[Senate Hearing 119-446]
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                                                    S. Hrg. 119-446

                       EMPOWERING SENIORS THROUGH
                      FINANCIAL LITERACY: TOOLS TO
                    PROTECT SAVINGS, PREVENT FRAUD,
                        AND PROMOTE INDEPENDENCE
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                                HEARING

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                       SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON AGING

                          UNITED STATES SENATE

                    ONE HUNDRED NINETEENTH CONGRESS


                             SECOND SESSION

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                             WASHINGTON, DC

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                             APRIL 15, 2026

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                       SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON AGING

                     RICK SCOTT, Florida, Chairman

DAVE McCORMICK, Pennsylvania         KIRSTEN E. GILLIBRAND, New York
JIM JUSTICE, West Virginia           ELIZABETH WARREN, Massachusetts
TOMMY TUBERVILLE, Alabama            MARK KELLY, Arizona
RON JOHNSON, Wisconsin               RAPHAEL WARNOCK, Georgia
ASHLEY MOODY, Florida                ANDY KIM, New Jersey
JON HUSTED, Ohio                     ANGELA ALSOBROOKS, Maryland
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                McKinley Lewis, Majority Staff Director
                Claire Descamps, Minority Staff Director
                        
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Opening Statement of Senator Rick Scott, Chairman................     1
Opening Statement of Senator Kirsten E. Gillibrand, Ranking 
  Member.........................................................     3

                           PANEL OF WITNESSES

Christine Kieffer, Senior Director and Interim Head, Office of 
  Investor Education, FINRA, Washington, DC......................     4
Sam Kunjukunju, Vice President of Consumer Education, American 
  Bankers Association Foundation, Washington, DC.................     6
Carly Roszkowski, Vice President of Financial Resilience 
  Programming, AARP, Washington, DC..............................     7
Scott Kahan, CFP, President & Senior Financial Planner, Financial 
  Asset Management Corporation, Chappaqua, New York..............     9

                                APPENDIX
                      Prepared Witness Statements

Christine Kieffer, Senior Director and Interim Head, Office of 
  Investor Education, FINRA, Washington, DC......................    26
Sam Kunjukunju, Vice President of Consumer Education, American 
  Bankers Association Foundation, Washington, DC.................    47
Carly Roszkowski, Vice President of Financial Resilience 
  Programming, AARP, Washington, DC..............................    56
Scott Kahan, CFP, President & Senior Financial Planner, Financial 
  Asset Management Corporation, Chappaqua, New York..............    70

                        Questions for the Record

Sam Kunjukunju, Vice President of Consumer Education, American 
  Bankers Association Foundation, Washington, DC.................    81
Carly Roszkowski, Vice President of Financial Resilience 
  Programming, AARP, Washington, DC..............................    82
Scott Kahan, CFP, President & Senior Financial Planner, Financial 
  Asset Management Corporation, Chappaqua, New York..............    85

                       Statements for the Record

Defense Credit Union Council Statement...........................    89

 
                       EMPOWERING SENIORS THROUGH
                      FINANCIAL LITERACY: TOOLS TO
                    PROTECT SAVINGS, PREVENT FRAUD,
                        AND PROMOTE INDEPENDENCE

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                       Wednesday, April 15, 2026

                                        U.S. Senate
                                 Special Committee on Aging
                                                    Washington, DC.
    The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 3:30 p.m., Room 
SD-216, Hart Senate Office Building, Hon. Rick Scott, Chairman 
of the Committee, presiding.
    Present: Senator Scott, Moody, Husted, Gillibrand, and Kim.

                 OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR 
                      RICK SCOTT, CHAIRMAN

    The Chairman. The U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging 
will now come to order.
    I'd like to start today's hearing by asking you to think 
about someone you love. We all have somebody we love. I would, 
first off, think about our five-year-old granddaughter that 
turns six tomorrow. She's so excited about her birthday. Maybe 
it's a parent, or a grandparent, or even a neighbor you've 
lived down the street from your whole life. Someone who worked 
hard their entire career, did everything they could to set 
themselves up for retirement, with the information available to 
them.
    Now, ask yourself, ask yourself, is that enough? Does that 
person know when the best time to claim their Social Security 
benefits is? Do they know what happens to their monthly check 
if you claim it at 62, versus 67, versus 70? Do they know the 
difference between a Medicare Advantage plan and a Medigap 
supplement? Do they know what questions to ask before handing 
their savings over to a financial planner?
    Chances are, they don't. It's not entirely their fault. For 
so many Americans, and especially our seniors, it's hard to 
find the information. When you do find it, it's often 
incredibly complicated, and it might be biased. As a country, 
we have done a poor job of ensuring people know their options 
and what route will work best for their needs. I wonder how AI 
answers these questions, it will be interesting, and it's 
having real consequences on our seniors' lives.
    Right now, nearly half of older American households earn 
less than what's needed to cover basic living expenses; 
housing, health care, transportation, food, the basics, and 
they've all gone up in cost. Social security, which is about 78 
percent of retirees. What they depend on, only replaces about 
40 percent of pre-retirement income, on average. Sometimes, 
people don't think about that. The math is hard. The reality is 
stark. There's little room for error.
    At the same time, older Americans are being forced to make 
some of the most consequential financial decisions of their 
entire lives; when to retire, when to claim benefits, how to 
draw down savings without outliving them, how to evaluate 
insurance products, how to protect a home and estate. One 
thing, like in our state, people are frustrated. You buy a 
house, and your property insurance keeps going up, or your HOA 
fees. When I was growing up, if you got your house paid off, 
there was almost no other cost.
    These aren't easy questions, and too many seniors are 
answering them alone, without clear guidance, under real 
pressure, and with less of a cushion than they expected. The 
result becomes a guessing game, where they hope for the best, 
and often, fear for the worst but you can't blame them. Too 
often, the resources they are supposed to help people best 
prepare are buried on government websites, written in language 
designed for policy experts, and delivered too late. I just 
learned yesterday, when the FDA does a recall, they just put it 
on a website. That's all they do, so you have no idea. It's 
fascinating. No idea. Who would think that would be a problem?
    The challenges don't stop there. On top of all that, the 
scammers come calling. You know, I get on a daily basis now, 
and I delete it, and I hit send, somebody that has said I'm 
approved for a new credit line. Every day, it's a different 
number. Every day. In 2020, fraud and scam cost older Americans 
nearly five billion. These criminals are not amateurs. They use 
tools like artificial intelligence, voice cloning, government 
impersonation, and more to attack us all. They do their 
homework. They know exactly what to say and exactly how to say 
it. For all the work, they are counting on one thing: that 
nobody ever warned their victim about what to look for. That 
needs to change.
    Financial literacy is one of the most powerful and most 
underused tools we have to protect older Americans, not just 
from fraud, but across the board. When seniors understand how 
their benefits work, they make better decisions. They know how 
to read a financial statement and recognize bad actors. They're 
harder to deceive. When they understand the difference between 
a legitimate investment and a pitch that's too good to be true, 
they protect themselves.
    I got a letter from a Canadian law firm that said they 
think somebody died that was related to me because they had the 
last name, Scott, and they said they would split it with me and 
it was something like eight million, or ten million, or twelve 
million bucks and so, it looked like a nice letterhead from a 
law firm. I looked up. I got on the web, and I looked up the 
law firm. It looked like a legitimate law firm, but they didn't 
have any lawyers.
    When they understand the difference between legitimate 
investment and pitch that's too good to be true, they protect 
themselves. When they know where to turn for trusted help, they 
know they're not navigating this alone and the best part? This 
doesn't require a new government program or more federal 
bureaucracy. It doesn't require more spending to be thrown at 
the problem. It requires clear information, trusted messengers, 
and the commitment to actually get that information to people's 
hands.
    This is exactly what this Committee set out to do, and 
today, I'm proud to announce the upcoming release of our--it's 
from both the ranking member and me. It's a new resource, 
"Guarding Your Nest Egg: A Financial Resource Guide for Older 
Adults." This package will cover the decisions that matter most 
in retirement; Social Security, Medicare, housing, charitable 
giving, disaster preparedness, and planning for the unexpected.
    We also provide clear guidelines as to what a scam looks 
like, and how to guard yourself against them. Plain language 
tools you can actually use. It's available today at 
aging.senate.gov, because every older American in this country 
deserves the tools to protect what they spent a lifetime 
building. Not more red tape, not more bureaucracy, just clear 
information, and the freedom to use it.
    Now, let me turn it over to the ranking member, who's been 
a pleasure to work with on this Committee.

                 OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR 
             KIRSTEN E. GILLIBRAND, RANKING MEMBER

    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you, Chairman Scott.
    I'm very grateful that we're having this hearing today. I'm 
very excited about our report. I think it's going to be great. 
I think people are going to benefit from it and use it. Thanks 
to the witnesses for being here. I appreciate your expertise, 
and your willingness to come help inform this debate so that we 
can hopefully do good things for our seniors and help them.
    April is recognized as National Financial Literacy Month, 
and serves to raise awareness about the importance of financial 
education and income security. Over 11,000 Americans turn 65 
every day, and longer lifespans translate into spending more 
years in retirement, fueling a need to carefully plan and to 
strategically save. These aging demographics also place a 
strain on our national, state, and local budgets, as well as 
our healthcare programs.
    Recently, the President shared that in his estimation, 
"It's not possible to take care of Medicaid and Medicare. They 
can do it on a state basis. You can't do it on the federal 
level." I would like to offer a strong counterargument to this 
statement. Since 1965, when Medicaid and Medicare were signed 
into law for older Americans, the disabled, and people with 
limited resources, the American people have expected these 
programs to be there to help take care of them and their loved 
ones, when they need them.
    Just as government plan, develop, and budget for public 
programs, so do the American people when they're saving for 
their own lives. No matter the circumstance, whether they are 
focused on wealth management, tax strategies, building an 
emergency savings fund, or simply navigating, paying for health 
insurance premiums or skilled nursing costs in retirement, 
Americans are simply doing the best they can to financially 
plan and provide for themselves and their families.
    CDC data shows that approximately 44 percent of adults over 
65 are diagnosed with a disability. However, many people 
struggle to see themselves in these health statistics, or to 
develop a future plan for a special needs adult or child and 
despite individuals finding the time in their busy lives to 
build financial goals, and striving to adopt a commitment to 
savings, the unexpected always happens. Suddenly, you have an 
injury, a loss of a job, or a death in the family, and it could 
be the family's breadwinner, requiring financial stabilization, 
resilience, and a new path forward.
    The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau serves individuals 
who suffer a financial shock, and victims of financial fraud 
and different scams, by providing resources and educational 
materials. We recognize that more needs to be done, 
strategically, to coordinate across government to better 
protect older adults from financial abuse and elder abuse.
    I look forward to hearing from Americans and how they can 
become better empowered to secure their own future through 
enhanced financial competency, and what opportunities exist to 
improve financial and digital literacy in our education system. 
I also welcome your views on how we tackle persistent gaps in 
financial and digital literacy in underserved communities, and 
for women who are frequently responsible for caregiving and 
providing for multigenerational households.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    The Chairman. Thank you, Ranking Member.
    Now, I'd like to welcome our witnesses to join us for 
today's hearing. Our first witness is Christine Kieffer, senior 
director and interim head of FINRA's Office of Investor 
Education. FINRA is the frontline watchdog for America's 
investment markets, responsible for overseeing broker-dealers, 
enforcing the rules that protect investors, and make sure that 
people selling financial products actually meet the standards 
required to do so.
    Christine leads FINRA's investor education mission, where 
they work on developing the tools, resources, and programs that 
help everyday Americans, including older Americans, understand 
their financial options and protect themselves from bad actors.
    Thank you for being here, and please begin your testimony.

        STATEMENT OF CHRISTINE KIEFFER, SENIOR DIRECTOR

              AND INTERIM HEAD, OFFICE OF INVESTOR

                EDUCATION, FINRA WASHINGTON, DC

    Ms. Kieffer. Good afternoon, Chairman Scott, Ranking Member 
Gillibrand, and members of the Committee. My name is Christine 
Kieffer, and I serve as interim head of investor education at 
FINRA. I'm honored to be here to offer insights on the role of 
financial literacy in empowering seniors and preventing fraud.
    FINRA is a self-regulatory organization whose mission is to 
protect investors and preserve market integrity. The member 
firms and associated professionals we oversee are deeply 
committed to the issues discussed today. For older Americans, 
financial literacy is not a luxury. It's an essential set of 
skills needed for building wealth, protecting savings, and 
preserving autonomy. A devastating loss at the hands of a 
scammer can undo a lifetime of work, and severely impact both 
mental and physical health.
    Today, I would like to emphasize three points. Financial 
literacy is protective, it is only part of the solution, and 
success requires a team effort. First, financial literacy is a 
critical buffer against the predictable and unpredictable 
challenges of aging. Individuals with higher financial literacy 
are more likely to have emergency savings, better able to 
manage unexpected costs, and less susceptible to scams. 
Financial literacy matters not only in older age, but as we 
age. To support evidence-based programming, the FINRA 
Foundation undertakes and sponsors research to help 
policymakers and other stakeholders address financial literacy 
gaps.
    Second, financial literacy alone cannot provide adequate 
protection against scams at scale. It must be coupled with 
awareness of specific scams, and a fluency in the tactics of 
persuasion or persuasion literacy. Collectively, these skills 
help individuals defend against emotional manipulation and 
safeguard their assets. To maintain effectiveness, however, 
scam prevention messaging must be widely disseminated and 
frequently, and we must employ other tools, including 
enforcement and regulatory action to protect Americans.
    Third, tackling financial fraud requires a collaborative 
approach. Cybersecurity and fraud threats are often 
sophisticated operations, orchestrated by organized criminals 
across the globe, demanding a unified response. FINRA does its 
part to detect, prevent, and respond to these threats by 
working with a network of collaborators developing and 
distributing fraud prevention resources, and training consumers 
and professionals, including our member firms, law enforcement, 
federal and state regulators, social workers, and mental health 
professionals.
    FINRA's member firms are on the front lines of investor 
protection. As a regulator, we are continuously improving our 
response to evolving threats. Early last year, we launched 
FINRA Forward, a series of initiatives to modernize our 
regulatory approach, including expanding our cybersecurity and 
fraud prevention activities. It also includes making 
enhancements to our rules that assist firms in safeguarding the 
accounts of older and vulnerable adults and in March of this 
year, we launched the Financial Intelligence Fusion Center, 
which is a secure forum where firms can receive and share 
timely, actionable cybersecurity and fraud threat intelligence 
to protect their customers and businesses.
    Our collaboration extends to Congress, too. Last year, we 
hosted a fraud prevention and response training for 
constituent-facing staff. One office contacted us after the 
training to request assistance helping a constituent who was on 
the precipice of being victimized. The caseworker later shared 
that their intervention was successful, and the constituent 
walked away from the scam attempt unharmed.
    Encouraged by this feedback, in May, we will be expanding 
this program with the launch of the Frontline Responders 
Program, a training that will equip congressional offices with 
the expertise to help constituents identify and report fraud, 
and find additional support. FINRA has long been committed to 
protecting senior investors and combating financial fraud. We 
look forward to lending our support to your efforts. Thank you.
    The Chairman. Thank you. Our next witness, Sam Kunjukunju, 
vice president of consumer education at the American Bankers 
Association Foundation. The ABA represents banks of every size 
around the country, and the foundation is dedicated to helping 
Americans build the financial knowledge they need to make smart 
decisions at every stage of life.
    Sam leads their consumer education work, and he understands 
something that doesn't get said enough: banks are often the 
first institution to notice when something has gone wrong for a 
senior customer. Whether it's a sudden wire transfer, an 
unusual withdrawal, or a pattern, that doesn't just add up, 
banks are often the first to notice.
    Thanks for being here. Please begin your testimony.

          STATEMENT OF SAM KUNJUKUNJU, VICE PRESIDENT

            OF CONSUMER EDUCATION, AMERICAN BANKERS

             ASSOCIATION FOUNDATION, WASHINGTON, DC

    Mr. Kunjukunju. Chairman Scott, Ranking Member Gillibrand, 
and members of the Committee, thank you for the opportunity to 
testify at today's hearing. My name is Sam Kunjukunju. As you 
mentioned, I'm the vice president of consumer education at the 
American Bankers Association Foundation, a subsidiary of the 
American Bankers Association, that develops programs to help 
banks support the financial well-being of their customers and 
communities.
    As you noted earlier, America is aging. By 2030, one in 
five people will be aged 65 and older. At the same time, elder 
financial exploitation is rising. Between 2024 and 2025, the 
FBI observed a nearly 60 percent increase in reported financial 
losses, and a 37 percent increase in complaints among older 
people. The FTC estimates losses might have been as high as 
$81.5 billion in 2024 alone among older adults.
    Given this reality, the ABA and the ABA Foundation works 
with banks on a four-pronged strategy to help protect older 
adults. First, educating consumers. Second, training bankers. 
Third, cultivating partnerships with law enforcement and adult 
protective services, and fourth, leveraging technology.
    In 2016, the ABA Foundation launched the Safe Banking for 
Seniors program to equip bankers with tools to educate older 
adults. We provide bankers with presentation, slides, videos, 
handouts, and a variety of different materials to deliver 
community workshops. The program supports older adults and 
their families by focusing on preventing exploitation, 
strengthening financial caregiving, and managing money. It 
covers topics such as avoiding scams, preventing identity 
theft, digital safety matters, choosing a financial caregiver, 
understanding powers of attorney, and retiring with limited 
resources. To date, more than 2,000 banks have participated in 
the program.
    We also collaborate with federal partners such as the FBI, 
the Secret Service, and eight other agencies to produce 
infographics on scams targeting older adults, from check 
washing and cryptocurrency investment scams, to government 
imposter and tech support scams and we run national awareness 
campaigns like Banks Never Ask That, and Practice Safe Checks 
to reinforce simple steps consumers can take to prevent fraud.
    Beyond the consumer education campaigns, we work with 
bankers to recognize, respond to, and report elder financial 
exploitation. We developed an online course for bankers on 
elder financial exploitation prevention and created an Elder 
Fraud Prevention Summit to train bankers on protecting older 
customers. Additionally, we recognize that strong coordination 
with law enforcement and adult protective services is 
essential. We work with the National Adult Protective Services 
Association and convene forums that help banks and 
investigators share trends, improve communication, and partner 
together to combat elder financial exploitation.
    Last, ABA helps banks explore innovative software solutions 
through the ABA Partner Network to strengthen fraud prevention 
efforts. These tools help banks detect suspicious activity, 
streamline reporting, and provide customers with more 
accessible banking experiences.
    Banks across the Nation recognize that protecting older 
adults requires a diverse set of strategies, from large 
institutions to small community banks. Banks are hosting fraud 
prevention workshops, online bank training, financial wellness 
seminars, and coordinating outreach with community 
organizations.
    While the banking industry is investing significantly in 
protecting older people, the scale of today's scams requires a 
strategic, coordinated national response. America needs a 
nationwide education campaign bringing together federal 
agencies, nonprofits, as well as the private sector, to expose 
common scam tactics such as impersonation, manufactured 
urgency, demands for secrecy, and pressure to act quickly. At 
the same time, Congress should consider legislative solutions 
that empower banks to delay transactions when they suspect 
elder financial exploitation. A clear federal standard with an 
appropriate, safe harbor would help financial institutions 
further protect older adults.
    In conclusion, the banking industry is committed to 
protecting older adults through education, partnerships, and 
responsible innovation. With a unified national awareness 
campaign and clear authority to pause transactions when 
suspecting exploitation, we can better prevent fraud and help 
older people preserve the financial security they have worked a 
lifetime to build.
    Thank you for the opportunity to testify at today's 
hearing. I look forward to your questions.
    The Chairman. Thank you, Sam. Now, I'd like to introduce 
Carly Roszkowski, vice president of financial resilience 
programming at AARP. Carly leads AARP's efforts to help seniors 
build real financial resilience, the kind that holds up when 
costs rise, when a scammer calls, or when life throws something 
unexpected at you in retirement. AARP reaches older Americans 
in every congressional district in this country, and she brings 
both the data and the on-the-ground experience to speak to what 
seniors are actually facing.
    Thank you for being here. Please begin your testimony.

         STATEMENT OF CARLY ROSZKOWSKI, VICE PRESIDENT

              OF FINANCIAL RESILIENCE PROGRAMMING,

                      AARP, WASHINGTON, DC

    Ms. Roszkowski. Thank you, Chairman Scott, Ranking Member 
Gillibrand, and members of the Committee for inviting me to 
testify for this timely and important hearing. My name is Carly 
Roszkowski, and I am the vice president of financial resilience 
programming at AARP. We deeply appreciate your attention to the 
important role financial literacy plays in building a more 
secure retirement.
    Financial literacy is foundational to economic security. It 
can help Americans save to afford housing and health care, 
avoid debt and fraud, make informed retirement decisions, and 
remain independent as they age but financial literacy is not 
something that can be one and done. It must happen across one's 
life, especially as we age, when financial decisions become 
more complex and the consequences more severe.
    We live in a new world, where the retirement system has 
shifted risk from companies to workers. Individuals, not 
companies, must manage saving, investing, and turning those 
savings into lifelong income. Folks now have to decide on 
investment strategies, decide when and how to claim Social 
Security, draw down assets with little or no professional 
guidance, and balance that with ever rising living costs and 
unknown lifespans. To make things worse, these decisions often 
occur during major life transitions, retirement, caregiving, 
widowhood, job loss, or health challenges, when people are 
least equipped to absorb complexity or recover from mistakes.
    Today, 64 percent of adults worry they won't have enough 
money to retire, and nearly one in five non-retires has no 
retirement savings at all. Millions of retirees have returned 
to work, primarily because they need the income, though purpose 
does matter, too. Rising costs, longevity, uncertainty, and 
lack of guaranteed income mean this trend will likely continue. 
Work has become a bridge to financial security later in life, 
but that bridge is strongest when people understand the 
financial tradeoffs involved and have access to clear, trusted 
information.
    Financial literacy is also a critical defense against 
fraud. Older adults are disproportionately targeted by 
increasingly sophisticated scams that exploit technology, 
urgency, and trust. Fraud is no longer limited to suspicious 
phone calls. It involves email, text messages, social media, 
and artificial intelligence. Without ongoing, accessible 
financial education, even experienced consumers can be 
vulnerable.
    That is why financial literacy for older Americans must go 
far beyond basic lessons on saving or budgeting. It must 
include guidance on managing retirement income, coordinating 
Social Security with work and health costs, understanding 
decumulation, navigating digital financial tools, and 
recognizing and responding to fraud. It must reflect how people 
actually experience finances later in life, not just early in 
their careers.
    Equally important, financial education must be delivered in 
ways that work for older adults. A one-size-fits-all approaches 
are not effective. People vary widely in their comfort with 
technology. Learning styles and access to information programs 
are most effective when they use trusted messengers, plain 
language, and real-world examples.
    At AARP, we see that when older adults have access to 
relevant, trustworthy financial information, outcomes improve. 
People are better able to avoid scams, manage debt, stretch 
their savings, and maintain independence longer. Financial 
literacy is not just an individual benefit. It reduces public 
costs and strengthens families and communities.
    In closing, the realities of longer lives, for some, rising 
costs, and a retirement system that places increasing 
responsibility on individuals demand a renewed focus on 
financial literacy that is practical, ongoing, and actionable. 
By investing in trusted education, decision support tools, and 
policies that reflect how people work and retire today, we can 
help ensure that every American has the knowledge and 
confidence to achieve financial security, independence, and 
dignity as they age. As Congress considers how to strengthen 
financial literacy efforts, we urge you to ensure a lifelong 
approach and ensure older adults needs are a priority.
    Thank you for your leadership and commitment to protecting 
older Americans. I look forward to your questions.
    The Chairman. Thank you, Carly. Now, I'd like to recognize 
Ranking Member Gillibrand to introduce our last witness.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I want to move 
to introduce our next witness, Scott Kahan. Mr. Kahan is a 
certified financial planner, educated and lifelong New Yorker. 
In 1986, Mr. Kahan founded the Financial Asset Management 
Corporation, which operates in Westchester County and New York 
City, and serves as president and senior financial planner.
    He provides pro bono financial planning for those in need, 
regularly organizes college planning seminars for the 
community, and is responsible for the establishment of the 
Certificate in Financial Planning program at NYU. Notably, Mr. 
Kahan spearheaded the coordination of pro bono financial 
planning services for affected 9/11 families and provides 
assistance to individuals who continue to cope with ongoing 
impacts.
    Mr. Kahan, it's your time to speak.

            STATEMENT OF SCOTT KAHAN, CFP, PRESIDENT

          & SENIOR FINANCIAL PLANNER, FINANCIAL ASSET

          MANAGEMENT CORPORATION, CHAPPAQUA, NEW YORK

    Mr. Kahan. Chairman Scott, Ranking Member, Gillibrand, and 
members of the Committee, thank you for the opportunity to 
testify today. My name is Scott Kahan, I'm a certified 
financial planner professional, and for more than 40 years, I 
have worked directly with individuals and families in New York 
to help them build financial security and peace of mind. I 
appreciate the Committee's focus on empowering seniors through 
financial literacy, particularly during Financial Literacy 
Month.
    In both my personal and professional life, I have learned 
that access to trustworthy financial planning improves 
outcomes. Research consistently shows that individuals who work 
with the CFP professional are more likely to have emergency 
savings, feel financially secure, and feel confident about 
their future. Financial planning isn't a luxury, it's a 
lifeline and when it matters most, it needs to come from a CFP 
professional.
    Today's seniors face incredibly complex financial 
decisions, choosing when to claim Social Security, navigating 
Medicare, managing retirement income, and planning for long-
term care, among other challenges. At the same time, seniors 
are being targeted by increasingly sophisticated fraud. 
Advances in AI have made scams more convincing than ever. It 
can be hard to tell what is real.
    When seniors are victimized by fraud, the impact is often 
devastating. Unlike younger victims, seniors frequently do not 
have time or income to recover. Money lost to fraud is money 
they plan to use to support themselves in retirement. The harm 
is immediate, and under the current tax law, victims often face 
a tax bill on those losses, creating a double hit. For many 
seniors, financial fraud is not just a setback, it's permanent.
    We should empower seniors with clear information, 
trustworthy guidance, and tools to protect themselves in an 
increasingly complex financial landscape. Financial security 
supports independence, family stability, and dignity in later 
life. Financial literacy and access to competent and ethical 
financial planning can make a real difference.
    CFP professionals help individuals cut through complexity, 
recognize bad information, and make decisions grounded in their 
best interests. We work holistically across budgeting, 
investing, insurance, taxes, and retirement planning. Just as 
important, we are financial first responders, and often spot 
early warning signs of fraud or financial exploitation, and can 
help intervene before damage becomes irreversible.
    The broader financial picture in this country makes this 
work even more urgent. Many Americans are financially 
vulnerable long before fraud enters the picture. A large 
portion of households lack even modest emergency savings. For 
seniors living on fixed income, a single, unexpected event can 
trigger long lasting financial harm. I've seen all this 
repeatedly, in my own work, and in my own life, as a newly 
minted senior citizen.
    I recently navigated Medicare. I'm a CFP professional with 
40 years of experience, and it still challenged me. Imagine 
facing that system alone without my background or without the 
help of an expert like a CFP professional. I've also lived the 
reality of the sandwich generation. My parents retired earlier 
than their resources realistically allowed. They eventually ran 
out of money. I supported them for much of their retirement, 
while raising my own children and saving for my own retirement.
    Their experiences are far from unique. Many families are 
quietly carrying the same burden. Too often, people seek help 
only when they are already in crisis but crisis is the worst 
time to make complex and impactful financial decisions. Just as 
we encourage preventative health care, financial planning 
should be viewed as preventative care for financial well-being.
    You shouldn't have to be wealthy to benefit from financial 
planning. Many CFP professionals provide pro bono financial 
planning services. After 9/11, I began offering free financial 
planning to victims in New York, an experience that showed me 
how powerful timely guidance can be. I support that work today 
as a member and former chair of the board of the Foundation for 
Financial Planning, an organization that provides funding to 
community-based organizations to provide pro bono financial 
planning along with financial literacy to underserved 
populations like military families, families suffering 
financial hardship due to cancer, and seniors in crisis.
    I also know that the CFP board has called upon Congress to 
expand access to financial planning through policy tools such 
as tax incentives, particularly for middle income Americans. 
Financial literacy and access to trusted financial planning 
help seniors navigate complexity, avoid fraud, and protect 
their futures. I urge the Committee and Congress to continue 
advancing policies that expand access to this vital protection. 
Thank you.
    The Chairman. I thank each of you for being here. Now, 
we'll turn over to questions. We'll start with Senator Husted.
    Senator Husted. Thank you, Chairman Scott and, so I want to 
focus on how seniors are being exploited through scams and the 
nature of what's happening to many seniors that are being 
targeted by criminals, because what I think is especially 
sinister about it is they prey on their generosity, their 
compassion, and their kindness and, you see that, particularly 
with AI-driven technologies, they can impersonate the voice of 
a child, a grandchild. They can find new and inventive ways of 
scamming our seniors.
    Frankly, I think the criminals that do this, there's a 
special place in hell for them, because it's so awful what they 
do to these senior citizens who are preyed upon. I've 
introduced legislation preventing deepfake scams that would 
establish a task force and work with financial institutions on 
how we can use and avoid the abuses of AI, how we can use it 
for good, how we can use it to protect seniors from the 
potential risks.
    Let me start--and I wasn't here for the pronunciation of 
your name, but I'm going to go--the way it has it phonetically 
spelled here is Mr. Kunguyen. Got it. All right and I want to 
start with you. What can banks and other financial institutions 
do? What are you doing? What can we do proactively to protect 
seniors from these AI-driven scams?
    Mr. Kunjukunju. Sure. There's a couple of things that are 
going on, and I want to thank you for your question because 
this is something that bankers are dealing with on a regular 
basis. It's an everyday situation for looking at this 
particular type of issue.
    When it comes to banks, what we're doing is we're making 
sure that they are appropriately trained and one of the major 
indications of something that is wrong is a change in a 
person's behavior. Whether that might be something along the 
lines of their demeanor might be changing, maybe they're 
stressed out all of a sudden, maybe they're suddenly 
disheveled. Something looks off. That's one of the steps.
    A second step is to look at if there's any changes to the 
accounts. Is something going on very differently there that 
seems to be indicative of some sort of exploitation or fraud? A 
third area is, is there some sort of a change having to do with 
the transaction? Are they wiring money abroad when they never 
wired money anywhere? Those are some of the ways that we are 
training banks to identify these issues.
    Separate from that, we're also educating consumers on a 
couple of key things. Make sure that you talk to people in your 
trusted circle before you make any financial decision. Don't 
trust your phone number. If phone numbers can be spoofed, 
caller IDs can be spoofed. Don't trust that information. Always 
hang up on somebody. Call back if there's some sort of urgency 
or concerns about anything that might be popping up, and reach 
back out to that person on a known number, or if it's an 
organization on the back of a bank card, a legitimate number 
along those lines.
    Senator Husted. Great advice for family members. What can 
you do to--what kind of recommendations do you have for family 
members about if they're concerned about their elderly family 
members?
    Mr. Kunjukunju. In this case, I would say families need to 
be involved with money decisions. One of the major concerns 
about all of this is that, oftentimes, if there's loneliness or 
social isolation, that makes an individual much more 
vulnerable. If we, as a country, become much more socialized 
with the idea of being involved in our family's money, to make 
sure that we can check out and see what's going on, having 
these discussions, this could be incredibly important and 
valuable.
    In addition to that, banks, as well as securities firms, 
have implemented trusted contact opportunities. If something is 
off or seems awry, a bank or financial institution can reach 
out to a trusted contact to get in touch with someone if 
something looks off. If families and customers can identify who 
that is, that provides a great opportunity to get in touch and 
have some of those conversations.
    Senator Husted. Then, quickly, what are some of the 
emerging scams? What are some of the things that you are seeing 
that people ought to be aware of today?
    Mr. Kunjukunju. I would say the top three scams are; 
investment-oriented scams, tech support scams, as well as 
romance scams. These are three scams that the FBI identified as 
the top scams for losses among older adults. That being said, 
tangentially, cryptocurrency-oriented scams have also been 
highlighted in about 20 percent of all complaints in 2025 
alone.
    Senator Husted. Okay. Great. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    The Chairman. Thank you. Senator Gillibrand.
    Senator Gillibrand. I'd like to give it to Senator Kim.
    Senator Kim. Thank you. Yes. Sorry, I just jumped straight 
in here, but thank you for letting me be able to jump in. I 
didn't catch, you know, the fullness of that answer just there 
on the scam side, but I'd love to be able to just keep that 
conversation going in terms of just, you know, in terms of what 
comes next here, so you know, I'm trying to think through this 
in terms of, you know, what to expect going forward.
    A couple of years out, we know how much the technology has 
been strengthening it up here and so, we're looking at this, 
and living through this moment of immense technological change 
and, you know, look, there's a lot of that. That's exciting, 
but it's also dramatically increasing the risks from 
sophisticated actors that are seeking to take advantage of 
this.
    You know, maybe I'll just start with, Ms. Kieffer, to be 
able to just go through here. If you could share, I mean, I 
know you talked about some of this just more broadly as a 
group, but could you share with me more about some of the fast-
growing types of scams targeting older Americans right now, and 
how you see them evolve in the last couple of years? What to 
expect next? I know that was some of what was talked about to 
keep building on it.
    Ms. Kieffer. Thank you for the question, Senator. What 
we're seeing today is a merging of scam typologies and, 
oftentimes, what might start as a relationship, or not even a 
romance, just a friendship, morphs into an investment scam. 
Sometimes, it is a trading strategy suggestion. Sometimes, it 
might be a pump and dump scheme, an old school pump and dump 
turned into a relationship and romance scam.
    In many, many cases, we see recovery operations. Where 
after the first scam has taken all that they can from a victim, 
we see a follow-on scam implemented by the same perpetrators 
that are coming for either additional funds, sometimes 
requesting HELOCs, or that they take money from family and 
friends. In FINRA's purview, we see a lot of the investment 
scam infrastructure, and we see it morphing in those ways that 
I just suggested.
    Senator Kim. I'll stick with you here. You know, so I 
recently introduced with some of my colleagues, the Senior 
Security Act and, you know, we're looking at other ways, you 
know, that would create a senior investor task force within the 
SEC, strengthen some of these safeguards.
    As we're thinking about these next steps, I mean, do you 
have thoughts on what we should be taking away in terms of what 
and how federal regulators can continue to coordinate on this 
issue, to try to develop the best strategies for seniors to 
both be able to protect them from the scams, but also to be 
better educated on just the technology and the positive use as 
well of that.
    Ms. Kieffer. Well, the positive use of the technology is 
one that would be a wise area to study, because we need to get 
ahead of the scams. Once the money is out the door, it's very 
difficult to recover and so, to the extent that we can be 
working public-private partnerships that encourage the use of 
these same transformative technologies to prevent the pitches 
from ever reaching the individual, we would be well served, and 
that would be the beginning of bending the curve but it does 
take all of us working together in the different corners that 
we serve, using the different jurisdictions that we have to 
make a difference.
    Senator Kim. You know, Ms. Roszkowski, I wanted to just 
bring you in on this, because, you know, as we've been trying 
to do efforts throughout my State of New Jersey, in terms of 
educating and being able to inform about fraud prevention, 
especially with seniors, I think some of the biggest challenge 
we have is not just the quality of information or the approach, 
but the capacity to scale when we have just such an enormity of 
people were trying to reach. You know, my office, it just feels 
like sometimes we're, like, is this even making a difference? 
Because of just the sheer number of seniors that we're still 
not able to connect in with.
    I guess I just wanted to ask you, just, what are some of 
the better strategies and the tactics that we should be 
thinking about and to actually be able to scale this type of 
education that we know is so important, but how do we do that 
in a way that meets the moment?
    Ms. Roszkowski. Thank you for that question, Senator. Fraud 
is growing at an alarming pace. We talked about investment 
scams, AI-related scams, job scams are up. AARP educates 
consumers through our Fraud Watch Network and works with fraud 
and scam victims through our free helpline. It's a free 
resource, open to all, and it ensures victims are all treated 
fairly and works with their families.
    We are very grateful for your support and leadership on 
both the GUARD Act, as well as the Tax Relief for Victims of 
Crimes, Scams, and Disasters Act. We need to continue 
educating, and educating in different channels and in different 
spaces. Being in every state, AARP has the ability to be on the 
ground in local communities educating on the scams that might 
be more local, and we have the power to educate and create 
awareness across the Nation for the scams, and getting ahead of 
those scams, and continue to educate both in a financial 
literacy component, integrating fraud education into when we're 
talking about financial implications, but also through all of 
our other channels.
    Senator Kim. Yes, thank you for that and I'll yield back, 
Chairman.
    The Chairman. Senator Moody.
    Senator Moody. Thank you, Senator Scott, for holding this 
hearing. Thank you, Ranking Member Gillibrand. This is an issue 
that is very near and dear to my heart. It always has been. I 
grew up with a mother who spent her entire professional career 
dedicated to making sure low-income seniors were not taken 
advantage of and helping them. It was incredible to watch, and 
certainly, my perspective on some of this and what we can be 
doing to be more fiercely guarded and protective of our 
seniors, probably formed at an early age, and carried on 
through my adult years.
    As attorney general, because I watched and heard so many 
times that our seniors were being taken advantage of, I started 
kind of the first ever senior protection team with overlaying 
all different agencies, different forms of investigators, 
prosecutors, civil attorneys, all with this mindset of what--
how can we be better in Florida?
    Obviously, Florida is a civil state, a senior state. We 
have a lot of seniors, and we started really its first of its 
kind in the Nation, a cyber fraud unit, statewide initiative, 
because we saw so many seniors with the evolution of new 
technology, really good technology, that was being manipulated 
by criminals to take advantage of seniors. We wanted to educate 
them anywhere from the crypto space, to the ATMs, to internet 
scams.
    Really, as this team of investigators and prosecutors 
became more up to speed, they were able to take and piece 
together things that even the Federal Government may not have 
taken for threshold reasons. Maybe the dollar amount wasn't a 
lot, even though it was a large amount of someone's life 
savings, or we would determine cumulative patterns where we 
saw, when we put it together, it would have met threshold 
amounts.
    After we did that, we had other states coming to us, asking 
how they could do the same things. I really, really would love 
to see more federal coordination of these state technologically 
and legally trained investigators, prosecutors, civil 
attorneys, to specifically address fraud on seniors using 
technology, really any fraud using technology, and make sure 
that they can help and overlay the resources we have in the 
Federal Government. We're exploring ways to do that now.
    Specifically, as it relates to Seniors, I've noticed that 
when there were--this fraud, for example, more recently, we've 
seen the scams go as far as courtrooms set up with actual 
judges, and lawyers, and prosecutors and they'll get people in 
these Zoom hearings and trick them into thinking they're in 
some sort of legal proceeding.
    Of course, then the next step is, they then go to banks or 
financial institutions, and try and withdraw money, and send it 
by wire, or some other place to satisfy some court debt or 
obligation that they've been tricked into believing they owe.
    A lot of the banks are really under a lot of pressure with 
the evolution of these new types of scams, to examine how they 
can be good faith players when they realize something may be 
amiss and certainly, we never, ever want to facilitate the 
meritless holding of anyone's assets or money. Certainly, and 
that would always be a concern but I'm very interested in what 
some states are trying to do with bankers and, and, their 
initiatives, many states have passed, I guess, what's called 
hold laws. More recently, in Florida, they just passed a 
Protection of Specified Adult statute, went into effect in 
January 2025.
    I'm just wondering, and I guess I'll direct this question 
to Mr. Kunjukunju, what can we learn from states that have 
delved into working with banks to protect seniors where they 
believe things may be amiss, where they may have fallen for 
some of these technologically advanced scams? Have we seen 
those types of statutes be effective? Are the majority of 
states using this, and how has the Federal Government played 
into some of those protective efforts.
    Mr. Kunjukunju. Sure. Thank you for your question. It is 
something that we're interested in at the American Bankers 
Association, as well. There's about 27 states around the 
country that have passed one of these hold and delay laws. A 
lot of the origin from this has also been proliferating as a 
result of what worked on the security side. In 2018, there was 
a rule--two rules, actually, associated with this. One was 
2165, the other was FINRA Rule 4512. One has to do with the 
hold and delay laws on the security side, and then the second 
is related to that having to do with the trusted contact.
    There's been a couple of years where we've seen this 
happen, especially on the security side of when it comes to 
looking at financial institutions, but we've seen a lot more 
progress, given that we've got 27 states around the country 
that have passed these laws on the stateside for depository 
institutions.
    One of the major things that comes into play with this is, 
we have to make sure that we appropriately educate people that 
this is possible, because when an older adult may walk into a 
branch and has this conversation, and is not under the 
impression that they know that they're in the middle of a scam, 
but if a banker thinks that they're in the middle of a scam, 
and a banker starts to ask them questions, initially, the older 
adult may be a little bit put off. Second, if the bank says, 
you know, we're going to investigate this for a couple of days, 
that's going to lead to some complications. We have to get 
ahead of all of that to make sure people understand this is for 
their benefit.
    Second, this is sort of making sure that this is something 
that is, one, legal and allowed, so the customer doesn't just 
leave and say I'm going to go to another bank and then go 
through this whole process, because that's what's really key 
here.
    To your other point, Senator Moody, what I would say is, 
what you've done in Florida has been amazing. I would say you 
may also want to look into what's worked in Texas as well. They 
started the financial intelligence centers, and that's 
financial crimes intelligence centers and that's been something 
that has been really beneficial to tackle white collar crimes.
    Senator Moody. Thank you so much.
    The Chairman. Thank you, Senator Moody. Our Ranking Member, 
Gillibrand.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Banking and 
financial planning processes have shifted heavily toward 
digital platforms, requiring increasing digital literacy skills 
to navigate these systems. AARP research shows that most older 
adults use financial technology for basic tasks, such as 
checking bank accounts, but are not engaged in more 
sophisticated tools that facilitate investment, loan 
applications, or advanced planning. Sixty-four percent of older 
adults report to AARP that they do not feel technology is 
designed with them in mind, providing evidence of technology 
being viewed as a barrier to financial planning, rather than a 
tool.
    Mr. Kahan, have you encountered clients facing difficulties 
with financial technology while planning for the retirement? 
What types of tools or supports would help seniors who are 
having trouble navigating this digital landscape?
    Mr. Kahan. Thank you for the question. We find that seniors 
often have problems with technology. Many times, as a 
practitioner, professional, CFP professional, people are coming 
into us to help them with retirement planning, we sometimes see 
things that they've done because they read it online. They 
clicked a link or something, and they've got some issues to 
deal with.
    I mean, from a basic standpoint, we try to educate clients, 
one, you know, most of the scams we find start at the computer 
level from emails where they're clicking something, so we 
encourage them to have virus protection. Understanding how to 
read an email, if it's real or not. People will click on for 
Social Security, or they'll google something for Social 
Security and they're brought to many different sites. Explain 
to clients that if it doesn't end in .gov, G-O-V, it is not 
necessarily a legitimate site, and they may be trying to sell 
you something, so explain to people to hover over an email so 
they understand to see where that's really coming from because 
it's not necessarily coming from where you think it is.
    Understanding their choices, Social Security, Medicare, and 
then again, looking at how they can identify the fraud that's 
coming in, because it's not just about the retirement planning 
part. It's about really understanding what they're reading, 
which many times is very confusing, because as clients of age, 
they're reading some of the most difficult decisions are tied 
to choosing when to take Social Security, when, you know, 
Medicare, especially if you're still working, what are the 
options for Medicare? When they start to go online, they start 
to really click in. They're their various websites, and some of 
them are fine, and a lot of them are fraudulent.
    We've had stories from clients where they wind up getting 
scammed for something, and then they're embarrassed to talk 
about it and that is a big problem, because they don't want to 
tell their family members about it. They don't want to tell 
their spouse or partner about it but we'll see it, many times, 
or they'll finally open up about it, or, you know, having a 
family member contact us to say somebody was scammed and what 
can we do about that?
    It's a matter of educating the clients about how to use the 
technology. Some of them can. Some of them will not be able to 
but letting them know it's okay to bring a family member in or 
a trusted advisor to help them go through to see what's 
legitimate, what's not. Because too often than not, we are 
seeing people scammed at every level. They're getting the phone 
calls. They're getting texts. You know, we tell people, 
sometimes when you answer your phone, don't say your name 
because they voice record it, and now they can use that to 
maybe hack into one of your other accounts, and they don't even 
realize it.
    It's a matter of trying to educate them. The best way of 
what, where the scams are, and how technology is useful, but 
you have to be able to use it properly.
    Senator Gillibrand. Right. Ms. Roszkowski, American workers 
and retirees are facing rising inflation and soaring costs. 
They're seeing their costs for groceries to go up, healthcare, 
utilities, housing. Earlier this year, AARP declared retirement 
is on pause. High costs push older Americans back to work. What 
are your members sharing as their top concern in these day-to-
day issues that they are dealing with for their own retirement?
    Ms. Roszkowski. Thank you for your question, Ranking 
Member. They are concerned about affording everyday costs. 
They're concerned about groceries. They're concerned about gas. 
They're concerned about health care. They're concerned that 
they will outlive their retirement savings. Our research shows 
not only that seven percent of "un-retirees" are going back 
into the workforce, which is up from the survey we did last 
summer, in 2025, also shows that 28 percent of retired people 
are unfortunately--they think they've retired too early. 
They're concerned they're going to outlive their savings. 
People--some people are living longer, and it's hard to plan 
for.
    Senator Gillibrand. Yeah.
    Ms. Roszkowski. We're feeling it, not only with everyday 
costs, but also long-term care, health care and women, 50 and 
older, say that everyday costs is their number one concern.
    Senator Gillibrand. Ms. Kieffer, with your work at FINRA, 
and the Investor Education Foundation, what are the most common 
challenges older adults face while managing their own 
investments in retirement, and where are the biggest knowledge 
gaps?
    Ms. Kieffer. The switch from accumulation to decumulation, 
and in some cases, it's not a perfect switch, there's a little 
bit of both happening, but older adults are facing new 
decisions, new products, potentially a new risk profile that 
they've not come back to revisit in some time. Just 
understanding in this uncertain time period of longevity that 
we all grapple with. Coming to terms with these new product 
opportunities, new decisions that need to be made, and 
switching the mindset to a decumulation phase can be very 
difficult. For some, they might choose to work with a financial 
professional in that capacity. Maybe they didn't prior and 
would like to at this time.
    Whenever anyone is choosing to work with a financial 
professional, if someone comes to them directly, or they're 
going directly to someone, they should always check out the 
background of that professional before they sign on any lines 
or even have followup meetings. They should use FINRA 
BrokerCheck to see if the person registered. Are they 
registered to sell securities? Are they registered for 
investment advice?
    The SEC's Investment Adviser Public Disclosure Data base 
provides similar information where investors can understand 
what the registration is, the services that are offered, and 
they should ask about fees. For some, navigating these 
challenges is supported by a financial professional, and for 
others, they really need to take the time to educate and learn 
about these products.
    To the extent that we, as educators, can be out there 
sharing information, not just about scams and frauds, of 
course, but about financial decisionmaking. The Investor 
Insights, articles that FINRA puts out-some I would call 911, 
they're emergent issues, and some I would call 411, they're 
educational resources_where we help people understand what a 
product is, what are the pros and considerations are, so they 
can make those informed financial decisions that are 
appropriate to their life.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    The Chairman. Thank you, Ranking Member.
    Ms. Kieffer, studies consistently show that financial 
literacy declines with age, even among people who are 
financially sophisticated earlier in life. Is the financial 
industry doing enough to account for that reality, and how it 
designs products and delivers advice to older customers.
    Ms. Kieffer. Thank you for the question. While I can't 
comment to what the industry specifically is doing in this 
area, I do know that FINRA members are committed to investor 
protection, and are regularly sharing investor education 
information and working with their clients to understand the 
different products that they're offering and being offered. We 
always stand behind--if you don't understand the product, you 
need to double-think whether that product is for you, and 
that's a premise of all of our investor education.
    The Chairman. Thanks. Mr. Kunjukunju, say, a senior walks 
into a bank branch and asks to wire $50,000 to someone they met 
online three weeks ago. What specific training do frontline 
bank employees receive today to recognize that situation as 
potential fraud?
    Mr. Kunjukunju. Yes, thank you so much for that question, 
because that is very much along the lines of things that 
happen. Banks provide the training, but we also do with the 
ABA. One of the things that we do is we focus on those three 
areas; looking at the changes in demeanor, changes in 
transaction, changes in accounts to try to determine what might 
be going on, so in this type of situation, they're going to be 
looking at--looking back at their training to understand, okay, 
what is different here? Is there some sort of change in this 
particular scenario? There is absolutely a change if this 
person has never wired money abroad.
    Second, it's going to be looking at information about 
whether this person has even used this amount of money ever to 
take out, to transfer, to do anything along those lines and 
then the third piece of this is to really understand why are 
they sending this money.
    To your point about the question that has to do with the 
nature of this relationship. They'll be asking some specific, 
pointed questions to understand how did this develop? How long 
have you been in relationship with this person? How did you 
meet them? Have you ever met them online? Those are the types 
of things that they'll be asking.
    Beyond that, if, depending on state law, they might have 
the ability to delay it, investigate further, or they might 
reach out to Adult Protective Services and/or law enforcement 
to get involved and to address the situation, or reach out to a 
trusted contact regarding this concern.
    The Chairman. Thank you. Ms. Roszkowski, Social Security 
claiming decisions are among the most consequential financial 
choices an older American will ever make, often without 
professional guidance. AARP has done extensive work on this 
issue. What does your data show you about how about how many 
Americans are leaving money on the table by claiming to 
earlier, and what it would take to change that?
    Ms. Roszkowski. Thank you for the question, Chairman. Most 
of the people I talk to say they're going to retire at 65. 
Americans do not know enough about Social Security and the 
money they will leave on the table if they claim at a certain 
age. Many don't know their full retirement age, nor do they 
know it's approximately 8 percent per year they leave on the 
table if they choose to claim Social Security before age 70.
    We are supporting bills, such as the Claiming Age Clarity 
Act, so thank you for your support. With that--and this isn't a 
one-size-fits-all decision--that is why it's critical to be 
educating along one's lifespan. Things may change from one year 
to the next, and Social Security is a one-time decision that 
can impact someone's full retirement, which may last 30 years, 
as well as their family. It's continuing to educate, and we 
know that Americans do not know enough about the implications 
of claiming too early as well as the money that they're leaving 
on the table.
    The Chairman. Thank you. Scott, the fiduciary standard 
requires financial advisers to act in their client's best 
interest, but not every person calling themselves a financial 
advisor is actually held to that standard. How does the senior, 
who has no background in finance, know whether the person 
managing the retirement savings is legally required to put 
their interests first?
    Mr. Kahan. The first thing we always tell people, seniors, 
they should be looking at a CFP professional. There're 
approximately 107,000 CFP professionals out there today. 
There's I don't know how many hundreds of thousands of so-
called financial advisors. The CFP professionals have to follow 
a fiduciary standard, which is putting the client's best 
interests first.
    People should be asking if, you know, when they're meeting 
with somebody, full disclosure. There're so many different 
compensation models out there. It's very confusing. There's 
commission, there's fees and commission. Not to say one is 
better than the other. Everybody has to figure out what works 
for them but full disclosure, there's nothing wrong with asking 
somebody that you're sitting across from, as a planner or as 
advisor, whatever their term is, "What are you making? What are 
your commissions? What are your fees?" Fees are pretty 
apparent. Commissions are not always. It doesn't mean there's 
something wrong with that, but there should be no reason not to 
have full disclosure. That way, they can see or make a decision 
based on compensation of this is what you're doing for me, how 
much is it going to cost me? Because that is really the first 
step in understanding what the costs are.
    Looking at fiduciary, putting the client's best interest 
first, is the most important thing. Because it's about ethics 
and trusted relationships, because people will share with us 
things that they don't share among each other. We'll have 
spouses come in and have conversations that they've never had 
before, and sometimes they're surprised of what the other one 
is saying. We're there to help mediate sometimes, but in 
reality, is to really figure out what the best interests for 
them and have that trusted relationship.
    The Chairman. Thank you. Ms. Kieffer, FINRA's BrokerCheck 
tool exists so that any American can look up whether their 
financial advisor has a history of misconduct, but surveys show 
that most seniors have never heard of it. How many older 
Americans are handling their retirement savings to someone with 
a disciplinary record right now simply because nobody told them 
to check?
    Ms. Kieffer. Thank you for the question, Senator. FINRA is 
committed to sharing the resource, BrokerCheck, and we work 
with a number of partners to make sure that Americans are aware 
of this tool. We have run public awareness campaigns. We work 
with our broker-dealers to make sure that the information is 
out there so that investors know to check.
    Many years ago, we ran a campaign called, "Before You 
Invest, Ask & Check," that specifically was designed to drive 
traffic and understanding of this opportunity. The vast 
majority of brokers that are registered and inside of 
BrokerCheck do not have a disciplinary record, but it is 
absolutely the information that an investor should know to ask 
the questions they need to ask before working with someone.
    The Chairman. Thank you. Anything else?
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you all for your testimony.
    The Chairman. I'd like to thank everyone for--does anybody 
have anything else they want to add?
    [No response.] All right. I'd like to thank everyone for 
being here today and participating. This has been exactly the 
kind of conversation this Committee exists to have. Here's why 
I keep thinking about. The challenges we've talked about today 
are real. The gap between the information many seniors have and 
what they need is very real. The scammers and call centers 
overseas running script designed to steal a lifetime of savings 
from someone's grandparent is very real.
    The confusion about Medicare, enrollment, windows, and 
Social Security timing decisions that cost people thousands of 
dollars they can never get back is real. We've spent decades 
building programs that are supposed to help seniors, and then 
bury them on government websites that no one can find or 
navigate. We've watched fraud explode while not doing anything 
about it.
    My colleagues and I here on this Committee have to have 
legislation. Not just have legislation, but make sure Congress 
acts when it's needed. This Committee will keep pushing. We're 
going to keep shining a light on the gaps in financial 
education. We're going to keep demanding that Washington works 
for older Americans, because every senior in this country 
deserves to enjoy the retirement they spent their life 
building, with dignity, with independence, and with the 
knowledge they need to protect it.
    I also want to remind seniors and families watching, that 
the Senate Aging Committee operates a fraud hotline for anyone 
who believes they may have been targeted or victimized. The 
number is 1-855-303-9470.
    If any Senators have additional questions for the witnesses 
or statements to be added, their hearing record will be open 
until next Wednesday at 5:00 p.m. I want to thank everybody for 
being here.
    [Whereupon, at 4:36 p.m., the hearing was adjourned.]
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                 U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging

   "Empowering Seniors Through Financial Literacy: Tools to Protect 
           Savings, Prevent Fraud, and Promote Independence"

                             April 15, 2026

                        Questions for the Record

                             Sam Kunjukunju

                   Ranking Member Kirsten Gillibrand

    Question:

    A recent survey conducted by the National Council on Aging 
(NCOA) and the Women's Institute for a Secure Retirement 
(WISER) found American women reporting significant economic 
stress. Overall, decreasing numbers of women consider 
themselves financially secure, sharing that they are not 
confident about how to plan and save for retirement, with the 
cost of housing and possible cuts to Medicare and Social 
Security as top concerns. Low-income women, who are most at 
risk in their later years, report that they lack confidence in 
planning for retirement. How do we best tackle socialization 
practices that lead to improved financial outcomes for women 
that include access to capital and retirement savings?

    Response:

    Leading research indicates that improving women's long-term 
financial outcomes begins with building financial capability 
early, with schools and workplaces as two important settings 
for women to develop financial planning skills at a young age. 
Recognizing the importance of starting young, the ABA 
Foundation fills a critical national gap by mobilizing bankers 
to deliver financial education to youth. Through our two 
nationwide, banker-driven campaigns - Teach Children to Save 
and Get Smart About Credit - the Foundation reaches kids, 
teens, and young adults with practical lessons on budgeting 
saving, interest, credit, and other personal finance topics. 
These programs help ensure that young people encounter and 
understand financial concepts long before they face major 
financial decisions.
    These efforts are especially important given the uneven 
access to financial education across the country. Currently, 
only 11 states have fully implemented a personal finance course 
as a high school graduation requirement. Momentum is building, 
with 19 additional states in progress, but there is still 
significant room for growth. Expanding financial education 
requirements in schools would dramatically improve financial 
knowledge and confidence among young women and set them on a 
path toward stronger long-term financial outcomes and greater 
financial security, including in retirement.

                 U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging

   "Empowering Seniors Through Financial Literacy: Tools to Protect 
           Savings, Prevent Fraud, and Promote Independence"

                             April 15, 2026

                        Questions for the Record

                            Carly Roszkowski

                   Ranking Member Kirsten Gillibrand

    Question:

    A recent survey conducted by the National Council on Aging 
(NCOA) and the Women's Institute for a Secure Retirement 
(WISER) found American women reporting significant economic 
stress. Overall, decreasing numbers of women consider 
themselves financially secure, sharing that they are not 
confident about how to plan and save for retirement, with the 
cost of housing and possible cuts to Medicare and Social 
Security as top concerns. In addition, surveys point to large 
majorities of women being supportive of a national paid leave 
program. Common sense solutions include my FAMILY Act to 
provide paid family and medical leave, and the Social Security 
Caregiver Credit Act to provide family caregivers with Social 
Security credits. Low-income women, who are most at risk in 
their later years, report that they lack confidence in planning 
for retirement. What type of programs are most effective in 
helping these women feel prepared to engage in financial 
planning? How does unpaid caregiving become an economic penalty 
in retirement for so many women in this country?

    Response:

    Programs are most effective when they move beyond one-time 
financial education and instead provide practical, ongoing, and 
"just-in-time" support tied to real decisions. As outlined in 
my testimony, financial literacy works best when it is:

      Timely and decision-based - delivered at key life 
moments such as job changes, retirement transitions, or the 
onset of caregiving, when individuals must act on complex 
financial choices.

      Step-by-step and simplified - offering plain-language 
guidance and tools (such as calculators or structured programs 
like AARP's Navigator) that help individuals translate 
information into decisions.

      Continuous, not one-time - recognizing that financial 
needs evolve over time and require ongoing support.

      Paired with decision supports and protections - 
including fraud awareness, trusted contacts, and safeguards 
that help individuals act with confidence.

    For low-income women in particular, effective programs must 
also address structural barriers, not just knowledge gaps-such 
as limited access to retirement plans, safe financial products, 
and workplace-based savings opportunities. Without these 
supports, education alone is insufficient to improve outcomes.
    Unpaid caregiving contributes to economic insecurity in 
retirement because it often leads to interrupted earnings, 
reduced savings, and lower Social Security benefits. Many 
individuals-disproportionately women-leave the workforce early 
or reduce hours due to caregiving responsibilities. These 
interruptions limit lifetime earnings and the ability to 
contribute to retirement accounts, while also reducing Social 
Security benefits, which are based on earnings history. 
Caregivers may also face ongoing financial strain, making it 
more difficult to save or rebuild financial security later. The 
result is a compounding penalty that follows women into 
retirement, increasing their risk of financial insecurity and 
reliance on Social Security as their primary source of income.

    Question:

    Can you please share how CFPB and FLEC support financial 
resilience resources for olderAmericans?

    Response:

    The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) and the 
Financial Literacy and Education Commission (FLEC) provide 
coordination, tools, and standards-setting.

      The CFPB provides resources, such as its Managing 
Someone Else's Money guides, which help caregivers understand 
fiduciary responsibilities, recognize fraud, and provide 
suggestions on where to seek assistance. These are especially 
important as more families assist older adults with financial 
decision-making.

      The CFPB and Treasury, through FLEC, coordinate a 
government-wide strategy on financial literacy, helping align 
federal agencies around shared priorities and improving access 
to resources.

    Combined, these efforts seek to ensure that financial 
education is not only widely available, but also effective, 
actionable, and accountable.

                        Senator Raphael Warnock

    Question:

    A recent report from the Government Accountability Office 
identified the Federal Trade Commission (FTC), Consumer 
Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB), and the Federal Bureau of 
Investigation (FBI) as the federal agencies best positioned to 
lead a government-wide strategy on anti-scam efforts. However, 
President Trump fired two members of the fivemember FTC in 
March 2025, and this administration has attempted to eliminate 
the CFPB.
    Cuts to agencies like the FTC, CFPB, and FBI would leave 
older Americans significantly more vulnerable to scams by 
weakening the coordinated, multi-layered response required to 
combat financial fraud. Fraud is a growing and increasingly 
sophisticated threat, with older adults disproportionately 
targeted. Effective prevention requires more than education-it 
depends on enforcement, coordination, and systemic protections 
across government and industry. Federal agencies play a 
critical role in investigating fraud, disrupting criminal 
networks, supporting victims, and promoting protective 
practices like transaction monitoring and trusted contacts.
    How would cuts to these agencies leave seniors vulnerable 
to scams?

    Response:

    People work their entire lives to build security for 
themselves and their families. They are working, raising 
children, caring for loved ones, fixing things around the 
house, and waking up every day focused on making ends meet. 
Government oversight and consumer protection help make it 
possible for people to go about their lives without having 
their savings stolen from them. If that role is weakened, more 
responsibility shifts onto individuals at a time when financial 
decisions are becoming more complex and scams more 
sophisticated. Older adults may face heightened risks because 
they are often balancing managing retirement income, healthcare 
costs, and caregiving responsibilities all at once, which can 
be a tremendous challenge. Ensuring that Americans can maintain 
financial security in later life depends on having systems in 
place that deter wrongdoing, promote fair practices, and 
support people when something goes wrong. Protecting people so 
they can continue living the lives they've worked hard to build 
- is what matters most.

    Question:

    What steps should Congress take to ensure these agencies 
have the capacity to combat scams targeting older adults?

    Response:

    Congress can strengthen protections for older adults by 
ensuring that federal agencies have the capacity, coordination, 
and tools needed to address fraud effectively. Key steps may 
include:

      Sustaining and strengthening funding and staffing for 
agencies that investigate and respond to fraud at scale.

      Supporting interagency coordination, building on 
existing efforts to align enforcement, data-sharing, and public 
education across government.

      Promoting proven prevention strategies, including:

          	Trusted contact frameworks

          	Transaction monitoring and alerts

          	Employee training programs (such as those used in 
financial institutions)

      Investing in public awareness and victim support, 
recognizing that early intervention can significantly reduce 
financial losses and long-term harm.

      Encouraging outcome-based evaluation, to ensure 
resources are directed toward the most effective anti-scam 
interventions.

    Congress can strengthen protections for older adults by 
ensuring that federal anti-fraud efforts are coordinated, well-
resourced, and focused on stopping scams before losses occur. 
There has been bipartisan recognition that combating scams 
requires a whole-of-government approach, and several 
legislative efforts reflect that understanding:

      S. 3355, the National Strategy for Combatting Scams Act 
would bring together federal agencies, consumer advocates, and 
industry leaders to create a coordinated plan to fight scams. 
By requiring collaboration across more than a dozen federal 
agencies, the bill helps cut through red tape, improve data 
sharing, and speed up enforcement when scams happen. It also 
makes sure the voices of those most affected-like older adults, 
survivors, and people with disabilities-are part of the 
solution and importantly, it prioritizes making resources 
easier to access providing for more effective recovery for 
those who've been targeted.

      S. 2950, the Scam Compound Accountability and 
Mobilization Act (SCAM Act) would bring together federal 
agencies, law enforcement, and international partners to 
develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to counter scam 
compounds.

      S. 4055, the Senior Security Act of 2025 would establish 
a Senior Investor Task Force within the Securities and Exchange 
Commission (SEC). The task force will coordinate across SEC 
divisions to strengthen safeguards and stop financial predators 
from scamming seniors out of their savings.

      H.R. 7215, the Stop SCAMS Act would create a long-
overdue, unified strategy to combat these crimes by tasking the 
Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) with organizing a 
coordinated, government-wide effort to prevent and respond to 
scams. It would also align inter-agency actions, definitions, 
and data to improve the efficiency and effectiveness of scam-
fighting efforts.

      S.2544, the GUARD Act would provide state and local law 
enforcement with federal grants to hire and train staff and 
secure specialized software and other tools to improve their 
capacity to conduct fraud investigations. This will ensure law 
enforcement has the tools they need to lock up the criminals 
who victimize older Americans.

      H.R. 6426, the Stop Scams Against Seniors Act, would 
empower state, local, and federal law enforcement agencies to 
better combat the growing epidemic of financial fraud targeting 
older Americans by authorizing federal grants to support Elder 
Justice Task Forces nationwide, improving coordination and 
investigative capacity to pursue and prosecute criminals who 
exploit older adults.

    Taken together, these legislative efforts underscore the 
importance of sustained capacity, coordination, and prevention. 
By investing in these approaches, Congress can help ensure that 
older Americans are better protected from scams while 
preserving their ability to live the lives they have worked 
hard to build.

                 U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging

   "Empowering Seniors Through Financial Literacy: Tools to Protect 
           Savings, Prevent Fraud, and Promote Independence"

                             April 15, 2026

                        Questions for the Record

                              Scott Kahan

                   Ranking Member Kirsten Gillibrand

    Question:

    Twenty-three percent of people age fifty and older care for 
either an adult or a child with a disability. For this 
population, the financial and physical well-being of the people 
they care for can be a great source of anxiety and stress. This 
stress is especially real for parents who must plan for the day 
their disabled child will need to live without them. What 
considerations do parents of disabled children, who play a huge 
role ensuring their loved ones have their basic needs met, have 
when they plan for when they outlive their children?

    Response:

    This is an important issue that requires careful planning 
by families. There are two primary considerations. First, who 
will be responsible for a person with a disability? Many times, 
parents rely on a family member, often a sibling, to care for a 
disabled sibling when the parents are gone. This puts an undue 
burden on that potential caretaker. They may be prepared for 
this responsibility, or they may not want this obligation. 
Depending on the severity of the person's disability, a group 
home may be a consideration. Finding the right place is often 
difficult, especially if the family lacks the financial 
resources to afford the flexibility to choose one.
    Second, how will parents financially protect the disabled 
child? The average family does not have the resources to 
provide for the long-term care needed. Parents also may want to 
leave an inheritance split equally among all their children. In 
cases like this, parents are sometimes forced to leave less or 
nothing to other children, which can cause resentment among 
family members. Proper financial planning is essential early on 
to create a long-term plan that may include trusts, insurance, 
and government benefits. Some parents can purchase life 
insurance to create funds upon their death. However, this can 
be expensive and assumes that the parents are insurable. Others 
may create Special Needs Trusts. For many families, ABLE 
(Achieving a Better Life Experience) accounts are an important 
and often underutilized vehicle. Established under federal law, 
ABLE accounts allow individuals with disabilities to save money 
in a tax-advantaged account without losing eligibility for 
federal benefit programs. They can be used for qualified 
disability expenses, including housing, education, 
transportation, and health care. For families who may not have 
sufficient resources for a Special Needs Trust, an ABLE account 
can be an accessible and meaningful first step toward 
protecting a disabled loved one's financial future.

    Question:

    In April 2024, the Biden Administration advanced the 
Retirement Security Rule to enhance worker retirement savings' 
interests by adopting a broader definition of an investment 
advice fiduciary under the Employee Retirement Income Security 
Act (ERISA). In March 2026, the Trump Administration abandoned 
the rule, after declining to appeal a court ruling that vacated 
the rule. As a certified financial planner, can you explain why 
it's important to you as a professional to provide financial 
advice that is wholly in your client's best interest? Further, 
why is the requirement to provide trusted investment advice 
free from overcharges a cornerstone of the CFP Board of 
Standards, and do you have any recommendations in this area for 
your broader industry?

    Response:

    With Americans increasingly responsible for their own 
retirement savings, the need for trustworthy, professional 
guidance has never been greater. CFP Board research 
overwhelmingly shows that when Americans work with a financial 
professional for advice, they desire and expect that person to 
act in the client's best interests. This is an obligation that 
more than 109,000 CFPr professionals already commit to CFP 
Board to uphold, yet hundreds of thousands of other financial 
professionals do not, while calling themselves wealth managers, 
financial advisors, or financial planners. This creates real 
confusion - and real consequences - for the public.
    Conflicts of interest are present in every business model. 
They most commonly arise from the receipt of compensation from 
a client, but there are other kinds. When providing financial 
advice to a client, a CFPr professional must avoid conflicts or 
make full disclosure of all material conflicts of interest with 
the client that could affect the professional relationship, 
obtain the client's informed consent, and manage the conflict 
in the client's best interests. This is important because the 
consequences of conflicted advice are substantial. Investors 
may only experience small differences in fees each year. Over 
time, however, these small differences can lead to enormous 
erosion of account balances and significantly impact financial 
security.
    My recommendation for the industry is to adopt a legal 
fiduciary standard for all financial advice. This would include 
an obligation to fully disclose and manage all conflicts of 
interest, such as compensation. If a firm or financial 
professional earns commissions, the client should be made aware 
of them. If they pay fees, the client should see the fees on a 
statement from the custodian. Full disclosure and managing 
conflicts should be a requirement so that a client can decide 
who to work with. This would help restore consumer confidence.

    Question:

    More than half a million Georgians have left the Affordable 
Care Act (ACA) Marketplace since January 2025, following the 
expiration of enhanced premium tax credits. Across the country, 
nearly five million ACA enrollees between the ages of 50 and 64 
are facing increased monthly premiums for health insurance.
    Based on your experience as a financial planner, how does a 
drastic increase in monthly health insurance premiums affect 
early retirees' ability to cover health care costs?

    Response:

    For early retirees, one of the hardest decisions is how to 
choose and pay for their medical coverage. If they are within 
18 months of age 65, they are eligible for COBRA. With COBRA, 
though, many people do not realize they are now paying the full 
cost of insurance, not just the employee share they paid while 
working. The other concern is their spouse's age. If the spouse 
is younger, they have a longer gap to cover before they are 
eligible for Medicare. Also, people need to buy a supplemental 
plan to cover many of the costs that Medicare does not cover.
    People who planned to retire early may now need to delay 
retirement until age 65. Often, though, retiring early is not 
the employee's choice. They are forced out of the workforce by 
a layoff, a health event, or a caregiving obligation and then 
face paying a much larger amount for medical coverage. This 
will mean drawing from retirement savings sooner than expected. 
They may also need to sacrifice other expenses, such as travel, 
home repairs, necessary medications, etc. If they choose to 
take on the risk and forgo insurance to cut costs, they risk a 
single serious illness wiping out their retirement savings 
quickly.

    Question:

    How can Congress improve early retirees' access to 
affordable health insurance through the Marketplace?

    Response:

    One of the most significant financial planning challenges 
facing Americans today is the cost of healthcare coverage in 
the years between leaving work and becoming eligible for 
Medicare at age 65. Whether that gap is covered through COBRA, 
a marketplace plan, or a spouse's employer coverage, the 
financial burden can be substantial and, for many, prohibitive. 
In my over 40 years of helping clients, I have seen how 
healthcare costs during this gap can be far higher than 
anticipated and destabilize a sound financial plan. From a 
financial planning perspective, clients need predictability. 
Policy solutions that reduce uncertainty, improve 
affordability, and expand coverage options for Americans in the 
60-64 age range would meaningfully strengthen retirement 
security across the income spectrum.      
    
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