingston
Klug
Knollenberg
Kolbe
LaHood
Largent
Latham
LaTourette
Laughlin
Lazio
Leach
Lewis (CA)
Lewis (KY)
Lightfoot
Linder
Livingston
LoBiondo
Longley
Lucas
Manzullo
Martini
McCollum
McCrery
McHugh
McInnis
McIntosh
McKeon
Metcalf
Meyers
Miller (FL)
Molinari
Moorhead
Morella
Myers
Myrick
Nethercutt
Neumann
Ney
Norwood
Nussle
Oxley
Packard
Parker
Paxon
Petri
Pombo
Porter
Portman
Quillen
Ramstad
Regula
[[Page H 6715]]
Riggs
Roberts
Rogers
Rohrabacher
Ros-Lehtinen
Roth
Royce
Salmon
Sanford
Saxton
Scarborough
Schaefer
Schiff
Sensenbrenner
Shadegg
Shaw
Shays
Shuster
Skeen
Smith (MI)
Smith (NJ)
Smith (TX)
Smith (WA)
Solomon
Souder
Stearns
Stockman
Stump
Talent
Tate
Tauzin
Taylor (NC)
Thomas
Thornberry
Tiahrt
Torkildsen
Upton
Vucanovich
Waldholtz
Walker
Walsh
Wamp
Watt (NC)
Watts (OK)
Weldon (FL)
Weldon (PA)
Weller
White
Whitfield
Wicker
Wolf
Young (AK)
Young (FL)
Zeliff
Zimmer
NAYS--176
Ackerman
Andrews
Baesler
Baldacci
Barcia
Barrett (WI)
Beilenson
Bentsen
Berman
Bevill
Bishop
Bonior
Borski
Boucher
Brewster
Browder
Brown (FL)
Brown (OH)
Bryant (TX)
Cardin
Chapman
Clay
Clayton
Clement
Clyburn
Coleman
Collins (IL)
Collins (MI)
Condit
Conyers
Costello
Coyne
Cramer
Danner
de la Garza
DeFazio
DeLauro
Deutsch
Dicks
Dingell
Doggett
Doyle
Durbin
Edwards
Engel
Eshoo
Evans
Farr
Fattah
Fazio
Fields (LA)
Filner
Flake
Ford
Frank (MA)
Furse
Gejdenson
Gephardt
Geren
Gibbons
Gonzalez
Gordon
Green
Gutierrez
Hall (OH)
Hamilton
Harman
Hastings (FL)
Hayes
Hefner
Hilliard
Hinchey
Holden
Hoyer
Jackson-Lee
Johnson (SD)
Johnson, E. B.
Johnston
Kanjorski
Kaptur
Kennedy (MA)
Kennedy (RI)
Kennelly
Kildee
Kleczka
Klink
LaFalce
Levin
Lewis (GA)
Lincoln
Lofgren
Lowey
Luther
Maloney
Manton
Markey
Martinez
Mascara
Matsui
McCarthy
McDermott
McHale
McKinney
McNulty
Meehan
Meek
Menendez
Miller (CA)
Mineta
Minge
Mink
Mollohan
Montgomery
Moran
Murtha
Nadler
Neal
Obey
Olver
Ortiz
Orton
Owens
Pallone
Pastor
Payne (NJ)
Pelosi
Peterson (MN)
Pickett
Pomeroy
Poshard
Rahall
Rangel
Reed
Richardson
Rivers
Roemer
Roybal-Allard
Rush
Sabo
Sanders
Sawyer
Schroeder
Schumer
Scott
Serrano
Sisisky
Skaggs
Skelton
Slaughter
Spratt
Stark
Stokes
Studds
Stupak
Tanner
Taylor (MS)
Tejeda
Thompson
Thornton
Thurman
Torres
Traficant
Velazquez
Vento
Visclosky
Volkmer
Ward
Waters
Waxman
Williams
Wilson
Wise
Woolsey
Wyden
Wynn
Yates
NOT VOTING--38
Abercrombie
Archer
Becerra
Brown (CA)
Clinger
Dellums
Dixon
Dooley
Ensign
Fields (TX)
Foglietta
Frost
Graham
Hastings (WA)
Hunter
Jacobs
Jefferson
Lantos
Lipinski
McDade
Mfume
Mica
Moakley
Oberstar
Payne (VA)
Peterson (FL)
Pryce
Quinn
Radanovich
Reynolds
Rose
Roukema
Seastrand
Spence
Stenholm
Torricelli
Towns
Tucker
{time} 1742
So the House agreed to consider House Resolution 183.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Walker). Without objection, the motion
to reconsider is laid on the table.
Mr. WATT of North Carolina. Mr. Speaker, I object.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Objection is heard.
Mr. DeLAY. Mr. Speaker, I move to reconsider the vote whereby the
question of consideration was decided.
motion to table offered by mr. boehner
Mr. BOEHNER. Mr. Speaker, I move to lay on the table the motion to
reconsider the vote whereby the question of consideration was decided.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the motion offered by the
gentleman from Ohio [Mr. Boehner] to lay on the table the motion
offered by the gentleman from Texas [Mr. DeLay] to reconsider the vote.
The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that
the ayes appeared to have it.
recorded vote
Mr. WATT of North Carolina. Mr. Speaker, I demand a recorded vote.
A recorded vote was ordered.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 222,
noes 179, not voting 33, as follows:
[Roll No. 471]
AYES--222
Allard
Armey
Bachus
Baker (CA)
Baker (LA)
Ballenger
Barr
Barrett (NE)
Bartlett
Barton
Bass
Bateman
Bereuter
Bilbray
Bilirakis
Bliley
Blute
Boehlert
Boehner
Bonilla
Bono
Brownback
Bryant (TN)
Bunn
Bunning
Burr
Burton
Buyer
Callahan
Calvert
Camp
Canady
Castle
Chabot
Chambliss
Chenoweth
Christensen
Chrysler
Coble
Coburn
Collins (GA)
Combest
Cooley
Cox
Crane
Crapo
Cremeans
Cubin
Cunningham
Davis
Deal
DeLay
Diaz-Balart
Dickey
Doolittle
Dornan
Dreier
Duncan
Dunn
Ehlers
Ehrlich
Emerson
English
Everett
Ewing
Fawell
Flanagan
Foley
Forbes
Fowler
Fox
Franks (CT)
Franks (NJ)
Frelinghuysen
Frisa
Funderburk
Gallegly
Ganske
Gekas
Gilchrest
Gillmor
Gilman
Goodlatte
Goodling
Goss
Greenwood
Gunderson
Gutknecht
Hall (TX)
Hancock
Hansen
Hastert
Hayes
Hayworth
Hefley
Heineman
Herger
Hilleary
Hobson
Hoekstra
Hoke
Horn
Hostettler
Houghton
Hutchinson
Hyde
Inglis
Istook
Johnson (CT)
Johnson, Sam
Jones
Kasich
Kelly
Kim
King
Kingston
Klug
Knollenberg
Kolbe
LaHood
Largent
Latham
LaTourette
Laughlin
Lazio
Leach
Lewis (CA)
Lewis (KY)
Lightfoot
Linder
Livingston
LoBiondo
Longley
Lucas
Manzullo
Martini
McCollum
McCrery
McHugh
McInnis
McIntosh
McKeon
Metcalf
Meyers
Miller (FL)
Molinari
Moorhead
Morella
Myers
Myrick
Nethercutt
Neumann
Ney
Norwood
Nussle
Oxley
Packard
Parker
Paxon
Petri
Pombo
Porter
Portman
Quillen
Radanovich
Ramstad
Regula
Riggs
Roberts
Rogers
Rohrabacher
Ros-Lehtinen
Roth
Royce
Salmon
Sanford
Saxton
Scarborough
Schaefer
Schiff
Sensenbrenner
Shadegg
Shaw
Shays
Shuster
Skeen
Smith (MI)
Smith (NJ)
Smith (TX)
Smith (WA)
Solomon
Souder
Stearns
Stockman
Stump
Talent
Tate
Tauzin
Taylor (MS)
Taylor (NC)
Thomas
Thornberry
Tiahrt
Torkildsen
Upton
Vucanovich
Waldholtz
Walker
Walsh
Wamp
Watts (OK)
Weldon (FL)
Weldon (PA)
Weller
White
Whitfield
Wicker
Wolf
Young (AK)
Young (FL)
Zeliff
Zimmer
NOES--179
Ackerman
Andrews
Baesler
Baldacci
Barcia
Barrett (WI)
Beilenson
Bentsen
Berman
Bevill
Bishop
Bonior
Borski
Boucher
Brewster
Browder
Brown (FL)
Brown (OH)
Bryant (TX)
Cardin
Chapman
Clay
Clayton
Clement
Clyburn
Coleman
Collins (IL)
Collins (MI)
Condit
Conyers
Costello
Coyne
Cramer
Danner
de la Garza
DeFazio
DeLauro
Dellums
Deutsch
Dicks
Dingell
Dixon
Doggett
Doyle
Durbin
Edwards
Engel
Ensign
Eshoo
Evans
Farr
Fattah
Fazio
Fields (LA)
Filner
Flake
Ford
Frank (MA)
Furse
Gejdenson
Gephardt
Geren
Gibbons
Gonzalez
Gordon
Green
Gutierrez
Hall (OH)
Hamilton
Harman
Hastings (FL)
Hefner
Hilliard
Hinchey
Holden
Hoyer
Jackson-Lee
Jacobs
Johnson (SD)
Johnson, E. B.
Johnston
Kanjorski
Kaptur
Kennedy (MA)
Kennedy (RI)
Kennelly
Kildee
Kleczka
Klink
LaFalce
Levin
Lewis (GA)
Lincoln
Lofgren
Lowey
Luther
Maloney
Manton
Markey
Martinez
Mascara
Matsui
McCarthy
McDermott
McHale
McKinney
McNulty
Meehan
Meek
Mica
Miller (CA)
Mineta
Minge
Mink
Mollohan
Montgomery
Moran
Murtha
Nadler
Neal
Obey
Olver
Ortiz
Orton
Owens
Pallone
Pastor
Payne (NJ)
Pelosi
Peterson (MN)
Pickett
Pomeroy
Poshard
Rahall
Rangel
Reed
Richardson
Rivers
Roemer
Rose
Roybal-Allard
Rush
Sabo
Sanders
Sawyer
Schroeder
Schumer
Scott
Serrano
Sisisky
Skaggs
Skelton
Slaughter
Spratt
Stark
Stokes
Studds
Stupak
Tanner
Tejeda
Thompson
Thornton
Thurman
Torres
Traficant
Velazquez
Vento
Visclosky
Volkmer
Ward
Waters
Watt (NC)
Waxman
Wilson
Wise
Woolsey
Wyden
Wynn
Yates
NOT VOTING--33
Abercrombie
Archer
Becerra
Brown (CA)
Clinger
Dooley
Fields (TX)
Foglietta
Frost
Graham
Hastings (WA)
Hunter
Jefferson
Lantos
Lipinski
McDade
Menendez
Mfume
Moakley
Oberstar
Payne (VA)
Peterson (FL)
Pryce
Quinn
[[Page H 6716]]
Reynolds
Roukema
Seastrand
Spence
Stenholm
Torricelli
Towns
Tucker
Williams
{time} 1759
So the motion to lay the motion to reconsider the vote on the table
was agreed to.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
motion to lay the resolution on the table offered by mr. watt of north
carolina
Mr. WATT of North Carolina. Mr. Speaker, I offer a privileged motion.
The Clerk read as follows:
Mr. WATT of North Carolina moves to lay the resolution on the table.
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Walker). The question is on the motion
offered by the gentleman from North Carolina [Mr. Watt] to lay the
resolution on the table.
The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that
the noes appears to have it.
recorded vote
Mr. WATT of North Carolina. Mr. Speaker, I demand a recorded vote.
A recorded vote was ordered.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 178,
noes 229, not voting 27 as follows:
[Roll No. 472]
AYES--178
Ackerman
Andrews
Baesler
Baldacci
Barcia
Barrett (WI)
Beilenson
Bentsen
Berman
Bevill
Bishop
Bonior
Borski
Boucher
Browder
Brown (FL)
Brown (OH)
Bryant (TX)
Cardin
Chapman
Clay
Clayton
Clement
Clyburn
Coleman
Collins (IL)
Collins (MI)
Condit
Conyers
Costello
Coyne
Cramer
Danner
de la Garza
DeFazio
DeLauro
Dellums
Deutsch
Dicks
Dingell
Dixon
Doggett
Doyle
Durbin
Edwards
Engel
Ensign
Eshoo
Evans
Farr
Fattah
Fazio
Fields (LA)
Filner
Flake
Ford
Furse
Gejdenson
Gephardt
Geren
Gibbons
Gonzalez
Gordon
Green
Gutierrez
Hall (OH)
Hamilton
Harman
Hastings (FL)
Hefner
Hilliard
Hinchey
Holden
Hoyer
Jackson-Lee
Jacobs
Johnson (SD)
Johnson, E. B.
Johnston
Kanjorski
Kaptur
Kennedy (MA)
Kennedy (RI)
Kennelly
Kildee
Kleczka
Klink
LaFalce
Levin
Lewis (GA)
Lincoln
Lofgren
Lowey
Luther
Maloney
Manton
Markey
Martinez
Mascara
Matsui
McCarthy
McDermott
McHale
McKinney
McNulty
Meehan
Meek
Miller (CA)
Mineta
Minge
Mink
Mollohan
Montgomery
Moran
Murtha
Nadler
Neal
Oberstar
Obey
Olver
Ortiz
Orton
Owens
Pallone
Pastor
Payne (VA)
Pelosi
Peterson (MN)
Pickett
Pomeroy
Poshard
Rahall
Rangel
Reed
Richardson
Rivers
Roemer
Rose
Roybal-Allard
Rush
Sabo
Sanders
Sawyer
Schroeder
Schumer
Scott
Serrano
Sisisky
Skaggs
Skelton
Slaughter
Spratt
Stark
Stokes
Studds
Stupak
Tanner
Tejeda
Thompson
Thornton
Thurman
Torres
Traficant
Velazquez
Vento
Visclosky
Volkmer
Ward
Waters
Watt (NC)
Waxman
Williams
Wilson
Wise
Woolsey
Wyden
Wynn
Yates
NOES--229
Allard
Armey
Bachus
Baker (CA)
Baker (LA)
Ballenger
Barr
Barrett (NE)
Bartlett
Barton
Bass
Bateman
Bereuter
Bilbray
Bilirakis
Bliley
Blute
Boehlert
Boehner
Bonilla
Bono
Brewster
Brownback
Bryant (TN)
Bunn
Bunning
Burr
Burton
Buyer
Callahan
Calvert
Camp
Canady
Castle
Chabot
Chambliss
Chenoweth
Christensen
Chrysler
Clinger
Coble
Coburn
Collins (GA)
Combest
Cooley
Cox
Crane
Crapo
Cremeans
Cubin
Cunningham
Davis
Deal
DeLay
Diaz-Balart
Dickey
Doolittle
Dornan
Dreier
Duncan
Dunn
Ehlers
Ehrlich
Emerson
English
Everett
Ewing
Fawell
Flanagan
Foley
Forbes
Fowler
Fox
Frank (MA)
Franks (CT)
Franks (NJ)
Frelinghuysen
Frisa
Funderburk
Gallegly
Ganske
Gekas
Gilchrest
Gillmor
Gilman
Goodlatte
Goodling
Goss
Greenwood
Gunderson
Gutknecht
Hall (TX)
Hancock
Hansen
Hastert
Hastings (WA)
Hayes
Hayworth
Hefley
Heineman
Herger
Hilleary
Hobson
Hoekstra
Hoke
Horn
Hostettler
Houghton
Hutchinson
Hyde
Inglis
Istook
Johnson (CT)
Johnson, Sam
Jones
Kasich
Kelly
Kim
King
Kingston
Klug
Knollenberg
Kolbe
LaHood
Largent
Latham
LaTourette
Laughlin
Lazio
Leach
Lewis (CA)
Lewis (KY)
Lightfoot
Linder
Livingston
LoBiondo
Longley
Lucas
Manzullo
Martini
McCollum
McCrery
McDade
McHugh
McInnis
McIntosh
McKeon
Metcalf
Meyers
Mica
Miller (FL)
Molinari
Moorhead
Morella
Myers
Myrick
Nethercutt
Neumann
Ney
Norwood
Nussle
Oxley
Packard
Parker
Paxon
Petri
Pombo
Porter
Portman
Quillen
Radanovich
Ramstad
Regula
Riggs
Roberts
Rogers
Rohrabacher
Ros-Lehtinen
Roth
Royce
Salmon
Sanford
Saxton
Scarborough
Schaefer
Schiff
Seastrand
Sensenbrenner
Shadegg
Shaw
Shays
Shuster
Skeen
Smith (MI)
Smith (NJ)
Smith (TX)
Smith (WA)
Solomon
Souder
Stearns
Stockman
Stump
Talent
Tate
Tauzin
Taylor (MS)
Taylor (NC)
Thomas
Thornberry
Tiahrt
Torkildsen
Upton
Vucanovich
Waldholtz
Walker
Walsh
Wamp
Watts (OK)
Weldon (FL)
Weldon (PA)
Weller
White
Whitfield
Wicker
Wolf
Young (AK)
Young (FL)
Zeliff
Zimmer
NOT VOTING--27
Abercrombie
Archer
Becerra
Brown (CA)
Dooley
Fields (TX)
Foglietta
Frost
Graham
Hunter
Jefferson
Lantos
Lipinski
Menendez
Mfume
Moakley
Payne (NJ)
Peterson (FL)
Pryce
Quinn
Reynolds
Roukema
Spence
Stenholm
Torricelli
Towns
Tucker
{time} 1819
Mr. VOLKMER changed his vote from ``present'' to ``aye.''
So the motion to table was not agreed to.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Without objection, a motion to reconsider is
laid on the table.
Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. Mr. Speaker, I object.
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Walker). Objection is heard.
Mr DeLAY. Mr. Speaker, I move to reconsider the vote.
motion to table offered by mr. boehner
Mr. BOEHNER. Mr. Speaker. I move to table the motion to reconsider.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the motion offered by the
gentleman from Ohio [Mr. Boehner] to lay on the table the motion to
reconsider offered by the gentleman from Texas [Mr. DeLay].
The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that
the noes appeared to have it.
Mr. BOEHNER. Mr. Speaker, on that I demand the yeas and nays.
The yeas and nays were ordered.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--yeas 230,
nays 180, not voting 24, as follows:
[Roll No. 473]
YEAS--230
Allard
Armey
Bachus
Baker (CA)
Baker (LA)
Ballenger
Barr
Barrett (NE)
Bartlett
Barton
Bass
Bateman
Bereuter
Bilbray
Bilirakis
Bliley
Blute
Boehlert
Boehner
Bonilla
Bono
Brewster
Brownback
Bryant (TN)
Bunn
Bunning
Burr
Burton
Buyer
Callahan
Calvert
Camp
Canady
Castle
Chabot
Chambliss
Chenoweth
Christensen
Chrysler
Clinger
Coble
Coburn
Collins (GA)
Combest
Cooley
Cox
Crane
Crapo
Cremeans
Cubin
Cunningham
Davis
Deal
DeLay
Diaz-Balart
Dickey
Doolittle
Dornan
Dreier
Duncan
Dunn
Ehlers
Ehrlich
Emerson
English
Everett
Ewing
Fawell
Flanagan
Foley
Forbes
Fowler
Fox
Franks (CT)
Franks (NJ)
Frelinghuysen
Frisa
Funderburk
Gallegly
Ganske
Gekas
Gilchrest
Gillmor
Gilman
Goodlatte
Goodling
Goss
Greenwood
Gunderson
Gutknecht
Hall (TX)
Hancock
Hansen
Hastert
Hastings (WA)
Hayes
Hayworth
Hefley
Heineman
Herger
Hilleary
Hobson
Hoekstra
Hoke
Horn
Hostettler
Houghton
Hutchinson
Hyde
Inglis
Istook
Johnson (CT)
Johnson, Sam
Jones
Kasich
Kelly
Kim
King
Kingston
Klug
Knollenberg
Kolbe
LaHood
Largent
Latham
LaTourette
Laughlin
Lazio
Leach
Lewis (CA)
Lewis (KY)
Lightfoot
Linder
Livingston
LoBiondo
Longley
Lucas
Manzullo
Martini
McCollum
McCrery
McDade
McHugh
McInnis
McIntosh
McKeon
Metcalf
Meyers
Mica
Miller (FL)
Molinari
Moorhead
Morella
Myers
Myrick
Nethercutt
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Neumann
Ney
Norwood
Nussle
Oxley
Packard
Parker
Paxon
Petri
Pombo
Porter
Portman
Quillen
Radanovich
Ramstad
Regula
Riggs
Roberts
Rogers
Rohrabacher
Ros-Lehtinen
Roth
Royce
Salmon
Sanford
Saxton
Scarborough
Schaefer
Schiff
Seastrand
Sensenbrenner
Shadegg
Shaw
Shays
Shuster
Skeen
Smith (MI)
Smith (NJ)
Smith (TX)
Smith (WA)
Solomon
Souder
Spence
Stearns
Stockman
Stump
Talent
Tanner
Tate
Tauzin
Taylor (MS)
Taylor (NC)
Thomas
Thornberry
Tiahrt
Torkildsen
Upton
Vucanovich
Waldholtz
Walker
Walsh
Wamp
Watts (OK)
Weldon (FL)
Weldon (PA)
Weller
White
Whitfield
Wicker
Wolf
Young (AK)
Young (FL)
Zeliff
Zimmer
NAYS--180
Ackerman
Andrews
Baesler
Baldacci
Barcia
Barrett (WI)
Beilenson
Bentsen
Berman
Bevill
Bishop
Bonior
Borski
Boucher
Browder
Brown (FL)
Brown (OH)
Bryant (TX)
Cardin
Chapman
Clay
Clayton
Clement
Clyburn
Coleman
Collins (IL)
Collins (MI)
Condit
Conyers
Costello
Coyne
Cramer
Danner
de la Garza
DeFazio
DeLauro
Dellums
Deutsch
Dicks
Dingell
Dixon
Doggett
Doyle
Durbin
Edwards
Engel
Ensign
Eshoo
Evans
Farr
Fattah
Fazio
Fields (LA)
Filner
Flake
Ford
Frank (MA)
Furse
Gejdenson
Gephardt
Geren
Gibbons
Gonzalez
Gordon
Green
Gutierrez
Hall (OH)
Hamilton
Harman
Hastings (FL)
Hefner
Hilliard
Hinchey
Holden
Hoyer
Jackson-Lee
Jacobs
Johnson (SD)
Johnson, E.B.
Johnston
Kanjorski
Kaptur
Kennedy (MA)
Kennedy (RI)
Kennelly
Kildee
Kleczka
Klink
LaFalce
Levin
Lewis (GA)
Lincoln
Lofgren
Lowey
Luther
Maloney
Manton
Markey
Martinez
Mascara
Matsui
McCarthy
McDermott
McHale
McKinney
McNulty
Meehan
Meek
Menendez
Miller (CA)
Mineta
Minge
Mink
Mollohan
Montgomery
Moran
Murtha
Nadler
Neal
Oberstar
Obey
Olver
Ortiz
Orton
Owens
Pallone
Pastor
Payne (VA)
Pelosi
Peterson (MN)
Pickett
Pomeroy
Poshard
Rahall
Rangel
Reed
Richardson
Rivers
Roemer
Rose
Roybal-Allard
Rush
Sabo
Sanders
Sawyer
Schroeder
Schumer
Scott
Serrano
Sisisky
Skaggs
Skelton
Slaughter
Spratt
Stark
Stenholm
Stokes
Studds
Stupak
Tejeda
Thompson
Thornton
Thurman
Torres
Traficant
Velazquez
Vento
Visclosky
Volkmer
Ward
Waters
Watt (NC)
Waxman
Williams
Wilson
Wise
Woolsey
Wyden
Wynn
Yates
NOT VOTING--24
Abercrombie
Archer
Becerra
Brown (CA)
Dooley
Fields (TX)
Foglietta
Frost
Graham
Hunter
Jefferson
Lantos
Lipinski
Mfume
Moakley
Payne (NJ)
Peterson (FL)
Pryce
Quinn
Reynolds
Roukema
Torricelli
Towns
Tucker
{time} 1837
Mr. NEUMANN and Mr. SMITH of Texas changed their vote from ``nay'' to
``yea.''
Mr. ENSIGN changed his vote from ``present'' to ``nay.''
So the motion to table was agreed to.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Ohio [Mr. Boehner] is
recognized for 1 hour.
Mr. BOEHNER. Mr. Speaker, for the purpose of debate only, I yield 15
minutes to the gentleman from Missouri [Mr. Gephardt], the minority
leader.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, as chairman of the Republican Conference, I am pleased
to welcome the gentleman from Texas, Mr. Greg Laughlin, to our party.
Mr. Laughlin saw fit several weeks ago to change parties here in the
House of Representatives, and we are glad to have him on our side of
the aisle.
As a result, about a week and a half ago, the Republican conference
did in fact vote by unanimous vote to place the gentleman from Texas
[Mr. Laughlin] on the Committee on Ways and Means. To my colleagues on
the other side of the aisle who appear to have some chagrin over the
fact we are placing Mr. Laughlin on the Committee on Ways and Means, I
would point out that today Republicans hold about 58 percent of the
seats on the Committee on Ways and Means. It has been since 1923 that
the majority party has had less than 60 percent of the votes on the
Committee on Ways and Means. Historically, that percentage has been a
60 to 40 split between the majority and minority on the Committee on
Ways and Means.
Even after we add Mr. Laughlin to the committee, we will still be
slightly less than the 60 percent that has been the historical average
over the last 70 years. As a matter of fact, in 1955 when the Democrat
Party took control of this House, and they happened to have 232
Members, the same amount that Republicans have today, they had a 60-40
majority on the Committee on Ways and Means.
I would further point out that in December of this year, when the
Republicans took control of the House, it was the decision of the
Republican leadership that there should in fact be a 60 to 40 split on
the Committee on Ways and Means again. After that decision was made,
the minority leader, in consultation with the Speaker and the majority
leader, and, frankly, after much whining about it, we decided that to
ease their pain in terms of the number of Democrat members who were
going to lose their position on the Committee on Ways and Means, that
we would change from the 60 to 40 split that we had decided on, in
order to add just a Democrat member to their side of the aisle on the
Committee on Ways and Means, dropping that percentage down to well less
than 60 percent. So I would remind
all Members that it has been a longstanding tradition and precedent of
the House that each party respects the rights of the other in
appointing its own Members to standing committees of the House.
What has gone on tonight in the politicization of this process by the
minority party I think makes a sad day for this institution. While the
minority party may think they are scoring political points or are
somehow engaged in some highly principled moralistic action, I think
the facts speak otherwise.
Perhaps the saddest part of the charade tonight is that the minority
party seems to have no concern that their dilatory tactics hurt not us
in the majority, but instead grind to a halt the consideration of the
people's business here in the people's House.
To my colleagues on the other side of the aisle, let me be perfectly
clear. We will not see this institution or this Nation's business grind
to a halt because of the childish temper tantrum by some Members on the
other side of the aisle. We will do what is necessary to assure an
orderly consideration of the people's business here in the people's
House.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
{time} 1845
Mr. GEPHARDT. I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, I would like to respond to the case that the
distinguished gentleman from Ohio has made on behalf of the Republican
side. I would like to respond to both what is happening here
procedurally and what is happening substantively.
First, the procedure: The gentleman is correct in saying that in past
Congresses there has been a desire on the part of the majority party on
certain key committees to have a larger ratio than the ratio
represented by the members of the House. Many times in the past, we
have had 60 percent, as Democrats on the Committee on Ways and Means
and on the Committee on Rules. But I would point out that in all of
those times, the ratio that the Democrats represented in the House was
higher than the 53 percent that the Republicans now represent as part
of the House.
Second, when this year started, I did go to the Speaker and I said,
as a result of the change, we have got five members of the Committee on
Ways and Means who are Democrats who will come off. We understood that.
That was part of changing the guard. But I
asked if the committee could be enlarged so that more of the then-
sitting members of Ways and Means could be kept on Ways and Means. And,
yes, one was allowed to stay, and four were knocked off.
But when we had that discussion, it was represented to me that the
chairman of the Committee on Ways and Means, the gentleman from Texas,
very much wanted the committee to stay at
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the number 21 and 15 represents or 36 and that he in no way would allow
the committee to get any larger than that. But yet here we come, a few
weeks later, when there is the possibility of someone switching and
this action is taken.
My colleagues, I think it is wrong. I think it is wrong from a
procedural standpoint. It is wrong in terms of the precedents of this
House. And I think it is wrong for people to be moving with this out
there.
I am not impugning anyone's motives. Anyone can switch parties at any
time. That is a legitimate thing to have happen. But it should be for
the right reasons, not for the wrong reasons. And as long as I am
leader on the Democratic side, I am going to fight for the rights of
the minority on procedure and on ratios on committees, and we will
continue that fight.
Let me talk about the substance. What I think is really going on here
is an attempt, as was pointed out in the Washington Times on Friday,
June 30, 1995, to add a Republican member of senior status to shield
freshman Republicans from having to vote for deep, deep cuts in
Medicare.
I quote, ``Mr. Laughlin likely will provide support for potentially
unpopular reductions in Medicare benefits, should GOP leaders give
three committee freshmen, all of whom won with less than 51 percent of
the vote, permission to vote `no.' ''
My colleagues, what is about to happen in Medicare are the largest
changes to Medicare in the history of the program. If the hints we are
reading in the weekend press are right, we are talking about huge
increases in the premiums for Medicare recipients. If that is what is
going on here, a stacking of the committee in order to make sure those
cuts go through, then this is substantively wrong. If Members on your
side of the aisle believe in these kinds of changes in Medicare,
everybody should vote for it. Why should we be shielding Members from
voting for these kinds of cuts?
Finally, let me tell you what I really think is
going on here. In reading the comments of leaders on the Republican
side for some time now, not just lately, I think there is an effort
here to make Medicare a voluntary program. I think there is an effort
to get rid of Medicare. I think that is what is really at stake.
What I am really concerned about is that these deep, important
changes in Medicare are going to try to be slipped through in 3 or 4
days in September. If we are going to have changes in this program of
this kind, bring the changes out now in July. Give the American people
the right to know what is happening to this program. Make them part of
this debate. Let them be part of the vote of what happens to Medicare.
We should not change this program and make it voluntary without
involving the American people. And I can tell you, this party will
fight those changes every step of the way.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
parliamentary inquiry
Mr. BOEHNER. Mr. Speaker, I have a parliamentary inquiry.
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Walker). The gentleman will state it.
Mr. BOEHNER. Mr. Speaker, is it my understanding that the debate on
this issue should be confined to the resolution that is on the floor of
the House?
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The rules and precedents of the House would
indicate that debate on the matter should relate to the matter before
the House.
Mr. BOEHNER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from
Iowa [Mr. Nussle].
(Mr. NUSSLE asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
Mr. NUSSLE. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding time to
me.
I, as a member of the Committee on Ways and Means, am delighted today
to welcome our newest Republican, the gentleman from Texas, Mr. Greg
Laughlin, to the committee and welcome him to the Republican majority
in the House. I fully expect that this resolution will pass and, as a
member of the committee, we are all looking forward to working with him
on the important issues that we know we need to face this year.
He has been superb and hard working and we know he is going to be a
very articulate member of the committee. As we participate in this
debate today, I think it is important to address some of these trumped-
up and now glossed-over charges, trying to deflect the debate from the
resolution today to scare tactics to senior citizens instead of what we
ought to be talking about, and that is the ratio on the Committee on
Ways and Means, not some trumped-up political charge that the minority
leader or anybody else decides that they are going to do today.
Mr. Speaker, our chairman, the gentleman from Texas [Mr. Archer], has
been and will continue to be very fair to the Democrats, more fair than
they were to us when we were in the minority. Despite the hysteria
coming from some on the minority side, we do not intend to let those
distortions and exaggerations stop us from managing the committee in a
fair-minded and a fair-handed way that earns the respect of the
American people.
First let us talk about the record, about the history of this
committee, which was so glossed over in the last statement. Let me
state for the record that the addition of Congressman Laughlin to the
committee will hold Republicans to 59 percent of the seats on the
Committee on Ways and Means. Not since 1923--the Republicans were in
the majority, by the way, 1923--has the majority party enjoyed less
than 60 percent of the seats on the Committee on Ways and Means,
regardless of the majority ratio in the House of Representatives.
Even when the Democrat majority held just 51 percent in the House,
they received 60 percent of the committee seats. With Congressman
Laughlin on the committee, we will only be at 59. Again, we are being
fairer to them than they ever were to us.
But they say we have 53 percent on the floor and 59 percent in the
committee. That is unfair they say. Well, let me point out that in
1981, following the Reagan landslide, they had 56 percent on the floor
and 66 in committee, a spread of 10 points. We again are fairer to them
than they were to us.
Eighteen times, eighteen times in this century the spread between the
floor and the committee has exceeded or been equal to six points; the
most recent being 1986. Today's spread is exactly six points. Again, we
are fairer to them than they were to us.
I think it also should be noted that in 1955, the last time the
Democrats had 232 seats, which is what we have, the Democrats held 60
percent of the committee. Once more, we are fairer to them than they
were to us.
Mr. Speaker, I think that this is going to be very simple. They have
been stung by defects, and they need to move on to the business of this
country.
Mr. GEPHARDT. Mr. Speaker, I yield such time as he may consume to the
distinguished gentleman from Michigan [Mr. Bonior], the Democratic
whip.
Mr. BONIOR. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding time to
me.
Mr. Speaker, let us not kid ourselves this evening. This debate is
about one simple thing. And while we may talk about representation on
the committee, which, in fact, I believe has been skewed, this debate
is about Medicare. It is about whether or not we should cut Medicare to
provide tax cuts for the wealthiest people in our society. It is about
whether or not we should double Medicare premiums to give a tax break
to the wealthiest corporations in America.
The Republicans have proposed massive tax breaks for the wealthy, and
they came out of the Committee on Ways and Means. To pay for them, they
have proposed the biggest cuts in Medicare, the biggest cuts in
Medicare in the history of this Republic.
point of order
Mr. BOEHNER. Mr. Speaker, I rise to make a point of order.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman will state his point of order.
Mr. BOEHNER. Mr. Speaker, I make a point of order that the gentleman
is not speaking to the relevant issue at head. I make a point of order
that the gentleman in the well, the minority whip, is not talking to
the relevant issue at hand that is in the debate today. The issue is
the seating of the gentleman from Texas [Mr. Laughlin] on the Committee
on Ways and Means. The gentleman proceeded, as others before him have,
to talk about the issue of Medicare, which is not the subject of
debate. As I understand the rules of the
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House, the gentleman should be required to speak to the issue that is
on the floor.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman makes a point of order that
engaging in debate should be on the topic before the House. The
gentleman in the well is reminded that the debate topic before the
House is the resolution with regard to membership on the committee and
debate should be confined to that subject matter.
Mr. BONIOR. Mr. Speaker, I would say to the Members that the members
who serve on that committee will determine that fate of literally 40
million Americans on Medicare. There is no way you can divide or
divorce the issue of who sits on that committee and the issue of what
tax breaks are given, what tax breaks are taken away, what Medicare
benefits are given, what Medicare benefits are taken away, what
Medicaid benefits are given, what Medicaid benefits are taken away.
They are bound together.
As last Saturday's Washington Times pointed out, they want to raise
the Medicaid premiums, those who serve on that committee, by 110
million a month, my Republican colleagues, that is. And to pass their
plan, they are trying, Mr. Speaker, to stack the committee that will
vote on it.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman is requested by the Chair to
proceed in order.
Mr. BONIOR. As this Washington Times article points out, ``Mr.
Laughlin will provide support for potentially unpopular reductions in
Medicare benefits, should the GOP leaders give three committee
freshman, all of whom won with less than 51 percent of vote, permission
to vote no.'' Which raises the question, which raises the question,
what will Mr. Laughlin do on this committee? Will he cover for these
three freshmen? It is an interesting question. Mr. Laughlin ought to
tell the American people. He ought to tell the people of the district
what are his intentions with respect to Medicare, if he is going to
serve as a member of this committee.
point of order
Mr. BOEHNER. Mr. Speaker, I rise to a point of order.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman will state his point of order.
Mr. BOEHNER. Mr. Speaker, I make a point of order that the gentleman
in the well is questioning the motives of the gentleman that is in
question on the resolution appointing him to the committee.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman at this point has not named
any member of the Committee on Ways and Means. The gentleman is
reminded, however, that he has an obligation to the rules of the House
to proceed in order.
Mr. BONIOR. The gentleman from Michigan is indeed proceeding in
order. He is proceeding in order of the needs and the will of 40
million Americans who are concerned about Medicare. He is proceeding in
order to take care of the needs of the people in this country who
depend upon Medicaid.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman is reminded that proceeding in
order is proceeding under the rules of the House, and the Chair would
request the gentleman to abide by the rules of debate in the House of
Representatives.
Mr. BONIOR. Mr. Speaker, I would like to pose a question to the
Speaker then. The question is this, how does the Speaker intend to
separate those who serve on the committee from the jurisdiction which
they have on that committee? What is the dividing line? Would the Chair
give a ruling to this Member on where the dividing line is?
{time} 1900
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Walker). The resolution before the House
is on the election of the gentleman from Texas [Mr. Laughlin] to the
committee. The subject matter before the House is not what he plans to
do once he joins the committee. The gentleman will confine himself to
the issue before the House.
Mr. HOYER. Mr. Speaker, will the Speaker yield to pursue that
question?
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Michigan [Mr. Bonior]
controls the time.
Parliamentary Inquiry
Mr. HOYER. Parliamentary inquiry, Mr. Speaker.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Does the gentleman from Michigan [Mr.
Bonior] yield for a parliamentary inquiry?
Mr. HOYER. He does not have to, I do not believe, Mr. Speaker.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Michigan controls the
time. Does the gentleman from Michigan yield for a parliamentary
inquiry?
Mr. BONIOR. I yield to the gentleman from Maryland [Mr. Hoyer].
Mr. HOYER. Mr. Speaker, I do not want to ask the gentleman to use his
time for a parliamentary inquiry.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Michigan controls the
time. According to the rules of the House, the gentleman from Michigan
will have to yield.
Mr. HOYER. Parliamentary inquiry, Mr. Speaker. Is it the Speaker's
ruling that I cannot raise a parliamentary inquiry unless the gentleman
yields to me? Is it the Speaker's ruling that somebody cannot make a
parliamentary inquiry?
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Maryland is correct. As
long as the gentleman from Michigan controls the floor, he would have
to yield to the gentleman from Maryland for a parliamentary inquiry.
The gentleman from Ohio [Mr. Boehner] raised a point of order, after
his parliamentary inquiry. The gentleman from Michigan [Mr. Bonior]
would have to yield for the purpose of a parliamentary inquiry.
Mr. BONIOR. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, I think people are getting the message here. The message
that the majority is raising is that we have been shut out from active
participation on this committee as a result of the ratios in which the
minority, which was represented, by the way, by the comments of the
Speaker just a few seconds ago, which have shackled the Members of the
minority from expressing their views on these key questions. We are
here to say that the questions on that committee, the jurisdictional
questions of Medicare and Medicaid, are too important, Mr. Speaker, for
us to be shackled.
Mr. Speaker, the gentleman from Iowa [Mr. Nussle] came to the well a
few minutes ago and gave some statistics. What he did not tell us is
that in the last 10 years, the difference between the majority
representation and the number of people on the Committee on Ways and
Means is much, much, much different than what he alluded to. In the
100th Congress, Democrats had 59 percent of this body, and in that same
Congress, we had 62 percent on the Committee on Ways and Means, a
difference of about 3
percent.
In the 101st Congress the difference was 5 percent. In the 100 and
102d it was 2.35 percent, and in the 103d Congress it was 3.9 percent.
In this Congress, with the addition of the gentleman from Texas [Mr.
Laughlin] to the committee, it will be 6.4 percent. That is not fair.
That is not right.
I would say to the Speaker that he, as well as others in this party,
have said on numerous occasions, numerous occasions to this body, that
there should be an equal proportionate representation between the
number of Members who are in this full body and those who serve on
committees. Yet, here we go, with an egregious padding or stacking of
the committee.
Mr. Speaker, I want to say on behalf of my colleagues that we will
not stand, we will not stand, to have $40 million Americans
disenfranchised on key votes with respect to their health care. We will
not stand for the same type of activities with respect to tax cut for
the very wealthy in this country, and on Medicaid.
Mr. Speaker, let me just conclude my suggesting that we say no
to this resolution, and that the leader and the Speaker and
the majority leader get together and figure out a way to give fair
representation, in the spirit in which the gentleman from Pennsylvania
[Mr. Walker] advocated that representation lo the many years that he
was in the minority.
Mr. GEPHARDT. Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. BOEHNER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from
Arizona [Mr. Hayworth].
Mr. HAYWORTH. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from Ohio for
yielding time to me.
Mr. Speaker, it is absolutely fascinating to listen to the guardians
of the old order, the new minority, espouse a form of institutional
amnesia. I may not have been here in previous Congresses, but thanks to
C-
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SPAN and thanks to the history books, we can take a look and we can see
what happened time and again in this Chamber. Debate was shut up.
People were stifled. We had a decision that existed that was egregious.
point of order
Mr. BONIOR. Point of order, Mr. Speaker. The gentleman is not talking
about the resolution and he is off the issue.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Arizona [Mr. Hayworth]
must confine himself to the subject matter of the resolution before the
House.
Mr. HAYWORTH. Mr. Speaker, I listened with great interest, and I
thank the ruling of the Chair, and I thank my friend who is the whip on
the other side.
I would also point out that what is past is prologue. That is written
across the forum in the National Achieves, and it is true. The fact is,
and this is absolutely germane, not since 1923 has the majority party
enjoyed less than 60 percent of the seats on the Committee on Ways and
Means. Mr. Speaker, with the addition of the gentleman from Texas [Mr.
Laughlin] we are at 59 percent.
To my friends on the other side of the aisle, Mr. Speaker, it is
absolutely germane to realize this fact. There is a new majority
exercising the will of the American people. Get over it. Help us
govern.
Mr. GEPHARDT. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from
Montana [Mr. Williams].
Mr. WILLIAMS. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding time to
me.
Mr. Speaker, this may not be about Medicare, and I do not think it is
about party affiliation or moving between parties. After all, Mr.
Speaker, most Americans vote for a variety of candidates. Most
Americans claim they are, in fact, independent. The election and the
polls show, of course, that most people, when they make those choices,
associates most closely with Democrats in their votes, and when you
poll most independents, they say they believe they lean mostly to the
Democratic Party. But this is not about affiliation. People move
between parties all the time. I will bet all of Members' constituents,
almost without exception, refuse to vote a straight party line.
This is not about candidates in one part or the other, one region or
the other of the country, moving from one party to the other, although
I must say that both the overtones and the undercurrent of the use of
race in the South by the right is troublesome, and it should be beneath
the party of Eisenhower and Lincoln.
Mr. BOEHNER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from
Pennsylvania [Mr. English].
Mr. ENGLISH of Pennsylvania. Mr. Speaker, I rise as a Member of the
Committee on Ways and Means, and as a freshman, to welcome the
gentleman from Texas [Mr. Laughlin] to our committee and to our party,
an event so seismic that it has made the minority leader an advocate of
minority rights on the House floor, and made the minority leader a
reader of the Washington Times, which is extraordinary.
Mr. Speaker, I realize that some of the speakers on the other side
have tried to stay on message and frighten senior citizens, but what
they have omitted and what I would like to say is that the gentleman
from Texas [Mr. Laughlin] is qualified, he is a principled advocate of
taxpayers, and that is why so many here are opposed to him. He is an
effective leader who has a skill that he demonstrated, prior to
switching, of working across party lines, and that is something that
ought to be learned on the other side.
Additionally, they have left out the fact that this ratio is fair,
even if it is annoying to the advocates of higher taxes and the
opponents of welfare reform. The American people will not be fooled.
Mr. GEPHARDT. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from
Michigan [Mr. Bonior].
Mr. BONIOR. Mr. Speaker, I rise for the purpose of letting my friend,
the gentleman from Pennsylvania and the Speaker at the present time in
the House of Representatives, know of the words of his friend, the
Speaker of the House, the gentleman from Georgia [Mr. Gingrich].
The gentleman from Georgia said on September 27, 1990, in the
Congressional Record, and I quote:
I would think that the Chair would want to accept the fact
that in a free country, people often talk very widely about a
wide range of issues. We think that freedom of debate and
freedom of speech are not only important when burning the
flag, but they are even important on the House floor. I hope
that for the rest of the day the Chair, in the spirit of good
humor, will tolerate a certain level of freedom of speech to
reflect the nature of the House at its best.
I would hope that the Speaker would take his good friend's words at
heart.
Mr. BOEHNER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from New
York [Mr. Paxon].
Mr. PAXON. Mr. Speaker, when the Democrats give a big tax liberal a
seat on the Committee on Ways and Means, they call it good government.
However, when Republicans give a smaller tax, smaller government
conservative a seat on the Committee on Ways and Means, the Democrats
say something is wrong with that. The truth is today's debate has
nothing to do at all with selling out or with Medicare or anything
else. It has to do with sour grapes.
For years the Democrats' liberal leadership has used conservatives.
They have promised them seats on important committees, like the
Committee on Ways and Means, but when it came time to deliver, it was
not done.
Point of order
Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. Point of order, Mr. Speaker. My point of
order is that unless the Speaker has taken the words of the gentleman
from Michigan to heart, that violates the subject of the Speaker's
previous instructions, Mr. Speaker. It is off the point of the issue of
appointing the gentleman from Texas [Mr. Laughlin].
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from New York [Mr. Paxon] is
reminded he must proceed in order.
Mr. PAXON. Mr. Speaker, the truth about this whole committee's
assignment brouhaha brought up by our friends across the aisle is that
the liberal leadership wants conservative bodies in their caucus but
does not want to deliver for them on this House floor. Now they are
angry that the gentleman from Texas, Greg Laughlin, the gentleman from
Georgia, Nathan Deal, Richard Shelby, Senator Campbell, and about 100
State and local Democrats have switched parties. That is what this
debate is about here.
point of order
Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. Point of order, Mr. Speaker. This clearly
violates the spirit of the Speaker's previous instructions. I would
like to be clear that unless we are going to have one test of rules for
this party and another set of rules for the other, that clearly
violates what the gentleman stated to the gentleman from Michigan [Mr.
Bonior].
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Chair had reminded Members on both sides
of the aisle when the question has been raised that they are to proceed
in order. The Chair would continue to say to both sides of the aisle in
fairness that they must proceed in order on the resolution. The subject
matter under discussion is the election of the gentleman from Texas
[Mr. Laughlin] on the Committee on Ways and Means. That should be the
subject of the discussion on the floor.
Mr. PAXON. Mr. Speaker, the election of the gentleman from Texas,
Greg Laughlin, to a seat on this committee is about putting people on
this committee who will stand up for the right things in this
community, in this country, and on this floor. I support strongly the
resolution before us today.
Mr. GEPHARDT. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from
Kentucky [Mr. Ward].
Mr. WARD. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from Missouri for
yielding time to me.
Mr. Speaker, I think what we need to do is remember and remind the
folks at home who are watching, at least in Louisville, KY, it is just
after dinnertime and they may have surfed and ended on C-SPAN, or they
may be watching it on purpose. No matter which, what we need to remind
them is the Committee on Ways and Means, who knows what these words
mean, but we know it means the Medicare committee, because that is what
is going to be dealt with in the next 30 days in that committee. That,
according to the Washington Times, is one reason that
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is suggested that the Republican majority has changed the rules in
midstream.
As I understand it, never before had the majority changed the world
in midstream, changed the number, added somebody, just added somebody
to the committee in the middle of the Congress. No. The ratios were set
at the beginning and they were kept, so we have to ask ourselves, was
it done, as the Washington Times suggested, in order to save a freshman
a tough vote?
Mr. BOEHNER. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from
California [Mr. Thomas].
(Mr. THOMAS asked and was given permission to revise and extend his
remarks.)
Mr. THOMAS. Mr. Speaker, my understanding is the resolution in front
of us is whether or not the gentleman from Texas [Mr. Laughlin] shall
be assigned to the Committee on Ways and Means.
At the beginning the 104th Congress the gentleman from Texas [Mr.
Laughlin] was a Democrat. He currently is a Republican. The ratio on
the Committee on Ways and Means is 21 to 15. I know for a fact that the
chairman of the Committee on Ways and Means, the gentleman from Texas
[Mr. Archer], argued long and hard for a ration of 21 to 14. He was
denied his wishes of that committee ratio by the wisdom of leadership,
because the minority leader begged him to put another Democrat on. So
when we started, it was 21 to 15. They got their Democrat at the
beginning. It was not what we wanted.
If we add the gentleman from Texas [Mr. Laughlin] as a Republican,
the ratio will be 22 to 15. That is still not 60 percent; 21 to 15 is
not 60 percent; 22 to 15 is not 60 percent. I have been on the
Committee on Ways and Means since 1983. It has been between 63 and 66
percent loaded in favor of the majority in that entire time, so it is
not about ratio.
One of the difficulties we have in examining this
business of party switchers is because in the brief 17 years that I
have been in Congress I have never seen anybody from this side of the
aisle decide not be a Republican and go over there. In the time that I
have been here, I have seen a number of Democrats come over here.
One of the reasons we are pleased to welcome the gentleman from Texas
[Mr. Laughlin] is that we like his position on the issues. I do not see
anything wrong at all in taking someone that you like on the issues and
giving them a position of prominence in areas in which we are going to
have significant votes.
The Committee on Ways and Means in this jurisdiction is, with all due
respect as a member of the committee, an important committee. It deals
with all the taxes. It deals with Social Security. It deals with
welfare. Yes, it deals with Medicare.
What we want to do is take the issues position of the gentleman from
Texas [Mr. Laughlin], who was recently a Democrat, and now a
Republican, and meld him with all of the other Republicans on the
committee, who I might remind the Members represent a percentage of the
total committee less than the Democrat-Republican ratio when they were
a majority for the entire time I have been on the committee.
{time} 1915
What is your problem? That you want more Republicans to reflect the
ratio that used to be there? We are not doing that. That you want
Democrats to quit leaving your party and become Republicans? Then
change your positions. If you do not, if you keep the same leadership,
advocating the same position, there are going to be more Republicans
over here before the election by virtue of people continuing to switch.
Is that your problem, that you do not like switchers, or is it that
you have no substantive point to make and so you are arguing items that
are irrelevant?
Let's make the gentleman from Texas [Mr. Laughlin] a member of the
Committee on Ways and Means.
Mr. GEPHARDT. Mr. Speaker, I yield our remaining 1 minute to the
gentleman from New York [Mr. Nadler].
Mr. NADLER. Mr. Speaker, I want to talk for the moment about the
scope of debate on the floor of the House and to defend it against the
attitude of the acting Speaker. The resolution before the House is the
election of the gentleman from Texas [Mr. Laughlin] to the Committee on
Ways and Means.
When someone is up for election, he is a candidate. The candidate's
views are relevant, the candidate's intentions are relevant. The fact
that the intentions of those who are putting him there may be to make
it easier to enact great cuts in Medicare, they are relevant. The fact
that the intentions of those who are putting him there may be to put
someone there who is opposed to taxes, that is relevant. The fact that
they may be doing that because they enticed him and because they are
selling committee seats for switches in party, if someone wants to say
that, that would be relevant. I am not saying those things, though I
think they are true.
The fact that this leadership is doing these things is all relevant.
Mr. BOEHNER. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself our remaining 1 minute.
Mr. Speaker, the facts are this: The facts are that since January of
this year, four Democrats, two in the House and two in the Senate, have
switched parties, more than in any 2-year cycle in the history of our
country. As long as they continue to switch parties, guess what? We as
Republican Members, as the majority, have to find a committee to put
them on. Tonight we are proud to bring to this floor a resolution
putting the latest Democrat to switch parties on the Committee on Ways
and Means.
Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time, and I move the
previous question on the resolution.
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Walker). The question is on ordering the
previous question.
The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that
the noes appeared to have it.
Mr. BOEHNER. Mr. Speaker, I object to the vote on the ground that a
quorum is not present and make the point of order that a quorum is not
present.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Evidently a quorum is not present.
The Chair may reduce to 5 minutes the vote on passage of the
resolution, if ordered.
The Sergeant at Arms will notify absent Members.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--yeas 233,
nays 179, not voting 22, as follows:
[Roll No. 474]
YEAS--233
Allard
Archer
Armey
Bachus
Baker (CA)
Baker (LA)
Ballenger
Barr
Barrett (NE)
Bartlett
Barton
Bass
Bateman
Bereuter
Bilbray
Bilirakis
Bliley
Blute
Boehlert
Boehner
Bonilla
Bono
Brewster
Brownback
Bryant (TN)
Bunn
Bunning
Burr
Burton
Buyer
Callahan
Calvert
Camp
Canady
Castle
Chabot
Chambliss
Chenoweth
Christensen
Chrysler
Clinger
Coble
Coburn
Collins (GA)
Combest
Cooley
Cox
Crane
Crapo
Cremeans
Cubin
Cunningham
Davis
Deal
DeLay
Diaz-Balart
Dickey
Doolittle
Dornan
Dreier
Duncan
Dunn
Ehlers
Ehrlich
Emerson
English
Ensign
Everett
Ewing
Fawell
Flanagan
Foley
Fowler
Fox
Frank (MA)
Franks (CT)
Franks (NJ)
Frelinghuysen
Frisa
Funderburk
Gallegly
Ganske
Gekas
Gilchrest
Gillmor
Gilman
Goodlatte
Goodling
Goss
Graham
Greenwood
Gunderson
Gutknecht
Hall (TX)
Hancock
Hansen
Hastert
Hastings (WA)
Hayes
Hayworth
Hefley
Heineman
Herger
Hilleary
Hobson
Hoekstra
Hoke
Horn
Hostettler
Houghton
Hutchinson
Hyde
Inglis
Istook
Johnson (CT)
Johnson, Sam
Jones
Kasich
Kelly
Kim
King
Kingston
Klug
Knollenberg
Kolbe
LaHood
Largent
Latham
LaTourette
Laughlin
Lazio
Leach
Lewis (CA)
Lewis (KY)
Lightfoot
Linder
Livingston
LoBiondo
Longley
Lucas
Manzullo
Martini
McCollum
McCrery
McDade
McHugh
McInnis
McIntosh
McKeon
Metcalf
Meyers
Mica
Miller (FL)
Molinari
Moorhead
Morella
Myers
Myrick
Nethercutt
Neumann
Ney
Norwood
Nussle
Oxley
Packard
Parker
Paxon
Petri
Pombo
Porter
Portman
Quillen
Quinn
Radanovich
Ramstad
Regula
Riggs
Roberts
Rogers
Rohrabacher
Ros-Lehtinen
Roth
Roukema
Royce
Salmon
Sanford
Saxton
Scarborough
Schaefer
Schiff
Seastrand
Sensenbrenner
Shadegg
Shaw
Shays
[[Page H 6722]]
Shuster
Skeen
Smith (NJ)
Smith (TX)
Smith (WA)
Solomon
Souder
Spence
Stearns
Stockman
Stump
Talent
Tate
Tauzin
Taylor (MS)
Taylor (NC)
Thomas
Thornberry
Tiahrt
Torkildsen
Upton
Vucanovich
Waldholtz
Walker
Walsh
Wamp
Watts (OK)
Weldon (FL)
Weldon (PA)
Weller
White
Whitfield
Wicker
Wolf
Young (AK)
Young (FL)
Zeliff
Zimmer
NAYS--179
Ackerman
Andrews
Baesler
Baldacci
Barcia
Barrett (WI)
Beilenson
Bentsen
Berman
Bevill
Bishop
Bonior
Borski
Boucher
Browder
Brown (FL)
Brown (OH)
Bryant (TX)
Cardin
Chapman
Clay
Clayton
Clement
Clyburn
Coleman
Collins (IL)
Collins (MI)
Condit
Conyers
Costello
Coyne
Cramer
Danner
de la Garza
DeFazio
DeLauro
Dellums
Deutsch
Dicks
Dingell
Dixon
Doggett
Doyle
Durbin
Edwards
Engel
Eshoo
Evans
Farr
Fattah
Fazio
Fields (LA)
Filner
Flake
Ford
Furse
Gejdenson
Gephardt
Geren
Gibbons
Gonzalez
Gordon
Green
Gutierrez
Hall (OH)
Hamilton
Harman
Hastings (FL)
Hefner
Hilliard
Hinchey
Holden
Hoyer
Jackson-Lee
Jacobs
Johnson (SD)
Johnson, E. B.
Johnston
Kanjorski
Kaptur
Kennedy (MA)
Kennedy (RI)
Kennelly
Kildee
Kleczka
Klink
LaFalce
Levin
Lewis (GA)
Lincoln
Lofgren
Lowey
Luther
Maloney
Manton
Markey
Martinez
Mascara
Matsui
McCarthy
McDermott
McHale
McKinney
McNulty
Meehan
Meek
Menendez
Miller (CA)
Mineta
Minge
Mink
Mollohan
Montgomery
Murtha
Nadler
Neal
Oberstar
Obey
Olver
Ortiz
Orton
Owens
Pallone
Pastor
Payne (NJ)
Payne (VA)
Pelosi
Peterson (MN)
Pickett
Pomeroy
Poshard
Rahall
Rangel
Reed
Richardson
Rivers
Roemer
Rose
Roybal-Allard
Rush
Sabo
Sanders
Sawyer
Schroeder
Schumer
Scott
Serrano
Sisisky
Skaggs
Skelton
Slaughter
Spratt
Stenholm
Stokes
Studds
Stupak
Tanner
Tejeda
Thompson
Thornton
Thurman
Torres
Torricelli
Traficant
Velazquez
Vento
Visclosky
Volkmer
Ward
Waters
Watt (NC)
Waxman
Williams
Wilson
Wise
Woolsey
Wyden
Wynn
Yates
NOT VOTING--22
Abercrombie
Becerra
Brown (CA)
Dooley
Fields (TX)
Foglietta
Forbes
Frost
Hunter
Jefferson
Lantos
Lipinski
Mfume
Moakley
Moran
Peterson (FL)
Pryce
Reynolds
Smith (MI)
Stark
Towns
Tucker
{time} 1937
So the previous question was ordered.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Walker). The question is on the
resolution.
Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. Mr. Speaker, I move to reconsider the
vote by which the previous question was ordered.
motion to table offered by mr. boehner
Mr. BOEHNER. Mr. Speaker, I move to lay the motion to reconsider on
the table.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the motion offered by the
gentleman from Ohio [Mr. Boehner] to lay on the table the motion to
reconsider offered by the gentleman from Massachusetts [Mr. Frank].
The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that
the ayes appeared to have it.
recorded vote
Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. Mr. Speaker, I demand a recorded vote.
A recorded vote was ordered.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. This is a 15-minute vote followed by a
possible 5-minute vote.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 233,
noes 181, not voting 20, as follows:
[Roll No. 475]
AYES--233
Allard
Archer
Armey
Bachus
Baker (CA)
Baker (LA)
Ballenger
Barr
Barrett (NE)
Bartlett
Barton
Bass
Bateman
Bereuter
Bilbray
Bilirakis
Bliley
Blute
Boehlert
Boehner
Bonilla
Bono
Brewster
Brownback
Bryant (TN)
Bunn
Bunning
Burr
Burton
Buyer
Callahan
Calvert
Camp
Canady
Castle
Chabot
Chambliss
Chenoweth
Christensen
Chrysler
Clinger
Coble
Coburn
Collins (GA)
Combest
Cooley
Cox
Crane
Crapo
Cremeans
Cubin
Cunningham
Davis
Deal
DeLay
Diaz-Balart
Dickey
Doolittle
Dornan
Dreier
Duncan
Dunn
Ehlers
Ehrlich
Emerson
English
Ensign
Everett
Ewing
Fawell
Flanagan
Foley
Forbes
Fowler
Fox
Franks (CT)
Franks (NJ)
Frelinghuysen
Frisa
Funderburk
Gallegly
Ganske
Gekas
Gilchrest
Gillmor
Gilman
Goodlatte
Goodling
Goss
Graham
Greenwood
Gunderson
Gutknecht
Hall (TX)
Hancock
Hansen
Hastert
Hastings (WA)
Hayes
Hayworth
Hefley
Heineman
Herger
Hilleary
Hobson
Hoekstra
Hoke
Horn
Hostettler
Houghton
Hutchinson
Hyde
Inglis
Istook
Johnson (CT)
Johnson, Sam
Jones
Kasich
Kelly
Kennedy (MA)
Kim
King
Kingston
Klug
Knollenberg
Kolbe
LaHood
Largent
Latham
LaTourette
Laughlin
Lazio
Leach
Lewis (CA)
Lewis (KY)
Lightfoot
Linder
LoBiondo
Longley
Lucas
Manzullo
Martini
McCollum
McCrery
McDade
McHugh
McInnis
McIntosh
McKeon
Metcalf
Meyers
Mica
Miller (FL)
Molinari
Moorhead
Morella
Myers
Myrick
Nethercutt
Neumann
Ney
Norwood
Nussle
Oxley
Packard
Parker
Paxon
Petri
Pombo
Porter
Portman
Quillen
Quinn
Radanovich
Ramstad
Regula
Riggs
Roberts
Rogers
Rohrabacher
Ros-Lehtinen
Roth
Roukema
Royce
Salmon
Sanford
Saxton
Scarborough
Schaefer
Schiff
Seastrand
Sensenbrenner
Shadegg
Shaw
Shays
Shuster
Skeen
Smith (NJ)
Smith (TX)
Smith (WA)
Solomon
Souder
Spence
Stearns
Stockman
Stump
Talent
Tate
Tauzin
Taylor (MS)
Taylor (NC)
Thomas
Thornberry
Tiahrt
Torkildsen
Upton
Vucanovich
Waldholtz
Walker
Walsh
Wamp
Watts (OK)
Weldon (FL)
Weldon (PA)
Weller
White
Whitfield
Wicker
Wolf
Young (AK)
Young (FL)
Zeliff
Zimmer
NOES--181
Ackerman
Andrews
Baesler
Baldacci
Barcia
Barrett (WI)
Beilenson
Bentsen
Berman
Bevill
Bishop
Bonior
Borski
Boucher
Browder
Brown (FL)
Brown (OH)
Bryant (TX)
Cardin
Chapman
Clay
Clayton
Clement
Clyburn
Coleman
Collins (IL)
Collins (MI)
Condit
Conyers
Costello
Coyne
Cramer
Danner
de la Garza
DeFazio
DeLauro
Dellums
Deutsch
Dicks
Dingell
Dixon
Doggett
Doyle
Durbin
Edwards
Engel
Eshoo
Evans
Farr
Fattah
Fazio
Fields (LA)
Filner
Flake
Ford
Frank (MA)
Furse
Gejdenson
Gephardt
Geren
Gibbons
Gonzalez
Gordon
Green
Gutierrez
Hall (OH)
Hamilton
Harman
Hastings (FL)
Hefner
Hilliard
Hinchey
Holden
Hoyer
Jackson-Lee
Jacobs
Johnson (SD)
Johnson, E. B.
Johnston
Kanjorski
Kaptur
Kennedy (RI)
Kennelly
Kildee
Kleczka
Klink
LaFalce
Levin
Lewis (GA)
Lincoln
Lipinski
Lofgren
Lowey
Luther
Maloney
Manton
Markey
Martinez
Mascara
Matsui
McCarthy
McDermott
McHale
McKinney
McNulty
Meehan
Meek
Menendez
Miller (CA)
Mineta
Minge
Mink
Mollohan
Montgomery
Moran
Murtha
Nadler
Neal
Oberstar
Obey
Olver
Ortiz
Orton
Owens
Pallone
Pastor
Payne (NJ)
Payne (VA)
Pelosi
Peterson (FL)
Peterson (MN)
Pickett
Pomeroy
Poshard
Rahall
Rangel
Reed
Richardson
Rivers
Roemer
Rose
Roybal-Allard
Rush
Sabo
Sanders
Sawyer
Schroeder
Schumer
Scott
Serrano
Sisisky
Skelton
Slaughter
Spratt
Stenholm
Stokes
Studds
Stupak
Tanner
Tejeda
Thompson
Thornton
Thurman
Torres
Torricelli
Traficant
Velazquez
Vento
Visclosky
Volkmer
Ward
Waters
Watt (NC)
Waxman
Williams
Wilson
Wise
Woolsey
Wyden
Wynn
Yates
NOT VOTING--20
Abercrombie
Becerra
Brown (CA)
Dooley
Fields (TX)
Foglietta
Frost
Hunter
Jefferson
Lantos
Livingston
Mfume
Moakley
Pryce
Reynolds
Skaggs
Smith (MI)
Stark
Towns
Tucker
{time} 1955
Mr. GEJDENSON changed his vote from ``aye'' to ``no.''
Mr. TALENT changed his vote from ``no'' to ``aye.''
So the motion to table the motion to reconsider was agreed to.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
[[Page H 6723]]
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Walker). The question is on the
resolution.
The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that
the ayes appeared to have it.
Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. Mr. Speaker, on that I demand the yeas
and nays.
The yeas and nays were ordered.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. This will be a 5-minute vote.
The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--yeas 248,
nays 162, not voting 24, as follows:
[Roll No. 476]
YEAS--248
Allard
Archer
Armey
Bachus
Baesler
Baker (CA)
Baker (LA)
Ballenger
Barr
Barrett (NE)
Bartlett
Barton
Bass
Bateman
Bereuter
Bilbray
Bilirakis
Bliley
Blute
Boehlert
Boehner
Bonilla
Bono
Brewster
Browder
Brownback
Bryant (TN)
Bunn
Bunning
Burr
Burton
Buyer
Callahan
Calvert
Camp
Canady
Castle
Chabot
Chambliss
Chapman
Chenoweth
Christensen
Chrysler
Clinger
Coble
Coburn
Collins (GA)
Combest
Condit
Cooley
Cox
Cramer
Crane
Crapo
Cremeans
Cubin
Cunningham
Davis
Deal
DeLay
Diaz-Balart
Dickey
Doolittle
Dornan
Dreier
Duncan
Dunn
Ehlers
Ehrlich
Emerson
English
Ensign
Everett
Ewing
Fawell
Fields (TX)
Flanagan
Foley
Forbes
Fowler
Fox
Franks (CT)
Franks (NJ)
Frelinghuysen
Frisa
Funderburk
Gallegly
Ganske
Gekas
Geren
Gilchrest
Gilman
Goodlatte
Goodling
Goss
Graham
Greenwood
Gunderson
Gutknecht
Hall (TX)
Hancock
Hansen
Hastings (WA)
Hayes
Hayworth
Hefley
Heineman
Herger
Hilleary
Hobson
Hoekstra
Hoke
Horn
Hostettler
Houghton
Hutchinson
Hyde
Inglis
Istook
Johnson (CT)
Johnson, Sam
Jones
Kasich
Kelly
Kim
King
Kingston
Klug
Knollenberg
Kolbe
LaHood
Largent
Latham
LaTourette
Laughlin
Lazio
Leach
Lewis (CA)
Lewis (KY)
Lightfoot
Linder
Livingston
LoBiondo
Longley
Lucas
Manzullo
Martini
McCollum
McCrery
McDade
McHugh
McInnis
McIntosh
McKeon
Metcalf
Meyers
Mica
Miller (FL)
Molinari
Montgomery
Moorhead
Morella
Murtha
Myers
Myrick
Nethercutt
Neumann
Ney
Norwood
Nussle
Packard
Parker
Paxon
Payne (VA)
Peterson (MN)
Petri
Pickett
Pombo
Porter
Portman
Quillen
Quinn
Radanovich
Rahall
Ramstad
Regula
Riggs
Roberts
Rogers
Rohrabacher
Ros-Lehtinen
Rose
Roth
Roukema
Royce
Salmon
Sanford
Saxton
Scarborough
Schaefer
Schiff
Seastrand
Sensenbrenner
Shadegg
Shaw
Shays
Shuster
Sisisky
Skeen
Smith (NJ)
Smith (TX)
Smith (WA)
Solomon
Souder
Spence
Stearns
Stockman
Stump
Talent
Tanner
Tate
Tauzin
Taylor (MS)
Taylor (NC)
Thomas
Thornberry
Tiahrt
Torkildsen
Traficant
Upton
Vucanovich
Waldholtz
Walker
Walsh
Wamp
Watts (OK)
Weldon (FL)
Weldon (PA)
Weller
White
Whitfield
Wicker
Wilson
Wolf
Young (AK)
Young (FL)
Zeliff
Zimmer
NAYS--162
Ackerman
Andrews
Baldacci
Barcia
Barrett (WI)
Beilenson
Bentsen
Berman
Bevill
Bishop
Bonior
Borski
Boucher
Brown (FL)
Brown (OH)
Bryant (TX)
Cardin
Clay
Clayton
Clement
Clyburn
Coleman
Collins (IL)
Collins (MI)
Conyers
Costello
Coyne
Danner
de la Garza
DeLauro
Dellums
Deutsch
Dicks
Dingell
Dixon
Doggett
Doyle
Durbin
Edwards
Engel
Eshoo
Evans
Farr
Fattah
Fazio
Fields (LA)
Filner
Flake
Ford
Frank (MA)
Furse
Gejdenson
Gephardt
Gibbons
Gonzalez
Gordon
Green
Gutierrez
Hall (OH)
Hamilton
Harman
Hastings (FL)
Hefner
Hilliard
Hinchey
Holden
Hoyer
Jackson-Lee
Jacobs
Johnson (SD)
Johnson, E. B.
Johnston
Kanjorski
Kaptur
Kennedy (MA)
Kennedy (RI)
Kennelly
Kildee
Kleczka
Klink
LaFalce
Levin
Lincoln
Lipinski
Lofgren
Lowey
Luther
Maloney
Manton
Markey
Martinez
Mascara
Matsui
McCarthy
McDermott
McHale
McKinney
McNulty
Meehan
Meek
Menendez
Miller (CA)
Mineta
Minge
Mink
Mollohan
Moran
Neal
Oberstar
Obey
Olver
Ortiz
Orton
Owens
Pallone
Pastor
Payne (NJ)
Pelosi
Peterson (FL)
Pomeroy
Poshard
Rangel
Reed
Richardson
Rivers
Roemer
Roybal-Allard
Rush
Sabo
Sanders
Sawyer
Schroeder
Schumer
Scott
Serrano
Skaggs
Skelton
Slaughter
Spratt
Stenholm
Stokes
Studds
Stupak
Tejeda
Thompson
Thornton
Thurman
Torres
Torricelli
Velazquez
Vento
Visclosky
Volkmer
Ward
Waters
Watt (NC)
Waxman
Williams
Wise
Woolsey
Wyden
Wynn
NOT VOTING--24
Abercrombie
Becerra
Brown (CA)
DeFazio
Dooley
Foglietta
Frost
Gillmor
Hastert
Hunter
Jefferson
Lantos
Lewis (GA)
Mfume
Moakley
Nadler
Oxley
Pryce
Reynolds
Smith (MI)
Stark
Towns
Tucker
Yates
{time} 2005
Mr. PAYNE of Virginia and Mr. ROSE changed their vote from ``nay'' to
``yea.''
So the resolution was agreed to.
The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
A motion to reconsider was laid on the table.
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