[Senate Hearing 119-307]
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                                                        S. Hrg. 119-307

                  PRESSURE COOKER: COMPETITION ISSUES
                 IN THE SEED AND FERTILIZER INDUSTRIES

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                       COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY
                          UNITED STATES SENATE

                    ONE HUNDRED NINETEENTH CONGRESS

                             FIRST SESSION

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                            OCTOBER 28, 2025
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                          Serial No. J-119-45

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                       COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY

                  CHARLES E. GRASSLEY, Iowa, Chairman
                  
LINDSEY O. GRAHAM, South Carolina    RICHARD J. DURBIN, Illinois,       
JOHN CORNYN, Texas                       Ranking Member
MICHAEL S. LEE, Utah                 SHELDON WHITEHOUSE, Rhode Island
TED CRUZ, Texas                      AMY KLOBUCHAR, Minnesota
JOSH HAWLEY, Missouri                CHRISTOPHER A. COONS, Delaware
THOM TILLIS, North Carolina          RICHARD BLUMENTHAL, Connecticut
JOHN KENNEDY, Louisiana              MAZIE K. HIRONO, Hawaii
MARSHA BLACKBURN, Tennessee          CORY A. BOOKER, New Jersey
ERIC SCHMITT, Missouri               ALEX PADILLA, California
KATIE BOYD BRITT, Alabama            PETER WELCH, Vermont
ASHLEY MOODY, Florida                ADAM B. SCHIFF, California

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         Joe Zogby, Democratic Chief Counsel and Staff Director








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                           OPENING STATEMENTS

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Grassley, Hon. Charles E.........................................     1
Durbin, Hon. Richard J...........................................     3
Lee, Hon. Michael S..............................................     4
Booker, Hon. Cory A..............................................     6

                               WITNESSES

Coppess, Noah....................................................     9
    Prepared statement...........................................    37
    Responses to written questions...............................    86
Latham, John.....................................................    11
    Prepared statement...........................................    41
    Responses to written questions...............................    91
LaVigne, Andrew..................................................    15
    Prepared statement...........................................    45
    Responses to written questions...............................   101
Moss, Diana......................................................    17
    Prepared statement...........................................    49
    Responses to written questions...............................   107
Ragland, Caleb...................................................    12
    Prepared statement...........................................    58
    Responses to written questions...............................   111
Rosenbusch, Corey................................................    13
    Prepared statement...........................................    68
    Responses to written questions...............................   117

                                APPENDIX

Items submitted for the record...................................   123








 
                  PRESSURE COOKER: COMPETITION ISSUES 
                 IN THE SEED AND FERTILIZER INDUSTRIES

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                       TUESDAY, OCTOBER 28, 2025

                              United States Senate,
                                Committee on the Judiciary,
                                                    Washington, DC.
    The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 10:17 a.m., in 
Room SH-106, Hart Senate Office Building, Hon. Charles E. 
Grassley, Chairman of the Committee, presiding.
    Present: Senators Grassley [presiding], Cornyn, Lee, 
Hawley, Britt, Moody, Durbin, Klobuchar, Blumenthal, Booker, 
and Welch.

        OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. CHARLES E. GRASSLEY, 
             A U.S. SENATOR FROM THE STATE OF IOWA

    Chairman Grassley. This is kind of the order of business 
for today. I'll have an opening statement, Senator Durbin will 
have an opening statement, then we have the Chairman and 
Ranking Member of the Subcommittees to make an opening 
statement--that's the Antitrust Subcommittee--and then we'll 
introduce and swear in the witnesses and take the testimony.
    Today, the Judiciary Committee turns its attention to the 
problem Iowa farmers talked to me about at the kitchen table 
and at the local co-op. This time of the year, farmers are 
buying the basics they need to plant and harvest a crop. These 
farmers don't feel like they have a real choice, let alone a 
fair price. America's farmers are the most productive in the 
world. They take the risk, put in the work, and feed the United 
States and much of the world, but they also operate on thin 
profit margins, if they have a profit. If input costs go up or 
switching suppliers is too hard, that pinch is felt by every 
farmer, family, and consumer in the world.
    Farmers across the country are shouldering significant 
higher input costs, particularly for seed and fertilizer. 
According to the USDA's agricultural price reports, the price 
indexes farmers pay for these categories were notably higher in 
January 2025 than at the start of 2021. This was obviously due 
in part to the record high inflation that took place during the 
last 4 years. Rising input prices squeeze already thin margins, 
especially when combined with volatile commodity markets, 
higher borrowing costs, and weather risk. Today's hearing will 
examine the drivers behind these trends: energy markets that 
influence nitrogen production, global supply disruptions, 
logistic bottlenecks, and market concentration. This hearing 
will evaluate practical steps that increase transparency and 
competition so processors and producers can remain viable and 
resilient. One such step would be to pass my legislation, the 
Fertilizer Research Act. The bill would require Department of 
Agriculture to do a comprehensive study on fertilizer industry 
to shed light on the reason farmers are paying so much for 
fertilizer. The Department would be required to give 
recommendations and do regular reporting to the public.
    This hearing is focused on competition issues. However, 
there is something that the Trump administration can do right 
now to help ease the burden for farmers: lowering the 
countervailing duties on phosphate from Morocco. In 2024, the 
Biden administration increased the duties on Moroccan phosphate 
to 18 percent. The Biden phosphate duties have only hurt 
farmers by boxing out access to this important market on an 
essential input with no substitute. I'm calling on the Trump 
administration to help American farmers and get rid of that 
phosphate duty.
    Over the last 20 years, a few big companies have bought up 
many of the smaller seed and chemical businesses. Those same 
companies now sell not just the seeds, but also the pesticides 
and digital farming tools that tell farmers what to plant and 
when. Because all these products and data systems are tied 
together, it's hard for farmers to switch to a different brand. 
Their data and recommendations are locked in to one company's 
system. On the fertilizer side, global energy and trade shocks 
hit prices fast. Regional markets, those prices can be slow to 
fall. On top of that are the contracts and dealer practices, 
like loyalty rebates, most-favored clauses, and early order 
calendars, that can lock in a farm or a local retailer even 
when there's better options on paper.
    Now, nobody here wants to punish innovation. We want better 
yields, healthier soils, quality products, and we've been 
vastly improving in that area for the last 40 years, but we 
also want competition that's fair, transparent, and local 
competition that a farmer can actually express when he or she 
sits down to make a purchase. Competition law is about making 
sure the rules don't give a few players the power to decide 
what everyone else pays and which choices are even available.
    This hearing focuses on problems and workable solutions. 
First, transparency: farmers deserve to know the effective 
price that they're paying, including how rebates and clawbacks 
really work, and whether wholesale fertilizer declines are 
being passed through in a timely way. Second, portability: 
farmers ought to control their own data and move it quickly, 
completely, and affordably so they can seek independent 
agronomic advice without fear of losing their history. Third, 
fair dealing: contracts and dealer programs shouldn't operate 
as a de facto exclusive arrangement in rural counties where 
there might only be one or two full-service outlets. And 
fourth, accountability: when mergers don't deliver what was 
promised on paper, agencies should look back and fix it. I 
represent Iowa, so I'm thinking about anhydrous ammonia 
logistics, early season timing, and the reality that a lost 
multiline dealer can mean a long drive and fewer options. But 
these issues cross State lines, and the principles are the same 
whether you farm in Iowa, Illinois, or anywhere else. More 
sunlight, more choice, less fine print, level playing fields.
    I appreciate Senator Durbin's partnership in setting this 
constructive, bipartisan tone today. We'll hear from farmers, 
producers, and industry experts. My goal is pretty simple: 
identify practical steps, legislative and regulatory, that 
respect innovation and property rights, but restore real, on-
the-ground competition. We're also joined today by Gail Slater, 
the assistant attorney general for antitrust at the Department 
of Justice. Her presence is a strong showing of good faith and 
continued collaboration on ag antitrust issues that I hope to 
have with her and have had already. When farmers win fair 
choices at fair prices, the rural communities win, consumers 
win and American food security wins. I look forward to the 
discussion and now turn to Senator Durbin.

         OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. RICHARD J. DURBIN, 
            A U.S. SENATOR FROM THE STATE OFILLINOIS

    Senator Durbin. Thanks, Senator Grassley. We are of 
different political faith, but we are friends and we have many 
issues in common, particularly as they relate to agriculture. I 
concede--reluctantly, but concede--that Iowa is the number one 
producer of corn among States----
    [Laughter.]
    Senator Durbin [continuing]. And add quickly, Illinois is 
first in soybeans. We have one category where I think we are 
comfortably ahead of Iowa and I want it noted this week, and 
that's in the area of pumpkins, so we are proud of that fact. I 
thank you for this hearing.
    I think we need to take a look at the overall state of the 
farm economy as we address this particular challenge today. 
More than 50 years ago, in 1973, the U.S. economy was in 
turmoil. Inflation and the cost of living were up, food prices 
were high, and American families were angry. At the same time, 
there was a global shortage of livestock feed, causing the 
price of soybeans to spike. President Nixon, in an effort to 
stem inflation, stopped all U.S. soybean exports, including 
those headed to Japan, then our biggest customer. This 
interruption lasted about 3 months, but for Japan, it was the 
last straw. The Japanese wanted a more reliable soybean 
supplier, so they found a handful of small soybean farms in 
Brazil and started investing. Today, Brazil is the second 
largest soybean producer in the world and the biggest 
competitor to Illinois soybean farmers. All it took was one 
Presidential misstep and 3 months of trade uncertainty. Three 
months.
    Sadly, President Trump is not a student of history. His 
tariffs on China, even as they change from one week to the 
next, are bad news for Illinois farmers and good news for 
Brazilian farmers, who've seen their sales of soybeans to China 
increase by $2 billion this year. Tariffs are also good news 
for Argentina, which has sold $708 million more in soybeans to 
China this year, yet President Trump is propping up Argentina's 
government with a $40 billion lifeline when American farmers 
are struggling to stay in business. The President is in Asia 
for trade discussions with China. I hope that they will be 
positive, but China is now investing heavily in South American 
farming, even building mega ports there to manage massive 
shipments of soybeans, corn, and sugar. It is a replay of what 
we saw with Japan and Brazil in the 1970's, and China is 
playing the long game at the expense of American farmers.
    Illinois farmers are concerned about the increasing cost of 
doing business, especially the cost of seed, fertilizer, and 
equipment. One problem is that there are just three--pardon 
me--just a few big companies in these sectors where market 
concentration reduces competition. The Committee has examined 
these dynamics in other parts of the food industry, such as 
meat packing and groceries. It's a complex issue, which is why 
I joined Chairman Grassley back in April to question why the 
Department of Justice plan to close its Chicago field office 
that specializes in agriculture antitrust issues. The 
administration has not provided a response.
    Farmers need policy certainty from Washington, but these 
past 10 months, that's not what we've given them. The Chairman 
and I co-sponsored a bill to allow for year-round E15 ethanol 
sales. It almost passed Congress until Donald Trump and Elon 
Musk stopped it and opposed the bill. Farmers also face severe 
workforce shortages. Seventy percent of farm workers in the 
United States are foreign born, but the way this administration 
targeted immigrant farm workers is another sign of how this 
administration values farmers. USDA has forced out more than 
15,000 employees since January, and farmers are seeing 
widespread delay in services as a result.
    My farmers--all farmers--need help, but no amount of 
financial relief can replace lost markets, especially if relief 
payments simply go from farmers straight to the handful of 
seed, fertilizer, and equipment companies. Big companies say 
their size helps them compete and survive while providing 
consumers with a consistent, reliable product. Farmers 
disagree, saying feed, seed, and fertilizer are not affordable, 
come with strict contracts and requirements that prevent 
farmers from exploring the alternatives, pressure tactics that 
keep farmers trapped as customers, and zero transparency on how 
personal farming data gets collected and sent to who knows 
where for who knows what.
    This month, the Nobel Prize for Economics was awarded to 
three economists who believe that economic growth happens when 
conditions exist that allow new innovation and technology to 
rise up to replace old ones. Today's witnesses will report on 
whether that is actually happening. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Senator Grassley. Chairman Grassley. Before I call on 
Senator Lee, Chairman of the Subcommittee, and Senator Booker, 
the Ranking Member, I think we all saw the TV reports over the 
weekend that Secretary Bessent feels that he's making progress 
with the Chinese counterparts, and I suppose, to some extent, 
that comes from the fact that the President has used tariffs as 
a carrot and stick to make progress in this area, but we hope 
that when President Trump gets done with his meeting with 
President Xi this weekend that we have good reports on soybeans 
going to China. Senator Lee.

           OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. MICHAEL S. LEE, 
             A U.S. SENATOR FROM THE STATE OF UTAH

    Senator Lee. Thank you, Chairman Grassley and Ranking 
Member Durbin, for holding this important hearing on 
competition in American agriculture.
    Agriculture is, of course, one of our greatest strengths as 
a country. Our farmers work hard to produce nutritious food, 
not just for families here at home, but to feed hungry people 
around the world. And yet today, farmers are facing mounting 
pressure from market consolidation that's been squeezing them 
from both sides, creating a bottleneck. The companies that 
farmers buy from keep raising prices on some of the essential 
supplies they have to have in order to produce their 
commodities. At the same time, buyers that farmers try to sell 
to continue to negotiate down, and they're negotiating down 
what they'll pay for crops and for livestock. Farmers are 
caught in the middle, very often watching their margins shrink 
year after year.
    Market consolidation has, of course, raised some additional 
concerns. Just two companies now control about 90 percent of 
corn seed genetics. Four firms produce roughly 75 percent of 
the nitrogen fertilizer used in this country. In cattle, four 
meat packers handle about 85 percent of fed cattle slaughter 
capacity in America. Consolidation's impacts are felt not just 
on the farm, but all the way to the grocery store where 
consumers face fewer choices and, fairly consistently, higher 
prices at the same time. In addition to consolidation, 
sometimes regulations add to the problem, even when this is 
unintended as it sometimes is. Federal regulations often impose 
compliance costs that small operators simply can't shoulder. 
What often may start as safety measures can become barriers 
that keep new competitors out of the market altogether. They 
serve as a sort of moat an anticompetitive moat around the 
industry, and they can exclude people from becoming competitors 
who might otherwise reach that status.
    Now, this is why I've been an original co-sponsor of the 
Processing Revival and Intrastate Meat Market Exemption Act, 
also known as the PRIME Act. This bill takes a commonsense 
approach. It would let States set their own inspection 
standards for meat that's processed and sold entirely within a 
single State's boundaries. The Constitution, properly 
understood and understood based on its text and based on its 
original public meaning at the time of its adoption, simply 
does not support the proposition that Federal regulatory 
authority should extend to commerce as to products that never 
cross State lines to begin with. By removing this onerous 
Federal regulatory footprint and allowing States to play their 
role where it's appropriate for States to play, we could help 
small processors compete far more effectively. More processors 
would mean farmers would have more options as to where they 
could sell their products, which would strengthen local 
economies and build resilient food systems.
    We also need strong enforcement efforts to address some of 
our competition issues. President Trump's Agricultural 
Competition Task Force is a joint effort between the U.S. 
Department of Justice Antitrust Division and the U.S. 
Department of Agriculture. It's an effort that brings together 
DOJ's enforcement authority and USDA's deep knowledge of 
agricultural markets. It's a comprehensive approach designed to 
root out anticompetitive behavior.
    The Task Force is tackling these problems head on. DOJ is 
investigating price-fixing schemes and allegations of 
collusion. They're taking a fresh look at past mergers to see 
how they may have impacted the state of competition. They're 
examining whether dominant firms are sharing information in 
ways that let them illegally coordinate their actions. The Task 
Force is also going after predatory pricing where dominant 
corporations deliberately sell at prices below cost to drive 
smaller rivals out of business so that they can then seize a 
dominant position and, of course, addressing patent abuses that 
stifle innovation and keep new competitors locked out.
    The Task Force also recognizes that we need to address the 
structural problems that created these issues in the first 
place. Take the cost squeeze farmers face every planting 
season. When essential inputs, such as seed and fertilizer, 
become more expensive, farmers' profit margins inevitably 
shrink. These costs stay high because of limited competition, 
and when farmers face these market conditions, we're not just 
looking at an agricultural problem, we're looking at a broader 
threat that reaches across the economy and into our Nation's 
food security, something that we pay a lot of attention to in 
this town.
    Competitive markets are essential infrastructure, you might 
say, within our economy. When competition works, innovation 
flourishes because new ideas can break through because they 
have every incentive to do so. Consumers benefit from better 
products at fairer prices, rural communities prosper because 
farmers can earn a decent living, but when competition breaks 
down, we tend to see the opposite of that. Costs climb while 
innovation stalls. Farmers and ranchers look at those shrinking 
markets and wonder if the next generation will have any future 
in farming at all, and we can't let that happen.
    Agricultural markets are not exempt from the rule of law, 
certainly not exempt from our antitrust statutes. Farmers, 
ranchers, and American consumers deserve markets where success 
comes from innovation, efficiency, and hard work, not from 
consolidation or collusion. I look forward to hearing from our 
witnesses today and doing all this with an eye toward keeping 
American agriculture strong for generations to come. In order 
to do that, we all understand that we need robust competition. 
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Grassley [off mic]. Now to the distinguished 
Ranking Member of the Subcommittee on Antitrust, Competition 
Policy, and Consumer Rights, Senator Booker.

           OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. CORY A. BOOKER, 
          A U.S. SENATOR FROM THE STATE OF NEW JERSEY

    Senator Booker. Mr. Chairman, I'm grateful for you and the 
Ranking Member for organizing what I think is a vitally 
important hearing. I want to thank Senator Mike Lee. He and I 
have a whole bunch of overlap, a wide swath of agreement of the 
urgency of these issues, and a lot of common ideas about what 
we need to do about them.
    I want to just start by saying something that doesn't 
really need to be said because it's happening all over this 
country, but American farmers are in crisis. Farms in New 
Jersey and across our country are facing unprecedented 
conditions, and we're seeing a loss of American family farmers 
in a way that could be described as an extinction-level event. 
These are incredible Americans who scratch from the soil the 
food that feeds our families and makes us competitive globally, 
but year after year, they have seen the cost of seed, 
fertilizer, fuel, and land go up while the prices for their 
crops barely budge. And we're going to hear testimony today 
about the serious financial challenges facing our soybean 
farmers really created by the Trump administration's chaotic 
trade policies, and I want folks to hear that because, again, 
I've gone across this country in multiple States and met with 
soybean farmers and seen their true fealty to this Nation and 
their mission.
    But while soybean farmers are struggling, unnecessarily so, 
we need to also remember that many other farmers, including 
farmers growing fruits and vegetables, are also struggling and 
in need of assistance from Congress. They need action from this 
body. They need not us to only rightfully point out the 
problems, but come up with solutions because our food system 
today suffers from, as my colleague, Mike Lee, was saying, 
hyper concentration. A handful of mega corporations now 
dominate every step of the supply chain, and that begins with 
seeds. The seed March market, which used to include hundreds of 
small, regionally based seed companies, is now controlled by 
just a few powerful global corporations: Bayer, Corteva, 
Syngenta. Through mergers and acquisitions and aggressive 
patent practices, these firms have driven out nearly all the 
smaller competitors. As a result, these three companies can 
dictate what seeds are available, what traits they carry, and, 
ultimately, what crops farmers grow.
    Seeds aren't just another input. They are unique because 
they are living organisms, the foundation of our food system, 
which used to be controlled and dictated by great Americans--
individual farmers who know their soil, who are stewards of the 
land--but you have to have good seeds to grow, and they know 
that. For thousands of years, these stewards of our lands, 
these great Americans, saved seeds from one harvest to the next 
and fed America, but in recent decades, this fundamental right 
of farmers to save seeds has literally been stolen from them by 
corporate greed. Monsanto, now Bayer, locked up seeds with 
sweeping utility patents and sued our American farmers for 
doing what they had always done. Saving and replanting the 
progeny of seeds that they planted, that their parents planted, 
that their grandparents planted. Since the 1990's, companies 
have engineered genetically modified seeds with desirable 
traits, like herbicide tolerance or insect resistance. These 
patented seeds are bundled with their own pesticides by 
corporations so farmers are forced to buy the whole package. 
This traps farmers in an expensive system they may not want or 
even need.
    Last November, I sent a letter to the EPA urging them to 
deny the pending re-approval for the pesticide, dicamba. 
Dicamba is notorious for drifting and damaging neighboring 
farms with crops that aren't engineered to withstand it. This 
creates an inescapable lose-lose for our American farmers, 
either by dicamba-resistant seeds or risk your crops being 
destroyed by pesticide drift. It forces farmers into seed 
pesticide bundles and expands corporate control. That's not 
real choice. That's not a free market. It's coercion through 
chemistry.
    Choice is disappearing across our farm economy. It is anti-
free market, and our public research institutions, who have the 
tools to innovate, are steered to serve Bayer and Corteva's 
interests. These corporations not only control research 
funding, but distribution, blocking independent seeds from 
reaching the market. The result: fewer varieties, weaker 
resilience, and lost opportunities to adapt to a rapidly 
changing climate. This is corporate capture of the very first 
link in our food chain, and when you control the seed, you have 
unjust control over farmers, and, ultimately, you control the 
food.
    We are America, the home of the brave and the land of the 
free, but freedom is being stolen by this corporate 
concentration, and it's not just farmers that are hurting 
because of this broken, corrupt system. Consumers also pay the 
price. We must do better. We must restore competition and 
fairness in this system because I know American farmers. Give 
them a fair playing field and they can compete, and they can 
compete with the world, and when our farmers compete, all of 
America wins. So, this means enforcing our antitrust laws and 
placing a moratorium on any new Big Ag mergers. It means 
protecting farmers' rights to save seeds and choose inputs 
based on need. It means continuing the ban on dicamba and 
investing in public research that serves the public interest, 
public research that serves farmers and not corporations. This 
is a moment of urgency. If we do not act now, we will reach a 
point where so many farmers are driven off the land that they 
have been on for generation after generation, land their 
grandfathers and great grandfathers and mothers cleared with 
their own bare hands. What's happening in America is dire. 
Congress must not just talk about the problems. We've got to 
fix them, or American farming as we know it will be forever 
changed.
    I look forward to hearing from the witnesses. Thank you, 
Chairman.
    Chairman Grassley. Thank you, Senator Booker. Now I'll 
introduce the witnesses.
    Noah Coppess is an Iowa farmer. He co-owns Coppess Family 
Farms, Cedar County. He also co-owns Lincoln Way Ag Services, a 
grain-hauling custom pesticide application business. He holds 
an associate degree in applied sciences and agricultural 
mechanization from Kirkwood College. We also have John Latham, 
another fellow Iowan. Mr. Latham is president of Latham Hi-Tech 
Seeds, a company his grandparents founded in 1947. To this day, 
Latham Seed offers corn, soybean, alfalfa cover crop products. 
Mr. Latham holds a Bachelor of Science degree in agriculture 
business from Iowa State University.
    Mr. Caleb Ragland is president of the American Soybean 
Association. He leads also the Kentucky Livestock Coalition. 
Caleb and his wife co-own Magnolia Green and Stock Farm where 
they raise soybeans, corn, and winter wheat. Mr. Ragland holds 
a bachelor's degree in business management and economic finance 
from Bryan College. Mr. Corey Rosenbusch, president and CEO of 
The Fertilizer Institute. Mr. Rosenbusch previously led the 
Global Cold Chain Alliance and worked in Indonesia on the USDA-
sponsored Agricultural Development Initiative through the 
Borlaug Institute. Mr. Rosenbusch holds a degree in 
international development from Harvard and a Bachelor of 
Science degree in agricultural education from Texas A&M.
    Lastly, or not lastly. Andy LaVigne is president and CEO of 
the American Seed Trade Association, which represents companies 
involved in plant breeding, seed production, distribution, and 
related industries. Mr. LaVigne holds a Bachelor of Arts degree 
in political science with a minor in economics from the 
University of Florida. Last, we're joined by Dr. Diana Moss, 
who serves as vice president and director of competition policy 
at the Progressive Policy Institute. Her work includes studying 
antitrust enforcement and sector regulation, including 
agriculture. She previously served and led the American 
Antitrust Institute and served at the Federal Energy Regulatory 
Commission. She has a master's degree from the University of 
Denver and a Ph.D. from Colorado School of Mines.
    I thank you all for appearing. Now I would ask you stand, 
and I will swear you in.
    [Witnesses are sworn in.]
    Chairman Grassley. They all answered affirmatively. Mr. 
Coppess, will you start out with your testimony please, and 
then we'll go to Latham and down the table that way. Proceed.

                  STATEMENT OF NOAH COPPESS, 
           FARMER, COPPESS FAMILY FARMS, STANWOOD, IA

    Mr. Coppess. All right. Hey, everybody. My name is Noah 
Coppess. I'm a fifth-generation farmer from Cedar County, Iowa. 
My wife, Jess, and I farm full time and run an agriculture 
business while raising our two teenage kids, Tucker and Ellie, 
on the farm. We grow commercial corn, seed corn, soybeans, and 
have a small cow herd. Today, I'm here to represent my farm, my 
customers, my county, and my fellow members of the Iowa Farm 
Bureau. I've been involved in my family's row crop farm for my 
entire life. After college, I spent 12 years working in the 
local farm equipment dealership before I left to work on our 
farm full time. After getting our ag service business 
established, we have grown into the fertilizer and pesticide 
sales market and can discuss the challenges we have had and the 
pressures we see on our row crop farm.
    The reality in farming today is we're price takers rather 
than price makers. That's especially true when consolidation 
limits our options. It's further complicated by lack of price 
transparency. With farmers forced to operate at the liberty of 
the market at the front and back end, I have concerns with our 
input and equipment supply chains and their ability to 
manipulate our costs. I recognize that consolidation can offer 
benefits, including cost efficiencies and technological 
adoption, which are critical for meeting our global food 
demand. However, if the market becomes too constricted, it is 
ultimately the farmer who loses.
    Fertilizer pricing has become very volatile with, at times, 
wild swings and costs varying as much as 25 to 50 percent from 
year to year. We are asked to prepay for fertilizer 3 to 6 
months prior to it being applied to the soil and up to 14 
months before the crop will be harvested. Many of the contracts 
are written with a narrow window to get the products applied, 
or the contract expires and the input is repriced at a higher 
value or monthly fees can be applied to extend the contract. 
Phosphate fertilizer has become a bare-minimum usage fertilizer 
on our farm due to the cost. We have invested significant 
capital and time trying to find other ways to manage our 
phosphorus needs as the cost of this input is at a point of 
negative return.
    Following a profitable 2022, farmers lost nearly a quarter 
of their income in just 2 years due to slumping commodity 
prices and record high input costs. That pain was felt on our 
farm, and we're feeling it today. In our ag business, we are a 
startup. We struggle with the supply chain's willingness to 
sell us product due to our low volume and competition with 
their bigger customers. In our area, there are several retail 
locations to buy fertilizer from. However, there are very few 
wholesale options. Regardless of who I work with, we will be 
competing with bigger customers, therefore, struggle to get 
access.
    We use John Deere Operations Center to provide connectivity 
between our equipment, record data in our fields, and implement 
strategic placement of seed, fertilizer, and pesticides. John 
Deere's user agreement mandates they have access to all of the 
data we record from our equipment and the right to do as they 
please with it. We utilize a tool called See & Spray to 
minimize the application of certain herbicides to the weeds the 
sprayer can see from a highly advanced camera and processing 
system. This has reduced the use of pesticides by 50 to 80 
percent. This machine comes with a tech fee charged per acre, 
not applied, so we are paying a usage fee on 50 to 80 percent 
of the fields that we don't even use the product for. We also 
have to pay a significant fee to purchase the upgrade on the 
machine at the beginning. There are other platforms where 
equipment manufacturers have gone to per-acre usage fees that 
we don't use on our farm. We are under heavy pressure to find 
safer and environmentally friendly ways to produce our 
products. How is it that we need to pay for the equipment up 
front and then pay a usage fee in addition to achieve these 
goals?
    We struggle in the seed industry with genetic options. If 
we want a traited seed for pesticide or disease defense, we can 
be at the mercy of what one company has bought from another. In 
effect, we are often getting, genetically, the same or similar 
hybrid from multiple companies in a different bag. This 
situation is prevalent in the soybean side within list traits 
being slow to the marketplace and in rootworm protection with 
corn. We lack options. The consolidation of the companies has 
narrowed up the development of new genetics. On our farm, we 
raise non-GMO and specialty crops when the opportunity aligns 
with our resources. We're struggling with advancements in seed 
genetics to support those areas. With only a couple companies 
owning the majority of the seed production, we're at the mercy 
of what they choose to focus on. We've been planting the same 
soybean variety for 5 years now due to lack of competitive 
options. This limits the resiliency of our farm.
    It's time to take a look into these areas and assess what 
bargaining strength the farmer has today. We have no doubt that 
consolidation will continue, and the challenge for lawmakers 
and the ag industry will be to balance the efficiency with 
fairness and resiliency.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Coppess appears as a 
submission for the record.]
    Chairman Grassley [off mic]. Thank you, Mr. Coppess. Now, 
Mr. Latham.

                   STATEMENT OF JOHN LATHAM, 
         PRESIDENT, LATHAM QUALITY, INC., ALEXANDER, IA

    Mr. Latham. Thank you, Chairman Grassley, Senator Durbin, 
and the entire Committee, for the opportunity to speak with you 
today. My name is John Latham. I'm a third-generation seedsman 
from Alexander in North Central Iowa. My grandfather, Willard 
Latham, started our business in 1947. I own Latham Quality, 
Incorporated, with my wife, Shannon, and my brother, Chris. Our 
independent seed company sells corn, soybeans, and alfalfa seed 
under the Latham brand in seven Upper Midwest States. We also 
operate a soybean production plant and have a corn breeding 
program.
    Independent companies are the lifeblood of rural America 
because we are connected to the farmer customers we serve. 
Independent seed companies can offer products better suited for 
specific geographies than the multinationals. Unfortunately, 
many independent companies are going out of business as these 
multinational companies have become more powerful and, frankly, 
predatory. The seed corn industry is 90 percent controlled by 
two companies--90 percent--including their own brands and 
licensing. Due to this massive consolidation, the price of 
technology on our seeds has gone up significantly since 2021. 
These higher seed royalty prices are contributing to higher 
input costs for farmers and forcing many family farms to close.
    Prices aren't just increasing for the newest and latest 
seed technology, but also in older technologies that are going 
off patent or soon to be off patent. One example is NK603, a 
glyphosate-resistant corn product which went off patent in 
2022. Farmers are being charged the highest royalties ever for 
this off-patent technology. More than 90 percent of biotech-
traded corn in the United States is glyphosate resistant, so 
farmers are paying billions of dollars for seed royalties on a 
trait that has been off patent for 3 years.
    As difficult as it's been for independent companies across 
America, I believe we have been hit the hardest. Latham started 
corn breeding in 2020 with the belief that we could create 
niche corn products that could help our customers fight corn 
diseases, like tar spot. We created products that weren't 
available from our suppliers, but our very modest corn breeding 
program was met with anger from our leading Big Ag provider. 
After a heated discussion about our corn breeding program, in 
April 2022, we were told Latham's corn products would have the 
largest price increase in company history, and it did. Every 
technology, even older technologies that had gone off patent or 
soon to go off patent, were increased.
    Imagine having to license all your technology from your 
largest competitor and then having to give your competitor 
internal company information, including the names and orders of 
all your customers. Imagine putting your hard-earned money into 
a breeding program to help your customers but being forced out 
by the dominant firms in the industry. Imagine being subjected 
to restrictive rebate programs that require you to sell, near 
exclusively, one company's technology in order to qualify for 
those rebates, and imagine relying on those rebates to generate 
any kind of profit. Imagine having your entire year of profits 
being tied to off-the-record funding that can be taken away at 
any time by your largest competitor. Imagine being in a 
business where you don't know your costs of goods before you 
buy it and your competitor can raise your costs at any time. 
Imagine being in a business where the older products that you 
can't sell increase in price, leaving you with a mountain of 
expensive inventory and higher prices for farmers. Imagine 
being in a business where the technology royalty continues to 
increase even after it goes off patent. Seed prices increase 
even when commodity prices are low, and farmers can't even 
break even. Imagine being in an industry where it is impossible 
to capture off-patent genetics because of restrictive licenses 
and scrambled codes of the seed depository. These are the 
unfortunate realities of an independent seed company in an 
industry without competition or oversight. Farmers are paying 
the price with higher input prices. The lack of new breeding 
programs and diversity of genetics is a national security risk 
where a bioterror attack or disease could threaten the Nation's 
corn supply.
    I appreciate very much the opportunity to tell our story 
and the story of other independent seed companies. I do so at 
great personal risk, but I believe our company's story and the 
story of independent, family owned seed companies, and the 
farmer customers that we serve must be told. I look forward to 
taking your questions. Thank you.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Latham appears as a 
submission for the record.]
    Chairman Grassley [off mic]. Thank you, Mr. Latham. Now, 
Mr. Ragland.

            STATEMENT OF CALEB RAGLAND, PRESIDENT, 
           AMERICAN SOYBEAN ASSOCIATION, MAGNOLIA, KY

    Mr. Ragland. Good morning, Chairman Grassley, Ranking 
Member Durbin, and Members of the Senate Judiciary Committee. 
It is an honor to join you today to testify on behalf of the 
American Soybean Association regarding the State of the farm 
economy and the impacts of rising input costs for farmers. My 
name is Caleb Ragland. I'm a ninth-generation farmer from 
Kentucky. I also serve as president of ASA.
    U.S. agriculture is facing significant challenges, which 
are illustrated by rapidly plunging margins for farmers. 
Commodity prices are down nearly 50 percent from highs 
experienced just 3 years ago, and farm production costs 
continue to skyrocket for land, seeds, fertilizers, pesticides, 
and farm machinery, while high interest rates create additional 
pressure. For soybean farmers, the loss of our largest export 
market due to trade retaliation by China has made financial 
problems even worse. We are hopeful that this market will be 
restored following the meeting between Presidents Trump and Xi. 
Still, high production costs and market losses mean soybean 
farmers are expected to face a loss of around $109 an acre for 
this year's crop.
    Farmers are paying more than ever to grow their crops. In 
just 5 years, seed prices have increased by 18 percent, 
fertilizer by 37 percent, pesticides by 25 percent, machinery 
by 23 percent, and interest expense by 37 percent. Seed is a 
key cost consideration for farmers. Advancements in seed 
technology and pesticides have delivered real agronomic 
benefits but at an added cost. The importance of seed quality 
and pesticides to crop protection means farmers cannot cut 
these costs. Fertilizer is a major component of overall 
production cost. Unlike most other farming inputs, fertilizer 
relies on global supply chains, which makes the cost 
unpredictable. This is also a significant input risk that can 
impact the farmer's ability to have an accurate budget.
    While agribusiness has faced much consolidation, ASA has 
not done analysis to provide the Committee with an informed 
position regarding the impact of consolidation on our input 
cost. However, other factors are contributing to higher input 
cost. The U.S. imports $33 billion in inputs annually. For 
high-cost products, like fertilizer and pesticides, tariffs 
create a heavy financial burden. IEEPA tariffs have raised 
tariff-related input expenses for farmers from 1 percent to 
over 12 percent this year. Inputs also depend on the global 
market. Many fertilizers and half of the active ingredients for 
pesticides are imported. Global dynamics, like demand shifts 
and geopolitical issues, also impact prices. The high cost of 
farm production has eroded the financial safety net of soybean 
farmers and has made it harder to weather trade-related market 
losses this year. ASA appreciates actions to investigate 
competition and market dynamics impacting input price 
increases, like the USDA and DOJ competition partnership and 
the introduction of Chairman Grassley's Fertilizer Research 
Act, which ASA supports.
    If high input costs continue on this path, farm 
profitability for row crops, like soybeans, remains dire. As 
Congress and the administration continue to address the overall 
cost of farm production, I would like to highlight three 
immediate achievable opportunities to improve economic 
conditions for soybean farmers. One, remove IEEPA tariffs on 
critical inputs, machinery, and parts, which will immediately 
lower cost of production for farmers. Two, the 45Z tax credit 
and proposed RFS volumes will drive investment in soybean 
processing and biofuel production. That needs to be finalized 
this year. And three, given the state of the farm economy, 
targeted farm assistance is desperately needed to offset trade-
related losses and negative basis being experienced in many 
regions.
    Thank you again for the opportunity to testify on behalf of 
U.S. soybean farmers regarding the impact of rising input cost 
on our industry. ASA appreciates the Committee seeking to 
identify opportunities to improve the state of the farm 
economy. I look forward to your questions.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Ragland appears as a 
submission for the record.]
    Chairman Grassley. Thank you, Mr. Ragland. Now, Mr. 
Rosenbusch.

              STATEMENT OF COREY ROSENBUSCH, CEO, 
            THE FERTILIZER INSTITUTE, ARLINGTON, VA

    Mr. Rosenbusch. Thank you, and good morning, Chairman 
Grassley, Ranking Member Durbin, and Members of the Committee. 
The Fertilizer Institute is made up of importers, wholesalers, 
retailers, and manufacturers that serve our American farmers. 
There are over 200 producers of fertilizers globally, and the 
U.S. is 1 of 3 countries in the world that has more than 20 
unique companies producing fertilizer. Half of the crop yields 
in this world are made possible by the use of fertilizer. I 
grew up in a small rural Texas town of Glenrose where we raised 
hogs and my dad was the FFA advisor, so the highlight of this 
job is to get out into the real world and visit with growers. I 
was recently at a farmer's co-op meeting, and there were two 
critical conversations that came up: the lack of market demand 
for their crops and high input costs.
    Fertilizer prices were at historic lows just a few years 
ago, followed by record highs. This kind of volatility is a 
challenge for growers and for the fertilizer industry because 
without farmers, there would be no fertilizer industry. We 
often speak of fertilizer as a single product, but it is 
actually many different materials, and most of our focus today 
will be on the three macronutrients: nitrogen, phosphate, and 
potash. They're each different resource-dependent materials 
with very different markets.
    The United States does have significant production of 
nitrogen in phosphate. However, we only have a small amount of 
production of potash and import almost 98 percent of our need, 
87 of which percent comes from Canada. The U.S. only accounts 
for about 7 percent of total global fertilizer production, and 
we are a net importer. Overall, 90 percent of all fertilizer 
used in this world is used outside of the United States, so if 
you hear nothing else I say today, please hear this. Fertilizer 
is a globally traded commodity subject to fierce global 
competition and supply and demand.
    To understand that supply and demand, we have to begin with 
geopolitics. China is the world's largest producer of 
fertilizers with about a third of all nitrogen and 40 percent 
of phosphate production. They are currently restricting their 
exports, which are forcing growers to source those tons 
elsewhere. India, which is the second largest consumer of 
fertilizers behind China, procure their products centrally 
through the Federal Government, which is then heavily 
subsidized for their farmers. Conflicts in the Middle East have 
interrupted Egyptian and North African nitrogen operations due 
to the natural gas supply, which is the feedstock for nitrogen, 
largely coming from Israel. When Iran's nuclear facilities were 
destroyed recently, it also seriously disrupted their 
fertilizer production. Iran is the world's second largest 
supplier of urea behind Russia. So, speaking of Russia, it's 
the largest global exporter of fertilizer, and, of course, we 
all know they're still facing sanctions because of the War in 
Ukraine. Russia also supplied a lot of Europe's natural gas, 
which resulted in about 70 percent of Europeans' nitrogen 
production being curtailed a few years ago. That made Europe 
the new marginal producer.
    So, you can see we've had significant global supply 
shortages for fertilizer, but we've also had demand growth. 
Fertilizer demand is tied to crop demand, and 50 percent of all 
the crop nutrients used in the United States is driven by corn, 
and while commodity prices have been low, we saw 8 million 
additional planted acres of corn this year, which created even 
more demand for fertilizer. Many of the largest globally traded 
agricultural commodities that are experiencing price growth, 
thus creating high fertilizer demand, are not even grown in the 
United States, such as canola, coffee, and palm oil. We 
recognize how challenging and frustrating this must be for our 
customer partners at a time when they're experiencing very low 
prices for the crops that they grow, and that's why we want to 
be a partner with our growers and with policymakers to develop 
some solutions.
    In the interest of time, I'll refer to my written testimony 
for a detailed description of those policy solutions, but I can 
summarize it by saying that fertilizer production facilities 
are very capital intensive, sometimes costing as much as $5 
billion for a nitrogen facility or 10 years to develop a potash 
or phosphate mine. But I do want to be very clear that 
fertilizer is a globally traded commodity, so while we cannot 
directly influence prices, we can bolster domestic supply to 
help mitigate geopolitical risks for our American farmers. 
Thank you.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Rosenbusch appears as a 
submission for the record.]
    Chairman Grassley [off mic]. Thank you, Mr. Rosenbusch. 
Now, Mr. LaVigne.

  STATEMENT OF ANDREW LaVIGNE, PRESIDENT & CEO, AMERICAN SEED 
                  ASSOCIATION, ALEXANDRIA, VA

    Mr. LaVigne. Thank you, Chairman Grassley, Ranking Member 
Durbin, and Members of the Committee for the opportunity to 
testify for the hearing today. I'm Andy LaVigne, president and 
CEO of the American Seed Trade Association, or better known as 
ASTA. We were founded in 1883 and are one of the oldest trade 
organizations in the United States. Its membership consists of 
nearly 700 companies involved in seed production, distribution, 
plant breeding, biotechnology, and related industries in North 
America. Our members produce seed, from alfalfa to zucchini, 
and in production systems, from conventional to organic to 
biotechnology.
    Every season, farmers choose seeds that have been improved 
through plant breeding, biotech, and seed treatments. Our 
members ensure that farmers have access to reliable, resilient 
seed varieties tailored to local growing conditions, helping 
them reduce risk and boost crop productivity. Seed development 
and production begins with advanced breeding and research 
programs, moves to seed production with practices ranging from 
large-scale crops to hand-pollinated varieties, then the seed 
crop is harvested and concludes with conditioning, treatment, 
and testing of the seed quality and purity prior to commercial 
sale. This process could take place in multiple countries as 
companies rely on different regional climates and leverage 
multiple growing seasons per year to accelerate the rate of 
both research and seed production activities. Even with this 
highly efficient and optimized process, it can take 8 to 10 
years and several million dollars just to bring a new variety 
to market. Plant breeding and seed improvements is an ongoing 
iterative process that depends on the market, pest and disease 
evolution, and constant fluctuations.
    In the case of seed companies developing biotech products 
or biotech seed, the cost of domestic and international 
regulatory compliance are significant. A study in 2022 
estimates the cost and time to bring a new biotech trade to 
market at roughly $115 million and over 16 years. In export 
markets, particularly for a subset of biotech crops, the seed 
industry faces severe constraints from non-tariff trade 
barriers, including countries that deliberately use their 
regulatory system to stymie American seed innovation and 
exports of American grain products.
    The seed sector has a long history of delivering seed 
choice and ensuring seed performance for America's farmers, 
gardeners, and landscape managers, ensuring the best seed is 
available to meet the needs of the wide range of environments, 
soil types, and management practices. International trade and 
global movement of seed is critical to the U.S. seed industry 
to efficiently develop and commercialize and improve varieties 
for U.S. farmers. Across all seed varieties, the continued 
escalation of tariffs on seed poses a unique challenge. For 
example, a tomato seed can cross six or seven different 
international borders for research and development to do seed 
multiplication and clean and package seed before it's sold to a 
farmer. For each crossing, a tariff may be levied on that same 
seed, burdening the same seed producer multiple times.
    Our industry believes there's a path forward to alleviate 
some of the pressures that both farmers and seed producers 
currently face. First, we're advocating, both domestically and 
internationally, for risk-proportionate, science-based 
regulatory reform to right-size regulatory compliance processes 
and the associated costs that impact companies of all sizes. 
Our advocacy applies to plant breeding innovations, like gene 
editing, as well as biotech crops. Reform is needed to ensure 
that rapid pace of scientific innovation is not hampered by 
unjustified regulatory obstacles. Second, and I'll hit this 
very quickly, but most important is our investment in 
agricultural research, not only from the private sector but 
from the public sector. Our partners in our land grant 
institutions and our research institutions are vital in this 
process as we go forward in discovering the genetics-based 
science, and that needs to continue, and they're stressed as 
all of you know right now. Research at the land grant 
institution is even more important as we look at our lower 
acreage crops. Fruits and vegetables, forages, grasses, turf is 
very important to help in that public/private partnership to 
bring improved varieties to the marketplace.
    So, in closing, from seed to table, the entire agricultural 
value chain is navigating pressures from the brunt of inflation 
and economic uncertainty. We know that farmers are taking this 
economic challenge head on to continue feeding, fueling, and 
clothing the world. Seed producers are weathering it alongside 
them while working to deliver the high-quality, professionally 
produced seed U.S. farmers expect season after season. And when 
farmers buy that bag of seed, they're investing in yield 
potential, resilience to pest and weather, and the ability to 
produce more with less. They're investing in better seed for 
better crops for better quality of life. Thank you, Chairman 
Grassley, Ranking Member Durbin, and Members of the Committee. 
I look forward to answering the questions.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. LaVigne appears as a 
submission for the record.]
    Chairman Grassley. Thank you, Mr. LaVigne. Now, Dr. Moss.

    STATEMENT OF DIANA MOSS, VICE PRESIDENT AND DIRECTOR OF 
 COMPETITION POLICY, PROGRESSIVE POLICY INSTITUTE, WASHINGTON, 
                               DC

    Dr. Moss. Thank you, Chairman Grassley, Ranking Member 
Durbin, and Members of the Committee. It's an honor to be here 
today. I am Diana Moss, director of competition policy at the 
Progressive Policy Institute.
    Seeds and fertilizers feature highly concentrated markets 
with only a few firms, high prices, and little choice. Both 
sectors have been the subject of massive consolidation and 
strategic business practices. In the late 2010's, the six large 
agricultural biotechs merged to form the Big Three. Today, two 
firms control 72 percent of the corn seed market and 66 percent 
of the soybean market. Three firms control 83 percent of the 
cotton seed market. Fertilizer markets are also highly 
concentrated. The four-firm ratio for nitrogen in the U.S. is 
about 77 percent, and the four-firm ratio for potash and 
phosphates is 100 percent. These are big numbers. Highly 
concentrated markets are far more conducive to anticompetitive 
coordination rather than the hard-nosed competition that lowers 
prices, lowers licensing fees, tech fees, and royalty rates.
    So, what does high concentration mean for input costs and 
food prices? To be sure, they are affected by the dynamics of 
supply and demand, shocks to supply chains, such as weather and 
disease and U.S. trade policies. But as seed and fertilizer 
markets have become more concentrated, it is hard to dispute 
that consolidation and business practices have played a major 
role. U.S. farmers struggle with the high cost of intermediate 
inputs, such as seeds, pesticides, and fertilizers, which 
account for almost 40 percent of their total intermediate 
production costs. In the last 30 years, the average price 
farmers paid for genetically modified seed rose by almost 450 
percent, while their commodity prices increased by only 50 
percent. In fertilizers, prices for phosphorus, potash, 
nitrogen spiked dramatically in 2008, again in 2012, and again 
in 2022, raising concerns about the potential for collusion 
amongst global fertilizer producers. All of this puts the 
squeeze on farmers' margins.
    The Crop Farm Index for prices farmers receive for their 
commodities has remained consistently below the index for 
prices paid by farmers for feed, fuels, seeds, and fertilizers. 
These supra-competitive input prices initially harm farmers, 
but they quickly translate into high food prices for consumers 
who are already grappling with a high cost of living. Consumers 
spend 13 percent of their limited budgets on food, the third-
largest budget item behind housing and transportation. Public 
concern about food price inflation is at an all-time high.
    In light of these troubling trends, I believe we need to 
widen the lens on competition and agricultural inputs. 
Antitrust's role has been less than exemplary as concerns over 
excessive consolidation in ag biotech and potential price 
fixing in fertilizers has gone largely unpursued. The agencies 
have also ignored other costs of consolidation, such as 
delaying entry of generic GM seed, bundled cropping systems 
that are engineered not to operate with other products and lock 
out smaller innovators. Antitrust has also ignored the loss of 
stability and resiliency in supply chains that are created by 
market power bottlenecks. These issues now transcend 
traditional competition policy concerns.
    U.S. farmers should be able to count on fair commodity 
prices, input costs, and sustainable margins. Consumers should 
be able to count on low food prices. Both farmers and 
consumers--most important--should be able to count on having 
choice in what they buy and who they buy it from. A more 
coherent policy approach is to strengthen antitrust 
enforcement. Another approach is to require more or better 
coordination between the DOJ, the FTC, and USDA, including 
better data collection to promote price transparency. We might 
also consider giving USDA authority to intervene if 
consolidation raises supply chain safety, stability, and 
resiliency issues. With farmers in the middle of this vortex, 
we should also be very worried that high concentration costs, 
prices, and a lack of choice risk the permanent loss of U.S. 
agricultural productive capacities if farmers hang up their 
hats and close down their farms. This all means that promoting 
competition should garner broad bipartisan support.
    I appreciate the opportunity to appear here today and look 
forward to your questions.
    [The prepared statement of Dr. Moss appears as a submission 
for the record.]
    Chairman Grassley. I compliment all of you for staying 
within the 5 minutes. We're going to have 5-minute rounds of 
questioning. You'll see Members in and out because there's two 
votes on the floor, so we'll take turns questioning.
    Mr. Rosenbusch, in 2014, the Obama administration 
discontinued annual reports on the fertilizer industry. Since 
then, prices have become more and more opaque, making it harder 
for farmers to know if they're getting a fair deal. My 
Fertilizer Research Act seeks to fill in these reporting gaps. 
So, could you tell us what measures are being taken to ensure 
transparency and pricing mechanisms so farmers aren't unfairly 
penalized by last-minute price increases?
    Mr. Rosenbusch. Mr. Chairman, thank you for that question, 
and we fully support your efforts to provide transparency to 
growers. We believe them having information about what's going 
on in the marketplace is very critical. We've been working with 
your staff, your team, as well as on the House side to 
reinstate the position at the United States Department of 
Agriculture that has been vacant for more than 20 years now 
that was focused on fertilizer pricing and transparency. We 
believe growers having that independent source at USDA would be 
of tremendous benefit to growers and to farmers to be able to 
recognize and understand all of these dynamics that are going 
on and help them make decisions.
    Chairman Grassley. Would that also cover price transparency 
that you're talking about?
    Mr. Rosenbusch. Yes. They would also be doing research on 
prices globally, United States. They would be looking at a 
variety of different factors. Iowa State also did a research or 
a report on this a couple of years ago, but we believe that 
position would be helpful long term.
    Chairman Grassley. Okay. Dr. Moss, in your opinion, what 
types of public reporting could provide the necessary 
transparency in fertilizer markets for farmers looking for a 
fair price?
    Dr. Moss. Thank you for the question, Chairman Grassley. I 
think, first and foremost, increasing price reporting to 
promote transparency would be incredibly helpful not only for 
members of the industry, but for organizations like mine, think 
tanks, and university researchers to be able to do analysis of 
the markets and the prices that are emerging from highly 
concentrated markets. Price transparency remains a problem in 
agricultural inputs, but also in cattle and ranching, so I 
think that, in fact, the starting point is to improve and to 
promote coherent, efficient price collection data bases so that 
we can have better tools to work with.
    Chairman Grassley. For Mr. Latham, Mr. Coppess, major 
mergers and business transactions over the last decade reduced 
the Big Six ag companies to only four. U.S. Department of 
Agriculture Economic Research Service reports that Bayer and 
Corteva together account for more than half of the U.S. sales 
of corn, soybean, and cotton seed. What impact does this have 
on your business? Has there been an impact on the number of 
corn or soybean varieties available to farmers?
    Mr. Latham. Thank you for the question, Senator. It's been 
a huge impact on our business, especially in the last 5 years. 
My brother and I, who's with me today--Chris--we were looking 
at prices over the last 5 years. Five years ago, 42 percent of 
a bag of seed went to seed royalties. Now 70 percent of a bag 
of seed goes to seed royalties, and, unfortunately, there's 
been no new innovation. These are the existing products that we 
had 5 years ago. There's been no new innovation, no upgrade. 
There are some new products but, overall, from 42 percent to 70 
percent has risen prices tremendously, and they did it because 
commodity prices were good at the time a few years ago, and 
they said, well, farmers can afford it now. So, the prices went 
up significantly, and now, unfortunately, commodity prices are 
down, and those prices haven't gone down at all.
    Chairman Grassley. Mr. Coppess.
    Mr. Coppess. Thanks for the question, Senator Grassley. On 
our farm, when we purchase seed, I have a relationship I enjoy 
with a company and a seed person that we work with, and I'm not 
looking to change that relationship, but we have very little to 
no price bargaining. The price is the price, and it's 
consistently gone up every year with some slight changes. If a 
product doesn't perform, it might be a little cheaper the next 
year, but we've seen no relief in pricing of our seed 
commodities.
    Chairman Grassley. Okay. Dr. Moss, in your opinion, if a 
trade owner conditions access in ways that predictably raises 
rivals cost or limit stacking with competing traits, is that a 
problem and should it trigger enforcement?
    Dr. Moss. Yes, I do believe that is a problem. One of the 
biggest issues that we face right now is with the large ag-
biotech mergers. We now see highly integrated, engineered 
systems of traits development, traited seed, agrochemicals, and 
now digital farming. It is very, very difficult for smaller 
innovators--say, independent seed companies or independent 
trade innovators--to penetrate markets, to get into a market, 
get a foothold, and to compete and effectively distribute their 
technologies when they are facing an enormous castle wall of a 
vertically integrated platform. And if companies hold a 
dominant position in any of those markets, that makes the walls 
even higher to scale.
    Chairman Grassley. Yes. Senator Durbin, before you go, has 
the vote started yet? Well, we'll wait and see. If we do, then 
Senator Lee's going to take over. Go ahead.
    Senator Durbin. Thanks, Senator Grassley. I'd like to say a 
word and get your reaction on the question of agricultural 
research. Since the 1930's, U.S. Government-funded ag research 
has helped to boost our farm output by 170 percent, according 
to the USDA. Today, most agricultural research in the U.S. is 
funded by large private sector companies, not the Government. 
Agricultural research funded by the U.S. Government has 
plummeted in the past 30 years, while Chinese Government 
investment in ag research has risen 8 times, surpassing the 
U.S. 10 years ago. Today, China is the world's biggest funder 
of government-funded farm research. The Trump administration 
and the DOGE cowboys want the USDA to close and consolidate a 
federally funded laboratory at the University of Illinois, the 
Soybean Germplasm Collection, which is the genetic seed bank 
whose scientists, since the 1940's, have cured soybean disease, 
improved soybean yields, and developed new varieties and uses, 
again, creating new markets for farmers. If this lab and its 
resources are closed or diminished, there is only one other 
remaining lab. You want to guess where it is? China. Is there 
anyone on this panel that thinks that's a good idea?
    [Nonverbal responses.]
    Senator Durbin. Obviously not. Mr. Latham, that kind of 
resource in agri and Federal research has to be part of your 
calculation as well when you talk about innovation, is it not?
    Mr. Latham. Yes. I would love to see more investment in ag 
research from public universities. That'd be very helpful.
    Senator Durbin. Well, I hope you'll all express that to 
your Members of Congress and the people you talk to.
    Dr. Moss, over the last decade, as you've noted and others 
as well, a series of mergers and acquisitions produce Big Three 
companies that dominate different sectors. In the seed sectors, 
it's Bayer, Corteva, and Syngenta. A similar trend produced the 
Big Three in fertilizer, Mosaic, Nutrien, and CF. Should 
antitrust enforcers at the FTC and Department of Justice have 
done more to block these mergers that produces the Big Three in 
seed and fertilizer?
    Dr. Moss. Thank you, Senator Durbin. The answer is an 
unequivocal yes. These massive mergers, which have completely 
restructured our seeds and fertilizer industries, are now 
responsible for high prices, limited choice, and less effective 
innovation. The major problem with antitrust today, especially 
in food and agriculture, is a very narrow view that antitrust 
takes in defining markets. The divestitures that were taken in 
the Bayer-Monsanto and the Dow-DuPont mergers were very 
targeted, very small, and there was a lot of deference to 
giving companies their mergers so that they could innovate 
better or innovate faster. We now know that high levels of 
concentration are not necessary to drive innovation, and these 
mergers, on balance, produced more harm than good.
    Senator Durbin. Do you believe the FTC and DOJ need new 
legal tools to stop the anticompetitive practices of these 
dominant firms, or is it simply a matter of stepping up 
oversight and enforcement?
    Dr. Moss. I think antitrust plays a very important role 
given the limited set of tools, but powerful tools antitrust 
works with. The consumer welfare standard can approach concerns 
about high prices, about lower quality, about less innovation, 
but the bottom line is most of antitrust enforcement just 
focuses on prices. The kinds of problems we see in food and ag 
are bottleneck supply chains, loss of resiliency and stability, 
a delay of generic entry. These are all things that are much, 
much harder for antitrust to approach in the normal course of a 
merger investigation or a monopolization investigation, which 
is why I mentioned we might want to start thinking about giving 
USDA more authority.
    Senator Durbin. Mr. Rosenbusch, how do you respond to those 
observations?
    Mr. Rosenbusch. Thank you, Senator, for that question. We 
believe we need a strong domestic fertilizer industry to 
compete in a global marketplace, especially when you're looking 
at countries that are often State-owned enterprises producing 
fertilizers. We think the FTC has taken a close look at this. 
As a matter of fact, in the last 2 years, the two acquisitions 
in this space were carefully studied by the FTC and reviewed, 
and we've also seen the USDA, 2 years ago, go through a 
competitive analysis of the industry to ensure that we are 
competing on a global level and global supply and demand for--
--
    Senator Durbin. Excuse me for interrupting, but I have just 
20 seconds left. The farmers who are buying your product say 
you're killing them. You've consolidated, so they have few 
choices, take-it-or-leave-it choices, and your prices are 
killing them. When you say you're competitive globally, it 
doesn't help the farmer in Illinois and Iowa to know that the 
global market is competitive. How do you respond to that?
    Mr. Rosenbusch. We need the farmers to succeed. They need 
access to fertilizer----
    Senator Durbin. But you're killing them with your prices.
    Mr. Rosenbusch. And those are all driven by global supply 
and demand. A lot of these geopolitical events and reliance on 
some of that foreign supply coming in is a huge impact on that.
    Senator Durbin. Thank you.
    Senator Lee [presiding]. Mr. Latham, I'd like to start with 
you, if that's okay. Where are the main barriers that 
independent seed companies face when licensing or stacking 
patented traits in this industry?
    Mr. Latham. Where do I begin? There's a long list, a lot of 
areas that I could go into. You know, one thing that I think 
has hurt the industry in general, we have these restrictive 
rebates that we're under, which really stifle competition 
because if a new breeding company comes into the market and if 
the whole industry is under a rebate, that if they go to that 
new innovator, they're going to lose their rebate and could 
fall off a cliff there. So, I think that's one thing that's 
really impacting the whole industry, and there's a whole longer 
list, and I know you have short time.
    Senator Lee. Now, when we think about intellectual property 
laws, they're kind of a paradox because, on the one hand, the 
whole point of intellectual property laws is to give someone at 
least a temporary monopoly in something, but on the other hand, 
they are pro-competitive to the extent that it fosters 
innovation. In your view, how does our current intellectual 
property framework either help or hinder competition or 
innovation?
    Mr. Latham. Yes. I think I'm all for patents and 
intellectual property protection. Obviously, that can create 
innovation. You have to have that to have innovation, but, 
unfortunately, we see some of these patents where the products 
get stacked with some new product only to be able to use to 
extend that patent, and so the patents go from 20 years to many 
more years. And unfortunately, in 2014, a lot of different corn 
traits went off patent, and we still don't have any market now 
for off-patent technology on the corn side of the business, so 
something needs to fundamentally change.
    Senator Lee. What about consolidation? When there's 
consolidation among the major players in the seed industry and 
among trait owners, how does that influence your research and 
development strategy internally?
    Mr. Latham. Yes. Unfortunately, on the corn side, and you 
mentioned the stat, too--90 percent--and that includes 
licensing as well as their own brands. But when you have that 
big of consolidation, it makes it very difficult for any new 
innovator to get into the market. Especially if they want to do 
traited or just even conventional, it makes it very difficult, 
so, we've seen. Since 2016, when the Committee met last, we've 
seen massive consolidation, we've seen less innovation, and 
we've seen much higher prices, unfortunately, for our farmer 
customers.
    Senator Lee. Those two things naturally lead one to 
another, right? I mean, diminished competition pretty much 
always is going to result in higher prices----
    Mr. Latham. Absolutely.
    Senator Lee [continuing]. Or at least diminished quality, 
sometimes both.
    Mr. Latham. Absolutely.
    Senator Lee. And there's no exception to that here and the 
more consolidation you see, regardless of what the cause of 
that is. But let's suppose if it's prompted by an excessive 
Federal regulatory footprint, that can do it, but regardless of 
what the cause is, there are fewer competitors. There is often 
less competition, and, always, when you see less competition, 
that causes other problems. Mr. Coppess, have you noticed 
reduced competition or consolidation among local dealers or 
fewer independent options over time?
    Mr. Coppess. Thank you for the question. Yes, the 
independent seed companies, when somebody retires, moves on, 
oftentimes that doesn't get replaced by a younger person or a 
new person taking on that business. That dealership just goes 
away oftentimes.
    Senator Lee. Okay. That's helpful. And, Mr. Ragland, how 
does dependence on imported potash and imported nitrogen affect 
the U.S. growers' resilience and planning?
    Mr. Ragland. Well, as we mentioned in our testimony, it's a 
global market, requires a lot of planning ahead. There's global 
forces at work, and we have a very limited number of options 
where we can purchase, and the less competition, oftentimes the 
higher the prices are.
    Senator Lee. Right.
    Mr. Ragland. And we have some data we provided that shows 
that since the Ukraine War, in particular, prices spiked up 
drastically when that started. They came back down, but they 
have plateaued at a much higher cost than they were before.
    Senator Lee. Than they were before the war.
    Mr. Ragland. Yes. Yes.
    Senator Lee. They never fully retreated.
    Mr. Ragland. No, not anywhere close, and that has had a 
major impact across all of production and agriculture.
    Senator Lee. Right. Somewhat reminiscent of what happened 
during COVID.
    Mr. Ragland. Yes.
    Senator Lee. And finally, Mr. Rosenbusch, how did dealer 
incentive programs work in practice, and did they inadvertently 
limit fair competition?
    Mr. Rosenbusch. Thank you for that question, Senator Lee. 
On the fertilizer side, we do not have dealer incentive 
practices. That's more of a crop protection practice.
    Senator Lee. Okay. Thank you. My time has expired. Senator 
Klobuchar is up next.
    Senator Klobuchar. Okay. Thank you very much, Senator Lee, 
and thank you to the Chairman and Ranking Member for holding 
this hearing. I'm used to seeing many of you. I'm Ranking 
Member, as you know, on Ag, especially you, Mr. Ragland. I know 
you've testified before. I also note that Gail Slater is here, 
the head of antitrust for the Justice Department, who has had 
widespread support on this Committee.
    So, one of my farmers, a soybean farmer actually, described 
this situation right now as a perfect storm of ugly. He talked 
about the input costs, some of which are caused by 
consolidation that we've been so well talking about today, 
talking about what's happening with labor and the fact that we 
are missing some ag workers right now, and I think there's 
another way this could be handled. Talked about the tariffs and 
IEEPA, and I note that with soybeans, and I am, you know, glad 
that there's discussions going on, but even if that somehow 
that market came back immediately, as you know, Mr. Ragland, 
which it won't do, it's still a horror for our farmers in terms 
of half of their market is China, but the other half is other 
countries, nearly all of which are also subject to these 
tariffs.
    And so, I just think that if you look at this as a whole, 
and not just with soybeans, but for other crops, and what's 
happening with machine parts, as you point out, that this is a 
really hard thing that's going on right now, and I would like 
to see a reversal of these tariffs. I think that would be the 
quickest way to solve many of these problems, but let's start 
with market consolidation, and I'll start with you, Mr. Latham. 
What would it mean to you to have real competition in the seed 
market?
    Mr. Latham. Thank you for the question, Senator.
    Senator Klobuchar. Yes.
    Mr. Latham. It would mean everything to us, I think, if you 
had no restrictive rebates. The rebates are very punitive for 
independent companies. If you had broad licensing, I think you 
could see a flood of new breeding companies into the market, 
which is vastly needed. I think with gene editing, there's a 
whole host of new technologies we could take advantage of, but 
right now, when you've got a couple different companies that 
are controlling the whole market, it makes it very difficult 
for our company----
    Senator Klobuchar. Okay. Thank you.
    Mr. Latham [continuing]. To invest in new technology.
    Senator Klobuchar. Thank you. That's helpful. Ms. Moss, 
quickly, how does consolidation affect the resiliency of the ag 
system?
    Dr. Moss. Thank you, Senator Klobuchar, for the question. 
Consolidation is now responsible, in many food ag supply chains 
as well as in healthcare, for creating enormous market power 
bottlenecks where you have powerful companies, oligopolies, or 
dominant firms controlling prices paid to producers, but then 
also controlling prices that consumers have to pay in the 
grocery store. These bottlenecks are really susceptible to 
instability. If a supply chain is hit by some sort of exogenous 
shock, like weather or disease as we saw with COVID, then there 
are very few other competitors to step in, and so supply chains 
go down, and that is not only a national security issue, but a 
health and human safety issue.
    Senator Klobuchar. And just a quick answer on this because 
I called you as a witness many times when I Chaired the 
Antitrust Subcommittee, now working with Senator Blackburn on 
the Tech Subcommittee. Would reform to our antitrust laws with 
either the CLARITY bill or the bill that Senator Grassley and I 
have introduced, which is just beyond specific industries, 
would that be helpful when it comes to these issues?
    Dr. Moss. Absolutely, yes.
    Senator Klobuchar. Okay.
    Dr. Moss. Anything to strengthen, modernize, and clarify 
our laws.
    Senator Klobuchar. Okay. Thank you. Mr. Ragland, could you 
talk about the market for soybeans outside of China and what's 
happening with some of that as well because I think all the 
focus gets on China, but there's a lot of other countries.
    Mr. Ragland. Well, those markets outside of China are 
roughly half of our exports. China's the other half of our 
exports, and those markets are fairly strong, but they're only 
a limited amount of the demand for our product, and that gaping 
hole that is left by the lack of the China involvement is----
    Senator Klobuchar. Mm-hmm.
    Mr. Ragland [continuing]. Very detrimental on our prices 
right now.
    Senator Klobuchar. And is the tariffs under IEEPA affecting 
all of these markets?
    Mr. Ragland. Yes.
    Senator Klobuchar. Mm-hmm. That's what my----
    Mr. Ragland. Yes.
    Senator Klobuchar. So, in my State, about 60 percent of the 
soybeans are exported, which is pretty high. Do you want to 
talk about, just in general, the export market, which we 
cherish, and not just for soybeans, but corn and other things, 
why that's such an integral part of American agriculture 
because we're not going to eat everything we make.
    Mr. Ragland. Yes. Soybeans are the largest ag export from 
this country, and it's so vital to the economy, not just of 
agriculture, but of rural America.
    Senator Klobuchar. Mm-hmm.
    Mr. Ragland. And that gaping hole that is left by the lack 
of the China involvement right now is going to trickle down to 
our rural communities and rural economies----
    Senator Klobuchar. Mm-hmm.
    Mr. Ragland [continuing]. And have a very detrimental 
impact because rural America agriculture is the backbone of 
rural America.
    Senator Klobuchar. Right. I think we make about 20 percent 
more than we use here, and that is what allows us to keep going 
and why this is such, as my farmer called it, a perfect storm 
of ugly. Thank you.
    Mr. Ragland. Thanks.
    Senator Grassley. Senator Britt is next, but I hope we can 
keep this hearing on [off mic] competition and price 
transparency. Go ahead, Senator Britt.
    Senator Britt. Thank you. Mr. Chairman, thank you for 
holding this hearing on this critical and timely issue.
    Agriculture is the bedrock of Alabama's economy. So, 1 in 5 
jobs in our State are tied to the agriculture industry. I am so 
proud of our farmers and what they do, knowing that they feed 
and clothe people, not just coast to coast, but across the 
world, you know, ranking in the top States in the country, 
Alabama does, when it comes to poultry, when it comes to 
catfish, peanuts, cotton, and we are really proud of the work 
that our farmers do. And Alabama farmers are acutely familiar, 
though, with the impact of skyrocketing input costs and what 
that's done on the bottom line. When we look at, like, the last 
4 years, knowing that input costs, I mean, have gone up across 
the board, but that our agriculture community has been hit the 
hardest, and just knowing that farmers are experiencing record-
breaking yields, but yet losing hundreds of dollars an acre. 
And so, when you try to square these things up, you know that 
we have to do something. In fact, based on historical yields, 
every major row crop, from peanuts to cotton to soybeans, will 
be produced at a loss in 2025.
    And so, food security is national security. We say that all 
the time, but we also know that our agriculture community and 
our farmers are the bedrock of our rural communities, and if 
farmers are not thriving, our rural communities are not either, 
and so there is so much at stake in making sure that we get 
this right. There are real concerns with the limited number of 
companies that provide seed, fertilizer, and crop protection 
products to our farmers, but that consolidation doesn't stop 
with inputs. We also see the same consolidation in packers, in 
equipment manufacturers, and in farms to a certain extent. Crop 
input suppliers, manufacturers, and farmers have generally been 
forced to grow larger to achieve economies of scale and 
increase productivity while attempting to decrease costs.
    I want to start with Mr. LaVigne. It's clear that the 
primary driver of consolidation across the industry is a desire 
to lower costs. We've seen the consolidation, but instead of 
prices going down for our farmers, we've actually seen the 
opposite. Can you speak to some of the outside pressures that 
have prevented the industry from achieving true economies of 
scale?
    Mr. LaVigne. Senator Britt, thank you for that question 
very much. As we've continued to innovate in the agriculture 
industry, especially on the seed side, the cost of the 
regulatory compliance, especially in the GM or the biotech 
arena, has increased dramatically, and working with the grain 
industry to ensure that the markets that we export to, or our 
farmers export to, are open and have transparent processes to 
review those new products that come to market has been extreme. 
We've seen that in China, and we share the Chairman's comments 
that we hope to see good news come out of that this week 
because we were supposed to have those approvals in a phase one 
deal with China, and now we don't have those. So, the 
regulatory costs have become extremely high and challenging as 
we try to bring new products to market.
    But I think we've got several regulations in place that are 
out of date. We have a very strong safety record with the 
production of new varieties and biotech traits. Over the last 
30 years under the Coordinated Framework, that has not evolved. 
We've not changed that process to make it more efficient for 
new companies to come into the marketplace as well as new 
products, and it's become harder and less science-based. The 
same with new varieties. As we look at, as John mentioned, gene 
editing as a tool, how is FDA, EPA, and USDA going to manage 
those policies coming into the marketplace? If they're too 
burdensome, it will be restricted to large companies that can 
afford the regulatory process.
    Senator Britt. Thank you so much for that, and I want to 
stay on that theme. Look, I've been encouraged by many of the 
things that Administrator Zeldin has done and the things he is 
looking at doing in the future. My question, Mr. Rosenbusch, 
is, in what ways do Federal regulations impact your member's 
companies' ability to bring innovation and affordable products 
to market?
    Mr. Rosenbusch. Thank you, Senator Britt, for that 
outstanding question because it is a huge impact on our 
manufacturers that are wanting to innovate and bring new 
products or even grow supply domestically. As we look to expand 
mining operations or build a new ammonia plant, you've got 
environmental permitting that needs to be streamlined. You also 
have new products. That you know, it's difficult to know where 
they get regulated, and so as you think about some bio-
stimulant products that we're looking at or even tools that 
help nitrogen be more efficient, getting through the process at 
EPA or ensuring that it's regulated to the State level, which 
is where most fertilizer is regulated, is critical to giving 
farmers additional tools, especially in these difficult market 
times.
    Senator Britt. Thank you so much. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Grassley. Senator Booker.
    Senator Booker. Mr. Chairman, as always, I'm grateful for 
the deference. I want to thank all the witnesses. Your 
testimony was very, I would say, frankly, invaluable.
    Mr. Latham, I'd like to start perhaps with a question for 
you. Despite two court orders in 2020 and 2024 banning dicamba 
use because of its damage to neighboring farms, causing 
millions of acres of crop loss, the Trump EPA, headed by a 
former industry lobbyist, recently proposed to reauthorize the 
herbicide. What impact would it have on your rural community 
and the farmers that you serve if EPA again approves dicamba 
for over-the-top use?
    Mr. Latham. Yes. Thank you very much for the question, 
Senator Booker. I, frankly, believe, I mean, we've seen enough 
issues that I think the technology is good and is needed 
because we need to be able to fight against weed resistance, 
but yet over-the-top causes so many issues that I don't think 
that it should be approved for over-the-top use.
    Senator Booker. That's great, because if it was, what would 
happen to the communities if it was again approved for over-
the-top use?
    Mr. Latham. I mean, unfortunately, we've seen 
volatilization, we've seen drift into other crops, and, you 
know, and vineyards and different things, so it's become an 
issue in rural areas.
    Senator Booker. So, knowing what you know, what you just 
stated about how harmful it is and would be, as a practical 
manner, if it's once again approved, would your seed company 
have any discretion in whether or not to sell dicamba-tolerant 
seeds?
    Mr. Latham. You know, unfortunately, probably with the 
rebates, we would probably have to sell it to be able to make 
our rebates, unfortunately.
    Senator Booker. I mean, that seems stunning to me that 
something that you know should not be used in this way, but 
just to stay competitive in the market, you would have to sell 
it. Does that strike you as indicative of free market 
capitalism?
    Mr. Latham. It does not, and I don't like it either. I 
mean, I think we should be able to sell what our customers want 
and the best value for them.
    Senator Booker. Yes, and it really strikes me as not just 
an assault on free market capitalism, but something almost akin 
to an authoritarian system where you're told what you have to 
do, what you have to plant, what chemicals you have to use, and 
that's something that is very un-American to me. Would you 
agree?
    Mr. Latham. I agree.
    Senator Booker. Dr. Moss, I'm going to soon be introducing 
legislation to not only require--excuse me--not only place a 
moratorium on any new Big Ag mergers, but also require the DOJ 
to do a lookback at the biggest mergers over the last 20 years 
in the food and agricultural sectors to unwind any mergers that 
the DOJ finds caused material harm to competition, or to 
farmers, or to workers or consumers. Dr. Moss, do you think 
that this type of lookback would be beneficial, and if it was 
conducted, do you expect that many of the previously approved 
mergers would be found to have caused material harm?
    Dr. Moss. Thank you, Senator Booker, for that really good 
question. Yes, I think the value of retrospective studies for 
consummated mergers is really critical and invaluable. We in 
the economics community have agitated and urged and encouraged 
enforcers to spend more time doing lookbacks. Of course, 
they're resource intensive, and I know there are a number of 
pieces of legislation that would fund those types of efforts. I 
think at the stage we are at in food and ag, with the high 
levels of concentration and demonstrable evidence of high 
prices and slower innovation, the lookbacks would be really 
important. Ultimately, it's really up to the agencies to 
enforce very strong structural presumption against highly 
concentrative mergers. Unfortunately, we're still not there, 
and in the Dow-DuPont and the Bayer-Monsanto mergers, those 
structural presumptions for high concentration did not get a 
lot of attention, and now we're paying the price for that.
    Senator Booker. I mean, we consumers are paying the price 
for it, but our farmers are paying a tremendous price as this 
concentration of these very powerful companies, who now, 
frankly, thanks to Citizens United, poured millions and 
millions of dollars advocating for their mergers down here in 
Washington, but the real people being harmed are consumers, 
but, frankly, are our farmers themselves. And that brings up a 
final question, and I'm hoping Noah, I really appreciated your 
testimony, but given the extreme consolidation within America's 
agricultural industry, do you have any flexibility to purchase 
seeds or fertilizers from firms other than the Big Four?
    Mr. Coppess. Thank you for the question, Mr. Booker. We 
have retail locations that serve the needs for the fertilizer. 
We don't have the on-farm storage to handle some of those 
products. It's unclear often who the wholesale manufacturer is 
for that product, but you can tell when you go from retail to 
retail to retail and the price is the same, that we're coming 
from the same place.
    Senator Booker. Thank you. As the Chairman knows, I spent a 
lot of time in Iowa and met a lot of farmers from across the 
political spectrum. This gentleman here moved me when he said 
five generations on his farm, and I still remember sitting with 
farmers who still had that original deed going back to the 
1800's and the pride of every generation being able to not just 
make a living, but raise their families, and strengthen their 
communities, and provide for American hunger and demand, and 
suddenly, the economics that worked for five generations just 
barely add up. There's a nobility, sir, about what you do for 
America. You are great patriots, and I know how much you care 
about American farmers, sir. So, I'm really hoping we can find 
some bipartisan work to do together and keep people, like Noah 
and his family, at the center of our thought process because we 
can do something. This is not inevitable. This is un-American. 
This is a perversion of the free market. If we give them a 
chance to compete, I promise you that family will have another 
five generations of success on their farm.
    Chairman Grassley [off mic]. Senator Moody.
    Senator Moody. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for holding this 
important hearing. I don't know that many people across the 
country have an understanding of how American agriculture 
touches not only their everyday lives, but their security. And 
I think this hearing is so important, whether they live in Iowa 
or Florida's heartland, which is where I am from, Plant City, 
Florida, the winter strawberry capital of the world--proud to 
hail from them from there--and also now represent Florida as 
their newest U.S. Senator. But agriculture is so important to 
our cities and States, indeed our Nation, and if there is one 
takeaway from everything that we're hearing and what every 
witness, I think, would agree with is that our food supply 
chain, its success, its security, is a matter of national 
security.
    COVID-19 really put this into focus for us as a country. 
For a long time, we never really thought about food, where it 
came from, many people, but then suddenly we were facing 
shortages in, certainly, many areas--PPE, other products--and 
we had to start looking to China. So, the same country that was 
responsible for COVID, we then had to import products from them 
to protect Americans. We faced medicinal shortages. Where did 
we have to look? China. I mean, there were so many places when 
it came down to a crisis point that we had to go back to our 
foreign adversaries when we determined we had weaknesses in our 
supply chain, and there is risk that comes with relying on a 
foreign country for critical supplies.
    Corporations, over time, have focused more and more on 
lowering costs by offshoring, relying on foreign inputs, 
minimizing their inventories, and we're now seeing how that 
affected jobs here in America, certainly. And there's interest 
in making sure we have fair markets, both domestically and 
internationally, but we can't lose focus of the effects of that 
on our domestic supply and security and America's interest, and 
it took that one pressure test in 2020 to see how vulnerable we 
are now.
    So, one event can jeopardize our access to PPE, formula for 
infants, essential medicine, so imagine how important it is for 
American agriculture to prosper and be resilient so that we 
have a food supply that withstands foreign interference. 
Florida is a big part of that. Not many people think of 
agriculture when they think of Florida. They think of 
flamingos, beaches, weather, all kinds of things, but they 
don't think of agriculture, but it is truly the lifeblood of 
our Nation's agriculture. So much of the supply chain that goes 
to supporting growth in our farms comes from Florida. When it 
comes to phosphate and the natural resources we need to put 
food on the table, Florida leads the way, and truly Florida 
feeds the world in that sense.
    It's in the best interest of American farmers in our State 
and our country to pursue a balanced approach. That is one that 
unleashes the full potential of American mineral production and 
American products that support agriculture and our food supply 
at the same time, ensuring we have a fair global market supply. 
There is no question that we must fortify our domestic food 
supply chain, and that starts with shoring up American products 
that are necessary to sustain a critical base of domestic food 
production. The industry that feeds us, that is life 
sustaining, is much bigger than any economic impact statistic, 
and we should take every step we can to make it more resilient. 
Securing the supply chain is a matter of national security, and 
if American agriculture stumbles, if fertilizer production is 
overburdened and neglected, our adversaries profit. We will 
become more and more reliant on those adversaries. I hope to 
avoid all conflicts. I think that should be every American's 
interest, but should a conflict occur, we will start weakened 
at the gate if we rely on our adversaries for food. We don't 
need the Art of the War to tell us that that is common sense.
    I want to start with and ask a former national FFA 
president, which I have great respect for being from Plant City 
and from FFA, Mr. Rosenbusch. Thank you for being here. Is 
phosphate essential to growing food?
    Mr. Rosenbusch. Well, thank you, Senator, for that 
question, and Plant City has had more national FFA officers 
than any other city in the United States, so congratulations on 
that.
    Senator Moody. I didn't know that. You just taught me 
something.
    Mr. Rosenbusch. Yes, you do.
    Senator Moody. Go, Plant City.
    Mr. Rosenbusch. Yes. Phosphate is one of the critical 
minerals. You cannot grow half the world's food on this planet 
without phosphate, and, of course, as you know, Florida is the 
center of that phosphate production, and we have tremendous 
opportunities in this country to expand if we can remove some 
of the regulatory burden around mining and manufacturing.
    Senator Moody. And ahead of the United States in terms of 
natural reserves--China, Russia--so if, in fact, we do not 
support and ensure that we have domestic production, we will 
become more and more reliant on China and Russia. Is that 
correct?
    Mr. Rosenbusch. Absolutely, and, Senator, China has 
restricted those exports, and they produce 40 percent of 
phosphates, which is one of the nutrients that's really 
challenging growers right now. And frankly speaking, one of the 
reasons they're doing so is to invest in lithium phosphate 
battery production, and so they definitely have policies that 
are impacting our growers here.
    Chairman Grassley. Senator Welch.
    Senator Moody. At the same time--if I might just finish 
this one question, Mr. Chairman----
    Chairman Grassley. Yes.
    Senator Moody. At the same time that we're making sure 
policies are supporting American growers and American products 
that support those growers, in order to keep input costs low 
for our farmers, we also have to ensure there's a fair global 
market. Is that correct?
    Mr. Rosenbusch. Yes, Senator.
    Senator Moody. All right. Thank you, sir.
    Chairman Grassley. Thank you. Senator Welch.
    Senator Welch. Thank you very much. I missed some of the 
testimony, but I have reviewed it and saw some of it. I just 
want to start with Mr. Coppess and Mr. Latham, and I also want 
to say to us, much of what the farm community is facing is a 
result of policies that have been allowed to take place by this 
Congress, and we all revere the hard work of our farmers, but 
we've got to do some work of our own and address these 
policies.
    Both of you talked about the high input cost, and what I 
understand is that it used to be about 10 bucks a bushel a few 
years ago. It is now $11 or $12. The selling price used to be 
$13 or $14 a bushel, and it's now about 10 bucks a bushel. Is 
that right? So, you're losing money on every bushel, right? And 
of course you lost markets. We sold $12 billion to China. How 
many bushels of soybeans have you sold, either of you, to China 
this year?
    Mr. Coppess. Well, when I drop it off, I'm not sure exactly 
where it's headed, but to my knowledge, we haven't sold very 
many.
    Senator Welch. None.
    Mr. Coppess. Right.
    Senator Welch. The market is absolutely destroyed, and that 
is directly a result of the tariffs. So, you have more patience 
than I do about these tariffs, but this is killing these guys, 
and we've got to acknowledge that and get their markets back. 
There is discussion right now about taking some of that tariff 
money and sending it to farmers, and God knows I support 
getting some aid to farmers, but let me ask you this question. 
Do the soybean and corn farmers in Iowa, would they prefer to 
work hard and sell their product to a market or get a 
government handout?
    Mr. Coppess. Thank you for the question. We don't want to 
live by the Government's hand. We're fine being the tip of the 
sword if we can correct the greater problems and have a better 
long-term future, okay?
    Senator Welch. Okay, but the point----
    Mr. Coppess. We're okay with that, but----
    Senator Welch [continuing]. Is you want to be self-reliant. 
You want to sell. You want to produce. You want to work hard. 
You don't want a government handout, right?
    Mr. Latham. Absolutely.
    Mr. Coppess. We would like to have fair trade.
    Senator Welch. Well, I am totally with you. You've got some 
supplemental income in your State on agricultural land. It's 
wind turbines, right? Those help the farmers?
    Mr. Coppess. We have wind turbines in our State. It's a 
discussion amongst different landowners whether it's a positive 
or negative thing.
    Senator Welch. Okay, but the farmer makes the decision. If 
we as a Congress take away the help for wind, that takes away 
some income for farmers. Is that correct or not?
    Mr. Coppess. On the farmland that has wind turbines, that 
would be correct.
    Senator Welch. Right, and, you know and what I know, we 
have dairy. That's our big farming in Vermont. Farmers are good 
at a lot of things, but one of the things they're astonishing 
at is fixing things. A headlight goes wrong on their tractor, 
they fix it, right? Something goes wrong, you don't have the 
right to repair your equipment and it costs a ton, and 
sometimes you lose production time because your tractor's down 
and you got to wait for the dealer to come out. I am 
introducing today a Right to Repair. So, if you buy a tractor--
what do they cost, $250,000 now--you can fix it.
    Mr. Latham. Or more.
    Senator Welch. You can turn the screw, or do whatever it is 
or get the software you need. What's your view on Right to 
Repair?
    Mr. Latham. Thank you for the question. The farmer needs an 
option to either repair himself or go to an independent repair 
shop if he doesn't have a relationship with his dealership.
    Senator Welch. Well, I agree with that.
    Mr. Coppess. We need that technology.
    Senator Welch. And I want to tell you something. I just 
came from Vermont. Our farmers across the country--it's 
Vermont, it's Iowa--you guys all work hard, okay, and you have 
to face all kinds of things. They're completely beyond your 
control. The things we've been talking about here--the tariffs, 
the high input prices, the concentration, so you can't do seeds 
on your own--those are political decisions. Vermont right now 
is facing a crisis, our worst drought in 55 years, and our 
dairy farmers don't have the hay crop and the feed crop. You've 
got a lot of soybeans that are spilling over. Would you have 
any problem with USDA buying your soybeans to help us get 
through the winter and feed our animals in Vermont, one farmer 
helping another?
    Mr. Latham. I would have no problem with that, Senator.
    Senator Welch. In fact, you'd like it, right?
    Mr. Latham. Right.
    Senator Welch. You'd be selling----
    Mr. Latham. Right.
    Senator Welch. You'd be selling your surplus and helping 
our Vermont dairy farmers, who are just getting crushed by the 
drought that's really killed them. Well, I thank you about 
that. You know, we've got the phosphate, as you mentioned. 
That's everywhere. 14 percent increase in price in Vermont for 
our farmers. They have no control over that. We mostly import 
it from Canada. Is that an input cost that is also going up in 
Iowa?
    Mr. Coppess. It is. On our farm, we've minimized the use of 
phosphate down to an absolute necessity where we have to have 
it.
    Senator Welch. Right. Any----
    Mr. Coppess. It's simply a negative return to----
    Senator Welch. Any thoughts on what I understand is going 
to be the administration position that we should start 
importing cattle from Argentina? That going to help out?
    Mr. Coppess. Thank you for the question. On my farm, we 
have 10 cows. It's a small part of our farm. What I can tell 
you is I'm not a fan of the Government dramatically changing 
the price of something we have. I've got a 16-year-old and a 
14-year-old that are two cows each into starting their cow 
herd, and it's a tough day for them to realize the calves they 
have to sell to go buy more replacement heifers today are worth 
quite a bit less than they were 2 days ago when they're ready 
to go to market next week with them. So, that's a tough lesson, 
but there again, we're not a fan of the Government making those 
large swings for us.
    Senator Welch. Well, I'm with you. Mr. Chairman, you are 
our best farmer on the Committee, probably in Congress. You are 
patient with the President and I respect you for that, but I 
just want to say that I don't know him like you do, but the 
tariffs are really hurting us in Vermont. My dairy farmers and 
this drought, which they don't complain about, it's just 
something they've got to deal with. We'd love to be able to get 
some of your surplus, a grain, to help our farmers who lost 
their crops. So, they can't control the weather, they can't 
control a lot of things, but we can control some policies 
that'll make it possible for another five generations to keep 
going. So, I really appreciate this hearing, and I appreciate 
your leadership on ag issues, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.
    Chairman Grassley. Well, I hope you know, Senator Welch, 
I've consistently expressed my views to the President's Cabinet 
about the impact of tariffs. I hear that all the time from 
Iowans, farmers and non-farmers alike, and I've expressed my 
views to them a bit.
    I'm going continue to ask questions. I don't think 
anybody's coming back, and just as soon as I get called for 
this last vote, this will be the end of the meeting, unless 
somebody comes in that didn't get a first round. So, I'm going 
to ask Mr. Latham, across corn and soybeans today, are there 
still contractual or technical barriers that keep you from 
offering a seed where the competitor's trait stacked alongside 
another? Could you describe the specific clauses and data 
obligations?
    Mr. Latham. Yes. Thank you, Senator, for the question. Yes, 
there are restrictive rebates that we fall under as an 
independent seed company, and it happens a lot to farmers as 
well. But if we use an alternative and if we fall below, let's 
say it's usually 85 or 90 percent, and we could fall off, 
basically, a cliff and could lose our whole profitability for 
the year.
    Chairman Grassley. And, Mr. Coppess, farmers report rebate 
clawbacks, delayed allocations, and audit threats after trying 
rival products and services. Could you give us some details of 
the recent incidence where a supplier or retailer used rebate 
leverage or allocation delays to punish switching?
    Mr. Coppess. Thank you for the question, Senator. 
Oftentimes, our pricing structure on our farm is the more we 
buy, the cheaper it gets. I haven't personally experienced a 
rebate clawback, but it is very clear when we're purchasing 
products, that the more we buy, the cheaper the product gets, 
driving us down into, you know, we need to try and stack that 
to stay profitable limits our options.
    Chairman Grassley. Mr. LaVigne, your organization says on 
its website that your membership includes 85 percent of all 
private U.S. seed companies operating in the United States, 
both big and small. Is there a disagreement among your members 
regarding antitrust and intellectual property issues, laws, and 
enforcement?
    Mr. LaVigne. Thank you for that question, Mr. Chairman. 
We're pretty consistent with respect to intellectual property 
laws. It's a key pillar for our strategic plan, and it feels 
like that's where our companies make investments as technology 
continues to improve and we bring more products to farmers. We 
also believe very strongly that our members have their own 
strategies for how they implement intellectual property 
practices. We don't judge those by the companies. That's not 
our position as an association. So, whether they choose 
patents, or PVPs, or licensing, or just trade secrets, those 
are all tools that all innovators in the U.S. have available to 
them.
    Chairman Grassley. Yes. This question would be to Moss, 
Rosenbusch, and LaVigne. Only 1 of the 4 largest companies 
controlling the ag market is U.S. owned. In your opinion, does 
this represent any national security risk to our country?
    Dr. Moss. Thank you, Chairman. I'm happy to chime in on 
that. Having a concentrated market with just a few firms 
operating in that market, or a dominant firm, absolutely 
represents national security risks. Especially in food and 
agriculture, we've talked about market power bottlenecks where 
producers and consumers are at the behest of a very powerful 
company in terms of prices paid for commodities and prices paid 
for food. So, we have to be extra vigilant in food and 
agriculture to enforce our antitrust laws to ensure that we 
have competitive markets and the ability for smaller innovative 
entrants to get in and to have a go of it.
    Chairman Grassley. Yes. If you want to add to that or 
express your own view, I invite the two of you to do that as 
well.
    Mr. LaVigne. Thank you again, Mr. Chairman. When we look at 
this, we obviously have antitrust respect for the U.S. laws and 
for our own antitrust policies with the association, so we 
don't have a position with respect to how contracts are done or 
pricing is done, anything along those lines. From the member 
standpoint, we want very strong intellectual property rights. 
We know that the American market is one of the most competitive 
in the United States, and we would like to continue that 
process. This is where the innovation in our industry is done, 
and that's why we're the leaders globally. So, we would like to 
continue that as we go forward, and, hopefully, that 
competition continues to stay strong.
    Chairman Grassley. Do you have anything to add, Mr. 
Rosenbusch?
    Mr. Rosenbusch. Thank you, Chairman Grassley. I would just 
say that on the fertilizer side, most of the U.S. producers are 
U.S. owned.
    Chairman Grassley. Okay. For you, Mr. Rosenbusch, when a 
single foreign supplier dominates an essential input, and 
commerce and ITC-imposed duties that may choke off that source, 
what specific safeguards would the Fertilizer Institute support 
to prevent a de facto domestic monopoly and keep farmers 
supplied?
    Mr. Rosenbusch. Thank you, Chairman Grassley, for that 
question. The trade cases that you're referring to, they are 
complex and have been adjudicated through the International 
Trade Commission. At the Fertilizer Institute, we have both of 
those members on both sides of that case, so a wise man once 
told me, when you have two members on both sides of the issue, 
go with the member, and so we don't have an official policy on 
any of those trade remedy cases. I will tell you that there 
were many factors when that case came forward in 2020 that 
impacted the market and impacted the supply. A lot of those 
tons ended up being filled by Saudi Arabia and other countries.
    Chairman Grassley. We have some statements here from people 
that want to get into the record, statements and letters from 
several groups, including the Iowa Corn Growers Association. I 
am going to ask unanimous consent that those statements be put 
in, and there's nobody here to object.
    [Laughter.]
    [The information appears as submissions for the record.]
    Chairman Grassley. Dr. Moss, in plain English, where's the 
line between licensing that speeds innovation and licensing 
that walls off rivals, especially for stacked traits? Do you 
support narrowly tailored measures similar to the fair, 
reasonable, and nondiscriminatory agreements? If so, why?
    Dr. Moss. Thank you, Chairman Grassley. So, I think two 
things quickly in response to that question. Antitrust does a 
very difficult dance with intellectual property law. Our 
intellectual property laws are extremely important for spurring 
incentives to engage in R&D and to innovate products. But as 
we've seen in the pharmaceutical industry, there can absolutely 
be trouble ahead when firms use intellectual property rights to 
shape or to control how competition develops. We've seen that 
with product topping and generic seeds where generics have been 
kept out because of small changes in patents and another 20 
years of patent protection. So, that's the first answer. The 
second is, if we do get into the business of standard-setting 
organizations where the large biotech companies will be needing 
to figure out what the standards are, it will be a very complex 
and difficult process, given how much trait stacking there is. 
And determining what is a fair price for a license, of course, 
would be even more complex, and that will require a good deal 
of government oversight, and I would expect it would generate 
an enormous amount of controversy.
    Chairman Grassley. My last question will be to Mr. LaVigne 
and Dr. Moss. I want to understand why generic, insect-
resistant traits haven't materialized despite patent 
expiration. I understand that there does not appear to be a 
single generic insect-resistant trait available to growers, 
notwithstanding frameworks touted as solutions. Why is this the 
case?
    Dr. Moss. My first response would be, again, the ag-biotech 
industry has borrowed a page from pharmaceuticals, filing for 
new patents based on very minor modifications, which then locks 
in another 20 years of patent protection and the ability to 
charge monopoly prices. The FTC currently has a case looking 
into loyalty discounts in pesticides. That is another way to 
lock farmers into cropping systems and limit the ability of 
farmers to switch. Lack of interoperability exacerbates this 
problem. So, we are nowhere near on top of these types of 
abuses of intellectual property that are really designed to 
stifle and to control competition.
    Chairman Grassley. Mr. LaVigne.
    Mr. LaVigne. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and as we look at it, 
just to reiterate, we're not in the practice of collecting what 
the practices of the members are or how they license or charge 
fees. It's against American antitrust law, so I will make 
comment from the respect that we support products coming to 
market. This is much more difficult than other chemicals or 
pharmaceuticals or things along those lines that come to the 
marketplace after that expiration. You're looking at a lot of 
products where it may be the BT product, but you're also 
looking for stacks of other products with that. And then also 
newer varieties as they come along, is somebody going to want 
to stack that on a 20-year-old variety that's off patent, or do 
they want a new variety that is more resistant and has disease 
resistance in it? So, the plant-breeding process and the track-
development process is an evolving process as we go along, and 
it's not just static. We're not planting the same seed 
varieties we did 20 years ago. We're trying to bring that 
newest product to the farmer. The asset has been involved in 
driving the ag accord to try to give that platform for generics 
coming to the marketplace, but it's been a challenge, and it's 
one that we need to continue to work with Congress and work 
with the administration, EPA, and USDA to try to provide that 
pathway for companies that choose to go to the generic traits 
and varieties.
    Chairman Grassley. Before I adjourn, I thank all of you for 
your contribution to this debate, and if you got anything you 
didn't get a chance to say, we'll take it in writing.
    Senator Durbin and I, as well as the entire Committee, 
would like to thank each witness for taking the time to share 
their knowledge and expertise.
    Written questions can be submitted for the record for 1 
week from today, and I'll ask the witnesses to answer and 
return the questions to the Committee within 2 weeks after you 
receive them.
    Chairman Grassley. Thank you very much. Meeting adjourned.
    [Whereupon, at 12:20 p.m., the hearing was adjourned.]
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 ACT | The App Association, letter................................     2

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