[Congressional Record Volume 141, Number 103 (Thursday, June 22, 1995)]
[House]
[Pages H6226-H6232]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]


                          PERSONAL EXPLANATION

  Mr. RICHARDSON. Mr. Speaker, I was unavoidably detained on rollcall 
vote 412. Had I been present, I would have voted ``nay.''

                              {time}  1430


                     amendment offered by mr. klug

  The CHAIRMAN. The pending business is the demand of the gentleman 
from Wisconsin [Mr. Klug] for a recorded vote on which further 
proceedings were postponed and on which the noes prevailed by voice 
vote.
  The Clerk will redesignate the amendment.
  The Clerk redesignated the amendment.


                             recorded vote

  The CHAIRMAN. A recorded vote has been demanded.
  A recorded vote was ordered.
  The CHAIRMAN. This will be a 5-minute vote.
  The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 293, 
noes 129, not voting 12, as follows:

                             [Roll No. 413]

                               AYES--293

     Allard
     Andrews
     Archer
     Armey
     Bachus
     Baker (CA)
     Baker (LA)
     Baldacci
     Ballenger
     Barcia
     Barr
     Barrett (NE)
     Barrett (WI)
     Bartlett
     Barton
     Bass
     Bentsen
     Bereuter
     Bevill
     Bilbray
     Bilirakis
     Bliley
     Blute
     Boehlert
     Boehner
     Bonilla
     Bono
     Brewster
     Browder
     Brown (CA)
     Brownback
     Bryant (TN)
     Bunn
     Bunning
     Burr
     Burton
     Buyer
     Callahan
     Calvert
     Camp
     Canady
     Castle
     Chabot
     Chambliss
     Chapman
     Chenoweth
     Christensen
     Chrysler
     Clement
     Clinger
     Coble
     Coburn
     Collins (GA)
     Combest
     Cooley
     Costello
     Cox
     Cramer
     Crane
     Crapo
     Cremeans
     Cubin
     Cunningham
     Danner
     de la Garza
     Deal
     DeFazio
     DeLay
     Deutsch
     Diaz-Balart
     Dickey
     Doggett
     Dooley
     Doolittle
     Doyle
     Dreier
     Duncan
     Dunn
     Durbin
     Edwards
     Ehlers
     Ehrlich
     Emerson
     English
     Ensign
     Eshoo
     Everett
     Ewing
     Fawell
     Fields (TX)
     Flanagan
     Foley
     Forbes
     Ford
     Fowler
     Fox
     Frank (MA)
     Franks (CT)
     Franks (NJ)
     Frelinghuysen
     Frisa
     Funderburk
     Furse
     Gallegly
     Ganske
     Gekas
     Geren
     Gilchrest
     Gillmor
     Gilman
     Goodlatte
     Goodling
     Gordon
     Goss
     Graham
     Greenwood
     Gunderson
     Gutknecht
     Hall (TX)
     Hamilton
     Hancock
     Hansen
     Harman
     Hastert
     Hastings (WA)
     Hayes
     Hayworth
     Hefley
     Heineman
     Herger
     Hilleary
     Hobson
     Hoekstra
     Hoke
     Horn
     Hostettler
     Houghton
     Hunter
     Hutchinson
     Hyde
     Inglis
     Istook
     Jacobs
     Johnson (CT)
     Johnson, Sam
     Jones
     Kaptur
     Kasich
     Kelly
     Kim
     King
     Kingston
     Klug
     Knollenberg
     Kolbe
     LaHood
     Largent
     Latham
     LaTourette
     Lazio
     Leach
     Levin
     Lewis (CA)
     Lewis (KY)
     Lightfoot
     Lincoln
     Linder
     Lipinski
     Livingston
     LoBiondo
     Lofgren
     Longley
     Lucas
     Luther
     Maloney
     Manzullo
     Markey
     Martini
     Mascara
     McCarthy
     McCollum
     McCrery
     McHugh
     McInnis
     McIntosh
     McKeon
     McNulty
     Meehan
     Menendez
     Metcalf
     Meyers
     Mica
     Miller (CA)
     Miller (FL)
     Minge
     Molinari
     Montgomery
     Moorhead
     Myrick
     Neal
     Nethercutt
     Neumann
     Ney
     Norwood
     Nussle
     Orton
     Oxley
     Packard
     Pastor
     Paxon
     Payne (VA)
     Peterson (FL)
     Peterson (MN)
     Petri
     Pickett
     Pombo
     Pomeroy
     Porter
     Portman
     Poshard
     Pryce
     Quinn
     Radanovich
     Ramstad
     Reed
     Regula
     Richardson
     Riggs
     Rivers
     Roberts
     Roemer
     Rogers
     Rohrabacher
     Ros-Lehtinen
     Roukema
     Royce
     Salmon
     Sanford
     Saxton
     Scarborough
     Schaefer
     Schiff
     Schroeder
     Seastrand
     Sensenbrenner
     Shadegg
     Shaw
     Shays
     Shuster
     Sisisky
     Skeen
     Skelton
     Smith (MI)
     Smith (NJ)
     Smith (TX)
     Smith (WA)
     Solomon
     Souder
     Spence
     Stearns
     Stenholm
     Stockman
     Stump
     Stupak
     Talent
     Tanner
     Tauzin
     Taylor (MS)
     Taylor (NC)
     Thomas
     Thornberry
     Tiahrt
     Torkildsen
     Upton
     Volkmer
     Vucanovich
     Waldholtz
     Walker
     Walsh
     Wamp
     Ward
     Watts (OK)
     Weldon (FL)
     Weldon (PA)
     Weller
     White
     Whitfield
     Wicker
     Williams
     Wyden
     Young (FL)
     Zeliff
     Zimmer

                               NOES--129

     Abercrombie
     Baesler
     Bateman
     Becerra
     Beilenson
     Berman
     Bishop
     Bonior
     Borski
     Boucher
     Brown (FL)
     Brown (OH)
     Bryant (TX)
     Cardin
     Clay
     Clyburn
     Coleman
     Collins (IL)
     Collins (MI)
     Conyers
     Coyne
     Davis
     DeLauro
     Dellums
     Dicks
     Dingell
     Dixon
     Engel
     Evans
     Farr
     Fattah
     Fazio
     Fields (LA)
     Filner
     Flake
     Foglietta
     Frost
     Gejdenson
     Gephardt
     Gibbons
     Gonzalez
     Green
     Gutierrez
     Hall (OH)
     Hastings (FL)
     Hefner
     Hilliard
     Hinchey
     Holden
     Hoyer
     Jackson-Lee
     Jefferson
     Johnson (SD)
     Johnson, E. B.
     Johnston
     Kanjorski
     Kennedy (MA)
     Kennedy (RI)
     Kennelly
     Kildee
     Kleczka
     Klink
     LaFalce
     Lantos
     Lewis (GA)
     Lowey
     Manton
     Martinez
     Matsui
     McDermott
     McHale
     McKinney
     Meek
     Mfume
     Mineta
     Mink
     Mollohan
     Moran
     Morella
     Murtha
     Myers
     Nadler
     Oberstar
     Obey
     Olver
     Ortiz
     Owens
     Pallone
     Payne (NJ)
     Pelosi
     Quillen
     Rahall
     Rangel
     Reynolds
     Rose
     Roth
     Roybal-Allard
     Rush
     Sabo
     Sanders
     Sawyer
     Scott
     Skaggs
     Slaughter
     Spratt
     Stark
     Stokes
     Studds
     Tejeda
     Thompson
     Thornton
     Thurman
     Torricelli
     Towns
     Traficant
     Tucker
     Velazquez
     Vento
     Visclosky
     Waters
     Watt (NC)
     Waxman
     Wilson
     Wise
     Wolf
     Woolsey
     Wynn
     Yates
     Young (AK)

                             NOT VOTING--12

     Ackerman
     Clayton
     Condit
     Dornan
     Laughlin
     McDade
     Moakley
     Parker
     Schumer
     Serrano
     Tate
     Torres
  The Clerk announced the following pair:
  On this vote:

       Mr. Cunningham for, with Mr. Moakley against.


[[Page H 6227]]

  Messrs. BERMAN, TEJEDA, and GUTIERREZ changed their vote from ``aye'' 
to ``no.''
  Messrs. DEUTSCH, EHLERS, and EVERETT changed their vote from ``no'' 
to ``aye.''
  So the amendment was agreed to.
  The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
                      Announcement by the Chairman

  The CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to the rule, the Chair announces again that he 
will reduce to a minimum of 5 minutes the period of time within which a 
vote by electronic device will be taken on each amendment on which the 
chair has postponed further proceedings.


                  Amendment Offered by Mr. CHRISTENSEN

  The CHAIRMAN. The pending business is the demand of gentleman from 
Nebraska [Mr. Christensen] for a recorded vote on which further 
proceedings were postponed and on which the noes prevailed by voice 
vote.
  The Clerk will redesignate the amendment.
  The Clerk redesignated the amendment.


                             Recorded Vote

  The CHAIRMAN. A recorded vote has been demanded.
  A recorded vote was ordered.
  The CHAIRMAN. This will be a 5-minute vote.
  The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 177, 
noes 246, not voting 11, as follows:

                             [Roll No. 414]

                               AYES--177

     Allard
     Archer
     Armey
     Bachus
     Baker (CA)
     Baker (LA)
     Baldacci
     Ballenger
     Barrett (WI)
     Bartlett
     Barton
     Bass
     Bentsen
     Bilbray
     Bliley
     Blute
     Brown (OH)
     Brownback
     Bryant (TN)
     Bunn
     Bunning
     Burr
     Buyer
     Camp
     Canady
     Cardin
     Castle
     Chabot
     Chenoweth
     Christensen
     Chrysler
     Coble
     Coburn
     Collins (GA)
     Combest
     Cox
     Cramer
     Crane
     Crapo
     Cremeans
     Cubin
     Danner
     Deal
     Deutsch
     Diaz-Balart
     Dickey
     Doggett
     Dooley
     Dreier
     Duncan
     Dunn
     English
     Ensign
     Fawell
     Fields (TX)
     Flanagan
     Forbes
     Fowler
     Franks (CT)
     Franks (NJ)
     Frelinghuysen
     Frisa
     Funderburk
     Gallegly
     Ganske
     Goodlatte
     Gordon
     Goss
     Graham
     Green
     Gutknecht
     Hall (TX)
     Hamilton
     Hancock
     Hansen
     Harman
     Hastert
     Hastings (WA)
     Hayworth
     Hefley
     Heineman
     Herger
     Hilleary
     Hoekstra
     Hoke
     Holden
     Horn
     Hostettler
     Hunter
     Hutchinson
     Inglis
     Istook
     Johnson (CT)
     Johnson (SD)
     Jones
     Kasich
     Kelly
     Kennedy (RI)
     Kim
     Kingston
     Klug
     LaHood
     Largent
     Latham
     Lazio
     Leach
     Lewis (KY)
     Lincoln
     LoBiondo
     Longley
     Luther
     Manzullo
     Martini
     McCrery
     McHale
     McHugh
     McInnis
     McIntosh
     McKeon
     Meehan
     Metcalf
     Mica
     Miller (FL)
     Minge
     Moorhead
     Myrick
     Nethercutt
     Neumann
     Norwood
     Nussle
     Paxon
     Petri
     Pomeroy
     Portman
     Pryce
     Quinn
     Ramstad
     Reed
     Rivers
     Roemer
     Rohrabacher
     Ros-Lehtinen
     Royce
     Salmon
     Sanford
     Saxton
     Scarborough
     Schaefer
     Seastrand
     Sensenbrenner
     Shadegg
     Shaw
     Shays
     Smith (MI)
     Smith (TX)
     Smith (WA)
     Solomon
     Souder
     Stearns
     Stockman
     Stump
     Talent
     Tanner
     Tate
     Taylor (NC)
     Thornberry
     Tiahrt
     Torkildsen
     Upton
     Waldholtz
     Wamp
     Ward
     Weller
     White
     Whitfield
     Zeliff
     Zimmer

                               NOES--246

     Abercrombie
     Andrews
     Baesler
     Barcia
     Barr
     Barrett (NE)
     Bateman
     Becerra
     Beilenson
     Bereuter
     Berman
     Bevill
     Bilirakis
     Bishop
     Boehlert
     Boehner
     Bonilla
     Bonior
     Bono
     Borski
     Boucher
     Brewster
     Browder
     Brown (CA)
     Brown (FL)
     Bryant (TX)
     Burton
     Callahan
     Calvert
     Chambliss
     Chapman
     Clay
     Clinger
     Clyburn
     Coleman
     Collins (IL)
     Collins (MI)
     Condit
     Conyers
     Cooley
     Costello
     Coyne
     Davis
     de la Garza
     DeFazio
     DeLauro
     DeLay
     Dellums
     Dicks
     Dingell
     Dixon
     Doolittle
     Doyle
     Durbin
     Edwards
     Ehlers
     Ehrlich
     Emerson
     Engel
     Eshoo
     Evans
     Everett
     Ewing
     Farr
     Fattah
     Fazio
     Fields (LA)
     Filner
     Flake
     Foglietta
     Foley
     Ford
     Fox
     Frank (MA)
     Frost
     Furse
     Gejdenson
     Gekas
     Gephardt
     Geren
     Gibbons
     Gilchrest
     Gillmor
     Gilman
     Gonzalez
     Goodling
     Gunderson
     Gutierrez
     Hall (OH)
     Hastings (FL)
     Hayes
     Hefner
     Hilliard
     Hinchey
     Hobson
     Houghton
     Hoyer
     Hyde
     Jackson-Lee
     Jacobs
     Jefferson
     Johnson, E. B.
     Johnson, Sam
     Johnston
     Kanjorski
     Kaptur
     Kennedy (MA)
     Kennelly
     Kildee
     King
     Kleczka
     Klink
     Knollenberg
     Kolbe
     LaFalce
     Lantos
     LaTourette
     Levin
     Lewis (CA)
     Lewis (GA)
     Lightfoot
     Linder
     Lipinski
     Livingston
     Lofgren
     Lowey
     Lucas
     Maloney
     Manton
     Markey
     Martinez
     Mascara
     Matsui
     McCarthy
     McCollum
     McDade
     McDermott
     McKinney
     McNulty
     Meek
     Menendez
     Meyers
     Mfume
     Miller (CA)
     Mineta
     Mink
     Molinari
     Mollohan
     Montgomery
     Moran
     Morella
     Murtha
     Myers
     Nadler
     Neal
     Ney
     Oberstar
     Obey
     Olver
     Ortiz
     Orton
     Owens
     Oxley
     Packard
     Pallone
     Pastor
     Payne (NJ)
     Payne (VA)
     Pelosi
     Peterson (FL)
     Peterson (MN)
     Pickett
     Pombo
     Porter
     Poshard
     Quillen
     Radanovich
     Rahall
     Rangel
     Regula
     Reynolds
     Richardson
     Riggs
     Roberts
     Rogers
     Rose
     Roth
     Roukema
     Roybal-Allard
     Rush
     Sabo
     Sanders
     Sawyer
     Schiff
     Schroeder
     Schumer
     Scott
     Shuster
     Sisisky
     Skaggs
     Skeen
     Skelton
     Slaughter
     Smith (NJ)
     Spence
     Spratt
     Stark
     Stenholm
     Stokes
     Studds
     Stupak
     Tauzin
     Taylor (MS)
     Tejeda
     Thomas
     Thompson
     Thornton
     Thurman
     Torricelli
     Towns
     Traficant
     Tucker
     Velazquez
     Vento
     Visclosky
     Volkmer
     Vucanovich
     Walker
     Walsh
     Waters
     Watt (NC)
     Watts (OK)
     Waxman
     Weldon (FL)
     Weldon (PA)
     Wicker
     Williams
     Wilson
     Wise
     Wolf
     Woolsey
     Wyden
     Wynn
     Yates
     Young (AK)
     Young (FL)

                             NOT VOTING--11

     Ackerman
     Clayton
     Clement
     Cunningham
     Dornan
     Greenwood
     Laughlin
     Moakley
     Parker
     Serrano
     Torres

                              {time}  1447

  Mr. HUNTER changed his vote from ``no'' to ``aye.''
  Mr. BROWDER changed his vote from ``aye'' to ``no.''
  So the amendment was rejected.
  The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
                          personal explanation
  Mr. CLEMENT. Mr. Chairman, on roll call vote No. 414, I was 
unavoidably detained with business before the U.S. Senate regarding Dr. 
Henry Foster's nomination. Had I been present, I would have voted 
``nay'' on the amendment offered by Representative Jon Christensen.
                    Amendment offered by Mr. Zimmer

  The CHAIRMAN. The pending business is the demand of the gentleman 
from New Jersey [Mr. Zimmer] for a recorded vote on which further 
proceedings were postponed and on which the noes prevailed by voice 
vote.
  The Clerk will redesignate the amendment.
  The Clerk redesignated the amendment.
  The CHAIRMAN. A recorded vote has been demanded.
  [[Page H 6228]] A recorded vote was ordered.
  The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 403, 
noes 21, not voting 10, as follows:
  


                             [Roll No. 415]

  


                               AYES--403

  

     Allard
     Andrews
     Archer
     Armey
     Bachus
     Baesler
     Baker (CA)
     Baker (LA)
     Baldacci
     Ballenger
     Barcia
     Barr
     Barrett (NE)
     Barrett (WI)
     Bartlett
     Barton
     Bass
     Bateman
     Becerra
     Beilenson
     Bentsen
     Bereuter
     Berman
     Bevill
     Bilbray
     Bilirakis
     Bishop
     Bliley
     Blute
     Boehlert
     Boehner
     Bonilla
     Bonior
     Bono
     Borski
     Boucher
     Brewster
     Browder
     Brown (CA)
     Brown (FL)
     Brown (OH)
     Brownback
     Bryant (TN)
     Bryant (TX)
     Bunn
     Bunning
     Burr
     Burton
     Buyer
     Callahan
     Calvert
     Camp
     Canady
     Cardin
     Castle
     Chabot
     Chambliss
     Chapman
     Chenoweth
     Christensen
     Chrysler
     Clement
     Clinger
     Clyburn
     Coble
     Coburn
     Coleman
     Collins (GA)
     Collins (IL)
     Combest
     Condit
     Cooley
     Costello
     Cox
     Coyne
     Cramer
     Crane
     Crapo
     Cremeans
     Cubin
     Cunningham
     Danner
     Davis
     de la Garza
     Deal
     DeFazio
     DeLauro
     DeLay
     Deutsch
     Diaz-Balart
     Dickey
     Dicks
     Doggett
     Dooley
     Doolittle
     Dornan
     Doyle
     Dreier
     Duncan
     Dunn
     Durbin
     Edwards
     Ehlers
     Ehrlich
     Emerson
     Engel
     English
     Ensign
     Eshoo
     Evans
     Everett
     Farr
     Fattah
     Fawell
     Fields (LA)
     Fields (TX)
     Filner
     Flake
     Flanagan
     Foglietta
     Foley
     Forbes
     Ford
     Fowler
     Fox
     Frank (MA)
     Franks (CT)
     Franks (NJ)
     Frelinghuysen
     Frisa
     Frost
     Funderburk
     Furse
     Gallegly
     Ganske
     Gejdenson
     Gekas
     Gephardt
     Geren
     Gilchrest
     Gillmor
     Gilman
     Gonzalez
     Goodlatte
     Goodling
     Gordon
     Goss
     Graham
     Green
     Greenwood
     Gunderson
     Gutierrez
     Gutknecht
     Hall (OH)
     Hall (TX)
     Hamilton
     Hancock
     Hansen
     Harman
     Hastert
     Hastings (WA)
     Hayes
     Hayworth
     Hefley
     Hefner
     Heineman
     Herger
     Hilleary
     Hilliard
     Hinchey
     Hobson
     Hoekstra
     Hoke
     Holden
     Horn
     Hostettler
     Houghton
     Hunter
     Hutchinson
     Hyde
     Inglis
     Istook
     Jackson-Lee
     Jacobs
     Jefferson
     Johnson (SD)
     Johnson, E. B.
     Johnson, Sam
     Johnston
     Jones
     Kanjorski
     Kaptur
     Kasich
     Kelly
     Kennedy (MA)
     Kennedy (RI)
     Kennelly
     Kildee
     Kim
     King
     Kingston
     Kleczka
     Klink
     Klug
     Knollenberg
     Kolbe
     LaFalce
     LaHood
     Lantos
     Largent
     Latham
     LaTourette
     Lazio
     Leach
     Levin
     Lewis (CA)
     Lewis (KY)
     Lightfoot
     Lincoln
     Linder
     Lipinski
     LoBiondo
     Lofgren
     Longley
     Lowey
     Lucas
     Luther
     Maloney
     Manton
     Manzullo
     Markey
     Martinez
     Martini
     Mascara
     Matsui
     McCarthy
     McCollum
     McCrery
     McDade
     McDermott
     McHale
     McHugh
     McInnis
     McIntosh
     McKeon
     McKinney
     McNulty
     Meehan
     Menendez
     Metcalf
     Meyers
     Mfume
     Mica
     Miller (CA)
     Miller (FL)
     Mineta
     Minge
     Mink
     Molinari
     Mollohan
     Montgomery
     Moorhead
     Morella
     Murtha
     Myers
     Myrick
     Neal
     Nethercutt
     Neumann
     Ney
     Norwood
     Nussle
     Oberstar
     Obey
     Olver
     Ortiz
     Orton
     Owens
     Oxley
     Pallone
     Pastor
     Paxon
     Payne (NJ)
     Payne (VA)
     Pelosi
     Peterson (FL)
     Peterson (MN)
     Petri
     Pickett
     Pombo
     Pomeroy
     Porter
     Portman
     Poshard
     Pryce
     Quillen
     Quinn
     Radanovich
     Rahall
     Ramstad
     Rangel
     Reed
     Regula
     Reynolds
     Richardson
     Riggs
     Rivers
     Roberts
     Roemer
     Rogers
     Rohrabacher
     Ros-Lehtinen
     Rose
     Roth
     Roukema
     Roybal-Allard
     Royce
     Rush
     Salmon
     Sanders
     Sanford
     Sawyer
     Saxton
     Scarborough
     Schaefer
     Schiff
     Schroeder
     Schumer
     Scott
     Seastrand
     Sensenbrenner
     Shadegg
     Shaw
     Shays
     Shuster
     Sisisky
     Skaggs
     Skeen
     Skelton
     Slaughter
     Smith (MI)
     Smith (NJ)
     Smith (TX)
     Smith (WA)
     Solomon
     Souder
     Spence
     Spratt
     Stark
     Stearns
     Stenholm
     Stockman
     Studds
     Stump
     Stupak
     Talent
     Tanner
     Tate
     Tauzin
     Taylor (MS)
     Taylor (NC)
     Tejeda
     Thomas
     Thompson
     Thornberry
     Thurman
     Tiahrt
     Torkildsen
     Torricelli
     Traficant
     Tucker
     Upton
     Velazquez
     Vento
     Visclosky
     Volkmer
     Vucanovich
     Waldholtz
     Walker
     Walsh
     Wamp
     Ward
     Watt (NC)
     Watts (OK)
     Waxman
     Weldon (FL)
     Weldon (PA)
     Weller
     White
     Whitfield
     Wicker
     Williams
     Wilson
     Wise
     Wolf
     Woolsey
     Wyden
     Wynn
     Yates
     Young (AK)
     Young (FL)
     Zeliff
     Zimmer
  


                                NOES--21

  

     Abercrombie
     Clay
     Collins (MI)
     Conyers
     Dellums
     Dingell
     Dixon
     Fazio
     Gibbons
     Hastings (FL)
     Hoyer
     Lewis (GA)
     Meek
     Moran
     Nadler
     Packard
     Sabo
     Stokes
     Thornton
     Towns
     Waters
  


                             NOT VOTING--10

  

     Ackerman
     Clayton
     Ewing
     Johnson (CT)
     Laughlin
     Livingston
     Moakley
     Parker
     Serrano
     Torres
       
       
  


                              {time}  1455

  

  Ms. McKINNEY and Mr. GEJDENSON changed their vote from ``no'' to 
``aye.''
  So the amendment was agreed to.
  The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
  Mr. PORTMAN. Mr. Chairman, I rise today to voice my support for H.R. 
1854, the legislative branch appropriations bill for fiscal year 1996.
  I strongly support the bold cuts to the level of funding provided in 
the bill today.
  There is nothing more important than addressing the $4.8 trillion 
national debt, which is keeping badly needed capital out of the hands 
of the private sector of our economy, the engine of growth and job 
creation. And I believe the goal of deficit reduction will only be met 
if we lead by example here in Congress.
  Today, we have the opportunity to prove to our constituents that we 
are serious about addressing the national debt by taking the lead and 
making cuts to our own budget. This bill appropriates $1.7 billion for 
the House of Representatives and other legislative branch operations--
$155 million less than in fiscal year 1995. This bill contains 
responsible cuts, such as eliminating the Joint Committee on Printing 
[JCP], the Office of Technology Assessment [OTA], one House parking 
lot, complimentary Capitol Historical Society calendars, and volumes of 
the U.S. Code for members of Congress. This bill provides for 
privatizing the flag office, the House folding room, and other support 
offices, reducing the General Accounting Office budget by 15 percent, 
combining the allowances for Members' clerk hire, mailing and office 
expenses into one account and cutting House committee funding by $39 
million.
  At a time when the House is asking others to make significant 
sacrifices, we must be responsible enough to tighten our own belt. I 
will vote for the legislative branch appropriations bill because the 
House should lead by example rather than give itself special treatment.
  Mr. CLINGER. Mr. Chairman, I rise today in support of H.R. 1854, 
legislative branch appropriations for fiscal year 1996. I also rise to 
applaud the efforts of the subcommittee chairman, Congressman Ron 
Packard, for performing a superior job in crafting this difficult bill, 
making truly difficult decisions, and helping ensure that the 
legislative branch contributes its share to the Nation's total debt 
reduction.
  I am particularly pleased with the committee's successful efforts to 
find meaningful and constructive reductions in the General Accounting 
Office account.
  H.R. 1854 appropriates $393 million for the General Accounting 
Office. That is $56 million, or 12 percent, less than the fiscal year 
1995 appropriation, and $80 million less than the amount requested by 
GAO. The bill's appropriation level will support 3,947 positions, a 15-
percent cut from current staffing levels. This cut is the first of a 2-
year reduction in GAO's budget, which will reach a total of about 25 
percent over 2 years. If this budget is adopted, GAO will have 
downsized by a total of 35 percent between 1992 and 1997.
  No agency can sustain this level of a reduction without seriously 
reevaluating the work that it performs. I am confident that Comptroller 
General Chuck Bowsher, Appropriations Subcommittee Chairman Ron 
Packard, and I will work hard to ensure that GAO takes responsible 
steps to absorb these reductions while still providing useful research 
and assistance to the Congress.
  The committee report that accompanies this bill calls on GAO to fully 
accomplish its core mission while absorbing the reductions in their 
budget both this year and next. As the chairman of GAO's authorizing 
committee, it is my intention over the coming months to work with the 
GAO staff to ensure that the mission of GAO is achieved. In my mind, 
some of the most important functions of the GAO is to perform financial 
management and performance audits. The enactment of the Chief Financial 
Officers Act placed a great burden on the shoulders of GAO to help 
executive branch agencies design and publish annual financial reports. 
Also, the development of a District of Columbia financial control board 
will also result in a strain on GAO's resources. They should continue 
their hard work in these areas.
  At the same time, GAO should continue to support the activities of 
congressional committees. I am confident that they will continue to do
 just that in the same professional manner that we have seen in the 
past. GAO has performed yeomen's service for the Government Reform and 
Oversight Committee during the past several months and I look forward 
to continuing that relationship with them. [[Page H 6229]] 

  Again, I applaud the efforts of Chairman Packard and encourage the 
adoption of this bill.
  Mr. PORTMAN. Mr. Chairman, I rise today to offer the Clinger-Portman-
Condit-Davis amendment to the legislative branch appropriations bill. 
Our amendment is fiscally responsible and is vital to the mission of 
the Unfunded Mandates Reform Act of 1995. In fact, our amendment is 
endorsed by many of the same groups that supported the unfunded 
mandates bill earlier this year, including the U.S. Chamber of 
Commerce, National Governors' Association, National Conference of State 
Legislatures, National Association of Counties, and the National League 
of Cities. The amendment would add $1.1 million to CBO's budget, the 
funding it needs to comply with S. 1, the unfunded mandates bill that 
was signed into law in March. As you know, the House approved this 
Contract With America bill by a strong vote of 394-28, and the Senate 
did as well, 91-9.
  The amendment's appropriation of $1.1 million to the CBO is far below 
the $4.5 million the House authorized earlier this year in S. 1. In 
fact, it is only 26 percent of the amount we've already authorized for 
CBO by the unfunded mandates law.
  As you may remember, under the unfunded mandates bill, CBO has a 
number of critical and new responsibilities starting January 1, 1996. 
First, CBO is required to analyze all new reported legislation 
containing Federal mandates and to prepare cost estimates for bills 
that impose mandates on State and local governments costing more than 
$50 million in any year. CBO has to perform a similar analysis for 
bills that impose mandates on the private sector costing more than $100 
million. Although CBO does analyze intergovernmental mandates costing 
more than $200 million now, the new law has greatly increased its 
workload. These are complicated analyses, requiring CBO to perform a 
number of complex new tasks.
  CBO has identified a number of new challenges it will be facing as it 
calculates the costs of mandates. Specifically, Dr. June O'Neill, 
Director of the CBO, has identified that: First, legislation often 
lacks the detailed information needed to project future impacts at the 
time a bill is considered; second, the effects of legislation may vary 
greatly among localities, making it difficult to quantify nationwide 
costs; third, obtaining accurate information from State, local, and 
tribal officials will be difficult and time consuming; fourth, 
obtaining information from private-sector parties will be difficult and 
time consuming since the information may not be readily available and 
is often considered to be confidential.
  To make accurate cost estimates, CBO needs these additional resources 
to address these problems. Specifically, these resources will need to 
be focused on covering the costs of: First, consulting extensively with 
the relevant Federal agency to define the range of alternatives that 
are likely to be considered in issuing regulations; second, collecting 
information early in the legislative process from a broad sample of 
State, localities, and tribes, as well as from the private sector and 
individuals; third, consulting with experts to identify techniques that 
will improve CBO's ability to provide accurate estimates of nationwide 
costs based on a limited sample of States, localities, tribes, 
businesses, and individuals; fourth, consulting directly with as many 
States, local, and tribal officials as possible, as well as 
representatives from business and citizen groups.
  CBO estimates that it needs 25 new full-time employees to conduct the 
cost analyses required by the unfunded mandates bill. The office 
intends to create a new intergovernmental mandate unit in the Budget 
Analysis Division that will prepare cost statements and studies of 
intergovernmental mandates, as well as work with committees and State 
and local governments--15 people would be assigned to the program 
divisions for preparing private-sector mandate cost estimates and 
studies.
  In addition to new analytic difficulties, the quantity of estimates 
required by CBO will likely be burdensome. Dr. O'Neill estimates that 
the private sector analyses--a provision in the law that is strongly 
supported by many Members of Congress--alone could require CBO to 
analyze approximately 10 to 15 percent of all reported bills. I expect 
the number of analyses required for State and local governmental 
mandates will be even higher. The bottom line is that S. 1 increased 
significantly CBO's volume of work.
  CBO has identified another issue that justifies this additional 
appropriation to its budget. In the case of both intergovernmental and 
private sector mandates, CBO has determined that it will take nearly as 
much analysis to estimate whether or not a bill exceeds the threshold 
as it does to provide a full cost analysis when the threshold is 
exceeded. A statement by Dr. O'Neill reinforces this point: ``. . . all 
bills that are deemed to have a mandate will exert considerable 
pressure on CBO's resources, even when the analysis does not result in 
a detailed cost statement.''
  If CBO fails to complete these analyses, the consequences to the 
legislative process could be severe. Because the unfunded mandates law 
establishes a new point of order against the consideration of 
legislation for which a CBO cost estimate is not printed in the 
committee report or in the Congressional Record, points of order could 
potentially be raised against scores of bills. This could significantly 
complicate and slow down the legislative process.
  In addition, a provision in the bill allows for a waiver of CBO's 
requirement if an analysis is not feasible, although a point of order 
would remain in effect. Without the CBO analysis, the unfunded mandates 
law would be meaningless. I view the new cost information as the 
linchpin to the improved accountability the legislation is intended to 
establish. Without the CBO analysis, Members would be voting on 
legislation in the dark, without any clear knowledge of the burdens 
they are imposing on State and local governments or the private sector. 
Those 394 Members of the House agreed that we should end the practice 
of mandating blindly. Providing CBO the tools it needs will help to 
eliminate this problem, by giving Members the information we all must 
have to legislate responsibly. Also, because S. 1 obligates committees 
to identify sources of funding to cover the costs of intergovernmental 
mandates, committees will need the CBO information to do their jobs. 
Last year alone, it is estimated that we sent billions of dollars worth 
of mandates to State and local governments. Spending $1.1 million up 
front to curb the practice makes sense. To do otherwise would be penny-
wise and pound-foolish.
  I understand that the Appropriations Committee expresses concerns 
about the additional duties given to CBO by the unfunded mandates law, 
but it suggested that DBO shift its resources to cover the new 
responsibilities. Having talked to CBO and looked at these new 
responsibilities, I believe that a mere shifting of CBO priorities will 
not free up enough money to cover the costs of these analyses. We 
should not place an unfunded mandate on the very agency helping us to 
end this practice.
  This amendment is a modest and responsible request for funding that 
CBO needs. The $1.1 million is fully paid for by offsetting cuts in the 
legislative branch appropriations bill. The offset is to a part of the 
Library of Congress budget, specifically targeted to eliminate funding 
for the American Folklife Center, which was not authorized. We believe 
this is a reasonable cut. The Appropriations Committee report on this 
item cites that ``there is ample precedence for the Library to raise 
private funding for the American Folklife Center.''
  I urge my colleagues to join me in supporting this amendment. It will 
allow for the successful implementation of the unfunded mandates bill. 
CBO analyses of mandates on State and local governments, as well as the 
private sector, are the heart of the unfunded mandates bill--a law that 
is designed to ensure Congress has cost information, has a separate 
debate on whether and how to fund mandates and is accountable before it 
ever mandates again. Without providing the additional appropriation, we 
will also be sending the message that we are not serious about giving 
our State and local partners the relief they need. Let's keep our 
promise and support this amendment. If you supported the Unfunded 
Mandate Reform Act of 1995 and believe in it, you should vote ``yes'' 
on this amendment.
  Mr. LUTHER. Mr. Chairman, I rise in strong support of Mr. Castle's 
proposal to cut our official mail allowances by $4.6 million. I ran for 
Congress with the promise that I would work to reform the franked mail 
system, and I intend to vote accordingly.
  Consider these facts: First, Members of Congress sent about 267 
million pieces of mail in 1994, that's six times more mail than was 
received; second, during the last election cycle, House incumbents 
spent more on franked mail than House challengers raised; and third, 
spending on franked mail doubles in election years.
  I do believe that it is important for Members to keep in touch with 
their constituents. Members of Congress must make the attempt to listen 
and seek the input of constituents on important pending issues. I also 
believe that it is important for Members to let their constituents know 
about town meetings, listening sessions, and other opportunities to 
contact their Members of Congress. However, I do not believe that 
Members should be using the franked mail as a campaign advantage. A 
limited frank budget will result in responsible communications from 
Members to their constituents.
  The Castle proposal freezes the franking allowance at 1994 levels by 
cutting $4.6 million from Members' representational allowances. That 
represents a reduction of 13 percent in addition to the roughly 30-
percent cut of earlier this year.
  The Castle proposal enjoys bipartisan support. [[Page H 6230]] 
  Those Members who are firmly committed to reforming Congress and 
reducing the budget deficit will vote ``yes'' on this proposal.
  The CHAIRMAN. Under this rule, the Committee rises.
  Accordingly, the Committee rose; and the Speaker pro tempore (Mr. 
Camp) having assumed the chair, Mr. Linder, Chairman of the Committee 
of the Whole House on the State of the Union, reported that that 
Committee, having had under consideration the bill (H.R. 1854) making 
appropriations for the legislative branch for the fiscal year ending 
September 30, 1996, and for other purposes, pursuant to House 
Resolution 169, he reported the bill back to the House with sundry 
amendments adopted by the Committee of the Whole.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under the rule, the previous question is 
ordered.
  Is a separate vote demanded on any amendment? If not, the Chair will 
put them en gros.
  The amendments were agreed to.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the engrossment and third 
reading of the bill.
  The bill was ordered to be engrossed and read a third time, and was 
read the third time.


      motion to recommit offered by mr. miller of california with 
                              instructions

  Mr. MILLER of California. Mr. Speaker, I offer a motion to recommit 
with instructions.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is the gentleman opposed to the bill in its 
present form?
  Mr. MILLER of California. I am, Mr. Speaker.
  Mr. PACKARD. Mr. Speaker, I reserve a point of order on the 
gentleman's motion.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. A point of order is reserved.
  The Clerk will report the motion.
  The Clerk read as follows:

       Mr. Miller of California moves to recommit the bill H.R. 
     1854 to the Committee on Appropriations with instructions to 
     report the same to the House forthwith with the following 
     amendment:
       Page 49, after line 25, insert the following new section:
       Sec. 312. None of the funds made available in this Act may 
     be provided for any Member, officer, or employee of the House 
     of Representatives when it is made known to the Federal 
     entity or official to which the funds are made available that 
     such Member, officer, or employee has accepted a gift, 
     knowing that such gift is provided directly or indirectly by 
     a paid lobbyist, a lobbyist firm, or an agent of a foreign 
     principal.

  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from California [Mr. Miller] 
is recognized for 5 minutes in support of his motion to recommit.

                              {time}  1500

  Mr. MILLER of California. Mr. Speaker, the purpose of this motion to 
recommit is to send this bill back to committee with instructions for 
the purposes of reporting the bill back to the floor with a gift ban, 
to make sure we would finally end the practice of gifts from lobbyists, 
lobbying firms, and others involved in legislation, to Members of 
Congress.
  We have amended the rules of this House extensively, and we have done 
it on three different occasions. Each time we have been denied the 
opportunity to offer an amendment to end the practice of gifts by 
lobbyists to Members of Congress.
  This is an effort to do that through the legislative appropriations 
bill by denying those appropriations to those offices where Members 
have continued to accept gifts which they knowingly have been provided, 
directly or indirectly, by a paid lobbyist or a lobbying firm.
  Mr. Speaker, I would hope Members of this House, on a bipartisan 
basis, would vote to support the recommittal motion, so once and for 
all we can put an end to a practice that is unacceptable to the public, 
it is unacceptable in the conduct of the public's business, and it 
should be unacceptable in this House. That is ending the giving of 
gifts by lobbyists and lobbying firms to Members of this House while 
they have legislation under consideration.
  Mr. DOGGETT. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
  Mr. MILLER of California. I yield to the gentleman from Texas.
  Mr. DOGGETT. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding to me.
  Mr. Speaker, it was very thoughtful of the Committee on Rules to put 
some of the really critical issues of the Nation before us in the 
amendments that they permitted us to consider. We got to consider 
flowers, we got to consider whether there would be elevator operators, 
we got to consider a number of other matters of similar import, and 
yet, on the critical issue of whether the ties that bind legislators to 
gifts would be approved, we were denied the opportunity to even present 
it for a vote on the floor of this Congress. Mr. Speaker, that goes to 
the core of the problem in this Congress of business as usual.
  Mr. Speaker, there is a need for us to be able to present the 
American people with a clear choice of whether we are going to end 
gifts, freebies, free trips, or we are not going to end them. This 
motion is one way to do that. It is an up-or-down vote. If Members 
believe in continuing the gifts, if they believe in continuing the 
freebies, then vote against the motion of the gentleman from California 
[Mr. Miller].
  However, if Members think we ought to do something to clean up this 
House, this is the opportunity to do it. Some of us have taken a 
voluntary gift ban agreement and have signed off, and we return these 
gifts and these freebies, and deny these tickets and special benefits. 
However, this is a way to write it into law. That is the whole purpose 
of this amendment.
  Mr. WARD. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
  Mr. MILLER of California. I yield to the gentleman from Kentucky.
  Mr. WARD. Mr. Speaker, do Members know what is so frustrating? What 
is so frustrating is to hear these cries of ``vote,'' when they are not 
saying vote on a gift ban, are they? They are not going to allow us a 
vote on a gift ban. We have asked again and again and again.
  If we are going to reform this Congress, let us have an up-or-down 
vote on a gift ban. That is all we are asking for today.
  Mr. MILLER of California. Mr. Speaker, finally, I would just say we 
have considered many amendments to this legislation. Many of those 
amendments have been about how we conduct our offices and how we pay 
for those offices and how we approach and hold ourselves out to the 
public.
  However, what we did not consider in this legislation was the 
question of gift giving by lobbyists to Members of this legislative 
body. It is a practice that must be ended. The leadership on that side 
had said they are going to end it. The question is when, because every 
time we have an opportunity to do it within the rules of the House, 
somehow we cannot find the will to do it.
  Mr. Speaker, this is a practice that must end. It must end now. If 
Members support the motion to recommit, it can be done away with today. 
I would urge all the Members to support the motion to recommit.
                             point of order

  The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Camp). Does the gentleman from 
California [Mr. Packard] have a point of order?
  Mr. PACKARD. Mr. Speaker, I wish to make a point of order against the 
motion to recommit with instructions because it includes a limitation 
and is not in order under clause 2 of rule XXI. Under the precedents of 
the House, it is not ``competent'' for the House to amend the bill in 
the manner proposed because it is not in order for the House to 
instruct the Committee to do what the House itself could not do.
  Mr. Speaker, I quote from precedents of the House of Representatives: 
``It is not in order to do indirectly by a motion to commit with 
instructions what may not be done directly by way of amendment.''
  Also, Mr. Speaker, a point of order was sustained on a motion, a very 
like motion, to recommit with instructions on August 1, 1989, under a 
different Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the gentleman's motion to instruct 
includes a limitation not specifically contained or authorized in 
existing law, and not considered in the Committee of the Whole pursuant 
to clause 2(d) of rule XXI, and therefore I ask for a ruling by the 
Chair on the point of order.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Does the gentleman from California [Mr. 
Miller] wish to address the point of order?
  Mr. MILLER of California. Mr. Speaker, the language offered in this 
motion to recommit is in fact valid under the House rules. It is 
constructed to meet all requirements for a valid [[Page H 
6231]] limitation under clause 2 of rule XXI. It does not impose 
``substantial additional duties.''
  While it is true such an amendment could have been blocked under 
section (d) of clause 2 by the motion to rise had such a motion been 
offered in the Committee of the Whole, in fact no such motion was 
offered. The Committee rose under the direct terms of the rule, House 
Resolution 169, rather than as a result of the motion of the majority 
leader or the manager.
  The House rules clearly permit a valid limitation to be offered when 
the manager or the majority chooses not to offer the motion to rise or 
if they fail to do so in a timely fashion. For this reason, a motion to 
recommit with instruction to include a simple valid limitation is in 
fact in order, and therefore the motion to recommit requiring a gift 
ban be reported back to the House is in order.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Camp). The Chair is prepared to rule on 
the point of order. Consistent with the precedents of August 1 and 3, 
1989, which are recorded in section 835 of the House Rules and Manual, 
the point of order is sustained and the motion is held out of order.


         motion to recommit offered by mr. miller of california

  Mr. MILLER of California. Mr. Speaker, I move to recommit the bill, 
H.R. 1854, to the Committee on Appropriations.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Clerk will report the motion.
  The Clerk read as follows:

       Mr. Miller of California moves to recommit the bill, H.R. 
     1854, to the Committee on Appropriations.
  Mr. MILLER of California. Mr. Speaker, if I can, I would like to be 
heard on the motion.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The motion is not debatable. Without 
objection, the previous question is ordered on the motion to recommit.
  There was no objection.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The question is on the motion to recommit 
with instructions.


                        PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRIES

  Mr. GEJDENSON. I have a parliamentary inquiry, Mr. Speaker.
  Mr. MILLER of California. A parliamentary inquiry, Mr. Speaker.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from California [Mr. Miller] 
will state his parliamentary inquiry.
  Mr. MILLER of California. Mr. Speaker, why was that motion not 
debatable, but the previous motion was debatable?
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The difference is between a motion that 
includes instructions, which is debatable, and one that does not.
  Mr. MILLER of California. I thank the Chair.
  Mr. PACKARD. A parliamentary inquiry, Mr. Speaker.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from California will state it.
  Mr. PACKARD. Mr. Speaker, I have been told and informed that we 
expect this final passage vote to be the last vote of the day. Is that 
correct?
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Chair would advised the gentleman that 
the vote is on recommital.
  Mr. PACKARD. After final passage, I am talking about, Mr. Speaker.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Chair is about to announce a 15 vote on 
recommital and then a 5----
  Mr. PACKARD. After final passage, is that to be the last vote of the 
day, Mr. Speaker?
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Chair would tell the gentlemen yes, that 
is the Chair's understanding.
  Mr. OBEY. A parliamentary inquiry, Mr. Speaker.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman will state it.
  Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, would it be in order to point out that if this 
motion is adopted, the committee would attempt to incorporate the gift 
ban when it comes back from committee?
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. That is not a parliamentary inquiry.
  The question is on the motion to recommit.
  The question was taken; and the Speaker pro tempore announced that 
the noes appeared to have it.


                             recorded vote

  Mr. VOLKMER. Mr. Speaker, I demand a recorded vote.
  A recorded vote was ordered.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursuant to clause 5(b)(3) of rule XV, the 
Chair may reduce to not less than 5 minutes the time for any recorded 
vote that may be ordered on passage of the bill.
  The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--ayes 186, 
noes 240, not voting 8, as follows:

                             [Roll No 416]

                               AYES--186

     Abercrombie
     Andrews
     Baldacci
     Barcia
     Barrett (WI)
     Becerra
     Beilenson
     Bentsen
     Berman
     Bevill
     Bishop
     Bonior
     Borski
     Browder
     Brown (CA)
     Brown (FL)
     Brown (OH)
     Bryant (TX)
     Cardin
     Chapman
     Clay
     Clement
     Clyburn
     Coleman
     Collins (IL)
     Collins (MI)
     Condit
     Conyers
     Costello
     Coyne
     Cramer
     Danner
     de la Garza
     DeFazio
     DeLauro
     Dellums
     Deutsch
     Dicks
     Dingell
     Dixon
     Doggett
     Dooley
     Doyle
     Durbin
     Edwards
     Engel
     Eshoo
     Evans
     Farr
     Fattah
     Fazio
     Fields (LA)
     Filner
     Flake
     Foglietta
     Ford
     Frank (MA)
     Frost
     Furse
     Gejdenson
     Gephardt
     Geren
     Gibbons
     Gonzalez
     Gordon
     Green
     Gutierrez
     Hall (OH)
     Hamilton
     Harman
     Hastings (FL)
     Hefner
     Hilliard
     Hinchey
     Holden
     Hoyer
     Jackson-Lee
     Jacobs
     Jefferson
     Johnson (SD)
     Johnson, E. B.
     Johnston
     Kanjorski
     Kaptur
     Kennedy (MA)
     Kennedy (RI)
     Kennelly
     Kildee
     Kleczka
     LaFalce
     Lantos
     Levin
     Lewis (GA)
     Lincoln
     Lipinski
     Lofgren
     Lowey
     Luther
     Maloney
     Manton
     Markey
     Martinez
     Mascara
     Matsui
     McCarthy
     McDermott
     McHale
     McKinney
     McNulty
     Meehan
     Meek
     Menendez
     Mfume
     Miller (CA)
     Mineta
     Minge
     Mink
     Montgomery
     Moran
     Nadler
     Neal
     Oberstar
     Obey
     Olver
     Ortiz
     Orton
     Owens
     Pallone
     Pastor
     Payne (NJ)
     Payne (VA)
     Pelosi
     Peterson (FL)
     Peterson (MN)
     Pickett
     Poshard
     Rangel
     Reed
     Reynolds
     Richardson
     Rivers
     Roemer
     Rose
     Roybal-Allard
     Rush
     Sabo
     Sanders
     Sawyer
     Schroeder
     Schumer
     Scott
     Sisisky
     Skaggs
     Skelton
     Slaughter
     Spratt
     Stark
     Stenholm
     Stokes
     Studds
     Stupak
     Tanner
     Taylor (MS)
     Tejeda
     Thompson
     Thornton
     Thurman
     Torricelli
     Towns
     Traficant
     Tucker
     Velazquez
     Vento
     Visclosky
     Volkmer
     Ward
     Waters
     Watt (NC)
     Waxman
     Williams
     Wilson
     Wise
     Woolsey
     Wyden
     Wynn
     Yates

                               NOES--240

     Allard
     Archer
     Armey
     Bachus
     Baesler
     Baker (CA)
     Baker (LA)
     Ballenger
     Barr
     Barrett (NE)
     Bartlett
     Barton
     Bass
     Bateman
     Bereuter
     Bilbray
     Bilirakis
     Bliley
     Blute
     Boehlert
     Boehner
     Bonilla
     Bono
     Boucher
     Brewster
     Brownback
     Bryant (TN)
     Bunn
     Bunning
     Burr
     Burton
     Buyer
     Callahan
     Calvert
     Camp
     Canady
     Castle
     Chabot
     Chambliss
     Chenoweth
     Christensen
     Chrysler
     Clinger
     Coble
     Coburn
     Collins (GA)
     Combest
     Cooley
     Cox
     Crane
     Crapo
     Cremeans
     Cubin
     Cunningham
     Davis
     Deal
     DeLay
     Diaz-Balart
     Dickey
     Doolittle
     Dornan
     Dreier
     Duncan
     Dunn
     Ehlers
     Ehrlich
     Emerson
     English
     Ensign
     Everett
     Ewing
     Fawell
     Fields (TX)
     Flanagan
     Foley
     Forbes
     Fowler
     Fox
     Franks (CT)
     Franks (NJ)
     Frelinghuysen
     Frisa
     Funderburk
     Gallegly
     Ganske
     Gekas
     Gilchrest
     Gillmor
     Gilman
     Goodlatte
     Goodling
     Goss
     Graham
     Greenwood
     Gunderson
     Gutknecht
     Hall (TX)
     Hancock
     Hansen
     Hastert
     Hastings (WA)
     Hayes
     Hayworth
     Hefley
     Heineman
     Herger
     Hilleary
     Hobson
     Hoekstra
     Hoke
     Horn
     Hostettler
     Houghton
     Hunter
     Hutchinson
     Hyde
     Inglis
     Istook
     Johnson (CT)
     Johnson, Sam
     Jones
     Kasich
     Kelly
     Kim
     King
     Kingston
     Klink
     Klug
     Knollenberg
     Kolbe
     LaHood
     Largent
     Latham
     LaTourette
     Lazio
     Leach
     Lewis (CA)
     Lewis (KY)
     Lightfoot
     Linder
     Livingston
     LoBiondo
     Longley
     Lucas
     Manzullo
     Martini
     McCollum
     McCrery
     McDade
     McHugh
     McInnis
     McIntosh
     McKeon
     Metcalf
     Meyers
     Mica
     Miller (FL)
     Molinari
     Mollohan
     Moorhead
     Morella
     Murtha
     Myers
     Myrick
     Nethercutt
     Neumann
     Ney
     Norwood
     Nussle
     Oxley
     Packard
     Paxon
     Petri
     Pombo
     Porter
     Portman
     Pryce
     Quillen
     Quinn
     Radanovich
     Rahall
     Ramstad
     Regula
     Riggs
     Roberts
     Rogers
     Rohrabacher
     Ros-Lehtinen
     Roth
     Roukema
     Royce
     Salmon
     Sanford
     Saxton
     Scarborough
     Schaefer
     Schiff
     Seastrand
     Sensenbrenner
     Shadegg
     Shaw
     Shays
     Shuster
     Skeen
     Smith (MI)
     Smith (NJ)
     Smith (TX)
     Smith (WA)
     Solomon
     Souder
     Spence
     Stearns
     Stockman
     Stump
     Talent
     Tate
     Tauzin
     Taylor (NC)
     Thomas [[Page H 6232]] 
     Thornberry
     Tiahrt
     Torkildsen
     Upton
     Vucanovich
     Waldholtz
     Walker
     Walsh
     Wamp
     Watts (OK)
     Weldon (FL)
     Weldon (PA)
     Weller
     White
     Whitfield
     Wicker
     Wolf
     Young (AK)
     Young (FL)
     Zeliff
     Zimmer

                             NOT VOTING--8

     Ackerman
     Clayton
     Laughlin
     Moakley
     Parker
     Pomeroy
     Serrano
     Torres

                              {time}  1528

  Mr. SAXTON changed his vote from ``aye'' to ``no.''
  So the motion to recommit was rejected.
  The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
                          legislative program

  (By unanimous consent, Mr. DeLay was allowed to proceed out of 
order.)
  Mr. DeLAY. Mr. Speaker, I only take this 1 minute to clarify a 
statement that was made earlier.
  Mr. Speaker, we do expect, in fact it is automatic on appropriations 
bills, a vote on final passage. The other side has assured us, and we 
are assuring Members that there is no plan to vote on the rule on the 
Foreign Operations appropriations bill.
  Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield on that point, 
because that is no longer correct. Will the gentleman yield for a 
clarification?
  Mr. DeLAY. I will be glad to yield to the gentleman from Wisconsin, 
the ranking member of the Committee on Appropriations.
  Mr. OBEY. Mr. Speaker, there are two aspects of the rule which have 
just come to my attention, which mean that this gentleman at least 
would be asked for a vote on the rule. I do not know what the wish of 
the majority is in terms of proceeding, but I do not believe that 
Members should be given assurances that if the rule is going to be 
voted on tonight, that there will not be a rollcall vote, because with 
my new understanding of what the Committee on Rules has done, I intend 
to ask for a vote on the rule.

                              {time}  1530

  Mr. DeLAY. Mr. Speaker, I change my earlier statement. There will be 
a vote on final passage, a rollcall vote on final passage, and Members 
should expect a vote on the rule in an hour after that vote is 
concluded.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Camp). The question is on passage of the 
bill.
  Pursuant to clause 7 of rule XV, the yeas and nays are ordered.
  This will be a 5-minute vote.
  The vote was taken by electronic device, and there were--yeas 337, 
nays 87, not voting 10, as follows:
                             [Roll No. 417]

                               YEAS--337

     Allard
     Archer
     Armey
     Bachus
     Baesler
     Baker (CA)
     Baker (LA)
     Baldacci
     Ballenger
     Barcia
     Barr
     Barrett (NE)
     Barrett (WI)
     Bartlett
     Barton
     Bass
     Bateman
     Beilenson
     Bentsen
     Bereuter
     Berman
     Bilbray
     Bilirakis
     Bliley
     Blute
     Boehlert
     Boehner
     Bonilla
     Bono
     Borski
     Boucher
     Brewster
     Brown (FL)
     Brown (OH)
     Brownback
     Bryant (TN)
     Bunn
     Bunning
     Burr
     Burton
     Buyer
     Callahan
     Calvert
     Camp
     Canady
     Cardin
     Castle
     Chabot
     Chambliss
     Chenoweth
     Christensen
     Chrysler
     Clement
     Clinger
     Coble
     Coburn
     Collins (GA)
     Combest
     Condit
     Cooley
     Costello
     Cox
     Crane
     Crapo
     Cremeans
     Cubin
     Cunningham
     Danner
     Davis
     de la Garza
     Deal
     DeLauro
     DeLay
     Deutsch
     Diaz-Balart
     Dickey
     Dixon
     Doggett
     Dooley
     Doolittle
     Dornan
     Doyle
     Dreier
     Duncan
     Dunn
     Edwards
     Ehlers
     Ehrlich
     Emerson
     English
     Ensign
     Eshoo
     Evans
     Everett
     Ewing
     Farr
     Fawell
     Fazio
     Fields (TX)
     Flanagan
     Foley
     Forbes
     Ford
     Fowler
     Fox
     Franks (CT)
     Franks (NJ)
     Frelinghuysen
     Frisa
     Frost
     Funderburk
     Gallegly
     Ganske
     Gekas
     Gephardt
     Geren
     Gilchrest
     Gillmor
     Gilman
     Gonzalez
     Goodlatte
     Goodling
     Goss
     Graham
     Greenwood
     Gunderson
     Gutierrez
     Gutknecht
     Hall (OH)
     Hall (TX)
     Hamilton
     Hancock
     Hansen
     Hastert
     Hastings (WA)
     Hayes
     Hayworth
     Hefley
     Heineman
     Herger
     Hilleary
     Hobson
     Hoekstra
     Hoke
     Holden
     Horn
     Hostettler
     Hoyer
     Hunter
     Hutchinson
     Hyde
     Inglis
     Istook
     Johnson (CT)
     Johnson (SD)
     Johnson, E.B.
     Johnson, Sam
     Jones
     Kaptur
     Kasich
     Kelly
     Kennedy (MA)
     Kennedy (RI)
     Kennelly
     Kildee
     Kim
     King
     Kingston
     Kleczka
     Klug
     Knollenberg
     Kolbe
     LaHood
     Lantos
     Largent
     Latham
     LaTourette
     Lazio
     Leach
     Levin
     Lewis (CA)
     Lewis (KY)
     Lightfoot
     Lincoln
     Linder
     Lipinski
     Livingston
     LoBiondo
     Lofgren
     Longley
     Lowey
     Lucas
     Luther
     Maloney
     Manton
     Manzullo
     Markey
     Martini
     Mascara
     Matsui
     McCarthy
     McCollum
     McCrery
     McDade
     McHale
     McInnis
     McIntosh
     McKeon
     McNulty
     Meehan
     Meek
     Metcalf
     Meyers
     Mica
     Miller (FL)
     Minge
     Mink
     Molinari
     Mollohan
     Montgomery
     Moorhead
     Morella
     Myers
     Myrick
     Nethercutt
     Neumann
     Ney
     Norwood
     Nussle
     Oberstar
     Obey
     Ortiz
     Orton
     Oxley
     Packard
     Pallone
     Paxon
     Payne (VA)
     Pelosi
     Peterson (MN)
     Petri
     Pombo
     Pomeroy
     Porter
     Portman
     Poshard
     Pryce
     Quillen
     Quinn
     Radanovich
     Rahall
     Ramstad
     Reed
     Regula
     Richardson
     Riggs
     Rivers
     Roberts
     Roemer
     Rogers
     Rohrabacher
     Ros-Lehtinen
     Rose
     Roth
     Roukema
     Royce
     Sabo
     Salmon
     Sawyer
     Saxton
     Scarborough
     Schaefer
     Schiff
     Schumer
     Seastrand
     Sensenbrenner
     Shadegg
     Shaw
     Shays
     Shuster
     Sisisky
     Skaggs
     Skeen
     Skelton
     Smith (MI)
     Smith (NJ)
     Smith (TX)
     Smith (WA)
     Solomon
     Souder
     Spence
     Spratt
     Stearns
     Stenholm
     Stockman
     Studds
     Stump
     Stupak
     Talent
     Tanner
     Tate
     Tauzin
     Taylor (MS)
     Taylor (NC)
     Tejeda
     Thomas
     Thornberry
     Thornton
     Thurman
     Tiahrt
     Torkildsen
     Traficant
     Upton
     Visclosky
     Vucanovich
     Waldholtz
     Walker
     Walsh
     Wamp
     Ward
     Watts (OK)
     Weldon (FL)
     Weldon (PA)
     Weller
     White
     Whitfield
     Wicker
     Williams
     Wilson
     Wise
     Wolf
     Woolsey
     Yates
     Young (AK)
     Young (FL)
     Zeliff
     Zimmer

                                NAYS--87

     Abercrombie
     Andrews
     Becerra
     Bevill
     Bishop
     Bonior
     Browder
     Brown (CA)
     Bryant (TX)
     Chapman
     Clay
     Clyburn
     Coleman
     Collins (IL)
     Collins (MI)
     Conyers
     Coyne
     Cramer
     DeFazio
     Dellums
     Dingell
     Durbin
     Engel
     Fattah
     Fields (LA)
     Filner
     Flake
     Foglietta
     Frank (MA)
     Furse
     Gejdenson
     Gibbons
     Gordon
     Green
     Harman
     Hastings (FL)
     Hefner
     Hilliard
     Hinchey
     Jackson-Lee
     Jacobs
     Jefferson
     Johnston
     Kanjorski
     Klink
     LaFalce
     Lewis (GA)
     Martinez
     McDermott
     McKinney
     Menendez
     Mfume
     Miller (CA)
     Mineta
     Moran
     Murtha
     Nadler
     Neal
     Olver
     Owens
     Pastor
     Payne (NJ)
     Peterson (FL)
     Pickett
     Rangel
     Reynolds
     Roybal-Allard
     Rush
     Sanders
     Sanford
     Schroeder
     Scott
     Slaughter
     Stark
     Stokes
     Thompson
     Torricelli
     Towns
     Tucker
     Velazquez
     Vento
     Volkmer
     Waters
     Watt (NC)
     Waxman
     Wyden
     Wynn

                             NOT VOTING--10

     Ackerman
     Clayton
     Dicks
     Houghton
     Laughlin
     McHugh
     Moakley
     Parker
     Serrano
     Torres

                              {time}  1539

  So the bill was passed.
  The result of the vote was announced as above recorded.
  A motion to reconsider was laid upon the table.
  

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