[Congressional Record Volume 141, Number 38 (Wednesday, March 1, 1995)]
[Extensions of Remarks]
[Pages E480-E491]
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                      CLOUDS OVER THE WHITE HOUSE

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                               speech of

                            HON. DAN BURTON

                               of indiana

                    in the house of representatives

                       Tuesday, February 28, 1995

  Mr. BURTON of Indiana. Mr. Speaker, over the past year to year and 
one-half, we have seen some very disturbing things come out of this 
administration. A lot of people that the American people put their 
confidence in have left under a cloud.
   [[Page E481]] Let me just mention a few of them. Webster Hubbell, 
the second most powerful person in the Justice Department, a very close 
personal friend of President Clinton, he was Associate Attorney 
General. He left the Justice Department after having been accused of 
fraudulent billing practices in his old law firm and he pled guilty to 
Federal crimes and he is under indictment right now, and I understand 
he is plea bargaining. He was the second most important, if you will, 
person in the Justice Department, and he himself is indicted and will 
probably go to prison unless he plea bargains his way out of that. He 
was the person who helped influence, in my opinion, helped influence 
the decision not to indict Ron Brown when they sent the associate 
justice down to the Miami grand jury about a year ago, and instead of 
letting the local U.S. attorney down there handle the case, they came 
back and said they did not indict Mr. Brown because of the Vietnamese 
affair, because they did not have enough evidence. There was not enough 
evidence to indict. They did not say they did not have evidence, they 
said there was not enough to indict.
  David Watkins, a White House official, was forced to resign after 
using Marine helicopters to go play golf. He also was accused of sexual 
harassment by a Clinton campaign worker, and the campaign, the Clinton 
campaign settled and attempted to receive Federal matching funds, your 
tax dollars, to pay for the settlement. They were trying to get 
taxpayers' moneys as matching funds to help pay this sexual harassment 
suit. He left under a cloud.
  Richard Altman, the Deputy Treasury Secretary, he resigned after 
congressional hearings exposed the improper contacts he had with the 
White House officials about the Whitewater investigation.
  Bernard Nussbaum, the chief White House counsel, the right-hand legal 
man at the White House for President Clinton, he resigned after 
improper contacts with the Treasury Department over the Whitewater 
investigation came out. He is also the person who went into Vince 
Foster's office and took files out right after they found Vince Foster 
dead under suspicious conditions over at Fort Marcy Park. Mike Espy, 
the Agriculture Secretary, he resigned under investigation by 
independent counsel for accepting illegal gifts. Joycelyn Elders, the 
Surgeon General, resigned after advocating legalization of drugs and 
teaching masturbation in schools.
  There are other Clinton administration nominees that were 
controversial who were not confirmed, Lani Guinier, Morton Halperin. 
Morton Halperin could not be confirmed as Assistant Secretary of 
Defense. What did they do? Because of his leftist policies, they took 
him over to the White House, put him in the NSC, National Security 
Council, advising the President where he would not have to be 
confirmed. Zoe Baird and Kimba Wood, nominees for Attorney General, 
they withdrew them after they investigated them.
  Those are just a few of the nominees and people in the administration 
who left under a cloud. This administration has had a policy of picking 
people that had not been thoroughly examined and people who have come, 
we have come to find out, have done some things very questionable, of 
very questionable nature.
  Now, I want to talk about Secretary of Commerce Ron Brown. He was the 
fellow about 1\1/2\ years ago or 2 years ago that was accused of taking 
a $700,000 bribe from the Vietnamese Government to normalize relations 
with that country. The FBI conducted a 6-hour lie detector on his chief 
accuser, a man named Ben Lee, and the man passed it. They even put a 
bug on this man. Yet when Webster Hubbell was over at the Justice 
Department in the No. 2 position after President Clinton took office, 
they took the FBI off of the case, and when the press got so hot on 
this issue and a grant jury was impaneled down in Miami, the Justice 
Department, again, Webster Hubbell was still second in command over 
there, they sent one of the assistants down to conduct the grand jury 
investigation instead of having it done locally, and they did not have 
enough evidence to indict. That was the Vietnamese affair.
  Now, we have a lot of other problems with Mr. Brown, Secretary of 
Commerce. I doubt if any Cabinet Secretary in recent history has had as 
many bad investments and delinquent loans as Commerce Secretary Ron 
Brown. He and his business partners have on several occasions borrowed 
large sums of money through shell corporations to avoid personal 
responsibility for the loans, and then failed to repay them.
  Ron Brown is now the subject of a second Justice Department 
investigation into his finances. In 1993, the Justice Department 
investigated allegations that he was offered this $700,000 bribe to 
have the embargo against Vietnam lifted even though we did not have a 
full accounting of the 2,300 POW-MIA's, and we still do not have that.
  The Justice Department did not indict Mr. Brown in that case, but 
they did not exonerate him either. They said they just did not have 
enough evidence to indict him.
  The Justice Department has launched a second investigation, this one 
into Secretary Brown's financial relationship with a lady named Nolanda 
Hill. Under the independent counsel law, the Attorney General has 90 
days to recommend to a three-judge panel whether to appoint an 
independent counsel.
  Now, let me give you some highlights of Secretary Brown's bad debts 
and forgiven loans. The first one is really interesting. NBC, the 
National Broadcasting Co., forgave a $10 million loan to Ron Brown. The 
Washington Post reported this weekend that NBC has agreed to forgive a 
$10 million loan to one of Ron Brown's companies, Albimar 
Communications.
  In 1988, NBC agreed to sell Washington, DC, radio station WKYS-FM to 
Albimar Communications for $42\1/2\ million. Albimar was formed by Ron 
Brown, Secretary of Commerce, and his partners, Bertram Lee and James 
Kelly, husband of former D.C. Mayor Sharon Pratt Kelly.
  To make the deal possible, NBC loaned Albimar and Ron Brown $10 
million, because Brown, Lee, and Kelly are all black. NBC received a 
$15 million tax break for minority business people as a result of the 
sale.
  The House just voted to rescind this tax break with some 
justification, I might add. The investment quickly went sour, and Ron 
Brown and his partners became seriously delinquent on the loan from 
NBC.
  Earlier this year, Brown, Kelly, and Lee agreed to sell WKYS to 
another company for an $8.5 million loss. The key to the deal was NBC 
forgiving the $10 million loan.
  Now, here are some questions that the Congress and this Government 
need to have answered. First, was this arrangement with NBC approved by 
the Office of Government Ethics? And if it was not, why not?
  Second, is it legal for a sitting Cabinet Secretary in a Presidential 
administration to receive a financial windfall of this magnitude from a 
major corporation over which he has some control? Agricultural 
Secretary Mike Espy is being investigated for accepting a pair of 
football tickets from a company regulated by his agency, much less than 
the $10 million loan that was forgiven I just talked about from NBC.
  Third, does NBC have an interest in any matters pending before the 
Commerce Department? Now, it is hard to believe that a major 
broadcasting company would not have something pending before the U.S. 
Commerce Department, and here they are forgiving a $10 million loan to 
the Secretary of Commerce. NBC is owned by RCA, Radio Corporation of 
America. How many Federal agencies are considering regulatory matters 
that RCA has a stock in, cellular phones, all kinds of new technologies 
that are being developed by RCA and other corporations that go before 
the Commerce Department? And do those companies that NBC is affiliated 
with, do they have any interest in things pending before the Commerce 
Department?
  Fifth, what did NBC and RCA expect to get in return for forgiving 
this loan, if anything?
  Now, this is not the only thing Ron Brown has been involved in. First 
International, Inc., and Corridor Broadcasting cost the taxpayers $40 
million. In the 1980's Ron Brown and Democratic activist Nolanda Hill 
formed a corporation named First International Communications. 
[[Page E482]] Nolanda Hill owned a second corporation named Corridor 
Broadcasting. Corridor operated out of the same office as First 
International and used all of the same computers, the same phones, and 
the same office equipment.
  Corridor Broadcasting defaulted on $40 million in loans and left the 
taxpayers holding the bag. While it could not repay these loans, it was 
paying, at the same time they could not repay the loans to the 
taxpayers, it was paying $12,000 a month in interest to Ron Brown and 
Nolanda Hill through First International. They were in the same office 
using the
 same phones, same computers, and everything else.

  Ron Brown said he did not know anything about what was going on with 
Corridor Broadcasting. It was in the same office, and Corridor 
Broadcasting, which defaulted on a $40 million obligation to the 
taxpayers, was paying $12,000 a month in interest to Ron Brown's 
company. Although Ron Brown invested none of his own money in the 
company and the company had no known successful ventures, Nolanda Hill 
paid Secretary Brown, now get this, she paid him $400,000 for his share 
of the company. He put no money into the company, no investment 
whatsoever. The company that was paying the freight, Corridor 
Broadcasting, Inc., Corridor defaulted. The taxpayers are soaking up 
$40 million in losses.
  Ron Brown made no financial investment in the company that was in the 
same office, and yet he was paid $400,000, and the company went 
defunct. The company went belly up, and he gets $400,000. For what? 
That is the question. For what?
  Now, Ron Brown, in addition to the $400,000, had $190,000 in personal 
debts. According to Secretary Brown's lawyer, part of the payout from 
First International was $190,000 Nolanda Hill spent in 1994 paying off 
Ron Brown's debts. She paid off $190,000 of his debts. He paid no money 
for the company, got $400,000 out of it, and she pays $190,000 off on 
his personal debts.
  Question: To whom did Secretary Brown owe the $190,000? This is 
information that the Congress and the public deserves to know.
  And then there was another company in that same office. This is the 
third company in the same office called Know, Inc. In 1992 Nolanda 
Hill, through a third shell company, called Know, Inc., loaned Ron 
Brown $78,000. Brown used this money to repay a personal debt to the 
National Bank of Washington. This was done just before his confirmation 
hearings before the U.S. Senate. After his nomination had been 
confirmed, now get this, Nolanda Hill forgave this debt also, so he got 
$190,000 that she forgave, paid for, I assume out of the $40 million 
that they defaulted on, $190,000 she loaned him, and forgave or paid, 
and $78,000 she loaned him and forgave, and then $400,000 he got for no 
investment. Boy, I want to tell you, that is the kind of investment I 
would like to make.
  Now, I serve on the Committee on Government Reform and Oversight, and 
the chairman of that committee is Chairman Clinger, and he and the 
staff of our committee have conducted an investigation, and he has 
contacted Attorney General Janet Reno and asked there be a special 
investigator, special counsel, appointed, independent counsel, to 
investigate allegations against Ron Brown. This investigation has 
developed specific allegations which the committee believes are 
sufficient to warrant the appointment of an independent counsel, Mr. 
Clinger said. The allegations are divided into five categories: First, 
submission of incomplete, inaccurate, and misleading financial 
disclosure statements; second, supplementation of salary; third, 
potential conflicts of interest; fourth, misinformation to Congress, 
and fifth refusing to respond to Congress.
  Now, let us go through these allegations real quickly. The first 
allegation, Secretary Brown failed to report his interest in and income 
from First International Communications, Limited Partnership, on his 
annual incumbent financial disclosure form. Why did he not put that on 
that report? The factual basis for the allegation is this; Secretary 
Brown's annual incumbent financial disclosure report, signed May 16, 
1994, failed to identify an interest in First International 
Communications, Limited Partnership. He did not even tell he was 
involved in that corporation, and he got $400,000 for it for no 
investment. Although it is unclear whether the Secretary still held an 
interest in First International Communications, Limited Partnership, on 
December 31, 1993, the Secretary received three $45,000 payments from 
First International Communications, Limited Partnership, during that 
year 1993. The first two checks dated April 15 and July 21 state that 
the checks were for ``Partnership distribution.'' Distribution of what? 
The company was going under. They had no assets except what was in that 
office that was owned also by Corridor, Inc., and yet he has getting 
all this money for no investment.
  The third check, dated October 15, simply says ``Distribution.'' 
Secretary Brown should have reported these payments as income during 
1993 even though he no longer held an interest in the partnership at 
the end of that year.
  (B) First International Communications Corp. and First International, 
Inc., allegations, Secretary Brown failed to accurately describe the 
basic
 activities of First International on his new entrant financial 
disclosure report. On his new entrant financial disclosure report 
signed January 1, 1993, Secretary Brown stated First International ``is 
a company that provides international and domestic consulting and 
investment services.'' Contrary to the Secretary's contention, the 
committee's evidence indicates First International was not involved in 
any sort of consulting or investment services at all. He misled what 
the intent of the company was on his report.

  Rather, its primary source of income was interest generated by a 
promissory note worth approximately $875,000 payable by Corridor 
Broadcasting. I would like to know where that $875,000 came from.
  Despite having defaulted on federally insured loans in excess of $40 
million by 1993, Corridor Broadcasting apparently continued to pay 
monthly interest payments of approximately $12,000 to First 
International on the $875,000 note. In short, while the American 
taxpayers were forced to absorb more than $40 million of Corridor's 
indebtedness, Corridor continued to pay $12,000 a month to Mr. Brown's 
company.
  Third, well, let me give you some factual basis on that real quickly. 
According to his annual incumbent financial disclosure report, 
Secretary Brown divested his interest in First International December 
15, 1993, receiving between $250,000 and $500,000. We believe it was 
around $400,000.
  Secretary Brown states in exchange for his share of First 
International he received direct payment of $135,000 and on and on and 
on. I covered a lot of this already. I will not go into it again.
  (D) purchase of a town house. Allegation: On his annual incumbent 
financial disclosure report, Secretary Brown failed to report either 
the execution of a promissory note or a gift of $108,000 used as 
downpayment for a town house located in Washington, DC. According to 
his annual incumbent financial disclosure report in 1993, Secretary 
Brown had a mortgage of $250,000 to $500,000 on a town house located at 
4303 Westover Place in Washington, DC. The mortgage was held by First 
Federal Savings and Loan of Rochester. In addition, Secretary Brown 
disclosed $5,000 to $15,000 in rental income generated by this property 
in 1993.
  Although this townhouse is the residence of Secretary Brown's friend, 
Lillian Madsen, the deed of trust lists Ronald H. Brown and Michael 
Brown, his son, as owners of the property. Other relevant real estate 
documents indicate that a down payment of $108,000 was made to purchase 
the property.
  As reported by U.S. News & World Report in February of 1995, 
Brazilian businessman Jose Amaro Pinto Ramos arranged for a substantial 
loan for a down payment on the townhouse to be made to Lillian Madsen 
through a bank in Paris, France. Ramos claimed he never spoke to 
Secretary Brown about the loan, and he was unaware that the Secretary 
owned the property. Unaware?
  According to the deed of trust now in effect, Ronald Brown and 
Michael Brown jointly own the property, subject only to the first 
mortgage of $252,000. No second mortgage or other encumbrance is listed 
on the property. Thus the Browns are the owners of $108,000 equity down 
payment. If Ms. Madsen provided the down payment, if 
[[Page E483]] Ms. Madsen provided the $108,000 down payment which is 
now owned by the Browns, the Secretary should have reported that down 
payment as a gift or as income. Where did she get $108,000 to pay down 
on that?
  You know, it was alleged Ron Brown got $700,000 in payment from the 
Vietnamese Government to normalize relations with Vietnam. The FBI 
verified that there was an electronic transfer of funds from the North 
Vietnamese Communist Government to a bank in Singapore just like the 
accuser, Mr. Bun Lee said. So maybe that $700,000 was paid. The money 
was transferred. There was a large sum of money transferred to a bank 
in Singapore, just as the accuser said.
  On the other hand, if Ronald Brown or Michael Brown arranged some 
sort of off-the-record agreement to eventually repay Ms. Madsen, 
Secretary Brown should have reported that agreement as a liability on 
his annual incumbent financial disclosure report.
  Funds provided by Ms. Madsen were not reported as a gift, as income, 
or as a liability on Secretary Brown's annual incumbent financial 
disclosure reports.
  Next allegation: Secretary Brown failed to report on his financial 
disclosure report that his interest in Boston Bank of Commerce 
Associates was a general partnership. Secretary Brown's new-entrant 
financial
 disclosure report does not identify Boston Bank of Commerce Associates 
as a general partnership. According to the Office of Government Ethics, 
the fact that the Boston Bank of Commerce Associates is a general 
partnership was discovered in April 1993. According to ethics law, the 
known interests of a general partner are imputed to the other owners, 
the other general partners. One of Secretary Brown's partners in Boston 
Bank of Commerce Associates provided Digital Equipment Corp. stock as 
capital in return for his partnership share. Thus imputing an interest 
in Digital to Boston Bank of Commerce Associates and the Secretary.

  Upon discovery, an apparent screening process was instituted to bar 
the Secretary from taking official action that would affect Digital.
  Albimar Communications, Inc., allegations: Secretary Brown failed to 
report on his new-entrant financial disclosure report and his annual 
incumbent financial disclosure report that his interests in Albimar 
Communications was a general partnership. According to both of his 
financial disclosure reports, Secretary Brown held an interest in 
Albimar Communications, which owns a radio station, WKYS, in 
Washington, DC. I have already gone into that. That is the loan that 
was forgiven, $10 million, by NBC.
  Payment of Secretary Brown's personal debt obligation, allegation: 
Secretary Brown failed to accurately report the future income he knew 
he would receive in 1994 on his annual incumbent financial disclosure 
report. According to his own incumbent report, Secretary Brown divested 
himself of his interest in First International on December 15, 1993, 
receiving, we believe, around $400,000. They say between $250,000 to 
$500,000 in this report. Secretary Brown claimed his divestiture of 
First International, which allegedly occurred on December 15, 1993, 
included, in part, the payment of some of his personal debt 
obligations. The evidence shows that the debt obligations were paid by 
or through Noland Hill, but on December 15, 1993; rather the payments 
were made during the summer of 1994, specifically nine payments 
totaling $190,995, against various debt obligations of Secretary Brown, 
were made to the following entities on the following dates--and they 
are all listed here.
  I can go on and on and on and on. I would like to submit the rest of 
these things for the Record. I pretty much covered that. But these are 
things that need to be investigated, if not by the Justice Department, 
through an independent counsel, they ought to be investigated by the 
Congress itself. But I talked to Representative Clinger today, and if 
the Justice Department does not ask for an independent counsel, it is 
my belief that we will hold hearings on this and Congress will get to 
the bottom of it. In other words, we are going to let an independent 
counsel, if he is duly appointed by a three-judge panel after being 
asked by Attorney General Reno, we will let it go that route. But if it 
does not, then the House of Representatives, I believe, will hold 
hearings and call Mr. Brown to testify to answer these allegations and 
questions.
  The second thing I want to talk about before I get to my good friend, 
the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. Fox], is something that happened 
today in Little Rock, AR. The special prosecutor, a special prosecutor 
appointed by the three-judge panel to replace Mr. Fiske, today indicted 
a man named Neal T. Ainley, who is a bank president in Little Rock, AR. 
He was president of the Perry County Bank in Perryville, AR, from 1989 
until March 1994.
  According to this indictment, he loaned $180,000 to Mr. Clinton 
during the 1990 gubernatorial campaign. That money was used by the 
Clinton campaign to buy or try to get some votes. It is alleged that 
some black ministers were the beneficiaries of a lot of this money that 
was used in order to get out some of the votes in critical precincts in 
Arkansas.
  The interesting thing about this is, right after the election took 
place and Mr. Clinton was reelected Governor, the owner of the bank 
became the secretary of transportation for the State, secretary of the 
highway department in Little Rock. And he, along with the bank 
officials, according to the indictment, helped repay the $180,000 loan 
that Mr. Clinton incurred during the campaign.
  The question is where did that $180,000 come from? Did it come from 
highway contractors that the new head of the highway department twisted 
their arms in order to get those moneys to repay those loans? Where did 
that money come from? That is something that needs to be looked into.
  I am sure Mr. Star is doing that.
  I might say at this point that Mr. Starr is doing an outstanding job 
as the independent counsel, and I
 think everybody in the country ultimately will see that and owe him a 
great debt of gratitude.

  But there are so many cases like that in Arkansas; there is another 
bank down there where was a $400,000 loan that was given to try to get 
legislation through the Arkansas State Legislature, and that money was 
never repaid either by the person that borrowed the money. And it was 
in the Clinton administration.
  Here you have $180,000 borrowed that was repaid by a person who got a 
job in the administration, running the highway department and the 
person that got the job at the highway department was the owner of the 
bank that loaned the money.
  It sure does smell bad.
  Then we come to the Mexican bailout, which 80 percent of the American 
people oppose. January 31, President Clinton and Treasury Secretary 
Robert Rubin announced a $49.8 billion--$49.8 billion; that is not 
millions, that is billions, three extra zeros--$49,800,000,000 bailout 
package for Mexico.
  The package included $20 billion in loans and loan guarantees from 
the Treasury Department's exchange stabilization fund, which was 
established in the 1930's to protect the value of the dollar and not 
other currencies. This exchange stabilization fund was established to 
protect the dollar in the international financial markets against an 
assault from other currencies, to protect the dollar. We are using $20 
billion of it to protect the Mexican peso, which is in a free fall 
right now. So the United States taxpayer is underwriting the Mexican 
Government's economic mistakes. The key underwriters of Mexico's 
dollar-denominated bonds, called tesobonos, have been the major United 
States investment banking firms. Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin, and 
this is very important, Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin was formerly 
cochairman of the Goldman-Sachs Investment Co. from 1992 to 1994. 
Goldman-Sachs was the largest United States underwriter of Mexican 
bonds. Although Rubin divested himself of his interest in Goldman-
Sachs, there is still a conflict of interest. There was $5.17 billion 
in investments made by Goldman-Sachs into the Mexican markets, more 
than double the other companies, the next two highest companies that 
invested in Mexico.
  When Secretary Rubin joined the White House staff in 1993 as Chairman 
of the National Economic Council, he 
[[Page E484]] recused himself, stepped aside for 1 year on all issues 
affecting Mexico. At that time, he was with the National Economic 
Council. Now he is the Treasury Secretary, and the Treasury Secretary 
has sole control over the exchange stabilization fund, where they took 
that $20 billion out of to give to Mexico. The only person that could 
stop him from doing that is the President himself, and yet he did not 
recuse himself this year. He did 2 years ago, when he did not have any 
power. Now, as Secretary of the Treasury, he can send $20 billion down 
there, he does not recuse himself, he stays involved.
  Now, there are a lot of questions that arise from that. Why did not 
he recuse himself? Could it be because of $5.17 billion that he had his 
clients invest in Mexico was under assault? That many of the people he 
recommended put their money into these Mexican financial instruments 
were going to lose their shirt because the peso was in free fall? And 
that he might be held responsible? He said he had a very large 
insurance policy to protect him against suits emanating from his 
recommendations. But, you know, I used to sell insurance, and I can 
tell you, if you got a million-dollar policy or $10 million or even a 
$50 million policy, it costs an arm and a leg. Here we are talking 
about not $50 million but $5,000,000,000, $5 billion. And if he were 
sued because of making--giving bad financial advice and investing in 
very bad speculative securities in Mexico, he probably could have been 
sued and it could have wiped out not only maybe his company, in large 
part, but himself and his whole personal fortune.
  So he had a vested interest, a vested interest in making sure that 
the money got down to Mexico to try to stabilize the peso in that 
economy. He should have recused himself. That is why there should be a 
complete congressional investigation.
  I understand the Committee on Banking is going to do that. We had a 
press conference today, and the chairman of the Subcommittee on Banking 
said they were going to call Mr. Rubin before them to ask questions 
about these things.
  Now, let me tell you some other things about Mr. Rubin. Employees of 
his company, Goldman-Sachs, especially Mr. Rubin himself, contributed 
heavily to the Clinton campaign and the Democrat Party. Goldman-Sachs 
employees and families were responsible for the largest contribution 
the Clinton campaign got in 1992 from a single firm, almost $100,000.
  Robert Rubin and his wife contributed $275,000 to the New York Host 
Committee for the Democrat National Convention in 1992. A Washington 
lobbyist for Goldman-Sachs, Michael Berman, was instrumental in setting 
up President Clinton's legal defense fund and is actively soliciting 
contributions to it. The fund was established to pay his expenses, 
President Clinton's expenses in the sexual harassment lawsuit filed by 
Paul Cobin Jones.
  So this company, Goldman-Sachs, and Mr. Rubin are tied inextricably 
together, and they are the largest investor in Mexico, investing so 
much of their clients' funds down there and now he is trying to 
stabilize the Mexican economy, which will help protect his investors' 
money. If that is not a conflict of interest, I do not know what is. 
Yet he did not recuse himself and says he did nothing wrong.
  This is something that is very, very serious. Mr. Rubin and the 
administration are evidently using the United States taxpayers' money 
not to the tune of $20 billion but overall to the tune of about $55 
billion to help stabilize the Mexican economy, and that is a real crap 
shoot because if that economy continues to go like it is, the American 
people, taxpayers, might very well have to pay the $55 billion. And it 
will not be worth a dime.
  They say that they are going to use the oil sales of Mexico to 
guarantee repayment of the loan, but there are so many financial 
obligations against the Mexican Government, not to mention what is 
coming out of the United States from the exchange stabilization fund 
and these other funds that if they went under, if they had an economic 
collapse down there, they could not repay all of these loans. And I 
doubt seriously if the United States of America would ask them to pay 
out of their oil sales because they would need that money for current 
expenses. How would the government, how would the country survive if 
they did not have any income coming in? They would not have, if we took 
away something like their oil sales.
  So this whole Mexican bailout in a debacle. They could not get it 
through the Congress of the United States. They could not get the votes 
so unilaterally the President and Mr. Rubin decided to do it. Now we 
find out that there may have been some ulterior motives for Mr. Rubin 
taking this action and President Clinton for going along with it. It is 
a real mess. I think that my colleagues and I ought to take a hard look 
at this.
  Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gentleman from Pennsylvania. [Mr. Fox].
  Mr. FOX of Pennsylvania. Mr. Speaker, with the gentleman's 
permission, I would like to ask a few questions based on the 
discussions you have had here in the House this evening about the very 
important questions dealing with Secretary Brown and as well the crisis 
that we have now in Mexico and with the intervention of the United 
States precipitously by the President without any congressional 
involvement.
  Let me first ask you, with regard to Secretary Brown and the Clinton 
administration, is it your opinion that the lawyers resigning and the 
Cabinet members leaving under a cloud, does this tell you anything 
unusual about the Clinton administration, whether or not there was 
sufficient investigations done?
  Mr. BURTON of Indiana. Well, we have found through our investigation, 
we used to have what was called the Republican Study Committee. I 
chaired that. We did extensive investigation into Whitewater, 
Whitewater Development Corp. and the Arkansas Development Financial 
Authority and a lot of other things. We have found an awful lot of 
questionable activity that took place under the Clinton administration 
in Arkansas. And a lot of the people who were involved in the Clinton 
administration in Arkansas were brought to Washington by President 
Clinton to help in his administration.
  If you look at the things that we are finding out about many of those 
people, some of their activities, like Webster Hubbell, his illegal 
activities were taking place prior to the time he came to be in the 
administration. It seems to me that the President, when he was 
Governor, would have known or should have known about some of the 
activities of these people, because he surrounded himself with them 
during the entire time he was Governor, which was over a long period of 
time, over 10 years. So it is inconceivable
 that he could not have known at least something about these people.

  It is unfortunate that he brought them to Washington, because now 
they are leaving. As one of my colleagues said today, it is like a 
rusty door on rusty hinges. It is about to fall over. It does a 
disservice not only to the administration but to the entire country.
  Mr. FOX of Pennsylvania. What about the $700,000 bribe? What was the 
final upshot of that case.
  Mr. BURTON of Indiana. The $700,000 alleged bribe, the man who made 
the allegation was a man named Binh Ly who was working with a Korean or 
a Vietnamese agent named Mr. Hao. Mr. Ly and Mr. Hao went to Vietnam to 
try to normalize relations with that government, tried to work out some 
kind of a normalization relationship. Mr. Ly wanted to do it because he 
is a patriot. He believed that they ought to get away from the 
Communist regime and get to free enterprise over there. He thought this 
was a way to do it.
  When he got over there, he found out from Mr. Hao that there was an 
alleged $700,000 payment to be made to Mr. Brown as a first 
installment, a first installment on payments to him as a good-faith 
installment to get him to help use his position in the government to 
normalize relations with Vietnam.
  We found many cases where Mr. Brown or people on his staff at the 
Commerce Department did take action at various high level meetings over 
at the White House to try to get the normalization process started. As 
you know, they were successful. We are on a path toward complete 
normalization with Vietnam, even though we have never gotten a full 
accounting on the POW/MIAs that were left behind and we never did find 
out if the $700,000 was 
[[Page E485]] really paid, because Mr. Hubbell and Janet Reno, they 
sent one of their top lieutenants down there to whitewash the grand 
jury investigation in Miami, I believe.
  As a result, we do not know whether the money was paid. The FBI did 
say, however, that what Mr. Ly said in the lie detector test, which he 
passed, took 6 hours, that the money that was alleged to have been sent 
from the Vietnamese Government to a bank in Singapore could very well 
have happened because there was a large transfer of funds from the 
Vietnamese Government to a bank in Singapore at the same time that all 
this took place. So Mr. Brown could have received that money.
  Mr. STOCKMAN. Mr. Speaker, if the gentleman will yield, do I 
understand you correctly, where we have possible prisoners in Vietnam, 
we have somebody working for the White House willing to sell out their 
country for $700,000? Is that correct?
  Mr. BURTON of Indiana. That is the allegation that was made because 
there are still people who believe there are POW/MIAs that may still be 
alive over there. A lot of people who served in Vietnam believe that. 
Even if they are not alive, we had a commitment from every single 
President since the Vietnam war who has said we would not do business 
or normalize relations with Vietnam until we had a complete accounting. 
Of the 2,300 that are still unaccounted for over there, I would say 
probably 2,000 still are unaccounted for. And yet we are normalizing 
relations. American industry is being allowed to invest over there. Mr. 
Brown is playing a very key role in getting that down.
  The allegation that Mr. Ly made was that the $700,000 was just a down 
payment and that Mr. Brown was supposed to get royalties or a 
percentage of the oil that was developed from the oil fields off the 
shore of Vietnam, which is supposed to be the third largest oil field 
in the world.
  We are talking about tens and hundreds of millions of dollars.
  Mr. STOCKMAN. I just personally find that offensive that we could 
have our boys back there possibly still in the field before we got a 
total accounting, that some individual was willing to sell out his 
country for $700,000.
  Mr. BURTON of Indiana. I am sure it was more than that. But the 
bottom line is that when the grand jury investigated Mr. Brown, they 
did not exonerate him. They said they did not have enough evidence to 
indict. And when the FBI was pulled off the case, I believe at the 
request of the Justice Department and Web Hubbell and Janet Reno, I 
think they did a real disservice to the country and to those families 
that have those 2,000 or 2,300 people still left unaccounted for over 
there.
  Mr. FOX of Pennsylvania. Mr. Speaker, I know the Members of the House 
would like to know as well as the public, what is it with regard, if we 
have delinquent loans and we have forgiven loans which are questionable 
and we have failure to file with the government authorities on
 limited partnerships with the Secretary of Commerce here, in your 
opinion, do you think that we have sufficient evidence or information 
so that the independent counsel could be appointed?

  Mr. BURTON of Indiana. Yes. I think that the gentleman from 
Pennsylvania, Chairman Clinger, of the Committee on Government Reform 
and Oversight, made a very, very strong case when he wrote to Janet 
Reno this week, when he asked her, he cited case after case after case 
after case where there are allegations of wrongdoing and breaking of 
the law by Mr. Brown. And he said that he would allow her to and he 
urged her to pick an independent counsel through the three-judge panel. 
And if she does that and we get a truly independent counsel to 
investigate these allegations, then he felt like there would not be a 
necessity for the Congress to conduct hearings.
  However, as I said before, if that does not take place, I talked to 
Chairman Clinger today, and I am convinced or under the impression that 
we will hold hearings if we do not get that independent counsel.
  Mr. FOX of Pennsylvania. If there would not be an independent 
counsel, in your opinion, you believe that the Committee on the 
Judiciary or the Government Reform and Oversight Committee would have 
the right to do its own investigation.
  Mr. BURTON of Indiana. The Committee on Government Reform and 
Oversight, I think, would have jurisdiction in this case. And I think 
we would be the committee that would hold the hearings. I would urge 
the chairman to do that, and I believe he will.
  Mr. FOX of Pennsylvania. Mr. Speaker, on this latest indictment, we 
have Neal Ainley that is connected to a questionable campaign loan back 
to the Clinton administration.
  Mr. BURTON of Indiana. Yes. That was a $180,000 non-secured loan, and 
that loan was made by this Mr. Neal Ainley. He was president of this 
bank in Perryville, AR, called the Perry County Bank. And this guy, I 
do not know, he may be the scapegoat, I do not know.
  The thing that is interesting is, as I said before, the owner of the 
bank, not the president, but the owner of the bank became the head of 
the State Highway Department. And he assisted, as I understand it, the 
bank officials in raising the money to pay off the loan.
  And all I can think of is some of the highway scandals I heard of 
before where highway contractors were urged to cough up money to take 
care of various needs of administration officials in other States. And 
it seems to me a $180,000 loan that was made by a bank and then the 
owner of that bank becomes a State highway official, the top dog there, 
and then he helps repay the loan, it seems to me he had to get that 
money from someplace so we ought to investigate where that money came 
from.
  Mr. FOX of Pennsylvania. I know that you and Congressman Stockman 
have been very much at the forefront of the public outcry about this 
whole Mexican bailout. I wanted to ask you a couple of questions so 
that we can have our colleagues understand where we are at this point.
  In your opinion, is the Clinton $20 billion loan guarantee an 
overreaching by the executive branch without congressional intervention 
whatsoever, an obligation that should have been to the American people 
first in forming the Congress, and that the executive branch, through 
the President, should not have taken action?
  Mr. BURTON of Indiana. Yes. It is an absolute travesty, in my 
opinion, that the American people were not listened to and that the 
people's House and the Senate were not consulted about this bailout.
  The fact of the matter is, and I wanted to congratulate Mr. Stockman 
for his hard work in trying to bring this issue to the floor, I think 
he will prevail to get it to the floor, but the fact of the matter is, 
I was one of the people that worked on the initial legislation that was 
being drafted to try to work out the kinks to be able to help stabilize 
the economy in Mexico. And some of the things that we put in there in 
the legislation before we would guarantee the loan was that there had 
to be at least about 30 percent of the loan put into American banks in 
the form of negotiable securities so if the Government of Mexico 
defaulted, we could get right off the top real fast 30 percent of the 
loan back. And if we did that in a timely fashion, we probably would 
not suffer any loss and the taxpayer would suffer no loss in this 
country, even though we did help stabilize the economy down there.
  In addition to that, we have provisions in the bill that said Mexico 
could no longer help the Communist Government of Cuba. Right now the 
Mexican Government, through direct or indirect financial assistance to 
Castro, are giving him $200 million to
 $400 million a year. We guaranteed these loans, and they continue to 
do business with Castro. We have an embargo against Castro, 90 miles 
from our shore, the last bastion of communism in the world. And here 
the Mexican Government is helping Cuba to a large degree, and we are 
bailing them out. And I would not be a bit surprised if some of the 
money that we are giving to them to bail them out is not funneling its 
way over to Castro to keep him afloat. So we put a provision in there 
that said that no money could get to Castro. We also put a provision in 
there that said that we had to protect our borders and Mexico had to 
help. They had to work with us on both sides of the 1,980-mile border 
between us and Mexico to keep illegal aliens from coming out. And we 
also 
[[Page E486]] had a provision in there to send prisoners in United 
States jails, and we have hundreds, probably have a couple hundred 
thousand of them, back to Mexico for execution of sentence, because it 
is costing the American taxpayers $30,000 to $35,000 apiece to keep 
them incarcerated here. So we had a lot of provisions in the bill to 
protect the taxpayer.
  Now, the President and Mr. Rubin and the Mexican officials said, we 
do not want any conditions on the money. Get that. They did not want 
any conditions on the money.
  And so we said, you are not going to get the votes in the Congress to 
pass that, or the Senate, and the American people are not going to 
support a loan bailout unless there is protections on the money.
  We can guarantee we are going to get at least so much of our money 
back and that these other provisions in there to protect our borders 
and to stop them from doing business with Castro and in violation of 
the embargo. So what happens is the President says, hey, if we cannot 
get Congress to do it, I will do it myself. And he used the Exchange 
Stabilization Fund in violation of what we believe the law is because 
that money is supposed to only be used to stabilize the dollar. And he 
is using it to stabilize the peso. So he did an end around the American 
taxpayer and the Congress of the United States.
  Mr. STOCKMAN. I would like to understand that. He transferred from 
what I understand, Rubin transferred $7 billion as opposed to the loan 
guarantees already $7 billion. He originally asked for $40 billion. It 
is up now to $53 billion. And this thing keeps spiraling out of 
control. And today shocking news that was reported over the Mexican 
airwaves, I do not know if it is true or not, but the brother of the 
former president of Mexico participated in the assassination down there 
in Mexico. That is going to drive the markets down further. I think we 
have just been ripped off, and the American taxpayer is going to end up 
paying for this failure of Clinton to realize that this is a bad deal. 
This is a ripoff, and originally it was loan guarantees. Now it is 
outright payments to Mexico. This is a travesty.
  Mr. BURTON of Indiana. I think the gentleman is absolutely right, $7 
billion has already gone down there. The peso continues to drop. And 
every time it drops, that means its relationship to the dollar drops, 
which means that they are going to have to use this money to bail 
themselves out. And that $7 billion is very likely done. We might as 
well have burned it up in the middle of the street. It is not saving 
the Mexican economy. The taxpayers of this country, 80 percent of them 
did not want us to do it anyhow. So since the President cannot get it 
down through Congress, he does it by himself. This is not a 
dictatorship.
  Mr. STOCKMAN. Not only that, the people of Mexico were opposed to it. 
The people in the United States were opposed to it. This is like a 
shotgun wedding where both participants did not want to participate. 
This is just outrageous. The day they announced the agreement, the 
stock market and peso dropped. That shows you that both business and 
government oppose this deal.
  It is ridiculous that we are proceeding with this and continuing 
after all the signs in the market.
  Rubin is a smart guy. He knows what the markets say is true and the 
markets are speaking and they say this is a bad deal, yet Rubin is 
proceeding with it. The reason he is proceeding with it is because it 
is not his money, it is the taxpayers' money.
  Mr. BURTON of Indiana. Yet the one thing we talked about earlier, you 
and I talked about at the press conference today, is questions need to 
be answered about why Mr. Rubin was so insistent that we use the 
exchange stabilization fund and that $20 billion to send down there. A 
lot of people think it was because he was trying to protect his former 
company and his own hindquarters because he advised those people to put 
their money down there to the tune of $5.17 billion. And if he did it 
for that reason, that is certainly a violation.
  Mr. STOCKMAN. He knows what is in that blind trust. He says it is a 
blind trust, but he just put it in that blind trust. He knows what is 
in there.
  Mr. BURTON of Indiana. The people who may be paying attention in 
their offices, other Congressmen, need to know what you are talking 
about. He said he put his money into a blind trust so he did not know 
what that money was being invested in. But Goldman Sachs and he are 
very close. He was a partner in that company, and you are absolutely 
right, he does know in my opinion.
  Mr. STOCKMAN. He is a financial expert. He knows exactly what is in 
there.
  Mr. FOX of Pennsylvania. Mr. Speaker, if the gentleman will yield, I 
appreciate what Congressman Stockman and you have brought out here. But 
I think the problem the American public wants to know about is not only 
do we have a contract, or loan guarantees without Congress' 
intervention, we do not have the Border Patrol with the illegal 
immigration you spoke of, we do not have the reduction that we want to 
see in the illegal drug sales, and we also do not have, I do not think, 
any guarantee that the collateral is sufficient.
  Mr. BURTON of Indiana. The collateral is not sufficient. Anybody who 
really knows what is going on with the oil sales in Mexico and that 
kind of a deal will tell you that if they were to default, and it is 
very likely that they will at least on a large part of this loan, or 
gift or whatever you want to call it, if they default, for us to take 
the revenues from their oil production, that State-owned oil company 
down there, would leave that company with no money to operate the 
government. There would be absolute chaos down there, and we would 
probably see millions more people coming across that border because of 
the destabilization of the economy.
  So that money that is being guaranteed from those oil sales to repay 
this loan in the event of a default, I do not think is going to be 
there. So the American taxpayer really in my opinion has no collateral 
whatsoever for this $53 billion or $54 billion loan bailout.
  Mr. FOX of Pennsylvania. As a result of your work on the committee, 
there is going to be, with the help of Congressman King, an information 
request of the White House with regard to 80 or 90 pieces of 
information on what documentation they have to use the stabilization 
fund, what legal authority they are operating under, and when we get 
that information, what do you think we should be doing next?
  Mr. BURTON of Indiana. I think that information is essential, but in 
addition to that, we need to get Mr. Stockman's bill to the floor which 
would stop this loan program completely. Because we represent the 
American people. And we cannot take care of a lot of the problems we 
have in this country. Right now, we are cutting spending dramatically. 
Six subcommittees of appropriations I understand last week cut $17 
billion out of programs here in the United States. That is $17 billion. 
And while we are cutting U.S. programs, as we should, to get this 
Government under control and to reduce the size of Government, we are 
spending up to $53 billion bailing out Mexico with no collateral. It 
makes absolutely no sense. None whatsoever.
  Mr. STOCKMAN. Mr. Speaker, if the gentleman will yield, I would like 
to point out, too, that there is some critical factor here. The first 
request, a lot of people do not know this. There had already been $17 
billion put into the Mexican economy, they came back and asked for $40 
billion, now it is up to $53 billion.
  My question is, at what point do we say, $100 billion, $200 billion, 
at what point do we say we are throwing good money after bad?
  This is a clear indication to me that the economy
   down there is unraveling. It is kind of like Visine, you stick it in 
your eye, it gets the red out but it comes back with a vengeance.

  We are just postponing in my belief the inevitable, which is that the 
company and the bonds, the tesebonos, are going to default and I think 
we need to take that bitter pill now instead of having the American 
taxpayer take the bitter pill. I think it is outrageous.
  Mr. BURTON of Indiana. I agree with my colleague entirely, and I 
cannot believe if there is a default on the loan that our Government 
and the people we represent are going to stand still for pouring good 
money after bad.
  [[Page E487]] Mr. STOCKMAN. It is over $100 million per district. I 
tell you, $100 million, I could run a darn good campaign on that, too.
  Mr. BURTON of Indiana. I hope everyone got that; $100 million for 
every congressional district in the country is going down there.
  Mr. FOX of Pennsylvania. If the gentleman will yield, I would ask you 
or Congressman Stockman, what would be the effect of your legislation 
with regard to this loan guarantee by the President which has been 
done?
  Mr. STOCKMAN. What it would do is stop any loan guarantee, anything 
at all in the form of any kind of payments to the country of Mexico. 
This is not a racist thing. It has nothing to do with that. It is a 
financial deal. And the finances of it is that it is wrong for America.
  In fact, I will tell you, it is on both sides of the aisle that 
oppose this, and I bet you if we put the bill to the floor, it would 
pass with flying colors with very little opposition.
  This is a bill that just says, enough is enough. We gave them already 
billions and billions of dollars. We had the Brady bill, we had many 
other bills of rescue packages since 1982. In fact, seven packages, all 
have been rescuing Mexico, and each time we come back to the well.
  We need to say to a country which has socialized industry, a lot of 
people do not know that. They have a nationalized oil industry, they 
have a nationalized, they are just unnationalizing their telephone 
company.
  By the way, Rubin was the negotiator to unnationalize that. That is 
incredible. We are going through these series of processes and we are 
not looking at what the country is doing.
  Let's face it. Just today we found out that the brother is connected 
to the murder. This country is not the same country as the United 
States. We are dealing with a totally different Third-World country. We 
are not even bailing out Orange County. Yet we are bailing out Mexico. 
I just find it appalling. But the bill would stop it all.
  Mr. BURTON of Indiana. Your bill would stop it immediately.
  Mr. STOCKMAN. Immediately. The only way that he could get around it 
is if Clinton vetoed it.
  Mr. BURTON of Indiana. The interesting thing about Mr. Rubin is that 
one of the clients that he represented was the Mexican Government 
itself. I mean, that was one of his clients when he was with Goldman 
Sachs.
  Mr. STOCKMAN. I think he is still representing them.
  Mr. BURTON of Indiana. Right. And here he was representing the 
Mexican Government with his company Goldman Sachs and now as Treasury 
Secretary, he is putting all this money down there, taxpayers' money. 
There is a conflict, there is no question.
  Mr. STOCKMAN. He came before our committee, and I asked him, I said, 
``Who is the No. 1 adviser to the President on this issue?''
  He said, ``I am.''
  I said, ``Did you receive any calls from outside interests?''
  At first he said no. He said, ``Yes, I think I did.''
  I think we need to know who that was and what they discussed.
  Mr. BURTON of Indiana. He did not testify the outside person?
  Mr. STOCKMAN. No, he did not.
  Mr. BURTON of Indiana. Were any of them the people that paid him $26 
million in salary last year?
  Mr. STOCKMAN. That is all you need is one phone call from them.
  Mr. BURTON of Indiana. Anything else from my colleague?
  Mr. FOX of Pennsylvania. Yes, I would ask the Congressman, at this 
point where can the public help you and help us move forward in this 
debate?
  Mr. BURTON of Indiana. I would say to my
   colleague and all of the Members here, if their constituents were 
interested, I would urge them to contact their Congressman, their 
Senator, and the White House and say, we want an up-or-down vote in the 
U.S. House of Representatives just like the votes are taken on any 
appropriation bill, any spending bill. There needs to be an up-or-down 
vote on whether or not our Congressmen and our Senators want to send 
this amount of money to Mexico as a bailout. And if the American people 
scream loudly enough, then I think there is a real possibility that Mr. 
Stockman's bill will not only come to the floor but it will pass the 
House and pass the Senate and we will stop this nonsense very quickly.

  There is a question about what is going to happen if we cut off these 
funds. There could very well be some upheaval down there. But I believe 
that upheaval is likely to take place, anyhow, and what we are doing is 
throwing good money after bad and the American taxpayer is going to 
lose this money and they are still going to have these problems.
  If they are going to have those problems, anyhow, we might as well 
let them happen and deal with them as they happen and save the taxpayer 
this money.
  Mr. STOCKMAN. I would like to point out that $53 billion would buy an 
incredible fence.
  Mr. BURTON of Indiana. I am not sure that we want to build a fence 
between us and Mexico. But you are absolutely right.
  Mr. STOCKMAN. Who is going to get us out when we collapse? We are 
arguing on the floor every day over a billion dollars. Yet we are doing 
$53 billion. We are arguing over $100 million. We are talking about, we 
are being accused of cutting school lunches. Yet we turn around and 
give $53 billion. I think the upheaval will happen here if we collapse 
and we cannot handle ourselves.
  Mr. BURTON of Indiana. I think the American people, it is hard for 
them to comprehend 53,000 million. It is not 53 million, it is 53,000 
million dollars total that you are talking about. And the American 
people, I think many people cannot comprehend that amount of money. But 
when you think about the national debt being what it is and the deficit 
being what it is and what we are going to face in the next few years if 
we do not get control of spending and here we are taking all this money 
that could be used to reduce the deficit or be used for projects here 
in the United States like in Orange County where they have got a 
terrible problem, or maybe in your district, yours or mine, and we are 
sending it down there, the American people I think would be very, very 
upset.
  The problem is, they need to know about it and they really have not I 
think heard enough about this issue.
  Mr. STOCKMAN. I am offering to pay my staff now in pesos. I think it 
is a fair deal.
  Mr. BURTON of Indiana. Very good.
  Mr. FOX of Pennsylvania. I think the fact is that your dialog tonight 
with our colleagues here on the House floor and hopefully Members of 
the public who may be listening along here in the gallery will find 
that in fact this dialog is important, because here we have an 
opportunity to look at America's needs first. And while we are looking 
to trim our government here in the Contract With America, let's look to 
see what America's needs are first and when we get involved with any 
other country, and we can do that, let's do it in a way that Congress 
has the involvement, that Congress is going to be obligated and we have 
the opportunity to make the conditions that are important to protect 
our American citizens.
  It did not take place in this instance because the White House, I 
believe, had an overreaching.
  Mr. BURTON of Indiana. They usurped the authority of the spending 
house of the Congress, the U.S. House of Representatives.
  We spend about $13 or $14 billion a year all over the world in 
foreign aid, $13 or $14 billion, maybe $15 billion total in foreign aid 
and our constituents holler to high heaven when we have town meetings 
about the foreign aid. They say, ``Why are you sending that money 
overseas when we have these problems here at home?''
  And that is $14 billion. Here in one country we are talking about as 
much as $53 billion or almost four times, about four times what we are 
spending in all the foreign aid all around the world. So this is really 
a debacle. And the President has taken this upon himself without any 
act of the Congress.
  One of the things that is interesting about President Clinton is that 
he decided to go into Haiti when he knew the Congress would not support 
that. If you have been to Haiti, you know it is a real mess and we are 
going to spend 
[[Page E488]] a billion and a half dollars at
 least down there.

  In the Mexican bailout, he took that action unilaterally. There have 
been other cases where the Congress was not consulted where we should 
have been. It just seems to me that a message needs to be sent down to 
the White House very clearly that this is a republic, not a 
dictatorship, and the President should not be doing these things 
unilaterally and we need to express that very clearly.
  That is why it is extremely important tomorrow when we have our 
Republican conference that we get all of our colleagues there to try to 
make sure that we are allowed to bring a bill to the floor so we can 
have an up-or-down vote on this issue.
  Mr. STOCKMAN. It is H.R. 480, by the way.
  Mr. BURTON of Indiana. H.R. 480. You have me on as a cosponsor, I 
hope?
  Mr. STOCKMAN. Yes, sir, right there at the top.
  Mr. BURTON of Indiana. Very good.
  Mr. STOCKMAN. I just want to thank the gentleman for bringing this to 
light and your efforts and your guidance. As a freshman we oftentimes 
do not know what to do here. We are real frustrated.
  I know I was talking with the gentleman from Pennsylvania, and we 
were pleased that you helped on the leadership on this and really told 
us which way to go. A lot of times, you are new here, you do not know 
it. You have really taken this thing forward. I just want to thank you 
publicly for your leadership and for your guidance on this. I really 
appreciate it.
  Mr. BURTON of Indiana. I appreciate that very much. But if it was not 
for you introducing the bill and working so hard getting all those 
cosigners on that letter, we would not be at this point right now. But 
the battle is not over. We need to fight very hard in the next few days 
to bring a bill to the floor so we can have an up-or-down vote. If we 
do that, get it to the floor, it will pass and it will pass, as you 
said, handily.
  Mr. FOX of Pennsylvania. I also wanted to join the gentleman from 
Texas in acknowledging our appreciation for your leadership in this. We 
look forward to working with you in committee for a positive result for 
the people.
  Mr. BURTON of Indiana. Thank you very much.
  As we conclude, Mr. Speaker, this special order, let me just say 
there are a lot of issues we have raised tonight. I hope my colleagues 
will pay attention to all of those as well as anybody else that might 
be paying attention.
  There are so many things that have been going wrong with this 
administration that need to be corrected. We as a Congress need to 
exert our oversight rights to make sure that the American people are 
well-represented.
  Mr. Speaker, I include the following for the Record:

     Re Request for a Independent Counsel to Investigate the 
         Financial Holdings and Activities of Secretary of 
         Commerce Ronald H. Brown.
     Hon. Janet Reno,
     Attorney General, U.S. Department of Justice, Washington, DC.
       Dear Attorney General Reno: For over a year, I, as then-
     Ranking Member of the Government Operations Committee and now 
     as Chairman of the Government Reform and Oversight Committee, 
     have been conducting an investigation into the financial 
     holdings and activities of Secretary of Commerce Ronald H. 
     Brown, pursuant to my authority under Rules X and XI of the 
     House of Representatives. And, for over a year, in response 
     to direct questions posed to the Secretary, I have received 
     inaccurate, incomplete, and misleading responses, or no 
     response at all.
       This investigation has developed specific allegations which 
     the Committee believes are sufficient to warrant the 
     appointment of an Independent Counsel. As you have previously 
     determined that Secretary Brown is a ``covered individual'' 
     under the Independent Counsel Act, 28 U.S.C. Sec. 591 et. 
     seq., the Committee requests that you add the allegations set 
     forth in the attached appendix to those matters already under 
     review as part of your preliminary investigation.
       The allegations are divided into five categories: (I) 
     Submission of Incomplete, Inaccurate and Misleading Financial 
     Disclosure Statements; (II) Supplementation of Salary; (III) 
     Potential Conflicts of Interest (IV) Misinformation to 
     Congress, and; (V) Refusing to Respond to Congress. Under 
     each category are specific allegations followed by a factual 
     basis for each assertion and the relevant statutory and 
     regulatory citations. In some instances, the factual basis 
     for an allegation is reiterated under more than one category 
     because the facts support multiple allegations.
       As requested in Deputy Assistant Attorney General John 
     Keeney's letter of February 23, 1995 to me, I will provide to 
     your office copies of the documents obtained to date in the 
     investigation of Secretary Brown. These documents serve as 
     the underlying support for the allegations set forth in the 
     attached appendix. I expect to complete that process not 
     later than March 10, 1995.
       Some of the information obtained during our investigation 
     was provided by confidential sources. These documents will be 
     identified for your information. Because I pledged anonymity 
     in consideration of this material, I am not prepared to 
     reveal the identity of the sources at this time.
       Please understand that the Committee will continue its 
     investigation. As new information is developed, and 
     adequately substantiated, we will provide it to you. Although 
     I do not presently plan to hold hearings on this matter, I 
     reserve the right to schedule hearings as circumstances 
     warrant.
       Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions. I 
     appreciate your cooperation in this matter.
           Sincerely,
                                          William F. Clinger, Jr.,
                                                         Chairman.
       Enclosure.

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4, 1977, calls for establishment of a system for a computerized 
schedule of all meetings and hearings of Senate committees, 
subcommittees, joint committees, and committees of conference. This 
title requires all such committees to notify the Office of the Senate 
Daily Digest--designated by the Rules Committee--of the time, place, 
and purpose of the meetings, when scheduled, and any cancellations or 
changes in the meetings as they occur.
  As an additional procedure along with the computerization of this 
information, the Office of the Senate Daily Digest will prepare this 
information for printing in the Extensions of Remarks section of the 
Congressional Record on Monday and Wednesday of each week.
  Meetings scheduled for Thursday, March 2, 1995, may be found in the 
Daily Digest of today's Record.

                           MEETINGS SCHEDULED

                                MARCH 3
     9:30 a.m.
       Appropriations
       VA, HUD, and Independent Agencies Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the National Credit Union Administration, 
           the Neighborhood Reinvestment Corporation, the Federal 
           Deposit Insurance Corporation, and the Resolution Trust 
           Corporation-Inspector General.
                                                            SD-138
     10:00 a.m.
       Appropriations
       Foreign Operations Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for foreign assistance programs, focusing on 
           security cooperation in Europe.
                                                            SD-192
       Judiciary
         To hold hearings to examine proposals to reform Federal 
           habeas corpus regulations, focusing on the elimination 
           of prisoners' abuse of the judicial process.
                                                            SD-226

                                MARCH 6
     10:00 a.m.
       Joint Library
         Organizational meeting to consider pending committee 
           business.
                                                            SR-301
     2:00 p.m.
       Appropriations
       Treasury, Postal Service, General Government Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the Office of National Drug Control 
           Policy.
                                                            SD-192
       Energy and Natural Resources
         To hold hearings on S. 333, to direct the Secretary of 
           Energy to institute certain procedures in the 
           performance of risk assessments in connection with 
           environmental restoration activities.
                                                            SD-366
       Joint Printing
         Organizational meeting to consider pending committee 
           business.
                                                    H-164, Capitol

                                MARCH 7
     9:00 a.m.
       Finance
         To hold hearings on the FCC tax certificate program.
                                                            SD-215
     9:30 a.m.
       Armed Services
         To resume hearings on proposed legislation authorizing 
           funds for fiscal year 1996 for the Department of 
           Defense and the future years defense program.
                                                            SR-222
       Budget
         To hold hearings to examine various privatization 
           initiatives.
                                                            SD-608
       Energy and Natural Resources
       Parks, Historic Preservation and Recreation Subcommittee
         To hold joint hearings with the House Committee on 
           Resources' Subcommittee on National Parks, Forests, and 
           Lands to review the health of the National Park System.
                                                            SD-366
       Environment and Public Works
       Drinking Water, Fisheries, and Wildlife Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on S. 191, to revise the Endangered 
           Species Act of 1973 to ensure that constitutionally 
           protected private property rights are not infringed 
           until adequate protection is afforded by 
           reauthorization of the Act, and to protect against 
           economic losses from critical habitat designation, and 
           other proposed legislation to institute a moratorium on 
           certain activities under authority of the Endangered 
           Species Act.
                                                            SD-406
       Veterans' Affairs
         To hold joint hearings with the House Committee on 
           Veterans' Affairs to review the legislative 
           recommendations of the Veterans of Foreign Wars.
                                               345 Cannon Building
     10:00 a.m.
       Appropriations
       Commerce, Justice, State, and Judiciary Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the Department of Commerce.
                                                    S-146, Capitol
       Governmental Affairs
         Business meeting, to mark up S. 219, to ensure economy 
           and efficiency of Federal Government operations by 
           establishing a moratorium on regulatory rulemaking 
           actions.
                                                            SD-342
       Judiciary
         To hold hearings to examine the jury process, focusing on 
           the search for truth in trials.
                                                            SD-226
       Indian Affairs
         To hold oversight hearings to review Federal programs 
           which address the challenges facing Indian youth.
                                                            SR-485
     2:00 p.m.
       Appropriations
       Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education 
           Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the Department of Labor.
                                                            SD-192

                                MARCH 8
     9:30 a.m.
       Appropriations
       Interior Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the United States Geological Survey, 
           Department of the Interior.
                                                            SD-116
       Energy and Natural Resources
         To hold oversight hearings on domestic petroleum 
           production and international supply.
                                                            SD-366
       Governmental Affairs
         To resume hearings on proposed legislation to reform the 
           Federal regulatory process, to make government more 
           efficient and effective.
                                                            SD-342
       Small Business
         To hold hearings on the proposed ``Regulatory Flexibility 
           Amendments Act.''
                                                           SR-428A
     10:00 a.m.
       Appropriations
       Agriculture, Rural Development, and Related Agencies 
           Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for rural economic and community development 
           services of the Department of Agriculture.
                                                            SD-138
       Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs
         To resume oversight hearings on the condition of credit 
           unions.
                                                            SD-538
     1:30 p.m.
       Foreign Relations
       East Asian and Pacific Affairs Subcommittee
         To hold hearings to examine intellectual property rights 
           with regard to the People's Republic of China.
                                                            SD-419
     2:00 p.m.
       Energy and Natural Resources
       Forests and Public Land Management Subcommittee
         To hold oversight hearings on Forest Service appeals.
                                                            SD-366
       Select on Intelligence
         To hold closed hearings on intelligence matters.
                                                            SH-219
     2:30 p.m.
       Indian Affairs
         To hold oversight hearings to examine the structure and 
           funding of the Bureau of Indian Affairs.
                                                            SR-485

                                MARCH 9
     9:30 a.m.
       Agriculture, Nutrition, and Forestry
         To hold hearings on proposed legislation to strengthen 
           and improve United States agricultural programs, 
           focusing on cost issues of certain farm programs.
                                                            SR-332
       Energy and Natural Resources
         Business meeting, to consider the nomination of Wilma A. 
           Lewis, of the District of Columbia, to be Inspector 
           General, Department of the Interior; to be followed by 
           a closed briefing on international aspects of petroleum 
           supply.
                                                    S-407, Capitol
      [[Page E490]] 10:00 a.m.
       Appropriations
       Transportation Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the National Transportation Safety Board.
                                                            SD-192
       Judiciary
         To hold hearings on S. 227, to provide an exclusive right 
           to perform sound recordings publicly by means of 
           digital transmissions.
                                                            SD-226
     2:00 p.m.
       Appropriations
       Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education 
           Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the Department of Health and Human 
           Services.
                                                            SD-138
       Appropriations
       Treasury, Postal Service, General Government Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the United States Secret Service, Federal 
           Law Enforcement Training Center, and the Financial 
           Crimes Enforcement Network, Department of the Treasury.
                                                            SD-192
     2:30 p.m.
       Commerce, Science, and Transportation
       Aviation Subcommittee
         To hold hearings to examine activities of the Denver 
           International Airport.
                                                            SR-253

                                MARCH 10
     9:30 a.m.
       Appropriations
       VA, HUD, and Independent Agencies Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the National Science Foundation, and the 
           Office of Science and Technology Policy.
                                                            SD-138
       Joint Economic
         To hold hearings to examine the employment-unemployment 
           situation for February.
                                                            SD-562

                                MARCH 13
     9:30 a.m.
       Finance
         To hold hearings on the consumer price index.
                                                            SD-215

                                MARCH 14
     9:00 a.m.
       Judiciary
         To hold hearings to examine proposals to reduce illegal 
           immigration and to control financial costs to 
           taxpayers.
                                                            SD-226
     9:30 a.m.
       Agriculture, Nutrition, and Forestry
         To resume hearings on proposed legislation to strengthen 
           and improve United States agricultural programs, 
           focusing on wetlands and farm policy.
                                                            SR-332
       Appropriations
       Defense Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the Department of Defense.
                                                            SD-138
       Appropriations
       Energy and Water Development Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the Department of Energy Office of Energy 
           Research.
                                                            SD-192

                                MARCH 15
     9:30 a.m.
       Appropriations
       Interior Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the Smithsonian Institution.
                                                            SD-116
       Energy and Natural Resources
         Business meeting, to consider pending calendar business.
                                                            SD-366
     10:00 a.m.
       Appropriations
       Agriculture, Rural Development, and Related Agencies 
           Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for farm and foreign agriculture services of 
           the Department of Agriculture.
                                                            SD-138
       Appropriations
       Commerce, Justice, State, and Judiciary Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the Department of Justice.
                                              Room to be announced
     2:00 p.m.
       Appropriations
       Energy and Water Development Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the Bonneville Power Administration.
                                                            SD-192

                                MARCH 16
     9:30 a.m.
       Agriculture, Nutrition, and Forestry
         To resume hearings on proposed legislation to strengthen 
           and improve United States agricultural programs, 
           focusing on taxpayers' stake in Federal farm policy.
                                                            SR-332
     10:00 a.m.
       Appropriations
       Commerce, Justice, State, and Judiciary Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the Federal Bureau of Investigation and 
           Drug Enforcement Agency, both of the Department of 
           Justice.
                                                    S-146, Capitol
       Appropriations
       Transportation Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the Federal Highway Administration, 
           Department of Transportation.
                                                            SD-192
     2:00 p.m.
       Appropriations
       Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education 
           Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the Department of Education.
                                                            SD-192

                                MARCH 22
     9:30 a.m.
       Appropriations
       Interior Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the United States Fish and Wildlife 
           Service, Department of the Interior.
                                                            SD-192
     10:00 a.m.
       Appropriations
       Agriculture, Rural Development, and Related Agencies 
           Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the Natural Resources Conservation 
           Service, Department of Agriculture.
                                                            SD-138

                                MARCH 23
     10:00 a.m.
       Appropriations
       Transportation Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the Federal Railroad Administration, 
           Department of Transportation, and the National 
           Passenger Railroad Corporation (Amtrak).
                                                            SD-192
     2:00 p.m.
       Appropriations
       Treasury, Postal Service, General Government Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and 
           Firearms and the United States Customs Service, 
           Department of the Treasury.
                                                            SD-192
     3:00 p.m.
       Appropriations
       Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education 
           Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the National Institutes of Health, 
           Department of Health and Human Services.
                                                            SD-138

                                MARCH 24
     9:30 a.m.
       Appropriations
       VA, HUD, and Independent Agencies Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the Department of Housing and Urban 
           Development.
                                                            SD-138

                                MARCH 27
     2:00 p.m.
       Appropriations
       Treasury, Postal Service, General Government Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the Executive Office of the President, 
           and the General Services Administration.
                                                            SD-138

                                MARCH 28
     9:30 a.m.
       Appropriations
       Interior Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the Bureau of Land Management, Department 
           of the Interior.
                                                            SD-116

                                MARCH 29
     10:00 a.m.
       Appropriations
       Agriculture, Rural Development, and Related Agencies 
           Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the Food Safety and Inspection Service, 
           Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service, 
           Agricultural Marketing Service, and the Grain 
           Inspection, Packers and Stockyards Administration, all 
           of the Department of Agriculture.
                                                            SD-138
        [[Page E491]] Appropriations
       Commerce, Justice, State, and Judiciary Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the Judiciary, Administrative Office of 
           the Courts, and the Judicial Conference.
                                                    S-146, Capitol

                                MARCH 30
     9:30 a.m.
       Veterans' Affairs
         To hold joint hearings with the House Committee on 
           Veterans Affairs to review the legislative 
           recommendations of AMVETS, American Ex-Prisoners of 
           War, Vietnam Veterans of America, Blinded Veterans 
           Association, and the Military Order of the Purple 
           Heart.
                                               345 Cannon Building
     10:00 a.m.
       Appropriations
       Transportation Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the Federal Aviation Administration, 
           Department of Transportation.
                                                            SD-192

                                MARCH 31
     9:30 a.m.
       Agriculture, Nutrition, and Forestry
         To resume hearings on proposed legislation to strengthen 
           and improve United States agricultural programs, 
           focusing on agricultural credit.
                                                            SR-332
       Appropriations
       VA, HUD, and Independent Agencies Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the Department of Veterans Affairs, the 
           Court of Veteran's Appeals, and Veterans Affairs 
           Service Organizations.
                                                            SD-138

                                APRIL 3
     2:00 p.m.
       Appropriations
       Treasury, Postal Service, General Government Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the Internal Revenue Service, Department 
           of the Treasury, and the Office of Personnel 
           Management.
                                                            SD-138

                                APRIL 4
     9:30 a.m.
       Agriculture, Nutrition, and Forestry
         To resume hearings on proposed legislation to strengthen 
           and improve United States agricultural programs, 
           focusing on market effects of Federal farm policy.
                                                            SR-332
       Appropriations
       Interior Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the National Park Service, Department of 
           the Interior.
                                                            SD-138

                                APRIL 5
     9:30 a.m.
       Appropriations
       VA, HUD, and Independent Agencies Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the National Aeronautics and Space 
           Administration.
                                                            SD-192
     10:00 a.m.
       Appropriations
       Agriculture, Rural Development, and Related Agencies 
           Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the Agricultural Research Service, 
           Cooperative State Research, Education, and Extension 
           Service, Economic Research Service, and the National 
           Agricultural Statistics Service, all of the Department 
           of Agriculture.
                                                            SD-138
       Appropriations
       Commerce, Justice, State, and Judiciary Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the Immigration and Naturalization 
           Service, and the Bureau of Prisons, both of the 
           Department of Justice.
                                                    S-146, Capitol

                                APRIL 6
     9:30 a.m.
       Appropriations
       VA, HUD, and Independent Agencies Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the Federal Emergency Management Agency.
                                                            SD-138
     2:00 p.m.
       Appropriations
       Treasury, Postal Service, General Government Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the Department of the Treasury and the 
           Office of Management and Budget.
                                                            SD-116

                                APRIL 26
     9:30 a.m.
       Appropriations
       Interior Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for energy conservation.
                                                            SD-116
     10:00 a.m.
       Appropriations
       Agriculture, Rural Development, and Related Agencies 
           Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the Food and Consumer Service, Department 
           of Agriculture.
                                                            SD-138
       Appropriations
       Commerce, Justice, State, and Judiciary Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the Legal Services Corporation.
                                                    S-146, Capitol
     11:00 a.m.
       Appropriations
       Interior Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for fossil energy, clean coal technology, 
           Strategic Petroleum Reserve, and the Naval Petroleum 
           Reserve.
                                                            SD-116

                                APRIL 27
     10:00 a.m.
       Appropriations
       Transportation Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the Federal Transit Administration, 
           Department of Transportation.
                                                            SD-192

                                 MAY 2
     9:30 a.m.
       Appropriations
       Interior Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the Forest Service of the Department of 
           Agriculture.
                                                            SD-138

                                 MAY 3
     9:30 a.m.
       Appropriations
       VA, HUD, and Independent Agencies Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the Environmental Protection Agency, the 
           Council on Environmental Quality, and the Agency for 
           Toxic Substances and Disease Registry.
                                                            SD-192
     10:00 a.m.
       Appropriations
       Agriculture, Rural Development, and Related Agencies 
           Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the Department of Agriculture.
                                                            SD-138

                                 MAY 4
     10:00 a.m.
       Appropriations
       Transportation Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the United States Coast Guard, Department 
           of Transportation.
                                                            SD-192

                                 MAY 5
     9:30 a.m.
       Appropriations
       VA, HUD, and Independent Agencies Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for Environmental Protection Agency science 
           programs.
                                                            SD-138

                                 MAY 11
     10:00 a.m.
       Appropriations
       Interior Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the Bureau of Indian Affairs, Department 
           of the Interior.
                                                            SD-116
     1:00 p.m.
       Appropriations
       Interior Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the Indian Health Service, Department of 
           Health and Human Services.
                                                            SD-116

                                 MAY 17
     9:30 a.m.
       Appropriations
       Interior Subcommittee
         To hold hearings on proposed budget estimates for fiscal 
           year 1996 for the Department of the Interior.
                                                            SD-192
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