[Senate Hearing 119-512]
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                                                        S. Hrg. 119-512

                           THE BLUE ECONOMY:
 ADVANCING AMERICAN FISHERIES, MARITIME STRENGTH, AND COASTAL ECONOMIES

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                                HEARING

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                SUBCOMMITTEE ON COAST GUARD, MARITIME, 
                             AND FISHERIES

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                         COMMITTEE ON COMMERCE,
                      SCIENCE, AND TRANSPORTATION
                          UNITED STATES SENATE

                    ONE HUNDRED NINETEENTH CONGRESS

                             SECOND SESSION 

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                              JUNE 2, 2026

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       SENATE COMMITTEE ON COMMERCE, SCIENCE, AND TRANSPORTATION

                    ONE HUNDRED NINETEENTH CONGRESS

                             SECOND SESSION

                       TED CRUZ, Texas, Chairman
JOHN THUNE, South Dakota             MARIA CANTWELL, Washington, 
ROGER WICKER, Mississippi                Ranking
DEB FISCHER, Nebraska                AMY KLOBUCHAR, Minnesota
JERRY MORAN, Kansas                  BRIAN SCHATZ, Hawaii
DAN SULLIVAN, Alaska                 EDWARD MARKEY, Massachusetts
MARSHA BLACKBURN, Tennessee          GARY PETERS, Michigan
TODD YOUNG, Indiana                  TAMMY BALDWIN, Wisconsin
TED BUDD, North Carolina             TAMMY DUCKWORTH, Illinois
ERIC SCHMITT, Missouri               JACKY ROSEN, Nevada
JOHN CURTIS, Utah                    BEN RAY LUJAN, New Mexico
BERNIE MORENO, Ohio                  JOHN HICKENLOOPER, Colorado
TIM SHEEHY, Montana                  JOHN FETTERMAN, Pennsylvania
SHELLEY MOORE CAPITO, West Virginia  ANDY KIM, New Jersey
CYNTHIA LUMMIS, Wyoming              LISA BLUNT ROCHESTER, Delaware
                 Brad Grantz, Republican Staff Director
           Nicole Christus, Republican Deputy Staff Director
                   Lila Harper Helms, Staff Director
                 Melissa Porter, Deputy Staff Director
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          SUBCOMMITTEE ON COAST GUARD, MARITIME, AND FISHERIES

DAN SULLIVAN, Alaska, Chairman       LISA BLUNT ROCHESTER, Delaware, 
ROGER WICKER, Mississippi                Ranking
JOHN CURTIS, Utah                    BRIAN SCHATZ, Hawaii
BERNIE MORENO, Ohio                  GARY PETERS, Michigan
TIM SHEEHY, Montana                  TAMMY BALDWIN, Wisconsin












































                            C O N T E N T S

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Hearing held on June 2, 2026.....................................     1
Statement of Senator Sullivan....................................     1
Statement of Senator Blunt Rochester.............................     3
Statement of Senator Wicker......................................     5
Statement of Senator Cantwell....................................    30
    Prepared statement...........................................    31

                               Witnesses

Tommy Sheridan, Director, Alaska Blue Economy Center (ABEC), 
  University of Alaska Fairbanks (UAF)...........................     5
    Prepared statement...........................................     7
Jeremy Woodrow, Executive Director, Alaska Seafood Marketing 
  Institute......................................................    12
    Prepared statement...........................................    13
Nathan Wardwell, Managing Partner, JOA Surveys LLC...............    16
    Prepared statement...........................................    18
Clayton Heil, Vice President, Global Government Relations, 
  Crowley........................................................    19
    Prepared statement...........................................    21

                                Appendix

Response to written questions submitted to Tommy Sheridan by:
    Hon. Roger Wicker............................................    41
    Hon. Lisa Blunt Rochester....................................    43
Response to written questions submitted to Nathan Wardwell by:
    Hon. Lisa Blunt Rochester....................................    45
Response to written questions submitted to Clay Heil by:
    Hon. Lisa Blunt Rochester....................................    46

 
                      THE BLUE ECONOMY: ADVANCING 
                      AMERICAN FISHERIES, MARITIME 
                    STRENGTH, AND COASTAL ECONOMIES 

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                         TUESDAY, JUNE 2, 2026

                               U.S. Senate,
        Subcommittee on Coast Guard, Maritime, and 
                                         Fisheries,
        Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation,
                                                    Washington, DC.
    The Subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 10:08 p.m., in 
room SR-253, Russell Senate Office Building, Hon. Dan Sullivan, 
Chairman of the Subcommittee, presiding.
    Present: Senators Sullivan [presiding], Wicker, Moreno, 
Sheehy, Blunt Rochester, and Cantwell.

            OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. DAN SULLIVAN, 
                    U.S. SENATOR FROM ALASKA

    Senator Sullivan. Good morning. I want to welcome our 
distinguished witnesses. Apologize for my tardiness, but I 
think at least three of you understand. I just got in from 
Alaska last night, and you know what that's like. So welcome, 
especially to the Alaskans.
    And this is a subcommittee hearing that examines the 
importance of America's blue economy and the opportunities it 
presents for economic growth, innovation, job creation, and 
national security. The blue economy encompasses the industries, 
activities, and of course, the communities that rely on our 
oceans, coasts, Great Lakes to create economic opportunities, 
support jobs, strengthen national security, and sustain coastal 
communities, including the American fishermen.
    The blue economy is also central to America's economic 
strength. In 2022, It generated more than $470 billion in goods 
and services and supported 2.4 million jobs. It is one of the 
fastest growing sectors in America, in our economy, and indeed 
the world, encompassing commercial fisheries and seafood, sport 
fisheries, subsistence fisheries, maritime transportation, 
ports, tourism and recreation, and much more.
    For the United States, and especially for coastal states 
like my state, the great state of Alaska, these industries and 
community are not optional. They are essential. I always do a 
little bit of bragging about the great state of Alaska here, 
but when we talk about coastline, we have more coastline than 
the rest of the country combined. I have a colleague from 
Minnesota here who I respect a lot. She talks about her State 
having 10,000 lakes. My state has 3 million lakes.
    America is a maritime Nation. Our economic success, food 
security, supply chains, and national defense depend on safe, 
healthy, and productive oceans. This hearing comes at a 
critical time as our Nation races to strengthen our maritime 
industries and secure our place in the global blue economy. But 
so are other countries.
    The Federal Government is making significant investments 
and taking important steps to ensure America remains 
competitive and our coastal communities continue to thrive. 
Seafood, and of course our fishermen and coastal communities, 
remains one of the pillars of the blue economy.
    Alaska is the superpower of seafood, I like to say, 
producing more than 60 percent--harvesting more than 60 percent 
of all commercial sport and subsistence seafood in America and 
providing roughly 10 billion meals of healthy protein--wild 
Alaskan fish--each year. Our fisheries support thousands of 
jobs, sustain coastal communities, and help feed both our 
Nation and the world.
    President Trump's executive order on restoring American 
seafood competitiveness recognizes an important reality: 
seafood competitiveness is economic security and even national 
security. At the same time, Illegal, Unreported, and 
Unregulated fishing remains a major threat not just to global 
fish stocks and fair competition, but to the economic and 
national security of the United States.
    That is why my bipartisan Fighting Foreign Illegal Seafood 
Harvests, or the FISH Act, which strengthens enforcement, 
improves international coordination, and targets foreign bad 
actors, particularly China, is so important to stop this 
illegal fishing, what Senator Whitehouse calls pirate fishing. 
We passed that in the Senate recently, and I believe it's going 
to be passed in the House soon. That will be the most 
comprehensive IUU fish legislation in the history of the 
country.
    This builds on the bills Senator Whitehouse and I passed 
the Save Our Seas Act, the Save Our Seas 2.0 Act, which were 
the most comprehensive ocean cleanup legislation in American 
history. And right now in this committee, we are working on my 
comprehensive bycatch bill that we introduced last year. We are 
hoping to mark that up. That will be the most comprehensive 
bycatch legislation in American history. Healthy oceans are 
both an environmental priority and an economic necessity, and a 
national security issue. Tourism, charter fishing, wildlife 
viewing, and countless small businesses depend on sustainable 
fisheries and healthy marine ecosystems.
    Alaska is also seeing exciting innovation through our 
growing mariculture industry, where kelp and shellfish growers 
are creating new opportunities and jobs in coastal communities. 
Science and data collection are foundational to the long-term 
success of the American blue economy. Fishery surveys and stock 
assessments support sustainable fisheries management, and that 
is NOAA's key mission. And this committee reminds them of that 
very regularly.
    Likewise, hydrographic services, including coastal mapping, 
charting, and biometric surveys, are essential for safe 
navigation, commerce, and maritime operations across every 
sector of the American blue economy. Advancing our blue economy 
also requires strengthening America's maritime transportation 
network. Ports, marine highways, vessels, terminals, and 
logistics systems are essential to moving goods, supporting 
coastal states, maintaining resilient supply chains while 
enhancing our national security.
    That is why the administration's Maritime Action Plan is so 
important. Strengthening America's maritime transportation will 
require long-term investment, workforce development, and strong 
public-private partnerships that improve port capacity, modern 
infrastructure, support domestic vessel operators, and ensure 
reliable transportation networks for coastal communities within 
and across states.
    Tourism is another driver of the American blue economy. 
Visitors bring significant revenue directly to our local 
communities, making it important that America remains 
competitive as a global destination. That is why I introduced 
the VISIT USA Act to fully fund Brand USA, the public-private 
partnership responsible for promoting the United States as an 
international travel destination.
    Ultimately, this all comes back to people. The blue economy 
supports millions of Americans; fishermen, processors, 
mariners, sport fishermen, welders, scientists, engineers, 
military personnel, charter operators, tourism workers, and 
small business owners across the United States. Yet workforce 
shortages remain one of the great challenges across nearly 
every sector.
    We are serious about advancing the blue economy. We must 
invest in workforce development, training, apprenticeships, and 
educational opportunities to prepare the next generation of 
maritime professionals. The United States possesses some of the 
richest ocean resources in the world, the best-managed 
fisheries in the world. With the right investments, policies, 
and partnerships, we can unlock the full potential of America's 
blue economy while strengthening our economic and national 
security and supporting coastal communities for generations to 
come.
    I look forward to hearing from our witnesses today, many of 
whom traveled far from the great state of Alaska like I did 
last night, and to opportunities ahead, challenges they face, 
and the policies needed to ensure a strong and prosperous 
maritime future and blue economy for America.
    I now recognize the Ranking Member for any opening 
statement she may have. Thank you.

            STATEMENT OF HON. LISA BLUNT ROCHESTER, 
                   U.S. SENATOR FROM DELAWARE

    Senator Blunt Rochester. Thank you, Chairman Sullivan, and 
thank you so much to our witnesses for being here. We look 
forward to your testimony.
    Delaware may be small. You mentioned that you have millions 
of lakes, and our colleague from Minnesota has thousands of 
lakes. We have tens of lakes. We're small, but we're mighty. We 
are urban, suburban, rural, and coastal. And because of that, 
this conversation is particularly important to my state as well 
as our country, because coastal communities like the ones that 
call Delaware home rely on the maritime or blue economy.
    My home state sits on the Atlantic Ocean between the 
Chesapeake and Delaware Bays, putting us in a perfect location 
to drive innovation and opportunity in the blue economy, and we 
do. The University of Delaware, Delaware State University, and 
Delaware Technical Community College collaborate on 
groundbreaking maritime marine research, underwater robotics, 
and coastal infrastructure.
    Our growing aquaculture industry continues to create new 
jobs while providing healthy, sustainable sources of food. 
Thanks to funding from a Port Infrastructure Development 
Program grant, the Port of Wilmington is about to begin an 
historic expansion that will quadruple, quadruple its capacity. 
And millions of visitors head to The First State each year to 
enjoy our pristine beaches, bays, and coastline.
    All told, Delaware coastal economy supports over 100,000 
jobs, generates over $22 billion in economic output, and is 
growing over five times faster than the rest of our state. But 
this isn't unique to my state. The blue economy is a huge 
driver of economic growth and job creation across the United 
States. NOAA estimates that the marine--the marine economy 
contributes over $500 billion in GDP annually.
    Unfortunately, the administration has stifled and in some 
cases refused to provide our coastal communities with the 
support they need to thrive. Proposed NOAA budget cuts of over 
$1 billion which will undercut the agency's critical mission to 
support sustainable fisheries and give coastal communities the 
tools they need to thrive. The administration terminated or 
withdrew roughly $672 million in port infrastructure 
development grants meant to support the offshore wind industry, 
delaying critical investments in my state and the expansion of 
cheap and--cheap and sustainable energy at a time when 
Americans need it most.
    And they pushed an unprecedented Jones Act waiver that will 
further undermine American shipping competitiveness while doing 
little to address the inflation and energy crisis Americans are 
experiencing. And while this--and while this administration has 
correctly identified our vulnerability to Chinese-made port 
equipment, they imposed tariffs without any plan to support 
domestic industries and bring critical manufacturing jobs home.
    So while I commend the administration for trying to set a 
vision to maintain economic competitiveness and ensure national 
security, the actions that I have seen miss the mark for our 
country and our needs right now. We can all agree we need to 
invest in and grow our maritime industrial base. And what I'm 
hoping to get out of today's hearing is a bipartisan path 
forward to a better--to better support our coastal communities 
and improve our national and economic security. And I look 
forward to the conversation, and I yield back.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you, Senator Blunt Rochester. And 
speaking of national economic and national security, we have 
the Chairman of the Armed Services Committee here. I'm very 
honored. Mr. Chairman, would you like to say a few words? Also 
the Senator from Mississippi knows a little bit about the blue 
economy.

                STATEMENT OF HON. ROGER WICKER, 
                 U.S. SENATOR FROM MISSISSIPPI

    Senator Wicker. Well, it's hard to tell Dan Sullivan no. I 
had declined to make a statement, but I do think now I'll read 
a 5-minute statement in its entirety.
    [Laughter.]
    Senator Wicker. No, let me just say, indeed, the domestic 
maritime industry has everything to do with national security, 
as I hope our distinguished panelists will point out in some of 
their testimony. I have a few points to make. I may try to do 
those during questions, but I do appreciate the comments of the 
distinguished Chair and the distinguished Ranking Member, and I 
yield.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you. Well, we have some 
distinguished witnesses, and I'd like to introduce them. Mr. 
Tommy Sheridan, he's the Director of the Alaska Blue Economy 
Center at the University of Alaska Fairbanks. Mr. Sheridan has 
lived in Alaska for over two decades, focusing on the 
commercial fishing industry and other elements of the blue 
economy. As the Director, Mr. Sheridan focuses on growing the 
Alaska blue economy through balancing stewardship and 
sustainable use of our marine resources, including growing 
workforce development and mariculture initiatives across the 
state.
    Next, we have Mr. Jeremy Woodrow, Executive Director of the 
Alaska Seafood Marketing Institute. Mr. Woodrow is a born and 
raised Alaskan whose family has commercially fished in 
Southeast Alaska for over five decades. He has practiced 
marketing and public relations in the fields of seafood, State 
and local government throughout Alaska since 2002.
    We also have Mr. Nathan Wardwell, Managing Partner of JOA 
Surveys. Mr. Wardwell has more than 20 years of experience 
measuring water levels and vertical datums. He brings extensive 
knowledge and expertise in coastal surveying, an essential part 
of maintaining our ability to access and navigate our coasts 
and waterways safely.
    And finally, we have Mr. Clayton Heil, Vice President of 
Global Government Relations at Crowley Maritime Corporation. 
Mr. Heil leads the company's engagement with Federal, State, 
and local and international government stakeholders on policy 
and regulatory matters affecting its transportation, logistics, 
and energy in maritime operations.
    Welcome again to our witnesses. You will each have five 
minutes to deliver an oral statement. A longer written 
statement will be included in the record, and we will begin 
from left to right here, beginning with you, Mr. Sheridan. You 
have the floor.

             STATEMENT OF TOMMY SHERIDAN, DIRECTOR,

               ALASKA BLUE ECONOMY CENTER (ABEC),

              UNIVERSITY OF ALASKA FAIRBANKS (UAF)

    Mr. Sheridan. Thank you, Chairman Sullivan, Ranking Member 
Blunt Rochester, and distinguished members of the Committee. 
Thank you truly for this opportunity. It's an honor to be with 
you here today.
    My name is Tommy Sheridan, and I do serve as the Director 
for the Alaska Blue Economy Center at the University of Alaska 
Fairbanks. However, the testimony is provided in my personal 
capacity as a parent to two Alaskan schoolchildren and as a 
resident of coastal Alaskan communities these past 24 years.
    Several years ago, deep in the Alaskan bush, I was attacked 
by a brown bear. When a bear charges, instinct screams at you 
to run, but if you run, you could die. Survival depends on 
preparation, tools, and the grit to stand your ground. I 
survived the attack and it fundamentally changed how I look at 
resilience.
    Today, our coastal towns face their own existential crisis. 
We are losing young families to economic stagnation and rising 
costs. Right now, the instinct for the next generation is to do 
what makes sense in a panic: turn around and leave. But when 
families leave coastal Alaska, we don't just lose a line on a 
census report. We lose a classroom. We lose a volunteer 
firefighter. We lose our future.
    For over 20 years, I've worked in fisheries management and 
workforce development in Alaska. My wife and I are raising our 
kids in coastal Alaska. This isn't an abstract policy debate 
for us, it's survival. To stop the flight, we must change the 
horizon. We must imagine an Alaska where science, fisheries, 
workforce development, and innovation work together so the next 
generation can build thriving futures in coastal communities.
    For decades, we've viewed Alaska's blue economy largely 
through resource extraction. It is our backbone. But the future 
is a knowledge-based economy driven by data, technology, and 
collaboration. Our crisis isn't just tied to an abundance of 
fish. It is a gap in connectivity. We have incredible 
traditional industries alongside emerging frontiers like 
mariculture and marine technology. To bridge them, I believe 
that we must start at the very beginning with K through 12 
education.
    A quiet revolution is already happening in Alaska. Tribal 
partners, schools, and community and industry leaders are 
joining forces. Programs like Science Olympiad, Teaching 
Through Technology, and Prince William Sound College prove that 
when you give a K through 12 student a drone or a data set, 
they don't just learn STEM, they see a career. They realize 
that marine science happens on the boats and docks right 
outside their front door. When we invest in local education, we 
actively build the world we need to see.
    But a bridge cannot stand without pillars. Our fisheries 
management system relies on world-class data. To keep Alaska 
leading, we must solidify partnerships between NOAA, 
universities, and tribal organizations. Senator Sullivan, your 
focus on maritime infrastructure has laid the foundation, and 
now we must build the superstructure.
    I urge the Subcommittee to support four pillars. First, 
investment in K through 12 STEM and local workforce 
development. Second, funding for fishery science and NOAA 
partnerships. Third, expanded community-based education and 
applied research. Fourth, innovation to ensure our communities 
remain economically unshakeable.
    You don't survive a crisis by running away. You survive by 
equipping yourself to face it head-on. We do not need to 
abandon our heritage to embrace the future. We need to arm our 
youth with the tools to build it. So let us choose to invest 
and let us finalize a reality where we no longer have to just 
imagine an Alaska where science, fisheries, workforce 
development, and innovation work together so the next 
generation can build thriving futures in coastal communities. 
Thank you. And I welcome your questions.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Sheridan follows:]

  Prepared Statement of Tommy Sheridan, Director, Alaska Blue Economy 
          Center (ABEC), University of Alaska Fairbanks (UAF)
    Chairman Sullivan, Ranking Member Blunt Rochester, and 
distinguished Members of the Committee, thank you for the opportunity 
to participate in the Subcommittee on Coast Guard, Maritime, and 
Fisheries Hearing on ``The Blue Economy: Advancing American Fisheries, 
Maritime Industry, and Coastal Economies.'' It is truly an honor to 
provide you with this written testimony.
    My name is Tommy Sheridan, and I serve as the Director for the 
Alaska Blue Economy Center (ABEC) at the University of Alaska Fairbanks 
(UAF). ABEC is housed administratively in the university's College of 
Fisheries and Ocean Sciences, or CFOS, where our world-class faculty 
educates future leaders in fisheries and marine science, while 
addressing pressing issues in aquatic ecosystems from the Arctic to 
Antarctica. ABEC's role is to connect capacities throughout the 
University of Alaska, including CFOS, with problems, needs, and 
opportunities relating to the state's blue economy. I come to you today 
with over two decades of experience living and working throughout and 
alongside Alaska's blue economy, with experience as a hatchery manager 
in the state's private nonprofit salmon fishery enhancement program, as 
a fishery manager for the State of Alaska Department of Fish and Game, 
in addition to roles in the seafood processing sector, most recently 
serving in a variety of capacities in academia. This written testimony 
and my accompanying oral comments are provided to you through my 
personal capacity as a private citizen, as a parent to two Alaskan 
schoolchildren, and as a resident of coastal Alaskan communities for 
the past 24 years.
Introduction
    Alaska's blue economy is as significant as the state is large. 
Alaska is about one-fifth the size of the contiguous United States, and 
if you overlaid a map of Alaska onto the ``Lower 48,'' it would stretch 
from the West Coast to the East Coast. Alaska's coastline is equally 
immense and complex--it is longer than the coastlines of all other 49 
U.S. states combined. The State of Alaska holds an abundant supply of 
natural resources including, among others, energy, mineral, timber, and 
seafood, presenting the country with unique opportunities for economic 
development and national security for generations to come.
    Alaska is the fifth largest oil producing state in the country, and 
Alaskan natural gas reserves account for over 15 percent of the total 
proven gas available in the United States. Alaska holds over 56 percent 
of the total U.S. marine energy potential, and is home to significant 
hydroelectric and geothermal energy sources. Alaska is also a 
recognized global leader in microgrid technology, hosting an estimated 
10 percent of all microgrids globally, and 50 percent of all microgrids 
in the United States. Alaskan oil and gas production and associated 
activities are a linchpin for the state's blue economy, supporting over 
45,000 direct, indirect, and induced jobs statewide.
    Alaska's seafood industry continues to be one of Alaska's most 
important economic drivers, contributing about 7 percent to Alaska's 
gross domestic product (GDP), generating over $5 billion in economic 
activity, and supporting more than 41,800 jobs. Alaskan seafood 
harvests account for roughly 63 percent of total U.S. seafood landings, 
producing more wild-caught seafood than all other states combined. For 
communities such as Cordova, where I've lived for 16 years, this 
economic activity is the lifeblood of the community, with associated 
taxes paying for critical services such as schools, harbors, and roads.
    Alaska's tourism industry is considered a renewable natural 
resource and is a major contributor to Alaska's blue economy, 
generating $5.6 billion in total economic impact in recent years, and 
supporting 48,000 jobs in Alaska. With recent and pending 
infrastructure investments in Whittier, Seward, Nome, and elsewhere, 
expectations are for future growth. Travelers are increasingly 
prioritizing nature, safety, open landscapes, and immersive outdoor 
experiences. Alaska's glaciers, fjords, wildlife, national parks, 
Indigenous cultural experiences, and increases in luxury expedition 
offerings are luring more visitors to Alaska, with a record 2.7 million 
out-of-state visitors traveling to Alaska between May and September 
2025. Alaskan communities are collaborating with visitor industry 
leaders to develop innovative approaches, such as regenerative tourism, 
to ensure that this growth maximizes benefits to the state while 
preserving its inherent characteristics and value.
    Last, but not least, Alaska's construction industry is a key part 
of the state's blue economy, making up one of the largest sectors in 
the state, employing over 20,000 people, and accounting for over $6.5 
billion in economic output annually. Federal spending acts as a major 
catalyst for Alaska's construction industry, and with current and 
projected construction projects, including multi-billion dollar 
developments on the North Slope, Federal port and shipyard upgrades, 
and massive transportation and pipeline expansions, the Alaska 
Department of Labor and Workforce Development anticipates at least 
17,260 new skilled trade construction workers will be needed in Alaska 
by 2028.
    These industries, and others such as healthcare, mining, and state 
and local government, are integral components to Alaska's blue economy. 
However, Alaska's greatest asset is its people-Alaskans embody the 
grit, resilience, and independent spirit necessary to thrive in this 
Last Frontier, making them the true foundation for the state. And, 
unfortunately, that foundation is cracking.
Alaska's workforce challenge
    Despite Alaska's geographic prowess and abundant resources, the 
state's population has been among the country's smallest since 
statehood in 1959. With a population of approximately 738,000 residents 
(in 2025), Alaska is the third-least populous state in the U.S., and 
the most sparsely populated state in the country. Of relevance to blue 
economy development, contributing factors to the state's workforce 
challenge include a shrinking working-age demographic, which has 
declined by over 34,000 people over the past decade due to an aging 
population, declining birth rates, and net migration (the number of 
people who move to Alaska in a given year, minus the number who leave). 
According to the Alaska Department of Labor and Workforce Development, 
the prime working age of Alaskans (aged 18 to 64) reached its lowest 
level (449,171 people in 2024) since 2008, and Alaska's net migration 
has been negative for 13 consecutive years. Alaska's K-12 student 
enrollment has also declined by more than 10,000 students since 2017 
from a then-total of just over 130,000 students, further reducing the 
potential for a ``homegrown'' workforce, and all the benefits this 
provides.
    In the absence of a local Alaskan workforce, employers must 
increasingly turn to nonresident workers. According to the most recent 
data available, the number of out-of-state workers has continued to 
rise in recent years, is at its highest level in over 30 years, and is 
nearing an all-time high. According to the Alaska Department of Labor 
and Workforce Development, almost 23 percent of non-federal jobs in 
Alaska were held by non-Alaskans who earned approximately $3.8 billion 
in 2024, or, in other words, about 17 percent of every dollar earned 
from a non-federal job is leaving the state. Among the largest blue 
economy industries in the state, the seafood industry saw the highest 
percentage of non-resident workers at 81.5 percent of its workforce, 
which was the second highest percentage on record for the industry. The 
Alaskan oil and gas industry employed 40.5 percent nonresident workers, 
in a sector that pays some of the highest average wages in the state. A 
variety of visitor-related industries (including restaurants, hotels, 
air transportation, and tour operators) hired a nonresident workforce 
that comprised 35.2 percent of its total employment in 2024, and the 
Alaskan construction sector workforce was 23.4 percent nonresident that 
same year.
    I believe, and evidence suggests, that an expanded Alaskan-grown 
workforce would be a critical economic engine for the state, offering 
benefits ranging from reduced employee turnover to long-term community 
stability. Local Alaskan workers are more likely to remain in the state 
long-term relative to nonresident workers, thereby reducing high 
recruitment costs associated with out-of-state hires common to remote 
coastal and seasonal industries, such as seafood processing and 
healthcare. Further, wages earned by Alaskan employees are spent 
locally, thereby supporting small businesses in the communities where 
they live. Alaskan workers also possess unique understandings of local 
climate, geography, and cultural nuances, which are essential for 
resource development activities, tourism, and other rural services. 
Ultimately, by providing rewarding career paths where they live, it is 
hoped that an increased focus on retaining ``homegrown talent'' can be 
a boon for Alaska's blue economy, and its communities.
Alaskan solutions
    To stop the flight of young Alaskan families leaving our state, we 
must change the horizon. We must imagine an Alaska where science, 
fisheries, workforce development, and innovation work together so the 
next generation can build thriving futures in coastal communities.
    In their 2021 book on developing a workforce for the New Blue 
Economy, Liesl Hotaling, Rick Spinrad, and numerous contributing 
authors, provide insights on how the U.S. can build off of traditional 
blue economy industries, such as oil and gas, shipping, fishing, and 
tourism, to a reenvisioned economy centered on data, information, and 
knowledge. The authors argue that this transition will require 
innovative approaches to technology, skills acquisition, and talent 
development. I argue that Alaska's workforce struggles and abundance of 
opportunities make it the ideal testing ground for these innovations, 
and highlight several here that are well underway in the state.
    The authors assert that K-12 STEM (science, technology, 
engineering, math) education must move away from a traditional approach 
akin to a history course, where students memorize dates and 
accomplishments, to hands-on approaches where students learn 
practically, in collaborative learning environments, using technology-
based problem-solving. This approach is alive and well in Alaska, where 
community-based scientific organizations such as the Sitka Sound 
Science Center and Prince William Sound Science Center have bridged the 
gap between traditional research and the implicated communities, and 
have grown to include experiential learning opportunities for students 
both young and old (``K through grey''). These organizations work with 
and alongside traditional resource managers, university partners, and 
both in and outside of local school districts, oftentimes incorporating 
citizen science opportunities into their environmental education.
    The authors further recommend intentional inclusion of workforce 
awareness and workforce preparation into K-12 STEM programs, regardless 
of where they occur. At the University of Alaska Fairbanks, Alaska 
Science Olympiad, and Teaching Through Technology (T3) work with middle 
school and high school students across the state of Alaska, where 
students are exposed to skills training aligned with Alaskan industry 
needs and standards, through a variety of skills assessments, tailored 
curriculum, and badging or certification programs. In Cordova, students 
in these programs have worked with Alaska Blue Economy Center (ABEC) 
and Cordova Chamber of Commerce to connect these opportunities with 
local and regional stakeholders as they observed real-world career 
pathways and emerging industries that promise to transform Alaska's 
blue economy.
    Improving access to connectivity and equipment, and addressing 
diversity, was recommended as well, and I note the role that ANSEP 
(historically known as the Alaska Native Science and Engineering 
Program) has played throughout the state for over 30 years as a 
sequential education model rooted in Alaska Native Values. Upward Bound 
is a federally funded program designed to help Alaskan high school 
students from low-income backgrounds and potential first-generation 
college students succeed academically and prepare for higher education. 
These programs serve students across the state, with regional hubs 
facilitating college-prep curriculum delivery, hands-on STEM 
activities, and cultural enrichment.
    Hotaling and Spinrad highlight the need for engagement with and 
support of community colleges, vocational, and/or trade schools, as a 
prerequisite to workforce development for the New Blue Economy. In many 
cases, dual credit programs allow high school students to earn college 
credit while developing relevant and marketable skills, earning 
certificates and occupational endorsements along the way, with the 
potential of earning an Associate's degree simultaneous to their 
traditional high school diploma. These students are then adequately 
prepared for direct entry into the workforce, or can pursue additional 
education in traditional university programs, such as those available 
at UAF CFOS, albeit with a different skillset than is common among 
entry-level undergraduate students. Prince William Sound College in 
Valdez, Alaska, is a notable Alaskan example whereby local high school 
students can learn from renowned instructors in areas such as 
Construction Skills, Marine Services Technology, Millwright, Natural 
Resources Technician, Marine Natural Resources Technician, and Outdoor 
Leadership. Another notable, relevant, and highly innovative Alaskan 
program is the Applied Fisheries Program at the University of Alaska 
Southeast's Sitka Campus, where students are immersed in the exciting 
and emerging fields of aquaculture and mariculture through their highly 
regarded Alaska Aquaculture Semester.
    Were we to invest in and support our students in these ways, the 
benefits would be significant, and our industries and communities would 
be armed with a locally rooted workforce prepared to address the many 
other complex problems facing Alaska. If we are to build the state's 
blue economy, we must build an Alaska where science, fisheries, 
workforce development, and innovation work together so the next 
generation can build thriving futures in coastal communities.
Mariculture glidepath
    As Alaskans look to reenvision coastal economies, and potentially 
repurpose their skillsets and assets towards new industries, 
mariculture (marine aquaculture of kelp and shellfish) has received 
significant attention and investment in recent years. The Exxon Valdez 
Oil Spill Trustee Council invested more than $30 million in Alaskan 
mariculture-related projects and infrastructure in October 2021. The 
U.S. Economic Development Administration (EDA) awarded $49 million to 
the ``Alaska Mariculture Cluster'' under its Build Back Better Regional 
Challenge (BBBRC) program in 2022. That same year, the Alaska 
Legislature allocated $7 million to the University of Alaska to support 
mariculture research and development throughout the state. Finally, in 
2024, the National Science Foundation (NSF) Established Program to 
Stimulate Competitive Research (EPSCoR) commenced its $20 million 
``Interface of Change'' project in select communities in northern 
Southeast Alaska, Prince William Sound, and Lower Cook Inlet, to 
develop partnerships between researchers, Gulf of Alaska community 
members, Tribes, educators, and entrepreneurs. Through these 
connections, project participants have worked collaboratively to 
investigate the resilience of marine species that are critical to the 
subsistence way of life as well as developments in the mariculture 
economy in the Gulf of Alaska.
    Leveraging this momentum and these resources, and by following 
guidance laid out in the Alaska Mariculture Workforce Development Plan, 
the Alaska Blue Economy Center at UAF has partnered with Prince William 
Sound College (at the University of Alaska Anchorage) and the Applied 
Fisheries Program (at the University of Alaska Southeast) in developing 
an inspirational ``glidepath'' for mariculture-related workforce 
development in the state. Through these efforts, Alaskan middle school 
and high school students were introduced to mariculture through Science 
Olympiad and Teaching Through Technology, respectively, and were 
provided with opportunities for learning and potentially for direct 
entry into the state's developing mariculture industry, along with 
opportunities for postsecondary vocational-technical education and/or 
matriculation into baccalaureate programs. Although this ``glidepath'' 
was developed for the state's nascent mariculture industry, we believe 
that this approach can be modified and adopted for needs and 
opportunities in the state's oil and gas industry, traditional seafood 
industry, visitor industry, and construction industry, and elsewhere.
Collaboration is key (capacity building)
    Alaska's blue economy succeeds when we invest in people, 
particularly K-12 students, connecting science, education, workforce 
development, and sustainable coastal industries so future generations 
can survive and thrive. In Alaska, these investments have always 
involved external partners and partnerships, such as those with the 
Federal government and its agencies, both U.S. and international 
academic partners, and leaders from around the country and beyond, well 
before the phrase ``blue economy'' was first prominently introduced by 
Belgian economist Gunter Pauli in 1994. Internal collaboration in 
Alaska is equally essential for economic development in the state, as 
its vast geography and complex land ownership require diverse groups to 
work together. Partnerships between Alaska Native Corporations, 
municipalities, regional organizations, and state entities are vital to 
building resilient industries and communities.
    These same approaches have been implemented at ABEC, albeit on a 
smaller, and oftentimes more local scale. For example, in 2022, the 
City of Valdez partnered with ABEC to support the city's interests in 
mariculture development and the broader blue economy, with a goal of 
building capacity at ABEC, and helping to connect the City and its 
stakeholders with beneficial capacities at UAF. Located in Southcentral 
Alaska, Valdez is a seamlessly connected hub accessible by land, air, 
and sea. Perched along miles of the pristine, clean, and deep waters of 
Prince William Sound, Valdez enjoys easy access to Alaska, the Arctic, 
and the world. Its strategic location allows Port of Valdez to be a 
gateway to Alaska's Interior, the Arctic, the U.S. Pacific Northwest, 
and the Pacific Rim. With direct access to Alaska's road system, as a 
regular stop on the Alaska Marine Highway System, and as the southern 
terminus of the Trans Alaska Pipeline System, the Port of Valdez 
ensures unparalleled access to the state and world beyond. As I 
(Sheridan) am moving to Valdez in 2026, it is hoped that ABEC can be of 
greater service to Valdez and its interests, including those pertaining 
to port and harbor infrastructure development, and discussions 
surrounding potentially home-porting U.S. Coast Guard Fast Response 
Cutters, icebreakers, and joint interagency operations. Leaders across 
Alaska, including those in Valdez, celebrated the Senate's passage of 
the Fiscal Year 2026 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), which 
includes the Coast Guard Authorization Act of 2026, and are grateful to 
Senator Sullivan and this Committee's work on that legislation.
    Successful outcomes from this unique municipal-university 
relationship between ABEC and the City of Valdez include the Alaska 
Mariculture Cluster (AMC) being awarded $49 million through the 
Economic Development Administration's (EDA) Build Back Better Regional 
Challenge grant program, which benefited from instigation and support 
by the city, including a $6 million matching resource from the City in 
support of the AMC application. Further, ABEC catalyzed and supported 
of K-12 STEM programming in the local school district, including 
Science Olympiad and T3. ABEC has also worked closely with Prince 
William Sound College over the years on a variety of initiatives, 
especially mariculture.
    External relationships made possible through federally funded 
university initiatives have also been beneficial to ABEC's development, 
and hold promise for the broader blue economy in the state. For 
example, ABEC has benefitted from funding through the Alaska Regional 
Collaboration for Technology Innovation and Commercialization (ARCTIC) 
Program. ARCTIC is sponsored by the Department of the Navy, Office of 
Naval Research (ONR), and is housed at the Alaska Center for Energy and 
Power (ACEP) at UAF. The ARCTIC Program is a partnership designed to 
promote capacity building and cooperation between Alaska and the Arctic 
and Pacific regions through advancements in energy technology through 
resiliency research, and technology development and deployment. 
ARCTIC's work to explore and establish Community Innovation Hubs in 
communities like Cordova and Kotzebue holds promise as testbeds for 
concepts and technologies of likely benefit elsewhere in the state. 
Similarly, ABEC has worked with the RISE-UP Program, which is another 
ONR-funded project underway in Alaska as part of a tri-state initiative 
uniting Rhode Island, Alaska, and Hawai`i, connecting education, 
research, and industry to accelerate ideas into real-world defense and 
commercial impact. Both programs have a core mission of building 
capacity within the communities they serve, the likes of which bode 
well for blue economy development in Alaska.
    I also wish to illuminate the opportunity for ocean-based economic 
development in coastal states and communities through the support and 
development of increasingly successful ocean cluster models. The 
movement towards clusters is exemplified by organizations such as the 
Iceland Ocean Cluster, Maritime Blue in Seattle, the Oregon Ocean 
Cluster, TMA BlueTech in San Diego, the Rhode Island Ocean Tech Hub, 
along with new state efforts in Maine, Hawaii, and the Great Lakes. 
Academic-based development underway at schools such as Texas A&M 
University Galveston, the University of Southern Mississippi, and 
Oregon State University, are all good examples of public seed funding 
at the state level that is leading to systemic change and blue economy 
development.
    These efforts stem from increasing recognition that ocean 
industries are among the fastest growing economic opportunities 
globally. Organizations such as the World Bank and the European Union 
have projected the value of the global blue economy will exceed $3 
trillion by 2030. And in addition to growth in traditional industries 
such as seafood, shipping, and energy development, emerging sectors 
such as marine biotechnology, coastal resilience, mariculture, and 
innovations in boatbuilding represent massive development potential. 
The Ocean Regional Opportunity and Innovation (Ocean ROI) Act of 2025 
(S. Bill 1392) would provide the investment needed to develop the blue 
economy in Alaska, and elsewhere. Ocean ROA aspires to establish a 
Federal Blue Economy strategy, creates Ocean Innovation Clusters in 
each National Marine Fisheries (NMFS) region, would grant up to $10 
million per cluster through 2030, and requires coordination among the 
EDA, National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), and 
Sea Grant.
    Finally, I'll end with encouragement that we strive to develop 
Alaskan leaders, and the organizations they work for and through. In 
2008, the renowned American political scientists Ed Weber and Anne 
Khademian describe the role that collaborative capacity-builders (CCBs) 
play in fostering the transfer, receipt, and integration of knowledge 
across networks, which can build long-term collaborative problem-
solving capacity strong enough to address complex public, or wicked, 
problems, such as many that are facing Alaska today. Weber and 
Khademian define a CCB as someone who has been assigned a lead role in 
a network's problem-solving activities through the individual's legal 
authority, whose expertise is valued within the network, and who has a 
reputation as an honest broker. Although public managers are almost 
always involved with such networks, Weber and Khademian contend that 
CCBs do not always need to be public managers. In my opinion, any 
effort to identify and foster CCBs in Alaska's blue economy is 
essential to its development, and to the future of the state. An 
interdisciplinary PhD program is underway at UAF that aspires to 
develop such Alaskan leaders, drawing from pools of ``changemakers'' in 
a variety of fields. This program offers its students the opportunity 
to shape a dynamic curriculum that aligns with their unique goals and 
passions. This flexible and innovative program allows students to 
design a doctoral degree that spans multiple disciplines, going beyond 
the traditional offerings of the university, and I believe that such 
efforts can help to build and sustain Alaska's blue economy into the 
future.
    In closing, I encourage this subcommittee to support four pillars: 
first, investment in K-12 STEM and local workforce development; second, 
funding for fisheries science and NOAA partnerships; third, expanded 
community-based education and applied research; and fourth, innovation 
to ensure our communities remain economically unshakeable.
    So, let us choose to invest, and let us finalize a reality where we 
no longer have to just imagine an Alaska where science, fisheries, 
workforce development, and innovation work together so the next 
generation can build thriving futures in coastal communities.
    Chairman Sullivan, Ranking Member Blunt Rochester, and 
distinguished Members of the Committee and staff, thank you once again 
for your invitation to testify here today, and I look forward to 
answering any questions you may have.

    Senator Sullivan. Thank you, Mr. Sheridan. Mr. Woodrow.

STATEMENT OF JEREMY WOODROW, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, ALASKA SEAFOOD 
                      MARKETING INSTITUTE

    Mr. Woodrow. Thank you, Chairman Sullivan and Ranking 
Member Blunt Rochester and distinguished members of the 
Subcommittee. Appreciate the opportunity to testify with you 
today.
    My name is Jeremy Woodrow, and I serve as Executive 
Director for the Alaska Seafood Marketing Institute, also known 
as ASMI. ASMI is a public-private partnership between the state 
of Alaska and the seafood industry. Our mission is to increase 
the economic value of the Alaska seafood resource through 
marketing, education, and outreach. We work domestically and in 
more than 50 international markets to build demand for Alaska's 
wild, sustainable seafood, supporting fishermen and processors, 
and strengthening the global reputation of the Alaska seafood 
brand.
    As the Chairman said, the Alaska seafood industry is 
foundational not only to Alaska's economy, but to the Nation's 
blue economy. Seafood is Alaska's largest private sector 
employer, supporting over 40,000 jobs and generating more than 
$5 billion in added economic value. Nationally, Alaska accounts 
for roughly two-thirds of the U.S. commercial seafood landings 
and supports more than $10 billion in economic activity.
    But what truly sets Alaska apart is our dedication to 
sustainability. Our fisheries are managed under a science-based 
precautionary system that is enshrined in Alaska's 
Constitution. Sustainability is not just a marketing claim, 
it's a commitment to the future. It is reflected in every part 
of our industry, from our multigenerational fishing families to 
strict management practices, full resource utilization, and 
rigorous third-party certification. This model has allowed 
Alaska to avoid resource depletion and remain a global leader 
in responsible fisheries.
    To Alaskans, sustainability means that Alaska's seafood 
resource, fishing families, coastal communities, and way of 
life will continue to thrive for generations to come. Alaska 
seafood is also a major contributor to global food security. 
Alaska seafood can be found in over 90 countries, providing 
high-quality wild protein to consumers around the world.
    Key markets like the European Union and Japan directly rely 
on Alaska products, while other countries such as China and 
those in Southeast Asia play important roles in processing and 
global distribution. However, the global seafood marketplace is 
ever-evolving, increasingly competitive. Alaska producers face 
significant pressure from foreign competitors, particularly 
Russia, where lower costs and less stringent regulations allow 
products to enter global markets at artificially low prices and 
frequently through indirect channels.
    At the same time, U.S. producers face a growing web of 
tariff and non-tariff barriers. Uneven trade policies, complex 
certification requirements, and new systems like the European 
Union's catch traceability platform create additional burdens 
for responsible producers, often without effectively targeting 
bad actors.
    Here at home, Alaska seafood must also compete against 
imported products that are frequently produced under weaker 
environmental and labor standards. Maintaining a fair and 
competitive domestic market is critical to our Nation's food 
security and supply chain integrity. Federal programs have been 
essential in helping address these challenges.
    USDA Seafood Purchasing Programs provide stability during 
market disruptions while delivering nutritious seafood to 
American families. Marketing investments such as the Market 
Access Program have helped ASMI expand global demand and build 
brand recognition, and NOAA's Saltonstall-Kennedy grants have 
supported innovation, efficiency, and product development 
across the industry.
    The America First Trade Promotion Program offers additional 
opportunity to increase demand for Alaska seafood and other 
products globally. We also appreciate the establishment of the 
USDA Office of Seafood, which represents an important step 
toward better coordination and recognition of seafood within 
Federal policy.
    Looking ahead, continued Federal engagement and support 
will be critical. Investments in science, innovation, market 
development, infrastructure, and trade equity are all necessary 
to ensure that U.S. seafood producers can continue to compete 
on a level playing field.
    Alaska seafood tells a uniquely American story, one of 
stewardship, resilience, and leadership. With a continued 
partnership of Congress and Federal agencies, we have an 
opportunity to sustain the success and build upon this 
incredible maritime history through supporting jobs, 
strengthening food security, and reinforcing the United States' 
position as a global leader in the production of wild, 
sustainable seafood.
    Thank you for your time today and your commitment to our 
Nation's seafood industry. I look forward to working together 
to address these opportunities and challenges, and I welcome 
any questions you may have.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Woodrow follows:]

       Prepared Statement of Jeremy Woodrow, Executive Director, 
                   Alaska Seafood Marketing Institute
    Dear Chairman Sullivan, Ranking Member Blunt Rochester, and Members 
of the Subcommittee:

    On behalf of the Alaska Seafood Marketing Institute (ASMI), thank 
you for the opportunity to provide testimony on the critical role of 
the Alaska seafood industry in strengthening our Nation's coastal 
economies, advancing global sustainability leadership, and supporting 
American food security and trade competitiveness.
    ASMI is a public-private partnership between the State of Alaska 
and the seafood industry. Our mission is to increase the economic value 
of Alaska seafood through marketing, education, and outreach. We work 
domestically and in more than 50 international markets to build demand 
for Alaska's wild, sustainable seafood, supporting fishermen and 
processors, and strengthening the global reputation of the Alaska 
Seafood brand.
    The Alaska seafood industry is a cornerstone of both Alaska's 
economy and the broader United States seafood sector. Seafood is 
Alaska's largest private-sector employer, supporting tens of thousands 
of direct and indirect jobs across harvesting, processing, 
transportation, and distribution. The industry adds $5.2 billion 
annually in economic value within Alaska (about 7 percent of Alaska's 
GDP), making it one of the most important natural resource sectors in 
the state.
    Nationally, Alaska seafood generates over $10 billion in economic 
output and accounts for approximately two-thirds of total U.S. 
commercial seafood landings by volume. These fisheries supply high-
quality, wild, and sustainably harvested protein to domestic and 
international consumers. From small rural communities to major ports, 
Alaska's fisheries sustain livelihoods, support infrastructure 
investment, and contribute to food resilience in the United States.
    Alaska sets the global standard for well-managed, sustainable 
fisheries. Wild seafood is one of Alaska's most precious resources, and 
the state goes to great lengths to support its continued abundance. 
From fishermen and processors to scientists and law enforcement 
officials, sustainability is not only crucial to Alaskans livelihoods 
but is also a deeply ingrained way of life.
    The five pillars of Alaska seafood sustainability tell the story of 
the important work Alaska does to ensure that sustainable Alaska 
seafood reaches consumers across the world:

  1.  Families & Communities: Alaska's fishing families are the heart 
        and soul of Alaska's seafood industry, handing down fishing 
        practices from generation to generation and believing 
        passionately in the importance of sustainability. The ability 
        for generations of seafood harvesters to thrive from well-
        managed fisheries is the core definition of sustainability in 
        Alaska.

  2.  Social Responsibility: In Alaska, not only do we protect the fish 
        and the ecosystem, but the people that participate in the 
        fisheries as well.

  3.  Fisheries Management: Alaska represents the gold standard for 
        fisheries management around the world, utilizing a science-
        based precautionary approach that is built to adapt to 
        ecosystem changes.

  4.  Resource Utilization: Alaska strives to use 100 percent of the 
        resource. Fully utilizing our abundant resources provides 
        greater cultural significance and economic value. Alaska's 
        fisheries continuously research and invest in new technologies 
        to further improve resource utilization.

  5.  Certification: Third-party certification provides a way for 
        fisheries to verify responsible fisheries management and strong 
        governance. These programs provide market access and consumer 
        confidence across the globe.

    The principles of sustainability are embedded in Alaska's 
constitution, which mandates that fisheries be managed for sustained 
yield. As a result, Alaska has avoided many of the resource depletion 
challenges experienced in other global fisheries.
    Alaska seafood is a globally recognized premium product with a 
broad international footprint that is exported to at least 94 countries 
worldwide. This extensive reach underscores the industry's importance 
not only to Alaska's economy, but also to the United States' role in 
global seafood supply chains.
    Alaska seafood maintains a diverse portfolio of export markets 
shaped by consumption trends, processing dynamics, and trade policies. 
In 2024, the European Union was Alaska's largest export market by 
value, directly importing approximately $616 million in seafood. Key 
products included sockeye salmon, Alaska pollock fillets, and surimi. 
Japan closely followed, importing $571 million, with strong demand for 
pollock surimi and roe, salmon roe, sablefish, and Atka mackerel.
    China plays a distinct and critical role in the Alaska seafood 
supply chain. While importing approximately $566 million in Alaska 
seafood annually, its primary function is as a re-processing hub rather 
than a final consumer market. Due to high tariffs, Alaska seafood is 
generally not competitive for domestic consumption in China. Instead, 
products are thawed, processed into fillets or portions, re-frozen, and 
exported to other global markets.
    Similarly, Southeast Asia, which includes Thailand, Vietnam, and 
Indonesia, has emerged as an increasingly important region for seafood 
reprocessing, helping diversify supply chains. In contrast, markets in 
the Middle East and North Africa currently import relatively small 
volumes, representing potential areas for future growth in domestic 
demand and export to Europe.
    The global seafood marketplace is highly competitive, and Alaska 
faces significant challenges from foreign producers. Particularly 
concerning is the continued presence of Russian seafood in global 
markets. Russia remains Alaska's principal competitor for key species 
such as pollock, cod, salmon, and king crab. Russian producers often 
benefit from lower production costs and less rigorous regulatory 
frameworks, allowing them to undercut Alaska seafood prices 
internationally. Even where direct imports are restricted, Russian-
origin seafood can enter global supply chains through third countries, 
distorting markets and suppressing prices for responsibly harvested 
U.S. products.
    While the United States has implemented a full ban on Russian 
seafood imports, other major markets, for example the European Union, 
Japan, and the United Kingdom, have imposed more limited tariffs or 
sanctions. These uneven measures allow Russian seafood to continue 
circulating in global markets, distorting price competition and 
undermining U.S. producers.
    At the same time, tariff and non-tariff barriers such as complex 
import requirements, certification standards, and evolving traceability 
systems continue to impact Alaska seafood's ability to compete 
globally. Tariff disparities can place U.S. producers at a disadvantage 
relative to competitors from countries with preferential trade 
agreements.
    Regulatory measures, certification requirements, and documentation 
systems are becoming increasingly complex and burdensome. A notable 
example is the European Union's CATCH system, a digital platform 
designed to address illegal, unreported, and unregulated (IUU) fishing. 
While the goal of the system is aligned with U.S. sustainability 
values, its implementation introduces extreme administrative and 
logistical challenges for exporters, particularly when requirements 
overlap with existing U.S. traceability systems. Unfortunately, this 
system places a bureaucratic burden on good actors, such as Alaska 
seafood producers, and is a perfect example of a recent non-tariff 
trade barrier.
    The United States remains the largest market overall for Alaska 
seafood, representing over $2 billion annually through a combination of 
domestic landings and re-imported processed products.
    However, Alaska seafood also faces increasing competition in the 
U.S., which is one of the largest seafood-consuming nations in the 
world and where imports account for the majority of seafood consumed 
domestically. Alaska seafood therefore must compete with lower-cost 
imported products, many of which are produced under less stringent 
environmental, labor, and regulatory standards.
    Maintaining a fair but competitive domestic market is essential not 
only for economic resilience but also for national food security and 
supply chain integrity.
    Federal support has been instrumental in strengthening the value 
and market position of Alaska seafood both domestically and abroad. 
USDA Federal seafood purchase programs, such as Section 32, play an 
important role in supporting the stability and value of Alaska seafood, 
particularly during periods of market disruption. These purchases 
provide a dual benefit as they help alleviate supply imbalances and 
price pressures faced by U.S. fishermen and processors, while also 
delivering highly nutritious, sustainably harvested seafood to American 
families.
    Continued and expanded use of these programs can help strengthen 
domestic demand, reinforce food security, and ensure that U.S. seafood 
producers remain competitive in the face of global market volatility 
and import pressures.
    USDA marketing investments, including long-standing programs like 
the Market Access Program (MAP) funding and more recent programs such 
as the America First Trade Promotion Program (AFTPP), have enabled ASMI 
to expand international marketing and brand recognition, increase 
consumer awareness of sustainability and quality, and develop new 
market channels and product forms.
    The Alaska seafood industry has also benefited significantly from 
NOAA's Saltonstall-Kennedy (S-K) Grant Program, which has supported 
critical promotion, development and marketing investments that might 
not otherwise occur. These funds have advanced seafood innovation and 
product development, improved processing efficiency and full resource 
utilization, and strengthened marketing strategies and consumer 
education efforts. Targeted investments under S-K deliver measurable 
returns by driving demand, increasing product value, and supporting 
jobs throughout the American seafood supply chain from harvesters and 
processors to distributors and retailers.
    ASMI also appreciates the recent establishment of the USDA Office 
of Seafood, which represents an important step toward more coordinated 
Federal engagement with the U.S. seafood sector. The creation of this 
office will help elevate the role of seafood within Federal nutrition, 
trade, and agricultural policy, ensuring that fisheries are better 
integrated into national food systems. This enhanced focus will support 
American harvesters and processors, improve market access, and 
strengthen the competitiveness of U.S. seafood both domestically and 
overseas.
    The Alaska seafood industry is an essential pillar of the U.S. blue 
economy by supporting American jobs, strengthening food security, and 
supplying the world with high-quality, sustainably-harvested protein.
    However, this success is not guaranteed. Alaska seafood producers 
are navigating an increasingly complex and competitive global landscape 
shaped by uneven trade policies, rising non-tariff barriers, shifting 
supply chains, and aggressive price competition from foreign producers.
    Strategic Federal engagement is critical at this moment. Continued 
investment in fisheries science, technological innovations, market 
development, infrastructure and trade enforcement, along with 
coordinated policy support through agencies like USDA and NOAA, will be 
essential to maintaining U.S. leadership in sustainable seafood 
production.
    Alaska seafood tells a powerful American story: one of stewardship, 
resilience, and global leadership. It is a model of how natural 
resources can be managed responsibly while supporting hardworking 
Americans, vibrant coastal communities and the national economy.
    With continued partnership and support from Congress and Federal 
agencies, the United States has an opportunity not only to sustain this 
legacy, but to expand it and, in turn, ensure that American fishermen 
and processors can remain globally competitive, consumers at home and 
abroad continue to trust the Alaska Seafood brand, and our fisheries 
remain among the most sustainable in the world.
    Thank you for your leadership and commitment to America's seafood 
industry.
            Respectfully submitted,
                                            Jeremy Woodrow,
                                                Executive Director,
                                    Alaska Seafood Marketing Institute.

    Senator Sullivan. Great. Thank you, Mr. Woodrow. Mr. 
Wardwell.

STATEMENT OF NATHAN WARDWELL, MANAGING PARTNER, JOA SURVEYS LLC

    Mr. Wardwell. Chairman Sullivan, Ranking Member Blunt 
Rochester, and distinguished members of the Subcommittee, thank 
you for the opportunity to testify today.
    I was born and raised in Alaska and raised in a family 
there and own a small business in Anchorage that employs 15 
people. I have worked in the hydrographic services for more 
than 20 years. That sector that maps the seafloor, measures 
water levels, and provides the foundational data that makes 
safe navigation possible. That work has taken my company to 
every coast of the United States, from the Arctic to the 
Caribbean to the Great Lakes, and provides the foundational 
data--excuse me--and almost always in partnerships with Federal 
agencies.
    That experience gave me a broad perspective on how many 
industries depend on this data and how much is still missing. 
The simple truth is this: The blue economy cannot function 
without hydrographic services. Without accurate maps of the 
seafloor and real-time water level information, mariners cannot 
safely navigate. The same data that guides vessels safely into 
port is used to model tsunamis, forecast storm surge, identify 
critical mineral resources, route undersea fiber cables, and 
monitor long-term sea level change.
    It is the foundation beneath every sector of the blue 
economy: fishing, shipping, recreation, energy, and national 
security alike. Yet as of 2024, 46 percent of U.S. coastal 
ocean and Great Lakes waters remain unmapped to modern 
standards. In Alaska, that figure is even more striking. 62 
percent of more than 1.2 million square nautical miles of 
Alaska's waters are unmapped.
    For a state with more than 33,000 miles of shoreline and 
the Nation's only access to the Arctic Ocean, that gap is not 
just a data problem, it is an economic constraint, a safety 
risk, and a national security vulnerability. Closing it will 
require not only sustained investment and strong partnerships, 
but continued innovation in how we collect, integrate, and 
deliver hydrographic data at a scale that traditional methods 
alone cannot achieve. Closing that gap requires both government 
and private industry working together.
    The 2019 Presidential memorandum on ocean mapping of the 
U.S. Exclusive Economic Zone and the shoreline and nearshore of 
Alaska was an important step in building a plan. But not every 
port in America yet has the real-time water levels and current 
bathymetry that mariners need to navigate safely while 
maximizing their load capacity. And as vessels continue to grow 
larger, that need only intensifies.
    Senator Sullivan, I want to thank you personally for your 
work to bring more icebreakers to Alaska. I had the privilege 
of sailing aboard the U.S. Coast Guard Cutter Healy in the 
Arctic during graduate school, an experience that shaped my 
understanding of how icebreakers underpin our national 
security, emergency response, and scientific capabilities in 
ways nothing else can replace.
    I also want to thank you, Senator Murkowski, and Senator 
Cantwell, for introducing the Tsunami Warning Research and 
Education Act of 2026. In August 2025, a landslide in Tracy 
Arm, a fjord in southeast Alaska, generated a mega tsunami with 
run-up reaching nearly 1,600 feet above sea level. My company 
operated a water level station in an adjacent fjord installed 
on behalf of the Alaska Department of Natural Resources to 
provide data for a NOAA program.
    That station captured the tsunami in real time, and the 
data is now part of the scientific record. It exists because 
someone invested in putting an instrument there and because a 
State agency, a Federal program, and a private company were 
working together. That is the case for this investment.
    I will leave you with three points. First, hydrographic 
data is not a government overhead cost, it is the 
infrastructure the blue economy is built on. Second, delivering 
hydrographic data at the scale of Alaska demands strong public-
private partnerships and continued investment in innovation, 
from new sensor technologies to modern data frameworks to real-
time observing networks that can operate year-round in ice-
affected environments. And third, Alaska's 33,000 miles of 
shoreline and its position as America's Arctic Gateway presents 
an extraordinary blue economy opportunity, one we can only 
realize if we invest in knowing what lies beneath the waters.
    Thank you, and I look forward to further discussion.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Wardwell follows:]

       Prepared Statement of Nathan Wardwell, Managing Partner, 
                            JOA Surveys LLC
    Chairman Sullivan, Ranking Member Blunt Rochester, and 
distinguished Members of the Committee, thank you for inviting me to 
participate in today's hearing. It is an honor and I commend you for 
focusing on the importance of growing the Blue Economy.
    My name is Nathan Wardwell, Managing Partner of JOA Surveys, a 
small business in Anchorage, Alaska providing coastal mapping services 
nationwide for more than 20 years. After completing graduate studies at 
the University of New Hampshire in ocean mapping, I have participated 
in projects from the Arctic Ocean to the Caribbean Sea to the Great 
Lakes, giving me a regional and national perspective on coastal and 
maritime geospatial challenges.
Navigation, Commerce, and the Cost of Incomplete Data
    Underkeel clearance, the vertical distance between a vessel's keel 
and the seafloor, is one of the most fundamental safety parameters in 
maritime operations. Accurately calculating it requires three 
interlocking systems: high-resolution bathymetry, real-time water 
levels, and a consistent vertical datum tying them together.
    The degree to which authoritative data is available for monitoring 
underkeel clearance varies from port to port. Consider the Port of West 
Sacramento and its 43-mile Sacramento Deep Water Ship Channel. Bar 
Pilots navigating that channel have confirmed that most vessels draft 
deeply enough to require tidal consideration on every transit, meaning 
shippers cannot fully load vessels given current depth limitations, and 
cargo moves at a fraction of each ship's capacity.\1\ A real-time water 
level station tied to a consistent datum was required before pilots 
could safely navigate the channel while maximizing vessel load 
capacity.
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    \1\ U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, San Francisco District. 
Sacramento River Deep Water Ship Channel Limited Reevaluation Report--
Appendix E: With-Project Economic Analysis (Draft). February 2011. 
https://www.spn.usace.army.mil/Portals/68/docs/SRDWSC/Appendix_E.pd
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    At the Port of Alaska, with seasonal sea-ice and a 30-foot tidal 
range, vessels supplying goods to 90 percent of Alaska's population 
depend on the same authoritative bathymetry and real-time water 
levels.\2\ Yet across Alaska, marine pilots serving remote coastal 
communities routinely navigate without current bathymetry or real-time 
water levels along their routes.
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    \2\ Don Young Port of Alaska. About Don Young Port of Alaska. Port 
of Alaska, City of Anchorage. Accessed 2026. https://
www.portofalaska.com/about-us/
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Tracy Arm Landslide: Observation Infrastructure
    On August 10, 2025, a landslide above South Sawyer Glacier sent 64 
million cubic meters of rock into Tracy Arm fjord, generating the 
second-highest megatsunami ever recorded, with runup reaching nearly 
1,600 feet above sea level.\3\ Water level stations in Juneau and 
Endicott Arm detected a tsunami signal generated from the event.\4\ 
These stations provided the observational record researchers need to 
reconstruct wave propagation and model future hazards. Without datum-
referenced water level stations distributed across Southeast Alaska, 
that science cannot be done.
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    \3\ U.S. Geological Survey. 2025 Tracy Arm Landslide-Generated 
Tsunami. USGS Landslide Hazards Program, August 2025. https://
www.usgs.gov/programs/landslide-hazards/science/2025-tracy-arm-
landslide-generated-tsunami
    \4\ Shugar, D.H. et al., (2026). A 481-meter-high landslide-tsunami 
in a cruise ship-frequented Alaska fjord. Science, eaec3187. https://
doi.org/10.1126/science.aec3187
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    The economic consequences of this event are already being felt: 
five major cruise lines have removed Tracy Arm from their 2026 
itineraries, redirecting passengers to Endicott Arm.\5\ Increased 
cruise tourism in Alaska's fjords increases exposure to exactly these 
cascading geological risks. Observation infrastructure must grow with 
the industry.
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    \5\ Travel Market Report. Cruise Lines Pull Tracy Arm from Alaska 
Itineraries. April 6, 2026. https://www.travelmarketreport.com/cruises/
articles/cruise-lines-pull-tracy-arm-from-alaska-itineraries
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Western Alaska: The Flood Imperative
    When Typhoon Merbok struck the Yukon-Kuskokwim Delta in September 
2022, it impacted more than 35 Alaska Native communities along 1,300 
miles of coast.\6\ In 2024 the community of Kwigillingok experienced 
coastal flooding with water levels higher than the community members 
remember experiencing. The next year Typhoon Halong devastated 
Kwigillingok along with over 40 more communities in the Yukon-Kuskokwim 
Delta region.\7\ In many of these communities, emergency managers 
navigate blind and rebuilding efforts are hampered by a lack of 
observational data. These storms are not unique to Alaska. What remains 
unique is the real-time observational gap.
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    \6\ U.S. Geological Survey. Typhoon Merbok Coastal Community 
Impacts. USGS Supplemental Appropriations for Disaster Recovery 
Activities. https://www.usgs.gov/supplemental-appropriations-for-
disaster-recovery-activities/typhoon-merbok-coastal-community
    \7\ Alaska Public Media. Officials Say Storm `Completely 
Devastated' Western Alaska Communities (Typhoon Halong). October 13, 
2025. https://alaskapublic.org/news/public-safety/2025-10-13/officials-
say-storm-completely-devastated-western-alaska-communities
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GNSS-IR: Innovative Blue Economy Technology
    My company has been developing and deploying GNSS Interferometric 
Reflectometry, GNSS-IR, for water and ice level monitoring in Alaska 
since 2017, working with local, state, and Federal stakeholders to 
expand the coastal and river observing networks across the state.\8\ 
GNSS-IR is a remote sensing technique that measures water and ice 
levels using reflected satellite signals.\9\ Unlike conventional 
sensors, GNSS-IR requires no in-water infrastructure, making it well-
suited for remote and ice-affected environments. As the Blue Economy 
grows in the Arctic, this capability becomes increasingly critical. 
Full-scale adoption requires interagency commitment and investment.
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    \8\ Wardwell, Nathan, Drew Lindow, Reece Robinson, and Jim 
Mitchell. Adventures in Multipath: Extracting Tides & Water Levels from 
Noise in Alaska. Presentation at the Alaska Geospatial Summit, April 9, 
2025. JOA Surveys, Anchorage, AK. https://joasurveys.com/wp-content/
uploads/2025/04/AK-Geosummit-GNSS-IR.pdf
    \9\ Larson, K.M. GNSS Interferometric Reflectometry: A New Tool for 
Environmental Sensing. GPS Solutions, 2016. https://doi.org/10.1007/
s10291-016-0557-1
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Conclusion
    Since the precursor to NOAA's Office of Coast Survey was 
established by Congress in 1807, our Nation has understood the value of 
mapping its coasts and waters for navigation, land management, national 
security, and long-term monitoring. Yet in 2024, 46 percent of U.S. 
waters remain unmapped.\10\ Advancing American fisheries, maritime 
strength, and coastal economies depends on understanding our ocean and 
seafloor.
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    \10\ Carter, Nicole T., Laura B. Comay, Caitlin Keating-Bitonti, 
Eva Lipiec, and Linda R. Rowan. Frequently Asked Questions: Mapping of 
U.S. Ocean and Coastal Waters. Congressional Research Service Report 
No. R47623, updated July 29, 2025. Washington, DC: Congressional 
Research Service. https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R47623
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    That requires strong public-private partnerships and continued 
investment in ocean technology. Thank you for this opportunity to 
testify.

    Senator Sullivan. Thank you, Mr. Wardwell. And stay tuned 
on the icebreakers. Might have some more announcements coming 
up here from the Coast Guard on homeporting icebreakers in 
Alaska, which is, by the way, the place you would think the 
Coast Guard would have done that about 50 years ago, putting 
the icebreakers in the state with the ice. But that's actually 
never happened. So we're working on that one, too.
    Mr. Heil, you're up.

           STATEMENT OF CLAYTON HEIL, VICE PRESIDENT,

              GLOBAL GOVERNMENT RELATIONS, CROWLEY

    Mr. Heil. Chairman Sullivan, Ranking Member Blunt 
Rochester, and members of the Subcommittee, my name is Clay 
Heil, and I serve as Vice President of Global Government 
Relations for Crowley. Thank you for the opportunity to 
testify.
    Crowley is a privately held, U.S. owned maritime logistics 
and energy company founded in 1892 and headquartered in 
Jacksonville, Florida. For more than 130 years, Crowley has 
served commercial and government customers in some of the most 
difficult environments in the world. Today, our business 
includes logistics, vessel operations, fuel transportation and 
distribution, ship assist and escort services, vessel 
construction management, and government services.
    We are also deeply committed to Alaska, where Crowley has 
operated for more than 70 years. Crowley employs hundreds of 
Alaskans and supports communities across the state by 
purchasing, transporting, storing, and distributing the fuels 
needed to heat homes, operate schools and businesses, fly 
aircraft, and power the vessels that support Alaska's fishing 
economy.
    In western Alaska, Crowley operates coastal and river 
barges serving remote communities where maritime transportation 
is not just a convenience, it is the supply chain. Crowley's 
work in Alaska demonstrates why this hearing matters. The blue 
economy is not an abstract policy concept. It's the daily work 
of fishermen, mariners, shipyard workers, port employees, fuel 
distributors, tug and barge operators, seafood processors, and 
the families and communities that depend upon them.
    The Jones Act is essential to that system. It ensures that 
cargo moving between American ports is carried on vessels that 
are American-built, owned, crewed, and flagged. It also 
supports the domestic maritime workforce, a U.S. shipbuilding 
and repair base, and dedicated trade lanes that provide 
regular, reliable service to American communities.
    That reliability is especially important for the fishing 
industry and for remote markets. Fishing operations depend on 
steady fuel deliveries, functioning ports, trained mariners, 
and vessels that can carry--can safely operate in difficult 
environments. Those capabilities do not appear overnight. They 
are built through long-term private investment, and the Jones 
Act gives companies the confidence to make those investments.
    Crowley strongly supports the administration's maritime 
executive order and the bipartisan SHIPS for America Act. Both 
recognize that the United States must rebuild its maritime 
industrial base, expand U.S. flag shipping, grow the pool of 
American mariners, strengthen domestic shipbuilding, and ensure 
that our Nation has the commercial maritime capacity needed for 
economic security and national defense.
    Those are the right goals, and Crowley is prepared to help 
meet them. For decades, we have invested in American shipyards, 
U.S. built vessels, American mariners, port infrastructure, and 
the domestic maritime services that support American 
communities. But those investments depend on stable, 
predictable policy environments. The current Jones Act waiver 
undermines those efforts.
    Crowley recognizes that true emergencies may require 
carefully tailored waivers. Congress has provided a process for 
that purpose, and the maritime industry has understood that 
national defense and emergency response come first. Crowley is 
proud of its longstanding role supporting national security 
missions. Our commercial operations employ and train American 
mariners and provide access to vessels, logistics capabilities, 
and global transportation networks that support military 
sealift readiness and crisis response when the Nation needs 
them.
    But broad or recurring waivers that are not tied to a 
specific vessel need, a specific cargo need, or the actual non-
availability of U.S. vessels creates a very different problem. 
Such waivers send the wrong message at the wrong time. At the 
very moment the administration and Congress are calling for 
more U.S. flag vessels, more American mariners, more shipyard 
capacity, and more private investment. The waiver invites 
foreign-flagged vessels into domestic trades and weakens the 
market certainty needed to build that capacity.
    The current waiver has also not solved the underlying 
energy problem. It does not create new supply or make global 
tanker markets less volatile. Instead, it shifts cargo away 
from American vessels and American crews while weakening the 
long-term business case for the domestic maritime capacity we 
will need in the next crisis.
    Crowley stands ready to work with this committee, the 
administration, and our partners across the country to 
strengthen America's maritime economy, support our fishing and 
coastal communities, and ensure the United States remains a 
maritime Nation.
    Thank you for the opportunity to testify, and I look 
forward to your questions.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Heil follows:]

          Prepared Statement of Clayton Heil, Vice President, 
                  Global Government Relations, Crowley
    Chairman Sullivan, Ranking Member Blunt Rochester, and members of 
the Subcommittee. My name is Clay Heil, and I serve as Vice President 
of Global Government Relations for Crowley. Thank you for the 
opportunity to testify today.
    Crowley is a privately held, U.S.-owned maritime, logistics, and 
energy company founded in 1892 and headquartered in Jacksonville, 
Florida. For more than 130 years, Crowley has served commercial and 
government customers in some of the most difficult operating 
environments in the world. Today, our business includes logistics, 
vessel operations, fuel transportation and distribution, ship assist 
and escort services, vessel construction management, and government 
services.
    We are also deeply committed to Alaska, where Crowley has operated 
for more than 70 years. Crowley employs hundreds of Alaskans and 
supports communities across the state by purchasing, transporting, 
storing, and distributing the fuels needed to heat homes, operate 
schools and businesses, fly aircraft, and power the vessels that 
support Alaska's fishing economy. In Western Alaska, Crowley operates 
coastal and river barges serving remote communities where marine 
transportation is not just a convenience; it is the supply chain.
    Crowley's work in Alaska demonstrates why this hearing matters. The 
blue economy is not an abstract policy concept. It is the daily work of 
fishermen, mariners, shipyard workers, port employees, fuel 
distributors, tug and barge operators, seafood processors, and the 
families and communities that depend on them.
    The Jones Act is essential to that system. It ensures that cargo 
moving between American ports is carried on vessels that are American-
built, owned, crewed, and flagged. It also supports a domestic maritime 
workforce, a U.S. shipbuilding and repair base, and dedicated trade 
lanes that provide regular, reliable service to American communities.
    That reliability is especially important for the fishing industry 
and for remote markets. Fishing operations depend on steady fuel 
deliveries, functioning ports, trained mariners, and vessels that can 
safely operate in difficult environments. Those capabilities do not 
appear overnight. They are built through long-term private investment, 
and the Jones Act gives companies the confidence to make those 
investments.
    Crowley strongly supports the Administration's Maritime Executive 
Order and the bipartisan SHIPS for America Act. Both recognize that the 
United States must rebuild its maritime industrial base, expand U.S.-
flag shipping, grow the pool of American mariners, strengthen domestic 
shipbuilding, and ensure that our Nation has the commercial maritime 
capacity needed for economic security and national defense.
    Those are the right goals, and Crowley is prepared to help meet 
them. For decades, we have invested in American shipyards, U.S.-built 
vessels, American mariners, port infrastructure, and the domestic 
maritime services that support American communities. But those 
investments depend on a stable and predictable policy environment.
    The current Jones Act waiver undermines those efforts.
    Crowley recognizes that true emergencies may require narrowly 
tailored waivers. Congress has provided a process for that purpose, and 
the maritime industry has always understood that national defense and 
emergency response come first. Crowley is proud of its longstanding 
role supporting national security missions. Our commercial operations 
employ and train American mariners and provide access to vessels, 
logistics capabilities, and global transportation networks that support 
military sealift, readiness, and crisis response when the Nation needs 
them. But broad or recurring waivers that are not tied to a specific 
vessel need, specific cargo need, or the actual non-availability of 
U.S. vessels create a very different problem.
    Such waivers send the wrong signal at the wrong time. At the very 
moment the Administration and Congress are calling for more U.S.-flag 
vessels, more American mariners, more shipyard capacity, and more 
private investment, the waiver invites foreign-flag vessels into 
domestic trades and weakens the market certainty needed to build that 
capacity.
    The current waiver has also not solved the underlying energy 
problem. It does not create new supply or make global tanker markets 
less volatile. Instead, it shifts cargo away from American vessels and 
American crews while weakening the long-term business case for the 
domestic maritime capacity we will need in the next crisis.
    Crowley stands ready to work with this Committee, the 
Administration, and our partners across the country to strengthen 
America's maritime economy, support our fishing and coastal 
communities, and ensure that the United States remains a maritime 
nation.
    Thank you for the opportunity to testify. I look forward to your 
questions.

    Senator Sullivan. Thank you to all the witnesses. That was 
a great overview of many important topics. The topic of the 
blue economy itself is kind of broad.
    So, Mr. Sheridan, why don't we start with you since you 
focus on this a lot at UAF, and they have a great program on 
fisheries and many other things. You work across many sectors 
of Alaska's blue economy. How do you define the blue economy, 
and where do you see the greatest opportunities for growth over 
the next decade, not just in Alaska, but I would say throughout 
the United States?
    Mr. Sheridan. Thank you for the question, Chairman 
Sullivan. I think that your introduction on the blue economy 
was very good, very inclusive. Blue economy is a very broad and 
expansive term, and I like to describe it as everything that 
happens in places like Cordova and Valdez, where I've lived for 
16 years now.
    In both communities, we have one of North America's largest 
salmon aquaculture programs. We have renowned commercial 
fisheries, certainly associated marine shipping. In Valdez, of 
course, is the terminus for the Trans-Alaska Pipeline and so 
energy is a big industry in that region. And with its access to 
the road system, Valdez is positioned to be a significant port 
for national defense and national security.
    So, it really runs the gamut in coastal Alaska. Some of the 
areas of opportunity that we've been involved with and have 
been tracking includes making just better use, more full use of 
the existing infrastructure and resources that we have. With 
the seafood industry, there has been a lot of interest lately 
on Icelandic models and the work that's being done there 
through the Iceland Ocean Cluster to make more full utilization 
of their cod fishery resource. I think there's opportunity to 
do that in Alaska.
    One example of that that we've been involved with is a 
discussion around the potential to integrate mariculture into 
Alaska's salmon hatchery system, for example. That's something 
that folks are interested in, in addition to the development of 
energy in the vicinity of those sites.
    Tourism is rapidly becoming one of the largest sectors in 
Alaska's blue economy. There have been significant port 
developments in Cordova, Valdez, Whittier, Seward, all in our 
neighborhood of Prince William Sound, with additional 
significant investments to come in Nome. And so I think we'll 
see a growth of that industry in that direction.
    But in general, just to answer your question, of course, 
it's a significant opportunity. Estimates are for the global 
ocean economy to grow to or beyond $3 trillion by 2030. And 
certainly----
    Senator Sullivan. In the U.S. or globally?
    Mr. Sheridan. Globally. And certainly much more so in the 
next decade. So those are a few things that we're tracking and 
interested in.
    Senator Sullivan. Right. Mr. Wardwell, you talk about when 
people hear hydrography and ocean mapping, they may not 
immediately connect that to economic growth. Can you explain 
how investments in mapping directly support jobs and economic 
activity? And additionally, you mentioned that not having 
mapping done is a national security vulnerability.
    I'm sure you recall, a lot of Alaskans did--last summer we 
had a Chinese research fleet off the coast of Alaska, all 
summer, that was a spy operation. We all know that, right, and 
trying to map the floor and find our cables and maybe 
subroutes. I mean, that's what they were doing. They weren't 
doing research, wasn't friendly. They were spying on us. So can 
you talk a little bit about that national security 
vulnerability as well?
    Mr. Wardwell. Yes, so the ocean mapping and the blue 
economy obviously are tied together, right? You can't do 
anything in the--in the ocean without wanting to know or 
needing to know something about the water depth, whether you're 
doing construction for a coastal facility or you're trying to 
identify an area to preserve. One of the--I think the collapse 
of the Francis Scott Key Bridge is a good example. In order to 
open up commerce into those ports, you had to map the seafloor 
to find safe routes for the vessels to come in and out of the 
port.
    Every foot of draft for a vessel equates to additional 
revenue and profit for companies and more efficient commerce. 
So those are directly tied to ocean mapping. All of the work 
from the fisheries and everything else is fundamental to 
achieving those goals.
    From a national security standpoint, I read the news in 
Alaska, I see the articles about the boats and the Bering from 
foreign countries. We can't--without understanding our coasts 
and our seafloor, can't safely navigate, we can't move 
commerce----
    Senator Sullivan. We need to understand our coasts and 
seafloor more than the Chinese understand our coasts and 
seafloor. Isn't that like an imperative? Like, figure out what 
we have before they do? And those guys were up all summer last 
summer trying to figure it out, as you know.
    Mr. Wardwell. Agreed. As somebody in the mapping industry, 
it's always kind of blown me away that we have--that the moon 
is mapped better than our oceans on Earth. I think there's some 
value there.
    Senator Sullivan. Good. Thank you. Senator Blunt Rochester.
    Senator Blunt Rochester. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I want to 
start off with talking about aquaculture. The United States has 
one of the world's largest ocean economies, yet we still import 
the majority of our seafood that we consume. Shellfish 
aquaculture offers economic, environmental, and food security 
benefits for coastal communities.
    So I'd like to start with you, Mr. Woodrow. How can 
shellfish aquaculture strengthen America's blue economy, 
particularly in supporting domestic seafood production, coastal 
jobs, and healthy marine ecosystems?
    Mr. Woodrow. Thank you, Ranking Member Blunt Rochester, for 
that question. I will try to answer your question as best I 
can. I am a wild fisheries expert when it comes to marketing. 
We are growing, and no pun intended, our aquaculture sector in 
Alaska, especially in terms of oyster aquaculture as well as 
seaweed aquaculture.
    I will say that the investment in those industries is 
really beginning. It has been--they've been around for decades, 
but they did receive a significant Build Back Better grant that 
was about $50 million several years ago to heavily invest more 
into that industry. As Mr. Sheridan said, we are looking at how 
we can bridge the gap between our growing mariculture industry 
and aquaculture industry and our existing coastal economies 
with our wild capture fisheries.
    One thing that's really unique in Alaska is the timing of 
our fisheries. We have a lot of seafood processing plants that 
sit empty throughout the year. They're really busy throughout 
those pulse fisheries, and there are vacancies throughout the 
year where those can be filled with other fisheries, and that 
keeps the lights on, keeps the economy going in those small 
communities, and frankly, it's an opportunity for growth. So 
that's one area that we definitely need to continue to explore. 
And that's something that Alaska is doing and trying to be a 
leader in.
    I will say, when it comes to aquaculture as well, is when 
it comes to wild capture fisheries, for the most part, we look 
globally, our wild capture fisheries are maxed out, right? 
We're doing a good job of most of the part of sustainably 
managing and, you know, and catching those fisheries. If we 
need to continue to feed the world, we need to find aquaculture 
as well to feed the world. We need to do it responsibly and we 
need to look at areas where we can do that responsibly.
    And so that's one thing that Alaska is doing and why those 
fisheries that we're looking at are those aquaculture 
agriculture fisheries that we're looking at, such as shellfish 
fisheries, is where we're starting.
    Senator Blunt Rochester. You mentioned just the growing 
demand both domestically as well as globally but we still see 
that the industry faces some significant barriers. Could you 
talk about some of the biggest challenges that are limiting the 
responsible growth of shellfish, and also what actions that we 
as Congress or Federal agencies like NOAA or USDA can take to 
better support the industry?
    Mr. Woodrow. Thank you for that question. For Alaska, 
probably our greatest challenge is always our greatest strength 
as well, and it's our remoteness. The economy of scale in 
Alaska is always challenging. We're far away from the rest of 
the world, so being able to move our product to the rest of the 
world is costly. Getting product to Alaska to be--to start 
investing is always costly.
    And so we were always looking at ways to try to expand that 
efficiency, but we need to start small and continue to grow 
from there. And I can't speak to the rest of the--the rest of 
that industry across the U.S. because I really am an Alaska 
expert. But I know that's probably been the most difficult 
aspect to growing that aquaculture industry in Alaska is really 
it's the economy of scale and it's the remoteness. It just--
it's really, really expensive to do business in Alaska in these 
remote areas.
    Senator Blunt Rochester. Thank you. I'm going to turn to 
the Jones Act. I'm concerned by recent actions that the 
administration has taken to undermine the maritime industry and 
our global competitiveness in response to energy price 
inflation caused by the Iran war, we've taken some 
unprecedented steps of creating a prolonged Jones Act waiver.
    And I think it was you, Mr. Heil, that said limited, you 
know, targeted, that makes sense. After issuing a 60-day waiver 
in March, the President decided to extend the waiver an 
additional 90 days as the war continues on. When it is 
currently set to expire mid-August, the 150-day waiver will be 
the longest in modern history. And we're seeing just the 
impacts of this waiver.
    It's reported that it's halting a $1 billion investment. 
And just last week, we saw a vessel with ties to the Chinese 
government carrying cargo between U.S. ports. Mr. Heil, how 
have Jones Act waivers chilled investment in our domestic 
maritime industry, and how will this affect the workforce?
    Mr. Heil. Well, thank you for the question, Senator. I 
guess on the workforce part, I'll start with that. We're 
hearing from our own mariners, U.S. citizens, our mariners who 
are asking, what does this waiver mean for our jobs long term? 
If waivers are to continue and reoccur, what does that mean for 
me and my employment? So that's a concern for us and for our 
workers.
    And you mentioned the Chinese vessel that moved asphalt 
from Louisiana to Connecticut last week. The Chinese, you know, 
crude vessel, Chinese-built vessel operating in our territorial 
waters under a national security waiver, moving asphalt. That's 
concerning on a variety of levels.
    For the investment community, when waivers are extended 
like this--and this is, as you mentioned, there is no 
historical parallel for a waiver of this duration or covering 
this many products, over 600--it causes investment to pull 
back. Shipyards will kind of in the short term probably not see 
severe impacts, it's more of the longer term of future 
investments.
    Companies like ours are looking to recapitalize our fleets. 
If the Jones Act looks unstable, we're not going to do that. 
For shipyards, U.S. shipyards, they may see orders being 
canceled. They may see their order book dry up for Jones Act 
vessels. So I think it's concerning on multiple levels, the 
duration and the uncertainty that it brings to the marketplace 
and to private capital who won't invest in unstable markets.
    Senator Blunt Rochester. Thank you, Mr. Heil. I have more 
questions, and I don't know if you're going to do a round two. 
I can submit them----
    Senator Sullivan. Yes, we will do a round two.
    Senator Blunt Rochester.--for the record. Thank you and I 
yield back.
    Senator Sullivan. Chairman Wicker.
    Senator Wicker. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And let me just 
say that no one has done more for this area of subject matter 
than Senator Dan Sullivan of Alaska and I very much appreciate 
the fact that he is a valuable member of the Committee that I 
chair, the Armed Services Committee, and he realizes, in his 
capacity as subcommittee chairman on this committee, the inner 
workings of national security with everything that we've talked 
about today.
    I'm glad the Ranking Member has mentioned the Jones Act, 
and so I want to continue to try to delve on that. I've always 
been a big supporter of the Jones Act, and actually the Jones 
Act was sort of considered holy writ in both parties for a long 
time. Now we do see a number of people from both ends of the 
ideological spectrum attacking the Jones Act now.
    And I think, Mr. Heil, you would agree that we need to step 
up our defense of the Jones Act. What is the national security 
aspect of ensuring that we have a large enough domestic fleet?
    Mr. Heil. Senator, Department of Defense, Department of War 
have said for decades that the Jones Act is critical for their 
efforts, not only to provide the mariners and surge capacity 
requirements that are needed in times of war, also the vessels 
that are needed that support our U.S. military. We are in the 
Tanker Security Program. We have three tankers that support 
Department of Defense assets around the world providing fuel 
and supplies. That's just one part of the U.S. commercial 
effort that supports our defense efforts.
    Also, the shipyard capabilities are extremely important. We 
need to maintain our shipyards and having the workers that know 
how to build commercial ships, those are the same workers that 
are building our military vessels. So we need to maintain that 
whole infrastructure to counter our--counter China and others 
who are building their naval assets around the world and who 
are in fact incorporating their commercial assets into their 
battle plans.
    So we need to have the U.S. flag fleet that is able to 
project power worldwide and then provide supplies for our 
country in times of war.
    Senator Wicker. Well said. I think we would agree, though, 
and all four of you would probably agree, we really still don't 
have enough of a domestic fleet. What do we need to do in 
addition to the Jones Act to build more commercial-type ships 
in the United States of America? We're just not getting there. 
And this point is made by people who are attacking the Jones 
Act.
    Mr. Heil. The biggest thing that would--biggest help that 
would be needed is cargo to put on those vessels. I mean, we 
make investments in new ships based on cargo demand. We have--
--
    Senator Wicker. During times when we're not at war.
    Mr. Heil. During times when we're not at war. You know, 
they're commercial vessels. We need to have customers and cargo 
to go on those vessels. There are various ideas that have been 
posed in the SHIPS Act and the Maritime Action Plan to address 
that. One idea is a tax incentive. Basically, it would be 
incentive--get a tax incentive if you put cargo on U.S. built 
ships. I think that would do a lot to help increase demand for 
U.S. built vessels and produce more ships in our shipyards.
    Senator Wicker. Mr. Heil, you in your testimony commend the 
Maritime Executive Order and the bipartisan SHIPS for America 
Act. But at the same time, you're very troubled, as are the 
three of us, with the current waiver. We talk about the 
narrowly tailored waivers that Congress has provided for. It's 
my position that there's some question as to whether the 
current waiver complies with the statute.
    Would anybody on the panel like to respond to that? I think 
probably, Mr. Heil, your company questions whether the 
administration has gone farther than the statute anticipated.
    Mr. Heil. Yes, Senator, there are two parts of the statute, 
501(a) and 501(b). 501(a) is the national security waiver part 
of it, where the Secretary of Defense identifies, ``It's 
necessary in the interest of national defense to address an 
immediate adverse effect on military operations.'' When we look 
at the movement last week of asphalt on a Chinese-built ship, 
Chinese crewed ship, from Louisiana to Connecticut, we fail to 
see the national security interest, and there are a lot of 
products on that list, over 600, that we see no national 
security relevance----
    Senator Wicker. If war breaks out, that Chinese ship's not 
going to be available to us, is it?
    Mr. Heil. It is not.
    Senator Wicker. Would any of the three of you other 
gentlemen like to agree or disagree with the basic premise that 
Mr. Heil and I have been talking about and the distinguished 
Ranking Member, about the necessity of the Jones Act? Anyone 
feel differently? Well, the cat's got your tongue. Mr. Woodrow, 
you're smiling and the Chair is being lenient with the gavel.
    Mr. Woodrow. Thank you, Senator Wicker. What I will address 
in terms of our fisheries and trying to compete in the global 
environment and I'll use Russia as an example here, Russia is 
expanding its fleet of fishing vessels with government 
subsidies at a rate that we can't compete with, especially for 
our large or larger vessels. The cost to build a large trawler 
in China--well, it doesn't matter where they build it, whether 
it's in China or Turkey or overseas--but the cost to build a 
Russian vessel is about a third the cost it is to build here in 
the U.S.
    I don't have a silver bullet of how we fix that here at 
home, but all I know is that we're falling behind our 
competitors and it does make it very challenging for us to 
continue to compete with them in a global space.
    Senator Wicker. Anyone else? Mr. Chairman, thank you for 
your indulgence.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And we're going 
to go to round two, Senator Blunt Rochester, if that makes 
sense for you, because we have these witnesses who came from 
many parts of the country, but particularly far away from 
Alaska.
    So let me turn to Mr. Woodrow. I want focus a little bit on 
the threat to the American blue economy, particularly from--you 
just mentioned it--from foreign governments. I'm going to focus 
on Russia and China. So I'm sure you're very familiar with, we 
had Russia ban the importation of all American seafood starting 
in 2014. That's an unlevel playing field. That's really an 
outrage. And to be honest, we didn't really react. I was 
certainly trying to get the governments of Obama, Trump won, 
and Biden to retaliate and I was successful.
    I worked with the Biden administration. My team and I put 
thousands of hours into making sure there was a ban on the 
importation of all Russian seafood into America. Then they 
tried to launder it through China, and we got that loophole 
closed. By the way, if anyone else says they were working it, 
don't believe them, because it was my team and I. And that's a 
fact.
    And then the Trump administration came on board and we 
said, hey, there are a lot of executive orders the Biden 
administration did, particularly against Alaska, that we want 
you to rescind because they hurt our economy, but not this one. 
Keep it. And the Trump administration listened to us and 
they've kept it.
    So how important is that, that we finally, after 10 years, 
said we're not going to put up with this unlevel playing field? 
And oh, by the way, why should American importers--I had 
legislation to ban Russian importation of seafood, brought it 
to the Senate floor a few times. Unfortunately, some of my 
colleagues blocked it, but we got through that. But how 
important is it for Americans to have American freedom fish, 
not Russian or Chinese communist fish, and to sustainability, 
to national security, and just fairness.
    I mean, this country banned the importation of any fish 
from America for 10 years, and now we finally reacted. And 
isn't that benefiting our coastal communities and fisheries, 
not just in Alaska, but throughout the country, for Americans 
to buy American seafood from American fishermen, not rely on 
this communist fish from China and Russia? How important has 
that been?
    Mr. Woodrow. Chairman Sullivan, thank you for bringing this 
up. Thank you for your work on this issue and----
    Senator Sullivan. Yes, we worked it really, really hard. By 
the way, there are some other people out there saying they had 
something to do with it. They didn't. Zero. Zilch. Nada. It was 
my team and I, and we put thousands of hours. The only reason I 
say that, I get offended sometimes when my team works hard and 
someone else comes in saying, oh, I did it. Nothing to do with 
it. My team and I did it, exclusively.
    Mr. Woodrow. Alaska fishermen owe you a great debt of 
gratitude. For those who might not be aware, 2 years ago, 
seafood processors told Alaska pink salmon fishermen to stop 
fishing because they could not buy their fish for a single 
penny per pound and sell that fish on the market. They would--
--
    Senator Sullivan. And weren't the Russians flooding the 
American market with seafood? Flooding. And trying to undercut 
and kill Alaska and American fishermen?
    Mr. Woodrow. Senator, at that time, they weren't just 
flooding the U.S. market, they were flooding the global 
market----
    Senator Sullivan. And they were doing it to try to destroy 
you guys, our fishermen, our coastal communities, weren't they?
    Mr. Woodrow. Senator, they have publicly said that their 
goal is to bring down Alaska's fisheries.
    Senator Sullivan. They said they were at war with Alaska 
fishermen.
    Mr. Woodrow. You are correct.
    Senator Sullivan. And when someone says to me, you're at 
war with my constituents, I say we fight back. And that's what 
we did, right?
    Mr. Woodrow. Correct. And I will say that upholding this 
ban has made a difference. We have seen prices rebound here in 
the U.S. marketplace----
    Senator Sullivan. Because Americans are buying Americans' 
freedom fish, not communist fish from Russia.
    Mr. Woodrow. Correct.
    Senator Sullivan. Good. Well, listen, we're going to keep 
that. We've worked with the President and his team, both 
administrations. This has been bipartisan. But again, I know 
we've worked with all of you guys on this. It was a really, 
really important policy goal that my team and I are proud to 
have led on and delivered. Not just for Alaskan fishermen, 
American fishermen.
    So let's turn to China. So my bill, the FISH Act, which 
passed the Senate unanimously just about two months ago. I've 
been working on getting that over the goal line for about four 
years, and I finally got it over the goal line. That targets 
IUU fishing, unsustainable fishing, and it's aggressive. It 
sanctions Chinese fleets. It sends the Coast Guard and the U.S. 
Navy to go after them. It is the most aggressive bill. We're 
hoping the House is going to pass it here. Again, it was 
unanimous in the Senate, which I was proud of.
    But you mentioned it, the Chinese--I chair the 
Congressional Executive Committee on China. That's a 
longstanding committee that was passed after China joined the 
WTO in the Congress. Senator Rubio used to chair it. When he 
became Secretary of State, now I chair it. We had a hearing 
recently on IUU fishing. The Chinese use slave labor on their 
ships. How hard is it for American fishermen, Alaska fishermen, 
to compete against slave labor?
    Mr. Woodrow. Thank you, Senator. It undercuts us at every 
aspect----
    Senator Sullivan. Impossible, right?
    Mr. Woodrow. Yes, it's impossible. And it undercuts us at 
every aspect----
    Senator Sullivan. Slave labor. People are forced to work, 
not paid, human trafficked. This is the China gray fleet.
    Mr. Woodrow. What I'll also add, where it undercuts 
American fishermen is seafood has a challenge to enter into 
American homes, and it creates a barrier that they're--of 
confusion for consumers, and they just turn away from seafood 
entirely.
    Senator Sullivan. Let me give you another example on China 
that I was proud to have led on. In last year's NDAA, I had a 
bill of mine that got in there saying we should not have any 
imports of Chinese fish into military, DFACs, military chow 
halls, or military commissaries. Our military shouldn't be 
eating communist fish from China. By the way, you think 
they're--you think the Chinese military is eating Alaskan fish? 
No.
    So my bill passed. So there's no communist Chinese fish in 
any commissary, in any chow hall in America. And believe it or 
not, there was a lot, right? There was a lot. So we stopped 
that. But I have another bill. I told you my comprehensive 
bycatch bill, which would be the most comprehensive bycatch 
legislation ever that says, why should we import any seafood 
from China if they don't have the standards that we do?
    So my next focus is trying to get that over the goal line, 
including a ban on Chinese fish into America. Do you think that 
makes sense?
    Mr. Woodrow. Senator----
    Senator Sullivan. They don't have the sustainability that 
you do, that we do, that American fishermen do.
    Mr. Woodrow.--for seafood coming into the U.S., regardless 
of where it may be coming from, we should be upholding to the 
same standards that we apply to our seafood here in the U.S.
    Senator Sullivan. Yes, exactly. The same standards that we 
have. And we have the highest standards in the world, don't we?
    Mr. Woodrow. We certainly do.
    Senator Sullivan. On not just sustainability, environmental 
stewardship, but also workforce, right? We don't use slave 
labor on our ships, do we?
    Mr. Woodrow. We certainly don't.
    Senator Sullivan. Well, that's what we're going to do. And 
I think we'll have bipartisan support for that. So Senator 
Cantwell, the Ranking Member of this committee, the broader 
committee, welcome, and the floor is yours.

               STATEMENT OF HON. MARIA CANTWELL, 
                  U.S. SENATOR FROM WASHINGTON

    Senator Cantwell. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you to you 
and to Senator Blunt Rochester for holding this very important 
meeting on the blue economy and the competitiveness of America 
in the maritime sector. So very much appreciated. I don't 
think--I don't think you were including me on people who helped 
claim credit for helping you on Russian fish. I think you 
thought I helped you, right?
    Senator Sullivan. No, I wasn't including you at all.
    Senator Cantwell. OK.
    Senator Sullivan. You're a partner.
    Senator Cantwell. Thank you. Appreciate that. And I want to 
continue to be.
    I think this issue you've just illuminated--I just went on 
a trip to China with four of our colleagues, including two from 
our committee, and definitely brought up seafood. And the 
Senator's point about Russia moving their illegal fish through 
China has got to stop. And China has to become a better 
sustainable fisheries nation, and we should work with them on 
that or point out how that should be accomplished.
    But they also represent 45 percent of the world's seafood 
consumption. So I was very surprised to see a bountiful dinner 
that I had there of really just Northwest product. Dungeness 
crab, spot prawns, geoduck, shellfish. I was thinking they have 
the best--they're eating the best that Washington State has to 
offer. And so to me, they should open up----
    Senator Sullivan. Just real quick, do you think that was a 
propaganda dinner that they were like----
    Senator Cantwell. No, because it was arranged by--it was 
arranged by somebody--growers in our state.
    Senator Sullivan. OK, just checking.
    Senator Cantwell. Growers. We had to push our way in. Push 
our way in. But the point is, instead of marketing and selling 
illegal Russian fish and trying to make money off of that, they 
should develop distribution and trade relations with the U.S. 
on seafood and better give us access to their market, because 
they like seafood. And the fact that they consume so much, 
that's the big opportunity, and we're happy to depart to them 
what better fisheries management truly looks like.
    But we have lots of fish we can sell to them if they would 
just let it in the door. So I want to work with this committee 
and the two of you on ideas to further that. But, I do think 
that brings up a point about tariffs. I don't like the tariffs 
because I don't like the tariffs being charged on fisheries, 
and I don't know, maybe somebody might want to comment about 
that.
    But this broader hearing being about strengthening the 
coastal communities and the maritime economy, I wanted to--I'll 
put a longer statement in for the record that covers all of 
that, Mr. Chairman.
    [The information referred to follows.]

Prepared Statement of Hon. Maria Cantwell, U.S. Senator from Washington
    Thank you, Senator Sullivan, for holding this important hearing.
    From fisheries and seafood processing, to shipbuilding, ports, 
maritime transportation, tourism, and emerging ocean technologies, the 
marine economy contributes more than $500 billion dollars annually to 
our Nation's economy and supports millions of jobs. Nowhere is that 
more evident than in Alaska and Washington.
    Alaska harvests roughly 60 percent of America's seafood. Seattle 
serves as the Nation's seafood capital, connecting fishermen, 
processors, shipyards, ports, and exporters to markets around the 
world. Together, Alaska and Washington anchor a seafood supply chain 
that supports harvesters, processors, truckers, shipyards, exporters, 
and maritime workers across the country.
    Just a few weeks ago, I was in China meeting with business leaders 
and government officials. During one dinner in Shanghai, I was served 
geoduck harvested from Puget Sound. Less than 48 hours earlier, it had 
been in the waters of Washington State. Before tariffs disrupted that 
market, geoduck was selling for more than $100 dollars per pound.
    That is the blue economy. It is Washington shellfish growers, 
fishermen, ports, processors, truck drivers, exporters, and maritime 
workers connected to customers around the world. Washington exports 
more than $1 billion dollars in seafood annually. Our maritime sector 
supports more than 170,000 jobs and generates nearly $46 billion 
dollars in economic activity each year. The question before us today is 
whether we are creating the conditions necessary for that economy to 
grow?
    A thriving blue economy requires three things: science, 
infrastructure, and a strong maritime workforce. It starts with 
science. Fishermen cannot fish sustainably without accurate and timely 
information on the health of fish stocks. Regional fishery managers 
cannot make sustainable decisions without stock assessments. Coastal 
communities cannot plan for the future without reliable ocean 
observations, weather forecasting, and scientific data.
    Yet at the very moment the Administration says it wants to grow the 
Blue Economy, it is reducing the scientific capacity that underpins it. 
The President's Fiscal Year 2027 budget proposal would cut NOAA by 
roughly $1.6 billion dollars--nearly 27 percent--while eliminating 
entire programs such as Sea Grant, the Integrated Ocean Observing 
System, Coastal Zone Management Grants, and NOAA's research arm, the 
Office of Oceanic and Atmospheric Research.
    The consequences are real. Stock assessments and surveys are 
already being delayed or cancelled. That means fishing seasons become 
harder to plan, stock assessments become less reliable, and managers 
have less information to keep fisheries open and sustainable. 
Businesses struggle to make investments when the Federal government 
cannot provide the scientific information needed to support management 
decisions.
    A thriving Blue Economy also requires modern infrastructure. That 
means resilient ports, working waterfronts, seafood processing 
facilities, navigation systems, and shipyards capable of building and 
maintaining the vessels our economy depends on. Programs like the Port 
Infrastructure Development Program have helped modernize ports across 
the country and strengthened supply chains. Continued investment in 
maritime infrastructure is essential if America intends to compete 
globally. But ports and shipyards alone do not create maritime 
capacity. We also need policies that support long-term investment in 
American vessels and American mariners.
    That is why I am concerned about the Administration's unprecedented 
150-day Jones Act waiver. The Administration said this waiver was 
needed to move energy products more quickly, ease supply disruptions, 
and help lower fuel costs. Yet after nearly five months, there is 
little evidence of meaningful savings at the pump.
    What we are seeing instead is growing uncertainty throughout the 
maritime industry. Shipyard investments are being delayed. Vessel 
orders are being reconsidered. Domestic operators are losing work to 
foreign competitors. At least one planned $1 billion dollar maritime 
capital raise has reportedly been halted, and more than $2.6 billion 
dollars in active shipyard contracts are now at risk.
    That should concern anyone who is serious about rebuilding American 
shipbuilding capacity. Shipyards and vessel operators make investment 
decisions over decades, not months.
    When the rules governing the domestic maritime market become 
uncertain, companies delay vessel orders, postpone expansion plans, and 
think twice before making long-term investments in American shipyards. 
I agree with the Administration's goal of restoring American maritime 
dominance. But maritime dominance is not achieved through uncertainty. 
It is achieved through investment.
    We cannot ask companies to build ships in America while 
simultaneously undermining confidence in the laws that sustain the 
market for those very ships. We cannot rebuild American shipyards with 
one hand while weakening the laws that support them with the other.
    I support the Administration's goal of growing American 
shipbuilding, strengthening our maritime workforce, and expanding 
domestic seafood production. But those goals require consistency. If 
America wants to remain a global maritime leader, we must invest in the 
science that supports our fisheries, the infrastructure that moves our 
commerce, and the industrial base that builds and crews our vessels.
    That is how we grow a $511 billion-dollar blue economy. That is how 
we compete with China. And that is how we secure America's maritime 
future.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

    Senator Cantwell. But I wanted to ask about the Jones Act 
since we have a temporary waiver on the Jones Act which creates 
a little more uncertainty. I was very pleased that the MARAD 
director and our Transportation Secretary all want to have a 
very aggressive a shipbuilding agenda for the Nation and that 
they want us to be more active in the kind of capacity we have 
for investments in vessels, shipyards, workforce training, 
ports, and maritime infrastructure.
    So I wanted to know specifically from you, Mr. Heil, if the 
waiver is extended again, what would that mean for investments 
in shipyards and workforce development. Does it create 
uncertainty? What should--how should we communicate about this?
    Mr. Heil. Senator, thank you for the question. The current 
waiver has created a tremendous amount of uncertainty. Now at 
150 days, which is unprecedented amount of time, to be extended 
again would be another signal to the investment community and 
the companies like ours and to mariners that the Jones Act is 
unstable and investment will flee.
    Our U.S. mariners will wonder, will they have jobs? You 
know, this budget request for Fiscal Year 2027 includes a large 
investment in the Merchant Marine Academy, which is sorely 
needed. But without the Jones Act, we don't need a Merchant 
Marine Academy frankly. It's hard to see why that investment 
would be moving forward. The Jones Act supports the jobs from 
the Merchant Marine Academy. Those go into our commercial 
mariners, into the U.S. military. They're critical, and the 
Jones Act is the foundation for all of that.
    So when you talk about an extended waiver, it would be 
extremely damaging to every part of the U.S. maritime industry.
    Senator Cantwell. Well, we certainly don't want that. We 
certainly want a very strong Jones Act, and we certainly want a 
very strong shipbuilding. Are there other specific investments 
that you think we should be looking at that would help the 
workforce development and accelerate shipbuilding in the U.S.?
    Mr. Heil. On the workforce side, there are a lot of, we 
think, very good ideas that we support in the SHIPS Act. You 
know, on the mariner recruitment side, we need to do a better 
job there. For a lot of high school kids, they go to their high 
school counselor and hear about all the service academies, but 
don't hear about the Merchant Marine Academy. That needs to 
change. They need to know about our State academies, and it 
needs to be a countrywide effort, not just on the coasts. Folks 
in the middle of the country need to understand that these are 
good jobs, good high-paying jobs, and they need to have access 
to that.
    On the shipbuilding side, there's a lot we can do. I 
mentioned earlier in the hearing perhaps a tax incentive for 
folks, for companies that put cargo on U.S. built ships. That 
would be one way to drive demand for U.S. built vessels because 
that cargo has to go on U.S. built ships.
    There's also various ideas about--these would be more in 
the trade negotiation realm, but requiring certain percentage 
of imports or exports from countries like China that they be 
put on U.S. flagged vessels. That would be a tremendous help in 
allowing U.S. companies and U.S. flagged vessels to compete in 
markets where we're excluded from right now.
    Senator Cantwell. Well, I like that last idea because this 
committee passed in response to the COVID pandemic and the fact 
that international trade vessels were leaving U.S. products on 
the dock. They literally, they were just coming here and 
dropping stuff off and running back, not even taking product 
back with them. And that led us to passing a reform to the 
Federal Maritime Commission and new tools to ensure that we 
were getting access and trade.
    But this is an additional requirement, and I think the 
change, you know, Mr. Chairman, in the landscape--both the 
COVID pandemic showed us, but now the interest in the Pacific 
writ large has shown us that the United States needs to 
strengthen its capacity. And to do that, we have to strengthen 
our shipbuilding capacity. I think I see both of my colleagues 
nodded when you talked about the workforce, because they know--
they know that there are young people in our states that would 
love to know there are six-figure welding jobs right out of 
high school.
    Somebody's nodding in the audience there, and they're like, 
yes, let us know, where are those? And so we can be training 
and skilling at the high school level young people who want 
those six-figure jobs. We could be doing that right now. Some 
in my state, in Kitsap County, which is a very big maritime--we 
have military bases there and a huge Navy population--they do 
train and skill for this.
    But we need--as you just said, it needs to be everywhere in 
the United States if we want to get the capacity for these 
young people. But again, I thank the two of you for holding 
this hearing, and I'll take any comments for the record about 
the tariffs. But, you know, I don't know what the number is. 
Some big part--is it 80 percent of our economy comes out of the 
coastal states? Well, it's a big number. It's a big number of 
our economy comes out of coastal states.
    So, glad you're having this hearing and glad we continue to 
focus on this. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you. Senator Blunt Rochester.
    Senator Blunt Rochester. Thank you, Mr. Chairman for a 
round two, and I know votes were just called, so I'm going to 
try to be succinct. I want to follow up on the whole 
conversation about workforce, because I think, you know, when 
we look at general--we have generally workforce challenges, but 
to reshore cranes, to build new ships, to do all the repairs 
and the improvements to port infrastructure, we need people to 
do those jobs. And the Department of Labor estimates that the 
shipbuilding industry alone may require 200,000 or more 
additional workers to satisfy demand.
    I'm going to ask the question to Mr. Sheridan and Mr. Heil, 
and others can join in as well. But we know this affects our 
competitiveness. So can both of you talk a little bit about the 
strategy for how we deal with these workforce shortages? I know 
the administration has a strategy to address it, if you want to 
talk about that. I know you focused on K through 12, and we've 
also talked about the Merchant Marine Academies.
    So I'll start with you, Mr. Sheridan, if you could talk 
about how do we deal with our workforce shortages in this 
industry, and then I'll turn to you, Mr. Heil.
    Mr. Sheridan. Thank you, Ranking Member Blunt Rochester, 
for the question. Certainly, I was all about K through 12 there 
in my comments and we do believe that's an opportunity. We've 
been involved in Alaska with the mariculture funding that we've 
discussed, really working to engage middle school students with 
Science Olympiad, high school students with Teaching Through 
Technology, but then also really intentionally partnering with 
CTE programs and traditional community colleges.
    And so, you know, for fisheries and mariculture in Alaska, 
there are two programs that kind of stand out: Prince William 
Sound College in Valdez, University of Alaska Southeast Sitka 
campus's Applied Fisheries program. But for shipbuilding, we do 
have shipbuilding in the state as well, and UAS Ketchikan's 
campus is involved there. And I would hope that--I haven't been 
involved with----
    Senator Sullivan. I was just there, it's a really 
impressive program.
    Mr. Sheridan. It is a great program. So I've not been 
involved with it, but I would hope that they are--they are 
really starting as young as they possibly can because that is 
our near future workforce. The work that we've been doing with 
students in Cordova, for example, those kids are already in the 
workforce. Our 14-year-old son is participating in a setnet 
salmon commercial fishery. Today was the first day of the 
fishery. And so they start them young in Alaska. And so I think 
that we should start training them young as well.
    Senator Blunt Rochester. That's the pipeline. And I'll come 
back to you. Just wanted to clarify, we talked a lot about 
public-private partnerships and want to make sure that the 
resources are there to continue that good work. I'm going to 
turn to Mr. Heil if you could talk as well about the workforce.
    Mr. Heil. So critical issue, obviously in lots of different 
areas. I think part of it is replicating models that work for 
workforce training and skill training, developing high school 
curriculums around certain skill sets. That's something that 
we're doing in Jacksonville right now. I think we'll announce 
soon that our partnership there to do that on the mariner side, 
and it's the same for the shipbuilding sector.
    I know some of the--some of the companies have great 
partnerships with Job Corps centers and community colleges to 
develop workers, to bring them in, get their skills up to a 
certain level, and hire them. And again, it goes back to 
awareness. We have to do a better job as a country of making 
sure young people understand that these opportunities exist and 
where they are and how do they access them.
    Senator Blunt Rochester. I will ask for the record 
questions on port equipment as well as emerging technologies 
like robotics and artificial intelligence.
    But I did want to ask each of you, if you could be very 
succinct, to tell me what is the one thing that's keeping you 
up at night and what is the one thing that you want us to make 
sure we tackle? Try one. I know it's very hard because there 
are a lot of things that we discussed here. Who would like to 
go first? OK, Mr. Woodrow.
    Mr. Woodrow. I'll be very succinct. We need to modernize 
our industry. We need to catch up to the rest of the world.
    Senator Blunt Rochester. That's it. And what do you want us 
to do?
    Mr. Woodrow. Well, you mentioned AI, you mentioned 
automation. I'll just share a very quick story. A couple of 
years ago, I was touring a processing plant in Spain, and that 
processing plant had four robots working the line. The two 
robots in the front were so darn efficient at their jobs, the 
other two robots didn't have a job.
    Senator Blunt Rochester. Wow.
    Mr. Woodrow. We don't have a single plant like that in 
Alaska.
    Senator Blunt Rochester. Wow. Thank you. Who's next? All 
right, Mr. Sheridan.
    Mr. Sheridan. I'll keep it quick and I'll stick with the 
same thing. When we're talking about these technologies, 
automation, integrating AI into seafood processing 
technologies, I do think that we should start young. And so 
I'll just share an example. We brought middle school students 
to Fairbanks for a Science Olympiad event. They were introduced 
to funders and received thousands of dollars to 3D print their 
own drones, and they're now developing their own skills and 
experience there. So these young people have a lot of 
potential, and I think it's important to engage with them.
    Senator Blunt Rochester. Excellent. And Mr. Wardwell.
    Mr. Wardwell. Yes, I've spent a lot of my career trying to 
bring geospatial services to communities throughout Alaska that 
are underserved so that Crowley can deliver goods and seafood 
can get out of them and get into them. And so bringing--making 
sure there's legislation for private industry to be involved 
with bringing those services and funding those opportunities.
    Senator Blunt Rochester. Great, thank you. And Mr. Heil.
    Mr. Heil. My biggest concern right now is the Jones Act 
waiver and what it's doing to U.S. shipping and U.S. maritime 
industry. And in terms of what we would like, you know, see 
Congress do is to encourage the administration to end the 
current waiver. And if there has to be a waiver, use the 501(b) 
process, which is the process that is when waivers are needed, 
that's the process that's known to U.S. maritime and does not 
cause the damaging effects of the current waiver.
    Senator Blunt Rochester. Great. Thank you. And I yield 
back.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you, Senator Blunt Rochester. And 
there's a vote called, so I'm going to ask one more round. But 
I want to thank you for engaging in this hearing with so many 
of my constituents. It's great. And I really appreciate your 
involvement and engagement. So I'm going to--I'm going to do 
one more--one more quick round.
    Mr. Heil, I haven't asked you a question, and it's about an 
opportunity, something I've thought about a lot. I don't know 
how you would do it, but I think it has a great opportunity. 
I'm a big supporter of the energy sector, and you know, we have 
this real big boom, which is great for America, great for the 
world, and the production of natural gas and even the export of 
natural gas.
    In Alaska, we're trying to get a--we're close. We've never 
been this close to get this very large-scale LNG project and 
Alaska pipeline, gas pipeline, off the--off the ground and into 
development. We've been trying to work on that. We've been 
trying to get that done for about 50 years, and we might be 
getting there. We are definitely getting there.
    So my question is this. You mentioned mandating American 
cargo on vessels. I've always thought about one way to get our 
shipbuilding off the ground. Not sure the oil and gas sector 
likes this idea, but to mandate a certain amount. We are 
exporting LNG all over the world and it's going to continue. 
And if this Alaska project gets done, that'll be the biggest 
LNG project in America, maybe in the world. We're the logical 
place. It's a six-day cargo shipment from the Kenai Peninsula 
to Tokyo. We were the first place in the world to start 
exporting LNG to Asia. We started doing that in the late 1960s 
from Cook Inlet.
    So my question is, would it make sense to mandate a certain 
amount of American cargoes or percentage of LNG to be from 
American-made ships as this industry is really, really taking 
off and has explosive growth? And I'm talking the American LNG 
natural gas industry. What's your thought on that? Have you 
thought about that one?
    Mr. Heil. It certainly could. And I think that is a concept 
that's in the SHIPS Act currently. So, yes, I think that 
requiring that a certain amount of exports of LNG be 
transported on U.S. built vessels----
    Senator Sullivan. Can we build those vessels, though?
    Mr. Heil. Yes.
    Senator Sullivan. A lot of people say, oh, we can't do it. 
We don't have the capability. Only the Koreans can do it. Only 
the Chinese. And I'm like, well, actually, we do have the 
capability to build sophisticated ships. Go look at the latest 
American submarine or the American aircraft carrier. Those are 
the most sophisticated ships on the planet Earth, and we 
Americans build them. So can we build LNG ships?
    Mr. Heil. Senator, I'm not a shipbuilder, but, you know, 
from what I've observed, yes, we can. It will just take time. 
You know, an LNG vessel is probably the most complicated 
commercial vessel that is--that is constructed----
    Senator Sullivan. Not as complicated as a Boomer-class 
submarine, though.
    Mr. Heil. No, I mean, that's a different scale on the 
defense side. But on the commercial side, it's very 
complicated. We can do it. It'll just--it will take some time 
and training, but it's something we can do in this country.
    Senator Sullivan. And it's an opportunity, right?
    Mr. Heil. It is an opportunity.
    Senator Sullivan. Our LNG capacity has really increased, 
and it's great for the economy, great for--and again, we're 
trying to get this Alaska one off the ground.
    Mr. Woodrow, I want to come back to you. I was honored to 
be at the inaugural meeting of the Secretary of the Department 
of Agriculture, joined by the Secretary of Commerce, joined by 
the Secretary of Interior, joined by the White House National 
Economic Council Chairman and me, when we announced the Office 
of Seafood Policy at USDA. Again, that's something I've been 
working on for--on that one for 10 years, and we finally got it 
done.
    I have legislation on it. We're going to follow up on that. 
But as you know, we got legislation of mine passed last year to 
fund that office, and now the administration is fully behind 
it. The launch of this was--you don't normally get half the--
well, it wasn't half, about a third of the cabinet of any 
administration to launch something. So it was a big deal.
    How important is that from your perspective, some of the 
initiatives that the Secretary announced that I've been working 
on to essentially enable our fishing communities, our 
fishermen, our coastal communities to have access to analogous 
programs that American farmers have that de-risk their 
operations? We love our American farmers, but they have 
billions and billions of dollars of programs that enable them 
to limit their risk, crop insurance and export capabilities 
when markets close.
    How important is that Office of Seafood Policy at USDA and 
what would be the most important programs we should do for our 
fishermen that American farmers already have?
    Mr. Woodrow. Thank you, Senator Sullivan. As you said, 
we've been chasing this for decades now. And I've, you know, 
kind of joked that we're like a dog chasing a car. Now we 
finally caught it, we aren't sure exactly what to do with this 
car, but we're figuring it out really fast. And we're very 
thankful for the work you've done. And this administration for 
establishing this Office of Seafood.
    Senator Sullivan. Did you see when we launched it? It was 
quite a big deal.
    Mr. Woodrow. It was excellent. And being able to bridge the 
gap that we've had between NOAA, where we manage our fisheries, 
to USDA, where our fish becomes food. That's where seafood 
actually happens when it enters into USDA----
    Senator Sullivan. And they have--I mean, it's no 
exaggeration, their programs for farmers are in the hundreds of 
billions of dollars. And again, we love our farmers. They get a 
lot of Federal Government support. The farmers of the sea, 
fishermen of America, don't. And we want them in on those 
programs, and the Secretary of USDA said that was part of her 
goal for that office.
    Mr. Woodrow. Correct. And those programs didn't all happen 
overnight. They happened over periods of time when we addressed 
challenges to our farmers. And we could also argue that, you 
know, our fishermen face even more challenges, right?
    Senator Sullivan. Yes.
    Mr. Woodrow. The volatility of our markets were at, you 
know, the whims of Mother Nature when it comes to returns of 
our seafood.
    Senator Sullivan. Yes.
    Mr. Woodrow. And so having those protections, having those 
assurances to allow them to have, you know, some sort of 
certainty that they can fish today and fish tomorrow is really 
important. So being able to take advantage and actually enter 
into--we aren't--what we are asking is not to, you know, 
replace our farmers and those programs----
    Senator Sullivan. No, no, no.
    Mr. Woodrow.--just be a part of it and have those same 
assurances.
    Senator Sullivan. Well, maybe for the record on this 
hearing, you can submit to this committee some of the areas 
that you would like to have prioritized, because it is a great 
opportunity. And again, I've been working on trying to get that 
done for almost a decade, and it was a real satisfying day when 
we--when we did it.
    So, Mr. Sheridan, why don't we come back to you? You know, 
I'm a huge UAF fan, so important to Alaska, so important to our 
economy. So the Blue Economy Center that you had brings 
together universities, industries, entrepreneurs, communities 
across Alaska.
    Can you share examples of public-private partnerships with 
universities and others that you believe are successful in 
creating blue economy opportunities, either in Alaska, or maybe 
there's something you've seen in the lower 48, or like overseas 
in Europe, that looks good that maybe we can emulate with that 
public-private partnership model?
    Mr. Sheridan. Thank you, Chairman Sullivan. I'm happy to 
have this opportunity to talk a little bit about work that 
we've done with the City of Valdez. And so----
    Senator Sullivan. When you say you, you're talking about 
UAF?
    Mr. Sheridan. UAF. It's a broad consortium. I'll go back to 
just describing a little bit of the origins for what became the 
Alaska Mariculture Cluster, the $49 million EDA Build Back 
Better Challenge Award grant. That was really instigated by and 
supported by a broad group of Alaskans. The City of Valdez 
offered up a $6 million match that really made that possible. 
And so I just wanted to acknowledge that. With mariculture 
again----
    Senator Sullivan. The city put up--so the city had skin in 
the game? $6 million?
    Mr. Sheridan. $6 million.
    Senator Sullivan. Wow. Significant.
    Mr. Sheridan. Yes. And that just--that opened up 
opportunity for everyone across the state. Again, with 
mariculture in Alaska, we're talking about kelp farming and 
shellfish fish farming. But UAF is the State's land grant 
institution. The Institute of Agriculture and Natural Resources 
Extension, IANRE, is our agency that meets that mission. And 
the interesting thing about mariculture, kelp farming in 
particular, as we're talking about USDA, is the potential for 
impact on agricultural markets.
    And so for kelp in particular, there's the potential for 
large volume of production to support the development of 
livestock feeds and the development of soil applications. So I 
just think that's an interesting example of where, you know, a 
municipal-university relationship supported industry 
development in the state in ways that we could potentially move 
the needle for the United States agricultural sector.
    Again, we have more coastline than the rest of the lower 48 
combined. That's a whole lot of space to grow a whole lot of 
kelp, and those are some pretty big markets.
    Senator Sullivan. Good, great. Good answer. Let me end, I 
will just do one more question for Mr. Wardwell. You know, I 
think it surprises a lot of people, your testimony, that Alaska 
still has large areas that are still uncharted in terms of the 
waters, your point about the moon being mapped, it's really an 
interesting one. It's kind of crazy, to be honest.
    What risks does that create for commerce, navigation, 
economic development, national security, when we have such 
large parts of our coastal area in Alaska and the rest of the 
country? But I think it's really acute in Alaska. Where we have 
areas that are still uncharted?
    Mr. Wardwell. Yes, thank you for the question. It creates a 
major risk. There could be navigation hazards in those 
uncharted areas.
    Senator Sullivan. You mean like a ship running into a rock?
    Mr. Wardwell. For example, you know, yes, ship run into a 
rock, that could create you know, loss of life and property. 
We're having--you know, trying to have recovery of those 
vessels, you know, Coast Guard out in the area, it's a massive 
region. Just delivering commerce, you know, having efficient 
routes for shipping and navigation and understanding our 
resources, right? So if we don't know what's down there, how 
can we manage that and use those uncharted areas.
    Senator Sullivan. Good. Well, thank you. Well, listen, we 
have a vote right now I'm going to head off to, but I really 
want to thank the witnesses for their testimony today and the 
Q&A. The hearing record here will remain open until the close 
of business Tuesday, June 9--that's a week from today--for 
other Senators or those of us like myself who want to submit 
additional questions for the record. We would respectfully 
request the witnesses to be able to answer those questions by 
close of business Tuesday, June 23.
    And otherwise, I want to thank the witnesses, 
particularly--well, everybody, but my fellow Alaskans who flew 
thousands of miles to come here to D.C. to testify. I think 
it's very enlightening. We had a good group of Senators here. 
It's a great topic and a great opportunity for not just Alaska, 
but for America. And it's very bipartisan, as you can see. And 
the more we highlight this and have the good ideas that all of 
you bring to it, the more we can take advantage of it, 
legislate on it in a positive way.
    So I want to thank all of you again. This is an exciting 
topic with a lot of potential, and you guys have all put a 
bunch of brainpower and thought and action into it, and we 
really appreciate it. So with that, I'm going to conclude this 
hearing. The Committee stands adjourned.
    [Whereupon, at 11:37 a.m., the hearing was adjourned.]

                            A P P E N D I X

    Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Roger Wicker to 
                             Tommy Sheridan
National Sea Grant Program
    Federal investments in ocean research at universities is an 
essential precursor to developing new technologies that support better 
ocean sensing, data collection, and fisheries information. The National 
Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Sea Grant program is a 
Federal-University partnership program that advances science for 
coastal communities. For over 50 years, the National Sea Grant College 
program has supported coastal communities through research, extension, 
and education. The National Sea Grant Law provides nationally 
recognized legal research, education and outreach that strengthens 
understanding of the legal frameworks governing our oceans, coastal, 
and freshwater resources.

   How does the Sea Grant program support the Blue Economy and 
        how can we ensure that we are fully utilizing Federal 
        investments in the Sea Grant program?
    Answer. Senator Wicker, thank you for the opportunity to contribute 
to this process, and for the opportunity to answer your questions. 
These answers, along with my written testimony, and previous oral 
comments, are provided to you through my personal capacity as a private 
citizen, as a parent to two Alaskan schoolchildren, and as a resident 
of coastal Alaskan communities for the past 24 years.
    On a national scale, thirty-four universities participate in the 
National Sea Grant Program, which as you note is a federal-state 
partnership that provides critical services to a wide range of 
residents in every coastal and Great Lakes state, and U.S. territories. 
The Sea Grant program supports the Blue Economy in a variety of ways, 
including creating and sustaining local jobs and a skilled workforce 
through training and new business support; providing planning services 
and technical advice to businesses; strengthening the domestic U.S. 
seafood supply chain through seafood workforce development and safety 
training; and supporting coastal communities and businesses in 
responding to storms, flooding and erosion.
    With imported seafood making up 90 percent of American seafood 
consumption, I believe that our Nation should be focusing on programs 
to expand and improve our domestic wild capture fisheries and 
aquaculture industry. The Sea Grant is a program that does just that--
helping fishermen and mariculture (shellfish and seaweed) farmers 
navigate a complex patchwork of state and Federal coastal zone 
management regulations through technical assistance. Sea Grant works 
with local harvesters and producers to grow and sustain their business 
models while connecting them to local resources to share best 
practices.
    The economic impact of the National Sea Grant Program highlights 
the benefit of this Federal investment. According to 2024 performance 
metrics of the program, Sea Grant contributed to creating and 
sustaining 21,520 jobs and 2,076 businesses. On top of business and job 
creation, Sea Grant logged 336,000 volunteer hours in 2024. Further, 
Sea Grant contributed $1.59 billion in economic benefit, representing a 
12:1 impact for every Federal dollar invested in the program ($94 
million).
    Alaska Sea Grant, which is housed at the University of Alaska 
Fairbanks (UAF), provides marine education, research, and technology 
transfer to the public with support from the National Oceanic and 
Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). Alaska Sea Grant support for the 
seafood harvesting sector includes providing beginning and established 
seafood harvesters with resources, consulting, and hands-on training. 
Workshops supported by the Alaska Sea Grant FishBiz team cover skills 
that support robust careers in Alaska's fishing industry. Programs 
include the AK On-Board Crew Class, Alaska Young Fishermen's Summit, 
Business of Fishing workshops, direct seafood marketing courses, and 
AMSEA (Alaska Marine Safety Education Association) safety courses.
    Alaska Sea Grant's seafood processing sector support includes 
consultation services, product development and testing, and training. 
Workshops help seafood processing businesses attain food and process 
safety certification, and build workforce capacity to ensure a 
competitive Alaskan seafood industry. Our programs include Hazard 
Analysis Critical Control Point (HACCP) safety training, seafood 
processor supervisor training, and the Alaska Seafood Processing 
Leadership Institute.
    Alaska Sea Grant also supports kelp and shellfish mariculture 
businesses with resources and workshops for business planning, site 
permitting, and applying growing and harvesting methods and technology. 
Programs include kelp business planning and marketing workshops, kelp 
farming operations train-the-trainers, Alaska seaweed handling and 
processing workshops, kelp hatchery operations and oyster hatchery 
operations workshops, and the annual Mariculture Conference of Alaska.
    In 2023, it is estimated that Alaska Sea Grant's work resulted in 
over $52 million in economic benefit to the state, thanks to a Federal 
investment of $1.9 million (27:1!). Alaska Sea Grant workforce 
development, training, and technical support activities supported 559 
jobs, 183 businesses, and 9,472 professionals trained in 2023.
    Here in Prince William Sound, where I live, we are grateful for our 
Alaska Sea Grant Marine Advisory Program specialists in Cordova and 
Valdez. As is true for all of Alaska Sea Grant employees throughout the 
state, these employees are valued members of our communities, providing 
essential education and training opportunities for residents of all 
ages and occupations. They are commercial fishermen, small business 
owners, volunteers, and public servants working alongside and with 
community members to ensure that Alaska's Blue Economy thrives.

   Can you comment on the value added to fisheries and coastal 
        economies through collaboration with universities and their 
        researchers?
    Answer. Although I provide these answers in my personal capacity, I 
also currently serve as the Director for the Alaska Blue Economy Center 
(ABEC) at the University of Alaska Fairbanks (UAF). ABEC is housed 
administratively in the university's College of Fisheries and Ocean 
Sciences, or CFOS, where our world-class faculty educates future 
leaders in fisheries and marine science, while addressing pressing 
issues in aquatic ecosystems from the Arctic to Antarctica. ABEC's role 
is to connect capacities throughout the University of Alaska, including 
CFOS, with problems, needs, and opportunities relating to the state's 
blue economy. I have over two decades of experience living and working 
throughout and alongside Alaska's Blue Economy, with experience as a 
hatchery manager in the state's private nonprofit salmon fishery 
enhancement program, as a fishery manager for the State of Alaska 
Department of Fish and Game, in addition to roles in the seafood 
processing sector, most recently serving in a variety of capacities in 
academia. These deeply rooted perspectives are not unique among 
university researchers--many of my colleagues grew up fishing in 
Alaska, whether as commercial, subsistence, or recreational fishers--
with many having been born and raised in coastal Alaskan communities.
    Alaska's seafood industry continues to be one of Alaska's most 
important economic drivers, contributing about 7 percent to Alaska's 
gross domestic product (GDP), generating over $5 billion in economic 
activity, and supporting more than 41,800 jobs. Alaskan seafood 
harvests account for roughly 63 percent of total U.S. seafood landings, 
producing more wild-caught seafood than all other states combined. 
Universities, particularly the University of Alaska (UA) system, 
including Alaska Sea Grant, anchors and supports the state's seafood 
industry by providing essential workforce training, innovative food 
safety certifications, and research and development in emerging 
opportunities such as mariculture.
    Through initiatives such as the Fisheries, Seafood and Maritime 
Initiative (FSMI), and the Alaska Mariculture Workforce Development 
Plan, universities align degree and certificate programs with industry 
and community needs. At ABEC, one of our priorities has been to support 
K-12 workforce awareness and development to prepare our youngest 
students for transition into the workplace, ideally in partnership with 
the state's community-based campuses where dual credit programs allow 
high school students to earn college credit while developing relevant 
and marketable skills, earning certificates and occupational 
endorsements along the way, with the potential of earning an 
Associate's degree simultaneous to their traditional high school 
diploma. These students are then adequately prepared for direct entry 
into the workforce, or can pursue additional education in traditional 
university programs, such as those available at UAF CFOS, albeit with a 
different skillset than is common among entry-level undergraduate 
students. Prince William Sound College in Valdez, Alaska, is a notable 
Alaskan example whereby local high school students can learn from 
renowned instructors in areas such as Construction Skills, Marine 
Services Technology, Millwright, Natural Resources Technician, Marine 
Natural Resources Technician, and Outdoor Leadership. Another notable, 
relevant, and highly innovative Alaskan program is the Applied 
Fisheries Program at the University of Alaska Southeast's Sitka Campus, 
where students are immersed in the exciting and emerging fields of 
aquaculture and mariculture through their highly regarded Alaska 
Aquaculture Semester.
    Universities provide critical infrastructure in coastal communities 
that are unique to their mission and provide economic cornerstones for 
supporting local and regional industries and businesses. One such 
example in Alaska is the Seward Marine Center (SMC), which is located 
approximately 130 miles south of Anchorage at the head of Resurrection 
Bay. Co-located with the Alaska SeaLife Center and the Alutiiq Pride 
Marine Institute, the Seward campus is a central feature in the 
community of Seward and the broader Kenai Peninsula. Established in 
1970 to support research in fisheries, marine biology and oceanography, 
SMC is one of Alaska's primary docking facilities for marine research 
vessels and has been a driving force both in scientific research and in 
the Seward community.
    UAF's Kodiak Seafood and Marine Science Center (KSMSC) is another 
notable coastal Alaskan asset, providing researchers, students, and 
community and industry members with access to research kitchens, 
biochemistry labs and food labs to test production techniques and 
develop new seafood products. KSMSC staff work closely with the 
industry partners to convey research results and provide educational 
opportunities that help seafood workers improve efficiency and the 
quality of their products. Created by the Alaska Legislature in 1981, 
the mission of KSMSC is to increase the value of Alaska's fishing 
industry and marine resources through research, technological 
development, education, and service.
    Community campuses operate throughout the University of Alaska (UA) 
system, offering accessible, localized degree programs, vocational 
training, and academic support tailored to their specific regions. 
University of Alaska Anchorage (UAA), which is headquartered in 
Anchorage, administers four main community campuses across Southcentral 
Alaska: Kenai Peninsula College in Soldotna, Kodiak College in Kodiak, 
Matanuska-Susitna College in Palmer, and Prince William Sound College 
in Valdez. UAF, which is administered from Fairbanks, operates multiple 
community and rural campuses across the state, including its Bristol 
Bay Campus in Dillingham, Chukchi Campus in Kotzebue, Kuskokwim Campus 
in Bethel, and Northwest Campus in Nome. University of Alaska 
Southeast, with its main residential hub in Juneau, serves Southeast 
Alaska in concert with satellite campuses in Ketchikan and Sitka.
    Ilisagvik College is a public tribal land-grant community college 
in Utqiagvik (formerly Barrow), Alaska. Formally established in 1995, 
the College provides post-secondary academic, career and technical 
education in a learning environment that honors Inupiat culture, 
language, values, and traditions, while developing a well-educated and 
trained workforce who meet the human resource needs of North Slope 
employers and the state of Alaska. Operated by the North Slope Borough, 
a home rule government of the Inupiat, it is the only tribal college or 
university in Alaska, and it is the northernmost accredited community 
college in the United States.
    Collectively, in Alaska and beyond, these coastal university 
facilities and their researchers, students, staff and volunteers, are 
essential engines for coastal and maritime economies. They drive the 
Blue Economy by linking rigorous academic research with practical 
workforce development for traditional and established coastal 
industries, such as fisheries and tourism, while also cultivating and 
developing other emerging opportunities such as marine robotics (and 
ocean technology) and sustainable aquaculture.
    Thank you sincerely for these opportunities to contribute to your 
work, and for the opportunity to serve the State of Alaska, and our 
nation, through these contributions.
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Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Lisa Blunt Rochester to 

                             Tommy Sheridan
Topic: Emerging Technologies
    Question 1. Mr. Sheridan, how can the Federal government better 
support academic institutions that are on the forefront of applying 
emerging technologies to a marine environment?
    Answer. Senator Blunt Rochester, thank you for the opportunity to 
contribute to this process, and for the opportunity to answer your 
questions. These answers, along with my written testimony, and previous 
oral comments, are provided to you through my personal capacity as a 
private citizen, as a parent to two Alaskan schoolchildren, and as a 
resident of coastal Alaskan communities for the past 24 years.
    Personally, I have found the Ocean Research Advisory Panel's (ORAP) 
recommendations for supporting public-private partnerships to advance 
emerging ocean technologies to be among the most compelling advice as 
to how the Federal government can best support academic institutions 
that are on the forefront of applying emerging technologies to a marine 
environment. ORAP advises the Ocean Policy Committee (OPC) and provides 
independent recommendations to the Federal government on matters of 
ocean policy. ORAP membership consists of individuals who represent the 
National Academies of Science, Engineering, and Medicine; individuals 
who represent the views of ocean industries, state, tribal, territorial 
or local governments, and academia, and such other views as the co-
chairs of OPC consider appropriate; and individuals eminent in the 
fields of marine science, marine technology, and marine policy, or 
related fields. The ORAP membership reflects a balance of academic, 
scientific, and geographic interests.
    On May 21, 2026, ORAP reviewed a report providing recommendations 
to the OPC regarding opportunities for leveraging public-private 
partnerships to advance emerging ocean technologies that support 
national ocean research priorities. Supporting advancement of emerging 
ocean technologies in the U.S. via public private partnerships applies 
private sector talent to address national interests that include food 
security, domain awareness, public health, and environmental 
stewardship, while fostering entrepreneurship and positioning U.S. 
companies to be leaders in the global Blue Economy. The report 
identifies challenges and barriers to public-private partnerships and 
makes recommendations for addressing them. The report's appendix 
includes a discussion of examples of technologies that are mature for 
investment. The updated version of the report incorporates the 
perspectives gained from panelists at a previous ORAP meeting who 
discussed some of the challenges and barriers to public-private 
partnerships, as well as examples of successes. At their May 21 
meeting, ORAP adopted the report via unanimous consent, and there were 
no objections. Additional details regarding this report may be accessed 
at https://www.noaa.gov/ocean-research-advisory-panel/orap-public-
meetings (the report itself can be accessed at https://www.noaa.gov/
sites/default/files/2026-05/DRAFT-BOT-Report-for-ORAP-Review-Approve-
May2026.pdf), and I provide its Executive Summary here:

        ``The development of public-private partnerships to support 
        emerging observing technologies that monitor ocean 
        biogeochemistry, biology, and ecology is critical for driving 
        the growth of a sustainable ocean economy, supporting national 
        defense and navigation safety, and developing U.S. energy 
        resources and infrastructure. This report identifies challenges 
        and opportunities in developing successful public-private 
        partnerships. Specific examples of emerging technologies that 
        are prime for investment in terms of their application 
        relevance, industry maturity level, and market need and urgency 
        are discussed in the Appendix.

        As acknowledged in Executive Order 13840, the ocean is 
        foundational to the economy, security, global competitiveness, 
        and well-being of the United States. The ocean drives economic 
        growth in coastal communities and supports industries that 
        employ millions, providing essential food, transportation, 
        recreation, and energy security. To sustain these benefits, the 
        order emphasizes modernizing ocean science through partnerships 
        with multiple sectors to inform better decision-making and 
        foster entrepreneurial opportunity. This must include the 
        development of new technologies that enhance our knowledge of 
        coastal and open ocean systems, from surface waters to deep-sea 
        sediments. Public-private partnerships serve as a critical 
        driver for advancing technological development. However, this 
        requires a careful analysis of the challenges that private 
        sector partners face when considering investments and 
        identifying opportunities for state and Federal agencies to 
        enhance collaborations. Building upon the findings from the 
        2019 White House Summit on Partnerships in Ocean Science and 
        Technology (OSTP, 2019), reports from the National Academies of 
        Science, Engineering and Medicine Ocean Studies Board (NASEM 
        2018; 2020; 2021; 2022a; 2022b; 2025), and the 2018 Executive 
        Order Regarding the Ocean Policy to Advance the Economic, 
        Security, and Environmental Interests of the United States (EO 
        13840, 2018), among others, this Ocean Research Advisory Panel 
        (ORAP) report is focused on key challenges in (i) creating 
        opportunities for market growth, and (ii) improving partnership 
        mechanisms. These challenges are discussed below, along with 
        specific recommendations and potential mechanisms to expand 
        opportunities for public-private partnerships that advance 
        emerging ocean technologies. This ORAP recommends that the 
        Administration use or seek the authority to implement the 
        recommendations identified in this report.''

    Thank you sincerely for these opportunities to contribute to your 
work, and for the opportunity to serve the State of Alaska, and our 
nation, through these contributions.
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Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Lisa Blunt Rochester to 

                            Nathan Wardwell
Topic: Emerging Technologies
    Question 1. In what ways are artificial intelligence and robotics 
technology shaping the field of marine observation?
    Answer. Artificial intelligence and robotics are reshaping marine 
observation primarily as force multipliers. They expand what a given 
investment in people and equipment can accomplish.
    The traditional approach to seafloor mapping deploys a crewed 
vessel equipped with acoustic sensors that bounce sound off the 
seafloor to measure water depth and bottom geometry. This method is 
constrained by the number of available vessels and people to operate it 
while at sea for extended periods of time. Artificial intelligence and 
robotics reduce that constraint because a crewed vessel can now operate 
alongside autonomous surface vessels (ASVs) and uncrewed underwater 
vehicles (UUVs), each equipped with their own sensor suites multiplying 
the area mapped in a single deployment. ASVs rely on artificial 
intelligence to operate safely without a crew on board. Artificial 
intelligence provides real-time collision avoidance, route 
optimization, and adaptive response to changing sea conditions. Both 
ASVs and UUVs require sophisticated robotics for the integration of 
propulsion, sensor, and communication hardware.
    Artificial intelligence's role in data processing is also 
increasing. Modern multibeam sonar systems, Light Detection and Ranging 
(LiDAR) sensors, and imaging platforms generate data volumes that make 
manual review impractical at scale. The implementation of artificial 
intelligence for automated feature detection in digital elevation 
models, change detection across time-series datasets and anomaly 
identification significantly reduces processing labor. Reducing the 
time required to extract operationally meaningful information from 
large geospatial datasets increases the number of decisions that can be 
made and improves the speed at which they can be made.

    Question 2. What technology skill gaps are you seeing among the 
workforce that need to be addressed?
    Answer. The technology skill gaps I see in the hydrographic 
services workforce are in artificial intelligence, data science, 
geodesy and robotics.
    Artificial intelligence is becoming embedded in business operations 
across sectors, however for the everyday user in a business gaps remain 
in understanding how artificial intelligence works, how to deploy it at 
scale and to what extent it can be trusted without human supervision. 
In a field where the data products generated inform navigation safety, 
flood forecasting, and resource management decisions trust in the data 
is imperative.
    The mapping industry, both land and water, has undergone a 
fundamental transformation, moving from single stationary sensors to 
multiple different sensors simultaneously on mobile platforms and 
satellite-based signals. Private companies are now building LiDAR 
systems small enough to mount on commercially available drones for 
shallow coastal mapping. They are also building autonomous surface 
vessels capable of extended offshore campaigns with full acoustic 
sensor suites. As the demand for geospatial data from systems like 
these accelerates, we need engineers and scientists with the skills to 
design, build, operate and maintain this technical hardware and 
software at scale.
    Geodesy, the science of precisely measuring and understanding the 
Earth's shape, orientation and gravity field, is foundational to all of 
this. The full value of hydrographic data cannot be realized without 
accurate positioning and accurate positioning requires geodetic 
expertise. Without geodesists, the datum consistency that ties a 
bathymetric survey to a tide gauge to a flood model to a legal boundary 
cannot be maintained.
    Finally, data science. The volume of geospatial data being 
generated by modern survey platforms is well beyond what a team can 
process manually. Leveraging data science tools with artificial 
intelligence to automate processing pipelines, detect features, 
validate data quality, and extract actionable intelligence is becoming 
a baseline operational requirement. Training the existing hydrographic 
workforce in these skills, and building them into entry-level education 
programs, is one of the most high-leverage investments industry and 
government can make together.
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Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Lisa Blunt Rochester to 

                               Clay Heil
Maritime Industrial Base--Port Infrastructure
    Question 1. During a time of investment uncertainty and 
skyrocketing energy costs, the administration also cut millions in 
grants to support the maritime industry in developing offshore wind 
energy. Mr. Heil, does this decision also undermine investment in port 
infrastructure?
    Answer. Reducing or cancelling Federal support for maritime related 
energy projects creates uncertainty for companies, ports, vessel 
operators, shipyards, and equipment suppliers that must make long-term 
capital investments to support those projects. Port infrastructure 
projects require years of planning, permitting, financing, procurement, 
and construction. When Federal policy changes abruptly, it becomes more 
difficult for private companies and public port authorities to justify 
investments that depend on a stable pipeline of cargo, vessels, and 
energy projects.

    Question 2. The administration has proposed replacing most of the 
current Port Infrastructure Development Program funding with a tax on 
foreign vessels. Do U.S. companies have enough confidence in this 
funding scheme to make long-term investments in port infrastructure? 
Will this end up just being a tax on consumer goods?
    Answer. Ports and U.S. companies strongly prefer predictable 
funding streams that allow them to plan for long-term infrastructure 
investments. A funding mechanism dependent on fees assessed against 
foreign vessels would likely provide less certainty because collections 
could vary based on the vessels subject to the fee, the applicable fee 
levels, and changes in carrier behavior.
    Depending on how the fee is structured, carriers may adjust their 
vessel deployments or port calls to avoid or reduce the assessment, 
which could reduce anticipated revenue. It is also possible that some 
or all of the additional costs would be passed through the supply chain 
in the form of higher freight rates for affected voyages.
    The Port Infrastructure Development Program has been extremely 
helpful in expanding and modernizing port capacity, particularly for 
projects that require multi-year planning and private capital 
commitments. Stable and predictable funding streams provide the 
certainty needed to support those investments.

    Question 3. Would a bipartisan process like that in the 
Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA) provide more certainty 
for companies planning to invest in port infrastructure?
    Answer. Multi-year funding authorizations, such as the surface 
transportation reauthorization, provide greater certainty for long-
term, capital intensive projects. Port infrastructure projects often 
require environmental reviews, engineering, dredging, terminal 
upgrades, landside connections, utility work, equipment purchases, and 
coordination among multiple public and private entities.
    A multi-year funding authorization for port infrastructure would 
provide the maritime sector with a clear signal that the Federal 
government views port infrastructure as a national priority. That kind 
of year-over-year stability helps companies make investment decisions, 
hire workers, order equipment, and coordinate with ports and public 
agencies.
Maritime Industrial Base--Port Equipment
    Question 4. Over 70 percent of the world's ship-to-shore cranes are 
made by a Chinese company--ZPMC. Do you believe that there is currently 
a sufficient domestic industry for critical domestic port equipment to 
compete with these Chinese-made cranes?
    Answer. The United States does not currently have a sufficient 
domestic industrial base to compete at scale with Chinese-made ship-to-
shore cranes. Dependence on a single foreign manufacturer creates both 
economic and national security concerns. Ship-to-shore cranes are 
essential pieces of infrastructure at container ports and are not 
easily replaced because of their cost, complexity, and the limited 
number of available manufacturers.
    Both the prior and current Administrations have recognized the 
importance of reducing the risks associated with dependence on foreign 
manufactured port equipment and strengthening domestic maritime 
industrial capacity. Rebuilding this capability, however, will require 
a sustained strategy, long-term investment, and a realistic transition 
plan for ports.

    Question 5. What would be the likely timeline to expand or create a 
domestic supply chain for critical port equipment like these cranes?
    Answer. Crowley is not involved in the manufacture of ship-to-shore 
cranes and, therefore, is not in a position to provide a reliable 
estimate of the time required to establish the necessary domestic 
manufacturing capacity and supply chain. Any realistic timeline would 
need to account for engineering capabilities, component sourcing, 
manufacturing facilities, workforce development, financing, regulatory 
requirements, and sufficient long-term demand to support private 
investment.

    Question 6. In your view, does this administration have an adequate 
strategy for reshoring ship-to-shore crane production in the near term?
    Answer. Crowley is not involved in the manufacture of ship-to-shore 
cranes and, therefore, is not in a position to fully assess the 
adequacy of the Administration's plans to reconstitute production in 
the United States. As a general matter, any successful strategy should 
provide clear and sustained demand signals, support workforce and 
supply chain development, and include a transition plan that allows 
ports to continue obtaining and maintaining the equipment necessary for 
efficient operations.

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